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Black Maternal Health Week Part 2 · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 2: It's Lauren LaRosa and this is another episode of the
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  Speaker 2: conversations that shake the room. Baby Now, this is part
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  Speaker 2: two of my conversation with the Latham Thomas. She is
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  Speaker 2: a black woman out here advocating for us in these
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  Speaker 2: medical birth spaces.
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  Speaker 3: It's Black Maternal Health Week.
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  Speaker 2: This conversation is needed because there's so much information and
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  Speaker 2: resources we have, but we don't tap into it.
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  Speaker 3: So Tony, we.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about different things happening, people moving into processes and
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  Speaker 2: all these things.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that I thought about too, is like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I've never given birth, so this might be a
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  Speaker 2: stupid question, but worst case scenario, right, worst case scenario,
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  Speaker 2: right when you're planning for your child's birth and you're
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  Speaker 2: working with your doula, does adula have a conversation with
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  Speaker 2: you about, okay, if anything were to not go as planned,
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  Speaker 2: like are you making sure that like you know, the
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  Speaker 2: father the child or your family now have the parental rights.
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  Speaker 2: And because that was another thing I thought about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when I started thinking about all these things, because the
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  Speaker 2: person I mentioned to you earlier, who I went to
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  Speaker 2: school with some time ago, their child survived, like their
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  Speaker 2: child was born, but the mom didn't make it. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, they were married. So I think that that's
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  Speaker 2: the easy you know, how that's going to work out.
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  Speaker 2: But in a situation where a woman is either you know, single,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not wed. You know, I've done life planning
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  Speaker 2: with my mother and my grandmother, but I've never thought
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  Speaker 2: about how you life planned before you're about to go
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  Speaker 2: and have a baby, because it's such a happy thing
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  Speaker 2: and normally we associate that with like end of life,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: So there's birth doulah, it's supposed partum doulas. There's bereavement
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  Speaker 1: doulas as well. So these are people who are on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of that process when life is lost, right,
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  Speaker 1: so a baby is not born or if we have
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  Speaker 1: a still birth or a miscarriage, or you know, a
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  Speaker 1: baby like infant loss right, a baby's born, or babies
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  Speaker 1: passes away shortly after birth, right, a bereavement doulah is
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  Speaker 1: there to support that process. And in the instance that
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  Speaker 1: the life of a mother is lost, a bereavement doula
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  Speaker 1: is also there to support that process of helping a
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  Speaker 1: family with logistical support of processing documentation, and then and
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  Speaker 1: especially if a baby survives, then all manner of processes
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  Speaker 1: involved in helping a family get up to speed, right
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  Speaker 1: to adjust to that right, like who's going to be recaretaker?
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  Speaker 1: All these things? And then the other piece would be
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  Speaker 1: if the you know mother you know lives through the
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  Speaker 1: experience of loss, right, like what does it look like
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  Speaker 1: to process the loss of an infant right or a
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  Speaker 1: baby that everyone's reading, right, and you know when you
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  Speaker 1: start getting the phone calls and the gifts start coming
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  Speaker 1: in and you go home, you know, empty handed. So
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  Speaker 1: there's actually support built in within how we work to
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  Speaker 1: support both of those octions. Typically speaking, you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: never actually had a mother lost in in the hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of births I deliver that I've been present for right
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  Speaker 1: at deliveries for and I feel blessed in that there
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  Speaker 1: have definitely been God is good. There's definitely been near misses,
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  Speaker 1: and that people have had health scares, saying with babies
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  Speaker 1: right there health scares, but for the most part, like
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  Speaker 1: everyone's you know, been able to arrive healthy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's important for families right to be thinking
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  Speaker 1: about uh not, Like how do I say this? It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like you don't wanna you want to prepare
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  Speaker 1: for the blessing, right, you prepare for the positive, prepare
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  Speaker 1: for what you anticipate to be, what your life will become,
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  Speaker 1: and anticipate that with love and with intention and with
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  Speaker 1: excitement and joy. Because the biggest thing to remember about
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  Speaker 1: this is that birth is about joy. It's about the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of life, which is festive. It's a blessing. And
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  Speaker 1: with all the things that we think about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people like white women don't have to go to bed
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  Speaker 1: thinking about this, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to reassure if you're a mother or
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  Speaker 1: whether to be someone thinking about pregnancy. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: people to feel discouraged to get pregnant or discouraged to
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  Speaker 1: start a family or expand their family because of what
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  Speaker 1: they see in the news. Because what I also think
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  Speaker 1: is happening with the saturation of this information in the
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  Speaker 1: news is that it makes you feel debilitated, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I can do anything, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how to respond. It's sort of like similar to when
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  Speaker 1: we see lynchings right of black men, you know, strown
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  Speaker 1: and women shrown to the streets or whatever's happening to
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  Speaker 1: them as a result of state sanctioned violence. Right when
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  Speaker 1: we see that police violence or force excessive force. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we if we witness that, we feel like there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: we can do, but we also feel like it could
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  Speaker 1: happen to us. There's this feeling like that, And a
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  Speaker 1: similar feeling emerges when you see these stories a black
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  Speaker 1: women who are navigating the healthcare system and to experience
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  Speaker 1: this type of pain and harm and also life, right,
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  Speaker 1: you feel like, oh my god, this could happen to me.
