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Qualcomm Exec Responds & New Evidence Shows a Hot Snapdragon CPU for S27 Ultra on the OnePlus 16. · eSIM STUDIOS Podcast - Tech News + Reviews

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  All right, welcome back to eSIM Studios. Yesterday,
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  I recorded and uploaded a video in regards to
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  the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S27 Ultra and the
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  age -old debate of what CPU Samsung is going
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  to go with their next flagship device. Are they
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  going to go with the Snapdragon or are they going
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  to go with the Exynos? There's been some reports.
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  There's been a leak. dating back to yesterday's
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  video not going to explain everything but let
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  me briefly describe what it was about so we can
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  jump into today's news because it is quite juicy
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  i told you this was going to get good so yesterday
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  we got news that samsung notified qualcomm samsung
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  gave qualcomm an ultimatum they said look these
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  cpus the this new snapdragon 8 elite extreme
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  gen 6 pro is hot the thermals are way too hot
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  we cannot get this under control if you cannot
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  help us out get these temperatures under control
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  we're going to go with the exynos 2700 in the
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  upcoming samsung galaxy s27 ultra when this news
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  when this leak came out had me wondering why
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  would this news leak it's either true or it's
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  false or there's i guess there could be some
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  in between where some is true some is false but
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  it had me wondering what the hell is going on
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  yesterday late afternoon a representative from
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  qualcomm said hold up hold up hold up that is
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  not true that is not true today we got another
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  qualcomm representative and it's just as fishy
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  as yesterday's leak so what am i talking about
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  today well Let me put this up here right next
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  to me. There is a person on Twitter, Jason C.
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  Never heard of him. I have no clue who this is.
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  But a Qualcomm representative replied to this
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  tweet. And we're about to show that as well.
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  But check this out. He says, if these reports
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  are accurate, Qualcomm has a serious problem.
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  The Snapdragon 8 Elite. gen 6 reportedly struggles
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  with sustained thermals forcing performance throttling
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  under heavy workloads samsung also has a perception
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  problem with exynos the future of galaxy s series
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  could be at risk now if you're in tune with the
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  tech world as i am something right off of the
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  bat doesn't look right well that has me seriously
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  question jason c Because the CPU in question
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  is not the Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 6. No, because
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  that CPU is never going to be put in the S27
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  Ultra. The one in question is the Snapdragon
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  8 Elite Extreme Gen 6. Let's get to that fishy
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  response. Don McGuire is the executive vice president.
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  So he's up there on the food chain when it comes
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  to Qualcomm, right? I mean, he's up there. He's
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  in the boardroom meetings, that's for sure, when
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  it comes to Qualcomm. So he would have some knowledge
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  in regards to this story, right? I mean, it's
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  kind of the stuff that comes to his desk when
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  some of the stuff. Anyways, let's get into his
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  response. So he responded, 100 % not accurate.
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  And then Jason C. states, could you please elaborate
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  more? Don McGuire. Now remember what the original
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  post said. The original post said Snapdragon
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  8 Elite Gen 6. Remember that's not the CPU that
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  was originally put in this S27 Ultra. Very clever
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  Mr. McGuire because you replied the very same
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  thing I would reply if I were in your shoes.
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  Wink wink. He says there are no systematic thermal
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  issues with the 8 elite gen 6. oems are constantly
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  tuning their platforms as they launch their products
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  always trying to balance performance in power
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  to optimize their value prop propositions around
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  different use cases we work together to deliver
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  the best for users so he's essentially saying
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  look and this is what i mentioned on yesterday's
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  video previous video Like this is normal operating
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  procedures for these Android manufacturers to
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  fine tune these new processors to get, you know,
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  to work just right with their operating system
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  because they take Android and then they reskin
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  it, recode it with their look and or theme, whether
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  it's Samsung, whether it's Google, they do that
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  with their pixel, whether it's OnePlus, Oppo,
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  whoever, right? But let's get back to the CPU
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  in question. Because technically, even if the
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  story from yesterday, even if that story was
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  true, that Samsung is having overheating issues
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  with the Snapdragon 8 Elite Extreme Gen 6, even
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  if that was true, the response by Don McGuire
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  today from Qualcomm is true as well. So, Mr.
