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09/05/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Chris Withrow, Eric Tarr · The Dave Allen Show

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got lots to get to this morning, where do I start. Chris Withrow
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or a good friend from the Benny Keaton Shrine is here. I'm gonna have
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him on momentarily. Plus Senter financier Eric Tarr will be stopping by the Parmar
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Store studios as well. Tar. Senator Chars found himself in the spotlight here
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as of late with comments. He made an oppress release about the ongoing budget
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crisis at WVU, and so we're talking to him about that some other things.
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So while we're talking about things, Putnham County, the land that both
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Senator Tarre and myself call home, there's gonna be a Putnam County Board of
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Education meeting held tonight with a lot of eyes on it. Now, let
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me just say this, although Puttnham County may be a very, very very
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red conservative area, it's been it's been my experience that Hurricane High School,
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at least in the past, has always and I've had personal dealings with the
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high school in the past. Good folks there, don't get me wrong,
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Especially when I worked with Secretary of State's office and we used to do voter
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magistration drives and things of that, totally nonpartisan type events. I will say
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that the administration and many of the teachers there, at least at one time,
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tended to be a little bit more liberal, and that's okay, but
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that haven't been said. Tonight, there's going to be a meeting of the
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Putnham County Board of Education that, as I said earlier, promises to be
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very interesting. Worth noting. I did reach out to the spokesperson for the
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Putnam County Board of Education last week. It did not receive a response.
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Anyway, There's some information being put out by some folks of Putnham County seeing
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that recently the administration of Superintendent John Hudson has said there is to be nothing
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overtly political in the classrooms of the schools of Putnham County, and some are
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upset because they see that things such as posters and signs that could be hung
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up, saying that certain areas of the school talking about Hurricane High could be
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deemed as LGBTQ safe spaces, acceptance posters, things of that nature. They
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say that acceptance is not a political agenda, but basic human decency. Those
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words are taken directly from social media posts. The post calling for people to
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reach out to Superintendent Hudson's office. Now that haven't been said. The other
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side has fired back with social media posts with their own calling for a quote
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call to action to keep your child's education free from the sexual orientation and transgender
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agenda. Their words, they're calling for people to show up at the board
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meeting tonight in Winfield starts at six thirty. Will of course be covering the
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meeting, will have an update tomorrow morning. And remember when the most controversial
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things in public school where the lengths of shorts or skirts, or hair,
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or dancing too close or music or whatever. It seems like a lot of
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time ago, speaking of schools, if you saw the high school football scores
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from Friday night, you may have thought the winning team scores were basketball scores.
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Teams scoring in the eighties and nineties in high school football. And I
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know Dave Wilson covered a little yesterday when he was in for hobby. I'm
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going to get into that a little bit later on in the week myself certainly
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well be for Friday nights games. All I can say is get used to
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it. And Charleston City Council is going to have a meeting tonight and there's
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going to be a lot of eyes on that meeting. Well, we'll get
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into that coming up on the show tomorrow. And one other thing before we
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get to our friend Chris. The West Virginia poll was released on Friday and
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it shows more Capital as a leader in the Republican nomination for governor and now
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Attorney General and candidate for governor. Patrick Morrissey has released a statement, he
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actually did so within hours after the poll came out on Friday, calling it
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a fake news poll. You know, it's funny to me, folks that
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when, with all due respect to the age, when he needs free airtime
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for things that are going on in the office of Attorney General, which we
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are happy to provide as a public service for our listeners, he doesn't think
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this is a fake news organization. Then Metro News is the most respected news
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organization in the state, sir. And based on the the closet full of
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national awards we have won, I would say that many others agree with that.
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So there's that, And Honeyta Mayor Steve Williams announced to no one surprise
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after that he's gonna be running for governor. So okay, Well, I
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got the news out of the way. At least some of the headlines.
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Let me welcome in Chris withrow from the Benny Keatham Shrine, Charleston. Sorry
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you had to follow all that, but sometimes, Chris, you got to
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get news to the people, which is what you're here to do as well.
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Absolutely, good morning, like the Davidtorial there, out of your sins,
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Davidtorial, you don't call my company fake news. Man, I get
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pissed. Well, it's okay, and it's all right to be upset.
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That's okay, not a good thing, all right. Anyway, go ahead,
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buddy, what a great day. Huh what do you got to What
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do you got going on? Man? You always got good stuff going on.
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You've got so much going on right now. I mean we just finished
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up yesterday. We had the Labor Day a parade in more Mett, which
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was a great success. I saw a lot of the video of that.
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Man, that's a lot of fun out there, uh, you know,
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marching and playing and meeting the kids, and were part of that Greeze pole
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competition I saw on TV. Negative. No, I did not do that.
