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The Ancient Mystery Religion of America | Chris Pinto · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast today, everybody. We have got a
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  Speaker 2: tremendous program. I am sitting here with Chris Pintel.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome Chris, great to be here, Mondo, good to see
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  Speaker 3: you again.
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  Speaker 2: And I had an opportunity to watch I've seen many
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  Speaker 2: of your films, but I had an opportunity lately to
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  Speaker 2: watch your latest film on the Jesuits. Now we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get into that in a minute, but I do
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  Speaker 2: I find it interesting too that it'll be a very
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  Speaker 2: interesting conference because it's only a a few short weeks
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  Speaker 2: after the election, and so things will be very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we know, we always say that this election
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  Speaker 2: is the most important in you know whatever, but it
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  Speaker 2: seems like over the past few it has been true
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  Speaker 2: every time. The next one is even more important than
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  Speaker 2: the previous because we're watching the end of the age,
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  Speaker 2: we're watching the signs, and we're watching the setup happen
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  Speaker 2: with globalism and a whole bunch of other things. So
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  Speaker 2: this is pretty amazing. But one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: this is a good segue here is this idea of
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  Speaker 2: people working behind the scenes to set up an Antichrist order.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into that, but Chris, just you know, for
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  Speaker 2: our audience who might not know you, kind of introduce
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  Speaker 2: yourself to them who you are, you know, what you've
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  Speaker 2: been doing, and the different films. And really it takes
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  Speaker 2: some time here because you have so many great films
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  Speaker 2: out there which I would love for people to learn
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  Speaker 2: about and to be intrigued about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm Chris Pinto, and our minister is called Adullam
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  Speaker 1: Films and it's named after the cave a Dullam in
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  Speaker 1: the Old Testament, which is the cave that David fled
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  Speaker 1: to when he was being persecuted by King Saul. And
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  Speaker 1: they're all the outcasts of Israel gathered around him. He
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  Speaker 1: became their leader, and we think that's a beautiful picture of.
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  Speaker 3: The Lord Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 1: And then David goes out fighting against the enemies of Israel,
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  Speaker 1: and for me, that's a picture of how we're called
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  Speaker 1: to fight the good fight of faith. And we do
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  Speaker 1: that through our work in film and video production and
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  Speaker 1: also through our podcast at noisethunder radio dot com. But
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  Speaker 1: like you said, we've you know, my focus in terms
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  Speaker 1: of being an independent Christian filmmaker, has been in contending
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  Speaker 1: for the faith against the corrupt influences of.
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  Speaker 3: The powers of darkness.
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  Speaker 1: If you will, you know, Paul says, we wrestle not
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  Speaker 1: against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against
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  Speaker 1: the rulers of the darkness of this world, against virtual
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  Speaker 1: wickedness in the heavenlies. And so that's what a lot
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  Speaker 1: of our work is focused on, and exposing it from
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  Speaker 1: the Bible, also from history, and then by examining world events.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what's happening in the world today. We have
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  Speaker 3: one of.
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  Speaker 1: Our early series called Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings, Part one,
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  Speaker 1: The New Atlantis. The New Atlantis, many people are not
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  Speaker 1: Aware is one of the names for what people today
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  Speaker 1: are calling the New World Order or the Great Reset.
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  Speaker 3: It's all the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Just repackaged in different labels and exactly exactly. And there
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  Speaker 1: in that film we talk about Sir Francis Bacon and
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  Speaker 1: how he was the first Grand Master of modern Masonry
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  Speaker 1: and then he became the chief of the Rosicrucians Rose Aicrucianism,
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  Speaker 1: which is very deceptive because the symbolism is the rose
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  Speaker 1: and the cross, and so the rose symbolizes paganism and
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  Speaker 1: the mystery religion. Okay, so subrows are the idea of secrecy,
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  Speaker 1: and then the cross of course Christianity. But it's if
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  Speaker 1: you combine it, it's like the secret Christianity.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they're communicating.
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  Speaker 1: And it has to do with these secret groups, these
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  Speaker 1: secret societies. What are some of those, Well, you got
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  Speaker 1: the Freemasons, you have the Rosicrucians, you have the Skull
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  Speaker 1: and Bones Society, you have the Hellfire clubs throughout Europe
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  Speaker 1: that were active for centuries. A modern day Hellfire club
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  Speaker 1: would be at the Bohemian Grove in northern California, which
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  Speaker 1: is very well documented that we have political leaders that
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  Speaker 1: go out there and they're involved in these pagan occult
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  Speaker 1: rituals that ought to be disturbing for everyone. Now sometimes
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  Speaker 1: we've had people who are Christian who question whether or
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  Speaker 1: not we should be focusing on things like that. And
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  Speaker 1: what I do is I always go to the scripture
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  Speaker 1: and I point out to people that we're warned about
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  Speaker 1: this over and over again throughout the Word of God.
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  Speaker 1: And you were mentioning before we started Ezekiel Chapter eight,
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  Speaker 1: how God takes Ezekiel and he shows him through a
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  Speaker 1: hole in the wall in the temple, that all the
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  Speaker 1: ancient men are there worshiping all the pagan gods, and
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  Speaker 1: inside of the temple, inside the Temple of God.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a scripture I wanted to read.
