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CIA Officer Exposes "Venezuela Code" Inside US Voting Machines · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: They call it a conspiracy theory. They said it is impossible.
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Speaker 1: But today I sit down with the former CIA officer
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Speaker 1: turned whistleblower who says specific Venezuelan code is still inside
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Speaker 1: US voting machines right now. Gary Bernson names the code,
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Speaker 1: reveals the trap, and explains why it has not been
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Speaker 1: removed yet. You can't miss this.
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Speaker 2: Our election systems are completely have been penetrated since almost
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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. Venezuelan software, soft source code and
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Speaker 2: software and hardware from China was installed in these things,
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Speaker 2: and the American electoral system as electoral systems in seventy
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Speaker 2: countries around the world have been penetrated and elections have
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Speaker 2: been changed for political reasons and for money for almost
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Speaker 2: sixteen years.
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Speaker 3: It is well horrified.
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Speaker 4: Well let me ask you this. Why do it?
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Speaker 1: You're a career CIA guy, Your guy speaks multiple languages.
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Speaker 1: You've done operations that would blow people's minds investigator for
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Speaker 1: a long time. I'm guessing the pension is really good.
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Speaker 1: Why get involved in this? What triggered you to say?
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Speaker 1: Hold on, there's something going on here that people need
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Speaker 1: to know about. Because you you blew the whistle, which
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Speaker 1: changes things for you although whistleblowers are supposed to be protected,
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Speaker 1: you guys really aren't that protected. Why did you do that?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, I began working with a man by
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Speaker 2: the name of Martin ro Deal and Martin had been
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Speaker 2: an investigator slashed consultant with the Drug Enforcement Agency. Okay,
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Speaker 2: so here I have a CIA background. I'm the guy
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Speaker 2: that led the invasion of Afghanistan in two thousand and one.
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Speaker 2: Martin Rodel who's like the greatest expert on Venezuela, we
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Speaker 2: joined forces together to do whistle blowing against the Cartel
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Speaker 2: del Sol's money laundering. The Cartel del Soul was is
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Speaker 2: the government of Venezuela was led by Maduro first Chavez,
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Speaker 2: then Maduro Delse Rodriguez. Jorge Rodriguez Diestato Cabello is about
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Speaker 2: eight big lead of this organization and they have stolen
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Speaker 2: and had laundered almost two point seven trillion dollars in
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Speaker 2: the last twenty five years in.
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Speaker 3: Oil, gold, drugs.
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Speaker 2: It's the largest transnational criminal organization in history. And we
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Speaker 2: were collecting information, filing it with the Department of Justice
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Speaker 2: and with the Department of Treasury and targeting them because
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Speaker 2: as a whistlegoer, you get paid on the bank fines, okay.
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Speaker 2: And as we were doing this, we stumbled into election fraud,
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Speaker 2: and we learned that individuals a company called smart Matic
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Speaker 2: kept coming up again and again and again, and the
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Speaker 2: people who were the financiers for the drug trafficking were
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Speaker 2: tied to people in the electoral market, you know. And
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Speaker 2: so when twenty twenty occurred, I turned to my partner
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Speaker 2: and said to martinro Deal and said, Martinez doesn't look right.
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Speaker 3: This some real serious problems.
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Speaker 2: And then he explained to me that he had been
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Speaker 2: involved in investigation six years earlier against Smartmatic, and he
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Speaker 2: showed me the data.
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Speaker 3: And then we.
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Speaker 2: Had access to a couple of individuals sources, and early
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Speaker 2: on they were able to explain to us how Smartmatic
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Speaker 2: was created. Three Venezuelan and American engineers were brought down
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Speaker 2: there to assist Hugo Chavez in a recall election in
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Speaker 2: two thousand and four, how they designed the source code
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Speaker 2: which is the heart of the system. How they then
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Speaker 2: flew off to Italy and purchased thousands of Olivetti lottery
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Speaker 2: machines and transferred transitioned them into being election machines and
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Speaker 2: how they sold the first elections in Venezuela. And when
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Speaker 2: they did that, the Carter Center was down there certifying
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Speaker 2: that this was the greatest election, the most secure election
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Speaker 2: in history. So almost immediately you had Westerners validating this
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Speaker 2: Obama nation. And so once Hugo Chavez steals that first
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Speaker 2: election in Venezuela, he invests more money in the group
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Speaker 2: and then starts stealing elections all around Latin America and
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Speaker 2: very quickly transitions Smartmatic into the United States for two elections,
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Speaker 2: one in Cook County, Illinois, no surprise about that, right,
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Speaker 2: and then the other one is the Democratic Party primary
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Speaker 2: in New Jersey, and a Democratic congresswoman named Carolyn Maloney,
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Speaker 2: a liberal, understood that there.
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Speaker 3: Was something wrong there.
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Speaker 2: She learned it, and she had an insider because that
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Speaker 2: person that went to her and explained that there was
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Speaker 2: a problem came out early on with a key technology
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Speaker 2: called hat Haat, And from there we start to we
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Speaker 2: started recruiting more and more sources. We recruited over a
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Speaker 2: dozen sources that worked for Smartmatic and the con National
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Speaker 2: Electoral in Venezuela. Those bodies worked together and they had
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Speaker 2: two missions, one stealing elections. The second defeating audit. You're
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Speaker 2: going to steal an election, You've got to be able
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Speaker 2: to defeat audit when they come to audit it right.
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Speaker 2: And it's the science of this. And mister Ralph Bazzulo,
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Speaker 2: who I had written Jawbreaker, with which was a New
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Speaker 2: York Times bestseller twenty five years ago. Twenty years ago,
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Speaker 2: we briefed him and he started to work with us,
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Speaker 2: and he wrote a book called Stolen Elections about our
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Speaker 2: story and the story of the whistleblowers, the sources that
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Speaker 2: had worked for the CNE. Look, this is one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent bet my life on it.
