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Credlin | 9 October · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Kranbland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: I'm coming to you tonight from Sydney. Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: The fall out continuing for the Prime Minister on the
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Speaker 3: issue of Israel. Yesterday Australia was lockstep, he says, with
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Speaker 3: the United States, well today in a shock of an
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Speaker 3: interview on Skrine News, He's not so sure.
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Speaker 2: This guy's seriously out of his depth. More with Greg
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Speaker 2: Sheridan coming up.
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Speaker 3: It's a sad day when even the UN has a
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Speaker 3: better grasp than our leaders on why we need to
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Speaker 3: protect spaces for biological women.
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Speaker 2: But that's where we're at.
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Speaker 3: The UN's special Rapparteur rheim Alsalem demanding we adhere to
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Speaker 3: the female only category in sport. I guess the only
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Speaker 3: person here He'll be surprised by this Victorian lib A
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Speaker 3: leader John Pizzuto, after he expelled one of his own
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Speaker 3: female MP's after she attended a women's rights rally. More
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Speaker 3: on the push now to remove Puzzuto coming up. Plus,
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Speaker 3: it were six months on record ever for small businesses
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Speaker 3: in Australia, nearly seven thousand of them going under the
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Speaker 3: Commonwealth Bank reporting that operating conditions are arguably the most
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Speaker 3: challenging in living memory, and amid serious concerns are the
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Speaker 3: links of at least one guards and visa recipient to Hamas.
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Speaker 3: The Home Affairs Minister couldn't even muster up a sevy
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Speaker 3: decent response today, instead hiding behind the words of an official.
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Speaker 4: Can the Prime Minister guarantee his government has not granted
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Speaker 4: a visa to any individual from the terrorist controlled Guards
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Speaker 4: of war Zone who has links to a listed terrorist organization.
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Speaker 5: I said earlier in terms of terrorist organizations that I
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Speaker 5: didn't want to add to the words of Mike Burgess
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Speaker 5: or vari them. I've got the quote, so I'll read it.
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Speaker 2: I'll read it directly. When it comes to competence.
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Speaker 3: The Albanize government's two greatest areas of weakness the economy
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Speaker 3: and border security. The government let one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 3: plus foreign criminals out of immigration to tension when it
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Speaker 3: didn't strictly have to do that. There's been a mini
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Speaker 3: surge of illegal arrivals by vote as people's smugglers test
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Speaker 3: the government's nerve.
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Speaker 2: And there's the.
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Speaker 3: Issue of giving tourist visas to people from Gaza who
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Speaker 3: can't possibly be getting adequate scrutiny because they're coming from
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Speaker 3: a terrorist controlled war zone. With the three thousand tourist
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Speaker 3: visas already issued to people from Gaza, the government insists
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Speaker 3: that all the relevant checks have been made. Wef that's right.
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Speaker 3: How did someone who's routinely supported terrorism on his social
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Speaker 3: media slip through under our guard? Daily Telegraph reports for
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Speaker 3: Ahyir's al Fasani entered Australia from Gaza in July, even
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Speaker 3: though there Awasi Palestine Institute that he ran routinely called
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Speaker 3: for Israel to be confronted, he says, by all possible means,
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Speaker 3: while three of his deceased brothers and two of his
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Speaker 3: deceased sons were members of designated terrorist organizations. Now given
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Speaker 3: the AZO chief had a statement that said social media
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Speaker 3: posts that support terrorism would be a red flag for
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Speaker 3: anyone on a visa. How did mister Elfhasani escape notice?
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Speaker 3: And what's the government doing now about a probable terrorist
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Speaker 3: sympathizer in our midst.
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Speaker 6: If these allegations are correct, then the Albanezer government has
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Speaker 6: very serious questions to answer today. How did this person
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Speaker 6: enter Australia? What visa is he on? Was it sent
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Speaker 6: to Asio for vetting before it was granted? And why
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Speaker 6: has he remained in Australia despite these very grave associations.
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Speaker 2: What are they doing nothing?
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Speaker 3: That's almost certainly the answer, given this government's always considering
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Speaker 3: revoking visas but actually never does much at all.
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Speaker 4: Has the visa for this individual been canceled?
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Speaker 5: Process for all of these visas for people who've come
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Speaker 5: from Palestine has been exactly the same for every one
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Speaker 5: of them.
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister, has the visa of this individual been canceled?
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Speaker 5: The question is not different to the last one, and
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Speaker 5: the answer is not different to the last one either.
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Speaker 4: Have any of the tourist visas granted to those coming
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Speaker 4: from the terrorist controlled gars of war Zone since October seven,
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three been canceled? Prime Minister does support in
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Speaker 4: hamas pass the character test for an Australian visa.
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Speaker 3: It's all of a piece, isn't it, with its general
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Speaker 3: weakness on the Middle East out of fear of a
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Speaker 3: Muslim seen backlash in Western Sydney. In the end, all
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Speaker 3: this goes to character the character of the Albanezi government
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Speaker 3: and the character of the man who leads it. Far
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Speaker 3: from being the electoral trump car that most first term
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Speaker 3: prime ministers are with their big incoming margins. Alman easy
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Speaker 3: limped over the line in twenty twenty two with just
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Speaker 3: thirty two percent of the primary vote. Since then, Australians
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Speaker 3: have had a good look at the man and they
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Speaker 3: think he's weak and out of his depth. Look at
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Speaker 3: him today after saying yesterday Australia was lockstep with the
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Speaker 3: Americans on Israel, but now twenty four hours later, the
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister can't decide if that's true.
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Speaker 7: We have said that there needs to be a de escalation.
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Speaker 7: They called for a cease fire in order to have
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Speaker 7: peace in that Israeli Lebanon border, and they called for
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Speaker 7: the implementation of the UN Security Council resolution that was
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Speaker 7: carried on that.
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Speaker 1: So is it a ceasefire just to clarify it, but
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Speaker 1: or do you support the US position were to allow
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Speaker 1: Israelis to go in.
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Speaker 7: We have supported, always supported the same position as the
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Speaker 7: United States have poot careing.
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Speaker 1: Is that contradictory though now it's you're going to support them?
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Speaker 1: Pushback has below.
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Speaker 8: That's not contradictory.
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Speaker 7: It's the same position that the G seven countries have had,
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Speaker 7: not properly.
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Speaker 3: Brief before his interviews, not across what our allies are doing.
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Speaker 2: Obvious.
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Speaker 3: Yet again this bloke is just not up to the
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Speaker 3: job of running the country. An unusual parliamentary today Today
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Speaker 3: it was a morning time question time. We'll go there
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Speaker 3: with all of the news now, Skyny's political reporter Trundy Macintosh.
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Speaker 9: The Prime Minister has refused to directly support Israel's ground
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Speaker 9: incursion into Lebanon to take out HESBA infrastructure. It comes
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Speaker 9: hours after the US had backed the move.
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Speaker 1: So is it a cease fire just to clarify but
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Speaker 1: or do you support the US position now to allow
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Speaker 1: Israelis to go in.
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Speaker 7: We have supported, always supported the same position as the
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Speaker 7: United States have.
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Speaker 6: Book care because there now is a golf between what
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Speaker 6: the Biden administration is saying what the Albanezi government is saying.
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Speaker 6: No one from the Albaneze government has been willing to
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Speaker 6: say that Israel has a right to dismantle has blood.
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Speaker 2: And ex labor.
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Speaker 9: Senator Fatima Payman has taken a swipe at her old
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Speaker 9: party as she launches one of her own.
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Speaker 10: Australians are fed up with the major parties having a
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Speaker 10: duopoly a stranglehold over our democracy.
