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2134 -Love After Lockup- Relationship Rehab (s1e3) "Breakdowns and Breakthroughs" with Keisha · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Monday. It's mugshot Monday.
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  Speaker 1: It's therapy Monday.
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  Speaker 2: It's marriage counseling Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nothing funny is happening on this show Monday.
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  Speaker 3: It's, I mean, look, we'll try to do our best
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  Speaker 3: to make it funny, but they're not giving us much.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're watching on video, I am recording for
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  Speaker 1: you at another location in the guest room at my
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  Speaker 1: sister's house. And I just like literally everything was on
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  Speaker 1: the bed. I threw it on the floor. And here
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  Speaker 1: we are. We are. So you guys, this coming Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: October 22nd, the day after the best day in the
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  Speaker 1: history of time, October 21st. If you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Keisha and I and Kimberly will be doing our Pink
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  Speaker 1: Shade Live on the $ 10 level of Prime. And we
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  Speaker 1: will be talking about our good time that we had
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  Speaker 1: at Libra Fest. That's like the first time we were
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  Speaker 1: able to all get together to do it. So that's
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  Speaker 1: when we're doing it. So if you want to hear
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  Speaker 1: about that, join on the $ 10 level of Pink Shade Prime.
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  Speaker 1: That will be live on Thursday night, 8 p.m. Eastern time.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're on those levels, Supercaster Patreon, you get
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  Speaker 1: the email with the link. If you're on Apple, Ingrid
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  Speaker 1: has a way to like put it in Apple. But
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  Speaker 1: if you don't get it or can't figure it out,
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  Speaker 1: send us an email. Ingrid. at pinkshadepodcast.com. Info at pinkshadepodcast.com.
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  Speaker 1: Don't send it 10 minutes before because we're off email
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  Speaker 1: at that time trying to get ready. But send it
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  Speaker 1: between now, Monday, and Thursday if you're on Apple and
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  Speaker 1: you don't have the link. Otherwise, you will get the link,
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  Speaker 1: Supercast and Patreon. What else do I have to tell you, Keisha?
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  Speaker 1: I was at Ole Miss this weekend. Hotty toddy, we won.
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  Speaker 1: And got to see lots of people.
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  Speaker 2: It was fun. Good. We went to see Somber last night.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. All your dreams coming true. How was it?
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  Speaker 2: It was so good. We had like floor seats.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Scholar and I played a game of like how many
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  Speaker 3: black people were there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, OK.
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  Speaker 3: So so if it was like a black person who
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  Speaker 3: was with a group of white people, it was one point.
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  Speaker 2: OK. Scholar and I were double points because we were together.
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  Speaker 1: OK.
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  Speaker 3: There was two, three black girls together. So they got
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  Speaker 3: three points. Jace was like, so what was like the total?
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  Speaker 3: I said like seven points in total.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I think the three black girls together should have
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  Speaker 1: been double points. If you were counting a black person
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  Speaker 1: with a group of white people as only one point
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  Speaker 1: and the black girls together should have been double points.
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  Speaker 2: They were triple points. Skylar and I were double. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I got, okay. I got you. I got you.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. Okay. But it was so good.
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  Speaker 3: He, I mean, there's no shits and giggles. He's saying
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  Speaker 3: the whole time. Um, I was telling you earlier, I
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  Speaker 3: have COVID. I didn't think we were going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to go. But I got medicine in my system.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, we've been waiting for this.
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  Speaker 1: You have.
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  Speaker 2: So long.
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  Speaker 3: And the doctor says, you're not contagious. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to go. I'm like, I don't care if
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  Speaker 3: they have to will me in here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're going.
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  Speaker 1: I know. You really wanted to go to that concert.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you got to go. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And it kicked off our birthday week.
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: In the car, we were talking about my birthday and
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  Speaker 1: Dave said, well, we don't have anything to do next weekend.
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  Speaker 1: So why don't we get some people together for your birthday?
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  Speaker 1: I go, I don't care. I don't care. He goes, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: we've got to do something. I go, well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really care. I mean, on my actual birthday, he's getting
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  Speaker 1: back in town that night at like 1015 and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be knocked out with a foot injection that day.
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  Speaker 1: So that's going to be my day. So I'm just
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  Speaker 1: sort of like, eh, don't worry about it. And then
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  Speaker 1: he reminded me that last time we were in France,
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  Speaker 1: he bought me a purse and that was to count
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  Speaker 1: as my birthday gift. I was like, not really sure
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  Speaker 1: how that works, but all right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, price wise, I see where he's coming from.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. However, it does not count for this year.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: It was in May of this year. So anyway, I said,
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  Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't need a gift, anything I want.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't, there's nothing. Don't get me anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same way. I never ask for anything.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anything. If we want to go out
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  Speaker 1: to dinner with my friends, like that's what I like
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  Speaker 1: to do the most is just sit and have a
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  Speaker 1: Cosmo and hang out with my buddies. So if we
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  Speaker 1: do that, that'll be great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just want to go get a massage that
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  Speaker 2: day and dinner and a steak. I'm good. I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go get a massage the next day.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I did your birthday photo shoot though.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it, Keisha. I'm sure you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be incredible.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it either. Kind of nervous. She,
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't use filters or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, well you can apply it in post. I'm always like,
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  Speaker 1: give it to me and I'll try to apply it.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need a filter.
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  Speaker 2: I think I do, but she doesn't use filters.
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  Speaker 3: She's like really about like capturing like a person's true beauty.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just going to go with it.
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  Speaker 1: You look like a filter. Like, I mean, I was
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  Speaker 1: just around you in person last week. I can tell you,
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  Speaker 1: you look like a walking filter. You don't need a filter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so sweet.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You got nothing going on that we need filtering, girl. So, okay. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see those pictures.
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  Speaker 2: Me too. I'm nervous.
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  Speaker 1: And if there's one that you want Ingrid to use
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  Speaker 1: when she's promoting episodes and things, you send that to
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  Speaker 1: Ingrid and say, from now on, use this picture.
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  Speaker 2: Look, we did not do any of the things that
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  Speaker 2: Ingrid told us to do. She gave us a list.
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  Speaker 2: Of things.
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  Speaker 3: And we just went to New York and balled out
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  Speaker 3: and just sort of forgot what mom told us to
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  Speaker 3: do while we were there.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of good pictures were taken that she can
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  Speaker 1: cut and paste.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Ingrid.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. She should have
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  Speaker 1: gotten together with Kristen and made Kristen do it. I
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  Speaker 1: can't be in charge for everything.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Let's talk about this depressing episode. And also...
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  Speaker 1: I want to tell you guys, I did an interview
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  Speaker 1: with Dr. S, Justine, and Michael, and it is out
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  Speaker 1: today on the free feed. If you're on Prime, you
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  Speaker 1: got it on Saturday. But I wanted to wait until
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  Speaker 1: the episode aired that I discussed, because I'd seen it
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  Speaker 1: on the screener and discussed it with them, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to put it out until the episode aired,
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  Speaker 1: which is the one with Michael, which is this one
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  Speaker 1: that he broke down. So it was a pretty timely interview.
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  Speaker 1: interview because I had just seen the episode that aired
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  Speaker 1: on Friday with Michael really breaking down. And then I
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  Speaker 1: got to interview them. And if you guys didn't hear,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they gave me 15 minutes to interview the
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  Speaker 1: three of them. The three of them were sitting like
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  Speaker 1: in front of a MacBook, you know, not near. So
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  Speaker 1: the sound is not great, but that's just a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times how this happens. And so Christina did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of beautiful editing to make it better. And for
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  Speaker 1: the people that are on Prime, I've gotten lots and
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  Speaker 1: lots of comments saying that they thought it was great.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when I tell you 15 minutes, like, about
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  Speaker 1: seven minutes left, five minutes left, you have three minutes left,
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  Speaker 1: one minute left, wrap it up. I'm like, jeez. Damn. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Jeez. A lot of pressure right there. It's not enough time, but.
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  Speaker 1: So you can go watch it on YouTube or you
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  Speaker 1: can listen to it here. I would suggest watching it
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  Speaker 1: because Michael does burst into tears. while we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's also bursting into tears, all three
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  Speaker 2: episodes that we've seen of this show.
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  Speaker 1: This man has been waiting for somebody to send him
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  Speaker 1: to therapy so he could cry. I mean, God bless.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Poor thing. So I'm thinking he's cuter and cuter as
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  Speaker 1: we go, by the way, the sweeter he is, the
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  Speaker 1: cuter I think he is.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he has good fashion taste. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: saying the sweet, nor does his wife. No, they don't.
