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Mark Belling Podcast #76: The FBI is back: huge multi-agency drug bust takes down kingpins in Racine/Milwaukee while big names are charged in NBA betting scandal. Also: Trump Derangement Syndrome now spreads to the new White House ballroom. Plus, our weekly football preview and picks (Mark is 6-2). · The Mark Belling Podcast

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Speaker 3: The FBI is back.
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Speaker 4: The FBI wreck and ruined during the Biden era and
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Speaker 4: turned into a partisan hack agency bringing phony criminal charges
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Speaker 4: and so on. What a couple of days for the FBI.
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Speaker 4: era in which it is actually still the j Edgar
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Speaker 4: Hoover FBI when it started, But that was the era
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Speaker 4: in which the FBI was just universally accepted and the
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Speaker 4: goal of Cash Betel and the Trump administration is to
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Speaker 4: bring it back. And there are two separate stories in
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Speaker 4: Let's start with the drug bus. We heard about drug
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Speaker 4: bus all the time. I from what I've been able
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Speaker 4: to pick up, which is a fair amount. This is
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Speaker 4: in terms of not necessarily quantity of drugs that were confiscated.
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Speaker 4: That was not the goal of this. Sometimes these raids
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Speaker 4: are you get into a warehouse and grab, you know,
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Speaker 4: millions of dollars of the drugs. That was not the
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Speaker 4: purpose this. The purpose of this one was to nail
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Speaker 4: several drug crankpins and confiscate drugs in the process. This
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Speaker 4: was an investigation that involved more than a dozen law
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Speaker 4: enforcement agencies in Illinois and Wisconsin. The federal government had
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Speaker 4: numerous agencies that were involved because the arrest itself that
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Speaker 4: the rest occurred were seeing in Milwaukee, but the major
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Speaker 4: operation was outside of the city of Racine in Mount
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Speaker 4: Pleasant and the Mount Pleasant Police Department sort of as
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Speaker 4: the titular head. But the FBI was the one that
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Speaker 4: did all of the announcing of all of this. But
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Speaker 4: there were fourteen SWAT teams. They had a black Hawk helicopter.
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Speaker 4: In other words, the force that was shown here was
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Speaker 4: massive because they were prepared for the potential given what
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Speaker 4: was at stake here of.
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Speaker 3: Armed resistance.
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Speaker 4: It didn't occur, and the takedown is apparently quite big.
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Speaker 4: Whenever the FBI has like a title for the thing,
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Speaker 4: that means it's a big deal. Sadly, the last few
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Speaker 4: years those titles were all things that turned out to
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Speaker 4: be disgraced.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully this is not one of those things. Operation chalk Line.
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Speaker 4: We all know that the drug problem in the United
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Speaker 4: States is as bad now as maybe it's ever been,
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Speaker 4: simply because the drugs are so powerful. It was only
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Speaker 4: a few years ago that we started and hearing about
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Speaker 4: feninol being abused. Fenanol is heroin on steroids. The meth
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Speaker 4: problem has gotten terrible, and just going through what it
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Speaker 4: is that they confiscated, you could tell that these are
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Speaker 4: major drug operations because they're wholesaling out lots of drugs
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Speaker 4: or akilas of cocaine, two hundred and sixty grams of fenool,
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Speaker 4: one and a half pounds of meth, six pounds of marijuana,
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Speaker 4: twenty three firearms.
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Speaker 3: Three vehicles. The names of the individuals are going to
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Speaker 3: be released.
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Speaker 4: I don't know that I would know who any of
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Speaker 4: them are, because the thing with high end drug dealers
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Speaker 4: is that they tend in terms of their name to
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Speaker 4: be an honymous because they try to keep their own
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Speaker 4: hands clean and the people who get their hands thirty
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Speaker 4: to the people that are below them. Now how high
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Speaker 4: level they are, will this be an attempt to get
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Speaker 4: people to flip bring down more indictments. Don't know, but
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Speaker 4: certainly one of the priorities and it's hard to say
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Speaker 4: priorities in the Trump administration because they're doing so many things,
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Speaker 4: has been to a this terrible drug problem that's affecting
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Speaker 4: particularly younger Americans. And as I've been saying, one of
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Speaker 4: the reasons the problem is so bad is that there
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Speaker 4: are so many of these drugs right now that they're
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Speaker 4: not all that expensive, and by shutting off the supply,
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Speaker 4: which is what's occurring with these attacks in the Caribbean
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Speaker 4: and isolation of Latin American countries, and now going after
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Speaker 4: the individuals, some of whom I suspect, some of whom.
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Speaker 3: May be.
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Speaker 4: Illegal immigrants. I'm just suspecting that that some of the
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Speaker 4: people that are running the drug operation. We don't know,
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Speaker 4: but it's just logical to me that when you don't
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Speaker 4: enforce the border, drug kingpins who were overseas would simply
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Speaker 4: come and locate themselves in the United States to have
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Speaker 4: total control.
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Speaker 3: Of their operation.
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Speaker 4: So this was a major twenty two arrests so far,
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Speaker 4: but I suspect that now the real process begins.
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Speaker 3: In which.
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Speaker 4: As a way of trying to tell them that you
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Speaker 4: won't get a twenty five year prison sentence, start cooperating.
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Speaker 4: There may be any number of other people that come
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Speaker 4: out of this, but it was a major operation and
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Speaker 4: the amount of equipment and manpower that came in required
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Speaker 4: incredible coordination. And the other part that I want to mention,
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Speaker 4: unlike the and again the FBI was simply one of
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Speaker 4: the agencies involved, but they're the ones that made the announcement.
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Speaker 4: Homeland Security was involved, the dea of a whole list
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Speaker 4: of a bunch of them, many local law enforcement agencies
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Speaker 4: and so on. Nothing leaked out on this, and there
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Speaker 4: were obviously hundreds of people.
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Speaker 3: Who knew that the thing was coming down.
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Speaker 4: The other FBI story, the Department of Justice announced today
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Speaker 4: an FBI led investigation that's been ongoing for some time
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Speaker 4: into illegal gambling centered in the National Basketball Association. There
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Speaker 4: have been there's been speculation for some time that some
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Speaker 4: NBA players were involved in illegal gambling. Terry Rogier, who
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Speaker 4: was first with Charlotte and then with Miami, he was
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Speaker 4: actually named and taken on of games for a few
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Speaker 4: games last year before being reinstated because they were investigating
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Speaker 4: unusual activity in his games and so on. Cash Puttel,
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Speaker 4: the FBI director, says, in this instance he used the
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Speaker 4: term LaCOSA nostro, which we otherwise might call the mafia,
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Speaker 4: as being involved in the gambling operation and involved betting
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Speaker 4: on sports, betting on basketball, and also betting on poker.
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Speaker 4: The fear with regard to people involved in sports getting
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Speaker 4: involved in betting on some of these other things when
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Speaker 4: they're gambling is done illegally and they get into debt.
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Speaker 4: That's when they're getting on. You know, the bookmakers and
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Speaker 4: so on have their hooks into them in which they're
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Speaker 4: borrowing money. There was a case a few years ago
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Speaker 4: of an NBA referee who was involved in sharing information
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Speaker 4: with gamblers. He was a gambler himself, got into hooks
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Speaker 4: with the mob. He was in debt to the mob
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Speaker 4: and started sharing information. The biggest name to come down
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Speaker 4: here as an actual NBA head coach, that's a stunning development.
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Speaker 4: Chauncey Billips, who was a star for many years with
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Speaker 4: the Detroit Pistons, coach of the Portland Trail Blazers, is
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Speaker 4: one of the people that's named in the investigation. Terry Rogier,
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Speaker 4: who I just mentioned of the heat, who's been speculated
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Speaker 4: as to having been a target of a federal investigation
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Speaker 4: for better than a year, was named as well. The
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Speaker 4: indictment doesn't go into great detail as to how much
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Speaker 4: of this is betting on games. Was there any fixing
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Speaker 4: of games involved? Just because you're betting on games doesn't
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Speaker 4: mean the games are being fixed, but the door is
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Speaker 4: always open to that. Poker was mentioned as well, a
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Speaker 4: lot of extremely high stakes poker games.
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Speaker 3: And again the fear.
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Speaker 4: With regard to athletes is if they sustain massive losses
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Speaker 4: and there in debt to people that will kill you
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Speaker 4: if you don't pay up, that they'll do things like
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Speaker 4: fixed games in an attempt to pay off their debts.
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Speaker 4: Let me quote from the report. In fact, they've got
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Speaker 4: a couple of stories here. One is from the Athletic,
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Speaker 4: which is a very good sports website actually owned by
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Speaker 4: the New York Times. I'm going to read a few
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Speaker 4: paragraphs here. Portland Trailblazers coach Chauncy P Billips and Miami
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Speaker 4: Heat guard Terry Rozier were arrested Thursday as part of
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Speaker 4: a federal investigation in the illegal betting activities, Federal law
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Speaker 4: enforcement officials said doing a news conference in New York.
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Speaker 4: Rogier was taken into custody at Orlando, where the Heat
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Speaker 4: played on Wednesday night. He was accused of telling members
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Speaker 4: of a betting ring that he would leave a game early. Now,
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Speaker 4: let me explain a little bit about something called proposition betting.
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Speaker 4: You know, forever a effort after if you wanted to
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Speaker 4: bet on sports, you could bet on two things, the
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Speaker 4: points spread and the over under. Now there's propositions on
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Speaker 4: every game, and they're for multiple players. How many rebounds
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Speaker 4: will this guy have over or under this? How many points?
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Speaker 4: How many assists will another one have?
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Speaker 3: And so on?
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Speaker 4: And for some of these players that aren't big name players,
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Speaker 4: the number may be low.
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Speaker 3: You know, a guy like Terry Roger.
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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just making this up here, Maybe the over
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Speaker 4: run in his points is eight well or nine.
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Speaker 3: It's real easy to disguise that.
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Speaker 4: If a guy normally scores nine and he only scores seven,
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Speaker 4: who would.
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Speaker 3: Be the wiser. Rogier is accused.
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Speaker 4: Of telling the gambling ring I'm gonna say I'm hurt,
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Speaker 4: for example, and leave a game early. Well, then they
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Speaker 4: would know to bet the unders. So he doesn't even
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Speaker 4: have to like miss shots or anything like that. He
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Speaker 4: simply takes himself out of the game.
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Speaker 3: So he can't go over, etc. Back to the piece.
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Speaker 4: Rosier's agent, Aaron Turner, confirmed Rogier was arrested in relation
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Speaker 4: to the probe, but said the player planned to fight
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Speaker 4: the charges, having been previously cleared by the NBA. Billips
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Speaker 4: forty nine, a Hall of Flame player before he became
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Speaker 4: a coach and ex Cleveland Cavaliers assistant coach Damon Jones
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Speaker 4: were also arrested. Now David Jones is with the Lakers.
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Speaker 4: Now what the allegation is whose activities occurred prior to
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Speaker 4: going to work for them? That it might have been
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Speaker 4: in the period in which was the Cleveland prosecutors said
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Speaker 4: at least two cases were pending separately but with some
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Speaker 4: overlap and connections. One is related to sports betting. The
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Speaker 4: other is related to poker games that prosecutors say were rigged.
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Speaker 4: In response to the federal indictment of Portland Tales Bazers
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Speaker 4: coach Chauncey Billups in Miami heat guard Terry Rozer, the
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Speaker 4: NBA issued its first public statement. You could write this
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Speaker 4: statement and by the way, I just think they knew
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Speaker 4: this was coming. I don't know that they knew necessarily
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Speaker 4: it was coming. With regard to Chauncey Billups. My guess
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Speaker 4: is the FBI was working with NBA security on this.
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Speaker 4: I don't think Portland knew, because if they did, you know,
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Speaker 4: Portland did have a great season last year. Had been
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Speaker 4: very easy just to fire Chauncey Billups and make it
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Speaker 4: appears because they weren't doing well enough on the Court.
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Speaker 3: Here's the statement.