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Speaker 9: Today's launch of the Australia's Voice Party short on detail,
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Speaker 9: no key policies, candidates or donors.
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Speaker 10: Obviously launching the party today. The policy platform will come
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Speaker 10: in time and I'm very excited to publicly announce them.
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Speaker 2: In due course.
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Speaker 10: It's all on the table where considering all our options
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Speaker 10: at the moment.
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Speaker 9: Trudy Macintosh sky News canbra.
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Speaker 3: All right, We're going to get across a whole of
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Speaker 3: other stories tonight and to do that I'm joined now
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Speaker 3: by Skyne host National Affairs editor, the Daddy teleograph of
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Speaker 3: James Morrow, and our senior reporter in Sydney, Carolyn Marcus.
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Speaker 2: Well. Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 3: It was the issue, of course, that consumed almost all
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Speaker 3: of Question Time today, and that's concerns about a Palestinian
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Speaker 3: man who was granted a visa to enter Australia in
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Speaker 3: July despite social media posts showing he'd allegedly hosted political
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Speaker 3: members of Hermus and other terror organizations at his Gaza
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Speaker 3: Art institute. This comes to at the same time we
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Speaker 3: learn a US academic total Western Sydney pro Palestine rally
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Speaker 3: that asking a person to condemn her Mus was akin
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Speaker 3: to bullying. Well, James, A lot of focus here today,
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Speaker 3: a lot of questions asked of the government, but very
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Speaker 3: little in terms of answers, wasn't it.
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Speaker 11: Oh look, it was pretty shocking, Peter. I mean I
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Speaker 11: watch Question Time almost every time it's on. I haven't
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Speaker 11: seen a performance like this, the ducking and weaving and
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Speaker 11: the just lack of a coherent answer. You know. The
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Speaker 11: thing that really struck me here was they tried to
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Speaker 11: blame absolutely everybody but themselves, Tony Burke at the Albanese everything,
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Speaker 11: Oh well, you know, it's a security agencies. If they've
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Speaker 11: got a problem, they'll have a problem, you know, And
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Speaker 11: didn't take any responsibility Peter, for their own policy, which
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Speaker 11: was to bring in and give tourist visas to these
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Speaker 11: three thousand Gosins, which nobody here domestically. I had not
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Speaker 11: heard a lot of clamor for that to happen. Well,
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Speaker 11: you know, at the time when it was revealed, everybody said,
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Speaker 11: we said on this program there will be issues with that.
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Speaker 11: We are now starting to see those issues. And this government,
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Speaker 11: you know, they've brought in people who I think would
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Speaker 11: fail a character test if they are supporters. As it
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Speaker 11: does sound like of Hamas. That's not what we want here,
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Speaker 11: that's not even want to give refuge status to well, they.
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Speaker 3: Foul a character test at the gabin was prepared to
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Speaker 3: administer a character test, but I said to you all
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Speaker 3: at the top of the show, and I think the
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister himself is much character So I'm not surprised
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Speaker 3: that the Immigration Department doesn't know what to assess when
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Speaker 3: these applications come in at Caroline Trudy put it there
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Speaker 3: in the package for us Cinema Fatima Payment. Now officially
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Speaker 3: launching her political party. She calls it a movement for
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Speaker 3: a fairer and more inclusive Australia.
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Speaker 2: I had to laugh today.
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Speaker 3: She was quoting Sir Robert Menzies, the founder of the
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Speaker 3: Liberal Party.
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Speaker 2: She quoted passages.
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Speaker 3: From his Forgotten People's Address, So I don't know that
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Speaker 3: he was thinking of Fatima payment and a left when
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Speaker 3: he founded the Liberal Party with those sorts of words.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of this?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was pretty incredible.
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Speaker 12: Wasn't it that she doesn't know her history or she's
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Speaker 12: hoping that everyone who's listening to her doesn't either. Because
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Speaker 12: Robert Menzies was clearly talking about the middle classes during
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Speaker 12: a wartime era. When he made that famous speech about
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Speaker 12: the forgotten people, he was not talking about it an
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Speaker 12: entitleds overindulged senator who was elected on a labor ticket
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Speaker 12: but sucked to the cross bench because the government wouldn't
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Speaker 12: cow even more to the pro Palestinian anti Israel activists,
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Speaker 12: to which Fatima Payman seems to listen to and I
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Speaker 12: guess just agree with. And Robert Menzies was a great
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Speaker 12: friend of Israel as well and the Jewish community. So
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Speaker 12: while she goes on about being wanting a fairer and
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Speaker 12: more inclusive party, that probably doesn't include Jewish Australians who
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Speaker 12: would disagree greatly and would be put at risk by
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Speaker 12: comments she makes false comments accusing Israel of genocide. So
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Speaker 12: Robert Menzies, i'd have to say, would probably be turning
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Speaker 12: in his grave to hear someone like that quote him.
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Speaker 2: You'll see how successful she is.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's much chance the party is going
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Speaker 3: to pick up seats.
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Speaker 2: I think she's struggled to even hold her own. If
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Speaker 2: there's a d D. Of course she's not off this time.
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Speaker 3: Let's go back to the Prime Minister in the caucus
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Speaker 3: room and then now like the cabinet was leaking, he
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Speaker 3: was talking up his chances of a majority Labor government
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Speaker 3: after the next election. He thinks he's going to win.
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Speaker 3: He also says he's not going to do any deals
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Speaker 3: with the Greens, but please James, they will do a
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Speaker 3: deal on preferences. There is no doubt about this. And
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Speaker 3: Julia Gillarter remember said the same thing gin Din deals
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Speaker 3: with the Greens. What I think the trouble for the
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Speaker 3: government is we've got the Voice Anniversary next week.
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Speaker 2: This will just remind voters.
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Speaker 3: Of everything that's been squandered since they were elected. And
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Speaker 3: I can't say there's much of a record to.
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Speaker 2: Run no, no.
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Speaker 11: I mean this is really interesting, Peter, because we have
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Speaker 11: a first term government that is now acting like a
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Speaker 11: third term at least government. You know, the vibe of
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Speaker 11: the whole Albanizi government is one that is very much
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Speaker 11: out of puff. And if you think about everything that
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Speaker 11: we've had happened in the last two and a half
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Speaker 11: plus years, you know, it wasn't renewal. It has not
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Speaker 11: been It has not been changed, Housing has not gotten
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Speaker 11: more affordable, Social cohesion has not increased. In fact, it
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Speaker 11: has decreased. Dramatically, you know, first with the voice and
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Speaker 11: that effort to divide us by race and origin, and
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Speaker 11: then secondly by the Albanezi government's woeful mishandling of all
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Speaker 11: of the domestic and I think also national security ramifications
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Speaker 11: of the October seven attacks and everything that has flown
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Speaker 11: from that, from domestic to foreign to national security and
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Speaker 11: defense policy. So you know, and then you add into
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Speaker 11: this the economy, and I need to see that every
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Speaker 11: poll and all sorts of internal poles that you might see.
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Speaker 11: You know, people are very upset with how they're feeling
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Speaker 11: and doing. I think Albaneasy is trying to talk up
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Speaker 11: a very much a dying sort of government here that's
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Speaker 11: going to struggle to hold power. I think even in
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Speaker 11: the minority setting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you didn't know better, you feel that this
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Speaker 3: is a government at the end of three terms trying
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Speaker 3: to run for four.
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Speaker 2: It's not just government.
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Speaker 3: And this is the trouble they're in PM back in
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Speaker 3: hot water yesterday of course, with this gap in the parliament.