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  Speaker 1: They don't. Um, Okay. Love After Lockup, Relationship Rehab, Season 1,
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  Speaker 1: Episode 3, Breakdowns and Breakthroughs. Okay. So we open with
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  Speaker 1: Justine crying and holding her bands. This was from last
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  Speaker 1: week when they had to pull the exercise bands down
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  Speaker 1: with all the writing on them with their trauma. And
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  Speaker 1: she has told her story about what happened to her
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  Speaker 1: with this other guy that I asked her about when
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  Speaker 1: I talked to her if she was still in touch
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  Speaker 1: with this guy.
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  Speaker 2: No. No. Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Ish says, I'm really proud of you. You know, not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of women live to tell the tale, which
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  Speaker 1: he's so right about that. Like that was horrible.
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  Speaker 2: It would be her pretty bad. A lot.
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  Speaker 1: And so, you know, the worst time for a woman
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  Speaker 1: is when they're trying to leave. So I would one
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  Speaker 1: day like to hear the story of how she just
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  Speaker 1: decided to leave and got the fuck out of there.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's got to be a great story, too. And
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  Speaker 1: she should be very proud of herself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: For safely getting her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: For safely getting her and her children out of that situation.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Justine says, you know, I'll walk around with this every day.
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  Speaker 1: It feels very heavy. And he goes, well, we're about
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  Speaker 1: to get more heavy. Everybody, you're going to wear your bands.
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  Speaker 1: And the talking head, Michael says, you know, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's just not right for any man to have
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  Speaker 1: done that, you know, to a woman, to a partner.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Ish says, Trauma informs your opinion of yourself and how
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  Speaker 1: you see and navigate the world. So look at your partner,
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  Speaker 1: because now they're all together, and see if you have
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  Speaker 1: any shared trauma, right? So they're looking like they have this,
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  Speaker 1: they have that, that match. And he says, and now
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have that shared trauma really, literally by
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  Speaker 1: having a shared bond. You're going to tie yourselves together,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Now the people that each put their exercise
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  Speaker 1: band on their ankles, each had one and then tied
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  Speaker 1: those together, they had more space. But the people that
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  Speaker 1: put their feet into one exercise band together were literally
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  Speaker 1: like in a three-legged race they could not do anything yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it kind of like gives you a scale of
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  Speaker 3: smartness like who figured out how this would be easier
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  Speaker 3: and the ones who didn't yeah and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: why Alexis continued.
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  Speaker 2: To wear those bands because On her head? On her
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  Speaker 2: fucking head. It was at that moment I said, you
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  Speaker 2: know what?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they are made for one another because they are
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  Speaker 3: equally stupid. Now, she has a little bit educational smarts,
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  Speaker 3: but they're both dumb.
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  Speaker 2: Because why?
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  Speaker 1: Every time we saw her with that stuff on her head,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is very serious what we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: but we can't take you seriously.
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  Speaker 2: No. And did you see the way he was looking
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  Speaker 2: at her?
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  Speaker 1: Listen, he's already got stuff written all over his face.
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  Speaker 1: but that's permanent.
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  Speaker 2: At that moment, I'd rather look at his face. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was covering her eyebrows. It was going, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, girl, you can take them off your head.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone else is taking them off. Take them off your
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  Speaker 2: fucking head.
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  Speaker 1: You can do it around your arm. You know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty funny. I agree. Every time I'm like, and she
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  Speaker 1: still has those things on her head.
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  Speaker 2: And I know everyone's just like, who's going to tell her?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't, maybe she was trying to add some
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  Speaker 1: levity to be funny, but it just like made the
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  Speaker 1: serious situation like, I can't even look at you with
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  Speaker 1: that thing on your head, girl.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was crazy.
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• 12:03
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  Speaker 1: The talking head, Michael and Justine are together. Michael's like, okay,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: I might feel a little bit different about Dr. Ish now.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: And Justine's like, oh my gosh. So all the couples
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: now sit together and they're looking at what they have
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: together to talk. So we see Brittany and Marcelino walking
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  Speaker 1: really far apart because they tied their ankles really far
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  Speaker 1: apart so they didn't have to touch because they were smart.
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  Speaker 1: And they hate each other too. And so Kimberly sits
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  Speaker 1: and talks to Joey and he says he has the
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  Speaker 1: word betrayed on him because he felt betrayed by his
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  Speaker 1: own dad because he had to sell drugs for his dad.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually surprised that he even knew what the
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  Speaker 3: definition of betrayed was, because when I look at him,
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  Speaker 3: I see nothing behind the eye.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. And later on, I was thinking he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know what some of these words mean. I was, I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking. There's no way he does.
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  Speaker 2: No, everything is going over his head. Unless Kimberly is like,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't see it as whispering to him what
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  Speaker 2: it means. Yeah. And then he can answer the question. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's dumb. And then Lord knows how many fucking holes
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  Speaker 2: he has in his head just from doing drugs. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe he could have started off.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think that years of drug abuse have
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  Speaker 1: really pickled his brain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, um, you know, and you know, she goes, but
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  Speaker 1: you can understand now that you're saying this about your dad,
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  Speaker 1: how I never want my kids to be around anything
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  Speaker 1: like that. He goes, I get it. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Um, and she goes, that pissed me off because duh, you, you,
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  Speaker 3: you knew why he was in jail.
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  Speaker 2: You open a re your own personal rehab for him.
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  Speaker 2: He has continued to do drugs. He's gone back to jail. What? Huh?
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  Speaker 1: So quit bringing him back to your house. Right.
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  Speaker 2: You keep bringing him around your kids. When your kids
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  Speaker 2: have a dad, he may not be the greatest dad.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, but God damn, I don't, I don't get it.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: I was just like, Kimberly, you probably should have kept
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: that one close to the chest.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: And not said it.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Because it just gets worse later.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: She says, I don't want my kids being around anything
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: like that. And I don't want, and you can understand.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: And he says, yeah, he says, you know, I think
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: we're starting to understand where some of our behaviors are
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: coming from and what we did wrong. Huh? We?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: We?
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: We?
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: It's all you. We?
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: She hadn't done anything other than she's stupid. I told you.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: So she's just like, mm-hmm. So we're talking to him together.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: He says, yeah, I love Kimberly. You know, I want
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: to break all the bands off because it's stuff we
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: carry with us every day. And we not be able
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to break them, but we need to be able to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: understand them. Now, sometimes in these talking head, he makes
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: a little sense.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't last long.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I know, but it doesn't, God bless.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: It's very short-lived.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: So we see Brittany and Marcelino sitting, and he says,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: she goes, so what happened when you had to explain
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: your bans? And he goes, I forgot. And she goes,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: now why do you do that? You know, why don't
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you just say, I don't want to talk about it?