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Speaker 4: We are in the process of reviewing the federal indictments
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Speaker 4: announced today. Terry Rozier so Chauncy Billips are being placed
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Speaker 4: on immediately from their teams, and we will continue to
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Speaker 4: cooperate with the relevant authorities. We take these allegations with
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Speaker 4: the utmost seriousness, and the integrity of our games remains
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Speaker 4: our top priority. Now I've talked forever about given the
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Speaker 4: fact that we've legalized sports betting almost everywhere in the
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Speaker 4: United States. It used to be the only place that
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Speaker 4: was legal was Novata and you could have to do
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Speaker 4: otherwise you have to do it illegally with a bookie
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Speaker 4: or offshore and so on. Now that it's been legalized,
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Speaker 4: and because you can bet online with computers and all
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Speaker 4: of this stuff, they have all of these prop bets.
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Speaker 4: It's simply a guaranteed that there's going to be corruption
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Speaker 4: in anything in which there's betting. There's going to be
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Speaker 4: some corruption, and it's incumbent upon the sports themselves to
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Speaker 4: make sure that individuals involved know that if you do it,
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Speaker 4: it's the death penalty.
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Speaker 3: You're finished. The death penalty in terms of your career.
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Speaker 4: Baseball's always said this fool you bet on baseball your
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Speaker 4: band for life. Pete Rose's ban didn't end until after
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Speaker 4: he was dead. He was banned for life. It's I
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Speaker 4: think a greater concern at the college level, where the
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Speaker 4: players have less of a career to lose, and there
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Speaker 4: have been some of those cases that have come down
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Speaker 4: as well. If you're looking for a positive in this,
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Speaker 4: it's that it appears as though the FBI is back
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Speaker 4: to good old crime busting and going after and nailing crooks,
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Speaker 4: drug dealers, people fixing games, illegal brings, all of this stuff,
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Speaker 4: as opposed to the crap that the FBI had degenerated
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Speaker 4: into during the period in which its soil mission in
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Speaker 4: life seemed to be to make up things that Donald
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Speaker 4: Trump supposedly had done. I want to turn a story,
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Speaker 4: turn my attention to a disturbing story in the local
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Speaker 4: news today. This is one of those that it's about
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Speaker 4: us bad as it gets. It's involving case of a
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Speaker 4: four year old boy who died recently in West Alice.
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Speaker 4: The story on Fox six's site names the child's parents,
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Speaker 4: but whether or not the father is the parent or
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Speaker 4: not is unclear to me. The boy's last name is
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Speaker 4: not the same last name as either the mother or
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Speaker 4: the father, and there was another man years earlier named
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Speaker 4: in a paternity action that has the child's last name.
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Speaker 4: I think it's safe to say that the woman involved
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Speaker 4: as the mother, but I'm unclear as to whether or
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Speaker 4: not the man charged is the father. They were living together.
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Speaker 4: The guy is twenty one, the mother is thirty one.
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Speaker 4: There are multiple children who live in the home. Quoting
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Speaker 4: the story on Fox six, the parents of Dante Campbell,
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Speaker 4: four year old West Alice boy, are now criminally charged
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Speaker 4: in connection with his death. Milwaukee County prosecutors charged thirty
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Speaker 4: one year old Charlotte Kurk and twenty one year old
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Speaker 4: de Verio Cruz with chronic neglect of a child causing death.
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Speaker 4: They made their initial court appearance this morning. The backstory
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Speaker 4: again I quote Fox six. West Alice police and fire
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Speaker 4: department were called to the Dairy Queen at one hundred
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Speaker 4: eighth and Greenfield on the morning of October eighteenth, That
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Speaker 4: would have been last Saturday morning. When officials arrived, paramedics
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Speaker 4: were working on the UNRESPONSEI four year old boy. He
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Speaker 4: later died at Children's hospital. It is unclear to me
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Speaker 4: why the child was out the dairy queen. Court filing
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Speaker 4: said Campbell. That's the boy had bruising on his face, neck,
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Speaker 4: torso and limbs. A West Alis police sergeant noted in
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Speaker 4: his fourteen years of experienced this was the most extensive
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Speaker 4: and severe injuries that I have witnessed on a child cruise.
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Speaker 4: And Kurik that's the male and the female cruises. The male,
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Speaker 4: Kurrik is the female, initially told police the boy was
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Speaker 4: injured falling down a flight of stairs at their apartment,
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Speaker 4: where police later found three of Kurik's children. Now, Korik's
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Speaker 4: the mother. The other guy is twenty one. I don't
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Speaker 4: think he's the father of most of these and maybe
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Speaker 4: not the father of any of them. But they found
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Speaker 4: three others of Kork's children. Court filings said Campbell. That's
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Speaker 4: the boy who's dad. Siblings believe he died sometime the
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Speaker 4: day before. Again, I'm unclear as to why this is
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Speaker 4: going out in a dairy queen because the children say
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Speaker 4: they believe that the boy was dead the day before this.
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Speaker 3: These are the brothers and sisters.
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Speaker 4: Those older siblings told investigators Cruz that's the twenty one
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Speaker 4: year old guy here. Would make Campbell and his twin
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Speaker 4: sister stand on legos and smack the kids in the face,
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Speaker 4: and that Cork the mother did nothing.
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Speaker 3: To stop it.
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Speaker 4: The court filings on the individuals. Cruise himself was charged
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Speaker 4: several years ago with felony sexual assault of a child.
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Speaker 4: He later pleaded guilty to misdemeanor sexual assault. This did
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Speaker 4: not involve this particular family, It was a separate.
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Speaker 3: Crime.
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Speaker 4: As for the mother, Charlotte Cork, she's facing the same
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Speaker 4: charge as the male, who again i'm unclearest whether or
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Speaker 4: not he's a father. Both are two counts of chronic
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Speaker 4: neglect of a child, one with consequences death.
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Speaker 3: Those charges obviously can be upgraded.
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Speaker 4: It is not the least bit surprising that apparently there
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Speaker 4: are all sorts of drugs that we're found in the home,
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Speaker 4: which becomes something of an explanation. I think for all
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Speaker 4: of this, I want to move to a story here
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Speaker 4: in which we take a look at the attempts by
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Speaker 4: some legacy media organizations to save themselves. This has been
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Speaker 4: so overdue. Jeff Bezos, who bought the Washington Post, is
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Speaker 4: trying to make the paper less liberally biased. CBS News
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Speaker 4: seems to be trying now that it is under new ownership.
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Speaker 4: Now that David Ellison's firm has bought the company, it
18:07
Speaker 4: seems to be trying to rid the company of some
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Speaker 4: liberal bias. The high rank of Barry Weiss, who is
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Speaker 4: a moderate and provocative journalist formerly with The Wall Street
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Speaker 4: Journal and The New York Times, it's her attempt to
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Speaker 4: deal with that.
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Speaker 3: Gerard Baker of the Wall Street Journal has a commum
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Speaker 3: column about this.
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Speaker 4: Now his take is not entirely my take, but he
18:32
Speaker 4: makes some interesting points. The point I've made forever is
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Speaker 4: that getting rid of bias in the media is very,
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Speaker 4: very hard because everybody in the media is liberal. For
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Speaker 4: the longest time, most people in the media were liberal,
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Speaker 4: but they were professional. I believe the majority of the
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Speaker 4: people that are in the media now, not all, but
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Speaker 4: the majority are not professional that they're biased. Baker believes
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Speaker 4: it's less insidious than that, and he is right about
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Speaker 4: this point.
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Speaker 3: I agree with him to a degree. He believes that.
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Speaker 4: The problem is is that they all come from the
19:07
Speaker 4: same worldview and they view things to the exact same lens.
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Speaker 4: He is right about that, and this has been the
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Speaker 4: case for about fifty to fifty five years. The news
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Speaker 4: media tends to hang out with other members of the
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Speaker 4: news media and with the people that they cover. It's
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Speaker 4: the problem that I've described with together regard to the
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Speaker 4: Republican Party being in Madison. They madisonize themselves. Well, the
19:30
Speaker 4: news media is just this circle and click of elitists
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Speaker 4: that all see things the same way, and they then
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Speaker 4: think that they have some sort of duty to act
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Speaker 4: in the beliefs that they have, which is not the
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Speaker 4: role of the media at all. They have a duty
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Speaker 4: to report the news, they don't have a duty to
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Speaker 4: do anything about anything. Here's Baker's piece for a glimpse
19:55
Speaker 4: into the sealed world of the establishment media. Nothing tops
19:59
Speaker 4: Polline kale famous observation about the nineteen seventy two presidential election.
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Speaker 4: Let me interject, she didn't exactly say this, Baker points
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Speaker 4: said out. But the way the shorthand is is that
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Speaker 4: Pauline Klee said that she knew that McGovern was going
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Speaker 4: to beat Nixon because everybody she knew was voting for McGovern.
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Speaker 4: Now she didn't exactly say that, Well, that was the point.
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Speaker 4: In other words, her bubble only consistent of people who
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Speaker 4: constituted the small minority of Americans who supported George McGovern
20:27
Speaker 4: back to the piece. It isn't quite true, as Laura
20:30
Speaker 4: has it, that the New York film critic was so
20:32
Speaker 4: unaware of her Himalayan elevation above her fellow Americans that
20:36
Speaker 4: she wondered about how Richard Nixon could possibly have won,
20:39
Speaker 4: since she didn't know anyone who had voted for him.
20:41
Speaker 4: In fact, her quote was more guileful than that, and
20:45
Speaker 4: all the more revealing for it. What she actually said
20:47
Speaker 4: is I live in a rather special world. I know
20:50
Speaker 4: only one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are
20:53
Speaker 4: I don't know they are outside my ken, but sometimes
20:58
Speaker 4: when I'm in a theater, I can feel them. In
21:00
Speaker 4: other words, the point that she was making, and it's true,
21:03
Speaker 4: these better than fifty years later, they don't really know
21:06
Speaker 4: any of the people and now let's use and take
21:08
Speaker 4: Nixon away support Trump. They don't anybody like that, but
21:12
Speaker 4: they do know this, that they're above those kinds of people.
21:17
Speaker 3: And when you hear that, you know that's what the
21:19
Speaker 3: media is.
21:21
Speaker 4: Back to the peace less, an ingenuous revelation of lofty
21:25
Speaker 4: self insulation from such voters than more a conscious repining
21:31
Speaker 4: at their existence, mixed with revulsion at the thought that
21:35
Speaker 4: she occasionally had to share.
21:37
Speaker 3: Space with them.
21:39
Speaker 4: Isn't that how lefties view mega people, disgust that they
21:44
Speaker 4: have to share a planet Earth with them? Back to
21:48
Speaker 4: the piece, the Marie Antoinette level empathy for how other
21:52
Speaker 4: people live and think has been the biggest problem with
21:55
Speaker 4: what we might continue to call elite nords organizations in
21:58
Speaker 4: the past thirty years. You're not aware Baker himself used
22:02
Speaker 4: to be the editor in chief of the Wall Street Journal.
22:04
Speaker 4: He's a media established in type himself, and he comes
22:06
Speaker 4: out of the Murdoch Empire. He's not a conservative, but
22:10
Speaker 4: he is somebody that has tried to address this problem
22:14
Speaker 4: a bias in the media because he realizes he's turning
22:17
Speaker 4: off half his readers and what they're doing essentially killing
22:21
Speaker 4: journalism as we know it. The journalism was supposed to
22:24
Speaker 4: be the reporting of news without opinion.
22:27
Speaker 3: Back to the piece.
22:29
Speaker 4: It is the primary reason the trust in their reliability
22:32
Speaker 4: as providers of a fair accounting of the news has collapsed.