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  Speaker 1: From Second Kings seventeen and verse nine, where it says,
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  Speaker 1: and the children of Israel did secretly those things that
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  Speaker 1: were not right against the Lord their God. And they
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  Speaker 1: built them high places in all their cities, from the
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  Speaker 1: tower of the Watchmen to the fence cities. And they
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  Speaker 1: set them up images and groves in every high hill
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  Speaker 1: and under every green tree. I believe that's why they
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  Speaker 1: call the Bohemian grove the grove. It's a reference to
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  Speaker 1: this paganism from the Old Testament, and it says, and
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  Speaker 1: there they burn incense in all the high places, as
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  Speaker 1: did the heathen, whom the Lord carried away before them.
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  Speaker 1: And they wrought wicked things to provoke the Lord to anger.
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  Speaker 1: For they served idols where the Lord had said to them,
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  Speaker 1: you shall not do this thing. So the Lord said
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  Speaker 1: to them, you shall not do this thing. And yet
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  Speaker 1: that's what they were doing. And they knew that the
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  Speaker 1: laws of God condemned this behavior. And then if you
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  Speaker 1: try to draw somebody away from the Lord, you could
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  Speaker 1: even be put to death, absolutely under the Old Testament law.
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  Speaker 3: And yet, so that's why they're doing it secretly. They're
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  Speaker 3: doing it secretly.
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  Speaker 1: Secret societies are secret because they know that they're part
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  Speaker 1: of some evil, wicked, subterranean behavior and they don't want
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  Speaker 1: everybody else to find out about it. That's why they
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  Speaker 1: keep it secret. And we talk about it, but we
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  Speaker 1: talk about it in a very historic way where we
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  Speaker 1: go and we go on location to different places and
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  Speaker 1: we talk about it from the historic perspective because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it is interwoven in ancient churches, like you
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  Speaker 1: go to a temple church in London, we took a
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  Speaker 1: trip there at one point, and you look at the confessionals,
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  Speaker 1: and in the Confessionals, they have these roses that are
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  Speaker 1: engraved in the archway of the confessional, and it's this
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  Speaker 1: whole idea of being sub rosa secret that what's talked
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  Speaker 1: about on the Confessionals not going to be talked about
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  Speaker 1: anywhere else. And we cover all that in the New
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  Speaker 1: Atlantis Part two in that series called Riddles in Stone,
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  Speaker 1: where we go over the secret architecture in Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about the symbolism of the pentagram. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people, you know, at first, people are thinking, well,
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to say that there's some deep dark satanism involved,
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  Speaker 1: which it can be that, but not necessarily.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of it.
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  Speaker 1: Is interwoven in what they call the ancient mysteries or
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  Speaker 1: the wisdom tradition, that's another term that they use in
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  Speaker 1: these groups. And so the whole idea of the pentagram,
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  Speaker 1: for example, was based on the rotation of Vma around
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  Speaker 1: the sun and how Venus over an eight year cycle
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  Speaker 1: goes around the Sun and forms a five pointed star.
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  Speaker 1: That's where they took the idea from. Now in Washington,
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  Speaker 1: d C. Have because people point out the and we
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  Speaker 1: explain to all this in the film.
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  Speaker 3: In Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 1: You have a pentagram in the street design of Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 1: But people say, well, wait a minute, it's an incomplete
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  Speaker 1: pentagram because the last part of it comes down and
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  Speaker 1: that stopped short. And so they say, well, that means
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  Speaker 1: it's not really a pentagram. And what we show is
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  Speaker 1: that the idea of a broken pentagram is actually a
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  Speaker 1: pagan symbol well known. We quote Manly P. Hall and
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  Speaker 1: other sources, and then we show that the reason for
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  Speaker 1: it is because this rotation of Venus around the sun
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  Speaker 1: stops short at the end of its cycle, and so
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  Speaker 1: it does not form a complete pentagram. And so the
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  Speaker 1: ancients that's why they use the open or broke pentagram.
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  Speaker 1: So those kind of details. But once you understand it
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  Speaker 1: that way, and you understand that this was you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Pythagoreans, they thought the pentagram, they called it the
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  Speaker 1: pentangle or the pent alpha. They thought it was very symbolic,
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  Speaker 1: and they had all these philosophic traditions that they developed
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  Speaker 1: from it. But that's what paganism and the occult really is.
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  Speaker 1: The word occult simply means that which is hidden. And
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  Speaker 1: when we read the New Testament and we read what
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  Speaker 1: the apostle Paul is saying, he's saying to the church
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  Speaker 1: at one point, I tell you that the sacrifice which
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  Speaker 1: the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God. Well,
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  Speaker 1: who are these demons? Zeus, Apollo, Athena. We've been conditioned,
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  Speaker 1: I think, in modern times to think these are just
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  Speaker 1: harmless you know, it's just fake names.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, there's real beings behind these names.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, the temple of Zeus in the ancient world
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  Speaker 1: in Revelation, where where Jesus says, I know where thou
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  Speaker 1: dwellest ephn where Satan's seed is. He's talking to the
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  Speaker 1: church at Pergamam. That's where they had the temple of Zeus,
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  Speaker 1: and that's believed to have been the seat of Satan
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  Speaker 1: at that time. In fact, the image, now this gets
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  Speaker 1: really powerful, Mando. I want to share this because this
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  Speaker 1: is where Freemasonry and the Jesuits and their and all
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  Speaker 1: really all these secret groups they all practice what are
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  Speaker 1: called the ancient Mystery religion, which is the idea that
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  Speaker 1: really blending all the gods and goddesses into one once
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  Speaker 1: you understand it. But the way they do it is
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  Speaker 1: you read Albert Pike and his book Morals and Dogma,
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  Speaker 1: and he mentions the ancient Egyptian god Aman, Aman of Mendes, and.
