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The Eds: unEDited with Frank Catania · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: This is the EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the EDS podcast. I'm Eddie Judge and
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  Speaker 1: I have my co host, Welcome back Brother, that's good
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  Speaker 1: to be bad. And today we have a special guest.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody who doesn't know Frank Ktanya. He's a very special guy.
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  Speaker 1: Met him a couple of times and we hit it
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  Speaker 1: off right from the start. I think I am like
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  Speaker 1: a mirror image of him, not physically because he's so
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  Speaker 1: much bigger than me, but we have a lot in common.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to get to talk to Frank,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really excited for you guys to get to
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  Speaker 1: know him. Frank Katanya is the ex husband of Dolores Katanya.
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  Speaker 1: She's from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. They're sure
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  Speaker 1: two kids together, Frank Junior and Gabby. And what makes
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  Speaker 1: Frank different from other ex husbands is the amazing relationship
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  Speaker 1: he has with Dolores and her now partner Paulie. And
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  Speaker 1: I know you guys know that we had Paulie on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast recently and you got to hear his side.
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  Speaker 1: It was so awesome, So I can't wait to hear
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  Speaker 1: of Frank's side. Plus, he's part of the Jersey Friendships
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  Speaker 1: on the show, and you know how those guys just
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  Speaker 1: get along great and put on a show. And I
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  Speaker 1: believe Frank is part of a of a show with
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  Speaker 1: Joe Gorga, so I can't wait to hear your part
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  Speaker 1: of that as well. So welcome Frank Patania.
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  Speaker 2: It's my pleasure, it's my honor to be on the edge.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're grateful to have you. And first of all,
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  Speaker 3: congratulations on getting married.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: Brittany, I heard that was a big, big surprise, big secret.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, we tried to keep it a secret from everybody
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  Speaker 4: because our wedding we did have a destination wedding and
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  Speaker 4: the hurricane destroyed that. We rescheduled and they weren't ready.
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  Speaker 4: So finally Brittany just said, you know, enough's enough.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that was it.
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  Speaker 4: So we ended up getting married and we might as
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  Speaker 4: well just jump into it. And Brittany and I got married,
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  Speaker 4: and we were married all right, by our dame minister,
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  Speaker 4: who happens to be Dolores's ex boyfriend, David.
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  Speaker 3: This is sexual.
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  Speaker 1: Let's back up a little bit. I want to get
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  Speaker 1: to know you Frank, where did you grow up? You
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  Speaker 1: know and know you're Italian?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Italian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a Jersey boy through and through and through, although
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  Speaker 4: we may be making the exit from Jersey partly, you know,
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  Speaker 4: part of the year. Okay, one more we call over
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  Speaker 4: here a snowbird. But I go ahead. Initially grew up
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  Speaker 4: in Patterson, and I had a young at a young age,
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  Speaker 4: I left the city winter, the suburb, and I've been
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  Speaker 4: in the suburbs of Jersey, uh, the Jersey Shore as well.
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  Speaker 4: You name it everything Jersey and then Guido persona and stereotype.
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  Speaker 2: I fit it all.
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  Speaker 1: So is Patterson that Guido type? Or how different is
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  Speaker 1: Patterson's from Jersey Shore from suburbs.
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  Speaker 4: Patterson Patterson itself right now, which Dolores knows like the
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  Speaker 4: back of her hand. It is a city, all right,
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  Speaker 4: definitely different than the suburbs. You know, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: so much if you've got the Guido's maybe at one
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  Speaker 4: time coming out of Patterson, but now the Guidos have
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  Speaker 4: more more into the suburbs.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So what's Patterson about now? Because I know there
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  Speaker 1: was a subject about Patterson. I just wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: to know what Patterson is all about.
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  Speaker 4: Patterson is an urban area. Okay, it's an urban area.
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  Speaker 4: Back in the day, it was when I tell you
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  Speaker 4: it was the silk the factory capital of the world.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's where something.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you still see some of the silk factories
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  Speaker 4: as well as the garment factories there and some of
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  Speaker 4: the houses that were built in Patterson. We we do
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  Speaker 4: a lot of real estate, so we we get them
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  Speaker 4: now many many years later. They have wouldwork inside these places, guys,
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  Speaker 4: which you never when you hear about Patterson, you would
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  Speaker 4: never expect inside these they will never be duplicated. They
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  Speaker 4: would never be duplicated. The architecture inside some of the
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  Speaker 4: buildings there. It's a great city. It's a great city.