22:35
Speaker 4: Contrary to the fevered imagination of megapartisans, editors and reporters
22:39
Speaker 4: and anchors don't sit around concocting progressive talking points, checking
22:43
Speaker 4: in from time to time with the Democratic National Committee
22:46
Speaker 4: and handing out the approved line to take on all
22:49
Speaker 4: the important topics. It's more organic than that. The people
22:53
Speaker 4: who have held the commanding heights of news, from editors
22:56
Speaker 4: down to reporters may not be quite cholesque in their
23:00
Speaker 4: remoteness from their less refined fellow citizens, but their philosophical
23:05
Speaker 4: outlook reflects a degree of convergence in their shared metropolitan,
23:10
Speaker 4: expensively educated, narrowly focused minds. The political implications of this
23:16
Speaker 4: institutional demography have become more pronounced in the age of
23:20
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. Well, the more open minded of such people
23:24
Speaker 4: might once have reluctantly acknowledged that George W. Bush or
23:27
Speaker 4: Mitt Romney had at least a right to be considered
23:30
Speaker 4: for the office of presidency. In Trump's case, from day one,
23:34
Speaker 4: his illegitimacy was never in doubt. Often, as I have
23:38
Speaker 4: dealt with mainstream journalists in the past ten years, I
23:41
Speaker 4: have asked myself how many of them voted for Trump?
23:45
Speaker 4: Realizing the answer was scarcely ever more than one, I'd
23:49
Speaker 4: moved to the more interesting corollary, how many of them
23:53
Speaker 4: even know someone who voted for Trump. All of this
23:58
Speaker 4: makes me a little skeptical about the valiant attempt now
24:01
Speaker 4: underway to unwind decades of mainstream media journalistic bias by
24:06
Speaker 4: management FIAT. While news organizations are in many ways top
24:10
Speaker 4: down institutions, newsroom editors, exercise and autocracy quite rare in
24:15
Speaker 4: other fields, in reality, they are bottom up, their product
24:19
Speaker 4: shaped by those who wield the digital pens. That American
24:26
Speaker 4: media is now going through a revolution is not in
24:29
Speaker 4: doubt for those of us who have spent decades railing
24:33
Speaker 4: at and occasionally even trying to redress the imbalance. These
24:38
Speaker 4: should be exhilarating times. The appointment of Barrywise as editor
24:42
Speaker 4: in chief of CBS News and the network parent company
24:45
Speaker 4: Pricey acquisition of her Free Press media project is a
24:49
Speaker 4: welcome change, so to was Jeff Bezos's attempt to reorientation
24:53
Speaker 4: of the Washington Post editorial page to a.
24:56
Speaker 3: More pro American tilt.
24:58
Speaker 4: Similar efforts are underway in other news media, but neither
25:02
Speaker 4: Wise nor any of the people involved in the other
25:04
Speaker 4: efforts are right wing propagandists. For the most part, they
25:08
Speaker 4: are thoughtful and honest journalists intent on restoring high standards
25:12
Speaker 4: and pushing the pendulum back a little toward the plumb line.
25:16
Speaker 4: But the sheer horizontal and vertical reach of the progressive
25:19
Speaker 4: mindset in the newsrooms. The entrenched nature of their ideological
25:24
Speaker 4: skill will militate against the successful resetting of their compass.
25:29
Speaker 4: I used a lot of words here. I'll translate that
25:31
Speaker 4: into more understandable. They're so lefty, they're so hoity toity,
25:37
Speaker 4: that it's almost impossible to.
25:38
Speaker 3: Move them back to reality.
25:43
Speaker 4: Baker continues, And there's another concern. If these charges are
25:48
Speaker 4: mainly the result of opportunistic business leaders eager to curry
25:51
Speaker 4: favor with a president unusually active in wanting to direct
25:55
Speaker 4: media coverage, it won't work. In other words, he's saying,
25:58
Speaker 4: if all this is being done just becau some of
26:00
Speaker 4: these media executives on a psych up to Trump, it's
26:02
Speaker 4: not going to work. It's got to be because they
26:05
Speaker 4: actually want to bring journalism.
26:06
Speaker 3: Back and get the hackery out back to the column.
26:10
Speaker 4: There is enough cynicism in the news as it is.
26:13
Speaker 4: If the objections of if the objective of reforming newsrooms
26:16
Speaker 4: is perceived as simply reshaping them into outlets favorably disposed
26:20
Speaker 4: to Trump, it will only calcify the mistrust people already have.
26:24
Speaker 4: It isn't true that trust in the media has simply
26:27
Speaker 4: collapsed across the board. Instead, it has become partisan. Consumers
26:31
Speaker 4: trust only what they already believe. Without structural change, a
26:36
Speaker 4: repopulation of the demographically educationally geographically sealed units, these places
26:43
Speaker 4: have become real, change is improbable. That change is harder
26:47
Speaker 4: still in organizations rooted in all forms of pre digital
26:51
Speaker 4: content delivery, changing form and content at the same time
26:55
Speaker 4: as Herculean, let me interject, I've talked forever about this
26:58
Speaker 4: following point.
27:00
Speaker 3: The people who scream.
27:02
Speaker 4: The most for diversity, diversity, diversity never believe in ideological diversity.
27:07
Speaker 4: True diversity means that you have people whose thoughts come
27:10
Speaker 4: from across the spectrum. They have no particular desire to
27:16
Speaker 4: have lots of conservatives running American universities and lots of
27:20
Speaker 4: conservatives in new zooms, or for that matter, lots of
27:22
Speaker 4: conservatives and government.
27:23
Speaker 3: They don't want that kind of diversity. So that's the
27:30
Speaker 3: entire problem.
27:31
Speaker 4: They don't want the very thing that Baker is saying
27:34
Speaker 4: they need to go back.
27:35
Speaker 3: To in order to survive.
27:36
Speaker 4: He concludes his column, Still, we should wish them luck,
27:40
Speaker 4: and by we, I don't mean only conservatives. I mean
27:43
Speaker 4: everyone who has an interest in fair, honest, and objective
27:46
Speaker 4: news and information as the means by which people are
27:49
Speaker 4: informed about their government and the way they hold the
27:52
Speaker 4: powerful accountable. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This
28:02
Speaker 4: is the Mark Belling Podcast. In the last segment, I
28:06
Speaker 4: shared a column from The Wall Street Journal by Gerard
28:08
Speaker 4: Baker in which he talked about the challenges that are
28:12
Speaker 4: going to face anybody who owns a news media organization
28:15
Speaker 4: and trying to reorient it back toward actual journalistic fairness.
28:20
Speaker 4: The following topics related to this. Part of the problem
28:23
Speaker 4: is that, aside from the fact that they've been biased
28:26
Speaker 4: to the left forever, Trump has made some people in
28:30
Speaker 4: this country crazy. They have turned Trump into this caricature
28:38
Speaker 4: in which the very sight of Trump has made them
28:43
Speaker 4: lose their marbles. Well, this is clearly what's going on
28:46
Speaker 4: with the media, but it's not limited to the media.
28:49
Speaker 4: We have several stories here that are broadly from this
28:51
Speaker 4: area of Trump derangement syndrome, although a couple of them
28:54
Speaker 4: don't specifically deal with Trump.
28:56
Speaker 3: Here's this one.
28:58
Speaker 4: Stories from Massas they were in adjacent to one of
29:03
Speaker 4: the No King's rallies, some Trump supporter dressed himself up
29:07
Speaker 4: as like one of those inflatables.
29:09
Speaker 3: You know what an inflatable is, don't you. It's like
29:13
Speaker 3: it's like this big bubble thing.
29:15
Speaker 4: And he dressed himself up as Trump and he's in
29:17
Speaker 4: this inflatable and he's got like a mouthpiece that it
29:19
Speaker 4: came on, and we's saying pro Trump things and he's
29:22
Speaker 4: doing this next to the No Kegs rally. It's the
29:25
Speaker 4: kind of thing that lefties have done forever. When you
29:27
Speaker 4: see conservatives around, some left he goes and beats the
29:31
Speaker 4: crap on him. He's in an inflatable and he beats
29:34
Speaker 4: him up, beats him up.
29:38
Speaker 3: He of course has been caught. Now.
29:41
Speaker 4: One of the things that's been happening is, given the
29:43
Speaker 4: fact that there's no cameras everywhere, pretty much anything that
29:47
Speaker 4: anyone does is being caught. And secondly, given know that
29:50
Speaker 4: there are some conservatives and position of authority, you can't
29:53
Speaker 4: just automatically assume you're gonna get away with it anymore.
29:56
Speaker 4: Let me quote from Fox News. A Massachusetts man has
29:59
Speaker 4: been charged after alleged the assaulting a supporter of President
30:01
Speaker 4: Trump who was wearing an inflatable costume of the president
30:04
Speaker 4: at a political protest over the weekend.
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Speaker 3: Police said this.
30:08
Speaker 4: Occurred on King's Beach in the North Shore, Massachusetts town
30:13
Speaker 4: of Swampscott, just outside Boston. This is probably I don't
30:17
Speaker 4: know any about the city, but I'm guessing this is
30:19
Speaker 4: like Shorewood on steroids.
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Speaker 3: It's one of those type of places.
30:23
Speaker 4: Cell Phone video captured the moment that Michael Curly I
30:28
Speaker 4: think that that's the correct pronunciation.
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Speaker 3: It maybe curl see. Yeah, I think it's cu rll thirty.
30:34
Speaker 4: Six ran up behind the man in costume identified as
30:37
Speaker 4: Jonathan Silvera, and allegedly kicked.
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Speaker 3: And tackled him from behind. Silvera's girlfriend.
30:43
Speaker 4: So the guy who's in the inflatable he brings his
30:45
Speaker 4: girlfriend a log. Now some people are gonna say, well,
30:51
Speaker 4: he was asking for it. Well, I think he was
30:54
Speaker 4: trying to trigger them and they took the bait. I
30:57
Speaker 4: don't think he thought they'd have the crap kicked out
30:59
Speaker 4: of him. Silvera's girlfriend, Angelo Masariegos, was behind the camera
31:05
Speaker 4: during the alleged assault. Silvera, who held an American flag
31:09
Speaker 4: well dressed in the inflatable suit, told Boston twenty five
31:12
Speaker 4: News he simply wanted to go. He wanted to get
31:14
Speaker 4: Trump out there and show that he has support. I
31:17
Speaker 4: love Donald Trump. Swamp Scott Police said Curl hooked Silvera's
31:23
Speaker 4: legs and wrapped his arms around his neck, knocking him
31:27
Speaker 4: to the pavement, according to a police report of Pained
31:29
Speaker 4: by Boston twenty five.
31:31
Speaker 3: That's a TV stage, don't it. That's my first story.
31:37
Speaker 3: Here's another one.
31:38
Speaker 4: This one doesn't directly relate to Trump, but it's along
31:41
Speaker 4: these lines we've talked.
31:43
Speaker 3: A little bit.
31:43
Speaker 4: There's two states that have governor's races this year. Almost
31:46
Speaker 4: all states have their governor's elections, like Wisconsin does in
31:49
Speaker 4: even number years. There's a couple of states that do
31:53
Speaker 4: it in odd number years. There's an election going on
31:55
Speaker 4: in New Jersey and there's an election going on in Virginia.
32:02
Speaker 4: In Virginia, the current incumbent Governor Youngkin, he's term limited out.
32:06
Speaker 4: Virginia is a Democratic state. Youngkin somehow won. The Republicans
32:10
Speaker 4: are trying to hold the seat. Youngkin's Lieutenant Governor Winsome
32:13
Speaker 4: Earl Searles, who is black, is the Republican candidate. She's
32:19
Speaker 4: trailed in the race, but she's gained. She's very conservative
32:24
Speaker 4: and she's very eloquent.
32:26
Speaker 3: All right.
32:27
Speaker 4: James Madison University football game James Addison is a very
32:31
Speaker 4: good team. If you're not aware that level. Winston, Earl Winston,
32:38
Speaker 4: Earl Sears was at the game campaigny, you know, shaking
32:41
Speaker 4: hands to with you.
32:42
Speaker 3: Know, supporters and so on.
32:46
Speaker 4: Some guy starts yelling at it. I remember she's a
32:48
Speaker 4: black woman, thirty six. She's also originally from Haiti. Take
32:54
Speaker 4: a guess what he yelled at her. Say a guess,
32:57
Speaker 4: real simple, No, you go beyond the end word. It's
33:03
Speaker 4: just the kind of thing that you in the past
33:05
Speaker 4: they always would accuse of a.
33:07
Speaker 3: Conservative of doing.
33:07
Speaker 4: When a conservative racist conservative was triggered, he said.
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Speaker 3: Go back to Haiti. He's captured on video doing it.