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Speaker 3: I have. Look.
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Speaker 2: I was in charge of the invasion of Afghanistan. I Seizekabble.
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Speaker 3: I was in charge of Tora Bora.
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Speaker 2: I was in charge of the Kobar Tower investigations, the
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Speaker 2: bombings in Saudi Arabia. I was in charge of the
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Speaker 2: East Africa bom The US government gave me responsibility to
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Speaker 2: do some of the largest most important investigations of violent
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Speaker 2: terrorism in the past twenty five thirty years. And so
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you from that history. I'm telling you the truth,
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Speaker 2: and I've been telling everyone the truth about this. And
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Speaker 2: we methodically raised money, penetrated these organizations and have been
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Speaker 2: able to bring the information forward in mister Puzzulo's book
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Speaker 2: Stolen Elections, and have worked with others. Look, there's a
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Speaker 2: gentleman by the name of Patrick Byrne that was critical
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Speaker 2: and financing this, and he was dedicated to this.
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Speaker 3: He's wonderful helping this.
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Speaker 2: Mike Flynn, General Mike Flynn is an early believer in
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Speaker 2: us and all of us have worked together. Martin and
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Speaker 2: I were primarily working together because we were whistleblowers, but
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Speaker 2: then in addition to doing the asset recovery and then
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Speaker 2: doing the stolen elections, which we have covered from A
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Speaker 2: through Z and this is you know, Bolt, Smart medic
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Speaker 2: and Dominion. Then we stumble into Train del Aragua. Other
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Speaker 2: sources that we had tell us, you know, they've taken
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Speaker 2: these gang members that we're working on a project from
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Speaker 2: to build a train from Caracas.
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Speaker 3: To a place called Aragua and Venezuela.
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Speaker 2: The business went bankrupt, so the two thousand union members
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Speaker 2: became a criminal enterprise, doing kidnappings, extortion, murder, drugs. A
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Speaker 2: lot of them wind up in a prison. There's an
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Speaker 2: assault on the prison. Seventeen of them are killed, but
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Speaker 2: the President Venezuela learns that, hey, this is a really
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Speaker 2: organized gang. He puts a phone into the prison, starts
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Speaker 2: coordinating with them, and ultimately they would take three hundred
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Speaker 2: of those prisoners out of that prison. The Venezuelan intelligence Service,
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Speaker 2: the Belarussian Intelligence Service, and the Cubans would give these
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Speaker 2: guys paramilitary training six weeks of it. Crypto had to
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Speaker 2: do fires, how to do weapons, how to do all
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Speaker 2: sorts of covert organization. They put the three hundred of
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Speaker 2: them in the United States and they opened up twenty offices.
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Speaker 2: And then when the Biden administration opened up the floodgates,
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Speaker 2: five thousand people poured into the United States who were
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Speaker 2: Venezwund gang members from trained lad Agua and fell in
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Speaker 2: under those twenty offices. We went to the Biden administration
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Speaker 2: on this. Look when you go back to the election stuff,
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Speaker 2: and we went to the Biden administration on that too.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll hold on, let me stop you.
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Speaker 1: The Biden administration I could do anything about it because
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Speaker 1: he allegedly got eighty something million votes.
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Speaker 4: So that's how obvious the.
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Speaker 3: Biden administration was going to pursue.
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Speaker 2: We went and met someone an FBI officer during the
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Speaker 2: Bide administration in Washington, DC in a law firm, and
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Speaker 2: that FBI officer, after seeing our three hour briefing, said,
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Speaker 2: mister Bernston, I recommend you and your business partner flee
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Speaker 2: the city because when my supervisors find out what you're doing,
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Speaker 2: they're going to destroy your investigation.
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Speaker 3: They're going to find ways to prosecute you.
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Speaker 2: They'll plan things on your compute, They'll do anything to
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Speaker 2: destroy you. I would have to leave the United States
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Speaker 2: for a year and live in Switzerland as we were
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Speaker 2: continuing the investigation. No here, I am someone that served
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Speaker 2: in the Armed forces in the United States and the
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Speaker 2: Air Force served you know, four years, you know, twenty
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Speaker 2: four years in the sea, twenty.
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Speaker 3: Eight years total service to the government.
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Speaker 2: I have to flee the United States to participate in
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Speaker 2: an investigation that is targeted at our destruction.
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Speaker 1: It's Gary Burd said Gary, let me stop you for
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Speaker 1: a second. It's a former CIA senior operations officer. The
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Speaker 1: guy who along with Martin what's his last name or
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Speaker 1: a Till Rodeal Rodeal. He and Martin Rodeal did the investigator.
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Speaker 1: They did the whistle blowing, They did the investigation that
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Speaker 1: was now Exposed and Stolen Elections, the book by Ralph Pizzulo.
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Speaker 1: I got to take you back to someone what you said.
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Speaker 1: There's so much there, but my brain's going on, you know,
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Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour. I'm sorry, no, no, don't
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Speaker 1: be sorry. That was an incredible information. Does Hugo Chavez
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Speaker 1: lose that election if they don't steal it? I mean,
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Speaker 1: was he going to lose?
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Speaker 2: They flipped twenty percent? You know, he would have lost
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Speaker 2: six peauty, but one at sixty forty.
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Speaker 1: And is it true that Durea, the Madurea really lost
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Speaker 1: seventy thirty that they didn't pint An investigation finds that
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Speaker 1: the the the guy who could, who took him on
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Speaker 1: the opposition was absolutely gonna win and then loses by
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Speaker 1: a lot. So was that going They've just been stealing
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Speaker 1: them all along the whole sixteen years.