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And he goes, okay, so what did you explain? I
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: see sexual betrayal. And she goes, yeah, I don't think
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you understand that whether it was physical or not, what
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: you did hurt me. And maybe deeper than the average person,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: because I was abused for 12, I was abused for
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: years and bore two children from this abuse. And then
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: she reminds us, and we know this story, but every
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: time she tells it, a new detail comes out and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: we're just like, what the fuck? She says at 12,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I ran away. And shortly thereafter, hooked up with a
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: 30 year old man who abused me and got me
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: hooked on meth. And for one full year, I never
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: saw daylight. I was locked in a hotel room. And
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I remember just lying on a blanket, crying and starving
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and asking God to help me and a God I
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: didn't believe in to please help me. And this man
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: was sitting next to me, smoking meth. And she goes,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: she just goes, yeah, I went through a lot. I mean,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it's just, it's a wonderer. that she is standing and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: thriving and is such a great mom and trying so
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: hard to work through all this stuff.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And I, people would have used that as an excuse
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: to just be a fucking horrible person.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: And I really do wonder if we're going to get
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: into her mom. Like, I wonder if that's going to
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: come up. Cause I'd like to know.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Like, it's a piece of shit.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, sure.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: So she tells Marcelina, you don't know how hard I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: had to work on myself to be able to trust you.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: You know, I trusted you and I loved you and
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I never let any of that shit bleed over into
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: our marriage. And then that's why when you hurt me,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: it took me to levels of anger that were uncontrollable,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you know, with the screaming and the hitting and the
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: resentment and thinking I'm never going to be good enough
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: for you. And he hugs her and she puts her
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: head on his shoulder and And she cries and said,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you left me alone in our marriage. I was alone.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And I was alone to try to pick myself up again.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And then she just cries and he is trying to
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: like console her.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I just, I don't want to do
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: this dude. And she just takes off the bands and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: walks off. And that's surprising because normally it's him doing that.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think actually now she's able to verbalize.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she was able to verbalize it before,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: but with this like three days of therapy, she's like,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: this is why I was so mad at you because
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you don't understand what I went through. And then what,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: what you did triggered that, you know?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: So it was interesting.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Number one, I see why Marcelino is a poker player
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: because that man has a fucking poker face.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he does. You cannot tell what he's feeling, what
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: he's thinking or anything.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Like later on, he says something like, I didn't know
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: how bad it was with her. She wrote a fucking
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: book about it. Did you not read the book? There
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: was a whole TV episode where she broke everything.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Did you not watch that? I just find it hard
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: to believe that she didn't tell him everything.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I think he just.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: It's weird. He was being a man and didn't fucking listen.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: But you're right. I was thinking that the same... episode
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: about how his face lets you know nothing.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Nothing.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Nothing at all.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Thank God the face is pretty because shit.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And so when you do see those rare instances when
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he's laughing, you're like, whoa.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: It's weird. It's weird.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like he needs a girl's trip.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Because he was with the girls. I'm like, this is
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: the happiest that we've ever seen this man. Book him
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: a cruise with all girls, like a Disney cruise, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: let him have fun.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Put the Mickey Mouse ears on him. Like he needed
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that therapy. Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: He really did. Completely. And it's funny. I was thinking
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the same thing. I was like, this man never cracks. Never.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: So she walks off. And the talking head Marcelino in
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: his dead behind the eyes face says, I'm not a therapist.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to deal with trauma, not the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: kind Brittany has. I don't know how to deal with
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the trauma that she brought to the relationship. I don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: know if I can be her husband in the way
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: she needs me to be. Well, no, you can't. I mean,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you've been separated for two years. I mean, you know.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing about it is that, you know, someone
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: like Brittany needed immediate therapy after the fact. Because I
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: feel as though when you've been through that much trauma
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: and then you find someone who loves you, expectations that
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you have for that person are unachievable because they become
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: your everything. And there's no way that any just regular
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: person can understand what she's been through.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: You just, you can't. I mean, that is.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Something that she really needed to work through herself instead
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: of getting in a relationship, which I get it, but
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: that's a lot. And I still don't think she's like,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I still don't know if she's been a therapy about it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I don't either, but she does not do, they're not
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: doing interviews. So I don't know. Julius and Alexis talk.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: And I just said, she looks fucking crazy with these
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: bands on her head, but trying to have a serious conversation.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe she forgot they were on her head.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: No, there's not. Anyway, those things are like, they grab
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: at your hair and stuff. They're like, they hurt, you.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Know, this is a person who lives with Julius.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: That's true. So she says to him, like, wow, all
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: this has kind of turned out to be a good thing.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, a lot of the time I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: don't talk. I'm just in my own zone. And she goes,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: but you shouldn't suppress how you feel. And then she goes,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: but we both need to work on that. She says,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I act out of emotion and I fire to the fire.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: And that comes from my childhood. I always wonder if
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I'm enough. And she says, I want to come To
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a solution of how to fix this. Because it should
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: be us against the problem. Not the two of us
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: against each other. But in my mind. He is the problem.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: In my mind.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: He is the problem. But I also feel as though
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: he's her show pony.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah I know.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I mean I just do. I mean it's unfortunate. That
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like if he looked differently. She would not.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Accept the same.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Tolerate this behavior.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah I think she thinks he makes her look. more
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: attractive because it's like, ooh, she got him.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Even though to people like us normal people, that shit
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: ain't cute.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I could see because when they showed pictures of him
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: when he first went in before he scribbled all over
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: his face, he's a very good looking guy.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but now he's dead behind the eyes and got all.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: The shit on his face.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Then he has his dress that kind of cover up
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: his face a little bit.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: They look like they have sucked each other's souls out.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: They both do.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He looks just as bad as she does. Like either
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: one of them looks like they're living a good life.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: No, they both seem very unhappy.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: So Melissa and Louie talk and she says, so what's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the difference if I'm affectionate or not? And he goes,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: it's a huge difference. It's showing the other person that
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you're wanted. Like this morning I tried to kiss you
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and you pull away from me. Like, why are you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: not affectionate? And she goes, that's what we're here trying
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to figure out. And she goes, I don't know. Maybe
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: it's because being affectionate never got me anywhere. He goes,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: but this is all stuff from your past relationships. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, I thought having all this stuff, having
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: this life was like a great thing, but it turned
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: out I was just being controlled. And then I decided,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you know, going back to the guy locking her out,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: she goes, then I would never depend on anybody. And
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the only person I can ever depend on is myself.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And he goes, okay, so how can we fix it?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: And she goes, that's why we're here. I don't know.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor. And he goes, why can't we
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: just talk? Like, why do you have to go right
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to that and be a smart ass? Like, I feel
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: like you're trying to push me away. And you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: how much can one person take?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what, while they're trying to figure
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: that out, we, the viewers are all trying to figure
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: out why does it look like Melissa's working the fry
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: station at McDonald's?
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Her face is so greasy.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Why was it so greasy?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: They weren't hot.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: No, because no one else's face looked like a grease ball,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: but hers is just getting greasier and greasier with each episode.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Like her face is, I don't know, like the tip
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: of her nose looks like there's no blood circulation to it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Well, she definitely had a second nose job and fixed
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it because the first nose job, and you guys, this
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: is like all on the show. She wasn't happy with it.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And then anytime she would post, she would block out
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: her nose because she obviously got it fixed to show
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: that she fixed it, which is great. She wasn't happy
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: with it. She got it fixed. It wasn't what she
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: wanted it to look like. She got it fixed. But
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I think probably she's recovering from that. And I wonder
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: if she has something. Oh, sorry. I hit my microphone.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I wonder if she has something else done to her
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: face before she went like a laser or a peel.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And she's literally just putting an aquaphor on it because
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that's her walk.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Time it right so it'd be fresh and done.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Well, you didn't ever watch Real Housewives of New York,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: but Ramona on there one time literally went on a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Mexican vacation to a retreat in Mexico two days after
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: she had gotten a peel and her face looked red
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like when my face looked red after that peel. You
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: cannot go in the sun. Your skin has been burned off.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: You cannot take that raw skin in the sun. She's like, what?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I just thought I'd wear a hat. And she looks insane.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: So some people, sometimes people just don't time it right.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: You know? So I'm, so I'm wondering if she is
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: trying to treat that new skin and because it's, there's
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: no sun there wherever they are, but nobody else is
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: hot and sweaty.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: No. And we're used to her being like almost unhealthy
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: looking white because she put so much powder on her face. Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: To go to this, it's just like, what the fuck
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: is going on?