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  Speaker 3: Aman was this ram headed or goat headed god, and
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 1: Pike says that the secret of Aman is that he
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  Speaker 1: was the spirit of the gods, and that all the
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  Speaker 1: other gods were various representations of him.
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  Speaker 3: So what they did was, you had the Greeks.
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  Speaker 1: They took their god Zeus, and they said, well, Aman,
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  Speaker 1: he must be the soul of the spirit of Zeus.
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  Speaker 1: So they took the ram horns from Aman and they
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  Speaker 1: put them on the bearded figure of Zeus, and you
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  Speaker 1: end up with this bearded guy with horns coming out
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  Speaker 1: of his head. In fact, you can look up online
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  Speaker 1: if you look up Zeus Aman, you'll find bearded figures
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  Speaker 1: with horns coming out of their head.
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  Speaker 3: Alexander the Great.
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  Speaker 1: Believed he was the son of Zeus Aman. That's why
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  Speaker 1: you have a coin of Alexander with a ram's horn
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  Speaker 1: coming out of his head. So that's where this whole idea.
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  Speaker 1: But see, the early Church recognized that this was Satanism.
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  Speaker 1: This was Satan's religion, this blending together of all the gods.
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  Speaker 1: So we believe it's very important to understand what these
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  Speaker 1: groups are doing, because people are not just waking up
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  Speaker 1: Mondo and suddenly they're promoting transgenderism and open borders and
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  Speaker 1: all these different things. These things are being talked about
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  Speaker 1: by people who are involved in these groups, and then
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  Speaker 1: they're unleashing them into our system.
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  Speaker 2: You know, everything you just said is so interesting in
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  Speaker 2: that it's almost like the all these things that have
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  Speaker 2: been there and that they'm in secret, some of them,
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  Speaker 2: it seems now are just right out in the open
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  Speaker 2: in our current like in the last five ten years,
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  Speaker 2: all those ancient gods. It seems to be that even
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  Speaker 2: though they've kind of been in the shadows, now when
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  Speaker 2: we look at all the the trand the trans stuff
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  Speaker 2: that you know, the the gender confusion, you know, the wokeness,
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  Speaker 2: social justice, all these other things, the subversive, subversive things
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  Speaker 2: that have been happening for a long time are now
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  Speaker 2: just becoming mainstream in our in our current culture.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it related it to the Bible.
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  Speaker 1: We both know the history of what happened in the
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  Speaker 1: days of King Ahab and Queen Jezebel that they both
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  Speaker 1: worship bail. The scripture says that when Ahab worshiped Bail,
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  Speaker 1: it says as though it were a light thing that
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  Speaker 1: he would worship bail. And so that's what King Ahab does.
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  Speaker 1: But how did they get there? I believe the way
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  Speaker 1: that they got there was it began with these secret groups.
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  Speaker 1: They're practicing this paganism in hideaway places, and then eventually
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  Speaker 1: it manifests itself in the government and that becomes like
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  Speaker 1: the new normal. Yeah, you know, and that's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: Ahab and Jezebel did. They made bail worship the new normal.
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  Speaker 1: They started persecuting the true prophets of God and then
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  Speaker 1: now it's the prophets of Bail who were sitting at
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  Speaker 1: Jezebel's table.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and then we see the big the big
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  Speaker 2: battle in First Kings eighteen with Elijah. I mean, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: here we are. So, I mean, this is probably a
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  Speaker 2: good time to segue because in thinking about you know,
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  Speaker 2: these secret groups you mentioned earlier and I mentioned it
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  Speaker 2: in the Sunset, your new documentary kind of introduce us
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  Speaker 2: to that the new documentary and why you why you
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  Speaker 2: why you ended up with this with this topic because
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  Speaker 2: this is this is going to be an interesting topic
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  Speaker 2: because you know, we always have a variety of people,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and people who are Catholic or whatever. I
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  Speaker 2: was raised Catholic, so I'm not a I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: novice and understanding Catholicism, went to Catholic grade school, was
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  Speaker 2: an alter boy, all those things. Our priests were Jesuits
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  Speaker 2: at there, So maybe kind of introduced that in the
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  Speaker 2: sense of again, this this this idea behind what many
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  Speaker 2: of them are doing in their history. And again that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean just because I'm sitting there as a ten
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  Speaker 2: year old in my local parish and I don't see
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  Speaker 2: any of this doesn't mean that it's not going on, right,
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  Speaker 2: So talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: The film is called American Jesuit's a History of Jesuit
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  Speaker 1: in the United States, and we go over the history
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  Speaker 1: of the order, why they were formed. You have the
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  Speaker 1: Great Protestant Reformation that happened where the Reformers recover the Bible.
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  Speaker 1: Bible had been outlawed and why because people kept preaching
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  Speaker 1: the Bible and they were opposing the pope, and the
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  Speaker 1: popes got angry, so they outlawed the Bible. In the
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  Speaker 1: thirteenth century, and that remained for a time until you
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  Speaker 1: had people like John Wickliffe. Wickliffe translated his Bible because
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  Speaker 1: he believed that people had a right to have access
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  Speaker 1: to the Word of.
