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Resolutions · United We Scan

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Now, here are the host of The United, We scan podcast.
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Welcome back to our midweek session, we had to get
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resolutions done and out of the way as their annual meetings are
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coming up. So we came in on a Wednesday
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night to get these done. We've got our usual selves here
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today, myself and Bill and Mike and Josh and James So we're
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going to start right off the bat with what is a resolution.
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For the purpose of inner LCA members a resolution is defined
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as a members, right to participate in the organization
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and have their individuals voices.
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Heard taking one, individual idea of a formal look formal
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expression of an opinion will or intent and having it voted on by
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an official body or assembled group that is basically what a
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resolution is. And who can submit a resolution
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being a member of the organization provides one of the
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most fundamental rights of a member, the right to voice their
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opinions in the Affairs of the organization by doing so.
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The member must realize the responsibility for the process
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and use it with the Integrity, with which it has been designed.
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When should a resolution be submitted after member has fully
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researched any applicable issues related to the opinion or idea
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that they have? And it depends on what kind of
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issue the resolution is intended to address.
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Where is the resolution? First submitted, a members ideas
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should be first presented at the lowest level of the organization
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local unit or state level references.
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How a bill becomes a law Why should a resolution be
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presented? This is the voice used in
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shaping the organization and its goals is a whole to bring light
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to an issue that will have a positive impact on the
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organization and then the important one.
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How do I submit a resolution? The appointed resolution
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committee. The process identified in each
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state, each state does have its own process and how resolutions
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are submitted whereas and be resolved, the two key, two kinds
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of resolutions are binding and A non-binding, the identified as
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the board has the sole authority to implement does not have to
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negotiate with another party in the issue will not harm.
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The organization is a whole, a non-binding defined as an idea
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that must be negotiated with another party.
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And therefore cannot guarantee the implementation the areas of
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which are resolution can reach our administrative.
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Contractual legislative process reminders, quality versus
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quantity and Tech clarified. Not in complaint process and not
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to be confused with the Constitution change process.
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What happens to a passed resolution at the local.
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Level it passed. It goes to the next level.
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And in state, if it's past goes to the next level, National the
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border of use, all the resolution issues prior to the
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next, negotiations and assesses, the possibility of its real
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outcome. The Only Exception is, if the
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resolution of an issue was intended to be implemented at
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the level at which it was passed.
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All right, resolutions. Number one, normally start your
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local level. I do know some states don't have
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district meetings or locals. Some of the smaller States.
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Therefore submitted at the state level.
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I do believe New Hampshire. I heard was one of those.
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And ideally, they're committed to an excuse me submitted and
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it's your annual local meetings voted upon their.
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What if approved, they didn't move up to your State Convention
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to be voted on by the delegation at State Convention. is it is a
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national resolution and it is past it then gets put in to go
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and be presented at the National Convention for voting and by
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that delegation You can do state resolutions as well.
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Normally a lot of those are constitutional for your state
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constitution. And they would stop obviously at
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the state level. If it is a state resolution
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easiest way to remind it is a binding would be a
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constitutional resolution is in that something that the party
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can implement the sole Authority and doesn't have to negotiate
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with USPS 9 bindings would be contractual as they would have
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to be negotiated with the USPS. James, you have more input.
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Yeah, you want to make sure that what you are working on is one
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or the other because when you submit it, then you're going to
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want. You're going to be evaluated on
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it first to see if it's a good resolution to put forth.
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If there's an accuracy that it like you put binding on
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something that's not a constitution then they'll fill
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you up. Throw it out in the committee
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that reviews your resolutions. The biggest thing about it is is
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you if you want something to change you want to look into
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what it is, you want to change first.
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See if there's wording in there that actually makes the change
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already available or not. Resolutions at a whole you have
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to remember, have to affect the craft in the hole.
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If it's something that pertains to your office, it's not going
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to be a resolution. If it's something, that's
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probably not going to get enough traction to go past your local
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or state. Exactly.
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You got to remember the craft, as a whole when looking at
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specially non-binding resolutions, I think if I have
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examples of, Nine by well, non-binding or pretty much
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anything that you want to see negotiated with and contracts
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binding, resolution constitutional wise, that could
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be anything from 0. We had exact got an example, go
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ahead. I got an example.
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So a binding resolution would be you want to have the secretary
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go? Part-time to full-time, like
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Michigan dibs. And a non-binding would be, you
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want to have a pizza party, every one Thursday, every month.
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For every every carrier, every office in the United States.
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Don't know how well, that one would go.
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But, yeah, well like, they like pizza parties better than
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raises. Yeah.
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Another one would be, for example, Oh James had that
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through, he was known for that. Three-page resolution.
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That made it all the way to Nationals last year from the
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state level. That everybody just didn't
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bother looking at because it was three pages long, but it was
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actually a management accountability program and
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unfortunately gained absolutely no traction whatsoever.
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It national the only reason why they didn't want to read it is
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because I've put in all the stipulations of how everything
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was to work in that instead of just putting a resolution that
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we need to Track management through the grievance process.
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Every grievance gets a point value to it and tracks
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management and that's what the whole resolution was about, but
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I wrote it Thinking I could create an entire resolution that
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fills a single roll. And unfortunately, when you're
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at a national level and you have thousands of resolutions pouring
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through the resolution committee, it's kind of hard to
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have them, go over, something like that and and pass it on
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with proper review I should say before everybody like the vote
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on it. Where you can have a binding
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resolution like mine, where we give the national sewer system
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back to this, to the states and that gets shot down at the state
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level real quick. Nobody wants to deal with you
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Bill, but it cannot, you know, really.
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I mean, the national sewer systems is its own political
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force inside our Union. I mean, you know you've got
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people out there twenty plus years.
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I haven't carried around, you've got people that are adrs because
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you know, they support the Pete, the dr's above them.
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Yeah, it's not about that. It's valid and what kind of job
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you do. We have we have an ADR in our
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area, she's full-time, and she gives the best training sessions
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in the world, but the Dr above her is.
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So entrenched up Nationals ass that you need a backhoe to pull
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him out. The politics have to go.
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Thank hurry. We all agree on that politics
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that has no place within our union.
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We need to work for each other. Not against each other.
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One craft one people, one voice? Yeah.
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Some of the common subjects covered by a constitution or
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which would be a binding. Resolution will be membership
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and dues State associations National officers Steward system
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in appeals. I'm your resolution form, it
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comes up with, you have to check the appropriate box, whether
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it's binding or non-binding. and then you have issues the issues
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that they have outer automation, benefits, EMA, grievance
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procedures, leave Replacements, male, count, relief day,
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retirement, salary time, standards vehicle work rules
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other hand Constitution, obviously, You're only gonna put
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one resolution on a rate per sheet.