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Speaker 7: This nonsense that they carry on with the idea that
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Speaker 7: where have you.
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Speaker 6: Got to rex or something?
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Speaker 13: You know, you know, you see there babble babble, bab order.
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Speaker 14: Are we drawing, mister speaker, Are we draw?
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Speaker 3: Are we drawn?
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Speaker 13: We draw and apologize.
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Speaker 3: What's interesting to watch there is the faces of the
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Speaker 3: colleagues behind him. I mean, I left love their identity politics.
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Speaker 3: They all could see this play out and knew exactly
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Speaker 3: where it would go once he'd said those words. But Caroline,
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Speaker 3: what I'm interested to see was this lack of response
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Speaker 3: from the Teals, particularly Zalie Stegel. They all like to
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Speaker 3: hold themselves out as the arbiters of.
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Speaker 2: Good behavior in the parliament.
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Speaker 3: She goes after Peter Dutton and anyone from the right,
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Speaker 3: but she's strangely silent here on the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 12: Fancy that the party, and they are a party Pete
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Speaker 12: the Teals, let's be honest, the Party of integrity. They
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Speaker 12: wanted to get elected on this platform of a nicer,
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Speaker 12: fairer parliament, and yet time and time again we see
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Speaker 12: that's not the case, not the case at all. And definitely,
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Speaker 12: if the shoe was on the other foot, if it
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Speaker 12: was someone from the coalition making that kind of gaff,
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Speaker 12: you can bet that they would come out swinging.
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Speaker 2: But because it's the.
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister and because it's Labor, they don't, and that's
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Speaker 12: where the hypocrisy lies. I mean, I do give some
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Speaker 12: respect to Anthony. I've been easy for recognizing his error
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Speaker 12: straight away and correcting and making an apology for that. However,
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Speaker 12: I think voters do need to remember next time he
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Speaker 12: takes a swipe at Peter Dutton or anyone else on
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Speaker 12: the opposition on character grounds, that he's the type of
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Speaker 12: person to reach for that type of mockery of a
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Speaker 12: disability when things are getting a little bit hot.
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Speaker 2: On to the caller for him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to over amplify what he said.
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Speaker 3: I've heard a hell of a lot worse, sadly in
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Speaker 3: that Parliament and in the corridors around the chamber, and
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Speaker 3: he promptly dealt with it. But I think the hypocrisy
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Speaker 3: shown by Labor and the Teals in particular is what
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Speaker 3: we're focused on.
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Speaker 2: Thank you to you both.
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Speaker 3: All Right, let's go down to Greg Sheridan because we're
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Speaker 3: yet to fully I think realizer ramifications of yesterday's October
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Speaker 3: seven parliamentary motion.
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Speaker 2: But it's clear that for the first.
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Speaker 3: Time in a long time, by partisanship has broken down
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Speaker 3: between the two major parties of government when it comes
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Speaker 3: to Israel for more. I'm joined now, as I said
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Speaker 3: by foreign editor at The Australian, Greg Sheridan, Well, I
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Speaker 3: think it shames us as a country, Greg, that we
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Speaker 3: could not our parliamentarians could not outright condemn the barbarity
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Speaker 3: of October seven, and the Prime Minister appears coward by
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Speaker 3: his hard left caucus and fears from his Polsters about
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Speaker 3: the Muslim vote in Sydney.
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Speaker 2: I look at this and I wonder if.
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Speaker 3: It's if it's too tough to say that the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister is a coward.
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Speaker 2: I feel like he is a coward.
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Speaker 15: Well, Peter, it's great to be with you. This is
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Speaker 15: a very somber and sad subject. I think the government
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Speaker 15: has been very cowardly in a collective sen so they
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Speaker 15: want to personalize it on the Prime Minister too much,
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Speaker 15: and to give them their due, They're willing to condemn
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Speaker 15: the harmas atrocities, okay, but the problem is they're so
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Speaker 15: scared of saying anything that is unavow that is unambiguously
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Speaker 15: pro Israel, that they have to marry any condemnation of
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Speaker 15: Hummas with some anti Israel remark, some pro Palestinian remark,
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Speaker 15: some pro cease fire remark. Now, I think the government's
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Speaker 15: been completely unrealistic in all this stuff. It's been very
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Speaker 15: cowardly morally. It won't stand by our friend when our
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Speaker 15: friend is in desperate trouble being attacked. As Neat Niehu
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Speaker 15: said the other day, Israel is literally fighting a war
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Speaker 15: on seven fronts. All of these groups, Humas, Hasbilla, the
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Speaker 15: Iranian government, the whoties, they are all dedicated to the
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Speaker 15: complete destruction of Israel and the extermination of Jews. How
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Speaker 15: is Israel meant to compromise with that? And I think
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Speaker 15: the Albanese government for the last twelve months has been
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Speaker 15: destroying the bipartisan tradition in relation to Israel. It now
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Speaker 15: has an overtly anti Israel position, and in the effect
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Speaker 15: of its behavior at the United Nations, it either equates
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Speaker 15: Israel morally with the terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbillah, or
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Speaker 15: it supports resolutions which only abuse Israel and don't even
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Speaker 15: mention Hamas and Hezbillah. And I think there's a complete
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Speaker 15: lack of decency and basic political values involved in this.
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Speaker 15: And I think it's not just the Muslim vote they're
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Speaker 15: scared of. They're scared of the Green vaute. You know,
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Speaker 15: Albanize is never going to lose his seat to a Liberal,
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Speaker 15: but he might lose it to a Green. And so
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Speaker 15: it's not just the Muslim it's not all of whom
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Speaker 15: will vote for Muslim Voice or anything. It's also it's
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Speaker 15: also the inner city left wing Greens.
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Speaker 2: We've had this attrition and you're quite right to point
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Speaker 2: it out.
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Speaker 3: It's not just obviously domestically that they're saying things that
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Speaker 3: are ad olds with decades of labor history. There's been
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Speaker 3: this attrition at the United Nations and comments made on
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Speaker 3: the world stage by the Foreign Minister. But I think
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Speaker 3: to get to the point in the Parliament where you
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Speaker 3: have a motion that is meant to condemn a terror
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Speaker 3: organization and recognize an enormous loss of life on a
19:44
Speaker 3: particular day, that if parliamentarians, the two major parties of
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Speaker 3: government in particular, if they cannot agree to that, I
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Speaker 3: think we've absolutely crossed a rubicon here.
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Speaker 15: Greg, Yeah, I think it is a very bad day.
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Speaker 15: I agree, it's a very very bad day. Now. I
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Speaker 15: think Israel I think the Albaneva the government is absolutely wrong
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Speaker 15: on calling for an instant cease fire. It's absolutely wrong
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Speaker 15: on calling for an instant Palestinian state, although they're so
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Speaker 15: confused just lately, even Penny Wong won't repeat her call
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Speaker 15: for an instant Palestinian state, and Richard Miles wouldn't repeat
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Speaker 15: the absurd call of Penny Wong made for that at
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Speaker 15: the United Nations. But what Duttan and the Opposition wanted
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Speaker 15: was a simple, clear resolution just condemning the Hamas atrocities
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Speaker 15: and expressing solidarity with the Israeli and other victims. And
20:36
Speaker 15: you can prosecute all the other politics, you know, any
20:40
Speaker 15: other now of any other day. Yeah, you could do
20:43
Speaker 15: it tomorrow, or you could do it in another motion
20:45
Speaker 15: on the same day. Now, the government, in my view,
20:48
Speaker 15: is so attuned to the domestic politics and so scared
20:52
Speaker 15: of losing boats to the Greens, that they wouldn't do
20:55
Speaker 15: that because it seemed to be to pro Israel. It's
20:58
Speaker 15: like Penny Wong the Foreign men is to visiting Israel
21:01
Speaker 15: and then refusing to go to the sites of the
21:03
Speaker 15: massacres as if as if she was ashamed to be
21:08
Speaker 15: standing side by side with Israeli victims of massacre. And
21:12
Speaker 15: this emanates ultimately from the hideous left wing view that
21:17
Speaker 15: there is something profoundly illegitimate and racist, stand wrong about
21:21
Speaker 15: the Israeli state itself, and that of course is at worst,
21:25
Speaker 15: or at most a first cousin of direct anti Semitism.