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We were too busy brading and and doing the shrine work as as it
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were. But uh, yeah, we're really busy right now. We've got
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a lot of things coming up beach a little bit close to that microphone.
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Absolutely, you don't know your own strength sometimes go ahead. Uh, No,
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We've we've got a lot of things going on, you know. We
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got uh the state on the Bennie Keaton Oriental Band has a golf tournament on
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September the eighth, you know, so there's still time to sign your teams
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up. It's gonna be a good time, you know, it's it's always
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been a really really good tournament. And then we have coming up our outdoor
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Bonanza. It's one of our largest fundraisers that we have, uh for the
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shrine. All the proceeds benefit the temple to keep the lights on, keep
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the doors open. But there is we have tickets available. You can go
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into the office, you can call in get those tickets and that telephone numbers
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three zero four three four three nine four zero five for that outdoor bonanza and
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show. It's gonna be a great time. And you know, here we
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are, we're coming up on Halloween. You know, it's hardens time a
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time. So this year on Friday the twenty seventh at the Temple, we're
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gonna have a trunk or treat for all the kids. We have a lot
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of us parking lot indoors depending on whether yea, if it's you've got a
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big enough place you could do it into it. Absolutely want to see you
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try to drive your truck up the steps though, Yeah, that would be
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tough. That would be tough. I bet it's been dump tried before,
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probably and it probably has worked. Anyway, Go ahead, absolutely, But
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you know we have we have a lot of partners. Our community partners are
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are involved. You know some some of the banks, and and law office
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and real estate offices. They're gonna be coming in. We're gonna have all
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kinds of great thing. The Charleston Police and fire both will be there to
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help us out. It's gonna be a great event for the kids. And
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then on Saturday we have the Broomstick Ball for the adults. So it's I
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got to hear this story to be awesome. I mean, it's gonna be
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really decorated, nice, We're gonna have lots and lots of wonderful libations and
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as it called broomstick Ball, Chris, I gotta know, I don't know.
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I'd have to ask Mike about that. Michael Dodd and his wife.
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That's what they came up with, and we're really excited about. It's gonna
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be a really good time. It's gonna be gifts given out for the best
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dress and couples, and it's is gonna be a really fun night, a
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lot of music, food, fun and dancing. It's just gonna be a
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great thing. And again, all that benefits the Benni Keaton Shrine Center.
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And so we've got that coming up. And it's important to remember that I
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have Chris on from time to time and he and he talks about this event
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going on in the river. I know, you just had some things going
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on in the river and so on and so worth all the whenever you talk
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about these things, you're not just doing this for fun. I mean,
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there's a fun aspect to it, but proceeds for any of these events go
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right back to the work that the Benny Keaton Shrine does, absolutely, you
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know. And then we have specific things that we do that go directly to
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the hospital. Yes, so at the end of the day, every fundraiser,
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every event that we do, it all goes to benefit the kids in
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West Virginia. And it's we have over six hundred active patients just in West
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Virginia alone. So the time, the money, and the effort is spent
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here locally, and we're really proud of that mission. And yes, we
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have fun doing it, but it is a serious mission and it really changes
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the lives of the children and the families that need it, and so we're
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really excited with what we're doing. We also rent our facility out, Dave.
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I know we've talked about that a lot, but you know, we
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have one of the nicest venues in Charleston. We've got the best parking in
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town. Obviously, we have a full commercial kitchen. You know, we
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can seed up to four hundred people at any given time, and we could
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do things as small as business meetings or classroom settings all the way up to
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weddings. We do a lot of weddings and a lot of memorial services,
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class reunions. We've done couple class reunions this year alone, and we've got
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a lot of weddings going on, a lot of memorial services, and we're
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very competitive. So I would implore you listeners to come stop by one hundred
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Courier Street, check out the shrine, look at the facilities and let us
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walk you around and talk about your next event that you need to book,
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and we'd love to help you with that. And I always say this anytime
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you're on that anytime that people that are listening needs something for as you said,
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a memorial service, a shower, a party, as a retirement party,
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or whatever the case, wedding reception, don't find institution in Charleston.
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Have it in. You've got a full kitchen and everything there. And again,
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just like with everything else, the money that you raise goes either for
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your operating costs to the shrine or goes right back into the charitable organizations that
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you do. Absolutely so that that building is our base where we launch all
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of our efforts to help the children. And we've got that's a big building,
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so we have to keep money coming in to do that. But a
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lot of money goes out of that building to the hospit And now you guys
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are generally speaking, when there's events going on at the Kttlessy in a convention
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center, you're I mean pretty much every event you're out there letting people park
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there. I mean for a donation. Yeas for a donation, right,
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And I say that because you know we get this volleyball thing going on.