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  Speaker 1: And so I want to remind us that while this
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  Speaker 1: is information, it's important to notice what happens when you
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  Speaker 1: actually take in that information. What does it feel like
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  Speaker 1: to actually internalize that information? Give yourself permission not to
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  Speaker 1: constantly take in every piece of news and every single story.
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  Speaker 1: It's so important for the awareness which is there now.
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  Speaker 1: People have the awareness right, people understand this happening. But
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  Speaker 1: if you know that it's not good for you emotionally,
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  Speaker 1: and you're in a space where you're cultivating new life,
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  Speaker 1: like you're in pregnancy, you can give yourself permission not
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  Speaker 1: to read about maternal deaths.
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  Speaker 3: Merchant.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even imagine that being the you know, the
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  Speaker 2: reading and the things that's popping up on your timeline
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  Speaker 2: and the you know. But it's like it's like almost
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  Speaker 2: kind of hard to escape it because it's like everywhere. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it is everywhere, and you know what's crazy, It's like
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  Speaker 2: I've always it's always been everywhere. I don't think I've
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  Speaker 2: ever not known about, you know, women not being okay,
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  Speaker 2: or even just how much of a blessing pregnancy and
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  Speaker 2: childbirth is. But now that I'm a being older, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I have friends who are actually experiencing things
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  Speaker 2: like even something that's little or I'm like personally experiencing
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  Speaker 2: things like you know, cis and you know, the ovary
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  Speaker 2: conversation in.
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  Speaker 3: Fribrard's and all these things.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like every day I'm like, yo, always that
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  Speaker 2: a test I can take to make sure I'm like
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  Speaker 2: good to have kids, because it makes you nervous about
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  Speaker 2: your you got your time clock you got you know,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta figure out the husband clock you got or
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  Speaker 2: whoever your partner is, Like, there's so much in so
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  Speaker 2: many boxes you have to check in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Continue remind you of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, and I think that there's Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: definitely like a pressure right to understand how to have
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  Speaker 1: these conversations. And many times too, people as they approach
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  Speaker 1: their providers about oh, should I be doing this, should
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  Speaker 1: be doing that? And getting information and sometimes there's like a.
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  Speaker 3: Lack of.
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  Speaker 1: A lack of rigor applied to the recommendations. So what
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  Speaker 1: I mean by that is sometimes people should be testing
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  Speaker 1: us for things that they don't like. Well, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: like I think about like cervical exams and you know,
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  Speaker 1: for pap smears. You're you know, sort of like they
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  Speaker 1: say every two years or so.