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Speaker 3: And they've been stealing them globally.
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Speaker 2: Look, and what's even worse is this people in the
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Speaker 2: United States government knew this.
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Speaker 4: Well, why do they let the machines in because they
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Speaker 4: want they wanted to control it.
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Speaker 2: Look, people in the intelligence community in the ICA, people
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Speaker 2: in usaid the State Department knew what this was we're
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Speaker 2: using it. Look, there was an organization called SEPTS.
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Speaker 3: Okay, it's a.
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Speaker 2: Non governmental organization. Yeah, in Arlington, Virginia. It got over
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Speaker 2: six point nine billion dollars from USAID to fund smartmatic
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Speaker 2: selections in doess of countries. There were seventy countries around
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Speaker 2: the world, but the funding went into thirty of them,
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Speaker 2: and they flipped countries and turned them all left. And
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Speaker 2: so there was a massive effort to undermine constitutional governance
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Speaker 2: in the United States and to.
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Speaker 3: Move the world left politically.
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Speaker 1: And if you move it left, and you move it left,
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Speaker 1: if you miss it. If you move it left politically,
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Speaker 1: then the globalists can control it. The WEF can control it.
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Speaker 1: The thing stopping them from taking over the globe is
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Speaker 1: US and our constitution. It's Gary Burton, Gary, Where can
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Speaker 1: people follow you?
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Speaker 4: Or your ex? Where are you?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 3: I just do interviews once in a while. I'm not
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Speaker 3: on social MEDIATUI.
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Speaker 2: Everybody to read the book Yes, Stolen Elections by Ralph Pazzoulo.
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Speaker 3: I did a video before the election.
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four where I came out and did
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Speaker 2: a sixteen minute video that said.
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Speaker 3: Hey, this is a terrible problem.
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Speaker 2: Both smartmatic and Dominion Or have have software created by
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Speaker 2: the Venezuelan government and and hardware that is Chinese.
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Speaker 3: Look, in addition to.
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Speaker 2: The source code being in Venezuela, the hardware is manufactured sixty.
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Speaker 3: Miles outside of Beijing.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, so you got source code and software
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Speaker 2: from Venezuela, hardware and China.
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Speaker 3: What could possibly go wrong?
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Speaker 4: Let me ask you.
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a couple of questions about
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Speaker 1: the investigation. And again you've got me go to million
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Speaker 1: miles an hour, which is great. I absolutely love it,
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Speaker 1: and I think that people watching listening to learn a
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Speaker 1: lot from this. We were told by people who ran
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Speaker 1: the Dominion or Smartmatic machines that they were not connectable
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Speaker 1: to any sort of a local area network or even
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Speaker 1: a WAN. They couldn't get on the Internet, which, of
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Speaker 1: course later we found out that they could even their
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Speaker 1: own training videos. So you can, all right, So, well,
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Speaker 1: it's a simple question that because I know technology pretty well,
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Speaker 1: I've built my own studio the whole thing to build computers.
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Speaker 1: Having said that, it would be very easy to tell
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Speaker 1: if something can or cannot connect to the Internet. Why
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Speaker 1: did we not investigate? They said, it doesn't We just
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Speaker 1: believed it.
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Speaker 2: They had people inside of SISA, the cyber Infrastructure security agents.
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Speaker 1: I hate the organization, by the way.
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Speaker 2: When when when individuals complained about the potential corruption, they
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Speaker 2: would call Smartmatic and Dominion on the phone and coordinate
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Speaker 2: their responses with the criminals. And and so individuals in
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Speaker 2: CESA understood what was happening, and.
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Speaker 3: We're aiding them.
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Speaker 2: This is we're going to learn that many people in
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Speaker 2: the United States were aiding these people, and we're participating
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Speaker 2: with these people. You don't need a lot of them
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Speaker 2: once you've got the technology down and you deploy the infrastructure.
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Speaker 2: But let me step back for one thing. Please, smart
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Speaker 2: Matic did the world. Dominion got all the contracts in
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Speaker 2: the United States. They split the world up. These guys, Okay,
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Speaker 2: they had an agreement between them. Dominion controlled the swing
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Speaker 2: states in the United States, and Dominion opened up a
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Speaker 2: research office in Belgrade, Serbia. And in Belgrade, Serbia, there
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Speaker 2: were ninety eight individuals that were system administrators that were Serbians,
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Speaker 2: Venezuelans and Chinese, controlling the swing states and controlling key
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Speaker 2: elections and deciding who would win.
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Speaker 1: That had to be because we left them. There's no
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Speaker 1: way anybody who loves America would allow for those three
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Speaker 1: entities to be involved in our elections whatsoever. So you're
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Speaker 1: saying this was absolutely an inside job or those machines
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Speaker 1: don't get there.
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Speaker 2: A combination of them. But look, they they weren't ready
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Speaker 2: for Trump and sixteen that was a shocker for them.
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Speaker 2: They thought that he was a joke and they didn't
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Speaker 2: realize the incredible political force that he would be. In
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, they probably stole at least fifteen million votes
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Speaker 2: across the country at least to put Biden office. In
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. They were blocked. We were aware of
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Speaker 2: what they were doing. A small group of very brave
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Speaker 2: American technicians interrupted the Serbian operation, blocked them, and Trump
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Speaker 2: was able to win. Others have gone on the internet
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Speaker 2: and said, oh, cyber commanded this, and then that's wrong.