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  Speaker 4: It truly is. But it's a city. It is a city.
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  Speaker 1: So does it resemble Italian architecture and you know, really
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  Speaker 1: unique things or are we talking about shitholes?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, it's not so much a shithole. But I gotta
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  Speaker 4: be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's Italians. Italians came here of this. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: We're at the bottom of a total pole. Okay, Patterson
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  Speaker 4: was already here. The garment districts were already here. The
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  Speaker 4: silk factories were already here, so that they were all
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  Speaker 4: basically by non Italians. We came in and we worked there,
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  Speaker 4: all right, we worked there. You initially, we started at
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  Speaker 4: the bottom of the total pole. So Patterson itself didn't
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  Speaker 4: have Italians one hundred percent. There are certain areas of
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  Speaker 4: Patterson where it was all Italian. Since that time, it
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  Speaker 4: has since changed, all right, it's not so much, which
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  Speaker 4: you know, Italian now anymore. The Italians moved out into
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  Speaker 4: the suburbs. But yes, there it was. When I tell
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  Speaker 4: you that there was definitely an Italian heritage in Patterson. Everybody,
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  Speaker 4: everybody you talked to in this area of New Jersey,
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  Speaker 4: either they or their family came from Patterson.
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  Speaker 1: Did you meet the Laurus in Patterson?
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  Speaker 4: I met the laurd Now, I didn't meet the Lauris
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  Speaker 4: in Patterson, although you know, we had a huge nexus
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  Speaker 4: in Patterson. I went to a retirement dinner for a judge.
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  Speaker 4: When I was there, Delores and her mom were waitresses
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  Speaker 4: all right at this banquet center, and I just said
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  Speaker 4: to myself, holy shit, she's fucking gorgeous, all right, in
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  Speaker 4: a big pussy that I am. Guys, I didn't approach her, right,
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  Speaker 4: I had one of my associate lawyers at that time.
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  Speaker 2: I said, go talk to her for me, go talk
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  Speaker 2: to him anyway.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I got her phone number and ever since
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  Speaker 4: then that was it hit it off.
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  Speaker 1: So you just hit on something really unique that I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to ask about, and that's law. Were you a lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: a law clerk, or aolved in law?
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  Speaker 2: I was a lawyer. I was a lawyer for yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for twenty three years. I was a lawyer.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, yeah, I was the head prosecutor for the
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  Speaker 4: city of Hackensack.
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  Speaker 2: I was a prosecutor another township I was. I was
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  Speaker 2: well respected. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I did a lot of criminal law. I did a
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  Speaker 4: lot of divorced law. I specialized in real estate law,
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  Speaker 4: all right, not only closing but also real estate litigation.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I always wondered as a prosecutor, are you like fearing
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  Speaker 3: for your life at times? Are you always looking over
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  Speaker 3: your shoulder or is it no big deal?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? You normally?
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  Speaker 4: Possibly, yes, you would have to look at guys. I
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  Speaker 4: was always fair and honestly. I did one good thing
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  Speaker 4: about the Housewives, which I just throw out through real quick.
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  Speaker 4: I love the fact that everybody comes up and says,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, you're such a good guy in the show.
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  Speaker 4: That's all right, that's truly me, and that passed on
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  Speaker 4: to me being a prosecutor as well. If you come
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  Speaker 4: to if you come to Jersey, you go down to
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  Speaker 4: the Jersey Shore, you got the boardwalk and you're walking
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  Speaker 4: down and people always recognize you and notice it. And
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  Speaker 4: when they come up, it's funny because you don't know
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  Speaker 4: how to act first, because I don't know whether they
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  Speaker 4: know me from I want to come up. I went
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  Speaker 4: to school with them. I don't know if they knew
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  Speaker 4: me from a prosecutor, or they know or they knew
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  Speaker 4: me from the show. Well one, I'm more than a cat,
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  Speaker 4: more than a cat. But the one good thing is
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  Speaker 4: and guys, it's probably a dozen times I've had people
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  Speaker 4: come up to me and you realize that that you
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  Speaker 4: know them as you prosecuted them, and they would say
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  Speaker 4: to me, you know, thank you so much. I said,
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  Speaker 4: if it wasn't for you, listen, I had an addiction.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't put me, you didn't put me in jail.