33:17
Speaker 4: The guy has a big time job at Lockheed Martin,
33:21
Speaker 4: the big defense contractor.
33:23
Speaker 3: He's been fired.
33:25
Speaker 4: One of the things that's been happening now, and it's
33:28
Speaker 4: a good thing, is that it isn't only conservatives who
33:32
Speaker 4: are getting in trouble for this stuff. When it starts
33:37
Speaker 4: happening to lefties as well as conservatives. You may get
33:42
Speaker 4: some lefties who will come back and say, what about
33:43
Speaker 4: Fraisbach and who is really harmed and shod this, We're
33:46
Speaker 4: ruined your career and so on. But we saw what
33:49
Speaker 4: happened to a woman who worked for manpower and a
33:54
Speaker 4: high powered job who said something I think far less
33:58
Speaker 4: racist somebody call is nowhere near as racist as go
34:02
Speaker 4: back to Haiti. If the left is now going to
34:10
Speaker 4: be on the receiving end of the you're ruining your career.
34:14
Speaker 4: You're ruining your life the way we conservatives have forever.
34:18
Speaker 4: At least the playing field has leveled him lit cellf Ohonte,
34:22
Speaker 4: which gets back to this point with regard to the
34:24
Speaker 4: guy yelling this go back. I mean, most conservatives who
34:26
Speaker 4: have any kind of position of status in life would
34:28
Speaker 4: certainly know that you can't yell anything like that to
34:30
Speaker 4: a person who is black. The LEFTI have probably never
34:33
Speaker 4: dawn on it because of this sense of a titlement
34:35
Speaker 4: that they could be as racist and horrible, as monstrous
34:37
Speaker 4: as they want because they're never held to account for anything.
34:42
Speaker 4: That's what's changing the next story. You want to find
34:45
Speaker 4: a story in the news that is triggering the lefties,
34:50
Speaker 4: I'm telling you they are beside themselves about the Trump ballroom.
34:55
Speaker 3: They're just beside it.
34:57
Speaker 4: If I had no position in whether or not we
34:59
Speaker 4: needed to improve the b at the White House, I
35:01
Speaker 4: would be in favor of it just because it's driving
35:03
Speaker 4: the left he's crazy.
35:06
Speaker 3: First of all, they're.
35:08
Speaker 4: Acting as though Trump's gonna take it with him when
35:10
Speaker 4: he leaves. Trump can only live there for three years
35:13
Speaker 4: in four more months. Secondly, it has been talked about
35:17
Speaker 4: forever and ever and ever by both sides that when
35:21
Speaker 4: the White House hosts Stave ginners, it's almost hardly anybody
35:24
Speaker 4: can get an invitation because the banquet room or the
35:26
Speaker 4: ballroom at the White House is tiny. It's been talked
35:29
Speaker 4: about forever that we can't hold these large things that
35:35
Speaker 4: you can, for example, have an arts celebration, and you
35:40
Speaker 4: can't feed a large group of people because the White.
35:42
Speaker 3: House is a small ballroom.
35:44
Speaker 4: David Marcus is a columnist for Fox News, writes a
35:46
Speaker 4: piece on this, and the point that his piece is
35:49
Speaker 4: that the White House has been renovated and had things
35:52
Speaker 4: added to it forever by presidents, and always the presidents
35:55
Speaker 4: who were doing it is.
35:56
Speaker 3: Because it was something that they wanted to do.
36:00
Speaker 4: As in the case of Trump, this is something that
36:02
Speaker 4: will live long beyond him. Paul says, Obama's basketball court,
36:07
Speaker 4: that's one of them. There's numerous of these in which
36:11
Speaker 4: presidents have put something in the White House because it
36:13
Speaker 4: was something that they wanted to do, and there wasn't
36:17
Speaker 4: a peep of objection.
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Speaker 3: From anyone over this. Let me quote his piece.
36:21
Speaker 4: By the way, apparently this is not surprising to be
36:24
Speaker 4: but among the people most appalled by this are the
36:27
Speaker 4: Battle Axis from the View again, I wouldn't even just
36:30
Speaker 4: this is just again, whether or not we need to
36:32
Speaker 4: have the new ballroom or not, the fact that this
36:34
Speaker 4: is driving those old women crazy that makes me happy
36:38
Speaker 4: that they're doing it.
36:39
Speaker 3: I just the Democrats or socialists or whatever they are.
36:45
Speaker 4: These days, are hoping. This is David Marcus. And by
36:47
Speaker 4: the way, that's the name of someone from here in Milwaukee.
36:49
Speaker 4: That's not who this is. This is a national commentator
36:52
Speaker 4: who writes for Fox News. Shouldn't have to point that
36:53
Speaker 4: out in the common name. But I will our hopping
36:56
Speaker 4: mat over President Donald Trump's construction of a ballroom in
36:58
Speaker 4: the East wing of.
36:59
Speaker 3: The White House.
37:00
Speaker 4: And while it may be the silliest freak out of
37:03
Speaker 4: the entire Trump era, it is also quite telling. The
37:06
Speaker 4: ladies on ABC's The View were apoplectic when they saw
37:09
Speaker 4: images of demolition a fairly ordinary way to begin renovation
37:13
Speaker 4: at sixteen hundred of the saw this, and you know
37:15
Speaker 4: they're knockings. Well, how else do you do a renovation
37:18
Speaker 4: other than knocking down what's already in there. Anybody who's
37:21
Speaker 4: ever got a new bathroom or a kitchen and their
37:23
Speaker 4: house realizes they bust up the thing that's already in there. Right,
37:27
Speaker 4: I'm guessing you get that. Every three years you renovate
37:30
Speaker 4: something out there in the see you just finish. Say,
37:32
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying back to the piece.
37:36
Speaker 3: What makes this? Oh?
37:38
Speaker 4: They echoed one time Resident Hillary Clinton's complained another person.
37:42
Speaker 4: You know why Hillary's hacked off about this? She's she
37:45
Speaker 4: thinks she should be have been in that White House
37:47
Speaker 4: for eight years. She still can't stand the fact that
37:50
Speaker 4: she lost. Can you imagine if she got in with
37:53
Speaker 4: that ball room would look like? Bill wasn't focused on ballrooms.
37:57
Speaker 4: Bill was focused on Hell it's too easy. It was
38:00
Speaker 4: a play on words.
38:01
Speaker 3: It's two.
38:02
Speaker 4: You can figure it out. I'm on a podcast, I'm
38:09
Speaker 4: not allowed to do anything I want. I still can't
38:11
Speaker 4: bring myself to do anything I want anyway. What makes
38:17
Speaker 4: this argument so absurd is that Trump is not building
38:20
Speaker 4: this ballroom for his personal.
38:21
Speaker 3: Use or glory. It's not a vanity project.
38:24
Speaker 4: It is a long considered addition to the executive home
38:27
Speaker 4: that lacked the capacity to hold large indoor events. Trump,
38:31
Speaker 4: as has always been his want, is looking to create grandeur,
38:35
Speaker 4: and that seems to be something to which leftists reflexively object.
38:40
Speaker 4: I think that Marcus is on to a point here.
38:42
Speaker 4: The Trump want says to be beautiful and great and grand,
38:45
Speaker 4: and lefties hate anything that in America is beautiful, great
38:49
Speaker 4: and grand.
38:50
Speaker 3: I have a post by the way on X it
38:54
Speaker 3: was picture Paul said me.
38:55
Speaker 4: I've been talking for some time about how brutally ugly
38:58
Speaker 4: the new Milwaukee Public muse which isn't going to be
39:01
Speaker 4: called the new Public Public Museum is. They're building this
39:04
Speaker 4: thing just to the north of viceer Form, and it's
39:08
Speaker 4: so unbelievably terribly ugly, and it's in the process of
39:12
Speaker 4: going up, so you now see more of the exterior
39:14
Speaker 4: there and just go take a look at it.
39:17
Speaker 3: That's what lefties want.
39:18
Speaker 4: They want to spend a fortune to do something that's
39:20
Speaker 4: so but ugly that you can't stand looking at it,
39:23
Speaker 4: and then claim that they're on the cutting edge. The
39:25
Speaker 4: idea of doing something great and beautiful which is you know,
39:29
Speaker 4: Trump's ballroom is going to be gorgeous. Everything Trump does
39:31
Speaker 4: is high end. It's the thing that he's put his
39:33
Speaker 4: name on. He wants the legacy to have created a
39:36
Speaker 4: beautiful ballroom and left he just can't stand they don't
39:39
Speaker 4: want a beautiful ballroom, especially as long as Trump is
39:42
Speaker 4: in the White House. The funny thing about this is
39:45
Speaker 4: the timeline on this is that it's going to be
39:47
Speaker 4: fully done about in time for the next president to
39:50
Speaker 4: come in. I'm guessing if they finish this thing and
39:53
Speaker 4: AOC gets herself elected, she's not going to close the
39:55
Speaker 4: ballroom down.
39:57
Speaker 3: She'll be basket around in that thing and imagine.
40:03
Speaker 2: Uh.
40:04
Speaker 4: Trump is obviously not the first president to renovate the
40:07
Speaker 4: White House. President Franklin Dello Roosevelt put in a swimming pool.
40:10
Speaker 4: His successor, President Harry Truman, practically gutted the place to
40:14
Speaker 4: add a balcony. President Richard Nixon covered the swimming pool
40:18
Speaker 4: but added a bowling alley. No, I think that's worse
40:22
Speaker 4: than Trump's ball room. Nixon put in a bowling alley
40:25
Speaker 4: and took the swimming pool out in order to do it.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't attack I'm just saying I know.
40:31
Speaker 4: I'm guessing they bitched about that back then because Nixon
40:34
Speaker 4: was hated. You know, Nixon was actually hated a little
40:38
Speaker 4: bit more than Reagan, and Reagan was despised Trump. Trump's
40:41
Speaker 4: all of that simply because the level of hatred that
40:43
Speaker 4: left has is greater than anything any venom that they
40:45
Speaker 4: could have hit.
40:46
Speaker 3: Pretty Nixon put it. It continues here.
40:50
Speaker 4: Finally, President Barack Obama transformed the tennis court into a
40:54
Speaker 4: basketball court.
40:55
Speaker 3: Bomb didn't want to play tennis. He wanted to put it.
40:57
Speaker 4: And why did Obama put it in a back because he
40:59
Speaker 4: wanted to play basketball.
41:01
Speaker 3: Trump isn't doing any.
41:03
Speaker 4: Of this so he can go do a specific thing.
41:06
Speaker 4: He believes that the White House, the home of the
41:08
Speaker 4: government of the United States, should have a grand room
41:11
Speaker 4: for this. That's his belief and he's never hidden his
41:14
Speaker 4: beliefs about American greatness and standards and all.
41:17
Speaker 3: Of this stuff continuing.
41:19
Speaker 4: In fact, I'm not even gonna continue with Marcus's column
41:21
Speaker 4: because he makes points that I think are fairly obvious.
41:24
Speaker 4: But the fact that this triggers the Left just shows
41:27
Speaker 4: how you're rational.
41:28
Speaker 3: They've gotten.
41:30
Speaker 4: Now, you could raise questions about the funding for this,
41:32
Speaker 4: but it is privately generated, so it's not like when
41:36
Speaker 4: the government is shut down, we're spending cas payer money
41:38
Speaker 4: on this. They just don't like the fact that he's
41:41
Speaker 4: doing it. Continuing, here's that other story.
41:45
Speaker 3: Forever and ever and ever, the left has tried to
41:48
Speaker 3: call those of us on the right Nazis.
41:50
Speaker 4: They've kind of changed the word now to call us fascists.
41:55
Speaker 4: I believe it's because they have gradually moved toward.
42:00
Speaker 3: Essentially thinking like the Nazis.