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It starts today and runs through the weekend. I mean, there are thousands
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and thousands of folks. I'm gonna tell you if it's going to be moving
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around Charleston over the next couple of days, there are thousands of people coming
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in from me. You know, everybody's looking forward to this USA Cuba matchup
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and volleyball. This is some of the things that are tune ups for the
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Olympics and this come to Charleston. It starts today. So if you're head
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now for that, you may want to hit up you're looking for a great
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place to park right there next to the venue. You may want to talk
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to the folks here to Benny keetam trying because you guys are out there with
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your buckets taking donations, can ask for a better place to park. What
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a better way to start your week at that volleyball tournament is to park right
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in the front door of the city as you go, you know. So,
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yeah, we're really excited. We're going to be out there and we'd
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love to have anybody that wants to park. We've got a couple hundred spots
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out there, one hundred and fifty one hundred and eighty spots out there,
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and we'll put you in there quickly. We appreciate the business for Chris.
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It's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Man. I appreciate
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the work that you guys do out there, and you do fantastic work,
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and i'd like to have you on to kind of update to people on it.
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Man. We appreciate you, appreciate it, and we are appreciate you
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and the radio station for giving us this venue to get out and let us
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get the word out to all the people. And look forward to seeing you
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with Senator tar Good morning, how are you, sir? Morning David and
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excellent. Great to have you here. If you have a good labor day,
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weekend, a lot of fun as a family. It was good.
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That's good stuff. I want to get right to it. I'm not getting
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any break, man, We're gonna hit you hard. I want to get
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to your comments on the budget crisis at a WVU. Now a little background
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here. We all know the problems of West Virginia University estimated forty five million
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dollars worth of budget deficit. Randy Whitegarten, who is the president of the
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National arm of the American Federation of Teachers, issued a statement calling the proposed
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cuts at West Virginia University quote to draconian and catastrophic, and she is blaming
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Senator at least in part. You guys have a legislature and you have a
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big problem with that. Take it from there. Yeah, well, first
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of all, is uh the AFT and their letter came out out of concern
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for the students, which the American Federation of Teachers Teachers has never done anything
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out of concern for students. It's it's been their mo is to go in
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address cultural wars within the country. So you know, they carry the left
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liberal flag out there loud and proud as loud as they can. So they
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got to you gotta understand the frame of reference from where this letter comes from.
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First, and the second thing that you call on the budget, Custer
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coneyan, it's about a ten percent on their overall budget. You know,
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they run a budget almost say it's size of the state for WVU, and
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back in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, the legislature went through and reduced spending
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at a state level by ten percent. It was about four hundred fifty million
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dollars. So when they're coming in at a forty five million dollar cut,
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and it's it's a it's painful, it's painful for the students, it's painful
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for the professors that are involved. But it's very responsible and it's finally responsible
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because if you look nationally at what's happened with spending and higher education, what
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has been catastrophic is the uncontrolled spending. Higher education across this country has spent
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and spent and spent like there is no tomorrow, irrespective the projection for revenue
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declining over the next decade. And we saw that in our Senate Finance Committee
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here back two years ago when we had both Brad Smith and Gordon Gee,
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and they're testifying two studies that came out for the forecasting that up to fifty
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percent of the nations higher education institutions would fall within the next decade because of
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the forecast for declining student enrollment. In spite of that of you took on
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more debt, continued increase or spending, and so now as they think President
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Gee and I think his board seeing the writing on the wall, are seeing
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that, you know, we're not going to come in as a taxpayer and
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reach more into Dave Allen's check book and reaching more in anybody else's to say
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that we are going to continue to fund irresponsible spending. And then let me
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jump in here one one moment, Senator, because I think it's a really
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good point that you brought up about this is going on on the national level.
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West Virginia has been getting national attention, front page of the Wall Street
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Journal, Pittsburgh Post, because at Washington Post all these publications forward, I
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think it was did stories on this. But you could have just as easily
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from what I gather said University of Texas, you could have just maybe they
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did. You could have just said LSU USC whatever. This is something,
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as you said, that is a problem with higher education nationwide. Absolutely,
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And if the New York Times article, there's an editorial in there that was
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from a democratic organization that came out and they put it right out there.
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Their biggest fear is that other states will look to West Virginia and say we
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have to do this too. So when when you're looking at the programs that
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they're auditing. They're auditing across the board. It's not they haven't went through
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and just selectively picked out the programs like interpretive Dance. You know, they
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had the School of Medicine, School Physical Therapy, Engineering, they had all
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those under audit. So as they're going through, they're looking at what student
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Rollman looked like going forward, what has student Rollman been, How much of
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the university's resources are we allocating to this and looking going back and saying,
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okay, here's where we need to start trimming back because we are not attracting
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students this are but we're spending like crazy in these programs. Now doesn't mean
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the programs go away, you can. There's some of those will be integrated
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into others as some of the plans that I've been seeing for him. But
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I do expect they're going to follow through and do that ten percent. But
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you also have to realize the support level the state has continued to provide to
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these universities, not just W but across the board. We still this year,
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I think just shy four hundred million dollars came out of taxpayer's pockets and
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went to W. Some of that was in deferred maintenance. Some of it
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has been in our budget line spending comes out every year. You know,
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there's around a one hundred and twenty three million I think right there that comes
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out every year, in addition to their other schools that are across the state.
