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The Bill Gates Epstein Related Congressional Transcripts (Part 16) (7/2/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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where he left off with the Bill Gates transcript with
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Congress question by mister Spector. Now question, thank you, mister Gates.
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You already testified in the last hour you gave no
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financial payments. You had no financial arrangement or payments with
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Jeffrey Epstein. Is that right answer? That is right question.
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Just want to clarify a little bit using a document,
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so I'll enter as majority Exhibit five A contract from
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the Epstein owned entity, Southern Trust Company, Incorporated, dated May
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twenty eighth, twenty thirteen. This is from the DJ's release.
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It's mark with Bates number e FTA zero one one
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one one nine to six y one. I'll give you
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a moment to look at it. It seems to be
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a contract of some kind for consulting services. Answer between
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who and who question. If you direct your attention to
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the second block of texts, the second or third line
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up from the bottom, It says Bill Gates and affiliated trusts, partnerships,
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limited partnerships, and limited liability companies of and any other
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entities affiliated with mister Gates. And then it says collectively
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clients because the list of collection of clients. Do you
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have any knowledge about whether you were a client of
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any of those Southern Trust Company? Answer? I was not.
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Question have you ever heard of the Southern Trust Company? Answer?
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I believe this document was shown to me as part
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of the Epstein files as one of the documents that
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my name came up in a dishonest and misleading way. Question,
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So that's your characterization, is that this is a dishonest
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and misleading you know, mentioned of you as a client. Answer.
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That might be a little strong because it doesn't actually
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say I was a client, but it suggests that I
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might be one of the clients. And I was never
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a client in any way of mister Epstein or any
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of his entities, including this thing that I don't know
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much about called Southern Trust Company. Question. Thank you, mister Moran,
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asking questions again? Sorry, just for my record. That was
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Mark five, mister Grant. Answer is yes, sir, now Emmer's
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back and prior to reviewing this document, had you ever
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come to learn during the course of knowing mister Epstein
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that he was representing himself to you as a client. Gates,
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I didn't know that he would represent that and it
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would have been a falsehood. Emmer, thank you, mister Grant.
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Asking questions again, mister Gates, it seems, through the course
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of reviewing the documents and as part of this interview
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with you here today, that there were more than a
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few people either associated with yourself and some of your
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ventures or Microsoft generally, that had a relationship with mister
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Epstein at the time. Were you aware of all these
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associates of yours having relationships with some kind with mister Epstein. Answer, well,
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I'll mention the three and then you can tell me
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if there's more than that. I thought mister Nickolitch had
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a very limited relationship with mister Epstein in terms of
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facility heading meetings that I had with him. You know,
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the email show a more extensive relationship. I thought that
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doctor Walker knew Epstein. He mentioned her to me one
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time in our first dinner meeting, and then she sent
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me an email asking about the meeting. Subsequently, I don't
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think we communicated about Epstein, although apparently there's some possibility
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of an August twenty fourteen email and that maybe that's
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an exception. I'll have to track that down. So the
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extent of her relationship with mister Epstein, I don't know.
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I think another name that came up with Steven Sinofsky,
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and I did not know of him having any relationship
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with mister Epstein. Question and what about mister Mirvold? I
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know he was brought up at some point an earlier
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hour here today. Question No, I never discussed mister Epstein
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with mister Miervold. Question and you had no awareness of
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them having any type of relationship at all at the time? Answer?
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I know when Epstein files came out, there was some
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things related to mister Mehervold having some relationship with mister Epstein.
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Well before that, I had a vague awareness of some
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of the connection and I don't know where that came from,
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but we never discussed it. Question and what about mister
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Reid Hoffman were you aware of him having a relationship
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with mister Epstein. Answer? I did know that through some
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MIT connection, but I'm not sure that mister Hoffman had
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met mister Epstein. But I was never other than Actually,
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there is a December breakfast, the final meeting with Epstein,
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where I'm presenting a group of people about philanthropy and
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global health mister Hoffman attended that and so did mister Epstein.
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So that's one case where mister Hoffman and mister Epstein
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and I were all together in the same place. Question
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and did you ever discuss mister Epstein with mister Hoffman
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other than this one meeting you just mentioned. Answer? It
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might have come up. You know that I talked to
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mister Hoffman about a lot of things, but the fact
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that he was kind of an unknown but a person
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with a bad reputation that may have come up in
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my conversation with mister Hoffman. Question and mister I'll call
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it a relationship with mister Epstein. Is that due to
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his own accord or is that because of his close
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proximity to you? Answer? I wouldn't call it a relationship.