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Like, it's just, I didn't understand the grease. I didn't
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: understand the greasiness. I was like, either she has slathered
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Aquaphor all over her face or she is premenopausal and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: just sweating her ass off.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: It looks more like grease than sweat. And I wanted
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: to say, just listening to the two of them talk.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, she went so hard to get Louie.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: For her to like pivot. And it's almost like she
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: can't stand him. And I'm thinking to myself, she was
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: in love with Louie, who was the bad guy. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: here we have Louie 2.0, who's Mr.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Raw, raw, raw cheerleader, physical fitness. I want to pump
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: everybody up and be positive.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And she doesn't like it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: It could be. Unless they're faking it. And I had
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a smidge of thinking that during this particular scene, because
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: they're both doing that smile talking a little bit, like
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit, like they're faking it for the cameras. I, I,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see. So then we see Justine
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and Michael talking and she's saying, you know, I know
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of my baggage holds me back. And Michael
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: tells us way before prison, I was numb to my
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: feelings and I shut people out way before prison. He
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: says prison just heightened it, you know, made it worse.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So Justine says, I only lash out at you because
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I'm I know that you'll never walk out. He goes,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that. And he says, and I don't
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: think you really believe that. And that's why you don't
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: trust me fully. And she goes, no, I don't think so.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: And he goes, that's how I see it. And now
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you try to shut me down. But if I did that,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you'd be all mad. And she goes, I disagree with you,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: but I'm still here letting you talk. I didn't take
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the bands off and walk away and run back to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the room. I'm still connected to you. I'm still letting
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you talk. I think that's a great point because he's like, Oh,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: but if I disagree with you, you know, and she goes, no,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm still talking. We're still having the conversation. He
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: disagrees and then just runs and gets pissed and goes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I'm leaving. You know?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: She didn't do a Britney.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: She didn't take the pants off and run and say,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I can't do this shit.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Poor Britney. I mean, Marcelina was trying to hug her
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and she's like, I can't take it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, she still really loves him. I really do.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think, but I don't think she wants
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to be married to him anymore. I think that one
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: betrayal was too much. And she, she would always be
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: looking over her shoulder, always be looking at his phone,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: always wondering what he was doing, you know?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's sad.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: So everybody is all sitting together to talk and Alexis
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: still has the bands on her face. And, um, literally
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: they're on her face, literally on her face, on her face. And, um,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: They're all laughing a little bit, you know, but, you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: kind of joking around. So Kimberly says, they're all kind
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of joking around. And Kimberly says, you know, we all
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: know what happened to us, which is interesting, but we
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: didn't know how it was coming out. Like, look at us.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: We're doing the work. And they're all like, yeah. And
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: then we see Marcelino walk in with no bands and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: they have this dramatic music. And he's like, we out
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: of here tomorrow. And he literally does have the poker face.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And they're all like, no, no, we're not done yet.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: We've got so much more to do. And he obviously
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is joking, but because Brittany comes in and she sits down,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: she's also got her bands off and she sits down
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: next to him and she touches his hand and they
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: hold hands and They do. And it's very nice. It's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: very nice.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And they are smarter than the rest of them who
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: still have bands on. Yeah. Dr.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Ish comes in and goes, okay, listen, what we learned
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: is we all push stuff down. There are conversations that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: we don't have. So let's take the bands off, you know.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Thank God. He's talking to you.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I like it. I think it's a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: good look. He says, see you tomorrow. And he walks out.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I have to say this. Mm-hmm.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: As someone who has followed Dr. Ish, I'm not quite
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: sure what is going on with his wardrobe.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I like the sweater he has on the next day
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that's just kind of gray with the one big flower
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: All of his outfits have been very zesty. And we're
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: used to him. Like, he is a sweater guy.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: He usually is in, like, neutrals or a suit. I...
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: He just... I don't know. I don't know if he's
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: trying to be hipper because it's a different crowd.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe La Roche is his new stylist. I don't know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: but who is this new feller with all these bold
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: colors and things like that going on?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Like, okay.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I do like the one he has on the next
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: day though. But in the talking head, Marcelino says, I'm
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: trying not to give up, but it is a long road.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: So we see them all like chatting in the kitchen
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and Brittany's making a joke like, damn, like I'm so
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: stressed out. I can't even have a drink. Like it's
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: not fair. But Marcelino takes Michael outside and Michael's like, man,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: do you really leave it? He goes, no, I'm staying.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: He goes, here's the thing about Brittany. You know, I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: knew what she went through, but not like that. And
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, really triggering for her what I did,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: but we're trying to work it out. And then Marcelino says,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: spend the time with my besties, all the girlfriends today,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: with the women. You know, I learned that all of
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: them are just telling us what we need. They're telling
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: us what we need. And he says in Spanish, and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: your wife, if you will allow me. And Michael goes, yeah, yeah, okay.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: But he's already starting to cry. And Marcelino goes, softer.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: You got to be softer. And Michael says, I don't
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: know how to be soft. Like, that shit kills me, bro. Well,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I'm excited.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: That that came from Marcelino, considering he's not soft.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's hardcore to the floor. He never breaks a smile, nothing.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Now, you have to remember, this is a person who's
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: never been to prison. So he's the hardest out of
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: all of them.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: He's very. He's hard to read, everything.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: And Marcelina says, I know, I know. And Michael just
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: falls into his arms crying. And Marcelina says, with her,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: she needs you to be a little bit softer. And
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Michael's like, I don't know. I don't know. And he says,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you have to try. You have to just try. Because
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: not trying is damaging. He's like, okay. And he hugs
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: him again. I mean, poor Michael. He's really going through it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: He's really going through it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: And I think there's a lot of stuff happening behind
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: the scenes that we just don't know yet.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: There's definitely lots of stuff they're not showing us. I
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: think some of these sessions that they're doing are lasting
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: way longer because like the one coming up where they
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: throw the rock on the ground, we only see one
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: person's side. We don't see both sides. And you can
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: see that tons of things have been broken on the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: ground that we haven't seen. So they're definitely just showing
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: us what they think are the highlights.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Right. We're way nosier. Like we like a lot of details.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: We'd like both. We'd like all the information.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So talking to him, Michael says, you know, I'm not
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: a weak person. I'm a strong motherfucker. And that's where.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Everywhere I go.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, what's what he means before this, I think.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And he goes, and that's why everywhere I go, that
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: shit radiates. And sometimes I feel like I'm not even
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: equipped to be in a relationship. But I mean, when
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you think of what his persona was as a very
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: high level fentanyl dealer, like super high level drug dealer.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And you know, you're always watching your back and you've
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: got this, you know, rapper, you know, mentality of like,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a rapper. I'm hard. I'm for the street. So
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you see all the pictures of him where he looks
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: all hardcore. You know, that's, that is what he radiates.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Um, it would be hard.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Did you hear the rumor? We all know that his
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: 15 year old sister passed away, but, Did you hear
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that the rumor is that she died of a fentanyl overdose?
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I did not hear that.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I want somebody to take to the Reddit to find
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: out because he mentioned his sister on our interview. He
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: mentioned his sister dying. I did not mention it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Because I said.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a GoFundMe to get her for the
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: funeral expenses.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I said, how are you doing with your family?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And he said, fuck my family. Okay. So that's the answer.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: So there's some things to work through there. But you know, I,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: when I was kind of trying, when I was looking up,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: like I looked up on Reddit, like Michael's sister, Michael's
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: sister that died, you know, I was trying to find,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I couldn't find anything, but what kept coming up was
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: his sister that we saw on the show. That was
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the lesbian that was married.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: That she was also arrested along with him for the dealing.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: So it was a family.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Never heard that. Never heard. I'm not surprised though.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: It was a family affair. And like I've said before,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: it seems to me from viewing the show that his
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: whole family benefited from his success. Of course.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Look, that's what happens most of the time when you
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: have a drug dealer in the family. Like everyone knows
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: they're doing something wrong, but oh, mom's house is getting
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: paid for. Oh, little sister got a new car. So
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: everyone is kind of lets it slide, you know? And
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: then what happens is that person gets sent to prison.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And then who's taking care of them now? They need
• 36:06
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• 36:10
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• 36:12
  Speaker 1: been a member since January of 2019, and I'm on
• 36:16
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• 36:19
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• 36:21
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• 36:24
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• 36:27
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• 36:30
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• 38:06
  Speaker 1: slash pinkshade. So Marcelino and Brittany talk and he says,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know where we went wrong. I never gave
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you any reason to be so fierce. And she says,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many times I can say this.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: After you hurt me the way you did, I lost
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: control of myself. I spiraled. I apologize. I am sorry.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I should have never put my hands on you. Never.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to find something in my life where
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I felt safe and I thought I had it with you.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And then it was ripped out from under me. But
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I do feel like they're really hearing each other and
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: we're making progress.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: For the first time. Yeah. Even if the result is
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: them not being together, which we know they're not.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: They still have to get along for the sake of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the kids. Yeah. I mean, who wants to go pick
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: up their kids and be like, oh, I got to
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: see this fucking bitch.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Go get my kids. Yeah.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Happens every day of the week. I mean, you know.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: So he says, I apologize for what I did. I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: know you didn't deserve it and I didn't deserve it,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: but it is what happened. And I'm sorry you had