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Same thing with Marshall University. You know that's we've had coming There's been
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about fifty million I believe that comes out to them every year. So there's
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still a lot of taxpayer support to go into these programs. And I think
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what you'll see is our universities here in West Virginia, somewhat by forcing their
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hands and somewhat by them coming in and saying, hey, we see the
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writing on the wall, and we're going to get ahead of this. Being
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one of the first in the country here in West Virginia, say we're going
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to right size our universities so that as we go forward, we can turn
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back around and being a fiscal situation, that we can offer whatever degree we
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want to, because if they continue on the path they are, they're not
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gonna be able to offer the degrees that they need off, let along the
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ones they want to offer. And so I think they're on the right pathwards
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in these cuts and they need to hold the ground and keep going moving forward.
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It again with send a financier Ery tar here on five ATY Live.
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How would you answer that we played Devil's advocate for a moment. There have
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been those on the other side, Eric, that has said that this Republican
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legislature is anti education, anti higher education, specifically that maybe for one reason
23:49
or another, that maybe the leadership has got an issue with higher education.
23:56
So first of all, so I would let me say the leadership I do
23:59
include myself, and part of that leadership is financ Shair. I have a
24:02
bachelor's in health science. I have a masters in business administration. I have
24:04
a doctorate in physical therapy. I have a daughter who is a doctorate and
24:07
also a bachelor's degree. I have a brother who has a bachelor's, masters
24:11
and doctorate. And that's so, and we're some of the first in our
24:15
family grow that we have all taught in some of these universities as well,
24:18
and being asked to come back the clinical facil would come to speak at universities
24:22
across the state. There is nobody that you'll find who is a bigger believer
24:29
in higher education than Eric tar and I want to be able to protect those
24:33
foundations so that they we have some of the strongest in the country. And
24:37
the path that we had been heading down with our higher head here in West
24:40
Virginia was that would not be the case if you look at the forecast for
24:42
higher education nationally. So I don't believe that I or anybody else in leadership.
24:48
Roger Henshaw, he's a PhD over you in the House, even as
24:52
President. Craig Blair has a lot of the certifications that are the more the
24:59
skilled trades lot of things. So we have a good mix of understanding what
25:03
training toward a paycheck, training toward anything that puts a paycheck in your pocket,
25:07
the value what that is to over West Virginia. It's now we're very
25:10
supportive and we're also protective of it that if you don't just throw money haphazardly
25:18
at those institutions and not pay attention to the direction they're going so that they
25:23
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important education and a highly uneducated or under educated state, or tax cuts.
26:00
It's laughable that the state has billions in excess revenue and all we could do
26:03
is cut spitting and give tax cuts priorities question mark. Oh, this again
26:07
gets back to forecasting and seeing where the states that do exceptionally well in these
26:11
areas how they got. First of all, have they got their tax structure
26:15
in place to be competitive at a national level? You know, I've been
26:18
on your show a lot talking about that on what it takes to get West
26:19
Virginia competitive at a national level, And we have got much of the framework
26:23
they're done to get there, We're not there yet. So even with the
26:29
most recent tax cut that we did, with the largest tax cut in the
26:30
history of West Virginia, that over the next eight years we should probably have
26:36
no income tax the way things are headed right now as it goes down.
26:40
But we also see some of the largest growth in industry that we've seen in
26:42
the history of West Virginia coming as well. You know, just between Ravens
26:45
wood and apple growth right there, you can count on your hands right now
26:49
about seventeen thousand jobs that are coming there in the next ten years. Which
26:52
is the greatest, well, I think it's the greatest. I'd say it's
26:56
say, having Jesus Christ and your last probably the greatest. But the next
26:59
thing best to having Jesus Christ in your life is a good paying job to
27:03
address the opoid epidemic. And we know that one of the biggest economic factors
27:07
here in West Virginia for educational attainment is being able where you start. And
27:11
if you're starting out the child of a drug addicted family, education is going
27:15
to be difficult for you. And so it all starts with having you where
27:21
you place the foundation of your life, and then having a job that produces
27:25
an income for a family to go forward, and then you'll see the schools,
27:27
you'll see the education growth. But that's where it has to start.