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  Speaker 4: You believed in me, and look, this is my family.
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  Speaker 4: They'd introduced me to their kids. Then and I was
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  Speaker 4: more than fair. I was more than fair, because guys, listen,
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  Speaker 4: there's many times unfortunately I was on the opposite the
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  Speaker 4: other end of the law. It's out there, you know,
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  Speaker 4: when you get into housewives. I don't have to tell you, guys, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Everything's open book, everything comes out.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was arrested when I was at law school, all right.
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  Speaker 4: So as much as I got lawyer, as much as
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  Speaker 4: I got it expunged, I gotta be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's still out there.
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  Speaker 3: What were you What were you arrested for? I don't
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  Speaker 3: know one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I was arrested for. I was arrested
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  Speaker 2: for drugs. I was arrested for drugs, and you name it.
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  Speaker 4: I was admitted to practice law in New Jersey while
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  Speaker 4: on probation on a criminal matter, which.
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  Speaker 2: I was the first one out there, all right. Not
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  Speaker 2: only did I had a a.
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  Speaker 4: Period of probation with a probation officer, but I also
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  Speaker 4: had an appointed attorney who was my legal probation officer.
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  Speaker 4: Uh in the attorney aspect, right. So so yes, guys,
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  Speaker 4: there's not.
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  Speaker 2: One side of me, there's no many sides.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Any side, well, I guess the good news with that
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  Speaker 3: is you get to think like both sides, right, You're
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  Speaker 3: knowing you're a prosecutor.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why I was more than fair, because if
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  Speaker 4: I didn't get it, if I didn't get that chance,
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  Speaker 4: I would never be where.
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  Speaker 2: I was today. I would never be where I was today.
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  Speaker 4: And I always tried to, you know, I always tried
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  Speaker 4: to give everyone a second chance. I've seen, unfortunately, I've
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  Speaker 4: seen the firsthand. I don't care what part of the
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  Speaker 4: spectrum you are on when it comes to wealth, because
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  Speaker 4: there's certain areas of Bergen County which have some of
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  Speaker 4: the richest townships in the country, which would show up.
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  Speaker 4: I was in Hackensack, which is basically the hub of
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  Speaker 4: Bergen County, so you would see people coming there who
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  Speaker 4: are just mega rich. And over a period of six
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  Speaker 4: months that I'm handling this case, you'll you'll see the parents,
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  Speaker 4: the parents age aged fifteen years having a child that
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  Speaker 4: they could to hireman. All right, but they go through
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  Speaker 4: and you know, I'm happy. I'm happy, Listen. I am
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  Speaker 4: absolutely no regrets. There's many things I got regrets about,
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  Speaker 4: but not anything to do with me being a prosecutor.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 3: At that moment the catalyst to change your life around,
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  Speaker 3: Like just hitting, was that like a rock bottom moment
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  Speaker 3: for you that just kind of made you flip the
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  Speaker 3: switch and say, I want to do some different.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I've had a lot of those rock bottom because
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  Speaker 4: I guys, on a daily basis, I go to the
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  Speaker 4: top of the mountain. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: I may be that's my life, guys, all right, that's
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  Speaker 4: my life. So yes, it was to a point where
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  Speaker 4: you want somebody gave me a second chance, all right?
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  Speaker 2: And what am I to do? Put you in jail?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 4: Because what we did do sometimes is you know, I
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  Speaker 4: would give someone a jail sentence or recommend the jail
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  Speaker 4: sentence if there was no other way to get them
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  Speaker 4: to stop. Because listen, if you're incarcerated, all right, if
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  Speaker 4: we incarcerate you for less than a less than a year,
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  Speaker 4: you stay in county jail, all right. And if you're
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  Speaker 4: in a county jail, I'm gonna be honest, it's almost
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  Speaker 4: nearly impossible for you to get drugs in there, so
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  Speaker 4: it's almost like a forced detox, all right. And other
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  Speaker 4: than that, no, man, I'm not gonna you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not gonna put you in I'm not going to course,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna put you in jail for.