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to go through what you went through. And I want
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you to know that. And she says, I'm so grateful
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: we could hear each other and apologize to each other
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and really feel it. You know, she says, I had
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a breakthrough I didn't know I needed to have. And
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: so I feel like really she's telling the truth, like, wow, this.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Day three, Joey's in the kitchen cooking with his sunglasses on,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: which is always suspect.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Joey, there's no need to hide behind the sunglasses. We
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: all know.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And he says, what is this cooking these eggs make
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you think about? And they all laugh like, this is
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: your brain. This is your brain on drugs.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Brain on drugs. Yeah. Especially his. Especially his.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: If you guys are like super young, that was an
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: ad that we used to have back in the day.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: It would be just an egg. And they say, this
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: is your brain. Then they would put it in a
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: hot pan and it would start to fry and it
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: would say, this is your brain on drugs. Let me
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: tell you what is an effective ad campaign because we
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: all remember it. And then there was.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: The one, I learned about watching you, dad. I learned
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: about watching you.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. How did you learn to do these drugs?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I learned from watching you, dad.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I learned from watching you. We're so old.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: We're so old. Oh, everybody. Current references only.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Now we're in Justine and Michael's room and he's got
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a suitcase on the bed. So it's unclear. Is he
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: like packing or is he like looking for his underwear? Right.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: And so she says to him, how was your group?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And so we don't know if they had a group
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: that morning.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And I feel like there was, I feel like there
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: were all these breakout groups and we didn't see that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I don't want to talk about that shit.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going outside. And she goes, And she goes, okay, well,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: how can I find you when I'm all set? Because
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's like they had separate groups that morning
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and then they were going to do something together. And
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: he goes, this place ain't that big. So she goes, okay.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: He can most definitely spot her in her outfit, no
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: matter where he is on the property.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: He can spot her.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It's a beacon.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I was just like, she's looking like a.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Black gym Barbie, which is fucking neon pink. And then
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: the glasses that look like she got it from the
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: local 7-Eleven.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: It was a lot. It's definitely 80s workout Barbie.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: It's a Jane Fonda and one and two and three
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and four.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And so in her talking head, he goes, I woke
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: up aggravated and I woke up thinking this shit can't
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: help me, you know? So she walks out in her
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Barbie get up and is like, Like, hey, what's up? Like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: don't leave me hanging. And he goes, I don't give
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a fuck. That's it. And she goes, so, okay. So
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I'm left to just decode what's going on. Like, she's like,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I literally.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: No idea what's going on.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening. She goes, so I'm just
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: left to decode what's going on. He goes, you can
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: just decode yourself. You don't have to decode me. I'm
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: checked out just to let you know. And she goes,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to let me know. I mean,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I can tell. And when did you check in? You know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: great point.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: And he's doing this, talking to her like crazy in
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: front of all these people.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: And everybody's like looking over like, what the fuck's going
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: on over there?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: And my thing is always do not embarrass me in
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: front of all these white people. Like, I'm really big
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: on that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Okay. Do not do that to me. Okay.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: So Louie yells, hey, Mike, Mike, come get some breakfast.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: And so all the women are like, what's going on?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: What's going on? And we see him and he's packing
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: in the room and she cries. She goes, all I
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: said was, how was your group? Like, that's all I said.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: So she calls her mom, which is interesting. She doesn't
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: really get along with her mom.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: She always says how much her mom's never there. Her
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: mom doesn't pick up the phone. Her mom doesn't do this.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Their dynamic is weird because we know for a fact
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that Sherry helped her financially a lot with those kids. Yeah.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. We also know Sherry
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: likes to hit the bottle too. I did work.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I asked her about Sherry on the interview, too. So
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: so so she says, Mom, how can I do the
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: program with him if he won't do it with me?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: We see Mike. He's like taking off his mic pack.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: He's trying to give it to production. So Louie's like,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: come talk to me. So Louie walks off with Michael
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and Michael is like, you know, I don't have a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with me. It's her. It's her.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: You hear me, Justine? Fuck you. It's crazy. It's crazy.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: So I think he's trying to say like, I'm fine.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I don't need any help. That's what he's saying.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Kimberly says to her, why is he so mad? And
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Justine goes, I don't know. It's so embarrassing. Like, I
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: don't know. She keeps like turning around. So she's saying
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to the girls, if he leaves, like, don't come back
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to our house in Vegas. It's done. You know, I
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: just hold him up all the time, but I'm underneath
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and nobody ever comes to help me.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you add on nine kids.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Exactly. It seems like five live with them. I think.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Right. Because Kylie's, of course, at school. And I think
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Melanie's at school.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: So I think.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: So that's seven. And then the two little ones still
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: live up north. Yeah.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I think the two little ones. And then her two
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: middle ones, Bentley and.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Santana.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Santana live with her. And then one of his. Because
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: that makes five.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Michael Jr.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe Michael Jr. So Michael is talking to Louie and
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: he's like, this is just too emotionally draining. I'm feeling
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: emotions for me and for other people. Like, I'm giving
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: a fuck about Brittany and Marcelino and you and Melissa.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Why do I give a fuck? I don't even know y'all, bro.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I mean, it's true. It's
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of emotion. He needs to go wash his
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: hands with some salt. It's just too much going on.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: And Louie goes, look, you got a lot of shit
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: going on inside you. And Marcelino goes, it's called being
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a human, man. And Louie goes, man, when do you
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: ever let yourself just like let it out how you feel?
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Like you just think about how much shit you got
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: pent up inside. And Marcelino, he wanted to leave, but
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: he's still here. And Michael goes, I know. I was
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: just talking to him, man. I'm the biggest fucking hypocrite.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to take it out on her, dog.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to take it out on her. Well,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: four seconds ago, you just yelled fuck you to her
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: for no reason.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: So then he just collapses onto Louie and hugs him.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: There's so much trauma, I think, just from his childhood alone.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: And nobody's safe. Nobody's safe from the hugging either. He's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: going to get you.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, God, no. He bear hugs. I mean, and that's
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of man right there.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Louis is a little.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: You know, thank God he pumps iron because, I mean, just,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: you know, it's a lot.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: It's a lot.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And he's snot cries and everything.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. He doesn't even get a tissue.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. So Dr.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Ish comes out and goes, Hey, what's going on here?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: And Louie goes, yeah. So he's struggling because he's feeling
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: his own stuff, but everybody else's. And Dr. Ish goes, yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you have empathy and we all struggle, but you, where
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you lived, um, where you lived a life where you
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: had to push everything down to maintain. Now this is
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: what happens because you live that life where you pushed
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it all down and now you're letting it all out. And, um,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Michael says to Dr. Ish, we are broken. How do
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: two broken people build a foundation? And it says slowly,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: like brick by brick, that's how you do it. So
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Michael goes to talk to Dr. Ish alone and he said,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: he's bawling, crying. And he says, Justine has been such
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a blessing to me and I can see how broken
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: she is and I can't fix it. And I keep
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: adding to it and I have no, idea why she
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: stuck around and i feel like maybe i should leave
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: to salvage what's left in her sort of.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Like he's trying to sabotage the relationship and.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: So right it's like what joey said i feel like
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: sometimes i should just leave and that's what's best for
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: them you know.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Well i would have left if he yelled across the
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: yard fuck you i know well you ain't got to
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: worry about me.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Anymore so um Justine is saying to Melissa and Kimberly,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: she's like, I just want to fix him. And they're like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that's not your job. That's not on you. And she says,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: nobody is going to come and help him. Nobody. And
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: she says, I just want to make the best of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: this experience. And I don't want to go back home
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to the same shit. Like we've got to stay here,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you know, and fix this.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: So, but here's what, you know, when she's saying nobody's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: coming to rescue him, I think she's like his whole
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: family abandoned him because now he's not making a million
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: dollars a year selling drugs.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: And that's what happens. That's exactly what happened. Yeah.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: So all the people he was supporting now don't support him. Yep.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: So Dr. Ish tells Michael, as a guy, we want
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: to put the fire out, but you got to let
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: this one burn. Like, what do you think she needs
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the most? And he says, love and support. And Dr.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Ish says, love. And Michael goes, I do love her.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: And Dr. Ish says, that's why she stays. Because you
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: can see that you're full of love and you're feeling it,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: not just for her, but for everybody here.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: So you're not a narcissist because you're feeling everybody else's pain.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Here, right? Yeah. And crying about it too.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Just crying about everybody else's problems.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: He's crying for everybody.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: He's Brittany comes to the door and goes, Hey, I
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: don't want to interrupt, but like Justine is really struggling
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: out here. Can she come in?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Well, she wasn't struggling as bad as Michael was.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: So she comes in and she sits down next to him.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Now they're both in their stupid sunglasses, but she takes
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: hers off and then he takes his off. Thank God.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Thank God.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, we are not on a show like
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the traders or something where you're supposed to be in
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: a getup. Do you know what I mean?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Look, say that they were, these two have no sense
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: of fashion whatsoever.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: God bless.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: They don't. And the sad part about it is, is
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: that they try. You can tell they try.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: They try. And I don't think that's sad. I think
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: that's positive. um, Mike says, okay, so Justine comes in.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: So she tells Dr., he says, what are you feeling?