27:30
And a lot of the things this legislature has done, including the tax cuts
27:33
and the tax efforts we've done and the spending reductions we have done, have
27:37
now brought those level of jobs. And that's just between Ravenswood and Point Pleasant.
27:41
That doesn'count wherever all else is going on the state. So it's we're
27:45
into an economic renaissance that's coming in West Virginia, and so it's good to
27:51
see. And I want to get into that a little bit later on because
27:52
I mentioned the West Virginia pole that came out Friday. There were some new
27:55
numbers that came out yesterday that says that, you know, for one reason
27:59
or the West Virginias don't have a lot of confidence in our economy, and
28:04
Eric and I were talking about that. I'm sorry, Senator Tarr and I
28:07
were talking about that off the air, and I want to get into that
28:11
with you a little bit later on about some of the results of this poll.
28:14
And I think you and I may be on the same page on some
28:15
of this stuff. We're gonna talk about that a little bit later on Texas.
28:18
Ask Gary tar why he won't attack Alderson brought us for its poor management.
28:22
You know, it's we had a leadership meeting come together within about an
28:27
hour's notice from the Chancellor of Higher Education, Sarah Tucker, when they realized
28:33
what was happening Alderson brought us and where it's about twenty of us that jumped
28:37
onto a zoom call to go through and get an update on what was happening
28:41
there. So what we had done in the legislature just this past year was
28:45
enable the Higher Education Policy Commission to go in and actually see the finances of
28:52
anybody who's licensed to provide a higher education education higher education institution here in West
28:56
Virginia. Prior to that, we really didn't have a window into private institutions
29:03
economics, what their balance sheets look like, what their cash looks like.
29:06
And what happened with allSome broad Us is disgusting. You had, you had
29:11
an administration that saw the writing on the wall and was still trying to bring
29:15
students into it in an environment where they knew the university was on path to
29:21
crash. And so the way they're trying to keep the doors open is get
29:23
students there fast enough before anybody could keep from shutting off the electric because they
29:26
had people in dorms. So to say that I didn't come out and attack
29:30
all As brodd Est, now I didn't. But what I would say is
29:33
that that some of the most irresponsible stuff we've seen in higher education in the
29:36
state. We've seen it happen in others. And what I would tell you
29:38
is Allerso brodd Est will not be the last we know. We're here in
29:41
West Virginia. You're going to see several of these institutions that have not got
29:48
their fiscal house in order in time to survive. What's happening with this decline
29:52
student population higher education as we have fewer people, fewer students who are entering
29:56
higher education nationwide. Tex says, I do have a problem with some of
30:00
the higher education institutions. Over the past forty plus years, many have become
30:03
a portal for pushing progressivism and Marxism. Some parents do not recognize their own
30:08
kids when they come home on breaks. I can't disagree with that. He
30:12
knows, and I think a whole lot of that comes out of you.
30:18
I'll put this is an eric thing. I can't say this is legislature thing
30:21
that I think it's. No. I've not been shy about having my differences
30:25
with teachers ingions or teachers associations and acting genions, whether it's the National Education
30:29
Association, the American Federation of Teachers, or the West Virginia Education Association.
30:34
And it's not the teachers, it is the organizations and what they go into,
30:40
explain, to go in to put into our kids schools, and it
30:44
is leftist as it gets. Their agenda is extremely leftist, and that gets
30:48
into our textbooks, it gets into the teaching environment, it gets into the
30:52
culture and the client in the classrooms and culture in the hallways of our schools
30:56
and in the higher education side of things. The closest thing that comes to
31:02
that is faculty sentence that come into once you have tenure, and there's no
31:07
way that university is ever getting rid of you. And especially as you get
31:10
into the more of the liberal arts side of the education and out of the
31:12
sciences, you get those those tenured faculty that have a very left leaning and
31:21
no repercussions for exclaiming that whatsoever within the universities, and sometimes I can be
31:26
attractive to our youth and at your respective how how strong your family life has
31:32
been coming in when you send him to school. And you know that the
31:33
t our families had to watch over that closely with our kids as we went
31:38
through. So I understand the frustrations of that texture. Tex says in a
31:44
picture dictionary, you'll find tar At disingenuous. Gave forty five million dollars to
31:48
Marshall but said back and watch WV. You have to make draconian cuts.