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I mean, on my behalf of you was involved, particularly
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in the doctor Nikolic exit discussions, but I wouldn't call
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that a relationship. Question fair enough, And did mister Epstein
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ever ask you to hire someone to either Microsoft or
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any of your other ventures? Answer never. Question are you
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aware of anyone at Microsoft or any of your other
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ventures giving any type of inside investment information? Answer no.
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Question did mister Epstein ever ask you for any type
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of inside investment information to your companies or adventures. Answer
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no question. Did you ever discuss any stocks or trades
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or anything related to financial markets with mister Epstein? Answer no, Well,
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let me amend that. I mean the general idea of
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where markets going up or going down that came up
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in some discussions, but not any specific company that was
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going to happen with its stock questions, So mister Epstein
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wouldn't have a conversation with you then about a particular company,
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say Tesla, and say you should short this stock or
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buy this stock? Answer no, spector just one quick question
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for the last couple of sections here, did any law
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enforcement entity of any kind ever approach you or ask
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for information about Epstein or Glenn Maxwell? Answer yeah, I
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think my lawyers can probably do a better job on
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this than I can. But I think the US Virgin
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Islands conducted a voluntary interview with me, Miss Claire. Yeah,
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if I could just clarify, the Attorney General of the
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US Virgin Islands made an informal request to mister Gates
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to cooperate with its investigation, very much like he did here.
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Mister Gates cooperated voluntarily. We turned over some documents to
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the Attorney General, and mister Gates sat for a voluntary
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proffer with the representatives of the US Virgin Islands. Spector
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what sort of documents to the Virgin Islands, request Claire,
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they from recollection. They related mostly to financial documents. It
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was in connection with, you know, tax questions primarily, and
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they're related to JP Morgan Chase and some banking issues.
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So it was primarily focused on that, mister Grant. And
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just so the record's clear, no one from the Southern
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District of New York ever reached out to you during
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Epstein's troubles when he was arrested subsequently in twenty nineteen.
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Answer no question, And the same question for miss Maxwell
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during her arrest of twenty twenty one. Answer no question,
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Thank you, Specter asking questions again, mister Gates. We do
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sort of a format in some of our interviews. I'm
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going to read you a long list of names. The
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question is the same for each person. Answer okay, question,
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It's simply have you ever communicated with that person regarding
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Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell? And there may be some repetition.
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I'll try to cut out the ones that we've already
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talked about for the most part, so for the first one.
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Richard Kahn answer no, never communicated with him. Question. Darren
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Endyke answered no question. Leslie Groff answer, I don't believe so.
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I mean she might have been on some of the
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email chain, but I don't think I communicated with her.
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Question Sarah Kellen answer again, she might have been on
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the chain, but I never communicated with her. Or I
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don't know. Maybe she's one of the women I wasn't
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introduced to in the photos. I'm not sure. Question. When
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you say that miss Groff and miss Kellen may have
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been on the email chain, do you mean an email
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chain along with mister Epstein. Answer yes. Question next person
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Doug Band answer no question. Larry Summers answer yes, as
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I've discussed doctor Summers came to a dinner, which is
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the second time I met Epstein and other than that,
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no question. Have you ever discussed Jeffrey Epstein's crimes allegations
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against Jeffrey Epstein with Larry Summers answer no question. Noam
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Chomsky answer no, I never met Noam Chomsky. I know
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has worked very well. I think he's fairly old now,
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but I never met him or talk to him. Question redacted.
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I don't recognize that name, so no question. Alan Dershowitz
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answer no question. George Mitchell answer no question. Andrew Mountbatten
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Winsor formerly Prince Andrew. Answer yeah, I never nothing connected
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to Epstein. I encountered him two times and official visits
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in the UK where he was serving as something like
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the trade representative. Question but never about Epstein? Answer never
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about Epstein? Question okay. Answer Weirdly, in the set of
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photos that I guess Epstein kept, there's a photo of
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me and Prince Andrew at one of those official state meetings,
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but nothing in connection with Epstein, even though Epstein seemed
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to have that picture and it shows up in the
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Epstein files. Question that's right. Do you recall if Jeffrey
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Epstein was also in attendance at that state dinner? Answer never,
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question he definitely wasn't in attendance there. Answer no, I
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never saw him in the UK and those were both
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meetings in the UK. Question thank you, Peter Mandelsson answer
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no question. Corinia Shuliac answer I don't know. Is that
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one of his assistants. Question she's reported to have dated
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mister Epstein. Just if you recall having a conversation with
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these people about Jeffrey Epstein or Ghlaine Maxwell answer. The
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only time I recall a meeting was earlier today. Someone
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sitting on that side of the table said that a
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person that I couldn't identify in a photo had that name. Question,
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but you don't recall any specifics of any conversation with
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her if you had one? Answer no, apparently though I
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was photographed with her. I think somebody represented that here today.