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Speaker 2: It was a very small team of Americans who were patriots, good,
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Speaker 2: that were very skilled that stopped them from stealing twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four. Had they stolen the election in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 2: they would and put taking control of the Senate. They
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Speaker 2: would have instituted the Whiten Plan, which was like twenty
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Speaker 2: four people in the Submarine Court they were going to
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Speaker 2: add thirty more people to that make multiple things, and
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Speaker 2: they would have altered our constitutional republic. This is this
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Speaker 2: was very dangerous. We came very close to losing the country.
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Speaker 1: It's Gary Bertson. Get this book, It's called Tonal Elections.
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Speaker 1: But I had Ralphon. I asked him something that you
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Speaker 1: just already alluded to. How did Trump win in twenty four?
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Speaker 1: You just told us how he won in twenty four?
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Speaker 1: But let me ask this, why does Fox pay seven
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven million dollars to Dominion if dominion?
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Speaker 1: We have proof through your investigation that Dominion did things
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Speaker 1: that it shouldn't have been doing. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: is it true that Dominion doesn't even exist anymore? Is
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Speaker 1: that really right?
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Speaker 3: Good questions? First off, we briefed Fox's lawyers. We show them.
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Speaker 4: Everything they had, the information they knew.
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Speaker 2: We briefed Fox's lawyers Wow two. And then they got
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Speaker 2: on their knees for the cartel and they knew they
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Speaker 2: were innocent. And so my question is to not as
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Speaker 2: to the board a Fox and to pull Ryan former
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Speaker 2: Speaker of.
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Speaker 4: The House, who's on the board right, how did you.
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Speaker 2: Get on your knees why did you collude and allow
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Speaker 2: the cartel to do this? Was it your hate Forred
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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump? Or was there some other reason for this?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: But I would ask former Speaker of the House who's
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Speaker 2: on the board, and he knew I and my partner
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Speaker 2: had that information, and he refused to allow our information
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Speaker 2: to be used in their defense. And is what we've
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Speaker 2: been told. I wasn't witnessed the thing, but we've had
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Speaker 2: people tell us this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And so Fox paid seven hundred purportedly has paid seven
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixties seven point five million dollars. And once
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Speaker 2: they did that, it created a silence across the country
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Speaker 2: because of course Fox was.
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Speaker 3: Going to pay that. It must be true.
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Speaker 1: Every single network stopped talking about dominion. They were scared
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Speaker 1: to death. In fact, many networks put out a statement saying,
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Speaker 1: we have never questioned dominion in the dominion systems. So this,
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Speaker 1: if I'm get what you're laying down, is a ruse
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Speaker 1: to make people stop questioning it.
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Look, once we once I did my video before the
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Speaker 2: election and the team went after them, the guys in Serbia,
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Speaker 2: I assumed I would probably that the left might win
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Speaker 2: in the United States, and that I would spend much
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Speaker 2: of the rest of my life in prison and fighting
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Speaker 2: a leftist government in America. Fortunately that didn't happen, and
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Speaker 2: and fortunately we have a president Donald Trump who's fighting
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Speaker 2: back what they did yesterday in Georgia. Yeah, graving those
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Speaker 2: ballots beautiful.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that at length. I want
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Speaker 1: to talk about that because that was a major story
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Speaker 1: that just happened. It's Gary Bernson. Get this book called
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Speaker 1: Stolen Elections, Stolen Elections written by Roald Pezzula or yeah Pazzulo.
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Speaker 1: And also it's based on the research by this man
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Speaker 1: in Martin Rotteel So Martin Martin rodel Okay, let me,
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Speaker 1: let me, let me get into some question about dominion.
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Speaker 1: Why doesn't exist anymore? If you pay me seven hundred
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Speaker 1: and sixty seven million dollars, I'm a pretty healthy business.
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Speaker 1: Why is it gone? What happened?
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Speaker 2: So people are okay? So here's so people have to
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Speaker 2: understand with dominion. Smart Matock is created in Venezuela. They
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Speaker 2: come into the United States. First, they can't operate because
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Speaker 2: they won't say who they are.
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Speaker 3: They end up.
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Speaker 2: Buying a company called Sequoia Scythias uh Uh, an investigative
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Speaker 2: body goes after them, and they wound up selling it
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Speaker 2: the Dominion, which is the Canadian company in Toronto that
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Speaker 2: had only run one small election in Canada and area,
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Speaker 2: a local election.
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Speaker 3: And actually there that company was out.
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Speaker 2: Of a George Soros like startup incubator, business incubator. No
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Speaker 2: surprise there. And so John Paulus has been on television,
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Speaker 2: he's been on with Anderson Cooper on sixty Minutes. Lied
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Speaker 2: his ass off and didn't know anything about Venezuela. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's like, I'm a Mountie, I'm a wonderful guy. This
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Speaker 2: is I'm just Canadian, don't know anything about that, total liar,
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Speaker 2: and and and he employed a bunch of the Venezuelans,
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Speaker 2: key Venezuelans, who integrated the source code into their into
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Speaker 2: their their their machinery. And he's he's completely guilty. And
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Speaker 2: so he sold the company because once I went public
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Speaker 2: and everybody else came public, all the other people, you know,
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Speaker 2: the they realized they were caught. We we have their
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Speaker 2: source code. And so you know, the point here is
20:06
Speaker 2: is that you know, none of them sued me. They
20:09
Speaker 2: didn't sue Ralph, they didn't sue Martine. Everybody else has
20:12
Speaker 2: been sued, Rudy was sued, Sidney Powell was sued, Mike
20:16
Speaker 2: Lindell was sued.
20:17
Speaker 3: Nobody sued me, Martin or Ralph.
20:20
Speaker 1: You know why Discovery? Yes, right, that's obvious. Well, does
20:26
Speaker 1: the meania still exist or not? Did they sell it
20:28
Speaker 1: or did they get rid of it? Does it still exist?
