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UFOs over Los Angeles International Airport · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call
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  Speaker 1: this episode UFOs over Los Angeles International Airport. In case
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  Speaker 1: you don't know it, airports all across the world are
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  Speaker 1: being visited by UFOs and LAX here in Southern California
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  Speaker 1: is at the top of the list. In fact, I've
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  Speaker 1: documented almost a dozen cases in which UFOs have hovered
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  Speaker 1: directly over this airport. starting all the way to the
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  Speaker 1: early 1950s, pretty much up to the present day. I
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  Speaker 1: will say that LAX Airport is the third busiest airport
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  Speaker 1: in the world and at one point transported more than
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  Speaker 1: 80 million people in just one year. So this is
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  Speaker 1: a very busy airport and is among, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: the most visited in terms of UFOs as well. So
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  Speaker 1: let's just get started on these very interesting cases because
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  Speaker 1: I think they have something important to reveal about the
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  Speaker 1: nature of the UFO phenomenon. And the earliest case I
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  Speaker 1: could find occurred on July 15th, 1952. For four consecutive nights,
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  Speaker 1: dozens of witnesses observed unidentified craft directly over LAX. These
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  Speaker 1: objects would brazenly approach to within a quarter mile of
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  Speaker 1: the control tower's and hover in place for minutes at
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  Speaker 1: a time. One witness was a major Los Angeles aircraft
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  Speaker 1: company principal who insisted upon being anonymous, and he wrote
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  Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Examiner newspaper, and I quote, I
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  Speaker 1: am amazed at the increasing audacity of the strange disc-like
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  Speaker 1: objects seen in the sky over the Los Angeles Airport
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  Speaker 1: Control Tower. For four nights running, they've been seen at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, between 7 and 8 p.m., and the
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  Speaker 1: same place. On the last occasion, three of them hung
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  Speaker 1: poised for five minutes by the clock. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: first case, and again, it's certainly not the last. It
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  Speaker 1: was 14 years later that another case occurred on April 3, 1966.
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  Speaker 1: There were several witnesses, including a helicopter pilot, who observed, quote,
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  Speaker 1: an oblong object with several pairs of lights, end quote,
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  Speaker 1: hovering almost directly over the airport at only a few
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  Speaker 1: thousand feet of altitude. After hovering there for some minutes,
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  Speaker 1: the objects darted away. Seven years later, UFOs were back
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  Speaker 1: over LAX. This next incident occurred on April 1, 1973.
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  Speaker 1: It was around dawn when several residents of Hollywood... reported
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  Speaker 1: seeing a disk-like object glowing and spinning and moving like, quote,
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  Speaker 1: a cork bobbing on the ocean. This is typical UFO movement.
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  Speaker 1: And this object was on a direct course towards Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles International Airport. So there you go, another report. And
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  Speaker 1: it was just three years later when the UFOs were
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  Speaker 1: back over LAX. On March 23, 1977, a gentleman by
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  Speaker 1: the name of Mark Hogan, who worked as a cargo
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  Speaker 1: handler at LAX Airport, saw what he described as a
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  Speaker 1: tear-drop or tin-can-shaped object which came in over the ocean
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  Speaker 1: from the direction of Catalina Island and flew in formation
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  Speaker 1: over the airport runways. The object had two fixed lights
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  Speaker 1: on it, he said. March Air Force Base, which is nearby,
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  Speaker 1: was contacted, but they denied any knowledge of this incident.
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  Speaker 1: They said it did not appear on their radar. They
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  Speaker 1: knew nothing about it, nor were they conducting any type
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  Speaker 1: of rocket tests. I will say that LAX is along
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  Speaker 1: the Santa Catalina Channel, which is a huge magnet for
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  Speaker 1: UFO activity. That could be a factor here, but in
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  Speaker 1: these cases, these objects are coming right over the airport itself,
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  Speaker 1: as if they want to be seen or certainly are
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  Speaker 1: showing no fear of being seen. Another case occurred almost
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  Speaker 1: 20 years later, 18 actually, in 1995, when an anonymous
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  Speaker 1: air traffic controller at LAX itself revealed that during his
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  Speaker 1: six years of employment as a leading controller handling restricted airspace,
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  Speaker 1: he heard numerous accounts of UFO sightings and received several
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  Speaker 1: reports firsthand from pilots. And one of them occurred in 1992,
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  Speaker 1: he says. This was actually on August 5th, 1992. And
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  Speaker 1: as he says, and I quote, Northeast of LAX, a
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  Speaker 1: UAL 747 on climb out at about 24,000 feet suddenly said,
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  Speaker 1: Do you show something went right under us? We didn't.