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  Speaker 3: But we know that.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen a trend towards black women developing cervical cancers,
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  Speaker 1: ovarian cancers, breast cancers, and aggressives way earlier than they
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  Speaker 1: should be. So like we see this like sometimes in
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  Speaker 1: like the thirties and forties, when we'll be seeing this
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  Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties. And so, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: screening that like they might recommend generally should be something
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  Speaker 1: that we say, no, I need this screening now, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's time for me to get the screening. I know
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  Speaker 1: that I'm due for it next year. Can you do
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  Speaker 1: it this year? I'm here for my annual now, can
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  Speaker 1: you do it now? Right? We think about perimenopause symptoms.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Black women are experiencing perimenopause earlier and also
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  Speaker 1: more intensely than white women do. And so when you
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  Speaker 1: think about that, it means that a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: factors associated with perimenopause, including things like you know, the
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  Speaker 1: night sweats and the brain fog, you know, period irregularity,
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  Speaker 1: mood lability and irregularity. You know, things like dry mouth
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  Speaker 1: and frozen shoulder and joint pain and all these things
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  Speaker 1: that can happen in this time. And you have no
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  Speaker 1: idea because you're not thinking about the fact that you're
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  Speaker 1: in your forties, right, you're thinking like, oh, what is
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  Speaker 1: feel like? You know, like you know, you just think, oh,
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  Speaker 1: if if I miss a period or something, that maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's perimenopausal. There's so many factors that contribute to that.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes a doctor won't even think about, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: your age might be a factor, And what's happening with
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  Speaker 1: your body right now as it produces less estrogen and
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  Speaker 1: less distosterone. Yeah, you might have some factors that change
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  Speaker 1: in your body that make you less comfortable or start
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  Speaker 1: to bring on symptoms that you never experienced before. And
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  Speaker 1: so for black women, and you know all of us,
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  Speaker 1: but particularly black women who suffer the most when we
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  Speaker 1: have these changes along the reproductive continuum, we really need
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  Speaker 1: the information, We really need the resources. We really need
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  Speaker 1: the physicians who are gonna work alongside us as we
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  Speaker 1: make sure decisions right as we think about what types
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  Speaker 1: of choices to make. And so what I would say is,
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  Speaker 1: you know how when you're about to get a new car,
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  Speaker 1: or you know the shoe that you've been looking ATISA
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  Speaker 1: for like three months before you put it in your cart,
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  Speaker 1: like whatever it is, you do all this research and
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  Speaker 1: all this on everything else that we purchase. When it
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  Speaker 1: comes to your health, I need you to have that
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  Speaker 1: same energy. I need you to keep the same energy
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to choosing your obgui n Right when
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  Speaker 1: it's when you're talking about pregnancy and fertility. Even moving
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  Speaker 1: terms of pregnancy, keep that same energy with the research
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  Speaker 1: and the provider, the hospital or care system that you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be with, the midwife you might work with.
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  Speaker 1: Interview interview, interview. Make sure that people feel like they're
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  Speaker 1: having to pass a freaking test with you, like make
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  Speaker 1: sure you get the information, but feel comfortable before you
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  Speaker 1: sign on to work with somebody, and remember they work
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  Speaker 1: for you. That's number one. Number two when you're moving
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  Speaker 1: through outside of pregnancy. So those of us who are
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  Speaker 1: not pregnant yet but we're thinking about what are you know,
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  Speaker 1: healthcare looks like right for women, like get access to
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  Speaker 1: the providers that you need, so you know, we have
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  Speaker 1: to get so we get to like our late thirties
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  Speaker 1: into early forties, we're getting mammograms. It's freaking mammogram, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, amazing.
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  Speaker 3: You believe mammogram should only be yearly.
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  Speaker 1: It depends, but because of because you know, most some
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  Speaker 1: of these cancers are slow moving. Typically, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years in between is okay, but like
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  Speaker 1: after forty if you have dense breast tissue, especially, what
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  Speaker 1: you might be recommended is to do a mammogram and
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  Speaker 1: potentially an ultrasound. I tried out this amazing ultrasound experience
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  Speaker 1: in La Lauren called b Sound. I'm like obsessed with it.
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  Speaker 1: It was a twenty minute screening they use instead of
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  Speaker 1: using like nasty ultrasound gel. You know that gel that
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  Speaker 1: they put on yourself at the actual Yeah, why would
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  Speaker 1: they use in lotion?
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  Speaker 3: I never even knew to think about an ultrasound.
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  Speaker 2: And I only ask you that because cancers is heavy
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  Speaker 2: in my family, especially for the women in my family.
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  Speaker 2: So I've always felt like it once once a year
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  Speaker 2: is not enough. I didn't even know that an ultrasound
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  Speaker 2: of what so ultra sound of your.
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  Speaker 1: Breast ultra so your breat tissue.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't even know that was possible, all the way.