20:30
Speaker 3: Another company called Liberty, But but the source code is
20:33
Speaker 3: still in there. Okay, there's a problem here.
20:36
Speaker 2: We have to get rid of all electronic voting. You know,
20:40
Speaker 2: you look, if if if India, if the country of
20:43
Speaker 2: India was one point five billion, people could do it
20:46
Speaker 2: on paper ballots.
20:47
Speaker 3: We can do it on paper ballots.
20:48
Speaker 1: We get Oh, we did it on paper ballots forever. Yeah,
20:49
Speaker 1: we didn't have to go to these machines at all.
20:51
Speaker 1: But but the trick, the trick was Gary. They convinced Americans
20:55
Speaker 1: that technology is always better. Technology is always better. It's
20:58
Speaker 1: full proof. It's not a human being that's suggesting anything.
21:01
Speaker 1: What you vote for is what you're going to get.
21:03
Speaker 1: I hope we're waking up.
21:04
Speaker 4: Now. Let me ask you this.
21:06
Speaker 1: How much was the Venezuelan capture of Madurona's wife? How
21:11
Speaker 1: much of that was about the twenty twenty election. Do
21:13
Speaker 1: you think that played a role a lot.
21:16
Speaker 2: Look, there's there's another piece to this. There's an individual
21:20
Speaker 2: by the name of Hugo Carba Hall, the chief of
21:23
Speaker 2: military counterintelligence. He's sitting in New York in a prison.
21:26
Speaker 2: He's written a letter to Donald Trump openly stating I
21:30
Speaker 2: was involved. I sent my people over there. Why your elections? Globally,
21:35
Speaker 2: there's another general in jail the United States named Cleever Alkala.
21:39
Speaker 2: He wrote a letter saying, yes, this other general and
21:43
Speaker 2: he names the guy was sent over there, you know,
21:46
Speaker 2: Carlos Cantero. Carlos Canto is the deputy you know, stole election.
21:50
Speaker 2: Is going to explains, well, these things have been put
21:52
Speaker 2: out and into the into the public eye, and the
21:56
Speaker 2: media refuses to cover it because if conservatives, then if
22:02
Speaker 2: Donald Trump say it, it's got to be a lie.
22:05
Speaker 2: And they this is all I oh, it's information operations.
22:09
Speaker 2: The news media, the major media are all liars.
22:14
Speaker 3: It's so terrible, right because I do appear in the
22:16
Speaker 3: media for years.
22:17
Speaker 4: Well, we agree, Gary, they are liars.
22:19
Speaker 1: But at the same time they can't possibly say Biden
22:22
Speaker 1: didn't really win, because then they've all that's it. Any
22:26
Speaker 1: credibility they had left is gone if they admit that
22:29
Speaker 1: something went wrong in twenty But soon they'll have to
22:31
Speaker 1: admit it, won't they. Let's talk about you go into
22:34
Speaker 1: Fulton County, Georgia, and you start collecting records. What might
22:37
Speaker 1: be found there if you're investigating it. What are you
22:40
Speaker 1: looking for?
22:41
Speaker 2: Well, first off, you're going to want to look at
22:43
Speaker 2: the You're going to want to see what vestiges you
22:46
Speaker 2: can still find of the source code.
22:48
Speaker 3: You're going to want to.
22:48
Speaker 2: Look in the DLL file. I mean, there's a lot
22:50
Speaker 2: of technical things that you want to look at. Look
22:53
Speaker 2: those machines. There are fourteen different technical ways to steal
22:58
Speaker 2: an election, and you can use number one and number five,
23:00
Speaker 2: number seven, number eight that they use the same techniques
23:04
Speaker 2: in counties that are adjacent. This is a science and
23:08
Speaker 2: they they they're stealing them on the scanners, they're stealing
23:11
Speaker 2: it it the tabulator. I mean, we have all the technology.
23:14
Speaker 2: And by the way, to the to the Democrats in
23:18
Speaker 2: the in Georgia who are whining and crying at the moment,
23:22
Speaker 2: let me explain to you we have some of the
23:25
Speaker 2: witnesses are here that are in America that built those machines,
23:29
Speaker 2: built the hardware, and they're testifying to the US government.
23:32
Speaker 2: They will show everybody how this works in about thirty seconds.
23:37
Speaker 4: Wow.
23:37
Speaker 2: Okay, the people that build those damn machines are here
23:40
Speaker 2: and their witnesses of the US government.
23:43
Speaker 3: So you people on the left, it's over. It's over.
23:47
Speaker 1: Well, it is over unless we're not careful about the midterms,
23:51
Speaker 1: because then they're just gonna they're gonna impeach doled Trump
23:53
Speaker 1: every day. If the House goes to the Democrats, all
23:55
Speaker 1: of this will go away again. And that's my problem.
23:58
Speaker 1: So we need to put this in like warp speed.
24:00
Speaker 1: Let people understand what happened to fast.
24:02
Speaker 2: I agree the challenge the president had was there were
24:06
Speaker 2: so many acts of illegality against him and against the
24:11
Speaker 2: country that has been difficult. Look, we went as soon
24:13
Speaker 2: as the president got elected, Martin ro Deal and I
24:16
Speaker 2: were at the D and I's office briefing them on
24:21
Speaker 2: the machines, and we briefed them four or five times,
24:24
Speaker 2: and the people were there, quite frankly, didn't comprehend what
24:27
Speaker 2: we would. They didn't have the right people in front
24:29
Speaker 2: of them. Finally, the President named a very senior guy
24:33
Speaker 2: to the White House who I don't want to say
24:35
Speaker 2: his name, but he is an expert in all of this,
24:39
Speaker 2: and he is driving a lot of this because he
24:41
Speaker 2: understands the technical aspects and the legal aspects, and so
24:45
Speaker 2: the president understands, his senior staff understand Look, we briefed
24:49
Speaker 2: the president's campaign a month before the election.