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New language is supposed to be bold omitted language should be
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strikethrough. So you're looking at a well
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either both non-binding or binding, if you're looking to
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change the wording, you're going to strike through the original
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language. And then indicate if the
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resolution is attended to be binding and unbinding, indicate
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the issue of the resolution concerns, and then identify any
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handbooks manuals, or written documents to be amended and then
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you put in the name of the document.
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The article, the section in the paragraph explanatory paragraph
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should be headed as follows. If the space below is inadequate
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or use additional sheets, this is coming right off of the
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resolution form. So proper submission of
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resolutions, we definitely like say, if you're looking to change
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language, you're going to have the original language that then
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you're going to strike through it.
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This is where being typed out really helps rather than
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handwritten. Finding resolutions again, the
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resolutions of the type that are 100% within the power of the
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national board to enact. Non-binding resolutions are
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typically advisory in nature. We kind of somewhat kind of dub
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them as the wish list for contraction contract talks.
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Yes. And then or it is the save them
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for consideration during the next contractual discussions
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with the post office. How many of those actually get
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talked about? We don't know, because they died
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transparent and what they're negotiating.
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Not as many as David edit through Outlet, step 4.
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Anyway, resolution that was not passed at a State Convention,
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may only be entertained by the delegates.
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By suspending, the rules under new business.
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Ice I submitted one my state Four.
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Allowing all carriers table 1 or table 2 to get the full call.
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Wha Which is a listed in article mine and so in, they section you
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have the current language. I typed out the paragraphs that
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had to do with Cola And I'm just going to read the top sentence
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or so, this is the basic salary schedules provided for in table,
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1, and step 15 table. 2 of this agreement shall be increased by
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and that's outside. and what I did is, Under the section for
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the change. I struck out the language of
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table 1 and step 15 of table, too.
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And then struck the language of steps 1 through 14. for the
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basic salary change provided for table, two of the agreement,
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completely removing that part allowing for all carriers table
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one or two to get the full Cola increase.
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And the problem with that is, you know, people at step one
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table one will be against that. Matt.
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And I don't understand that, I don't understand that either
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because it doesn't affect them, the disparity of pay that they.
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It's the infighting that we've talked about between rural
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carriers in the craft. Oh yeah.
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Just like just like our last conversation of how carriers
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that got an increase are fighting with carriers.
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That got a decrease. Yeah, and this is the same
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thing. You have carriers that are
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priest over carriers, that are decreased and what we need to do
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and it's the same thing as the conversations of people about
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raising. The minimum wage people are
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upset about raising the minimum wage, when they make way more
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than minimum wage. But instead of being proud for
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people, fighting for a higher wage there, more path to push
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down the people pushing for a higher wage instead of lifting
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them up. So that's that's why it's
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because it's this, it's about me mentality.
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And we're here unbiased. Unfiltered we're here for
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everybody doesn't matter if you wait up.
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No matter if you went down, we're here and table 1 and table
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to carriers on this panel. And meanwhile I'm your table for
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RCA cable 3. For, but yeah, for oh yeah,
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Table Three is PCS, right? So it's the RCA's that were
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hired in Prior. So, oh, the ones that are
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supposed to go to table 1, when they convert.
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Yes, yes. Yeah, but not all of them.
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I have heard some day got hired in than that, little that small
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little area. There between those dates that a
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lonely word table. 03 and then went full-time on table to yeah.
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Anyone hire between, I want to say November of 2010, and August
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of 2012 will go where I go round table to anyone.
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Hire prior to that 2010 date will be table one.
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You know, and then I also went back and found page starts
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dating back from March of 2013. And I use the table one step, a
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verse table to step 1 at 40 hours.
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Evaluation and 2013, the variance.
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The difference in Pay was five thousand four hundred twenty six
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dollars. The most recent pay chart I have
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in here. Was August 27th of 2022 and that
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was eight thousand. Three hundred sixty nine.
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And we know we've had a couple of pay increases since then.
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Yeah. If I think I looked at it last
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it was like eight thousand. Five hundred Seventeen dollar
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difference from the current pay chart between the table to Step
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One in the table. One.
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Stuffy. I think, they subjunctive
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change. It is amazing, what that
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imagine? What that could do for the
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table? Two carriers.
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Yeah, you know, and you looking at in 10 years, that's 3,000
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hours. Yeah, but they drop.
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Yeah. And and the separate reality is
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to expand as you go up and up and pay increases.
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Yep. And I don't meet me as a table,
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to I won't. I won't reach that and I won't
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reach table one, step 12 until what, 15, I think it is.
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Yeah, so the difference, with the table 14, the first, a b and
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c, there's ninety six weeks between their step increases.
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Whereas table, two is 52 weeks straight across the board.
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Yeah, but it's 48 after that. Yeah. 44:44.
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Okay, my bad, I was off by four months.
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Well, it's Ninety Six, ninety six weeks, ninety.
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Six weeks, 44:44. Then I think it goes down to 32
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for a few of them. It is not being 12 and a half to
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keep the 13 years somewhere in there.
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Where is it? Yes, the table to it with the
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table to 15 years, Muir. No matter, no matter whether
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you're there. You know, and it's also think of
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all the subs. Subs, that have been working for
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10, 15 17, 20 years, that come on, and they automatically start
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at Step 1. And I was a paid.
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Yeah. And I had a, he only was a sub
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for three and a half years and I took a pay decrease when I
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became a regular. Yep, this is 20:23.
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It's only been 10 years since table to was introduced.
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So you still don't have 880 carriers at 15 sf-15?
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Yeah, yeah. Nine, possibly. 10 months.
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Yeah, and you're going to see nothing for those eight and a
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half years. And that day was funny,
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unfortunately. Yeah, we gave says, you became a
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regular lost money. It's like we just had a young
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lady convert the regular, and she is making less now.
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And I said, yeah, that's the post office for you.
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How could that be? Well, I will, I will admit part
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of that is all my benefits part of.
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That is my retirement, my in currents, an octopus.
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When I converted the only option for inference was The NRL CA,
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right and it was expensive at the time for me.
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So, I wasn't going to go on the inner LCA insurance and then,
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when I converted immediately got insurance, I got the retirement
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dental and all that other stuff. On top of my do nothing.
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Braden could have gotten as an RCA.
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Yeah. Unless they change it because I
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had it. I still have the same plan.
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I hate when I didn't want to pay the prices.
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I didn't want to pay their prices so it's probably finally
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I heard it. Hi.
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Had that expense had it on. I had my retirement and sharpen
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stuff added on my dude, went up because RCA's K less than Jews
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and regular carriers were yep. So a lot of that was just
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deductions coming out of my paycheck but it also was the
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fact that I was no longer working 50, 60 hours a week like
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an RCA I was taking the past and I was working my five days a
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week, taking my NS days, I'm lucky I was in and off.