31:52
You know, the forty five million went to cybersecurity. And you would also
31:56
see that prior to that, in the regular session, West Virginia University School
32:01
of Medicine to the medical school, not medical school, West Virginia Medicine got
32:08
fifty million dollars to go toward National Cancer Institute designation is one time spend fifty
32:14
million dollars which will bring a lot of oncology experts in across the country into
32:21
that area. So when and that is a spot where it will create jobs
32:23
a big time in West Virginia. Cybersecurity that went to Marshall University. The
32:29
forty five million dollars is also on that track. It's it will tract a
32:31
lot of jobs here to West Virginia, and to say that we don't support
32:36
higher education, that is disingenuous because if you come in, you bring something
32:39
that you're gonna show that's going to benefit the people of West Virginia directly and
32:44
in short time frame, and it's those investments will return exponentially the two what
32:52
the children here in West Virginia can go and get an education four your degree
32:54
and step out making north of six figures out of a program like that,
32:58
And it creates an economy around that school of those type of careers where those
33:02
those jobs locate here. So not only is it for our West Virginia kids,
33:06
it'll bring people from out of the across the country here and probably across
33:08
the globe. So I wouldn't do that appropriation every day if we had it.
33:14
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Huntington, Across Lanes Center. Financier Eric tars Here, Eric, you hurt
36:35
me at the top of the show talking about some findings of the latest Metro
36:37
News West Virginia pole more findings released yesterday, Senator, despite all the announcements
36:43
about job creation, various projects, etc. And we're making these announcements at
36:47
what seemingly is a rate of a couple of times a week, it seems
36:52
forty four percent of West Virginians believe the economy is getting worse now, as
36:57
Rex repassed the pollster extraordinary point it out. A lot of this can be
37:01
blamed, he thinks, on the perception of the national economy. That's why
37:07
such a higher percentage thinks the economy in West Virginia is getting worse. Your
37:12
take, it has to be nationally and when you look at the national picture,
37:16
and we have to look at it from a statewise too, when you
37:19
look at how are you going to be good stewards of a taxpayer dollar?
37:23
In a finance chair position, you have to pay attention to national economy.
37:27
And the national economy right now is heading in a terrible direction. It has
37:30
been for a while. With Joe Biden at the helm up there, and
37:34
all you have to do is look at the price of eggs, price of
37:36
bread, price of gas. You name it. You go through and look
37:38
at any kind of commodity that it takes for you and your family to survive.
37:43
And for a lot of West Virginia, a whole lot of West Virginia,
37:45
it's still pay check to paycheck. And as when's paycheck to paycheck,
37:50
it's hard to it's hard to look at and say, Okay, well it's
37:52
going to be good for me in ten years when you're worried about are you
37:53
able to feed the kids this week and so. And with the way that
37:58
those type of prices have went, with interest rates climbing, with what it
38:01
means to a mortgage on your home, the Democrats have done everything can to
38:07
destroy what was a booming economy when they when they found it. So how
38:12
do you, senator, how do you balance your work on the messaging?
38:15
So it's different from West Virginia. And one of the things that you know
38:19
is, I think most people know I'm a small businessman here in West Virginia,
38:22
so employee just around two hundred people here in West Virginia. And so
38:27
I've done a lot of investment here or my roots go very very deep with
38:30
that investment. So when we look at when and where are we going to
38:36
invest when greatly is determined by what is the cost of money, because you
38:43
know, it takes it takes money to make money, and usually that money
38:45
comes from a bank somewhere, So you're going to have to go out and
38:49
get a loan. Well, if you have a you know, an eight
38:52
percent interest rate, you're going to go out and get a grab one a
38:54
loan somewhere to make a large investment in your margins are ten percent. Well,
39:01
sometimes that that economics, those economics just don't work. So you contract
39:07
your spending. So I think what you'll see is with a lot of the
39:09
businesses that are your smaller businesses, they contract that households contract their spending.
39:15
And the reason is, as you see right now, it's impacting your pocketbook
39:19
on what the cost of getting a dollar is, whether that's your work or
39:24
whether it's going out to get alone. And so you know, a dollar
39:29
just a few years ago was worth seventeen cents more than it is today.
39:32
And when you have that outlook nationally, it's difficult. But at a state
39:36
level, here's what I can tell you. At a state level, at
39:38
a state level, we have had billions and billions and billions and billions of
39:44
dollars just in the past few years that have come down and committed to West
39:50
Virginia and committed at a very real level. It's not it's not mus it's
39:53
it's people putting shovels in the ground that are from all the way from companies
39:59
that are fortune through three hundred companies across the globe. And so when the
40:02
Senate President loves this visual that he brings, and he brings in this book
40:07
that shows what all we have done in West Virginia to change the culture for
40:10
business in West Virginia. And it's about four to five inches thick, and
40:14
he drops it from about hand level and it hits the floor, and that
40:15
makes this huge boom in a room. And it's page by page of single
40:21
page bills that the legislature's passed since two thy fifteen to get this state in
40:27
shape to where West Virginia has this bast signal over it for anybody who wants
40:30
to put a business someplace, is that you should be in West Virginia and
40:34
in manufacturing, which creates a whole another economy around it. We are especially
40:39
that because one of the things that that attracts these these these companies that are
40:44
coming The very first question we give most of them is right to work.