24:52
Speaker 3: We showed them the whole thing. They were horrified.
24:57
Speaker 1: So in Georgia we know three hundred and fifteen five
25:00
Speaker 1: ballots weren't certified. Right, they weren't signed at the beginning,
25:03
Speaker 1: they weren't certified at the end. We have the video
25:05
Speaker 1: of people pulling these ballots out from underneath tables, and
25:08
Speaker 1: then we have the machines in place that can steal
25:10
Speaker 1: some here, a little bit over there, maybe move some
25:12
Speaker 1: over there.
25:13
Speaker 4: Again.
25:14
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, when we walk away
25:15
Speaker 1: from this, will it be understandable for the average American
25:19
Speaker 1: exactly what went down ours.
25:21
Speaker 2: Some of our material will be put in the media. Look,
25:24
Speaker 2: they're able to enter. This was on a Microsoft system.
25:30
Speaker 2: They were able to enter through three different ways using
25:34
Speaker 2: a thing a tool called Eternal Blue, and the passwords
25:40
Speaker 2: the code numbers to get in were left in the
25:42
Speaker 2: open in three different places, so you could unlock that part,
25:46
Speaker 2: and then you had a separate program that you would
25:48
Speaker 2: insert that would then change the algorithm of how votes
25:52
Speaker 2: were counted, and then you could back out and cover
25:56
Speaker 2: your traces. And there was no evidence that you were
25:58
Speaker 2: ever there. The most dangerous thing was was that at
26:01
Speaker 2: the very end, and thank goodness we discovered this when
26:04
Speaker 2: we did is that And I'm not a computer engineer,
26:07
Speaker 2: but they created a system that had what we call
26:10
Speaker 2: a virtual machine, right, and they were able to use
26:13
Speaker 2: that component of the virtual machine to steal the election.
26:16
Speaker 2: And then when they unplug the virtual machine collapsed.
26:18
Speaker 1: In it said, it's temporary, a virtual machine. For those
26:20
Speaker 1: watching listening, I've got a Mac. I can put a
26:23
Speaker 1: Windows virtual machine in my mach I could put another
26:25
Speaker 1: Windows virtual machine in my Windows machine, and once I
26:28
Speaker 1: shut the virtual machine off, it's gone, like it never existed.
26:31
Speaker 2: And they not found them in this cycle, there might
26:36
Speaker 2: not have been an opportunity in the future. It would
26:37
Speaker 2: have been more difficult. But look, we did this with
26:40
Speaker 2: human human intelligence. Yes, finding individuals who were involved in
26:45
Speaker 2: the crime, recruiting them, convincing them to assist us in
26:48
Speaker 2: cooperating with us, recruiting other people. We had a dozen sources,
26:53
Speaker 2: and again I'll say his name, Patrick Burne, and the
26:55
Speaker 2: other person, Mike General, Mike Flint. Bless those two men.
26:59
Speaker 2: They put every thing on the line to come in
27:01
Speaker 2: with us. You know, Patrick spent tens of millions of
27:04
Speaker 2: his own money. We're bankrupt, we've bankrupted ourselves essentially, but
27:08
Speaker 2: that's okay.
27:09
Speaker 3: You know, we'll make the money back.
27:10
Speaker 4: Right.
27:11
Speaker 2: We used everything we could because we were not going
27:14
Speaker 2: to have our constitutional republic destroyed.
27:18
Speaker 1: I and I love that you're doing it. I love
27:19
Speaker 1: that you're speaking out about it. Gary Burns, and he's
27:21
Speaker 1: a whistleblower, former CIA senior operations officer. Let me ask
27:24
Speaker 1: you about Georgia a little bit more because the day
27:27
Speaker 1: before January sixth, and that took all the news cycle away.
27:31
Speaker 1: The day before was the runoff election for both Senate seats.
27:34
Speaker 1: Both Senate seats went to Democrats. Is there a chance
27:38
Speaker 1: that that went that way because of what you're talking about,
27:41
Speaker 1: because that's a red state and I was stunned to
27:43
Speaker 1: see the Democrats won both those seats, giving the Senate
27:46
Speaker 1: to Democrats.
27:47
Speaker 2: By the way, we actually have the the images court
27:54
Speaker 2: ordered you know, court images, court ordered images, and we're
27:59
Speaker 2: able to use the image just with our engineers to
28:03
Speaker 2: look how they stole an election for Senator as Off,
28:06
Speaker 2: how they put aus Off into office initially, And we
28:10
Speaker 2: could actually run the program in one county and watch
28:13
Speaker 2: how he got one set of votes with the first
28:16
Speaker 2: run through, and then when they put the program in
28:18
Speaker 2: it flipped the votes. How what the second one looked like.
28:21
Speaker 2: And we were able actually to show that to the
28:24
Speaker 2: Trump campaign before the twenty twenty four presidential election.
28:27
Speaker 3: We showed that to them.
28:28
Speaker 2: Good And I forgot the name of the senator that loss.
28:32
Speaker 2: He's actually the ambassador in Beijing right now, but I.
28:37
Speaker 4: Don't know. I forgot.
28:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he get to see how he lost, it's not.
28:43
Speaker 3: Great, but it was.
28:44
Speaker 2: But the Senator Osstoff won that election that way, and.
28:48
Speaker 1: Then Warnock won as well, which which seemed unlikely to
28:50
Speaker 1: me too.