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I'm in an office that I don't have to work my nsa's.
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But verify their carriers that go straight to it, straight onto
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the floor and they have to work there in the last days even
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before everybody. Got every one of them got
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dropped to an H route so, well, I looked out for, you know, with
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the pay I didn't lose any pay because I was only working four
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days a week. Before I went regular.
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So, Yeah, you don't think about that ended up working out to
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about the same for we after all the deductions and everything.
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Yeah. When I became top sub, I was
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working six days a week. I got lucky, I was running
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routes all week and I never had to work an Amazon Sunday.
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But at the same time that's still six days a week is a lot
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of hours as an RCA. And of course I never got
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evaluation because of this, I lost money on that but I was
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still making more than I am as a regular now.
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Then I'm almost a year. I'm almost here three.
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And I'm still not making as much as I was a sub time table, too.
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But that's that's what we what we take when we decided to have
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this this job opportunity to have these benefits.
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Yep. Unfortunately at but but with
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resolutions, we can maybe change that.
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That's, that's the hope. This one actually is for the
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current situation kind of worrying.
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With Ralph going wave poop super.
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Overburdened, it comes actually from a situation in my own
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office is why I wrote it in the first place.
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But it actually is also for the carriers that are old way over
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Forty-Eight K. So when I wrote it, I wrote it.
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If you look at a resolution for my wrote it for 20:23 State
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Convention as a non-binding. Under.
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Salary. And works to work rules and time
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standards. I didn't know which one it
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actually specifically fell under which they will fix in the in
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the resolutions committee. It's under the national contract
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because it's part of the contract article, 30 section,
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one paragraph. J, I wrote out the present
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language, J carriers rights and Route adjustments.
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The regular rural carrier assigned to the route.
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He'll be notified in advance of any route adjustments and
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afforded the opportunity to submit comments and ratings.
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The comments will be considered as a factor when such
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adjustments are under consideration.
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And before any decision is made, Substantial route adjustments.
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Must be approved at a level higher than the installation.
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In if requested in, writing, will be reviewed at the district
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level. Except for adjustments, to avoid
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actual work hours and excess of 2080 during the guarantee
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period. Now I put be it resolved or
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proposed language. I put the language and through
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this. I switched out.
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I added the word primary. So the comments will be
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considered as a primary factor when such adjustments are under
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consideration and I included After the guarantee period, I
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included a rural carrier or a union designee at request of the
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carrier, must be present for the adjustment, and the carrier must
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sign off to approve the adjustment before the adjustment
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will be made any discrepancies. Will result in, adjust in an
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adjustment meeting between the union District representative
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and District management, no adjustment will be made prior to
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resolution. The intent of reason for change
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many routes have been documented as having an adjustment done.
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That was arbitrarily made without regard to the carrier or
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local Management's input. These adjustments have resulted
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in loss of pay or mileage to karaoke or have not made logical
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sense. Putting the carrier first in
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round justments and requiring, a sign-off will help Stave off
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many issues arising from individuals who aren't Oil in
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the area or route from making changes to routes without proper
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input. The reason I put this one
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forward and the thought process behind it is a route in my
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office was heavily overburdened to the tune of 12 hours.
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He has so many new houses, put into the trailer park new boxes,
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put in the trailer park that his route just exploded.
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Now we submitted an area of removal with concurrence with
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local management that would have literally adjusted his route to
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a 43k. No problem.
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That was submitted to a District representative editor out of the
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another post office, he or the postmaster in another office.
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But he's the district guy for adjusting routes and he turned
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around cut a completely different section.
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Off the route, cut more boxes and Miles off the route, then
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where necessary, it has literally turned the route from
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AKA route. Out to almost an H Brown and
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that was before the count. They listed it as a 43k but this
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carrier, is getting in and getting out and getting done by
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noon every day with his route. And that's not fair.
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That carriers could be adjusted for 43k, as proton practice.
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But we can't prove. He wasn't because they say it's
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a 43k until is count because we haven't had counsel 2018.
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But I want to take it out of District hands in so much that
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they can just arbitrarily take off whatever they want.
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The other side of it is I did hear of a route that and put on
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another route and instead of taking apart, that was near, The
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route. They were putting it on that.
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Carrier has to drive practically.
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This guy's entire route. To go do a small section at the
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end of his route. It doesn't make logical sense.
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So having carrier and local management input is the best way
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we can logically and soundly make efficient cuts to routes.
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but, I like it. you know, it makes sense, I think if and when
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they fully implement the They all TMD p.m.
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To be able to start doing that. In theory will should do that
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automatically. I hope so.
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But I also look at it this way, as a computer guy, you can take
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all that information that the Postal Service collects for
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these routes, they know, every address that gets every letter
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flat and package, right? They can assign an exact time
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amount to each box and we already have an exact time
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amount. Thanks to the mapping of the
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distance between boxes and things like that.
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So it wouldn't be too difficult to accurately cut her out with
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LTM. M&D p.m. but it's a government
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program. It was made by the cheapest
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people, they could find. So the fact is if it can even do
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that would be a surprise to me. But yeah, we talked about that
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before but yeah, I think that'd be a great idea to be able to
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have not so carrier input, you know, take it in, you know in
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consideration. Just as a suggestion, right to
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actually have them, you know, kind of involved.
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Damn, your husband are Route 8. They know that route.
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They drive that route. They kept the furthest part all
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and gave it to Around that was on the floor, you know, on the
32:25
opposite side of their route. So now there's second various
32:29
drive through their territory, her, maybe 100 boxes, and they
32:34
tried that to get back to their route.
32:38
Yep. Or like, they was discussing
32:41
past the one more out, you drive, past a section like three
32:47
and a half miles to deliver some, come back to that section.
32:51
Three half miles to move over that small area and driving over
32:55
three and a half miles back to where the main part of the route
32:57
is the one route. I was talking about, it's, you
33:03
know, it's got a trailer park on it, but they literally cut.
33:07
Up the middle of the route and across the top of the row.
33:11
One neighborhood, it's like four streets.
33:15
But it's almost half his route. All those addresses, except the
33:19
trailer park, I'm not counting the trailer park.
33:21
Addresses I'm coming as one stop.
33:24
But if you counted the rest of the boxes on his route that
33:26
almost half the rest of his boxes right where they wanted,
33:30
they wanted to only cut a quarter of his boxes off.
33:37
To it. So that's why we're putting.
33:39
I'm putting this forward and hopefully, it'll get into the
33:41
national contract, you know, you know, management won't agree to
33:45
it, but I can try. I mean, I would follow the lines
33:51
of the route optimization waiting.
33:53
The you hear so much about as well, too.
33:56
Well, I thought you were just saying, yeah, but wanted carry
34:03
even with the route optimization.