40:45
Finally out of the courts, is it done? Yes, it's done.
40:49
That checks off a big box. And so the next thing they're coming in
40:52
through is what's labor force right now? So labor force is an issue.
40:55
It's labor forces an issue here, but it's an issue across the nations,
41:00
an issue across the world. But West Virginia does have the lowest workforce participation
41:04
of able bodied people in America. That is that yet it's it's it's the
41:09
workforce participation is low. We have an older population. The good thing about
41:14
these jobs though, is there you know, on the low end average seventy
41:17
five thousand a year on but across the board they're all right around six figures.
41:22
You get a ged and go in and within a little bit on job
41:27
training and you're you're making six figures at these type jobs. So people will
41:31
move here for that, and West Virginia that's one of the things that we've
41:35
been you know, anybody that runs for office will tell you, you know,
41:37
we got to grow up population. We've been saying it for years and
41:38
years and years. Well, how do you grow population, you'll either have
41:42
babies or you move people here. That's that's how you grow it. So
41:45
seventeen thousand jobs that make one hundred thousand a year that you don't have to
41:49
have a even a bachelor's degree to get. People will move here for those
41:52
type careers. And so West Virginia has the highest they have the lowest attrition.
41:58
So we have the highest retention low attrition in manufacturing in the country.
42:02
For employment in any industry, we have the fifth lowest attrition, which means
42:08
that the people that are here in West Virginia are loyal to Somebody comes in
42:12
and creates a job for their family, and I think anybody lives here knows
42:14
that. So and we're being recognized for that. We being recognized for the
42:17
possive made that the tax efforts we made, even even if some of the
42:21
tax efforts didn't necessarily pass, the efforts at it being so persistent has attracted
42:28
a lot of that as well. So world the right path. And I
42:30
tell you in five to ten years the region, there's regions in West Virginia
42:34
that people will never believe what they were compared to what they'll be in ten
42:38
years. And I'll tell you anywhere from Cabal Countia, Jackson County in anywhere
42:44
within an hour of that you won't see it. We knock out some text
42:47
or text says brags about his degrees, but push some of the most idiotic
42:51
health bills and decades. You know, I have a conversations and so idiotic
42:55
there's idiotic is aggressive and so and the reason and I would say that's aggressive
43:00
is that from a legislature perspective, I could come up and say I know
43:07
more than you, and so since I know more than you about healthcare and
43:09
will tell you what you have to do for your health, you don't want
43:13
that. Nobody wants I don't want that, especially after we've seen a COVID.
43:16
You don't want that. What you want when you send somebody up here
43:20
to Charles and somebody who uses that to that that type of knowledge come up
43:23
to support your freedoms. Right, So I want I want you to be
43:28
as as as as knowledgeable as you can and are in an area to make
43:34
a decision for the best year for your own family. I'm not going to
43:36
make that decision for you. And so we have a discussion A lot as
43:38
legislators up there that are in healthcare. We have nurses are in legislature,
43:42
we have physicians are in a health in the legislature, a physical therapist,
43:45
and a lot of other stuff that's out around a healthcare industry. And so
43:47
we have these debates about you know that we know what is the absolute best
43:52
for the health of an individual, do we take that individual's freedoms and make
43:59
that decision for them or do we create an environment that gives them the best
44:02
opportunity to make a good decision. I would much rather have them have that
44:06
decision than we make it for him, because the science changes, and a
44:08
lot of stuff Texas since he respot it all follow up. Most of these
44:13
new plants have been brought about by Joe Biden's programs. Is there any credit
44:16
given there? Some of them have been, not all of them, Some
44:20
of them that they you know, these are when you talk about billion dollar
44:23
investments. Billion dollar investments don't happen in a week, you know, they
44:29
those those level investments. They start looking at those years and years and years
44:31
in advance. How many years had new I mean approximately has New Corps been
44:36
on the books I mean being looked at or or a facility like newcre for
44:39
example, New Corps had been looking at West Virginia three years before we actually
44:45
got to meet them. Okay, so a lot of times there's things going
44:47
on. In the words of Lenearge Skinner, there's things going on you don't
44:51
know. Oh yeah, absolutely, And there's things going on in the background.
44:53
Yeah when you I mean sometimes even you guys don't know. Yeah,
44:57
absolutely, there's a lot of there's some of these. I still get surprised.
45:00
We have we have Fidelis. They got announced it in up in Point
45:05
Pleasant, when Fidelis came up and talked about what they had been looking to
45:09
do at that area and came in without initially without an ask for the state.