42:03
Speaker 4: Much of the left hates Jews every bit as much
42:08
Speaker 4: as the Nazis did. Hitler was a socialist. The name
42:13
Speaker 4: of the party was something nationalists American Socialist Party. Socialist
42:17
Speaker 4: was in the party's name, their identification, their demand for
42:21
Speaker 4: state control, their demand that everyone follow orders and do
42:25
Speaker 4: things that the way that they want, their loathing of
42:27
Speaker 4: the Jews. It's all Hitler esque, which brings ourselves to
42:31
Speaker 4: a candidate who's running for governor of Maine. His name
42:34
Speaker 4: is Graham Plattner. He's running for the governorship of Maine,
42:39
Speaker 4: and he's being endorsed by Bernie Sanders. He has on
42:43
Speaker 4: his arm a Nazi tattoo, and he's had it on
42:47
Speaker 4: for years now that this story is out there. Bertie
42:52
Speaker 4: Sanders refuses to repudiate his endorsement. The guy is an
42:57
Speaker 4: open critic of Israel, as is Bernie Sanders, quoting from
43:01
Speaker 4: an editorial on this in the Wall Street Journal. And
43:04
Speaker 4: there was a publication called The Jewish Insider that broke
43:07
Speaker 4: the story. Platner said, I am not a secret Nazi.
43:14
Speaker 4: He confirmed that the tattoo, but said he got it
43:16
Speaker 4: while drunk in Croatia in two thousand and seven and
43:19
Speaker 4: didn't know what it meant for some two decades. But
43:22
Speaker 4: on Wednesday he said he finally had it covered up
43:25
Speaker 4: with a new image. But an acquaintance of Platner told
43:29
Speaker 4: The Jewish Insider news side that the candidate explained the
43:32
Speaker 4: tattoo's Nazi connection to him in a cutesy little way
43:36
Speaker 4: at Capitol Hill bar in twenty twelve.
43:38
Speaker 3: So, well, this new thing, I didn't know what it was.
43:40
Speaker 3: Give me a break. Who does it not?
43:42
Speaker 4: Especially lefties who doesn't know what Nazi symbols look like.
43:46
Speaker 3: But is this buddy said?
43:47
Speaker 4: In twenty twelve, he fessed up and while drinking he
43:50
Speaker 4: told him what it meant.
43:51
Speaker 3: That's thirteen years ago. He said, Oh, this is my totenkoff.
43:57
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what that word means. But then'
43:58
Speaker 3: that sound good. All German words sound good, don't they
44:02
Speaker 3: toutn Koff, problen Koff.
44:05
Speaker 4: It just sounds like something that would be a fan
44:06
Speaker 4: well part because of the whole Nazi thing. All German
44:08
Speaker 4: words sound offensive because of the German anyway, this is
44:11
Speaker 4: my totenkoff. That's German for the deathhead symbol of the
44:16
Speaker 4: SS unit that ran the concentration camps.
44:19
Speaker 3: I let didn't know.
44:21
Speaker 4: The totenkov is the deathhead symbol which the SS used.
44:26
Speaker 4: And this guy tells his friend that's my totenkov. He's
44:29
Speaker 4: bragging that he's got in his arms something that is
44:32
Speaker 4: a symbol of the Nazi SS. And it was the
44:35
Speaker 4: SS that ran the concentration camps for the Holocaust occurred.
44:39
Speaker 4: So this guy's coming out and saying he told me
44:41
Speaker 4: this thirteen years ago. Also not buying Plattner's excuse is
44:47
Speaker 4: his former political director. His political director has quit now
44:50
Speaker 4: that he found out about this, who resigned last week.
44:54
Speaker 4: Graham has an anti Semitic tattoo on his chest. He's
44:57
Speaker 4: not an idiot, He's a military history buff.
44:59
Speaker 3: She wrote.
45:00
Speaker 4: We cannot be this painfully stupid, she said, referring to
45:03
Speaker 4: her fellow Democrats The Wall Street Journal, Oh yes they can.
45:07
Speaker 4: On Tuesday, Plattner's key supporter, Senator Bernie Sanders, tried to
45:10
Speaker 4: duck the question. Here's Bertie said, it's easy to do
45:15
Speaker 4: a Bernie Sanders imitation. They're all bad because all you
45:17
Speaker 4: have to do is like lower your voice. She's got
45:20
Speaker 4: that stupid, pompous they ever gonna eat boys that he has.
45:23
Speaker 3: Ron worried about.
45:25
Speaker 4: It's fifty thousand American mcde Unnecessarah Lea and are worried
45:28
Speaker 4: about a tattoo. Suddenly Bernie Sanders says, why are you
45:32
Speaker 4: looking a big deal about a tattoo? All the Lefteris
45:35
Speaker 4: have ever cared is about symbolism like this. These are
45:39
Speaker 4: the people that claim they you know, they claim they
45:41
Speaker 4: were Nazis.
45:42
Speaker 3: And Charlott's swell at all of this. It's the thing
45:43
Speaker 3: that they've.
45:44
Speaker 4: Carried on about forever and ever and ever. I actually
45:46
Speaker 4: hope this guy stays in the race. I hope he
45:48
Speaker 4: becomes the main Democratic candidate. Hope Tammy Balden and all
45:51
Speaker 4: the others of them endorse.
45:52
Speaker 3: Just so we know.
45:55
Speaker 4: Again, this isn't all Trump arrangements syndrome, but broadly speaking,
45:59
Speaker 4: they've all lost their minds, and I think that the
46:02
Speaker 4: presence of Trump is fueled this insanity. I want to
46:08
Speaker 4: cover a story here about a week ago, not sure
46:12
Speaker 4: exactly the timing. On the podcast, I did a brief
46:16
Speaker 4: segment on what I think is the crashing of the
46:22
Speaker 4: subprime loan market. In auto loans, subprime is not credit worthy,
46:28
Speaker 4: in other words, high interest rates loans that are made
46:31
Speaker 4: to people who don't have very good credit. Often you
46:36
Speaker 4: make these loans because you can repossess the car, so
46:38
Speaker 4: you get something back, and you try not to be
46:40
Speaker 4: upside out about it, and so on. Several companies, however, recently,
46:43
Speaker 4: have gone bankrupt. The take that not only I'm not
46:47
Speaker 4: unique in this, many people have the same take that
46:51
Speaker 4: the reason they're going bankrupt isn't just because of the
46:54
Speaker 4: economy slowing, it's because of the deportations. That a huge
46:58
Speaker 4: segment of these loans being made to illegal immigrants. I
47:03
Speaker 4: can tell you just from scuttle but that I've heard
47:06
Speaker 4: that virtually all illegals who buy cars are financing them.
47:10
Speaker 4: Very few cash buyers easy to figure out why right, Well,
47:15
Speaker 4: if I am deported, how are they gonna got that
47:17
Speaker 4: and not gonna keep paying my ky loan. When I
47:23
Speaker 4: brought that segment up, I said, there's a stock of
47:27
Speaker 4: the stock market that I felt was extremely overvalued. I
47:30
Speaker 4: didn't want to mention the name of the company on
47:32
Speaker 4: the air because I didn't want to suggest that somebody
47:38
Speaker 4: short the stock. And I said, I think it's a very,
47:40
Speaker 4: very stupid thing to short a stock that's going up.
47:44
Speaker 4: You can lose an infinite amount of money, literally an
47:50
Speaker 4: infinite amount of money. But it's a company that does
47:54
Speaker 4: a lot of business on the low end. The stock
47:59
Speaker 4: price is done nothing but explode over the last several years.
48:03
Speaker 4: Finally the stock hit a crack this past week, fell
48:08
Speaker 4: thirteen percent in one day, and it was because they
48:10
Speaker 4: were linked to this whole problem of delinquencies in subprime loans.
48:16
Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting that anybody short the stock. I would
48:19
Speaker 4: never do that. It's an extremely risky thing to do.
48:23
Speaker 4: But I do wonder about the company. It's Carvana. Carvana
48:27
Speaker 4: is one of the biggest car sellers in the world.
48:30
Speaker 4: They advertise aggressively and their market base is to go
48:33
Speaker 4: after kind of the lower the lower middle part of
48:36
Speaker 4: the market, and if you look at their financials, they'd
48:40
Speaker 4: carry a lot of paper and very few of their
48:42
Speaker 4: purchase their sales are to cash buyers and so on. Again,
48:46
Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting anybody short the stock, and maybe Carvan
48:48
Speaker 4: is going to be just fine, but there are no
48:50
Speaker 4: some analysts who are taking the pe on that stock
48:53
Speaker 4: is eighty one and they're in an area right now
48:56
Speaker 4: of the economy.
48:58
Speaker 3: Thanks very and.
48:59
Speaker 4: I think you know, the importation thing has a lot
49:01
Speaker 4: of components to it. They were going to be meant,
49:04
Speaker 4: if we continue to have a significant number of people
49:08
Speaker 4: who are illegal deported, there are going to be ramifications
49:11
Speaker 4: in the parts of the economy where those illegal immigrants
49:14
Speaker 4: were economically active, and the car market might be one
49:19
Speaker 4: of them. But certainly a company who's we met one
49:22
Speaker 4: of the companies that went bankrupt a couple of weeks ago.
49:25
Speaker 4: I mentioned the company's logo. Company is called Tricolor. The
49:30
Speaker 4: company's logo was almost exact same thing as the Mexican flag.
49:33
Speaker 4: They were not hiding who it was that they were
49:35
Speaker 4: marketing to. Well, as many of these individuals are booted
49:39
Speaker 4: out of the country, so much for their repayment of
49:42
Speaker 4: any types of loans. It is an economic story to
49:47
Speaker 4: keep an eye on. And finally, this the World Series
49:50
Speaker 4: starts Friday night. I mean, I think the Dodgers are
49:53
Speaker 4: going to win. But what's the point of saying that,
49:55
Speaker 4: Because everybody thinks the Dodgers are going to win. Maybe
49:56
Speaker 4: they will, maybe they want. The one thing they have
49:58
Speaker 4: going against them is Toronto does home field advantage. There
50:02
Speaker 4: is a lengthy story in the Wall Street Journal today
50:04
Speaker 4: about the insane payroll of the Los Angeles Dodgers and
50:09
Speaker 4: the story Pat Murphy was at the Bucks game and
50:13
Speaker 4: the season opened it for the Bucks last day. You
50:15
Speaker 4: gotta you got a larger hand than Chris Middleton got
50:18
Speaker 4: the second largest head of the night. Yanni's got the
50:20
Speaker 4: largest head of the night, but number three was Pat
50:22
Speaker 4: Murphy sitting and the pet vers very popular. Well, there
50:24
Speaker 4: was a thing in which Pat Murphy was pimping the
50:26
Speaker 4: Dodgers when they signed Sho Shohai Atani, and it makes
50:29
Speaker 4: its way out of the Wall Street journalists. They try
50:31
Speaker 4: to draw attention to the difference between a company like
50:33
Speaker 4: the Dodgers that spends an insane amount of money on
50:36
Speaker 4: players at a company like the Brewers. I'm gonna read
50:38
Speaker 4: the first you progress because it's funny. Two years ago,
50:41
Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Dodgers spent more than one billion dollars
50:44
Speaker 4: in the span of a couple of weeks to sign
50:46
Speaker 4: Shoai Yotani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Yamamoto is the Asian marka
50:52
Speaker 4: pitcher who impact pitched.
50:53
Speaker 3: To get well.
50:53
Speaker 4: They all shut out the Brewers. Around the same time,
50:56
Speaker 4: the Milwaukee Brewers responded to the Dodgers largest with am
51:00
Speaker 4: of their own that received considerable less attention. They signed.
51:04
Speaker 4: They acquired journeyman catcher Eric Hayes for a million bucks.
51:11
Speaker 4: One million is what whoor has got cut.
51:14
Speaker 3: Anyway.
51:15
Speaker 4: By the way, do you know how much money Danny
51:16
Speaker 4: Jansen stands to make next year? The guy that the
51:18
Speaker 4: Brewers picked up when they cut has twelve million. That's
51:21
Speaker 4: an option. That option is not going to.
51:23
Speaker 3: Be picked up.
51:26
Speaker 4: This contrast wasn't lost on Pat Murphy, the Brewers newly
51:29
Speaker 4: hired managers. This was two years ago when Patt had
51:32
Speaker 4: just been hired, so he fired off a jokey text
51:35
Speaker 4: message to Dodgers President of Baseball Operations Andrew Friedman, Congratulations
51:40
Speaker 4: to your scouting and player develop making fun of them.