34:06
That's what I'm looking at. We want more control, we want
34:10
more control over decisions that affect us.
34:18
How do you have concern about this is that you know, doing the
34:23
DPM yell p.m. and, you know, our breadcrumbs, we've been laying
34:28
for years and everything. if you got to make an adjustment to a
34:33
route, I want you to drive it. The reason being is that we've
34:40
had adjustments done in our office, we have one route where
34:45
the, you know, Regional rural carrier specialist who I won't
34:52
name, but he's a piece of shit, know it all has a carrier going
34:56
by the same mailbox three times. He also has a route where you
35:02
pass 124, Carriage homes, the drive, you know, the rest of the
35:07
route which is AK 48. Come back to the 124 towards the
35:13
end of it and then drive, three and a half miles to do.
35:17
Two and a half streets. And then go back to the office.
35:21
The only problem is the two-and-a-half streets are
35:24
crossed by three other routes, but his line of travel, you
35:28
know, is suspect because you passed 124 Carriage homes.
35:34
There's another example where they carry you give us up and
35:37
down one street. And, you know, ends up further
35:41
away from the post office instead of closer to the post
35:43
office at the end of a route because she's Dead Heading, you
35:47
know, for to cul-de-sacs, which he could.
35:49
Left hand turns into it's not illegal for you to make
35:53
left-hand turns especially when you have a clean line of sight.
35:57
So yeah and it's cheaper for the post office but you know if it's
36:03
a real carrier specialist tells your supervisor who used to be a
36:06
clerk and never Carry Me on their life that, you know, this
36:09
is the way it is. They're not going to, you know,
36:11
go against someone. Yeah.
36:12
They're afraid to, you know, that they're afraid of losing
36:15
their jobs forever in the day. And I don't understand how
36:20
people can live like that. Yeah, it's like when I first got
36:26
my route, it heavy going down up and down the one, the one street
36:31
five times. I'm like, that's ridiculous.
36:36
And I yell, I took to two or three months, hold it down
36:43
differently. Drove it, you know, Rotel ran
36:45
the route, a few different ways until I found the most optimal
36:51
way. Yeah, I lost some my late, you
36:54
know, maybe order a half, a mile each day.
36:59
But at least the route was running fluently.
37:06
I wasn't. Co down turning here come out.
37:10
Go back up to the end of the road come back down.
37:14
Go into that section, come back out, go back up to the
37:18
beginning. It was crazy.
37:22
You know, whenever we have a route that this, this carrier
37:29
decided to Route it a specific way.
37:33
And the way she routed it, made it nearly impossible, impossible
37:42
for it to be done in an efficient manner.
37:45
And she starts off at a Middle Street, goes down through the to
37:50
the lowest Street comes back and does the top Street then goes
37:55
down and does a little side street off the Lower Side of the
38:00
route. Then goes back and does the
38:02
business. Enos has she added like?
38:07
12 miles to the route. I do in this.
38:10
Just so that she could help her pay.
38:12
I'm waiting for the LT M to go. Nope this is an efficient.
38:15
Do it this way. Movie LT M.
38:21
Do that though. Well, the optimization part of
38:25
it. Well, once they actually turn it
38:28
on supposedly, I don't remember. Our keyword are drinking game
38:33
word, supposedly. Yeah.
38:37
North Carolina was going to be a pilot for that, and they went
38:43
away slide while ago. So they already having enough
38:49
problems with the Rexall little all by itself.
38:52
It can't do anything else at this point.
38:54
Until that's that's all right. Does anybody have any examples
39:02
of some for the kind of the Constitution's?
39:10
Yes, I turned around. And I created a resolution.
39:20
Binding resolution for the national officers.
39:26
Because a lot of carriers feel if they're out of touch with
39:32
what it means to be a rural carrier.
39:35
So, I did a binding resolution for the 2023 State Convention,
39:44
Based on the national Constitution.
39:48
Whereas the national officers. Are away from the field.
39:59
Working tirelessly for the Union at the national office.
40:03
And the national officers are elected, re-elected on occasion
40:09
National officers, who are elected for multiple terms of
40:12
office, must return to their routes one day each year.
40:17
After their first year in office, to observe how the route
40:21
is being run, as well as how new procedures and processes agreed
40:25
to, by the national offices are affecting the carriers.
40:30
This will include spending the entire day from Start to finish
40:35
the national officer will coordinate with the district
40:38
office of the USPS to ensure a vehicle is available on a
40:42
government assigned vehicle route.
40:45
If the route is a POV route, it will be at the discretion of the
40:48
carrier, operating the route as to whether the national officer
40:52
May Ride Along on the route, with the carrier, this will not
40:56
affect the carrier's. Hold down status, on the
40:59
national office of route. Financial Officer, may also
41:03
choose to spend the observation day with a carrier in an office
41:06
at another District, at least 100 miles away from the national
41:11
office. The national officer must
41:14
contact. The carrier of that route to
41:16
ensure they are. Welcome intent.
41:20
Reason for change some carriers, may feel the national officers
41:24
are not in touch with how routes are being operated on a daily
41:27
basis. This will not only allow the
41:29
national officers to observe how routes are being affected but
41:32
will also give the national officers.
41:35
A moment to interact with carriers at a local level, this
41:39
will help provide insight and incentive for National officers
41:42
to help bring positive change to the carriers who have elected
41:45
them to national office. Thoughts.
41:51
I put the rinses out there for a week but I did well to be honest
41:58
to be honest, I was thinking about putting it out there that
42:01
they had to visit three or four routes in different offices
42:04
Across the Nation. But I was what I would have.
42:12
I was thinking that would probably be voted down on the
42:15
fact that a lot of carriers wouldn't want the national
42:17
officer to join them on their route in the National officers
42:20
would turn around and say, well I tried, I tried three people
42:23
and they don't want me to ride with them.
42:28
Kind of thing. So I wanted to make it just once
42:30
a year go out there. See how it's actually being
42:32
warped. I know they're doing a lot of
42:35
work up a national office. Lot of people don't see it.
42:39
A lot of people don't believe it but sorry not a lot of not a lot
42:46
of people I've ever been a president of a National
42:50
Organization either. They don't know what goes into
42:57
it. So, you know, I agree with you.
43:01
I purse, you know, personally, I would write it as, you know,
43:07
three to five times a year, not necessarily their own route or
43:14
three to five different in different regions.
43:19
Or one, you know, one time per region, and they have to rotate
43:23
which reading they go to. So they went to Atlantic this
43:26
time, they have to go to MIT States.
43:29
Next time, That's actually really good idea.
43:38
That, you know, I would different perspective, different
43:43
carriers in different areas. Well, that's, I mean, that's
43:46
where. I mean, this goes for all the
43:48
additional officers, though, but many are in our heroes have
43:51
their regions. Anyways, you have the four in
43:54
our. Oh, yes.