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  McGuire, you are right. Pretty clever there.
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  I caught it. Can I get that past me though? I
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  know you can slide that by 99 % of people, but
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  I am a one percenter. Okay. And I know a lot
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  of my viewers are as well. Okay. So now that
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  we got that out of the way, and of course, of
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  course, Qualcomm is going to say that, right?
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  I mean, come on. That's what I would say if I
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  was employed by Qualcomm as well, right? Now
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  I was wondering, is this true? Like, is there
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  overheating problems? And I thought, You know,
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  Samsung is going to have a few months to tweak
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  this thing. However, remember, the deadline is
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  approaching. If this report was true yesterday,
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  Samsung has a deadline by mid -October to either
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  go with the Snapdragon or go with Exynos because
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  they start production next month, at the beginning
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  of next month, meaning beginning of November.
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  That's when they start mass producing all these
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  S27 Ultras. Remember, they got to make millions
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  of them to be ready for launch and shipment once
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  they are launched and announced in January and
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  up for sale in February. Remember, this happens
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  months in advance. So they essentially have a
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  week to make a decision. So, you know, they were
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  working 24 -7 around the clock to try to figure
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  something out. So I was thinking, you know what?
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  make a decision but i was like this is not the
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  only device launched with the snapdragon 80 lead
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  extreme gen 6. there's actually a handful of
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  devices that are already launched that are already
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  on the market that you can physically purchase
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  already with the cpu in them and i was like you
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  know what let me do some online searching and
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  see if any other devices rocking the snapdragon
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  80 lead extreme gen 6 have had any issues with
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  overheating and you'll be surprised at what i
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  found so the rumor that the cpu overheats might
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  be true because i found quite a bit online in
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  regards to overheating and it's pretty interesting
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  so let me show you this right here this is a
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  google search of OnePlus 16 overheating. So the
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  brand new OnePlus 16 just launched and is actually
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  available to purchase on Giztop. It's only released
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  in China. But if you want one, you can go to
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  Giztop and buy one. However, it's just going
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  to be the Chinese model. Now, there's some YouTubers
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  that went ahead and did that. And there's a good
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  video that shows it getting pretty freaking hot.
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  and scaling down the thermal throttling kicks
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  in and performance drastically reduces so there
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  is a video a youtube video by king me mobile
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  the one plus 16 review great on paper awful in
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  real life now i'm not going to play you this
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  video because i don't want to get a copyright
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  strike and i don't want to use their content
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  in his video of this new oneplus 16 with the
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  snapdragon 80 lead extreme gen 6 pro the device
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  just during gaming and benchmarking got up to
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  45 degrees celsius he had a heat gun it wasn't
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  an app on the phone like how you he actually
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  had a heat gun on the outside with his heat gun
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  he got up to 45 degrees celsius he's outside
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  of the us so i was like 45 degrees Celsius. I'm
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  in the US. We're dumb. We go by our own metrics.
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  So I was like, is that hot? I don't know. Let
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  me Google this. Holy shit. 45 degrees Celsius
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  equals 113 degrees Fahrenheit. That is hot. And
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  that's just during gaming. That's just doing
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  during benchmarks. And I got those temperatures,
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  but that's when I was outside. in the south texas
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  summer heat where it was 107 degrees outside
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  that's how hot my phone would get when i was
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  outside in the hot texas heat running 4k video
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  this dude in his video was inside in a air conditioned
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  environment and the phone was getting 113 degrees
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  fahrenheit that is hot now he did mention in
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  that video that when he was doing benchmarking
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  when he was doing gaming During gaming, the frame
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  rates drastically reduced. Thermal throttling.
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  That's the thermal throttling kicking in. When
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  the CPU gets too hot, it'll ramp down the performance
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  to try to cool it down, right? It tries to save
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  itself at the expense of performance. And during
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  his benchmarking, he ran one benchmark, scored,
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  I think, almost 5 million points on Anitutu.