51:42
Speaker 3: What great scouts here you found out, Toddy.
51:46
Speaker 4: Congratulations to your scouting department and player development group for
51:51
Speaker 4: turning over.
51:51
Speaker 3: Every wreck to find these guys.
51:55
Speaker 4: Sorry, we had to sign our backup catcher on the
51:58
Speaker 4: same day to take away your shine. Now, the point
52:01
Speaker 4: of the story is that the Dodgers have spent an
52:05
Speaker 4: insane amount of money, and that's why they have Otania,
52:07
Speaker 4: It's why they have a number of other players. The
52:09
Speaker 4: caveat to that is there are other teams that spend
52:12
Speaker 4: almost as much as the Dodgers and have not had
52:15
Speaker 4: the same.
52:15
Speaker 3: Successes, say the Brewers.
52:18
Speaker 4: The problem with the Dodgers is they not only are
52:21
Speaker 4: spending more money than everybody else, unlike a lot of
52:24
Speaker 4: other big money teams, they're spending it wisely, and that,
52:28
Speaker 4: in my opinion, is why baseball needs a salary cap.
52:31
Speaker 4: Spending a lot of money is not a guarantee of success,
52:34
Speaker 4: but if you spend a lot of money wisely, you
52:38
Speaker 4: are almost guaranteed to be more successful.
52:41
Speaker 3: Than everyone else.
52:43
Speaker 4: So this means people are saying that this means that
52:45
Speaker 4: everybody should cheer against the Dodgers. The problem is Toronto
52:48
Speaker 4: is also a top five payroll team. They're also in
52:51
Speaker 4: an extremely huge market.
52:53
Speaker 3: I think the.
52:53
Speaker 4: Dodgers were not the best team all year, but the
52:56
Speaker 4: best team right now. Given the fact that they knocked
52:59
Speaker 4: out the Brewers, I would mind them seeing them not
53:01
Speaker 4: go Toronto, But there is that whole issue with regard
53:04
Speaker 4: to the payroll. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. This
53:09
Speaker 4: is the Mark Belling Podcast, and it's time for our
53:11
Speaker 4: weekly football preview and some point spread picks. I'm looking
53:15
Speaker 4: forward for a change to the point spread picks because
53:17
Speaker 4: I'm having a really good year. But before we get
53:19
Speaker 4: to that, we're going to preview some football games this weekend.
53:22
Speaker 4: I'm joined by Mike burletta of American Sports Analysts in Madison.
53:25
Speaker 4: Asawins dot com is their website. Mike, good afternoon and
53:31
Speaker 4: a good day, I guess, and tell us what's going
53:34
Speaker 4: on this weekend at ASA.
53:36
Speaker 2: Well, we had just to be upfront.
53:38
Speaker 4: We did.
53:38
Speaker 2: We had a poor college outing last weekend and okay,
53:42
Speaker 2: NFL we broke about even last week and we won
53:44
Speaker 2: a six star in an NFL and lost a six
53:46
Speaker 2: star in college. Kind of split out in the big games.
53:49
Speaker 2: Not one hundred percent sure what's going on this week,
53:51
Speaker 2: and I would just visit our site tomorrow, take a look,
53:54
Speaker 2: see what we've got. We'll have a weekend package up
53:57
Speaker 2: in big game packages up to move.
53:59
Speaker 4: Okay, let's start talking about college football first, and this
54:03
Speaker 4: week I pulled out two games that are really similar.
54:07
Speaker 4: They're both from the SEC. All four teams involved have
54:12
Speaker 4: a record of six and one on the season, and
54:16
Speaker 4: in the cases of I don't know two or three
54:18
Speaker 4: of them, they're not the kinds of teams that you
54:21
Speaker 4: think of as being national powers, but all four of
54:23
Speaker 4: them are ranked. The first game I want to talk
54:25
Speaker 4: about is Mississippi and Oklahoma. Oklahoma has a very good defense. Mississippi,
54:33
Speaker 4: since Lane Kiffin has gotten there, seems to be one
54:37
Speaker 4: notch below the very top tier of the SEC, which
54:40
Speaker 4: is the very top tier of college football. Mississippi has
54:44
Speaker 4: a very good offense. As usual, this year, they play Oklahoma,
54:47
Speaker 4: whose defense is very good. Your thoughts on the game.
54:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma is a five point favorite in that game
54:55
Speaker 2: at home, and you kind of hit it on the head.
54:58
Speaker 2: It's going to come down to old. Missus offense is
55:02
Speaker 2: really good. They're average thirty seven points per game, but
55:04
Speaker 2: they haven't played a defense quite like Oklahoma. Yet the
55:07
Speaker 2: best defense Old Missus played is LSU and they scored
55:10
Speaker 2: twenty four points in that game. Last week, they did
55:13
Speaker 2: score thirty five points in a loss against Georgia, but
55:17
Speaker 2: only had three hundred and fifty total yards. Can they
55:19
Speaker 2: bounce back the way they lost last week? They were
55:22
Speaker 2: up nine in the fourth quarter and got out scored
55:24
Speaker 2: seventeen to zero against Georgia. You mentioned Oklahoma.
55:29
Speaker 3: I believe that game was at Georgia, correct, it was.
55:32
Speaker 4: And this game's on the road too, so they have
55:34
Speaker 4: to go from Georgia to Oklahoma, which is that's daunting,
55:37
Speaker 4: but that's what the SEC is, I guess is the
55:40
Speaker 4: Badger's going to test. That's also what the Big Ten
55:42
Speaker 4: is anyway.
55:44
Speaker 2: And you mentioned their defense. For people that don't follow
55:46
Speaker 2: it close, Oklahoma's got the best defense in the country.
55:49
Speaker 2: They give up two hundred and thirteen yards per game,
55:51
Speaker 2: they're number one in yards per play allowed, and they
55:53
Speaker 2: give up nine points per game. Ohio State's the only
55:55
Speaker 2: better defense when it comes to scoring. In seven games
55:59
Speaker 2: this Yearklahoma's allowed five offensive touchdowns in seven games. It's
56:04
Speaker 2: going to be an interesting battle to see, which you know,
56:07
Speaker 2: Ole miss offense as good as we think, or is
56:09
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's defense as good as we think? We'll see how
56:12
Speaker 2: it plays out, but Oklahoma is a five point favorite in.
56:15
Speaker 4: This Oklahoma has really transformed its program. They had the
56:19
Speaker 4: really high powered rocket offense, and then their coach went
56:22
Speaker 4: off to USC and they hired the defensive coordinator I
56:25
Speaker 4: believe from Clemson, and the offense at Oklahoma isn't that good,
56:29
Speaker 4: but he's brought in an extremely good defense. So the
56:33
Speaker 4: Oklahoma program has pulled off the feet of just completely
56:37
Speaker 4: reinventing itself and making it work.
56:40
Speaker 3: That's not always easy to do, but they seem to be.
56:43
Speaker 4: They seem to be back as I say that both
56:46
Speaker 4: teams are six and one, No, that's all together, that's
56:48
Speaker 4: not just the conference seems to be evenly matched.
56:50
Speaker 3: I wonder if the.
56:51
Speaker 4: Game is at Mississippi, if maybe Mississippi would be favored.
56:55
Speaker 4: Very similar game, although maybe more interest than given the
56:58
Speaker 4: teams involved. Zuri at Vanderbilt, I'll admit I felt for
57:04
Speaker 4: years Vanderbilt needed to drop out of the SEC. To me,
57:08
Speaker 4: they're like Northwestern is in the Big Ten. It's very
57:11
Speaker 4: hard for a program like that to compete against its
57:15
Speaker 4: private school high academic school doesn't have as huge an
57:19
Speaker 4: alumni base because the enrollment isn't as large, and they've
57:22
Speaker 4: been overmatched in most sports forever and ever and ever,
57:26
Speaker 4: and in football they were almost always finishing last. Somehow
57:31
Speaker 4: the current coach has turned that program around. They're very good.
57:35
Speaker 4: If you would have told me five years ago that
57:38
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt would be ranked tenth in the country at any point,
57:42
Speaker 4: I'd say it havef to be forty years down the
57:43
Speaker 4: line where something would have to be have to be
57:45
Speaker 4: incredibly different. But they're six and one. They ranked tenth
57:48
Speaker 4: in the country. They play Missouri, a team that joined
57:52
Speaker 4: the SEC a few years ago, I think, also a
57:55
Speaker 4: team that you think would be up against it when
57:57
Speaker 4: they were in the Big I guess the Big Eight
58:00
Speaker 4: at the time, they weren't that good, but they're now
58:03
Speaker 4: a dominant power in the SEC as well.
58:06
Speaker 3: Two teams that have sort of emerged.
58:08
Speaker 4: And there's still a lot of season left and they
58:09
Speaker 4: can take losses, but both teams appear to be very,
58:13
Speaker 4: very good, and I think in both instances you have
58:15
Speaker 4: to credit coaches who've come in and excelled at programs.
58:19
Speaker 4: Ritzman hard to excel, especially Vanderbilt where there's just no
58:22
Speaker 4: history of it at all.
58:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean zero history. They showed some signs last year.
58:28
Speaker 2: Mark they had some.
58:29
Speaker 4: They did, they did, they were It never happens all
58:32
Speaker 4: at once, but they showed improvement last year and now
58:34
Speaker 4: this year they're.
58:35
Speaker 3: The top ten.
58:37
Speaker 2: Yeah. And to put in perspective their situation. So they
58:41
Speaker 2: were favored last week against LSU by one and a half,
58:45
Speaker 2: they won the game by seven. It's the first time
58:48
Speaker 2: they were favored against LSU since nineteen forty eight, my goodness,
58:54
Speaker 2: and they won that game. And to put it even
58:56
Speaker 2: in more perspectives, so they're favored this week again. They're
58:59
Speaker 2: faired by two and a half against Missouri. Going into
59:02
Speaker 2: last week, the last time Vanderbilt was favored in an
59:05
Speaker 2: SEC game was twenty eighteen. They had gone fifty one
59:09
Speaker 2: straight conference games as an underdog until last week. And
59:13
Speaker 2: now they're favored and back to back weeks. How do
59:15
Speaker 2: they handle the expectations now they have the target on
59:18
Speaker 2: their back. They're favored back to back weeks. ESPN game days.
59:22
Speaker 2: There there's more distractions. They are in the better situation.
59:26
Speaker 2: All that being said, here, they had a bye week
59:29
Speaker 2: entering last week So now they're home. Back to back
59:31
Speaker 2: after a bye, Missouri played on the road at Auburn
59:35
Speaker 2: won in double overtime twenty three to seventeen. A week earlier,
59:38
Speaker 2: another game down to the wire for Missouri against Alabama.
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Speaker 2: They lost by three. They're on the road again. Now
59:44
Speaker 2: it's a tough spot for Missouri. But we'll see how
59:48
Speaker 2: Vandy handles expectations now. They're in a different role now
59:53
Speaker 2: this weekend, I'll tell a lot about.
59:54
Speaker 3: The they are.
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Speaker 4: And I'm not sure. I really am not sure who
59:57
Speaker 4: the better team is. Vanderbilt's favored, but I think that's
1:00:00
Speaker 4: because they're at home again.
1:00:02
Speaker 3: Just like the other game.
1:00:03
Speaker 4: I think if this game was at Missouri, Missouri would
1:00:06
Speaker 4: probably be favored.
1:00:07
Speaker 3: Let's turn our attention to the NFL.
1:00:09
Speaker 4: The Packers play the Steelers, and the obvious storyline is
1:00:12
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers face is Green Bay, but there are other
1:00:15
Speaker 4: ones as well. I mean, the Steelers are always pretty good,
1:00:19
Speaker 4: but they're coming off of a terrible loss. I mean,
1:00:23
Speaker 4: for people who think that the Packers were unconvincing when
1:00:27
Speaker 4: they played Cincinnati, Pittsburgh had a very very difficult time
1:00:32
Speaker 4: and effect.
1:00:33
Speaker 3: Lost to them as well.