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  Speaker 1: From underneath your armpit, because that's where your breast tissue
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  Speaker 1: extends to all the way to your your through this
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  Speaker 1: chest wall. Yeah, it's amazing. I'm writing down notes. I
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  Speaker 1: got some things that X some people about exactly. And
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  Speaker 1: what's good about the ultrasound is that it will detect
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  Speaker 1: things in denser breast tissue that you can't see in
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  Speaker 1: the same way during a mammogram. Yeah, and it's fast,
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  Speaker 1: it's effective, and what's cool about it is you can
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  Speaker 1: send the ultrasound with AI will basically build a model
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  Speaker 1: of your actual breasts, so when a radiologist is looking
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  Speaker 1: at the imaging, they'll see your breasts. Essentially, they'll be
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  Speaker 1: able to tell if there's anything that they should be
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  Speaker 1: concerned about and talk over it with you. But I
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  Speaker 1: say that to say like, there's options, and also there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of companies that are solving for these options.
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  Speaker 1: There's a really cool company that I learned about Functional
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  Speaker 1: Function Health, and they're doing all these amazing screenings. Like
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  Speaker 1: think about you know the fact that sometimes like we
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  Speaker 1: don't get the screens we need and our providers don't,
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  Speaker 1: you know, give us the opportunity to take some of
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  Speaker 1: these tests because of our types of insurance that we have.
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  Speaker 1: Right and people don't know this, but in this country
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  Speaker 1: there's insurance apartheid, which means that there's a gradient of
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  Speaker 1: good to poor service and it's on a scale of
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  Speaker 1: private insurance to Medicaid, And so if you have Medicaid,
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  Speaker 1: it's likely the service that you're going to get is
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  Speaker 1: not as good as service you would get if you
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  Speaker 1: have private insurance and with that, it does mean too
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  Speaker 1: that the same individual that's on either of those insurance
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  Speaker 1: offerings is going to have access to certain types of
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  Speaker 1: services or certain types of testing and diagnosis, right. So,
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  Speaker 1: which means that if I have something that needs to
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  Speaker 1: be screened for but I don't have I'm not entitled
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  Speaker 1: to be screened for it because of the insurance I have,
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  Speaker 1: then that locks me out of getting access to better
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  Speaker 1: care or preventative care, right. And so it's really important
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  Speaker 1: to understand when we're taking on, when we're doing the
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  Speaker 1: insurance piece and going to also specialists, that we really
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  Speaker 1: understand how we're working, whom we're working with, and what
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  Speaker 1: the testing process will cost and look like. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why having options that some of these new companies that
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  Speaker 1: are coming up are feeling the gaps for what our
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  Speaker 1: healthcare syste should actually be doing for us, right, and
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  Speaker 1: making it easier for us to get this information, because
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  Speaker 1: if you have the information, you can take it to
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  Speaker 1: any position, right and say here's what I you know,
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  Speaker 1: I did this testing already. Can we talk about my
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  Speaker 1: you know, my results here and a path forward and
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  Speaker 1: a plan for me? Right? And so some people even
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  Speaker 1: do it internationally. Some people are like leaving the country
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  Speaker 1: and going and getting comprehensive screenings and coming back with
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  Speaker 1: that information and talking to their providers. So that's that's
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  Speaker 1: a way too. That's happening. But I would say the
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  Speaker 1: best thing if you live here and are insured here
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  Speaker 1: to maximize here in New York and here in the states,
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  Speaker 1: right the States, US, Okay, yeah, in the US. Just optimize,
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  Speaker 1: optimize your plan and make sure that you are going
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  Speaker 1: in for the testing and the screenings that are that
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  Speaker 1: are applicable for you under your insurance, and also make
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  Speaker 1: sure that you're having, you know, these these candid conversations
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  Speaker 1: with your providers and work with people who are people.
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  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, you know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of positions. Nowadays, I'll have a cell phone that
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  Speaker 1: you can text them for appointments, or text them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: after hours, or share things that are happening with you,
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  Speaker 1: like I want to provide her like that that gives
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  Speaker 1: you their cell phone.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's not my mom's cancer doctor is He's
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  Speaker 2: like anything you need, call me all the time, like
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  Speaker 2: they like he I've that was my first time ever
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  Speaker 2: experiencing it, and I thought it was just because of
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  Speaker 2: how serious. Everything was for her at one point, but
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  Speaker 2: I appreciated it though because I was it was new.