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: She goes, confused because I have no idea what I
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: did wrong. And Dr. Ish says, Michael's just confused about
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: everything he's feeling, everyone's pain. And for a large part
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: of his life, he had to shut that all down.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: And you can't care and do the things he was doing,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: can you?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: So Michael just has his head in his hands crying.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that is coming back
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: to him too. Like now that he's out in the,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: out in the world and he sees the opioid epidemic
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: that we're in and that he was such a large
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: contributor to that, a huge contributor to that. And now
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: he's thinking like, as all these things are coming up,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: you do wonder if he's like, what the fuck have
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I done to the world? I've helped this problem.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: That if the rumor is true that his sister was
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: using fentanyl, He's got that on his back too. Now
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: my sister is a, and I don't know if this
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: is true or not. It's just what I keep seeing. Yeah.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: And then he probably knows there's something going on with
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: his sister.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: So, and then here's the thing that you cannot tell
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: me they don't struggle financially.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Those two for sure. They do. Yeah.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Especially when you're so job is being a Las Vegas rapper.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Well, he's a manager at like a warehouse.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Remember?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Is it still?
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's got like a nine to five job.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, last time we saw him, he had a
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: nine to five job. Now they're, they're trying to do
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: their rap stuff on the side and that's fine. Everybody
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: should have dreams, but he does have like a nine
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: to five job. I don't think she does because there's like,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: what would be the point? So many kids.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: So, um, so, you know, like he says, you can't
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: do what he did and care about anything. So he's crying.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Michael's crying. And Dr. Ish says, he's not just feeling
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: it for you. He's feeling it for himself and for
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: everybody here. So she goes over like right away and
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: sits right by him. And she says, if you're feeling
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: those heavy emotions, just talk to me. Pull me aside.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: You can tell me everything. You can cry. You can scream.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: You can break things. You can kick shit. And he goes, no,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I can't. And Dr. Ish says, no, he can't because
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: he knows what you've been through. And that makes him
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: feel like shit.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, so much here, so many layers.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: And here's what now that we're talking it through. I
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: think that when Dr. Isha says he's not just feeling
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: it for you, he's feeling good for everybody here. I
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: think when she said to him this morning, what happened
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: in your group? I think they had had like a,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: like a before breakfast coffee group.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: And one of those guys said something and he was like,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: this is my new friend and I'm really feeling it
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: for my friend.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: And he just doesn't have a way to get it out.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: So I think when she said, what happened in your group,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: that just set him off. And it was something from
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the morning, not from the night before. Right.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just glad we're not playing take a shot every
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: time Michael cries.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Take a shot of water. Get hydrated. Yeah.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: So she says, you know, you could kick, you could scream.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: He says, no, I can't. And Dr. Ish says, he
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: knows what you've been through. And that makes him feel
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: like shit. And he goes, you're never going to be
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: happy with me. You're just not.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: And she's trying to touch him and he's like pulling away.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And Dr. Ish says, but Michael, that's your narrative talking,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: isn't it?
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: And so again, somewhere along in this therapy, Dr. Ish
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: has explained to these people, like your inner narrative is
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: telling you one thing that's not the truth on the outside.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: But I don't... A lot of people are like that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: And then they self-sabotage because they've convinced themselves in their head.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: This person is going to leave me. I am not
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: good enough for this person. When the whole time that
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: person is choosing to stay every day and love that person.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: You know, he needs some major therapy.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: So Michael says, I'll navigate the world thinking everything is
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: cool until one day you wake up and you say
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: you hadn't been happy in 10 fucking years. And she's like, what?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just something he's made up in
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: his head, you know? And he says, I can't be
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: gentle because I was raised like a fucking animal. And
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: that really hit me because it really does seem like
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: he was.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Being denied food.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Being denied food. And so he got so hard to
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: just block all that out, you know?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: And when he says raised like an animal, we're not
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: talking about like how we raise our dog.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: They live very low life.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: These are like abused circus animals that are not treated well.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: And maybe they were treated better than what he was
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: treated like.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: It's awful. And he goes, and I can't be gentle
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: because I was raised like a fucking animal. And if
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I can't do that, be gentle, then you won't be happy.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Because he's like spiraling. And she's like, you just assume that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: You don't know that. I believe in you because I
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: love you. And I love you if you're rotten. And
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I love you if you're sweet. And I love you regardless.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: And he's just like shaking his head. And she's like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I loved you in that fucking jumpsuit. And I love
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you now. Even if you go to bed like an
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: asshole and wake up, I love you just the same.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: You're still my person. Right. And I didn't let you
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: fall in there. And I'm not going to let you
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: fall out here. And now she's got her hands like
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: on his face, which is probably got just like snot
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: all over it. And she goes, She's hugging him and
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: he's crying and he's like leaning on her shoulder. And
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: she's like, I love you. You are my best friend.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: And this man has gone from for the streets to
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: crying and snotting over any person that gets within four
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: inches of him. So Dr. Ish is a miracle worker.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody done got a little snot and a couple of
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: tears on them.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I think except for Alexis and Julian because I think
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: they're kind of scary ones.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I think they give everyone the ick.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Well, they're like, this is not a real couple. He
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't like her. It's really sad.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: He's just living there so they can split the rent.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: And split the rent is a stretch. So Dr. Ish,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: because Michael's crying and she's hugging him, and Dr. Ish says,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: this is what manhood looks like and it's strength. Because
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: for sure, Michael thinks this looks wimpy that he's.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Because you can't fucking cry like that in prison.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: No. Oh, God, no. And he says, manhood looks like
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: this strength. Like, see how he's fighting for you right now.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: And he's fighting for himself. This is strength. And he's
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: saying to Justine, I'm sorry. I really am. I really am.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: And it says, you got one job in the next
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: hour is to unpack that bag. And then Justine says,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: you just sat through a therapy session. And Dr. Ish goes,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: you sure did. Surprise, surprise. And Mike goes, and I
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: didn't give him any drugs. If I would have had
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: more time to talk to Dr. Ish, which I didn't,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I would have asked him, how many therapists do you
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: know that have been on drugs? Like, is this like
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: a common thing that we should be looking out for?
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Like Michael acts like half his clients were therapists.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. You know, they say that doctors
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: and nurses, I mean, when it comes to drug users,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: they are super high on the list. So, yeah, I
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: won't be surprised if therapists are, I mean, they're people.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. I know, but it's super interesting, you know.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dr.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Ish made a joke about it, like he didn't sell
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: me any drugs or whatever.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, over in the group, everybody's laughing. And Joey, Marcelino
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: just smiling. We're like, who's that guy over there? Oh,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: that's Marcelino. Everybody's laughing and telling jokes. And Joey goes,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I keep telling her, like, we need to do more
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: things together. We need to go work out.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: And she goes, you will fucking have a heart attack
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: on a stair climber.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Also, go work out by yourself. Louie does it.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I'm tired. I'm working. And he goes, oh,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: but you ain't too tired to go out to dinner.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, now I'm going to slap
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: you across the face. Because what the fuck did you
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: just say to me?
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Just because you've been smoking enough crack to get rid
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: of your woman bearing hips this season.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you need to be talking about what she
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: eats and doesn't eat.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: She, you don't need to be saying to any, she
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: needs to go out to dinner. You shut up. Let
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: her take herself.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Gross. So, um, Michael and Justine come back and
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, you guys okay?
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Yay.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: And everybody claps. And Michael's like, oh man, I just
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: want to apologize to y'all. And Marcelina says, you don't
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: need to apologize to us. You're growing. You got a,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: you got a breakdown to build up and none of
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: us have anything figured out. Like it's okay. Marcelina is like,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: also don't hug me again, man. It's not my turn.