43:55
And obviously, they're going to be going back to, you know, they
44:00
as a four-year term, they could cover, you know, a different
44:05
state in their region each year. But I think a lot of this takes
44:10
out the, in the past, the resolutions of going back a bit,
44:14
you know, shot down basically because of them that are CA
44:18
going out of pay status because of that one day, or whatever it
44:22
is. And I think it is doing it.
44:24
Like I said, it was an observation.
44:25
Ation or, you know, an AK or Shadow day.
44:30
Where is that carrier still? That are CA that is still
44:34
carrying that route. It's just they're basically
44:36
doing a ride-along from start to finish.
44:39
I think it also opens up the communication between the
44:42
national board. In those of us that are all have
44:44
our feet on the ground and especially especially RCA's
44:50
which our next generation of carriers.
44:55
Wow and everybody on the national board you know the
44:58
nro's and the national boards themselves, they travel around
45:01
the country enough to all the different conventions and
45:05
functions and everything that they could go and spend a day in
45:09
the different area. Yes.
45:11
Ahead ahead of their schedule meetings are after schedule.
45:13
Meetings and yo just visit one office every time they travel.
45:18
I mean, you know, that, that would be an eye-opening
45:22
experience. To see how all the different
45:24
offices work that way and I think it whatever area, they're
45:29
going to, they need to go to the highest problem offices.
45:36
Mmm. That's a good.
45:39
One of those offices offices that you have these carriers on
45:44
the floor, literally in tears because they're being treated in
45:48
their office. And we've all heard it
45:52
throughout the years, you always be at least one, two, three,
45:54
half dozen of them basically you know, in tears talking about how
45:59
poorly treated that they are and those offices begging and
46:04
begging for help. It's a why can't those be the
46:08
first targeted offices? You know, why can't, why can't
46:14
we have a dedicated number to call it or national office?
46:20
To inform them of problem offices.
46:24
You know, I talk about that one postmaster that I didn't get
46:28
along with and she hated my guts because I wouldn't take her
46:31
crap. What if I could call up to
46:35
national office and say, hey, I was placed in this office
46:40
temporarily. And the way this postmaster is
46:43
treating her carriers is something.
46:45
The national office should look into and maybe getting that Eyes
46:50
On The Ground. Could be a way to get them to
46:53
look at fixing our issues that we have, you know, we were
46:59
talking about other podcasts and I was listening to others and
47:06
our city carrier are having the same Same problem.
47:10
They have offices that they have tons of problems with, and tons
47:15
of problems with management and they're complaining that
47:19
nobody's listening to him from the national level.
47:21
Just like, we are, And I don't care whether you are a rural
47:25
carrier or city carrier or even a contract carrier.
47:30
You are my brother and sister of the Postal Service fear clerk
47:35
your brother sister of the Postal Service.
47:39
We all work together for the same job.
47:42
And we're all fighting the same fight.
47:46
Against management. Now, you know, not all managers
47:50
are bad. I mean, there is a small
47:52
percentage that are pretty awesome.
47:54
I have been lucky enough to work under a few want but I've had my
47:59
share of not-so-great management as well and then, you know, I
48:05
know you'll hear co-workers complain about management and I
48:08
can just sit there be like, you know, What we have here is
48:12
nowhere near as bad as what some have right, you know, it's I
48:19
really think something like this, you know, not only, I
48:23
mean, it gets the Union in on the floor of those problem
48:26
offices, but it also opens up the communication between the
48:33
office level employees and the national board.
48:38
He was take gives exposure to the Union in those offices
48:43
especially in the bad offices where they feel like the Union's
48:46
forgotten them. In the offices, where they feel
48:51
like the steward system is not working the way, it should be
48:55
things like that. Getting those National officers
48:59
to take a look. This is what I want to do with
49:02
this resolution. I just want them to take a look
49:05
because we're if you haven't actually carried mail in a
49:10
while, you don't know the job we're doing.
49:13
Now, you weren't here for Amazon.
49:18
You are here for Rex you worked on it.
49:23
But you don't know how it works on the street, get out there,
49:27
get on the street. See how it works.
49:29
See how much of a problem is for Carrier?
49:31
See how we can fix it. Learn how the Siena College.
49:37
Yeah. Yeah.
49:46
Any scanner. I don't care.
49:49
I don't care if you can type 70 words a minute or you use one
49:52
finger to type every letter. You should know how the job you
49:59
are defending works. In the present. yes, now how it
50:09
was when you were carrying but in the present its yeah you know
50:13
if you haven't even seen DPS, But you're trying to tell people
50:18
that yeah taking GPS to the streets.
50:21
A good way to save time in the office, your way out of touch.
50:26
some carriers will tell you is some carriers will tell you, it
50:29
isn't Again. Well, I am all for casing, but
50:39
taking it to the street goes to almost, I'm because you're
50:44
grabbing the towing, the vehicle and yelling. so, You don't, you
50:51
know, you don't have to worry about being any office sorting
50:55
through it. Or anything putting it to the
51:00
right direction, pulling out your errors.
51:05
Things like that. Where you just try to do that on
51:08
the priests? Yeah, once you once you have
51:12
pasted or like, I do you pull down into your GPS, which is
51:16
basically tasting it, you just throwing Bowie's.
51:19
Okay. Chuck versus what you're
51:22
supposed to do. When you take EPS to the street
51:25
is drive up to the next box, top finger through the mail, find
51:31
the error, pull them out. Then throw it in the Box drive
51:34
to the next box. Top, fingers through the mail,
51:36
put it in the Box. With the throw and go method,
51:40
you pull up to the Box, you grab the next handful, throw it in
51:42
and you go. Well, you're still supposed to
51:46
verify when you at the box but if you've already gone through
51:50
it, if you've already gone through it or like I do.
51:54
I just listen. Okay.
51:56
However, If you taste it and pulled all the errors and you
52:02
have it, you know, each address separated properly.
52:09
There's not as much of a need to do so yeah.
52:12
Exactly. I am going.
52:16
So regardless, if I can't get some of these files uploaded
52:22
into the Facebook group, I spent on me unable to upload for the
52:27
last couple days. I will, so they got my Dropbox
52:32
back up and running. I will put a folder together and
52:36
share a link, for the drop box. That will have the resolution.
52:42
the presentation that I have that was made available to me,
52:47
put that in there as well as some example resolutions that
52:51
way if people want to see that and have an idea how the
52:55
resolution is actually written out and we'll get that in the
52:59
drop box and I'll put a link up for the Dropbox so they can
53:02
access that Okay. Anybody else have another
53:12
resolution. They want to put forward that
53:14
for an example. Wow.
53:20
Bill, I know you got some good ones, actually.
53:24
No, I don't have any for this year.