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  Speaker 1: There was absolutely nothing on radar. The pilot said it
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  Speaker 1: went right by us, opposite direction, about three times the
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  Speaker 1: normal closure rate, which normally is 900 knots. We pulled
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  Speaker 1: up the primary radar, raw radar returns, and there was
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  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. The pilot said it was, quote, kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a rocket, but with something on top, and it
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  Speaker 1: was about the size of an F-16. I got on
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  Speaker 1: the landline to the lower controller to warn him for
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  Speaker 1: subsequent aircraft. The only restricted area had no activity at
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  Speaker 1: those altitudes, and there were no military aircraft in the area.
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  Speaker 1: We told the supervisor, and he just said, Huh. We
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  Speaker 1: just shook our heads and mostly forgot about it, though
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  Speaker 1: the pilot did make a report on it, and it
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  Speaker 1: appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technologies. This is a
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  Speaker 1: major magazine, and this magazine article actually described the sighting.
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  Speaker 1: As the article says, and I quote, The pilot and
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  Speaker 1: co-pilot of United Flight 934 with a heavy passenger load
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  Speaker 1: from Los Angeles to London said they saw an unusual
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  Speaker 1: aircraft coming directly at them and pass under the 747
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  Speaker 1: by an estimated 500 to 1,000 feet. The incident occurred
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  Speaker 1: near Georgia Air Force Base at about 1.45 p.m. on
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  Speaker 1: August 5th. The 747 was at 23,000 feet, departing from
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles International Airport on a heading of about 40
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  Speaker 1: degrees magnetic. The several-second sighting gave the crew the impression
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  Speaker 1: that the other aircraft was a lifting body configuration, and
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  Speaker 1: they described it as looking like the forward fuselage of
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  Speaker 1: a Lockheed SR-71, without wings, but with a tail of sorts.
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  Speaker 1: They estimated the size as similar to an F-16. Defense
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  Speaker 1: Department and Air Force officials said last week that it
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  Speaker 1: was not one of their secret projects. So this is
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  Speaker 1: apparently just one of several sightings this air traffic controller
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  Speaker 1: at LAX said that he was privy to. Something is
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  Speaker 1: clearly going on here. And another incident occurred around this
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  Speaker 1: same time on February 17, 1995 at 2.48 p.m. I
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  Speaker 1: actually interviewed this witness firsthand. He's a municipal park worker
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  Speaker 1: by the name of Brian Forrest. And he was on
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  Speaker 1: or next to the airport grounds on February On his
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  Speaker 1: normal route, when he looked up and observed what he
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  Speaker 1: described as a large black object hovering over Imperial Highway
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  Speaker 1: about 200 feet up in the air, practically right over
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Airport. He said it was less than a
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  Speaker 1: mile distant and it was very obvious to him that
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  Speaker 1: something very strange was hovering there. As Brian Forrest says,
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  Speaker 1: and I quote, it was about 200 to 300 feet
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  Speaker 1: in the air. I know the distance because I drove
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  Speaker 1: it in a car. The way I was able to
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  Speaker 1: tell it was approximately over there is a jet was
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  Speaker 1: taking off behind it. The pilot had to see this thing.
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  Speaker 1: I figured the people in the air control tower had
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  Speaker 1: to see it. It was shaped along the lines of
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  Speaker 1: a dark cylinder. Well, not a cylinder, more of a
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  Speaker 1: cone with a rounded top and bottom. Not pointed, but rounded,
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  Speaker 1: the bigger part being at the top. where you might
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  Speaker 1: think of it as an acorn-type shape. I would say
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  Speaker 1: it was approximately the size of a single-car garage turned
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  Speaker 1: on end. It did not move. It just stayed there.
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  Speaker 1: It was the strangest thing, because I've never seen anything
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  Speaker 1: like that. Your mind immediately goes, It's a helicopter. It's
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  Speaker 1: a balloon. It's a... It's a... No, it's not that.