21:30
Speaker 15: I think the government has been all over the shop
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Speaker 15: here today. Albanize said he's always had the same position
21:35
Speaker 15: as the Americans, but then he would not repeat the
21:38
Speaker 15: American statement that Israel had the right to make incursions
21:42
Speaker 15: into southern Lebanon to get rid of the Hasbala terrorist infrastructure.
21:46
Speaker 15: So there are only two possibilities here. Either he was
21:49
Speaker 15: actually not across the detail of the recent statement that
21:52
Speaker 15: the American State Department had made, and sadly that's all
21:55
Speaker 15: too common with the Prime Minister is seldom across the detail.
21:58
Speaker 15: Or the other possibility is is somehow other trying to
22:01
Speaker 15: have a lend of us, trying to say to a
22:02
Speaker 15: Sky News audience, I'm exactly the same as the Americans,
22:06
Speaker 15: but not to have a SoundBite where he says Israel
22:09
Speaker 15: is entitled to go into Lebanon because that will hurt
22:11
Speaker 15: him with the Greens voters in the inner cities. And
22:14
Speaker 15: this constant duplicity, this constant sort of seeking refuge in
22:19
Speaker 15: smart alex slogan's which some labor pr buffoon has made up.
22:23
Speaker 15: This is a terrible way to run a government. It's
22:26
Speaker 15: unworthy of an Australian government, and it's going to be
22:29
Speaker 15: bad politics in the end as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think i've seen, certainly my experience in politics,
22:35
Speaker 3: that's what twenty five years now, I'm more poorly prepared
22:39
Speaker 3: prime minister. Now, either of his officer giving him the briefings,
22:42
Speaker 3: he's not reading them, or they're not giving him the briefings,
22:45
Speaker 3: and he's not then searching out himself to be across
22:47
Speaker 3: the detail before he fronts a camera. But this is
22:50
Speaker 3: a repeated circumstance Greek.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, again and again and again. It's so strange. Now
22:57
Speaker 15: he's not going to appreciate me saying this one. But
23:01
Speaker 15: I still really like Albo. He's a very decent guy
23:04
Speaker 15: and he has the makings of a decent prime minister.
23:06
Speaker 15: His instincts when he first came into government to try
23:09
Speaker 15: to move to the center.
23:10
Speaker 16: Were very good.
23:11
Speaker 15: But because he comes from the left, he's never conceived
23:14
Speaker 15: of anything in national security terms. His office is not
23:18
Speaker 15: staffed with people who understand national security, and he was
23:22
Speaker 15: brought up thinking of the Israelis as villainous allies of
23:27
Speaker 15: the Americans, not as our democratic friends. So even when
23:32
Speaker 15: they try to move to the center, they kind of
23:34
Speaker 15: can't do it. They haven't got the instincts, they haven't
23:36
Speaker 15: got the staff, they don't understand the issues. But then,
23:39
Speaker 15: just as you say at the sheer technical level, like
23:42
Speaker 15: I'm no fan of Tony Burke, not a bit, and
23:44
Speaker 15: I think a lot of the stuff he says in
23:46
Speaker 15: Parliament is pretty pretty disgraceful, but at least he's across
23:50
Speaker 15: his brief. The same with Jim Chalmers. I mean, they
23:52
Speaker 15: might be selling your moonshine, but they know what they're
23:54
Speaker 15: supposed to sell you, whereas too often the Prime Minister,
23:58
Speaker 15: and I must say Richard Miles is guilty of this too.
24:00
Speaker 15: You take one degree off their prepared talking points and
24:04
Speaker 15: they don't know what to say. They've just got to
24:06
Speaker 15: constantly retreat. They're like Kamala Harris. They just constantly retreat
24:09
Speaker 15: back into the prepared phrase and that's as much as
24:12
Speaker 15: they can offer you.
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Speaker 3: Well over there, you are well prepared, though, Greg Sheridan,
24:16
Speaker 3: unlike the Prime Minister, thanks for your time or up
24:19
Speaker 3: the break. You know you've got a problem with even
24:20
Speaker 3: the UN's showing more common sense and the protection of
24:23
Speaker 3: women than so many of the so called leaders here
24:26
Speaker 3: in Australia. Last of potential leadership spill the Victorian Liberals.
24:30
Speaker 2: It's on next week.
24:31
Speaker 3: We're told we'll have a look at the key contenders
24:34
Speaker 3: and what they need to do to win back the
24:36
Speaker 3: trust of Victorian voters.
24:42
Speaker 2: Welcome back still to come.
24:43
Speaker 3: Why we should be very concerned about an increasingly desperate
24:46
Speaker 3: labor trying to ram through bad legislation and the NBN
24:52
Speaker 3: bills introduced today is a bit of a political wedge
24:55
Speaker 3: by the Prime Minister to try and get the focus
24:58
Speaker 3: off him and onto Peter.
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Speaker 2: I'll explain why.
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Speaker 3: That's a bit of a furfey, but first it's not
25:03
Speaker 3: life and I've got praise for the United Nations, but
25:06
Speaker 3: i have to say the UN Special Raponteur on Violence
25:09
Speaker 3: against Women and Children, Rem al Salem has consistently shown
25:13
Speaker 3: common sense when it comes to defending the rights of
25:16
Speaker 3: women and girls to single sex spaces. Just yesterday Al
25:21
Speaker 3: Salem handed down her report that declares women are entitle
25:25
Speaker 3: to single sex spaces in our change rooms, our toilets
25:30
Speaker 3: and single sex sport specifically that female sport categories should
25:36
Speaker 3: be exclusively accessible to biological women only biological females, and
25:42
Speaker 3: that men who identify as trans women instead need to
25:46
Speaker 3: be moved to an open category.
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Speaker 17: Their ability to police sports in condition of safety, dignity
25:53
Speaker 17: and fairness has been further eroudered by the intrusion of
25:58
Speaker 17: males who identify as fear in female only sports categories
26:03
Speaker 17: and spaces. So I've called for the creation in sports
26:08
Speaker 17: of open categories and the reintroduction or the introduction of
26:13
Speaker 17: non invasive, confidential and simple sex screenings where necessary, gentlemen.
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Speaker 3: Now, someone who has been a warrior on this issue,
26:22
Speaker 3: Liberal Senator for Tasmania, Claire Chandler. Claire, I have to
26:26
Speaker 3: say congratulations to you and many women who have stood
26:30
Speaker 3: with you right around the world put this on the agenda.
26:33
Speaker 3: But what does it say about our so called leaders
26:36
Speaker 3: here in Australia, not just in politics but also in
26:39
Speaker 3: sporting in the community, that we've got a un special
26:42
Speaker 3: rap want her who seem to have a better grasp
26:45
Speaker 3: for the challenges that women face than these leaders.