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  Speaker 3: God in their own language. That was the great drive there.
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  Speaker 2: But for.
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  Speaker 1: Rome, the issue was their own authority and the authority
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  Speaker 1: of the pope. So the Reformation happens. People start reading
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  Speaker 1: the Bible and they're turning away from Rome. Well after
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  Speaker 1: this went on for a few decades, the pope launched
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  Speaker 1: what is called the counter Reformation, and he commissioned a
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  Speaker 1: Spanish soldier who became a priest named Ignacious Loyola, and
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  Speaker 1: Loyola founded this company was called the Company of Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: The Society of Jesus is their official name, but they
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  Speaker 1: became known as Jesuits.
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  Speaker 3: That's really a negative term.
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  Speaker 1: It means somebody who claims to believe in Jesus, but
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  Speaker 1: they're just using the name of Jesus as a pretense
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  Speaker 1: for their corrupt practices. The Jesuits have been repeatedly called
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  Speaker 1: the fulfillment of all the warnings about wolves in sheep's clothing,
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  Speaker 1: that that is who and what they are, and there's
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  Speaker 1: just many, many writers throughout history who have effectively said
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, and we go over a whole list
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  Speaker 1: of them, whether it's historians like J. A. Wiley, or
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  Speaker 1: former US presidents like John Adams, whether it's great men
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  Speaker 1: of history like Otto von Bismarck, the great Chancellor of
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  Speaker 1: Germany who expelled the Jesuits back in the nineteenth century.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a whole history of the order that used
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  Speaker 1: to be very, very well known. In fact, if you
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  Speaker 1: got a Webster's Dictionary from the eighteen fifties and sixties
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  Speaker 1: and you looked up the word Jesuit or jesuitical, it
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  Speaker 1: was always the Jesuits were always mentioned in the negative
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  Speaker 1: as deceivers who crafted deceptions as part of a secret agenda, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, And that doesn't I think about that again, to
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  Speaker 2: think about the ignorance of the modern culture again, even
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  Speaker 2: myself in the sense of living in an environment where oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Jesuits was just something common, and there was
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  Speaker 2: Jesuit schools, you know, that we would from our school,
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  Speaker 2: we would filter into a Jesuit school for high school
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  Speaker 2: if I was to go there, and I actually was
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  Speaker 2: making my way to go to one. It never happened,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't think in those terms. But to have
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  Speaker 2: it where it makes its way into a dictionary that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't happen overnight by any means, as it relates to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, having a connotation like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I should say this because you and I
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  Speaker 1: were talking about it earlier, and you had Jesuits who
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  Speaker 1: taught you when you were in school. Are all Jesuits
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  Speaker 1: necessarily bad or part of some nefarious plot? I'm inclined
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  Speaker 1: not to think so, because there are different levels to
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  Speaker 1: the order, and you have people like Malachi Martin was
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  Speaker 1: a Jesuit and he left the Order at some point
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  Speaker 1: because exactly he wrote a bunch of books exposing it.
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  Speaker 1: In the eighteen hundreds, you had a very prominent Catholic
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  Speaker 1: guy named Paul von Hohensbrook who came from a noble
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: German Catholic family, and he really loved his parents. You
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: read his writings and he talks about his upbringing and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: how wonderful his parents were to him.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: So when he.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Became a young man, he became a Jesuit, and he
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: was a Jesuits for fourteen years. But then he left
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the Order, he said because he discovered that the Jesuits
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: were behind socialism in Germany, Okay, and then he became
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: a Protestant, wrote all of these different books, and he
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: was trying to warn Catholics and Protestants about what they
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: were doing. So obviously I think von hohens Brook was sincere,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you know, he was he thought he was following the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: one true faith, and once he realized that there was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: corruption there that was just part of their way of
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: doing things, he didn't want to be a part of it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: He left and tried to warn others. We talked before
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the break about Lord Acton in England, who famously said
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: he was a Catholic statesman, but he famously said power corrupts,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and he was warning about
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the totalitarian claims made by the popes and the Jesuit order.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: So I think there are people in the Catholic system
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: who are sincere and.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Who are trying to do the right thing. That's what
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I mean by all that.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I found it very interesting that even the way
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: that you started your documentary, which again this documentary is
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: absolutely tremendous, you know, it's almost three hours of material,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: that was shocked. I'm a researcher and I was shocked
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: at how you found so many original sources and everything else.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: And the way that you opened the film was just
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: talking about the foundation of America. And yet even at
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: that early stage, so fifteen forty, roughly ignacious of loyal
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: you know, the Jesuits are founded, so one hundred years later,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: you know, in the early days of the Plymouth Brethren
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and et cetera. And yet there even within one hundred
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: years they recognize the threat. Talk about that, I mean,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: how you started the film.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So we show we show one of the early ships
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that the Puritans sailing to America, and it's with Governor
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: John Winthrop. And Governor Winthrop is famous for having, you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: for the quote about America being as a city on
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a hill. Okay, and he's the one who originally gave
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that speech, you know, we shall be as a city
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: on a hill.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: But he said it the full speech.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: He says, we shall be as a city on a hill,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: so that if we shall deal falsely with our God
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: in this work that he has prepared for us, we
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: shall become as a proverb and a byword to the world.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So it was actually, on the one hand, a beautiful concept.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: On the other hand, a warning you know that if
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: we're faithful to God will be a shining city. If
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: we're not, then we could be brought to ruin. So
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and of course that's the warning that God gave to
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: ancient Israel. But Governor Winthrop gave as the number one
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: reason for the Puritan migration to America. He said, to
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: preach the Gospel in those parts and to raise up