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  Speaker 2: I was calling him all the time and he was
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  Speaker 2: happy to walk me through whatever. So even hearing you
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  Speaker 2: say that, I'm like, I've never thought about my obgyn
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  Speaker 2: and like, you know, I moved to a new state
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: and got an obgyn, but and she was she's been great.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But listening to you, I'm like, Lauren, you might need
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to interview a couple more because you don't have that
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: connection and you're at that age where you are wanting
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to start family planning, and just like really like, I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: really leaning into your health because I'm old enough to
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: recognize what happens when you don't exactly.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting about that, I had the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: same obgim for years.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I love her, love her, love her.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And then I got insurance to Mama Glow and so
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I was able to switch to a different provider that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: was covered through there in a center where all my
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: tests and stuff will be covered.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: So I just switched.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: When I was with her, I paid out of pocket
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: because she didn't take insurance and it was just an
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: annual visit. So for me, it was like the investment
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: in my health for once a year, paying out a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: pocket was fine. But let me tell you something. You
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: would sit in her office for three hours, like you
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: would go sit with her. That would be tea. Yeah,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you take your test. She was very gentle. Then you
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: sit in her office, she would talk to you. She'd
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: ask questions like she was really thinking about your overall health.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: And then it wasn't just like gynecological health. She's asking
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: about heart health. She's actings an intimacy. She's acting about
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: what you're eating, like how your sleep is going, like
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: all these things are connected.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And so girl, she had tea. She sold me at
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: she got a little Kima mihal. Okay.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: He's the other thing I want to say too, is
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't realize this is most
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: women in this country actually get even their primary care
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: needs met through their obgyness.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So I thought I was okay.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So I was talking to a friend, like I said,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I've been in New York probably about like two years now,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and I was talking to a friend and he was like,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you know, you haven't found a primary care doctor in
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: New York at And in my mind I was like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you know, he maybe he doesn't understand because he's not
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a woman. But I'm like everything I would talk to
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: my primary care doctor about, I feel like I want
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: to go to my obgyn for because at this age
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I need someone who like is thinking about me like
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: as a woman first, not just as a patient. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: obgyns in my mind, think woman first. But they're also
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: physicians as well well, so they're like that quarterback physician,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: but like it's specifically for a woman. So like I've
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: literally like been going back and forth about do I
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: need to go find a primary care doctor?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: And I know I've had you here for a while.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: My editors are want to kill me for how long
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: this interview is, but like maybe we can end up
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: here here about you know, do you need a primary
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: care doctor with an obgyn? And also too for people
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: that are trying to find new doctors that are trying
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: to find duelas, what are the websites?
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: What are the apps? Where should they go?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely so I have so many good recommendations for people
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: for you to interview. There's like so many amazing like
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: physician friends of mine and specialists that I feel like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you should talk to. So when we get off of here,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I'll put a list together for you of some of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: those amazing black female physicians and researchers and people who
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: are like leading to charge and making sure that we
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: are healthy, Okay, so that you could just do a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: whole woman's health like just I mean like deep dive, right,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And because people that need this information across the entire
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: from mencis to menopause, first period to last period. We
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: need so much information. So what I would say is
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: number one resource, of course, Mama Glow. Go to Mama
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Glow dot com. It's m A m A g l
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: ow dot com and there you can find a doula.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: You can Mamma Doula if you want to join our
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: doula training. Our next one is in May, so join us, right.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: We have payment plans, scholarships, all the things, but we
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: want more people joining this movement. We have three thousand
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: doulas we trained globally, including nurses as well, and for us,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: it's critical to have more of us on the out
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: in the world doing this work right, change in the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: face of what maternal health looks like in this country.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So come join us. If you are pregnant, thinking about pregnancy,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: if you're recently postpartum and you're needing support, we are
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: here for you. You can book a doula with us,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: so think about that as well. If you need breastfeeding
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: support and help, we are here for you. The other
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: thing is download our shared Decision Making tool. It's available
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: on the website or you can go to mamagogo dot
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: com backslash your birth and you will be able to
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: access the tool and resources there, and please download it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: It's a great resource with Mama Glow and ETNA. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the next thing I will say too is while while
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you're looking for providers or thinking about how you want
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to build your birth village, you first need to think