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  Speaker 1: Something that that speaks volumes of you because I you know,
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  Speaker 1: my experience in the law, it's it's changed me a
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  Speaker 1: little bit where I would say the majority of the
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  Speaker 1: lawyers that have ever come across are just pieces of ships.
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  Speaker 1: They may one hundred are actually like respectable and really
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  Speaker 1: care for you know, a good outcome or I should
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  Speaker 1: say a fair outcome, right, So that speaks volume to you, Frank,
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  Speaker 1: and I have a lot of respect for that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you are a good guy.
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  Speaker 2: You know I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: Man. I trying to think so and guys, I put
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  Speaker 4: it out there so many different times. I always consider
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  Speaker 4: myself to be somewhat of a good guy. But I
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  Speaker 4: went further in two thousand and seven my mother passed away,
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  Speaker 4: and guys, that changed everything.
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  Speaker 2: That changed everything.
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  Speaker 4: You realize, you realize you want to know something really
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  Speaker 4: that's that's important. Important things that I things I used
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  Speaker 4: to get mad at that things I used to set
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  Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed now, you know to say you know, I
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  Speaker 4: say it all the time. I have a screensaverer on
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  Speaker 4: my computer at work. It's a big screen and as
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  Speaker 4: this little kid, he's got to be maybe seven years old.
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  Speaker 4: He's crossing a finish line, all right. You can see
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  Speaker 4: he's running a race. He's crossing a finish line. He's
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  Speaker 4: got his hands up in the air. He's got a
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  Speaker 4: huge smile on his face. All right, but we don't
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  Speaker 4: see is he scanned down. He's got two prosthetic legs.
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  Speaker 4: You want to know something, bro, If he can smile
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  Speaker 4: and he could love life, the way is who the
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  Speaker 4: fuck am I to complained about the things that I
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  Speaker 4: can play?
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  Speaker 2: All right? And I mean, you know, I was embarrassed.
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  Speaker 2: I was embarrassed to myself.
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  Speaker 4: My god, I can't believe you're getting met So yes,
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  Speaker 4: truly that that was a changing moment in my life.
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  Speaker 2: And Dolores, Dolorous and her family were also a changing
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  Speaker 2: moment in my life. And now my present wife is
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  Speaker 2: just a sweetheart. She is happy all the time.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it never gives me grief. There's no drama.
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  Speaker 4: Always the glasses half full, ber right.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the key to that is surrounding yourself
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  Speaker 1: with those kinds of people, you know, the people that
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  Speaker 1: see the glass have full instead of half empty, and
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  Speaker 1: everything's positive and we all get kicked down and you know,
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  Speaker 1: shit happens and we got to just get back up
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  Speaker 1: and do life. And it's how you do it that determines,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the true outcome. You can have a good
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  Speaker 1: positive attitude push through the you know, adversaries, or you
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  Speaker 1: can sit back and drink and smoke and do drugs
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  Speaker 1: and mess your life up and say, oh it's it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, I deserve better than this, but you can't
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  Speaker 1: get yourself out of that hell hole. So it's it's definitely,
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  Speaker 1: it definitely helps to be surrounded by good, good, positive
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  Speaker 1: people and it sounds like that's your circle.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I had Polly on our podcast recently and held me
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  Speaker 1: the dynamics of your relationship and I was blown away.
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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, you guys go to dinner together with the
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  Speaker 1: ex'es and yeah, and even he.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't initially, it wasn't initially like that. All he came
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  Speaker 2: in and I said, man, do me a favor. I said,
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  Speaker 2: just just see it, you know. And and the thing
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  Speaker 2: is he had he had an issue because one of them.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was new to him.
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  Speaker 4: It was new and that he wasn't used to that.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, and I used to talk to Dolores
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  Speaker 4: because I know Polly had an issue with it. I said, Doloris,
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  Speaker 4: let him just see us together. And when you see
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  Speaker 4: us together, the last thing you got to worry about
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  Speaker 4: is that, you know, honestly, of anything there between me
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  Speaker 4: and Dolores.