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a bulwark against the kingdom of Antichrist. That the Jesuits
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: labor to rear up in those parts.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: So this is this is you're not giving the sense
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of what he said. You're quoting hum exactly exactly.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: So he specifically mentions the Jesuits and that America should
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: be founded as a bulwark against the powers of Antichrist,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: but in particular the Jesuits as an Antichrist system.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: So talk as well because about so this is sixteen forty,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you know, roughly there, and we know that of course
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the colonies began to develop it as there was more
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: migration coming across. But yet many of them, or at
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: least that there was to talk about from there all
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the way to the revolution, how there was a consistency
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and even a banning of Jesuits altogether in some places.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Massachusetts Bay specifically. In fact, they the State
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of Massachusetts to this day has on their website, you know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: talking about when they banned the Jesuit Order from the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Massachusetts Bay Colony. Yes, they officially banned them forbade them
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: from setting foot, not even allowed, not even allowed. A
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: lot of it had to do at that point. That
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: would have been sixteen thirty, I think, is when the
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Puritans came in. But you had the Gunpowder plot of
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: sixteen oh five, which was blamed on the Jesuit Order
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that in fact a lot of people don't realize. You know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: people are running around wearing the Guy Fawkes mask from
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: v for Vendetta, the movie.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Well, Guy Fawkes was a Jesuit agent.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: It was the Jesuits who put him up to putting
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the barrels of gunpowder beneath the houses of Parliament there.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: They were going to blow it to smithereens and kill
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the Protestant King James and put a stop to the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: development of the King James translation. And then they were
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: going to usher in a Catholic government to take over.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But the whole thing was exposed and brought to an end.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: In fact, one of the you know, there's the poem,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: remember remember the fifth of November, the Gunpowder Trees, And
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: in plot there's several version of it, versions of it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: One of the versions is the Gunpowder Trees, and in plot,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a reason why Jesuit treason never should
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: be forgot.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: And that's just part of the history.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It's history that they don't teach in our schools. It
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: used to be very very commonly known by Christian Protestant evangelicals.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I mean you had Sir Thomas Carlyle, who was one
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of the most famous historians of the nineteenth century. In
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: eighteen fifty he called that era the age of Jesuitism literally,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: so it was there were very very common warnings that
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: were given among Protestants evangelicals. We talked about the Marquis
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: de Lafayette, who said that if America should ever lose
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: its liberty, it would be at the hand of the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Roman Catholic Jesuit priests.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And he was close with Washington.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Lafayette who served with George Washington during the Revolution.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and so as we're progressing here a little bit,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you know, we can't get in all of it, but
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: even talk about the letters of which I thought was
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: amazing between Jefferson and was it Madison I think or.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Adams John Adams.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now Adams, the Jesuits, they had they had been
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: kicked out of the countries of Europe some thirty nine
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: times by the year seventeen seventy three.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Just so yeah, so just just in a couple hundred
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: years or less.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they from fifth seen forty to seventeen seventy three.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a couple hundred years that they had developed
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a reputation such that they were kicked out, that this
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: this supposedly religious organization, the under the Catholic Church, this order,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: which was you know, basically a tool of the Pope.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Correct, Well, they were called the Pope's men, okay, and
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: they were they were the reason that they were being
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: driven out. And most of the countries that were driving
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: them out were Catholic.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Countries, even Catholic countries were even Catholic countries were That's
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: important because you say, oh, you're just a Protestant hater,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you know, you hate on the Catholics, you know, but
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: here you're saying, no, no, no, the Catholic countries and
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: well even later, I have here in your notes that
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the Pope Clement banished the Jesuits in seventeen seventy three exactly.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: So it's not just this is a subversive group that
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: has been on the tails or using Catholicism in many
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: ways for their agenda.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: In fact, even in recent news here in the past
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: few months, you had Archbishop Vigano, who's gotten a lot
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of attention. Mel Gibson has endorsed Vigano, but he blames
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the Jesuits right now for the corruption going on in
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the Vatican, the fact that they're promoting LGBT. Francis is
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: promoting atheism, he's promoting ecumenicalism. All religions lead somehow or
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: other to God, and so Vigano knows, and many Catholics
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: know that. What they did with Vatican Council too, because
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that was a Jesuit document.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: What they did with that was.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: They literally changed everything that the Catholic Church and virtually
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: any Christian Church had taught for nearly two thousand.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Years, the conservative theology. Yeah, they turned it upside down.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing we used to believe as Protestants,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Catholics and Greek and Russian Orthodox We all used to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: agree that Christianity is the only true religion, and there
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: are many statements to that effect. You go read early
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: court rulings in America, like People versus John Ruggles. The
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: court openly said that America, the United States, is a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Christian society, right, and so they forbade blasphemy and contempt
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: publicly against Christianity, And they said, neither are we obligated
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to grant the same protection to the religion.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: In Muhammad or Buddhism, etc.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Because we're a Christian society and our religion is based
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: on Christianity, or our laws are based on Christianity and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: not on the religion of those impostors.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: So the courts in our country declared that pagan religions
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: are false religions officially, officially, that was the view of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the United States when our country was founded, all the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: way through the nineteenth century and into the early part