53:30
Our meetings next Wednesday and I've been, you know, swap
53:34
between trying to move son's wedding and all the Grievances
53:39
from the wrecks that, you know, I haven't put my mind to
53:43
resolutions at all this year. I and you know, the thing of it
53:48
is that Earlier, you said about, you know, working together is
53:53
not a resolution 41 or it. Yeah.
53:56
Most people don't understand the concept of the Union is for the
53:59
whole, not for the individual, we protect the individual, but
54:03
you're part of a collective. And this is why we're so
54:08
fractured as a union because we have, you know, the retirees at
54:12
the convention, we have the NSS at the convention, we have
54:16
everybody, but the regular carriers at the convention, you
54:19
have all your State office. Sirs there.
54:22
Yeah. Nobody there is representing the
54:25
regular carriers, we are. Yeah, we are.
54:30
Yeah. But yeah, we're the minority.
54:33
Okay. And yeah, you know, it's easier
54:35
to stay with status quo then to say, you know what, maybe
54:39
they're right. Maybe they're maybe we could do
54:41
things differently. Yeah, we're kind of Partners.
54:46
We make what 10 people? And that's that's only 10 people
54:49
in a room of what Thousand. Yeah, aren't you?
54:53
Yeah, I'm gonna put this out there.
54:55
Um, I've kind of brought this up to a couple of the co-hosts, but
55:00
I'm gonna put this challenge out for everybody and I've said it a
55:04
few times when you only have 20 percent of the membership that
55:09
votes for anything, whether that's voting for your National
55:12
delegates or voting for a contract resolution, when only
55:16
20% is voting, that's, you know, 15 to 20.
55:20
Thousand people out of 100,000 people.
55:27
When only 20% is voting and it's the same people that are voting
55:31
for the same people, you're going to get the same results.
55:37
I want to kind of put this out there for those that I mean
55:41
putting yourself out there isn't as a State Delegate for State
55:45
Convention is fairly easy. I don't know.
55:48
Of a lot of local units that actually fill all of their
55:53
delegate positions at the state level.
55:58
That definitely would be a first step.
56:03
National delegates. Everybody gets every member gets
56:06
a ballot to vote for their States national delegates.
56:12
Take a look at those names. A lot of people that do vote
56:16
vote by name recognition, I want to kind of post a little
56:20
challenge. Yes, you're going to have to do
56:21
some homework. If you go to the NRL, see a
56:24
website. And you go to the national
56:27
conventions tab, you can download the proceedings from
56:31
the past conventions. Take a look at those, you may,
56:35
if you have to skim through to where we get to the important
56:39
knit and gritty. I mean that's literally word for
56:41
word that goes on at the convention floor.
56:43
For the most part. Unless something is stricken
56:46
from the record, but we won't get to that right now.
56:51
Take a look at that and see the people that actually step up to
56:54
the mic as a delegate. And see if these are the people
56:59
that you want funding for you. If if what they have to say is
57:05
something that you agree with that, don't agree with and make,
57:08
you know, notes of names. And then when you get your
57:11
delegate ballots, Vote accordingly to how you feel, you
57:16
see names on there. You don't recognize.
57:18
I mean, A lot of people are on social media, you know, go in
57:23
and block their name up on Facebook if you can and see, oh,
57:27
are they in our CA are they somebody?
57:30
I mean, there's a lot of people and a lot of groups you can
57:33
reach out. You can find people that.
57:35
Hey, do you know who so-and-so is?
57:38
You know, and vote accordingly. I would like to see more people
57:43
vote for National delegates. That's how you're going to.
57:49
Eventually, get a change, is getting new delegates on the
57:54
floor. Am I correct gonna say that I'm
57:59
gonna say this more people turnout percentage wise for a
58:05
vote for governor and president than people do in the NRL CA to
58:12
vote for their delegates. It's a, it's honestly appalling
58:18
to think that only 20% of our Union is voting for people to
58:27
make a choice for you. Well, I would like to see some
58:32
resolutions about the ever the unpopular, but popular theory of
58:39
one Member One vote. And I know I've seen a few
58:43
people mentioned this recently, it can be done.
58:47
That would take a constitutional change, that would be a binding
58:51
resolution for a one Member One vote.
58:57
Nalc, does it apwu done? So, It faced some doubt, their
59:01
ballots to every member to vote for their national boards.
59:06
Oh now there's that's a good one.
59:10
It is very possible you would need.
59:14
And this is another thing, if you have more people in
59:18
different states submitting, these store, any type of
59:21
resolution y'all can put your heads together.
59:23
I know we all talk. We're all on social media.
59:28
You know, of getting these together.
59:30
So if it doesn't pass it, one state, but three states, pass
59:33
it. Well, now, you have three states
59:35
submitting, the same resolution and at National or form, or you
59:41
know what I mean? If you can get, if it doesn't
59:45
pass one, it's going to pass somewhere else down the road.
59:49
That's where building up. The momentum comes in is getting
59:54
the more of those people to have the same thought, process have
59:57
the same concerns and want to see similar changes.
1:00:03
Y'all need to start putting it, the effort in being the keyboard
1:00:09
Warrior is not going to make the change.
1:00:13
Voting. The right delegation in will
1:00:15
make a bigger change. Then just playing the keyboard
1:00:19
Warrior or leaving the Union. Beeping, speaking of keyboard
1:00:26
Warriors, you can actually go into the groups, each Facebook
1:00:30
group and actually start the names on your ballot.
1:00:34
Yep. If they're in that group, it
1:00:37
will actually pull up conversations comments that
1:00:41
they've made on post. So pull up post they've made,
1:00:44
you can actually get an idea of how they think just by how they
1:00:48
post on social media. Because a lot of them think in
1:00:53
total media, that people aren't going to fully recognize who
1:00:59
they are. And they're going to put forth
1:01:04
who they really are on social media to everybody.
1:01:08
So you're going to get a better idea of how that person's going
1:01:11
to vote when they become a national Delegate for you.
1:01:15
So be mindful of what's out there and what they're saying
1:01:19
about things and how they say it.
1:01:21
As it gets closer to National delegate ballots going out,
1:01:28
which will probably be coming up into May here.
1:01:31
Or shortly, I will, I will make a post in the Facebook group and
1:01:40
I will under the comment section, have each state
1:01:43
represented and those that are putting their names on the
1:01:47
ballot as a national delegate, you will be open to put your
1:01:51
comment underneath your state, to put your name on there.
1:01:54
So you get some sort of recognition, at least within
1:01:56
that group. I know couple other groups have
1:02:00
done it in the past and I think it's been done on the world male
1:02:04
talk forums. That's I mean it's a start of
1:02:10
getting your name out there, that's the whole thing is
1:02:12
getting your name out there so people know who you are and know
1:02:16
where your priorities lie when it comes to what we want to see
1:02:18
in the future. But yeah, definitely the first
1:02:21
step of saying any type of change on a national level is
1:02:24
getting The proper delegates voted in to that convention
1:02:28
floor. on the other side of that, if you want to step up and
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be a delegate, It's in your eight papers for your state.