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  Speaker 1: And I just kept staring at it. It did not move.
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  Speaker 1: This jet... was taking off behind it. Brian Forrest did
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  Speaker 1: notice another strange detail, as he says, the strangest thing
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  Speaker 1: is I think about it now in retrospect is it's
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  Speaker 1: as though it was in focus but almost slightly out
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  Speaker 1: of focus everything else was clear as a bell but
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  Speaker 1: imagine a canvas with fresh paint on it and you
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  Speaker 1: went up and down and slightly smudged it just a
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  Speaker 1: bit it was in focus but almost slightly out I
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  Speaker 1: found that interesting because this is something other witnesses have
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  Speaker 1: told me about their sightings. So Brian Forrest also remarked
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  Speaker 1: other details that UFO researchers look for, including the immobility
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  Speaker 1: of the object and the total lack of reflection. And
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  Speaker 1: as Brian says, and again I quote, you just don't
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  Speaker 1: see things there in the sky without some apparent reason,
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  Speaker 1: something holding it up, or it's drifting or moving in
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  Speaker 1: some way. But just to see it there and not
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  Speaker 1: move at all, it was like a rock. It didn't move.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a part of the sky. It was
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  Speaker 1: the strangest thing. There were no details. The object was
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  Speaker 1: completely black. No reflection on its surface. So after realizing
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  Speaker 1: that this object was unidentified, he rushed back inside to
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  Speaker 1: get another witness. But by the time he returned, this
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  Speaker 1: object was gone. And he's absolutely convinced he saw a
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  Speaker 1: genuine UFO. As Brian says, and I quote, it was
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  Speaker 1: like looking at a piece of the Twilight Zone. It
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  Speaker 1: was a real weird moment. And he did get some
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  Speaker 1: corroboration when one week later, the Orange County Register printed
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  Speaker 1: an article titled, Neighbors Encounter Unidentifiable Object. And it detailed
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  Speaker 1: the sighting of a dark, strangely shaped object hovering in
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  Speaker 1: the sky just south of LAX. And there were various
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  Speaker 1: descriptions from witnesses, including, quote, dark oblong objects, a Model
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  Speaker 1: T hit by a freight train, or a piece of
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  Speaker 1: junk hanging from an invisible balloon. One witness gave a
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  Speaker 1: description that was pretty much identical to Brian's, saying, it
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  Speaker 1: was a cylinder, black, turning and rotating in the sky
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  Speaker 1: it was two months later in 1995 april that there
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  Speaker 1: was another sighting over lax and again i was able
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  Speaker 1: to interview the witness firsthand the witness is a lady
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  Speaker 1: by the name of pat brown a massage therapist from
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  Speaker 1: panorama city she was driving along the freeway directly next
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  Speaker 1: to Los Angeles International Airport. This was around 3 p.m.,
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  Speaker 1: so during daylight hours, when she saw something so strange
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  Speaker 1: and so unusual that it was instantly obvious to her
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  Speaker 1: that this was a UFO. She described it as an
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  Speaker 1: enormous golden sphere gliding slightly downward over the airport. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll just let Pat Brown describe this sighting in her
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  Speaker 1: own words. As she says, and I quote, I was
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  Speaker 1: driving down the 405, and I got off the freeway
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  Speaker 1: at that Howard Hughes exit, and I was looking up
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  Speaker 1: at the sky, and the sky was crystal clear blue.
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  Speaker 1: And then, all of a sudden, there was a big
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  Speaker 1: gold ship. And it was obvious it was a ship.
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  Speaker 1: It was gold, and it was circular. It was like
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  Speaker 1: an airplane that was coming in for a landing at LAX.
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  Speaker 1: Not as large as the Southwest Airlines. That's one of
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  Speaker 1: the smaller planes. was maybe two-thirds the size of a
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  Speaker 1: Southwest airline. It was just seconds that I was able
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  Speaker 1: to see it. It was obvious to me because I
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  Speaker 1: saw it, and really, on this exit, there aren't a
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  Speaker 1: lot of cars, so there was no one to my right,
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  Speaker 1: no one in front of me that I was aware of,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't check behind me. It was just there,
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  Speaker 1: and then it wasn't there. And it was really interesting
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  Speaker 1: because it was on a 45-degree angle, like it was
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  Speaker 1: coming in for something. Pat Brown is a contactee, has
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  Speaker 1: had a number of sightings, and was visited by gray
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  Speaker 1: ETs and taken on board. So for her, this was,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say normal, but it's definitely something
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  Speaker 1: she's experienced before, and she was very much impressed that
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  Speaker 1: this was a UFO. But what really impressed her was
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  Speaker 1: this location directly over LAX. What is going on here?