28:51
Speaker 2: Look, here's the problem. That the governor of that state
28:55
Speaker 2: had been the secretary of state. He awarded dominion the
28:58
Speaker 2: entire state. I believe his I believe his chief of
29:00
Speaker 2: staff became the head of dominion for the state.
29:04
Speaker 1: Wait, let's look with a phone call that Trump made,
29:06
Speaker 1: because this is such a vital piece of information. Trump
29:10
Speaker 1: basically said, we know there are hundreds of thousands of
29:13
Speaker 1: votes that are in question. We just need to find
29:16
Speaker 1: eleven thousand and seven eighty because that's all I needed
29:18
Speaker 1: to beat Biden. And they took that to me, and
29:20
Speaker 1: he wanted them to electioneer and rigid and granted votes.
29:24
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, unfortunately, right, it was sloppy speech, It was improper warning.
29:30
Speaker 4: I agree with you, yeah.
29:32
Speaker 2: Terrible because they they look in some of these states
29:35
Speaker 2: when like you go to Pennsylvania, it was like they
29:37
Speaker 2: stole a million votes so that Biden could win by
29:39
Speaker 2: ten thousand.
29:40
Speaker 3: Or something like that.
29:41
Speaker 2: It's just like the lift was so heavy for them
29:44
Speaker 2: to get him across the finish line.
29:47
Speaker 1: And they but look, they indicted Trump. Gary, They indicted
29:50
Speaker 1: Trump over that. My god, I mean, how deep is this.
29:54
Speaker 1: Let's put the guy in prison.
29:55
Speaker 2: Look, everybody one day is going to look back on
29:58
Speaker 2: this period of time and say, Wow, they was stealing elections.
30:02
Speaker 3: It'll be just a.
30:03
Speaker 2: Fact wow, and they won't realize the great trouble we
30:07
Speaker 2: went to do. You know what, My partner I was
30:11
Speaker 2: out of the country in Switzerland watching the election. Patrick
30:14
Speaker 2: Byrne was you know, in Qatar, and Martin was in Norway,
30:18
Speaker 2: and when he landed, the Bureau was waiting for him
30:21
Speaker 2: to grab him at the airport.
30:23
Speaker 1: In Norway or back here.
30:25
Speaker 2: No, no, when he flew back into the United States
30:26
Speaker 2: after we were out of the country for the election,
30:29
Speaker 2: and so when he flew back and he landed, the
30:31
Speaker 2: Bureau had like put his name in. They had these
30:34
Speaker 2: CBP guys Customs and Border Patrol to grab him. But
30:38
Speaker 2: Martin had the phone number handy of a US prosecutor.
30:42
Speaker 2: There was one prosecutor in the country that was helpful
30:45
Speaker 2: and loyal and stood up for us. And that prosecutor
30:49
Speaker 2: got on the phone and chewed their asses and they
30:52
Speaker 2: let him through and they didn't take his phone or
30:53
Speaker 2: as technology. But they were ready to grab Martin on
30:56
Speaker 2: his return. They were looking for me too. So if
31:00
Speaker 2: I returned for another couple.
31:02
Speaker 1: Of months, well smart, I mean, look, you guys whistle blowing.
31:05
Speaker 1: It could could save the Republic, and I love that
31:07
Speaker 1: you did it. Go get the book called Stolen Elections
31:09
Speaker 1: by Ralph Azzulo. This is one of the investigators. It's
31:12
Speaker 1: Gary Bernson. Let's are all the swing states in play
31:15
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania. We just go
31:20
Speaker 1: down the list a whole are they were they all
31:22
Speaker 1: screwed with.
31:23
Speaker 2: Look and let me just say something. We're talking about
31:26
Speaker 2: smart matic and we're talking about dominion right now, the
31:29
Speaker 2: big things. Yes, these software is in I don't count
31:34
Speaker 2: any machine is safe. There are other companies out there
31:37
Speaker 2: and I don't I'm not going to take them on
31:39
Speaker 2: right now. Right but don't if if if a someone
31:44
Speaker 2: is selling this software, this this election electronic software, and
31:52
Speaker 2: these electronic election systems, they are all penetrated, they're all
31:58
Speaker 2: up for sale. It is a terrible thing in the
32:01
Speaker 2: United States has almost lost its democracy because of this.
32:05
Speaker 4: Wow.
32:05
Speaker 2: And remember they steal elections and they defeat audit, defeat audit,
32:12
Speaker 2: remember that phrase. I'll give an example. When you put
32:17
Speaker 2: a ballot like on a scanner, like an absentee ballot, right,
32:20
Speaker 2: a mail in ballot to take a picture, and then
32:23
Speaker 2: it takes a picture, and it takes a picture, and
32:24
Speaker 2: then it gets ready to save like fifty of them
32:27
Speaker 2: or one hundred of them at the.
32:28
Speaker 3: Same time, at that instant when it's going to.
32:30
Speaker 2: Take a picture of them, that fifty that are on
32:33
Speaker 2: that scanner electronically disappear. And a photo comes in from Belgrade,
32:37
Speaker 2: Serbia with all the votes that you want. Then boom,
32:40
Speaker 2: and then if you do an audit, you're not allowed
32:42
Speaker 2: to look at the votes in the box. You look
32:44
Speaker 2: at the screen.
32:45
Speaker 1: Wow, that's sick. I mean it's very very complex, but
32:48
Speaker 1: I mean it's actually sick that we can't trust our elections.
32:51
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about Arizona quickly. What was the
32:54
Speaker 1: story about the They deleted it illegally against election law.
32:57
Speaker 1: We just deleted the entire file, somehow restored it and
33:00
Speaker 1: recovered it. But they tried to get rid of the evidence.