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  Speaker 1: All right, how would you describe that relationship then my
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  Speaker 1: brother's sister.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, honestly, this Dolores is an incredible person, and an
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  Speaker 4: incredible person, guys, I'm lucky to have met her and
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  Speaker 4: her family.
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  Speaker 2: I'm honestly at her family.
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  Speaker 4: They they showed me a whole nother caring side and
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  Speaker 4: everything else, and and and delorious Delrius is a realist,
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  Speaker 4: all right, Laurias said to me, listen, do me a favor.
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  Speaker 4: It came into the relations every man cheats, all right,
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  Speaker 4: every man cheats, all right, do me a favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Don't beat me, all right? Come home at night, and
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  Speaker 2: don't make a fool out of me.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why I couldn't come home at night.
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  Speaker 1: I try one thing, to do one thing, but you know, and.
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  Speaker 4: Again, even to the point where to show you what
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  Speaker 4: a woman Dolorous was I end up cheating, guys, I
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  Speaker 4: ended up cheating one of my divorce clients, no less,
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  Speaker 4: all right, all right, So after about four months and
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  Speaker 4: I was running around.
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  Speaker 2: The Laurius came up to me and it's the kind
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  Speaker 2: of woman is, Frank, do me a favorite? Honestly?
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  Speaker 4: Come home now, come home now. I will never mention
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  Speaker 4: this woman again. All right, let's move forward. And guys, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't do it because I did love her so much.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, Dolorous, I hope you understand what I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna say. I can't say that I wouldn't do it
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  Speaker 4: again right now. I don't trust myself, and I can't
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  Speaker 4: see putting you through the hurt that I saw her
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  Speaker 4: go through, all right, when I say she was my partner,
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  Speaker 4: all right, so as Dolorus will say, Dolorus divorced me
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  Speaker 4: in order to keep our family together, right, And and
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: that's exactly it, man, bro. There's no separate vacations, there's
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: no separate birthdays for the kids, there's no separate kid Christmas.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: She saw me go through that with my parents, all right,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: and she said that's not going to happen to us,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: right quite honestly, I get anoledge you. I don't think
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: my kids until they were like eighteen years old, you
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: realize that we were divorced. I think they just think
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: we lived separate and had separate relationships with different people.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: All right, How old were the kids when that happened?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: It starts the kids were young, all right, when a
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: ship hit the fan. My son was just my son
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: is just that's Eddie and Eddie. Let me tell you
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: somethingbout my timing could have been a.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Worse Yeah, I could have been, all right, could have been.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: And how long were you guys married at that point?
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I think yeah, we were probably married is seventy seven?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Eight years all right before we ended up getting divorced.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: But she did.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: She put her feelings of personal feelings aside in order
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: that our kids would not suffer in any way whatsoever. Okay,
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: when I tell you, oh, you know the joint trips,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: you name it, all right. Our divorce was nasty. Our
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: divorce is nasty. What you see now is what the
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: culmination of a very nasty divorce?
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Well, can you elaborate a little bit more about that?