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  Speaker 1: Why are there so many sightings over LAX? probably the
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  Speaker 1: granddaddy of all the LAX airport encounters, occurred in April
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  Speaker 1: of 1997, when literally dozens of witnesses called the news,
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  Speaker 1: called various radio stations, called the police, reporting seeing red
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  Speaker 1: lights over the airport. That evening, it was covered on
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  Speaker 1: the evening news. I remember watching the report. It was
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  Speaker 1: very tongue-in-cheek, very brief. They mostly just sort of ridiculed
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  Speaker 1: the witnesses, but they did provide descriptions from firsthand witnesses
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  Speaker 1: who described these as red lights or strange lights that, quote,
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  Speaker 1: hovered over the airport. And reportedly, they were seen on radar.
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  Speaker 1: So the reporting on this incident was somewhat incomplete. and
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  Speaker 1: not a true and proper investigation. But they certainly did
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  Speaker 1: verify that this incident did take place. I talked to
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  Speaker 1: one witness firsthand. He declined a formal interview, but said
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  Speaker 1: that he did see the lights himself and that they
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  Speaker 1: weren't very bright, but they were absolutely obvious. And he
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  Speaker 1: estimated that they were quite low, maybe a few thousand
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  Speaker 1: feet high, And he watched them for several minutes before
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  Speaker 1: they disappeared. So year after year, UFOs are coming and
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  Speaker 1: visiting LAX. And here is yet another case, which occurred
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  Speaker 1: on March 31st, 1999. This occurred just after midnight when
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  Speaker 1: a police helicopter and crew were flying immediately adjacent to
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  Speaker 1: LAX over the city of Carson. and they were circling
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  Speaker 1: their target location at a 500 feet of altitude when
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  Speaker 1: the pilot shouted out that a, quote, orange ball of
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  Speaker 1: light was an estimated two miles ahead of them and
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  Speaker 1: approaching fast. This ball of light raced towards the observers,
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  Speaker 1: changed direction, and moved at right angles. The helicopter pilot
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  Speaker 1: aimed the helicopter so that they could see this object
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  Speaker 1: and keep it in view. And as one of the
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  Speaker 1: crewmen says, and I quote, the object then changed direction again,
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  Speaker 1: accelerated and headed directly at the door of the helicopter.
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  Speaker 1: And the crewman admitted that he was so startled that
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  Speaker 1: he pressed both the radio and the intercom and shouted
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  Speaker 1: out an expletive. As the crewman says, and I quote,
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  Speaker 1: the object got within 200 feet of the aircraft and
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  Speaker 1: then changed direction again. flying to the north at a
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  Speaker 1: very high rate of speed and out of view. This
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  Speaker 1: crewman is absolutely insistent that this was a genuine UFO,
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  Speaker 1: and as he says, I hope you don't think I'm
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  Speaker 1: a nut, but I've been around and involved in aviation
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. I've never seen anything like this.
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  Speaker 1: The texture, the shape, the movement, the speed changes, and
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  Speaker 1: the drastic angles all added up to it not being
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  Speaker 1: being anything that I have seen before. So he was
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  Speaker 1: so impressed by this that he ended up calling New Fork,
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  Speaker 1: the National UFO Reporting Center, and reporting his sighting. He
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  Speaker 1: thought it was that important. It's another amazing case, which
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  Speaker 1: shows how close these objects get not only to LAX itself,
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  Speaker 1: but to the actual aircraft. I mean, planes... And helicopters
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  Speaker 1: do not approach to within 100 feet of each other.
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  Speaker 1: That would be called a near collision and would cause
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  Speaker 1: a huge investigation. And yet these objects are coming right
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  Speaker 1: up to these objects and hovering right over the airport itself.