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Question thank you. Edwud Brock answer no question. Paul Morris
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answer yeah, I don't recognize that name. Question. Sultan Ahmed
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Binsuliam answer no question. Leslie Wexner answer no question. Harvey
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Weinstein answer no question. Any member of the Rothschild family
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answer no. It's a lot of people, but still no question.
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There are several names I can read if you would
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like answer no, no, please question. Casey Wasserman answer no question.
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Stacy Plaskett answer, I don't know who that is. Question.
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Howard Lutnik answer no, Steve Bannon answer no. Elon Musk
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answer no. Abigail Johnson answer no, Jeff Bezos answer no,
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Larry Page answer nope. Sergey Brinn answer no question. President
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Bill Clinton answer no, Secretary Hillary Clinton, no question. I
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don't think I said other than the one meeting where
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Ted Waite was Glenn Maxwell, have you ever discussed Jeffrey
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Epstein or Glenn Maxwell with Ted Waite? Answer no, mister Gates,
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just a couple of final questions for you, so your relationship.
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Can you remind us for the record when your relationship
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with mister Epstein, formally, when you cut off ties with
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mister Epstein other than his couple of reachouts. Answer after
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the December meeting in twenty fourteen. Question, and during the
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last hour you discussed a little bit about the final
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few meetings or discussions with regard to the donor advised
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funds with mister Epstein that was in twenty fourteen. Is
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that right answer? That's right question? And I'm just trying
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to understand after the summer of twenty thirteen and all
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of the various emails we discussed again acknowledging some of
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them you didn't know about at the time. But regardless
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the interactions you had with mister Epstein where he was
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making veiled threats about personal issues, including your affairs, why
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did you continue to engage with mister Epstein about philanthropy
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going into twenty fourteen. Answer, well, you know, the Doctor
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Nikolch exit, you know, ended up exactly as it started,
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with something that I felt was fair, and Doctor Nikolich
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ended up deciding was fair. And so that was kind
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of a weird thing, and I admit it should have
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added to the many negative things about mister Epstein. And
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then in the fall, I have the dinner where my
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ex took her already somewhat negative view with mister Epstein
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and felt that she had met him in person that
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one time she had an even more negative view of him.
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You know, there was a lot of things saying that,
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you know, the risk of even in this very limited role,
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which was referring me to people not being paid, not
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playing any role, that I should have had better judge
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to cut it off. And I would say that I
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was a bit stubborn in thinking, hey, was this completely
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a dead end? And so I continued through twenty fourteen
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to try to get meetings with actual donors, and then
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in September I got that then there's one more breakfast
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where I presented philanthropic opportunities, and only then did I
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completely abandon any connection with him. Question and did you
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formally tell him at this point that you didn't wish
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to see or speak to him anymore? Answer? I think
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my final email to him says, hey, the raising money
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isn't going to work. And so, because that was clearly
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the thing I had focused time on, that was clearly
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the end of the relationship. He continued to email me,
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and so through Larry Cohen, not in an email, because
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I sent the final one email and that was it,
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But mister Cohen made it clear to mister Apstein that
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I had severed the relationship completely and that I wouldn't
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be seeing me or hearing from me. Question and one
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final question for you. When we were discussing earlier about
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the two initial extramarital affairs and then we talked about
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a third one, one of the reasons you gave for
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those being the only ones that are relevant to the
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committee's inquiry was being because mister Epstein had anything else
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bad to say about you, any other damaging information about you,
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than he would have written it elsewhere in the emails.
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Is that a fair characterization of what you said? Answer? Yeah,
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he managed to put it in some true embarrassing things,
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specifically the affairs, and then he managed to put in
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a lot of false things, and so I think if
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he had known anything negative about me, it would have
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shown up in those But that's all speculation based on
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what I've seen in January of this year. You know,
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the foolishness of my spending time with him is about
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one hundred times higher after I seen the January emails. Question. Okay,
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thank you, Chairman Comer, mister Gates on behalf of the
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Oversight Committee and the entire Congress, I want to thank
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you for coming in today voluntarily, thank you for answering
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our questions. And I have to conclude by thanking you
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for your philanthropy and all the great charitable work that
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you've done and will hopefully continue to do. So. Thank you, Gates.
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Know that will be the focus of the rest of
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my life. And I don't know if anything I did
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today is helpful in your request, but I hope you
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can find justice for the victims. Chairman Comer, thank you, Specter,
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thank you, sir. We can go off the record, all right, folks.
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There it is the transcript from Bill Gates and his
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interview with Congress. The next one we're going to move
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into is Leslie Groff. All the information that goes with
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