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Speaker 18: It's a bit of a sad reflection on these leaders
26:53
Speaker 18: here in Australia, both in sport and in politics. Like
26:57
Speaker 18: you say, Peter, and frankly, the UN special reperteur is
27:01
Speaker 18: spot on here.
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Speaker 2: Women and girls should have the.
27:04
Speaker 18: Right to compete in their own single sex sporting competitions.
27:08
Speaker 18: It's something I've been saying for years, It's something many
27:11
Speaker 18: Australians have been saying for years, and we are finally
27:14
Speaker 18: starting to see some of our institutions, including seemingly the
27:18
Speaker 18: United Nations, realize that that is the case as well.
27:21
Speaker 18: But it really does put in stark contrast the lack
27:24
Speaker 18: of leadership that we've had from big sporting codes in
27:27
Speaker 18: this country as well as our political leaders that they
27:30
Speaker 18: won't recognize the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so what happens next?
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Speaker 3: Because she wants a special raponteur in her report that
27:37
Speaker 3: big sporting bodies like the Olympic Committee and all the
27:40
Speaker 3: way down to grassroot clubs, they have to accept her findings.
27:45
Speaker 3: Now in many other areas will cowtow to the UN.
27:49
Speaker 2: What's going to happen here?
27:52
Speaker 18: Well, I think that's a very interesting question, Peter. And
27:54
Speaker 18: we do know that there are many international sporting bodies
27:58
Speaker 18: like World Rugby and World a Quad and World Athletics
28:01
Speaker 18: that have adopted common sense approaches and guaranteed women and
28:05
Speaker 18: girls the right to their own single sex sport. But
28:08
Speaker 18: what we haven't seen is our own local sporting codes
28:12
Speaker 18: here in Australia adopt those same policies. So I think
28:16
Speaker 18: it's fair to ask why there hasn't been any leadership
28:19
Speaker 18: from our leading sporting codes and frankly, why there hasn't
28:22
Speaker 18: been any leadership from our Australian government here that is
28:26
Speaker 18: happy to let this situation continue where women and girls
28:28
Speaker 18: don't have that guaranteed legal right to single sex sports.
28:32
Speaker 3: I guess now we've got this report, the Parliament could
28:36
Speaker 3: certainly have some legislation and it could be the Coalition
28:39
Speaker 3: putting in a bill that guarantees the right of women
28:43
Speaker 3: to women's sport.
28:45
Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 18: Certainly, Peter back in the last Parliament, as I'm sure
28:48
Speaker 18: you'll recall, I introduced my Save Women's Sports Bill to
28:51
Speaker 18: the Parliament to rectify the issue at law to ensure
28:55
Speaker 18: that women and girls have the right to single sex
28:58
Speaker 18: sport in this country. That book bill is still publicly
29:01
Speaker 18: available and it's absolutely up to the government if they
29:04
Speaker 18: want to pick it up and have a look at
29:05
Speaker 18: it and consider putting it into law. I don't have
29:08
Speaker 18: high hopes that the government will do that at this
29:10
Speaker 18: point in time, given some of their commentary.
29:11
Speaker 2: About that bill. But like I say, it's there.
29:14
Speaker 18: And anyone can pick it up and look at it
29:15
Speaker 18: and consider legislating it as they choose.
29:18
Speaker 3: Just before we go, Claire Barristers come out today. The
29:21
Speaker 3: barrister deals with the whole lot of cases involving children
29:25
Speaker 3: children who have gender dysphoria and the fore and against
29:28
Speaker 3: arguments from parents in relation to how they are treated
29:31
Speaker 3: with gender dysphoria. The barrister deals with this in the
29:34
Speaker 3: Family Court. Says that that Australia is relying on outdated
29:38
Speaker 3: information that our kids are being left behind because the
29:42
Speaker 3: science around puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, surgical interventions, she says,
29:47
Speaker 3: are all rapidly evolving. We're not looking at things like
29:52
Speaker 3: the cast report out of the UK. We're not looking
29:55
Speaker 3: at what the Scandinavian countries are doing about treating children
29:59
Speaker 3: with gendericecs EPHI. It's crazy to think we're leaving Australian
30:03
Speaker 3: children behind in terms of world's best practice.
30:09
Speaker 18: Oh, it is absolutely crazy and completely concerning. Like you say, Peter,
30:14
Speaker 18: and sadly, I don't think it's a surprise that the
30:17
Speaker 18: courts are operating off outdated information when the gender medicine
30:22
Speaker 18: industry here in Australia has been so reticent to open
30:26
Speaker 18: itself up for transparency and allow light to be shed
30:29
Speaker 18: on their practices. We know from the Cast Review that
30:32
Speaker 18: the treatment of gender dysphoria and children in the affirmation
30:37
Speaker 18: approach that that industry has been using up until now,
30:40
Speaker 18: it has not been working, and it has been dismantled
30:43
Speaker 18: in the UK quite rightly. So it's time for the
30:46
Speaker 18: Australian gender medicine industry to take a good hard look
30:49
Speaker 18: at that and consider whether that review would be or
30:51
Speaker 18: whether the outcomes of that review apply here in Australia.
30:54
Speaker 18: I'm sure they absolutely do.
30:56
Speaker 3: I think now that the lawyers are starting to find
30:58
Speaker 3: their voices, and of course it could be lawsuits that
31:02
Speaker 3: emanate from decisions taken in these courts for young people
31:06
Speaker 3: who age and might change their minds. I think we're
31:09
Speaker 3: going to see some more action here, Senator Chandler, thank
31:11
Speaker 3: you for your time. Well it was always going to
31:13
Speaker 3: come to this, wasn't it, John Perzuto. It's mishandling of
31:17
Speaker 3: the Moyer REDEEMI matter that's now jeopardizing his leadership the
31:21
Speaker 3: Victorian Liberal Party. Every day it seems more colleagues are
31:24
Speaker 3: confirming off the record that a challenge is.
31:27
Speaker 2: Now on foot.
31:28
Speaker 3: Replacements are being openly canvassed, and as soon as next
31:33
Speaker 3: week when Parliament returns, a no confidence motion in the leader,
31:36
Speaker 3: we're told is possible. And you know my views on
31:39
Speaker 3: Perzuto's leadership. Look at that UN report Women and Girls Moradeemi.
31:44
Speaker 3: She's on the side of the women there backed in
31:47
Speaker 3: now by the UN. It shows Perzuto's leadership. It's in tatters.
31:52
Speaker 3: But the Limbs have had a revolving door of leaders
31:55
Speaker 3: They've not even been able to cut through when they
31:58
Speaker 3: had a premiere that locked down Victorians for two hundred
32:02
Speaker 3: and sixty two days.
32:04
Speaker 2: So what happens next?
32:06
Speaker 3: Victorians are disillusioned, not just with the Allen government, but
32:09
Speaker 3: I have to say sadly with many in the Victorian
32:12
Speaker 3: Liberal leadership joining me. Now for his take, Former Victorian
32:17
Speaker 3: Liberal MP Tim Smith, Well, Tim, you might be in London.
32:21
Speaker 3: I'll get to some London issues in a moment, but
32:23
Speaker 3: you've written in the Age that the party is being
32:26
Speaker 3: controlled and I'll use your words here by a handful
32:29
Speaker 3: of elites.
32:30
Speaker 2: Take my viewers through this.
32:32
Speaker 3: Particularly you've got experience with the party machine. What's going
32:36
Speaker 3: so wrong still in Victoria?
32:41
Speaker 16: Well, good evening, Peter.