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of the twentieth century.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: It was Vatican two. I mean, they had the.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Parliament of World Religions in the late nineteenth century at
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the Chicago World's Fair eighteen eighteen ninety three, but there
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: were no official church declarations from what I understand. From that,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think there were, but nothing like Vatican Council.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Too, and that happened in the sixties, correct, Vatican Two.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Happened in the nineteen sixties.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so now you have an official declaration from
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the Roman Catholic Church, from the Pope, the cardinals, the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: bishops and everything, basically declaring that Christianity and Catholicism are
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: basically just as good or different paths to God, exactly
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: one of many ways to.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: God, which is so contrary again to the previous catechisms
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: going back, because even in the time of the Counter Reformation,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, they were, you know, declaring all their anathemas
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: against the solas you know of the Reformation, you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: by grace, by faith, you know, the Bible alone, et cetera.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: And they were promoting, you know, the Sacramental system as
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the only way. And so to see this in Vatican Two,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to go contrary to what has been there, that that's
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: a big that's a big step for sure. And so
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: this was originating or this was part of the Jesua platform.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: In fact, the Jesuit General at the time was Pedro
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: A Arrupe who's really one of the most nefarious of
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the Jesuit generals. Altho, he's always pictured smiling, you know,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: big smiley, happy guy, very friendly guy. But Pedro Rupe
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: he ushered in a number of things. He ushered in
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the LGBT movement in the Catholic Church.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: He commissioned the guy a Jesuit named John McNeil to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: launch that whole movement, to write the book The Church
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and the Homosexual that if you want to understand why
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: LGBT is in full traded, heavily infiltrated Catholic churches and
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: other denominations. That's where I would tell somebody to look.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: But a Arupe was behind Vatican Council too, so much
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: so that they call him the second founder of the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Jesuit Order. Wow, because he so dramatically changed everything that
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the Jesuits and the Vatican, the whole Catholic Church had
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: ever taught, you know, throughout their history. That's why they
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: call him the second Founder. And it's why so many
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Catholics like mel Gibson and others reject Vatican Council too.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: They see it as a betrayal of historic theology.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, the other thing that you.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, the documentary again is almost three hours of
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: just you know, I would say, goodness of exposing what's
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: happening there in the film. There's two things I would
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: love to discuss in the remaining time. Is number one.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I'd like to discuss how historically they were involved with
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Lincoln's assassination and then secondly the ways in which you
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: spent some time there in the film about how the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Jesuits were involved within World War two and Nazism. So
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: we can only do that in a few minutes, but
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: you know, talk about Lincoln for a minute, because the
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: typical views, well, Lincoln was trying to fight slavery and
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: it was just against the South, and now it's it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: But that's not necessarily you bring up other historical elements
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of how the Catholic Church was absolutely involved in supporting
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the South against the North with the desire to break
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: up or to cause weakness in the Union and really
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: to break it up, right, I mean.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, It's not that the Confederacy was a Catholic movement.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, but there were many Catholics that
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: were that were involved and politically, the Vaticans supported the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Southern Confederacy. So the Pope was the only world leader
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that wrote a letter of acknowledgment of Jefferson Davis as
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the president of the new you know, separate country exactly,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: basically a separate country.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: And that was a.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Big deal, a very very big deal. But it was
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: known that the Vatican was supporting the Confederacy. You had
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: people like Jefferson Davis. Jefferson Davis had been educated by
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Dominican priests. He had advisors who were Catholic priests. The
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: first chaplain of the Confederacy was a Jesuit. He had
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: people like John Bannon, a Confederate priest, and then the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Archbishop of New York who had double Yeah, he was
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a double agent. They called him Dagger John, John Hughes,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Archbishop Hughes, and he was called dagger John because he
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: was a very tough guy. But he seemed to outwardly
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: support Lincoln because he was based in New York. Yeah,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: he's in the North. But it was said by Chinnike
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: and others that he secretly was supporting the Confederacy politically.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And it's the politics that you know.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: That matter.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: That's where the Vatican was supporting the Confederacy because they
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: were hoping to break up the Union entirely and establish
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: what they called a Roman Catholic Empire from Mexico through
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: America all the way up into Canada. That was the plan,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: according to Chineke. And then a Union general named General
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Thomas Mayley Harris. He sat on the committee to investigate
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and came to the conclusion
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: that the Vatican and the Jesuits were the ones who
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: had trained John Wilkes Booth and the other conspirators to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: kill Lincoln. And he wrote a book years later called
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Rome's Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln. I mean,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: all of this is documented. It's been brushed under the
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: carpet for reason. Obviously, there are certain people who don't
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: want us to know about this. But the evidence was
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: so overwhelming that the United States government after the Civil
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: War broke off diplomatic relations with the Vatican for more
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: than one hundred years.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: So I mean, just just say that again, I mean
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: say that, really, people that this isn't this isn't conspiracy
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: all while they have the government of the United States government.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the United States cover because the evidence that came
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: out in court, and General Harris talks about this because
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: he sat there, he watched the witnesses come in, he
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: saw all the evidence firsthand, and he's documenting it in
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: his book. And he said, there was just no question
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: that this was a Vatican plot involving the Jesuits, who