1:00:34
Speaker 4: The Steelers' offense both sides of the ball with Pittsburgh
1:00:38
Speaker 4: seems to be inconsistent. My problem with the Packers is, well,
1:00:41
Speaker 4: they're for to one and one, which is a first place.
1:00:43
Speaker 3: Record in the eye test.
1:00:44
Speaker 4: They still ever since the first two weeks of the season,
1:00:47
Speaker 4: since we've gotten past those two games, they haven't looked
1:00:50
Speaker 4: to me to be that impressive, even though they keep
1:00:54
Speaker 4: winning the games at Pittsburgh, the Packers are favorite on
1:00:57
Speaker 4: the road by about three. Tough game to figure out.
1:01:00
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on it?
1:01:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the Packers just the eye test. I
1:01:04
Speaker 2: agree with you. After the first two games Detroit Washington,
1:01:08
Speaker 2: you know, most people thought, well, that looks the Packers
1:01:10
Speaker 2: look like maybe the best team in the NFL, and
1:01:13
Speaker 2: just spread wise, they've been overvalued. They haven't covered since
1:01:17
Speaker 2: those first two games. They're zero and four against the
1:01:19
Speaker 2: spread their last four games, losing by about six points
1:01:22
Speaker 2: a game to the spread. Pittsburgh is not as good
1:01:27
Speaker 2: as their record right now. They're four and two. They
1:01:30
Speaker 2: are ranked twenty fifth or lower in both total offense
1:01:33
Speaker 2: and total defense. They're getting out gained by almost eighty
1:01:37
Speaker 2: yards per game. They found a way to be four
1:01:39
Speaker 2: and two. The one thing couple spread things here, Mark
1:01:42
Speaker 2: the one thing about Pittsburgh. They're one of the best
1:01:45
Speaker 2: home underdog teams period in the NFL, and this has
1:01:48
Speaker 2: been for a long time. They're four and one against
1:01:50
Speaker 2: the spread since the start of last season as a
1:01:52
Speaker 2: home underdog. If you go back to two thousand, they're
1:01:55
Speaker 2: twenty five and nine against the spread as a home underdog.
1:01:59
Speaker 2: Green Bay as a road favorite since twenty twenty two
1:02:03
Speaker 2: is four and ten against the spread, and Jordan loves
1:02:05
Speaker 2: since he started as a road favorite two and seven
1:02:08
Speaker 2: against the spread. It's a better situation for Pittsburgh, right.
1:02:12
Speaker 2: They have ten days off after their dad loss to Cincinnati.
1:02:15
Speaker 2: Green Bay had the travel problems last week, got to
1:02:18
Speaker 2: Arizona late, could have lost that game. Now they're on
1:02:21
Speaker 2: the road again. Yeah, I think it's a dangerous game
1:02:25
Speaker 2: for the Packers, and I don't think the Pittsburgh is
1:02:26
Speaker 2: all that good. I think the situation favores Pittsburgh here.
1:02:31
Speaker 4: The other game that I pulled out this week is
1:02:34
Speaker 4: I just think it's a really interesting game. It's Dallas
1:02:38
Speaker 4: and Denver. The coach I think might have, especially when healthy,
1:02:42
Speaker 4: the best offense in the NFL, and the worst defense.
1:02:46
Speaker 4: Denver has a very very good defense, and their offense
1:02:50
Speaker 4: last week was atrocious the first three quarters, and then
1:02:53
Speaker 4: on the fourth quarter they scored thirty three points in
1:02:55
Speaker 4: one quarter to come from behind, one of the biggest
1:02:57
Speaker 4: comebacks in NFL history. So curious team, But clearly I
1:03:02
Speaker 4: think you can say that the strength of Denver is
1:03:04
Speaker 4: their defense, and the strength of the Cowboys is the offense.
1:03:06
Speaker 4: And Dallas's defense is their incredible weakness. Usually, when a
1:03:12
Speaker 4: good offense faces a good defense, you have to side
1:03:15
Speaker 4: with the defense.
1:03:16
Speaker 3: What do you think about this game?
1:03:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you hit it right on the head
1:03:19
Speaker 2: with Dall they ranked number one in total offense and
1:03:21
Speaker 2: last in total defense. That's just the number of straight numbers.
1:03:24
Speaker 2: They're first into offense, last in defense.
1:03:29
Speaker 4: I have to also think that based on just six
1:03:31
Speaker 4: weeks of this, the Packers got the better of the
1:03:34
Speaker 4: Parsons trade. Now, admittedly the Packers gave up draft choices,
1:03:36
Speaker 4: then you have to valuate over the long haul, but
1:03:39
Speaker 4: Dallas clearly needs Parsons, and I think Green Bay would
1:03:43
Speaker 4: be lost without him. I mean, it wasn't a straight
1:03:46
Speaker 4: up trade of Parsons for Kenny Clark, but at least
1:03:48
Speaker 4: in terms of this year on the field. It is
1:03:51
Speaker 4: the other parts. The draft choices are in the future.
1:03:54
Speaker 4: But Dallas's defense having lost Parsons is just they give
1:04:00
Speaker 4: up a ton of points. But I'm just I make
1:04:03
Speaker 4: their offense they have just they're nothing but all pro
1:04:06
Speaker 4: receivers and they're helping Dak Prescott to get into the
1:04:09
Speaker 4: MVP talk just because he's got such great receivers out there,
1:04:13
Speaker 4: and not a bad running game either.
1:04:14
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, they're games. This year. Dallas games are averaging
1:04:19
Speaker 2: sixty one total points per game, which is highest in
1:04:22
Speaker 2: the NFL. They're averaging seven touchdowns combined per game, number
1:04:26
Speaker 2: one in the NFL, and they're averaging almost eight hundred
1:04:29
Speaker 2: totally yards per game, most in the NFL. Those are
1:04:32
Speaker 2: just Dallas games. The Denver game we talked about last week,
1:04:36
Speaker 2: Denver scored twenty five points in the last five minutes
1:04:39
Speaker 2: and twenty seconds of the game last week to win,
1:04:43
Speaker 2: come back and win. They only led the game for
1:04:45
Speaker 2: a minute the whole game and they ended up winning
1:04:48
Speaker 2: thirty three to thirty two. To put that in perspective,
1:04:51
Speaker 2: and you may have heard this, this is not my
1:04:53
Speaker 2: stat I found this stat over the last sixteen hundred
1:04:58
Speaker 2: games where team in the NFL led by eighteen or
1:05:02
Speaker 2: more with less than sixteen with less than six minutes
1:05:05
Speaker 2: to go, those teams were sixteen hundred and zero.
1:05:09
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's surprise.
1:05:12
Speaker 4: Now in college, I know that's not the case because
1:05:14
Speaker 4: there's been lots of wild comebacks in college.
1:05:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:05:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that he didn't say thirty eight point lead.
1:05:20
Speaker 4: I think you said it was an eighteen point.
1:05:22
Speaker 2: Lead, eighteen or more with less than six minutes to
1:05:24
Speaker 2: go in the game. Those teams have won sixteen hundred.
1:05:27
Speaker 4: And the key is it's not seventeen, it's eighteen, meaning
1:05:29
Speaker 4: it's a three. It's three scores that you have to
1:05:31
Speaker 4: come up with, and three scores and probably three touchdowns
1:05:37
Speaker 4: unless you get a two point conversion or something in there.
1:05:39
Speaker 4: So eighteen becomes a hard number just in terms of
1:05:42
Speaker 4: having the time available. It requires, well, it requires two things.
1:05:46
Speaker 4: It requires the other team to play a great game
1:05:48
Speaker 4: to that point, to be une by as much as
1:05:50
Speaker 4: they were, and then a total meltdown. And if any
1:05:52
Speaker 4: team was capable of that, it's been the Giants who've
1:05:55
Speaker 4: been pulling this for the last two or three years.
1:05:59
Speaker 2: Yes, that is true. This is gonna be a great game, Dad,
1:06:01
Speaker 2: Like you said, Denver's offense Dallas defense the total open
1:06:04
Speaker 2: forty seven and a half and moved up to fifty
1:06:06
Speaker 2: and a half, So that might be that might be
1:06:08
Speaker 2: telling people are thinking, people that know what they're doing
1:06:11
Speaker 2: think it's going to be a high scoring game. And
1:06:12
Speaker 2: I don't disagree.
1:06:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think anybody can stop Dallas, but
1:06:16
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that they're going to win the game,
1:06:17
Speaker 4: which certainly implies a high scoring game. Okay, time to
1:06:20
Speaker 4: get to some pointspread selections. Mike has made a tremendous
1:06:24
Speaker 4: recovery after his disgraceful startup zero to five. You've done
1:06:28
Speaker 4: everything that you can since then to make that record better,
1:06:31
Speaker 4: which is win three games in a row.
1:06:33
Speaker 3: In fact, looking at our.
1:06:34
Speaker 4: Picks last week, my three favorite games pro in college
1:06:38
Speaker 4: for combined for the three that were picked on this show.
1:06:41
Speaker 4: My own pick obviously was my favorite, Mike's pick was
1:06:44
Speaker 4: a second, and Paul's pick, which lost, was my third
1:06:48
Speaker 4: favorite pick. Anyway, recapping the picks from all of us,
1:06:50
Speaker 4: I took the Bears to beat the Saints by more
1:06:52
Speaker 4: than four and a half, and they won by twelve,
1:06:54
Speaker 4: twenty six to fourteen, Mike went against Wisconsin, laying twenty
1:06:58
Speaker 4: five and a half Ohio State. Wisconsin's defense played very
1:07:02
Speaker 4: good and their offense again was non existent. Ohio State
1:07:05
Speaker 4: won thirty four to nothing, So that was a win.
1:07:07
Speaker 4: And Paul took the Bikings one and a half point
1:07:09
Speaker 4: underdog over the Eagles, and that was a loser.
1:07:12
Speaker 3: On twenty two to twenty eight.
1:07:14
Speaker 4: So Paul's at two and six, Mics improving up to
1:07:16
Speaker 4: three and five, and I'm sail.
1:07:17
Speaker 3: Along at six and two. But all of that is history.
1:07:20
Speaker 4: What have you done for me lately? Well, we're gonna
1:07:21
Speaker 4: find out right now, Paul, you get to go first.
1:07:25
Speaker 4: Paul says he can't pick his nose. I, as I said,
1:07:28
Speaker 4: I kind of liked I did like your pick last week,
1:07:30
Speaker 4: but it was mostly I don't know what to think
1:07:33
Speaker 4: of Philadelphia right now. I just one week they look terrible,
1:07:36
Speaker 4: one week they look good, very inconsistent. The Bikings I
1:07:40
Speaker 4: just think are an average team with average quarterbacks. But
1:07:42
Speaker 4: Philadelphia surprised me and bouncing back in there. Anyway, what
1:07:46
Speaker 4: do you want to go with, Paul? You're going to
1:07:48
Speaker 4: go to a college game. You were just see that
1:07:50
Speaker 4: you're in just desperate straits right now, you're giving up
1:07:53
Speaker 4: on the NFL, that you're going to college. He's going
1:07:57
Speaker 4: to go to George Case stands around and go to
1:07:59
Speaker 4: the opposite All right, what game were you asking about?
1:08:03
Speaker 4: Wisconsin and Oregon? The game is at Oregon, Wisconsin completing
1:08:07
Speaker 4: this brutal schedule streak that they've been in. He wants
1:08:11
Speaker 4: the over under in the Wisconsin Oregon game.
1:08:14
Speaker 3: Oh and the point spread.
1:08:15
Speaker 4: Current point spread is thirty three and a half Oregon,
1:08:18
Speaker 4: and the total is forty three and a half. You've
1:08:21
Speaker 4: got one of those situations in which a big spread
1:08:24
Speaker 4: and a low total, meaning the odds makers think that
1:08:27
Speaker 4: the underdog isn't going to score much. And it's not
1:08:29
Speaker 4: surprising Wisconsin is not sword in two games in a row.
1:08:33
Speaker 4: Those are the lines, though, forty three and a half
1:08:35
Speaker 4: and thirty one and a half. Thirty one and a
1:08:39
Speaker 4: half for the point spread and the total.