32:42
Speaker 19: The problem is that there are a couple of ex premiers,
32:44
Speaker 19: in particular Jeff Kenneth being the worst offender who just
32:49
Speaker 19: can't let go. And my view about Jeffrey with regards
32:57
Speaker 19: to the more redeeming matter at the moment is that
32:58
Speaker 19: Jeffrey confuses the Liberal Party. It's the party of Sir
33:01
Speaker 19: Robert Menzies, not car Marx. You know, we are allowed
33:04
Speaker 19: to disagree with each other, and he seems to not
33:07
Speaker 19: understand that.
33:08
Speaker 16: And members of Parliament on.
33:10
Speaker 19: Our side of politics go in there with the knowledge
33:14
Speaker 19: that they can cross the floor, that they like I
33:17
Speaker 19: did on the Treaty Bill, that we don't all have
33:20
Speaker 19: to agree with one another all the time. And unfortunately,
33:24
Speaker 19: I think Jeffrey has said to mister Pezuto constantly that
33:27
Speaker 19: if you are to compromise with more redeeming you'll look weak.
33:30
Speaker 16: It's the cult of the strong leader.
33:32
Speaker 19: So we have this obsession in Victoria in the Liberal
33:36
Speaker 19: Party with looking strong, and that comes from one person,
33:39
Speaker 19: Jeff Kennet. Now, Jeffrey won his last election when I
33:43
Speaker 19: was in year seven. It's a very long time ago, Peter.
33:47
Speaker 19: I think mister Kennet needs to leave it alone and
33:50
Speaker 19: let the MPs listen to their voters, their supporters, and
33:53
Speaker 19: their party members as to what's best for the future
33:57
Speaker 19: of the Victorian Liberal Party.
33:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, but look at their record, tim Looking strong has
34:02
Speaker 3: given them nothing. They're basically in permanent opposition. You have
34:05
Speaker 3: to have policies that resonate. I look at the Victorian
34:08
Speaker 3: Liberals and like you have had a long lifetime in
34:12
Speaker 3: and around the Liberal Party, the Victorian Liberals look like
34:14
Speaker 3: they are playing student politics when the state is desperate
34:17
Speaker 3: for leadership. I mean business is leaving Victoria, residents are
34:22
Speaker 3: leaving Victoria, migrants are coming in to prop up a
34:25
Speaker 3: budget that's drowning in red ink. I mean a state
34:28
Speaker 3: is absolutely struggling, that's the problem. And the limbs almost
34:32
Speaker 3: can't get out of their way. You know, they're bluing
34:35
Speaker 3: amongst each other to go after.
34:37
Speaker 2: The Labor Party.
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Speaker 19: I completely agree with you. I'm not saying that this
34:41
Speaker 19: cult of looking strong is a good thing. I'm saying
34:43
Speaker 19: it's actually a very bad thing. Because by desperately looking strong,
34:47
Speaker 19: they look very weak focusing on themselves. I mean, I
34:50
Speaker 19: think I wrote in my piece that if mister Bosto
34:52
Speaker 19: spent a little bit more time focusing on attacking the
34:55
Speaker 19: Labor Party and not the conservative wing of his own party,
34:57
Speaker 19: he'd be doing a lot better.
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Speaker 16: And my concern is that going.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, Peter, I'm just going to say, just to pick
35:04
Speaker 3: up you know you wrote in the Age. Well, Jeff
35:07
Speaker 3: Kennett also put a column in the paper yesterday. He
35:09
Speaker 3: wrote in the Herald Son, and he said that the
35:11
Speaker 3: Deeming matter actually has made John Perzuto's leadership look stronger.
35:16
Speaker 3: It's amplified, he says, his leadership qualities, and he's gone
35:21
Speaker 3: after shadow cabinet members, those in particular that gave evidence
35:25
Speaker 3: against Persuto, and he says an I quote that they
35:28
Speaker 3: should resign their shadow cabinet positions on principle. Now, is
35:32
Speaker 3: Jeff Kennett seriously suggesting that the MPs who have sworn
35:37
Speaker 3: an oath in court given evidence in relation to what
35:40
Speaker 3: they saw and heard around this Deeming matter, that they're
35:44
Speaker 3: meant to what light of the court in order to
35:46
Speaker 3: protect John Persuto. And if your call before the court
35:48
Speaker 3: to give evidence. You got to call it as truthfully
35:52
Speaker 3: as you can.
35:55
Speaker 16: Well, equally, I completely agree with you.
35:57
Speaker 19: I'd also be I think it's very unwise and misteric
36:00
Speaker 19: it to be making those comments. I mean, potentially hypothetically
36:04
Speaker 19: intimidating witnesses is quite a serious matter, and I would
36:08
Speaker 19: hate that it would be construed that mister Kennett was
36:10
Speaker 19: doing that, because that would be a very serious matter
36:12
Speaker 19: for the court to consider.
36:14
Speaker 2: All right, just a couple of names.
36:16
Speaker 3: Can you tell us who might end up being the
36:18
Speaker 3: Liberal leader if this all goes ahead?
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Speaker 19: Well, my late mail Peter is that they can't agree
36:23
Speaker 19: on a replacement. If they could agree on a replacement,
36:26
Speaker 19: mister Bizuto would be numbered next week. But I'm hearing
36:29
Speaker 19: that mister Growth is interested, Brad Batten's a run for
36:34
Speaker 19: the leadership a few times. I'm hearing that mister Kruther
36:37
Speaker 19: is offering his services. So who knows what will happen
36:41
Speaker 19: next week. It's the Victorian Liberal Party. There's only thirty
36:44
Speaker 19: of them. I mean you could have ten, you could
36:46
Speaker 19: have a third of the room being a candidate.
36:47
Speaker 16: Who knows.
36:48
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the UK. You're in London.
36:50
Speaker 3: As I said, things are going from bad to worse.
36:52
Speaker 3: For Kis Starmer four months or so into the job.
36:55
Speaker 3: There's all that controversy about him, excepting hundreds of thousands
36:59
Speaker 3: of pounds in freebies. We've got a backbencher and his
37:02
Speaker 3: party quitting because she says that's not the way that
37:05
Speaker 3: a Labor prime minister should govern. Now is chief of
37:09
Speaker 3: staff Sue Gray Well, she's resigned. It's been described as
37:12
Speaker 3: a coup. He's got a whole lot of new staff
37:15
Speaker 3: coming in that's supposed to fix things. His net approval
37:19
Speaker 3: in the latest poll is at a minus thirty six percent.
37:23
Speaker 2: You'd have to say the honeymoon's well and truly over.
37:28
Speaker 19: This has been the worst start to a new government
37:30
Speaker 19: I can recall. I think, ever, it's appalling. They're only
37:36
Speaker 19: one point ahead of the Tories and the Tories don't
37:37
Speaker 19: even have a full time leader. Rishie Sunak has essentially
37:40
Speaker 19: stepped back from being the opposition leader to allow the
37:44
Speaker 19: Tory leadership battle to occur without him intervening.
37:49
Speaker 16: So Labour's only one point ahead of the Tories. Now.
37:52
Speaker 16: Their first hundred days have been appalling.
37:55
Speaker 19: The chief of staff's resigned, a backbench has resigned, one
37:58
Speaker 19: hundreds of thousand of pounds unsworth of freebies that have
38:02
Speaker 19: had to be declared to the Parliament.
38:05
Speaker 16: It's a total mess.
38:07
Speaker 19: And all the while you've got the Labor Party playing
38:10
Speaker 19: foot seas with these militant anti Israel MPs putting arms
38:18
Speaker 19: embargo on Israel for the first time in modern British history.
38:21
Speaker 19: I mean, this is becoming an increasingly left wing and
38:25
Speaker 19: I think disasterrous government for the UK.
38:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll watch it closely, thank you, Tim.
38:31
Speaker 3: All right after the break, despite a looming election, Labour's
38:33
Speaker 3: agenda has stalled. Now you've got to have a record
38:36
Speaker 3: to run on if you are in government, So ask
38:39
Speaker 3: yourself this, what's Labor done in its first term that
38:43
Speaker 3: you reckon?
38:44
Speaker 2: Has been good for Australians.
38:47
Speaker 3: Plus, why is Anthony Albanezi so desperate to sell off
38:50
Speaker 3: his investment property?
38:56
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
38:56
Speaker 3: Kelbridge's coming up, of course, but let's bring you my
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Speaker 3: panel now, Shadow Environment Minister Senator Jonathan Dunham and senior
39:03
Speaker 3: fellow at the Mensies Research Center, Nick cat Let's start,
39:06
Speaker 3: if I can, Senator with the record spike in small
39:09
Speaker 3: business insolvencies. New data out today revealing almost seven thousand
39:14
Speaker 3: companies have entered an administration in the six months two September.
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Speaker 8: This is serious, Peter, it absolutely is, and no one
39:25
Speaker 8: should be surprised. Yet when we asked the Minister for
39:28
Speaker 8: Finance today in the Senate it was as if it
39:30
Speaker 8: was business as usual and look, it's a small blip
39:33
Speaker 8: on the radar and people should just carry on. Things
39:36
Speaker 8: will get better.
39:36
Speaker 16: Just trust us.
39:38
Speaker 8: When you've got inflexible ir laws, more expensive labor inputs,
39:42
Speaker 8: more expensive energy, we're are pricing ourselves out of the market.
39:46
Speaker 8: And the five and a half million small businesses across
39:48
Speaker 8: the country are the engine room of our economy, particularly
39:51
Speaker 8: in the regions. But nothing this government has done by
39:54
Speaker 8: way of policy is making it any easier. In fact,
39:57
Speaker 8: all of their policies have made it much harder. Result
40:00
Speaker 8: we're having these numbers, but yet they just dismiss it.
40:02
Speaker 8: So we are going to have to keep the foot
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Speaker 8: on the throat of this government to try and get
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Speaker 8: them to see sense here or else. A lot of
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Speaker 8: people are going to lose their homes and businesses as
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Speaker 8: a result.
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Speaker 3: Broadly speaking, Nick Katie, you know you've got to have
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Speaker 3: an agenda to run on at an election, particularly when
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Speaker 3: you are in power.
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Speaker 2: You're the government.
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Speaker 3: You've got to demonstrate to Australians that you've done what
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Speaker 3: you said you would do when they elected you, and
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Speaker 3: that you've got there in a forward agenda going on.
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Speaker 3: Their legislative agenda's ground to the ground to a halt
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Speaker 3: in the Parliament. They lost all of last year on
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Speaker 3: the Voice. Will be reminded about that when we hit
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Speaker 3: the anniversary on Monday.
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Speaker 2: They've got a.
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Speaker 3: Very controversial censorship bill for the Internet that's there in
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Speaker 3: the Parliament. The bishop that was allegedly stabbed, Bishop mar
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Speaker 3: Maari Emmanuel, he's been out there very publicly critical of
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Speaker 3: what this legislation would do in the instance of his
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Speaker 3: alleged stabbing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the record they've.
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Speaker 3: Got, if they've got any sort of record, it's a
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Speaker 3: record of failure.
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Speaker 13: Well it's a nothing record, isn't it, Peter. I mean,
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Speaker 13: I suppose they might point to legislating zero twenty fifty
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Speaker 13: if they think that's the achievement, if they think it's
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Speaker 13: going to win the votes. But that was the start
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Speaker 13: of their term. I think that was in June twenty
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Speaker 13: twenty two. What have they done since then? Not much
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Speaker 13: at all. But I am worried about this Misinformation Bill
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Speaker 13: because there's a pattern actually in history, as I've written
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Speaker 13: about in this month's Quadrant, of Labor governments in their
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Speaker 13: last few months, coming up to an election, in their
41:31
Speaker 13: final terms, pushing through really bad legislation. I mean you
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Speaker 13: think about all the legislation and the notorious nineteen c
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Speaker 13: legislation in the Racial Discrimination Act and so forth, that
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Speaker 13: was all came through in the very final days of
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Speaker 13: a government and it came back to haunt us. I
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Speaker 13: think the Misinformation Bill will do exactly the same, and
41:51
Speaker 13: it comes out of a government that's just desperate to
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Speaker 13: get something, you know, on its cards. So something on
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Speaker 13: the scoreboard.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'll show you something else that's come back to
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Speaker 3: haunt them. Goes to Kevin Rudd today in the Parliament.
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Speaker 3: This is a tactic, wasn't flagged. It's all about trying
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Speaker 3: to wrongfoot the opposition, trying to make the opposition look like,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's got a hard job ahead of it
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Speaker 3: to take away from people the NBN. Labor put it
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Speaker 3: on the table that they're going to protect the NBN,
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Speaker 3: that they'll have a legislative mechanism that means it can
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Speaker 3: never be sold down in the future. But some turkey
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Speaker 3: in the PM's office clearly hasn't done their homework, because
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Speaker 3: this is what Kevin Rudd said when he introduced the NBN.
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Speaker 2: Have a listen.
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Speaker 6: The government will make an additional investment in this company
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Speaker 6: but intends to sell down its interest in the company
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Speaker 6: within five years after the network is built.
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Speaker 3: Well, John o'danium, they don't know, they don't know their
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Speaker 3: labor history.
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Speaker 2: No, no, they don't.
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Speaker 8: And this is what happens when you have twelve year
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Speaker 8: olds running the PMO and Minister's offices. And someone sent
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Speaker 8: to me during question time today a copy of a
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Speaker 8: press at least from Stephen Conroy saying exactly what the
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Speaker 8: Prime Minister has said. Now they should know the history here.
43:06
Speaker 8: But what a ridiculous thing to be doing out of
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Speaker 8: the blue. Urgently we must act to stop the Coalition
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Speaker 8: if they ever get their hands back on the levers
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Speaker 8: of power, from selling the NBN, as if there was
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Speaker 8: some imminent threat that that's what we were going to do.
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Speaker 8: But what a ridiculous distraction. It is very reminiscent of
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Speaker 8: the whole Look over here, look over here while they
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Speaker 8: do something dongey and bad over there. And that's exactly
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Speaker 8: what they're doing. And if what's worse is every single
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Speaker 8: user of the NBN across the country will be no
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Speaker 8: better off. They won't have faster internet, more secure internet.
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Speaker 8: It's the same sort of tricks from a government on
43:40
Speaker 8: out of ideas.
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Speaker 3: Hey, if you've got to spare couple of million, maybe
43:44
Speaker 3: spare three million dollars in sitting on the weekend. The
43:47
Speaker 3: Prime Minister's investment property is going to auction. He's expected
43:51
Speaker 3: to make some five hundred thousand dollars profit, but he'll
43:55
Speaker 3: also benefit from the very capital gains tax discount that
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Speaker 3: his own treasurer and government is looking at scrappy, Nick,
44:05
Speaker 3: maybe this is why he's in such a rush to
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Speaker 3: sell the home.
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Speaker 13: Do you think, well, yeah, it could be one or
44:12
Speaker 13: two things, Peter start. The other thing is he thinks
44:15
Speaker 13: he's going to win the next election and he can
44:17
Speaker 13: carry on living in Kurabilly House. That's the only thing
44:20
Speaker 13: I can think of. But either way he's delusional. I mean,
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Speaker 13: if they think they're going to about you scrap the
44:25
Speaker 13: negative gearing and the capital games concessions, they are in
44:30
Speaker 13: for a terrible time at the next election. But they
44:32
Speaker 13: might just do it. I mean, they're that kind of government.