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: are Georgetown College which became Georgetown University, which is their
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: headquarters here in the United States, that this was a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Romish plot to kill Lincoln, mainly because they were angry
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: thatcoln One because he opposed the Confederacy, but also because
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: he refused to acknowledge this European emperor that they had
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: set up down in Mexico. And this is a whole
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: chapter of the Civil War most people don't know about.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Where there was what was called the European plot. There
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: was the Monroe doctrine. President James Monroe said to the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: European countries, don't try to colonize North America. Just stay
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: out of North America because we had had all these
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: conflicts with the French, with the British, with Spain. You
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: see what I'm saying over and over again. So they said, okay,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: we're a separate country.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: This is the United States, don't try to colonize here. Well,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you had a plot involving Pope Pious the ninth, the Emperor,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Napoleon the Third of France, and then Maximilian the First
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: of Austria. So these three Catholic powers worked together to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: invade Mexico with a French army eighteen sixty two, eighteen sixty.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Two, and they invaded Mexico.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: And the idea was they were going to take control
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: of Mexico and then go up and invade the southern
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: United States and help the Confederacy defeat Lincoln. Not because
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: they were pro Confederacy, but because they wanted to break
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: up the Union. And so this is why Lincoln was
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: fighting so hard to preserve the Union. They talk about
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: that today that he preserved the Union, but the full
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: historic context is not given. That there were these powers
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: in Europe that wanted to establish this what and I'm
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: quoting General Harris now literally he says they wanted to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: establish a Roman Catholic empire from Mexico through Texas, California
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: all the way up to Canada.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Basically the west exactly.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: And so what Hinnecke says, and we talked about this
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: earlier what Chinnikee says.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Who's Shineke? For people who don't know.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Charles Hinneka was a Canadian Catholic priest who was the
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: good friend of Abraham Lincoln. He had actually migrated into
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: America with a congregation from Canada. He was the founder
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: of Saint Anne, Illinois, and he was actually a nationally
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: recognized figure.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: He was well known.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: When he died, his obituary appeared on the front page
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of the New York Times.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. So this guy of stature for sure.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: And he was Catholic.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: He did convert and become Protestant later on, but he
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: was the good friend of Abraham Lincoln. He had gotten
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: into a conflict with the church leaders in the Catholic
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Church and they dragged him into court through an agent
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: of theirs named Peter Spink, and were accusing Chineke of
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: different things. Well, long story short, Abraham Lincoln was a
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  Speaker 1: lawyer at that time, and he defended Chinneckey in court
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  Speaker 1: and won the case and had the charges thrown out
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  Speaker 1: and basically rescued chinnike from almost certain ruin. And so
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  Speaker 1: that's how they met each other and how they became friends.
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  Speaker 1: But this is years before Lincoln became president. So Shineka
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  Speaker 1: was a famous priest because in Canada he had opposed
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  Speaker 1: alcoholism and stuff like that, and so everybody thought he
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  Speaker 1: was this very virtuous man. He was well liked, well
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  Speaker 1: loved by his congregation, but he encountered the corruption from
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  Speaker 1: Rome and believed that the hierarchy was angry at Lincoln
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  Speaker 1: for defending him. And he even warned Lincoln because he
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: said he saw Jesuits in the courtroom when the trial happened,
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  Speaker 1: and when the hierarchy was defeated, he said he saw
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  Speaker 1: a look on the face of the Jesuits that they
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  Speaker 1: were eventually going to kill Lincoln.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he believed.
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  Speaker 1: But of course it didn't happen until years later when
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  Speaker 1: the Civil War happens. And so Shinek wrote two books.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote a book called fifty Years in the Church
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  Speaker 1: of Rome, where he describes his own journey, you know,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: as as a Catholic priest, and all the experiences that
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: he had, and then his relationship with Abraham Lincoln and
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  Speaker 1: how he became the friend of Lincoln. But he met
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  Speaker 1: him repeatedly in the White House and warned him because
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  Speaker 1: he believed that the Jesuits were planning and plotting to
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  Speaker 1: kill him. Now, some people would think and have tried
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: to argue that Chinneke's claims were exaggerated, or maybe he,
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  Speaker 1: you know, shouldn't be trusted this kind of thing. Later
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: historians after World War Two made those kind of claims.
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  Speaker 1: The problem is when you get to General Harris's book,
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  Speaker 1: who was a Union general, he was a doctor, he
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: sat on the court. He actually confirmed most everything that
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Chinnecke had to say, and so their views of things,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: you know, worked together, and you know, one confirms the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: witness of the other. But then when you have the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: book in the twentieth century by EMMITTT. McLaughlin which was
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  Speaker 1: called an Inquiry into the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln. McLaughlin
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  Speaker 1: was a Catholic priest and he kept hearing these stories
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  Speaker 1: this is happening in the nineteen sixties. And McLaughlin kept
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: hearing these stories about the assassination of Lincoln. He said,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: could there be anything to this? So he started investigating,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: started going through the record, church records and so on,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and he said he was just amazed at how much
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: information he uncovered. And I think one of the most
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: fascinating parts of his book because he has a lot
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: of information there. There's no way we could go over
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: all of it, but he presents a lot of documentation.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: But he says to the American people, he says, you
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: can't really understand the Civil War unless you understand what
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: was happening south of the border. And so he has
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  Speaker 1: a chapter in his book called Conspiracy South of the Border.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe that conspiracy continues.
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  Speaker 1: To this day and that that's really what's going on
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  Speaker 1: in Mexico today with this mass immigration into our country.