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: also about like your primary provider, who's gonna deliver that baby,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So whether that's gonna be OBG y N if that's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a certified nerves midwife, if you're going to be doing hospital,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: home or birth center right, so you need to explore
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: all of those options. And so what I would say
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: with that is doing a survey of sort of what's
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in your neighborhood where you live, the best hospitals, the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: best goalth centers, and the best home birth midwives in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: that area. Ask around, ask questions, download some apps. One
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of the apps I love, Like I said before, Earth app,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I R T H like B I mean birth without
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the Bee basically, And so the earth app is a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: great resource as well, and you can go in there
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and you can find out about different providers who can
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: serve you and basically people who have your profile, who
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: look like you, and what their experience was with those providers. Right,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: So it's literally like yelp. So that's a great tool
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: as well. And then I would just say more generally,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you know, start to consume content that also is affirming,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that makes you feel like you can do it. It's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: not just about like you know, understanding statistics and thinking
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: about maternal loss or thinking that something's gonna happen that
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't go your way, or that something tragic may happen.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: We know these are factors. And this is happening every day,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and it's happening to everyone, right, but black women are
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: suffering the most. But also there are many black women
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: every day that go into hospitals and have glorious, beautiful births.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So I want you to remember that joy is your birthright,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: that this experience has meant be joyful. Surround yourself with community,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and build your birth village also of your sister's circle
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: of aunties and friends who can help you laugh, cook
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: some food, get your dry cleaning, hold that baby while
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you take a shower, like build that community as well,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: because that's gonna be critically helpful to you when you
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: get on the other side. And to postpartum people. Forget
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that a lot of also maternal that's happen after people
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: leave the hospital and out of that is connected to
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: postpartum and post from depression and anxiety, and we can
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: really mitigate that by creating community support around individuals after
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: they have birth, after they get birthed. So make sure
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you find community as well prior to having your baby,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and we have lots of resources for that as well.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: But I just thank you for this opportunity to be here,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Lauren and to connect with you. I love you, I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: listen to you every day, and I'm just glad that
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: we got to connect here. So thank you, Thank you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna bad you gon put together that list
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: because I was gonna be asking you a lot of questions,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: but I think you know that list that.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Will be helpful, you know, to share with the audience
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Too, because I know I could ask you questions for
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: a whole nother two days.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, there are so many things.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm happy to be connected with you too, though,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And I think the work that you do is I
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: don't think people understand and give you guys enough praise
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and value. But as I get older and I you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: start thinking about different things and understanding you know, the
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: role of advocacy any anything in medication. Right, I'm like, Yo,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: doulas are like y'all are like guys get the earth,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: especially black women duelas.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, y'all are angels on Earth.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: So we appreciate you and thank you for educating us
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: this week and every day.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: This episode will go live during Black Maternal Health Week,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: but it'll be here for years to come for people
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to come and listen to and educate themselves on.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: So we appreciate you. You know. Mama Glow.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And if y'a are in New York, join us on Friday,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: which is a last save Black words for the health Week.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: April seventeenth, we are having a get together called Nurture
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and Network and it's going to be little Birth to writers.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: We have this amazing organization called Zenith that's gonna show
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: us a lot about technology around Berlin and how people
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: can utilize information and AI to support them to just
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: get more information to make better choices around birth too.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: So it'll be a really fun time in Brooklyn to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: learn more. But I just can't wait to see you
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: in person, Lauren, and thank you so much for this opportunity.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Again, of course, thank you for joining us into my Lowriders.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I hope you guys have been educated today, whether you're
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a man you know, standing next to your woman and
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: just you know, wanting to get the information or a
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: woman who was at that phase of her life where
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: she needs this information or passing it along as someone
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: who knows it's just great to know and great to
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: listen to from an expert. Important information, faction information from
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the expert. You guys know, we get into all of
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the conversations just shake the room here and hopefully this
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: one has not only shook the room for you, but
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: has opened up a room as well for you to
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: walk through.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: In clarity and no confusion. So thank you guys so
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: much for joining me. I tell you, guys, every single episode, you.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Guys should be anywhere with anybody talking about all of
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the things.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: But you, guys, choose you right here with me and
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: my lowriders.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys, and I'll set you in my
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: next episode.