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Government Nationals in the National Paper, you get the
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magazines from the from the union.
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Any Union member can run to be a delegate.
1:02:50
You can you can put yourself fourth, you can have a friend,
1:02:54
put you forward. Hi there.
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Or if you want to step up and actually be a delegate and you
1:03:01
are elected a delegate, your state has to pay for you to go.
1:03:08
To be that delegate every state and how they pay change.
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It is different. So I'm not sure I can tell ya
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how that you would have to talk to your State Association like
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know how that works. But I mean like for me For me, I
1:03:25
mean, I go to conventions and sometimes my County supports me
1:03:28
going, they actually pay for me to go as a representative of the
1:03:34
county. So, that's another option is, if
1:03:37
you're going to your county meetings, you could possibly be
1:03:41
picked to go to like for Kristen and me Midstate.
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And be supported by your county. So it's not as big of an expense
1:03:50
for you know like it takes forever.
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For me is 14 hours away. Kristen is what 16?
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Yeah pretty close. Yeah.
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So my county is actually going to cover that expense on top of
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my hotel room and food and things like that.
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It doesn't cover everything granted because they're going to
1:04:14
be other expensive. My County does that my state on
1:04:20
the other hand because I did not get moved up, I was an alternate
1:04:24
delegate at the last National and I did not get bumped up to
1:04:29
delegate why we were there. So our state, luckily, the first
1:04:34
10 alternate delegates from National, if they did not move
1:04:38
up, our then paid to go to mid states.
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So, I was second in line. So I will get some sort of
1:04:46
reimbursement at the end when I get back.
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It. I will have to pay anything out
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of pocket up front last year. I was not paid to go to mid
1:04:54
states, and I went out my own National.
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I was not a paid delegate, I was an alternate.
1:05:00
My state does not pay alternates.
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I paid for National out of my own pocket, but you can be an
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RCA and be a delegate. You can be an RCA and you can
1:05:11
run for state board. You can run for local board and
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yes, as an RCA. You can even run for national
1:05:17
board. Been there, done that.
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That. So it's it's not just regular
1:05:23
carriers RCA's can be involved just as much.
1:05:26
I mean you can be on your local board.
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I have done that in the past. You can be on your state board
1:05:33
and you can potentially run for national board and if they like
1:05:39
you you who knows what could happen.
1:05:41
But again it's getting the right delegation into the system and
1:05:45
on that floor to make any type of change.
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Anything else to add guys. Okay.
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You know in regards to what you were saying about, you know,
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getting paid or reimbursed couple years ago, North Carolina
1:06:06
for the first, you know, Institute at the state level,
1:06:09
they pay their state delegates. My local District.
1:06:17
Also, you know, which is a hundred dollars a day for the
1:06:23
three days of biscuits at 3:00 and then my district, we've
1:06:28
elected to put up 5:00 split evenly.
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Amongst all history are all delegates that go to the State
1:06:36
Convention. So between the two, it covered
1:06:43
most of the expenses, not all but you know most most of our
1:06:49
expenses and that something as they, you know, at your local
1:06:54
meetings, if they are, don't already have something, you can
1:06:58
bring that to the floor as something to be voted on, you
1:07:03
know, depending on what your local.
1:07:06
District budget is and if it's money is an issue when it comes
1:07:14
to going to these things, especially with hotel rooms and
1:07:16
whatnot. Rumors people.
1:07:19
You don't have to room with people from your own State.
1:07:22
I mean, we inform us last year to from North Carolina, one from
1:07:26
Florida and myself were Michigan sharing a room splitting, the
1:07:28
tab. I mean, that's that's out there.
1:07:31
I mean, I have an extra bed available for my state.
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So if anybody's interested in going still and you want to
1:07:38
split a cost of a hotel? Let me know.
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I it's just me now. My traveling buddy,
1:07:42
unfortunately is no longer with the post office so I'm going if
1:07:46
you want to split a room, I'm Putting it out there.
1:07:49
You know, I'm sharing a room with my regular for my first
1:07:52
office for State Convention and possibly for National.
1:07:56
I haven't you know that was an initial plans but if it comes
1:07:59
out that more people need, you know, roommates are what not?
1:08:02
We'll figure it out. It's, you know, get a traveling
1:08:06
buddy and if you want to go just to go National this year is in
1:08:12
Grand Rapids. Michigan, if you want to go,
1:08:15
even if it's only for a couple days.
1:08:18
You don't have to be, you can register to go as an attendee
1:08:22
you obviously. At that time, you don't have
1:08:26
voting rights as a non delegate, and basically your they're
1:08:29
observing for the most part. But you can register to go as an
1:08:33
attendee as a non delegate and and just see what goes on and
1:08:38
the convention floor and see how things are and, you know, take
1:08:43
mental notes, that is always the option, the same goes for State
1:08:47
conventions to you Don't have to be a delegate to be there.
1:08:50
You can be there and see what goes on and, you know, then like
1:08:53
all right, you know. I don't like how this went.
1:08:56
Maybe I'll be a delegate next year and submit something and
1:09:00
try to change it. You know, you don't have to be a
1:09:04
delegate to submit a resolution, you can submit a resolution at
1:09:07
your local level and it get passed up the state and if you
1:09:11
can't make it, it'll still get presented to the floor from the
1:09:13
resolutions committee. Yep, my day.
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Yes, yes. Yours got paroled.
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That National? Yes.
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And you were right. I was a non delegate at my State
1:09:25
Convention. I spoke with are now director of
1:09:29
Labor Relations and asked if she could help me by suspending, the
1:09:33
rules in new business. So that a non delegate could
1:09:37
present a resolution. And I actually stood up and
1:09:41
presented my resolution and they passed it on the floor right
1:09:45
there. Right.
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After I presented it and it went on to National.
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I didn't go to National. It was so presented.
1:09:56
Yes, so failed there but I'm too wordy.
1:09:59
Apparently, I talk too much, there is ways of being evolved
1:10:04
without being there in person at times as well.
1:10:10
You are protected under article, 24 of the contract for leaf
1:10:16
pertaining to Union business. So if you will put in a leaf
1:10:21
slip and management, wants to say this there, another A copy
1:10:26
of article 24 with you. Because that's always a fun one.