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  Speaker 1: Because Chinnike said in his writings that the Catholic bishops,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: this is after the Civil War, after Lincoln was assassinated,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: he said that the Catholic bishops had a meeting and
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: he basically revealed that Plan A had been trying to
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: invade America with this French army direct way, the direct way,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: force of arms, et cetera. That didn't work. That failed.
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  Speaker 1: So now Plan B, according to the Catholic Bishops, would
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: be to flood our country through Mexico with immigrants, mass
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: immigration into the country, get the immigrants into the major cities,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and then use that to eventually get control of the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: United States.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: And so so here we have you know that beginning
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: post Civil War and continuing and then here we are
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: in the last few years having it completely unleashed.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, there's even a document that we talk about
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: that Steve Matthews from the Trinity Foundation he had first
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: brought this to my attention that the Catholic Bishops of
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: America sat down with the Catholic Bishops of Mexico and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: they came up with a document called Strangers no Longer
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Together on a Journey of Hope. And it's basically a
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: plan where they agreed between themselves to mass immigrate all.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: These many as they can, as.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Many as they can through the Mexican border.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: And for the most part, you know, we've had a
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: we've had a you know, I would say, if my
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: impression is in comparison to what's currently happening in the past,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: you know, let's say the forties, fifties, sixties, we had
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: a we had a good border, right, we had we
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: had security.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think there there are border conflicts that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: go all the way back to the early twentieth century
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and they get kind of confusing. But we used to
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: defend our southern border, you know, in a very dogmatic way.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't allow it to be violated, and we were
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: a lot tougher about it, but through I think after
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: the Reagan administration, because the Reagan administration is what reopened
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: diplomatic relations with the Vaticant. That happened during the Reagan administration,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and I can only imagine it was well intended. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: can't imagine Ronald Reagan meant anything bad by it, But
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I just think he did not know about this plot
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that went back at that point about one hundred years
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: to eventually flood our country with all these immigrants, and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: that Rome is still following that plot. They've never given
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it up, and all the evidence.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Is there, and the current pope, I mean, he's pushing
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: he is. It's interesting, it's surprising, and until watching your documentary,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I never put it together. I was like, why is
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: this pope so interested in the southern border and he's
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: making comments about this our southern border a lot.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it's one hundred and twenty one hundred
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and forty year old plan that they've had. They've not
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: always been in a position to carry it out as
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: But if you look at people like Joe Biden, Joe
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Biden Jesuit educated Nancy Pelosi. She worked with John Bayner
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: to put the first Jesuit priest and as Chaplain of
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the House.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: AOC.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: She used to write for the Jesuits America magazine. You
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: have a Mayorcis's Jesuit educated. You have this whole Jesuit
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: collection of people in the Democratic Party mainly who are
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: part of this coalition to open our borders and just
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: flood the country with all of these immigrants.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely stounding, and you know we're out of time here.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: But in thinking about your again this latest documentary, we
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to go into it. But you
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: talk about World War Two, you talk about Georgetown, you
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: talk about the CIA, you talk about all these other
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: things that are happening in our current culture, Bill Clinton,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: and how it all comes back to you know, where
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: are most of the spies from. Well, they're all Georgetown educators.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, And so I mean kind of give
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: us a wrap up here again the goal of this
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: documentary that I'm again well done and what you want
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: people to get.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Well, if I can just say something about Nazi Germany
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and that whole thing. There was a priest, Catholic priest
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: named Leo Lehmann, who became a Protestant. He wrote a
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: book called Behind the Dictators during the War during World
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: War Two, a lot of books on this, and you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: we quote him in the film, but he in particular
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: set and the evidence is there that the entire Nazi
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: movement was set up by the Jesuit Order to carry
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: out their purposes, To carry out their purposes, the Holocaust,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: all the horrors of World War Two were to carry
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: out their agenda. And what happened was Germany, which had
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: been really dominated by a Protestant and freedom based worldview
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: through the nineteenth century with Otto von Bismarck, the country
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: was basically hijacked by the Jesuit Order using national socialism.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: They're the ones who developed socialism with Karl Marx. We
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: go over that in the film, and they hijack that
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: country and then use it for evil purposes. Part of
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: what I'm hoping an audience will recognize and watching American
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Jesuits is that the same thing is happening right here
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: in the United States, that these dark powers in Washington
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: are being driven by the same people who were responsible
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: for the Inquisition, who were responsible for the Saint Bartholomew's
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Day massacre, responsible for a number of atrocities that are
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: well known, and they are seizing control of our national government,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and I believe they want to use our country for
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: diabolical purposes. I think we, as God fearing Christian men
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and women, have a responsibility to resist them. The Bible
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: says resist the devil and he will flee from you.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: And I believe we've got to do all that we
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: can lift up a shout, preach the word of God,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: inform people, and hopefully we can prevent catastrophe from happening
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: to our country as it happened to Germany during the war.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Amen. Yeah, I mean these are the stakes. We know
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: where it's heading as it relates to globalism and the
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: weakness of America which stands in the way of that.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Currently in America is becoming very weak. We see it
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: all around us, and so the goal is to stay strong. Well, Chris,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: thank you for your time today. It's been awesome. If
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: you want to pick up his new documentary, Prophecywatchers dot Com,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: check it out and we have a lot of your
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: material on there, and again you will be amazed at
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: your research. So thanks everybody for listening this week again
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: the weak in Bible prophecy, trying to keep you up
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: to date on what's happening in our world, so we'll
• 49:01
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