• 58:06
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• 58:10
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  Speaker 1: So Dr. Ish goes to talk to everybody and goes, okay,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: all right, we've all heard the term fight or flight.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: So now we're going to talk about how we handle
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: combative situations. And Brittany goes, are we going to have
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: to argue again? God, I'm so tired of that. So
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: they all kind of laugh and they go outside. Now,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: think this scene was way longer because they obviously had
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: stuff on the ground that was broken and we only
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: saw each person do one side we didn't get to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: see the other side so they just picked out what
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• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: barrels and they're made of chalk and you pick out
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: things like what do you say during arguments so alexis
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: and julia's come up and she picks up verbal attacks
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: is how he acts during arguments and she goes he
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: just says like Why are you so dumb? Why are
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: you an idiot? You're a dumbass for doing that. Like
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: you're stupid. And he goes, you know, that's just how
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I talk. And Dr. She goes, okay, but what if
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: somebody talked to your daughter like that? He goes, he goes, well, yo,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: that's different. Cause that's my daughter. And she goes, well,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I'm your woman. And I birthed that daughter.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, he doesn't think you're his woman.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: He doesn't. Let's just start there. No, he doesn't.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: And I don't think it would matter if he did consider.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's just, I mean, and again, like her.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: But also he made a great point last week or
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the week before where he said, I was in prison
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: from what age 17 to 27. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's all he knows.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: It's all he knows. Um, he grew up in prison
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: and that that's how he learned how to talk to people.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And Dr. Ish says, but you can pick different words.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Like I'm confused right now. Can you give me a minute?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Let me think that would help. Can you, and he goes,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: let's smash it. And they do. And I was like, well, this,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I'd like to have seen way more than this.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: And I just don't think that Julius does much thinking
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I would like to have seen what he said that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: he's unhappy with about her or whatever. And then Dr.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Ish goes, and I want to tell you guys about
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: ABT therapy, always be touching. So they walk off with
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: their hands around each other.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: So that was nice. And he probably like wiped it. No, no.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Wiped it off on his jeans when they were done. He,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: he just says, I, he does not like her at all.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: It's so obvious.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I think he maybe is doing this for the paycheck.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: And then also in his mind, he's like, can I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: figure out a way to coexist with this person and,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: and co-parent and not have to deal with her on
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: the daily, you know? And really we, we, we think
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: she would be way better off. She could go back
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: to nursing school. She could not look so depressed. I mean,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: She needs to love herself so that she doesn't have
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: to depend on this guy, I think.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: I think she would, if he left, I think she
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: would beg him and plead and do whatever he says
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: for him to come back.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: That's just where she's at right now.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Right now.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: So they're talking head together. They're sitting together. And he goes,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: that's just how I talk. And he goes, you know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and other people, you can see it, Melissa and Louie,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: that's the way she talks. And Alexis goes, okay. but
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make it okay.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: You know, Melissa shouldn't talk to Louie like that either.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: That's why they're there.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: So Melissa and Louie are now up there. And again,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: with the, you know, verbal abuse and he's like, that's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: how she talks to me. You're so dumb. You're so mature.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Stop asking me this. Are you a little kid? And
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: she goes, he asks me everything. Everything. And we get it.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: We've already talked about this. And I got lots of
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: response from me, like, explaining about how that happens in
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: our house, too. So I'm like, quit putting that on me. So,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, where were we? Oh, just several hours ago,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: we had to stop at a gas station. I had
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: to get coffee, and Dave got, like, a Celsius for
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: our car ride.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, God, no. He did not drink that. That is
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: like cracking a can.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: He loves a Celsius. But all, all three of them
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: in my family will have one a day. John doesn't
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: have them every day, but Anna has one every, Anna
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: has one every morning and Dave will have one if
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: we're driving. Oh my God. And so I got a coffee.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: And so he walked as literally this just happened. So
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I'm over at the little coffee machine trying to figure out,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: like get my coffee, get my French vanilla cream or whatever.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: And he comes up and goes, did you pay for
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: that already? I mean, it's pouring. So obviously, and I go, no.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: And he goes, where do you think we pay? Like,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: We're by the guy who is behind the cash register.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I've also never been in this gas station. So how
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: the fuck would I know? Do you know what I mean?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: But that is, it is a thing that people do.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: And they just like, I've never been here before. And
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I'll go, I don't know. I've never been here before.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: He goes, I know. You know.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: James is like that about movies. Like he'll ask questions
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: and say, just like it's your first time seeing this movie,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: it's also my first time seeing this movie. So I'm
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: fucking a But around the house, I am the question asker.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Well, it's hard. It's hard. So Dr. Ish says,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: because she says, he asks me everything. And Dr. Ish goes,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: but do the verbal attacks help? And she says, no,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: it doesn't help you. It doesn't help you get what
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: you want. And he goes, let's try a new tactic.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: And she laughs and goes, as long as it's not ABT.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: She says not as a person who's not very affectionate.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: With adults.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: I understand that. And I am with someone who's like Louie,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: who's overly affectionate. So like, literally like James has, that
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: means that he has to have a therapy session about that.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Because it makes them feel like, I show you love
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: and all these other ways. I just don't want to
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: smother on a person that, all day, every day. So
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: I kind of get what they're both saying right there.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I get what they're both saying and they've had different
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: sort of ways of showing love, but that's a whole
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: separate issue.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: But she also talks to Amin.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: She talks to Amin. So then she laughs and goes,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: as long as not ABT. And he goes, oh, I'm
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: about to prescribe a lot of ABT for you. So
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: just get ready. And they're like, oh shit.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I'm packing my bags now.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Brittany and Marcelino, she says, for four years, we were
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: so awful to each other But yesterday we both apologized
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: to each other and I think we really hurt each other.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I knew her story, but I didn't
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: realize how my mistake cut her and affected her so deep.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I really heard him. I heard his
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: apology and I've got no reservations about it anymore. Like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: it's gone now. And no matter what way we go,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for him and all the things I've
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: learned in the last 10 years. And I've genuinely made
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: peace with it.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I don't believe her.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: And Dr. Ish says, all right, so you guys don't
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: have this, right? Like you don't want to, you don't
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: want to do this because you worked it out yesterday.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: So let's imagine the word on the block is the past,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: which I was like, why don't you just have a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: marker so you could write anyway. And we'll say, this
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: is the past and you both smash it. And they do.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: And she, she goes and hugs him and it's sweet.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: And it's sweet.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sick. I don't feel like that's going to.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Be, I'm sick. They can't work it out. I am.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: but I'm hopefully they can just like be friends. Yeah.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Justina Michael. She says he does verbal attacks and they,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: and now remember they just had this whole breakdown thing.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: And he goes, what do you mean? Like how? And
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: he goes, she says, he will say things like, if
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: this is how you are, I understand why he was
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: like that with you.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: The way that Dr.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Ish went, like, The way he looked at him, like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: everyone was shocked.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: I was shocked too.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I was shocked.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Like, Whoa, like that's below the belt.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: And then he says, this is how I be feeling.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: And then he says, um, if you act like a female,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: then see how I act because I can be gentle,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: but you boss up and act like a dude.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: And she goes, but you come at me like an inmate.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: And if you think I'm about to be on the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: floor again, I'm not about to be. It's never happening again.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: So I think it's good. I think that he speaks
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: rudely to her and she doesn't just take it. She
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: gets limpy back. And then he says, you act like
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: a dude. Well, that's not acting like a dude. That's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: just somebody who's standing up for yourself. And he says,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not him. And she says, yeah, but when you
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: act like that, I think to myself, wow, I was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: a dumb bitch for 12 years. And now I'm about
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: to be a dumb bitch again. And don't start with
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the like, it's just talk because his started with the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: talk too.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: That's why it always starts.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: And I was like, great point. Great point.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: And he goes, but man, I don't do that shit.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: And she goes.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I can't see him putting his hand. on her. I
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: really can't.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I can't either. And she goes, I know that. And
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: he starts crying again. And Dr. Ish says, he did.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: He started crying again.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: He cried this whole goddamn episode.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: And Dr. Ish says to Justine, you're accusing him of
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: being somebody he's not. And we have a thing called
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: hypervigilant where we overreact when we're in a situation where
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: we don't feel safe. And Michael, the man I've seen,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: you're better than that, bro.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: And Michael nods and he goes, can you drop the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: verbal attacks? And he says, yes. And he smashes the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: block and they hug.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Again, I think this went on way longer and they
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: cut it way down.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: So Kimberly and Joey. All right. Think about what they do.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: what she does in a fight. So we're trying to