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  Speaker 1: It's really quite amazing. And another case came not much longer.
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  Speaker 1: It was on July 23rd. 2002. And this is a
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  Speaker 1: really interesting sighting. It occurred exactly at 10 p.m. when
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  Speaker 1: more than a dozen witnesses, including a UFO researcher, MUFON
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  Speaker 1: State Section Director for Los Angeles, Mark Hunziker, all observed
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  Speaker 1: a large triangular-shaped UFO with red lights. and it moved
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  Speaker 1: directly over the southwestern end of Los Angeles International Airport,
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  Speaker 1: heading out towards the Santa Catalina Channel. Mark Hunziker, being
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  Speaker 1: a UFO researcher, was very familiar with astronomy and aircraft
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  Speaker 1: and the air flight patterns over LAX, and he was
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  Speaker 1: in Marina Del Rey just north of LAX when his
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  Speaker 1: neighbor alerted him to the object he looked overhead and
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  Speaker 1: he described this object as being quote a brightly lit
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  Speaker 1: array of lights which looked like they were configured to
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  Speaker 1: what appeared to be a central jet aircraft However, when
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  Speaker 1: he looked closer, he realized the shape was wrong and
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  Speaker 1: the object was covered with red lights. So not a
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  Speaker 1: standard aircraft. And more than a dozen witnesses from neighboring
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  Speaker 1: communities observed this same object. And allegedly one witness captured
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  Speaker 1: this object on videotape, an analysis of which showed this
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  Speaker 1: to be a large triangular shaped craft. The final case
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  Speaker 1: I found was relatively recent. This occurred on November 27, 2003,
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  Speaker 1: when a resident of Los Angeles who prefers to remain
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  Speaker 1: anonymous was driving along the 110 freeway, this is directly
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  Speaker 1: north of LAX, and he was watching the incoming planes
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  Speaker 1: line up when he saw, quote, an anomalous craft crossing
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  Speaker 1: over the approach path to LAX. He says this craft
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be a very large triangular-shaped object with several
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  Speaker 1: lights underneath it. He carefully observed this craft as it
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  Speaker 1: moved northeast directly over the airport. He was so impressed
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  Speaker 1: by it that he later investigated all the flights that
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  Speaker 1: took place that day at that time and was unable
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  Speaker 1: to find any corresponding match. So again, he remains convinced
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  Speaker 1: that this was a genuine UFO object And he reported
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  Speaker 1: his sighting in detail to the National UFO Reporting Center.
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  Speaker 1: So there's almost a dozen cases. I know there are more.
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  Speaker 1: Most people do not report these sightings. And a number
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  Speaker 1: of other sightings could be listed because they were in
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  Speaker 1: the same general area, the Santa Catalina Channel. It's hugely active.
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  Speaker 1: So this is probably part of that whole complex of sightings.
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  Speaker 1: But what's really interesting about these sightings is how close
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  Speaker 1: they are getting to LAX. And I think this shows
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  Speaker 1: that UFOs are purposefully showing themselves. Normally, sightings are pretty
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  Speaker 1: evasive and not wanting to be seen. But in these cases,
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  Speaker 1: it's clear that they are sort of showing themselves off.
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  Speaker 1: I first covered this series of events in my book,
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  Speaker 1: UFOs Over California. But after finding more events, I did
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  Speaker 1: another write-up in my book, Undersea UFO Base. LAX is
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  Speaker 1: definitely being visited by UFOs. It's been going on for decades.
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  Speaker 1: So I am pretty confident it's going to happen again.
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  Speaker 1: And again, airports all over the world are being visited.
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  Speaker 1: As far as I know, none have had the number
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  Speaker 1: of sightings. that LAX has had. That's another reason why
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do this presentation for you today. Because
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  Speaker 1: LAX is really at the top of the list in
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  Speaker 1: terms of airports being visited by UFOs. But this is
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  Speaker 1: definitely a thing. Something is going on here. It's got
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  Speaker 1: something important to say about how UFOs behave. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why I wanted to do this episode for you today.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed it. I really want to thank
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  Speaker 1: you once again for watching. I really appreciate it. And
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  Speaker 1: as I like to say, keep asking questions, keep searching
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  Speaker 1: for the truth, and most importantly, keep having fun.