45:14
We had some little disagreements there when they started making an ask. Initially
45:17
came in that they were ready to go, and they're coming in. Decisions
45:20
made. Hey, we're Fidelis and we're coming to West Virginia. We just
45:22
bought the land here. It's nice to meet y'all, you know. So
45:25
it's and they're gonna have you know, they got five thousand construction jobs over
45:29
five years to build that place. It's so we have those coming and those
45:35
don't happen overnight. They don't happen in the past couple of years that Joe
45:38
Biden's been a president now has the tax policies that they have done on not
45:43
tax policies, I'm losing the turn, but that this when they come in
45:51
subsidize the substance there we see the subsidies that come in for those type of
45:54
jobs that are around carbon type things. Those subsidies have made those industries attractive
46:02
at large. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's attractive here at West Virginia.
46:07
And so when you start looking at they've got things in the books and they're
46:10
planning and where we're gonna locate, you know, they could have located that
46:15
just as easily right across the river in Ohio. Why not? Why didn't
46:16
they? You know, so they chose West Virginia. They chose West Virginia
46:20
because West Virginia has been moving the needle on business. And I have talked
46:23
to that about with CEO after CEO f CEO legislative liaison for these type of
46:28
corporations that it isn't we are recognized for the changes we've been making in West
46:31
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taris here. Senators, your relationship with Governor Justice gotten any better? Uh?
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No, you know, and I have no desire for that relationship getting
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better. He's a miss. Yeah, it's no Christmas parties with you know,
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actually they send out Christmas party invitations to all the legislators, but it's
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it's not invitation all soon accepts. What's what's your thoughts on the Senate run
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for for what? For now? Governor Justices he matches up with with Alex
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Mooney. I think it's critical that West Virginians who show up in this Republican
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primary realize how detrimental it would be to the US Senate and to our nation
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to send Jim Justice the US Senate. You know, a lot of the
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problems that we see at a national when you look at the economy poll just
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come out and forty four percent have a a doomsday of view of it,
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it's because of what's happening at the national level and the Senate that the US
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Senate that we have up there right now is lukewarm. They are vanilla toast
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at best on getting something like that changed. And so the only way we're
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going to get to and e commony that gets improved one is the presidential election
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and get President Trump back in there. And then two is that we need
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policies that are happening at a national level like you've been seeing in West Virginia
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that grow an economy, and unless that Senate gets pulled right, it has
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got to be pulled right, it's not going to happen. And Jim Justice
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does not move that Senate right. If nothing else, I would say he
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more is more of the same of exactly what we got, or he's left.
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And so if you want to see a stronger economic policy at a national
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level, you're gonna need somebody who can physically show up. You're gonna need
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somebody who has the willpower to show up. And then you're want to have
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somebody who pulls the Senate right, and that's Alex Mooney and Alex Money will
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do that. And whoever wins this Republican primary will be the next US senator.
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So I would I would encourage that when you go to the polls,
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that you realize that do you think Mansion runs percent? No, I don't
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think he runs for sent I don't. Yeah, I think he'll be independent
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on presidential ticket. I think that it'll be if it gets competitive and he's
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got pulled enough votes, he's probably have leverage for a cabinet position somewhere.
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And that's what I think if there were to be a Mansion Justice matchup for
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Manton's seats, which I don't think is going to happen or to you.
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Would you support justice, would you support mansion or would you upstain? Man?
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That would be tough. You know, it's a damned if you do
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damn if you know. So, that's what I don't think you're gonna have
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to worry about making that decision. Yeah, yeah, I don't think so
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either, And that's a but I don't think I can vote for either one.
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Up, what's the future look like, Fairy Tar? Are you happy
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doing what you're doing? Or have you ever thought about aim and higher?
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You know, there's there's a whole lot more to my life than this seat.
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I love what I do here. It's it's an honor and privilege.
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You get to do it, and I get to have the influence that I
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think that in a spot that I should have that influence as things sit right
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now, it's a financiery Tar. There's always a pleasure to have you on
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the show, Man. I preh you being here. Thanks a lot,
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Thanks for coming up on the show. Tomorrow, we're gonna talk a little
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real estate with a good friend, Rich the Realtorcline, some folks from the
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Charleston Ay Alliance are gonna stop by. Plus it's gonna be some interesting meetings
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tonight. Putnam County Board of Education one, the Charleston City Council is another
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one. We'll keep a close eye on those. We'll have details on those
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meetings coming up tomorrow. My producer was Hollywood Jeff Petty. Jeff, thank
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you so much. Dave Wilson in for Hobby. Hobby's only got one more
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day. I think Hobbies coming back on Wednesday. But Dave Wilson's in the
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chair today, so I will see you tomorrow. Till and next time,
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which is tomorrow. Have fun. I love somebody fighting at a six point
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on Charleston one to four point five cross Lane, w u VRC Media Station.
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