1:10:32
And you don't have her, whatever practicable so that is
1:10:49
outside of the 60 days. Yeah, so you can give them a
1:10:55
heads up outside of 60 days to find somebody to cover your
1:10:59
route for you. And they have three days to
1:11:03
three business days, to get it back to you, close a business
1:11:07
from the close of business. On the day, you submit it, three
1:11:10
days later they have to get it back to you approved or denied
1:11:15
and the denied reason to not just be need to service or
1:11:20
anything else. It has to be a actual specific
1:11:25
reason why they're denying it and Union business is the
1:11:29
exception to the 60 days because a lot of Time.
1:11:32
You've already paid for a hotel room and things like that, which
1:11:35
is one of the reasons that you can put in for more than 60 days
1:11:38
out. Union business is the same
1:11:40
thing. Yes, but we're going to wrap up
1:11:46
tonight. Like I said, I'm going to try
1:11:47
and get files and Facebook doesn't want to let me upload
1:11:50
them. I will get things organized in a
1:11:53
Dropbox folder and get that link to put up for everybody.
1:11:56
So they have a chance to kind of get in there and see and then
1:12:00
I'll have some examples of passed resolutions whether or
1:12:03
not they passed or not. They will just I'll go in and
1:12:06
edit them and set them up in his examples and block out names and
1:12:10
information and all that good stuff.
1:12:12
So we're not having to worry about the repercussions of that
1:12:15
getting put out there. You guys.
1:12:17
Got anything else you want to end with?
1:12:22
I'm saying this Union is for everybody.
1:12:28
Dues paying none. Dues paying if you are a non
1:12:32
dues-paying member. We want you to participate.
1:12:38
If you can't, if you just can't in your heart going, the union
1:12:42
but you want to help the union out and get a resolution.
1:12:46
Pull forward, find a union person in your office that
1:12:50
participates offer it to them. I'm sure they'd be more than
1:12:55
willing to help you put that force in the contract.
1:12:59
If you have one of those Reach out to somebody.
1:13:08
Like I said, that's where social media can come in handy, you
1:13:12
know. I get some people, especially
1:13:14
some table, 2 hours and there are few table wanders out there,
1:13:17
that just cannot afford that extra deduction out of their
1:13:21
paycheck. It's not that they don't want
1:13:23
to, it's just, they can't afford it.
1:13:25
Whatever the personal, you know, everybody's personal situations
1:13:29
are different and I totally get that and I totally respect that.
1:13:34
But, you know, there are means and ways.
1:13:37
I mean, if you have an idea, Resolution definitely and you
1:13:42
are able to do it because you unfortunately can't afford the
1:13:47
dues. You know, get with somebody
1:13:50
within your state. That is willing to help you out
1:13:53
and worst case scenario, if you need to reach out on our
1:13:57
Facebook group. Definitely Facebook group has
1:14:02
has a bunch of people that want to participate want to be
1:14:05
involved. And if you don't have the means
1:14:08
recount and say, hey I have an idea for a resolution.
1:14:12
I'm from this state. Is there anybody here from this
1:14:15
state? That could help me with it?
1:14:19
And reach out that way. Yeah, definitely the door is
1:14:24
open. I mean if you're in one of our
1:14:26
state's you know reach out to one of us as well that door is
1:14:31
open to everybody. So build you got anything else
1:14:34
for tonight you know that you go back then and you know James is
1:14:38
saying about, you know, Union and non-union.
1:14:41
We're all part of the same crap. You know, my office, you know, I
1:14:47
share information equally because of the fact that if one
1:14:51
round gets harm, might not knowing anything.
1:14:53
And somebody bids on it and they're in the union and the her
1:14:56
previous scary, wasn't then, you know, it's gonna do scheana.
1:15:00
Did they get screwed? We have an overburdened.
1:15:04
Well I'm going to run round at sixty three point four six hours
1:15:07
but you know we had an overburdened route that had a PT
1:15:12
F on there and the Quasi hold down situation because we had
1:15:17
nobody else and now we have another Sub in there and he
1:15:22
calls out the mail, gets backed up.
1:15:24
And then, you know, people have to go over and help and clean it
1:15:27
up. I mean, you know, that's, that's
1:15:28
part of it. We have a new PTF came in from
1:15:31
outside and on Saturday. He went into a Ralph Klein and
1:15:35
everybody who knew that route pitched in to help them, you
1:15:38
know, get it all done. And he was like, oh my God, this
1:15:41
office is great. I said, well week, he had to
1:15:43
deal with management, okay. Only that bad.
1:15:47
And I says, yeah, but I said, but I'm worse.
1:15:50
So, yeah, you're okay. He is.
1:15:53
Yeah. Well, you know, the other
1:15:55
carriers, that the last office were bad.
1:15:57
Well, I'm starting to get suspicious because this guy's
1:15:59
been at five different offices already.
1:16:02
Oh, wow. you know, now the worst thing is that he goes into a
1:16:08
route blind and does under evaluation I mean does the
1:16:13
something stake here or is it just me or does not mistake here
1:16:19
and it is me Always, definitely you.
1:16:23
Okay that I wasn't going to say that thank you for timing that
1:16:28
in lets, you know, get hurt my feelings.
1:16:31
I don't have any Yeah. It's like a like a my office one
1:16:35
of my resolutions and I'm putting forward actually came
1:16:38
from one of our RCA's. That is a non dues-paying
1:16:41
member. She wants to she wanted to see a
1:16:44
change and she asked me if we could do something about it.
1:16:48
And I said I offered and said, hey if you need want to you can
1:16:51
join you just can't afford to. So I offered to put forth the
1:16:56
resolution for her. That's what we do, how we do it
1:17:02
as a union. No.
1:17:06
Yeah. You're only as strong as your
1:17:08
weakest link and you know, if you don't help the weakest link,
1:17:14
You become the weakest link? Yes, the whole Union does.
1:17:18
Yes. So you know build people up,
1:17:23
don't tear them down. Support each other.
1:17:27
Yeah. Josh, you have anything else for
1:17:30
this evening? Pretty much the same sediments
1:17:38
of arrest, you guys. I would say, like, always, don't
1:17:47
let yourself get overwhelmed, take a step back, take a breath,
1:17:52
step back in like everyone else said, if you have an idea that
1:17:58
you think my help and you just can't figure it out, reach out
1:18:01
to someone who is involved, or you think is involved.
1:18:07
That for is knowledge, at least knowledgeable.
1:18:11
That could help you put, you know put you know put it into
1:18:15
words. That would be working resolution
1:18:19
can be submitted. And that know guys like I said
1:18:22
we're here for you and I will try and get that information out
1:18:27
on. Give me a couple days back to
1:18:30
run into route today. Well today and tomorrow and then
1:18:34
I go into oh jeay, I status for the next few days.
1:18:38
So maybe a few days I'm By the first of the week, I will have
1:18:43
the resolutions up and ready for everybody.
1:18:48
And that note, everybody have a good night and we'll be back on
1:18:51
our regular episode on Sunday. I did.
1:18:54
I mean, I don't