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  But it got so hot during the test, that on the
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  subsequent very next few benchmark tests, it
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  would only score around 4 million points, 4 .2
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  million points. That's because the performance
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  got scaled down because the CPU, the device was
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  getting too hot. So that's real world usage with
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  a stock OnePlus 16, not modified, running ColorOS
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  17. Pretty freaking crazy. It said the frame
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  rate dropped. uh during gaming from 90 fps to
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  60 to below 60 fps so this might be an issue
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  this might be an issue so there might be some
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  truth there with that report coming from samsung
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  yesterday leak from samsung And Qualcomm on their
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  response today by Mr. McGuire saying there's
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  no issues with the Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 6.
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  Of course there's not because that's not the
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  one in question. It's the extreme version that's
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  in question. Now, I wonder to fulfill their contractual
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  agreement, Samsung and Qualcomm, Samsung has
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  to equip a flagship Galaxy device. with you know
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  obviously I don't know the terms but one of the
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  flagship Samsung Galaxy s27 devices what I'm
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  assuming it's the pro or the ultra needs to have
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  a Qualcomm chip in it now it's gonna be up to
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  see if these reports are true in this CPU is
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  so hot to where they can't even tweak it tweak
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  the thermals they can't get the temps down even
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  after many many attempts of tweaking it i'm talking
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  about the software but the with samsung when
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  they're testing the s27 ultra i wonder at what
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  point they would consider jumping to scaling
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  down to the snapdragon 8 elite gen 6. i did briefly
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  mention that on my video yesterday would that
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  upset you uh as a potential samsung customer
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  or a potential buyer of this phone what if that
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  does not have any thermal throttling issues the
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  extreme does because it's extremely ramped up
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  and that was my this goes back to a point i made
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  even a year ago these new flagship cpus are so
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  good right now we've essentially hit a plateau
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  right where this is not five six seven years
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  ago when these cpus will make really big leaps
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  in performance a a one two or three year old
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  flagship cpu is there that much difference in
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  your daily activities on your phone like are
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  you gaming that much on your phone where you
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  need the absolute latest and greatest cpu if
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  you're not gaming if you're not video editing
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  what's the freaking difference now i know there's
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  bragging rights all the The R2S 27 Ultra has
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  the fastest mobile processor ever made in any
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  phone. Okay, that's all fine and dandy, but we're
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  not using our phone on the North Pole where it's
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  negative 43 degrees, right? Where I can stay
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  cool. Like, I'm down here in South Texas where
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  it gets 107 degrees during the summer. Like,
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  heat is the last thing I want with my phone.
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  So I'm starting to think, like, I honestly would
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  not care. If Samsung, in fact, look, if heat
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  is a real issue, I'd actually recommend them
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  go down to the regular Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen
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  6, the watered down flagship CPU from Qualcomm
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  this year. And or what if Samsung goes with the
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  Exynos 2700? If they put that in the S27 Ultra.
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  How do they still fulfill their contractual agreement
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  with Qualcomm in supplying one of these devices
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  with a Snapdragon chip? Could they put Exynos
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  2700 in the S27 Ultra and then put the Snapdragon
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  8 Elite Gen 6, not the Extreme, but the watered
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  -down flagship version in the S27 Pro? That's
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  a possibility? Look, I have no clue, but... I
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  guarantee you right this second, as I'm talking,
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  as you're listening, there are people at Samsung
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  mobile division right now, sitting around a desk
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  on the phone, what have you discussing what to
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  do? Because if this is a real thing, they're
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  coming down to the deadline and they're probably
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  pulling their hair out. probably on the phone
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  with a bunch of people, their lawyers. Hey, are
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  there loopholes in this contractual agreement
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  we can get around? Is this possible? Is that
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  possible? Can we scale down to the non -extreme
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  version? Can we do this? Can we do that? It's
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  getting down to crunch time because November
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  1st is when they have to have all their schematics
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  and plans put in place in part suppliers ready
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  to roll and off to the manufacturing they go
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  in two weeks. This is getting interesting. Stay
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  tuned to the eSIM Studios channel. I'm going
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  to cover all this. I'm on this like white on
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