1:08:42
Speaker 3: Let me go check it again. Now you got me
1:08:44
Speaker 3: mixed up.
1:08:45
Speaker 4: I think it was forty three and a half, but
1:08:47
Speaker 4: I want to make sure I'm correct.
1:08:51
Speaker 3: Paul says, he knows what I've It is forty three
1:08:53
Speaker 3: and a half. Portland. He's saying Portland. You know, so Littois,
1:09:03
Speaker 3: you mean Oregon Portland.
1:09:06
Speaker 4: First of all, Portland is a city, it's not the
1:09:09
Speaker 4: name of Well, there is a university called Portland, but
1:09:10
Speaker 4: I think they only play basketball. Secondly, the University of
1:09:13
Speaker 4: Oregon is not in Portland. It's it's in kind of
1:09:16
Speaker 4: like a suburb. It's in the metro area. I believe
1:09:19
Speaker 4: is you're taking Oregon, is that what you're saying, that's
1:09:23
Speaker 4: one will be the one that you're probably right there.
1:09:25
Speaker 4: So you can't even spit out your pick other than
1:09:27
Speaker 4: Wisconsin can't score. Is there any insight you want to
1:09:30
Speaker 4: bring to us on this? They are ranked sixth in
1:09:35
Speaker 4: the country. Their only loss is to another really interesting team, Indiana,
1:09:40
Speaker 4: who beat them.
1:09:41
Speaker 3: Indiana is just.
1:09:42
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of I talked about Vanderbilt. Indiana
1:09:45
Speaker 4: is the other just shocking team about how good they are.
1:09:48
Speaker 4: That was their one loss. You're right, Pauls's the players
1:09:53
Speaker 4: look like they may have given up. I actually thought
1:09:57
Speaker 4: they'd give up against Ohio State, and they didn't. I
1:09:59
Speaker 4: thought they as hard as they could, especially on defense,
1:10:02
Speaker 4: and it still still didn't do any good. So that's
1:10:06
Speaker 4: Paul's pick before we get a reaction from Mike on
1:10:10
Speaker 4: that game. It's my game as well, and I have
1:10:12
Speaker 4: the exact same pick. I'm taking Oregon. There are four
1:10:15
Speaker 4: games that I like this weekend and two that I
1:10:17
Speaker 4: like almost equally, and I'm gonna mention when I'm not
1:10:20
Speaker 4: taking even though it just there's a problem with the points.
1:10:23
Speaker 3: Spread on it.
1:10:24
Speaker 4: I really think Atlanta is gonna bomb Miami and this
1:10:28
Speaker 4: is going to be the week that McDaniel gets fired
1:10:30
Speaker 4: as the coach of the Dolphins. The problem that I
1:10:32
Speaker 4: have is that the spread is seven and a half
1:10:35
Speaker 4: and not seven. I hate three and a half and
1:10:37
Speaker 4: I hate seven and a half. I actually think Atlanta
1:10:40
Speaker 4: can win the game buy better than two touchdowns. Miami
1:10:44
Speaker 4: is an absolute mess. You talk about a team that's
1:10:46
Speaker 4: quit their best player. Tyreek Hill is out forever. The
1:10:49
Speaker 4: quarterback is banged up and not playing very well, the
1:10:52
Speaker 4: players are tired of the weirdo coach. And Atlanta is
1:10:57
Speaker 4: one of the best two or three defenses in the league.
1:10:59
Speaker 4: They're only three and three, but their defense is really good.
1:11:02
Speaker 4: But I'm not taking that. I'm just going to go
1:11:04
Speaker 4: back to the Badger game and just use basic logic here.
1:11:08
Speaker 4: I think you have another week in which Wisconsin, with
1:11:11
Speaker 4: no matter who the quarterback is going to be, if
1:11:13
Speaker 4: it's going to be the third string of the second stringer,
1:11:15
Speaker 4: they've shown no ability to score whatsoever. Oregon's offense is better,
1:11:20
Speaker 4: I think than the Ohio State offense that Wisconsin played
1:11:22
Speaker 4: last week. Last week, Wisconsin was at least at home
1:11:26
Speaker 4: in Madison. Oregon is at home here. Oregon has a
1:11:30
Speaker 4: bye next week, so they have nothing to leave on
1:11:33
Speaker 4: the table here. And I just think that Wisconsin has
1:11:37
Speaker 4: gone through this grinder of playing Iowa and Ohio State
1:11:41
Speaker 4: to extremely physical teams, and they were crushed by both
1:11:46
Speaker 4: of them. I think that the team, even if it
1:11:49
Speaker 4: hasn't mentally quit, has physically just beaten down. And I
1:11:54
Speaker 4: think that they're going to have no answers for Oregon,
1:11:56
Speaker 4: and I fear that it's going to be ugly. It's
1:11:59
Speaker 4: more points than you did against Ohio State, but the
1:12:03
Speaker 4: game is at Oregon and Wisconsin is another week beaten up.
1:12:07
Speaker 4: Wisconsin sustained quite a few injuries last week, with players
1:12:10
Speaker 4: nicked all over the place. I don't know how they
1:12:12
Speaker 4: keep it within that line. I would actually go over
1:12:15
Speaker 4: the total because I think Oregon's going to score more
1:12:17
Speaker 4: than forty four points because the Wisconsin defense has played valiantly,
1:12:21
Speaker 4: but they're beaten up and they have to spend the
1:12:24
Speaker 4: entire game on the field because the offense can't move
1:12:26
Speaker 4: the ball at all. So I'm going to go and
1:12:30
Speaker 4: kind of jump where I normally come in and pick,
1:12:32
Speaker 4: because I'm reiterating Paul's pick.
1:12:34
Speaker 3: So rather than well, yeah, has it, Paul and I
1:12:38
Speaker 3: are on Portland.
1:12:40
Speaker 4: Actually that's a bad team to be on right now,
1:12:42
Speaker 4: given the fact that the Portland basketball team's coach has
1:12:45
Speaker 4: been charged by the FBI and in a gambling investigation.
1:12:48
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's go.
1:12:49
Speaker 4: Let's get a quick reaction from Mike on that game.
1:12:51
Speaker 4: Unless Mike Cook went against Wisconsin himself last week, that's
1:12:55
Speaker 4: not going to be your pick this week, is it.
1:12:57
Speaker 2: No, it's not. But I don't disagree with you guys.
1:12:59
Speaker 2: I mean, they haven't scored the last two weeks. Oregon
1:13:01
Speaker 2: as good as their offenses, they have a.
1:13:03
Speaker 4: Top five defense defense actually better, and you know their
1:13:06
Speaker 4: coach is a defensive coach, Lanning.
1:13:08
Speaker 3: I think their defense is better than their offense.
1:13:14
Speaker 4: There with Ohio States defense, and I think that the
1:13:16
Speaker 4: offense is actually I just the one pause I have
1:13:21
Speaker 4: is they show showed a chink in the armor and
1:13:24
Speaker 4: losing at home to Indiana and their win over Penn
1:13:28
Speaker 4: State is no longer as impressive as it seemed to be.
1:13:31
Speaker 4: I just think that Wisconsin's whipped that there and it's
1:13:35
Speaker 4: a spectacularly good spot for Oregon back home with the
1:13:38
Speaker 4: buy next.
1:13:39
Speaker 3: And they're coming off of.
1:13:40
Speaker 4: They killed Rutgers last week, and Rutgers for Rutgers is
1:13:44
Speaker 4: better than Wisconsin, I think, And they killed them last
1:13:46
Speaker 4: week and they killed them at Rutgers a West Coast
1:13:48
Speaker 4: team going to the East. So they have everything going
1:13:51
Speaker 4: for them in this situation, and wisconstant, is everything going
1:13:54
Speaker 4: against it. I just think there's a distract shit with
1:13:56
Speaker 4: is the ax gonna come down? And fickle all of that. Anyway,
1:13:59
Speaker 4: let's get a.
1:13:59
Speaker 3: Pick, Mike. Where are we going?
1:14:01
Speaker 2: Okay, two games? I need the spreads for first one,
1:14:06
Speaker 2: I need a total on the Mississippi Oklahoma game that
1:14:09
Speaker 2: we just talked about. Fifty is the number one. Fifty.
1:14:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, that over under on that game is fifty four
1:14:17
Speaker 4: and a half.
1:14:19
Speaker 2: And then let's look at this the just the spread
1:14:23
Speaker 2: on the Texas and Mississippi State games one seventy five,
1:14:26
Speaker 2: one seventy.
1:14:27
Speaker 4: Six, seven. Texas is only favored by seven. I think
1:14:33
Speaker 4: the most disappointing offense college football is Texas's offense. And
1:14:37
Speaker 4: you can't even put it all. I think on Arch Manning,
1:14:39
Speaker 4: he's he hasn't looked terrible. I just think that just
1:14:42
Speaker 4: surprising from being a member of the Manning family. He
1:14:45
Speaker 4: takes forever to make a decision, the kind of the
1:14:47
Speaker 4: exact opposite of what Peyton Manning at least was known for.
1:14:50
Speaker 4: Arch Manning will sit in the pocket and he he's
1:14:53
Speaker 4: aversed a guessing, he's been drilled into him, don't commit turnovers.
1:14:57
Speaker 4: But he waits too long with the ball. And but
1:14:59
Speaker 4: Mississippi sty it's not very good either. So Texas on
1:15:02
Speaker 4: the road favored by seven.
1:15:03
Speaker 2: Mike, let's go at the first game. You talked, I'm
1:15:07
Speaker 2: going under fifty four and a half and they'll miss
1:15:09
Speaker 2: Oklahoma game.
1:15:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we discussed that it's a great defense against
1:15:16
Speaker 4: a very very good offense in Mississippi, and you're leaning
1:15:18
Speaker 4: on the side of the defense by saying under the total.
1:15:21
Speaker 3: Give me your reasons why.
1:15:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we talked about a lot of it. A
1:15:25
Speaker 2: couple of things I didn't touch on. If you look
1:15:27
Speaker 2: at Mississippi's offense, again, they averaged thirty seven points per game,
1:15:31
Speaker 2: but their average defensive team they've faced bring seventy third
1:15:34
Speaker 2: in total defense. They played three top fifty defenses this
1:15:39
Speaker 2: year and scored twenty four against LSU, twenty four against
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Speaker 2: Washington State, who is like forty ninth in total defense,
1:15:45
Speaker 2: and again last week they scored thirty five against Georgia,
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Speaker 2: but only had three hundred and fifty total yards. That
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Speaker 2: normally quits the low twenties scoring wise, so they got
1:15:54
Speaker 2: a little lucky to get to that point. And you
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Speaker 2: mentioned it. We didn't talk about much about the offense
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Speaker 2: for Oklahoma, but they've been held to twenty six points
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Speaker 2: or less and four of their six FBS games, and
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Speaker 2: the two they did they top twenty six was against
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Speaker 2: Kent who's one hundred and thirty third in total defense.
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Speaker 2: In Temple was seventy fifth in total defense, so they
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Speaker 2: don't have a real explosive offense. I think this is
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Speaker 2: gonna be a more of a grinder game. Last year
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Speaker 2: they played in the final scores twenty six to fourteen,
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Speaker 2: and that's when Ole Miss had a phenomenal offense with
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Speaker 2: Jackson Dark Again, it was twenty six to fourteen in
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Speaker 2: that game. I think this goes well under fifty four
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Speaker 2: and a half.
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Speaker 3: Paul made it error, which I'll point out.
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Speaker 4: There's no reason to point it out other than I
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Speaker 4: enjoy playing O it's Mississippi, not Mississippi State that they're
1:16:39
Speaker 4: they're playing anyway. Okay, that's Mike's pick, and it's an
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Speaker 4: interesting one. He says the under in Oklahoma and Mississippi
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Speaker 4: under fifty four and a half. Paul and I both
1:16:49
Speaker 4: think Oregon beats Wisconsin by thirty two or more. We'll
1:16:52
Speaker 4: be back with another football preview at the end of
1:16:55
Speaker 4: next Thursday's podcast, and that's it for the weekend.
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Speaker 3: Talk to you on Monday.
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