33:03
Speaker 1: Does that mean that everybody there who was that just
33:06
Speaker 1: somebody being dumb? Or was then somebody who said I
33:09
Speaker 1: got to get rid of this.
33:10
Speaker 2: No, they get rid of it. They know they have
33:12
Speaker 2: to get rid of it. They know they're stealing elections.
33:14
Speaker 2: And the punishment for just for you know, destroying records
33:20
Speaker 2: is less than the punishment for getting caught stealing the election.
33:23
Speaker 4: Wow.
33:23
Speaker 3: They destroy the records.
33:24
Speaker 2: Every opportunity they get, they deproy the records. It's amazing
33:29
Speaker 2: they didn't destroy the records in twenty twenty.
33:32
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:32
Speaker 1: No, I'm stune by, I'm I'm stunned. By that, I'm
33:34
Speaker 1: sure some of it has been It's uh, Gary Burnson, Gary,
33:37
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you again soon. I want
33:38
Speaker 1: to finish with this because this is vitally important right now.
33:42
Speaker 1: The midterm is not far away. If that goes to
33:44
Speaker 1: the left, to the voresci of left, if it goes
33:46
Speaker 1: to the Marxists, if it goes to the wef if
33:48
Speaker 1: the House in Senate or one or the other goes
33:51
Speaker 1: to the left, we're in big trouble. Are these machines
33:53
Speaker 1: going to be used coming up in this November's election?
33:57
Speaker 2: I would hope that the President will be able to
34:00
Speaker 2: make a compelling argument to block the use of these
34:07
Speaker 2: things across the country.
34:08
Speaker 3: We can't use them.
34:09
Speaker 2: They are they well, and we have to just show
34:14
Speaker 2: every state has to see that it's full of Chinese
34:17
Speaker 2: software which is targeting us. Look, the software was not
34:22
Speaker 2: the hardware made in Beijing, sent over to Taiwan, white labeled,
34:26
Speaker 2: made in Taiwan, not then ship to America. That was
34:29
Speaker 2: a lie too, And I mean we know everything about everybody.
34:33
Speaker 2: We have their software. Now the President is moving forward Finally,
34:38
Speaker 2: this has been too slow, and I blame the intel community. Look,
34:43
Speaker 2: the Central Intelligence Agency my old former employer.
34:46
Speaker 3: They knew about this. They knew about this. There's some
34:50
Speaker 3: explaining that needs to go on.
34:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now times have the essence though, Gary, But
34:55
Speaker 1: we're running out of time before the midterms. That's my problem.
34:58
Speaker 1: And you're right, it's been like molasses. You've got a swamp.
35:00
Speaker 1: A swamp is gonna make it like molasses.
35:02
Speaker 4: I get that.
35:03
Speaker 1: So these machines might be in use. I know that
35:05
Speaker 1: you're not a lawyer. Can the president do an executive
35:08
Speaker 1: order saying no more machines? Do you need legislation to
35:11
Speaker 1: pass saying no more machines? How do you do that?
35:13
Speaker 1: Because generally speaking, you're going to be the general elections
35:15
Speaker 1: are run by state legislatures.
35:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're gonna need I think there's going
35:20
Speaker 2: to have to be some sort of of ruling on
35:25
Speaker 2: national security that these are are a threat, that this
35:29
Speaker 2: technology is a threat to the United States. Right, it's
35:32
Speaker 2: gonna have to be technology based that none of these
35:35
Speaker 2: election machines can be used because you know, first people
35:38
Speaker 2: said there's no Chinese technology. Now they're admitting this fifty
35:41
Speaker 2: nine percent? Are you kidding me? And I mean it's
35:44
Speaker 2: it's this whole thing is. It's it's the worst fraud
35:48
Speaker 2: ever conducted on the United States. It was the greatest
35:52
Speaker 2: threat to America since the Civil War.
35:55
Speaker 1: Who does it? The d and I, the NSA, the
35:58
Speaker 1: Intel communities you said could be in a caho. Who
36:00
Speaker 1: does it and gives that report to the American people
36:02
Speaker 1: say yeah, we better just fill out a paper ballot.
36:07
Speaker 2: That is going to be That's up to the That's
36:09
Speaker 2: going to be a question for the president, Okay, and
36:12
Speaker 2: the President's going to have to decide which a technical
36:17
Speaker 2: component of the government will.
36:19
Speaker 3: Lead that effort.
36:20
Speaker 2: But he has to block these machines, can't use them.
36:25
Speaker 2: He's got to find a legal way to deny entry
36:30
Speaker 2: of the machines into our lives because they have been
36:34
Speaker 2: used by the It's the Cubans, the Russians, and the
36:36
Speaker 2: Chinese and the Iranians all knew who was going to
36:39
Speaker 2: be elected president. In twenty twenty, when Donald Trump had
36:43
Speaker 2: the election stolen from him, the Iranian foreign minister was
36:45
Speaker 2: sitting in Caracas watching the election.
36:48
Speaker 3: With the girl.
36:50
Speaker 4: It is.
36:51
Speaker 1: It's Gary Burd's in former CIA senior operations officer. He's
36:54
Speaker 1: an author, he's a whistleblower, and he's a guy who's
36:57
Speaker 1: telling us the truth about what's happening with our elections.
37:00
Speaker 1: And I hope you'll go get this book called Stolen Elections, Gary,
37:02
Speaker 1: Let's do it again soon. Incredible information. I really loved
37:04
Speaker 1: having you on, really appreciate you. That's it for Unshaken
37:08
Speaker 1: and Unafraid with Joe Paggs this time. Another one to
37:10
Speaker 1: drop very soon. We'll see you then,