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: like put a little bit on Kimberly, like maybe she's mean.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, okay, great. I'm actually about to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: get to say something about her. Okay, here we go.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: So he pulls out all these blocks, emotional withholding.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: He doesn't know what that means. No, I didn't know.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Verbal attack. He's like, I know what an attack is.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what verbal means.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Aggression, ultimatums.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: And so he doesn't know what that word means. He
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: didn't even say that word.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: And Dr. Ish goes, okay, so what is an ultimatum that,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: now production, tell them what it means, that she gives you?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, she might say you better tighten
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: up or it's over. And she says, I do that
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: because I've done it for two years. I've taken all
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: I can take. And didn't I say quit doing drugs
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: or I'm leaving? And he goes, yeah. And she goes,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: and what happened? He goes, I quit. And she goes,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: so it worked.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: It didn't work.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: And she says, I mean it when I say it.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it to hurt you. It's to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: make you understand how deep I feel. I need you
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to focus on your sobriety by going to the meetings.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: He goes, okay. And she goes, prove it. You're not
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: proving that you're sober by going to the meetings. You
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: have to focus on it. So I think he's sort
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I'm going to go to a meeting tomorrow.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: But I mean, this guy needs to be in a
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: meeting every day, if not twice a day.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I doubt he has a job.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: How can he hold a job?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: They can't.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: So people that are this early in their recovery or
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: trying so hard. And I think Brittany could tell you,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: and I think Louie could tell you, you got to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: go to a meeting every day or sometimes twice a day.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Right. He's got the time.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: He's got the time. And if he doesn't have the time,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: he can go after work. I mean, there's a meeting
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: every hour all around that town. So he goes, I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: don't know how to change it. He goes, I went
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: through so much trauma trying to call it quit. So
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: now he's saying, He went through trauma just trying to
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: quit drugs. So he goes, you know that story about
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: that time I woke up at this stop sign. I
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: was at a stop sign. I nodded out and I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: had a car and my foot was on the brake,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: but I had a car next to me, a woman saying,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: do you need Narcan? And a tractor trailer was coming
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: my way. Holy shit. That would have been a wake
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: up call. So that day he went to a methadone clinic. Okay.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: We know that people then get addicted to methadone. So
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: he goes, but I got the methadone and they move
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: me up from 30 to 130, whatever he was saying,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: the milligrams. And Dr. Ish goes, that's a lot.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: That's a lot.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: That's a lot. And he goes, I know. He goes,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: they give it away like water. And he goes, and
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: so a few weeks after I went and picked the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: kids up, but then I woke up the same way
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: at a stop sign with the kids in the back.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: She goes, what? He goes, so that day I stopped
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: the methadone. So he's trying to say my trauma was
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: that I woke up with the kids in the car.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: He's trying to say that's his trauma.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: No, you traumatized those fucking kids. It's what you did.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: And you just traumatized Kimberly. And I can't believe neither
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: one of those kids, because they're seven and five, didn't say.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I can't believe they didn't say something. I think.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: He fell asleep in the car and somebody almost hit
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: us or something.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: I honestly feel like she already knew. But I feel
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: like she was like, I can't believe you just said
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: it in front of all these people. Because her reaction
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: wasn't big enough.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: But I think we're going to see the reaction next week.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: I think they cut it there. So you see everybody
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: else going, wait, is he saying... God bless Alexis, you know,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: that she had to put those bands around her head
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: and squeeze her brain a little bit. She goes, is
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: he saying he did that with the kids in the car?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: She can't even think right.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: And Justine's like, yeah. So they're all like, whoa. So
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: he's saying... His trauma is that he got so fucked
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: up that he fell asleep at a stop sign with
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: the kids in the car. And I'm like, bro, that's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: not your trauma. You did it. You did that. So anyway, listen, listen,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: I understand he traumatized himself by realizing what a piece
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: of shit he was. Like, I get what he's saying.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Like he realized right that day, I have a real
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: problem that I can't control around these children.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: But he wasn't the victim.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: But he wasn't the victim here. The kids were, but anyway,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Joey's got a lot of work to do. So anyway,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Next time on, Melissa asked Louie, you know, are you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: second guessing getting married? And he was like, well, why
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: would I want to get married to somebody who doesn't
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: want to get married? You know? So Alexis, and it
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: seems to be like this is in a group session
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: that Alexis asked Julius, if we didn't have the kid,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: would you be with me? Because you see her bawling,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: crying and him walking out of the room and we
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: see everybody else's faces like, we already knew the answer
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, sometimes you don't need to
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: ask a question when you already have the answer.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: God bless her. So then we see Brittany saying to
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  Speaker 1: somebody like, I'm not in love with Marcelino anymore. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've been separated two years. She's not in love with
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: him anymore, but she loves him. Yeah. And then we
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  Speaker 1: just see Dr. Ish say, what did you do? And
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  Speaker 1: Joey goes, I snorted it. And Dr. Ish says, will
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  Speaker 1: you do a pee test? We see Dr. Ish go
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  Speaker 1: into the bathroom with Joey. and joey is telling the
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  Speaker 1: camera i ain't never been able to say i'm completely
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  Speaker 1: clean and then we see him doing that calling uber
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  Speaker 1: i'm out and we see a van door close now
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  Speaker 1: we this is a matt sharp fake out we don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's him left we don't know if joey's
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  Speaker 1: saying i snorted it was from a different occasion like
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: he snorted the methadone or something right um But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: if he is high, whatever, we don't know. We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a good thing. And also, guys, we
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  Speaker 1: have access to like three ahead screeners.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we don't watch.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't watch ahead because I want to like
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  Speaker 1: watch it as you guys are watching it. Now, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people also, as we're ending here, a lot
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: of people do ask, where can I watch this? So
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: if you don't have just regular cable and you can
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: DVR it, you can get it on that app. It
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: used to be called All Black and now it's called
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: All Reality. That's where Kimberly watches it. Other people say
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: they watch like a terrible bootleg version on YouTube, but
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: somebody posted this week that if you wait long enough
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  Speaker 1: to where enough episodes in and you pay for a
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  Speaker 1: month of, or you just pay for a trial of
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: all black, you can watch them all. You can watch
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: them all. So I will tell you that it's nine
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: episodes total. We're on episode three. So if you want
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: to like, um, you know, pace it out and see,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: then you can watch all. I would really recommend watching
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: this show. Some people say like, it's such a downer
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: and it is, but I really think that it's kind
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: of making us see these.
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  Speaker 2: People that we talk about differently.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: For years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I mean, I still think Joey's got a serious problem,
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  Speaker 1: but I would like to see how this is going
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: to resolve if she's going to leave him or, or what?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just be the biggest fool if she didn't.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I agree, but, you know, I used to be with addiction.
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  Speaker 1: I felt bad, and then I just wanted to get better.
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  Speaker 1: But he's got a long way to go.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he hasn't even started.
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  Speaker 1: God bless.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Bless.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Everybody, send good healing vibes to Keisha's COVID.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm going to get my COVID and flu
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: shot next week. I got to get all vaccinated myself.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: And my son's already had the flu, so I guess
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: he's good to go.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: He should come in a year.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: We went to pick him up this morning. It was
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Sunday morning at his house to go take him to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: brunch before we left. And he came out of that
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: house limping worse than me on my worst plantar fasciitis day.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, what happened? What happened? He goes, oh,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: rolled my ankle last night. I was like, okay, dummy.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: So I just went to the Walgreens and bought him
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: an ankle brace. I was like, go to the medical
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: center if you need to. I don't know. Because I
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: was like, should we take you to the urgent care?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I'll walk it off.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: That's a typical boy.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to walk it off.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Typical boy. Okay. Now, the girls, they're claiming they need
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: an orthopedic surgery. ER.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Directly to the ER.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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• 1:18:00
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• 1:18:19
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• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: You did. Okay.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: It's The Libra Lounge with Keisha, not Peisha. I'm tired.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Okay. Not Peisha. I don't know a girl named Peisha.
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  Speaker 1: you on Wednesday. Welcome to Plathville. The rewatch is happening
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: and all your TLC 90 days. stuff is happening this week.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: And this week for Bravo, I've got Jason Zephyr on
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: to talk about the golden life, which starts this week with,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: with Sonya Ramona Luann and all that. I mean, we're
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: going to talk about Salt Lake and all that stuff too,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: but that he specifically asked to come on to talk
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: about that. Oh, nice. I'll be recording that on our birthdays.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: You guys, Keisha and I are, turning very different ages,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: but on the same day, October 21st.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, we are.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Jace was asking me last night. I was like, I
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: think she's five, eight this year.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about it, but yeah, I'll
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: be 58. I'll be 58.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll be four, seven, four, seven.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Not like, no, seven. Okay. All right, guys, we'll see
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: you next week.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Bye. Bye.