44:34
Speaker 13: But I will tell you something exclusively, and I don't
44:37
Speaker 13: think this has been reported. There have been major re
44:40
Speaker 13: landscaping of Kurabilly House that's been going on for at
44:43
Speaker 13: least five to six months now. It's quite adventurous. I
44:46
Speaker 13: don't think they're in any of the papers. I don't
44:48
Speaker 13: know what that's for. Maybe for his wedding, who knows,
44:50
Speaker 13: But we'll see in due course.
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Speaker 3: I suppose, Oh, that's an estimate one for you, John
44:54
Speaker 3: o'dunnam to find out how much that's all cost and
44:57
Speaker 3: who's approved of plans to reland escape those extensive gardens.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly, the cost of.
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Speaker 3: These protests, it's tens of millions of dollars. We know
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Speaker 3: in Victoria just for that one week around the Landforce
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Speaker 3: protest it was thirty million dollars.
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Speaker 2: Chris Mins is saying we're going to.
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Speaker 3: Look at this, We're going to look at the question
45:16
Speaker 3: of police seeing resources before we give these permits. That's
45:21
Speaker 3: a big change. I think that's a good change. But
45:24
Speaker 3: it wasn't so long ago. John o'donnaham that when Nigel
45:27
Speaker 3: Farage came to Australia, they put it on him to
45:31
Speaker 3: pay the cost of police to protect him from the protesters.
45:35
Speaker 3: Why are we putting the costs on the protesters.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well and we should frankly. I mean, police resources
45:42
Speaker 8: are there to protect the community, and you know, when
45:45
Speaker 8: you've got cops diverted into managing these ridiculous people running
45:50
Speaker 8: these protests rather than chasing thugs and protecting women from
45:55
Speaker 8: domestic violence perpetrators and the like, they should be paying
45:58
Speaker 8: the bill. So I command Chris Means for what he's done.
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Speaker 8: I think it is the right thing to work around
46:03
Speaker 8: these ridiculous work councils that allow this sort of thing
46:05
Speaker 8: to happen. But the resourcing, yes, it should be going
46:08
Speaker 8: to where it needs to, not chasing these people that
46:10
Speaker 8: want to feel good about themselves and they participate in
46:13
Speaker 8: these long term rallies that will change it nothing over
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Speaker 8: the issues they're protesting about. So yeah, let's send the
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Speaker 8: bill to them.
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, gentlemen. I have to leave it there.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for your time, Senator Donny and Mare Nick
46:24
Speaker 3: Cata or up the break the wonderfil Kel Richards in
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Speaker 3: the studio with me in Sydney. Well, I'm delighted to
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Speaker 3: say he's in situ with me at the desk here
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Speaker 3: in Sydney, the wonderful Kel Richards. This is a pleasure
46:39
Speaker 3: for me to come into Sydney. I always trying to
46:41
Speaker 3: do it on a Wednesday, so I get to sit
46:42
Speaker 3: down with you. We've got some terrific words tonight. One
46:45
Speaker 3: of them's the authority issue of pronunciation, which goes to
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Speaker 3: explain in a way why English is such a tricky
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Speaker 3: language to learn. This comes from Jennifer, one of our viewers.
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Speaker 2: Why.
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Speaker 3: She says, is there such different pronunciations between bomb tomb?
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Speaker 14: And there's a reason, and I think I finally know it.
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Speaker 14: By the way, this is called orthopy or orthopy is
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Speaker 14: the correct pronunciation of right pronunciation and study of that.
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Speaker 14: I didn't know there was a word. I've discovered that
47:19
Speaker 14: so or therapy. And the only certain thing about English
47:23
Speaker 14: pronunciation is it's uncertain. And our six year old grandson
47:26
Speaker 14: is learning to read, and we keep saying you've just
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Speaker 14: got to memorize it, so why and in other languages
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Speaker 14: is not that case? In Finnish every letter always makes
47:36
Speaker 14: the same sound.
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Speaker 2: Well, Italian's the same, right, not in English? Not in English.
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Speaker 14: In English, we have a big range of sounds, and
47:43
Speaker 14: we only have twenty six letters. We have twenty six
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Speaker 14: letters at least fifty two different sounds, possibly more because
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Speaker 14: words have come into English from soe many languages. The
47:52
Speaker 14: result is those twenty six letters have to perform multiple
47:56
Speaker 14: functions at they all have to make multitaskts sounds. So
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Speaker 14: the omb has to be three different sounds in the
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Speaker 14: words that Jennifer mentioned, ough has to be about five
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Speaker 14: or six different sounds in rough through boo words like that.
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Speaker 14: So it's because we don't have enough letters in the alphabet.
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Speaker 14: Japanese has got forty six letters, Hindy's got fifty letters,
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Speaker 14: the Khmer language has seventy four letters. Even finish, which
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Speaker 14: is basically our Latin alphabet, as twenty nine letters.
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Speaker 16: It's got three year.
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Speaker 2: Right, there's your answer, Jennifer, all sorted out there.
48:31
Speaker 3: Felix wants to know what's the difference between may and can.
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Speaker 14: May is about permission? Can is about ability? May I
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Speaker 14: eat the last piece of cake?
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Speaker 16: Is?
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Speaker 14: May I have permission? Can I eat the last piece
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Speaker 14: of cake? Is I've got a bulging stomach? Can I
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Speaker 14: squeeze this last one?
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Speaker 2: In?
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Speaker 16: So?
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Speaker 14: Permission or ability? Mayer's permission? Can is ability.
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Speaker 2: What about stickler? Where's that one come from?
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Speaker 14: Fifteen thirty eight? It first turns up and when at
48:58
Speaker 14: first appieces a stickler was an ump. He was a
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Speaker 14: referee and he was there to make sure the competence
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Speaker 14: in whatever was going on, wrestling or whatever, follow the rules.
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Speaker 14: And sticklers are still the same. Sticklers are people who
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Speaker 14: want us to stick to what the rules are, doing
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Speaker 14: everything accurately.
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Speaker 3: What about schmick David wants today and I'm a bit
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Speaker 3: keenam thiss one. I love the word schmick is where
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Speaker 3: does that come from?
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Speaker 14: This is fascinating. It looks Yiddish and it's not Yiddish.
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Speaker 14: It's actually ours. We invented it. It's Australian, much more
49:29
Speaker 14: recently than Australian. It's ours coined here nineteen seventy two,
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Speaker 14: so much more recent than you might think now. It
49:35
Speaker 14: has borrowed from Yiddish, because they're probably Yiddish words in English,
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Speaker 14: it's borrowed the opening sound, the sort of sound at
49:42
Speaker 14: the beginning, but it's actually a combination of two English
49:44
Speaker 14: words smart and slick. So you and you put smart
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Speaker 14: and slick together and then you make it sound a
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Speaker 14: bit Yiddish, you end up with schmick.
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Speaker 3: I love it, I love it and I love it.
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Speaker 3: That's our word as well. Where do people go to
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Speaker 3: give us more words for next week?
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Speaker 14: Ozwords, dot com, dot a you, oswordsozed words, dot com,
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Speaker 14: dot a.
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Speaker 3: You lovely to be here as always, Thank you, Kel,
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Speaker 3: Thank you Kel. All right, that's it for me. Andrew
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Speaker 3: Bolt is up next