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Because I would imagine with having such a great ability
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to communicate and put the bad feelings aside that the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: divorce would have been smooth. So what made it nasty?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Exactly what you mentioned before? Attorneys.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Attorney, right, my attorney, because listen, first of all, you
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: never represent yourself, right yeah, any attorney that represents itself
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: as a.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Fool for a client, all right, too smart?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Oh listen, hi, guys. I felt guilty, all right.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: And at the time that we were getting divorced, we
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: were doing very very well, all right, So I said,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: do Loris, I apologize here, let me get and I
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: made an offer to her, and it was more. And
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I did divorce, so I know it was much more
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: that the court would give her, all right, Me and
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Doris and then her attorney at the time, he kept
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: saying no, no, no, and I'm like, Delors, please don't,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: let's not go to court. We ended up going to court.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: And while we're in court and basically judge made a
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: ruling that Delors was entitled to it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Was a little bit more than half what I offered her. Yeah, right.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: We walked out of the courtroom. Dolors looked to me
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: and she goes this, and I'm not going to fight you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to fight you.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: And ever since then, Dolors and I have never looked
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: at our property sell grieving.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: When it came to money, if.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I had it, she had it, all right. She knew
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: the business that I was in. She knew that that
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: that we had peace and valleys throughout the year. So
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: there are certain times where she got much more. There
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: were certain times that we're slow. I said, the work
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: with me, all right, And Dolores is a beast in
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: a good way, all right. When things got rough, Delorius
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: went back to school to become a surgical tech.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: She bartended at night. And then when things are good,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I mean the listen she did. She reaped the benefits,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: all right. She reaped the benefits. And one of the
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: thing which I do say is, you know is I
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: tried as hard as I could to make sure that
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: my children and Dolores, all right, didn't suffer whatsoever. I
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: was a single guy at the time. I was living
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: on my own, all right, listen, and I lived comfortably.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: But if someone had to take a hit.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I would it would be me, all right.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: And so yeah, we went through and it finally got
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: to a point where Delorus do me favor, just gave
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: me a shorthouse. We just ended up building a new shorehouse,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: all right. And Dolores said, okay, came down, packed her
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: bag down here, so and she wasn't upset. And next
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: thing you know, she went from the third floor where
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the bedroom is, down to the second floor and unpacked
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: her suitcase on the second floor. And I said, what
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: are you doing? Guys like guys when she said to me,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: she says, I said you can have the house. I
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: didn't say I wasn't going to use it. She basically
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: took another bedroom in the house. And guys still to
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: this day, de Laurius comes down. It's it's the one
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: place where the kids get older and they have their
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: own lives. It's the only place that everyone gets together,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: all right. And that's the and that that that signifies
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: the type of relationship Dolorus and I.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Have, yeah, you know.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: But and so Paulie came along, and Paulie wasn't used
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: to it. And you asked, You asked, daddy, you know
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: what kind of relationship. It got to the point where,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: almost like exactly that De Laius. I love Delorius probably
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: as much as I love anyone else in my life.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: My children. Brittany you name it, all right, She's that
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: important to me because of what she allowed to keep
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: our family together, all right, where she sactified personally in
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: order to keep our family together. I can never thank
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: her for, all right.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: So we've always been good. But again to the point,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: More like she's my younger, my younger sister, right where
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I protect her, I will, I will. She calls me
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: at three o'clock in the morning, she needs me, I
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: will go. And I can tell you right now, Brittany
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have a problem with it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Brittany. Brittany saw Mina Dolores's relationship like eight years before
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: you know we got serious.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: You were friends, right, yes, yes, exactly. There's a lot
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of history there.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: So she saw, she saw the relationship with Dolores and I,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: so she knew that there was nothing to worry about.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: So that's when when Polly came around initially, all right,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And one thing about Paulie, I can tell you something
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: place in Paulie and I are in the same certain ways,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: but we're different. You don't have to guess where you
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: staying with Polly, right, paul Polis is straightforward as they come.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Man, he's got an issue. He'll tell you, all right,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: he'll tell you. That's one good thing about him.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So I kept saying, just let Holy be
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: around us when we're all together, so little, but little
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: by little, all right, he did. And now, honestly, guys,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: the relationship amongst all of us is great.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: It was surprising to hear his side, and he said
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. He was a little apprehensive at first,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: but the minute he got comfortable. I mean, he loves
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the entire family, including you, including your family, her family, everybody.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: It's just incredible family.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: He's got incredible boys. He's got great, two great sons.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Good, So I said to them all the time. You
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: know the fact, if they didn't, they weren't so irish.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I said to Paulie, I didn't check
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: the DNA because I don't believe they're yours.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Way too nice.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: So I have an interesting question for you. So obviously
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you met Dolores. You, you were obviously very attracted to her.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: You like, who is this I need to talk to
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: the scroaches, the most gorgeous gro I've ever seen, probably
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: at the time, right, at what point did you go
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: more towards friend zone, like did you were you still
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: married or was it after that you started seeing her
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: as a friend or was it during the marriage that
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: you guys sort of became friends and then that's what
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: ultimately led you to, you know, start doing your thing.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Delorius.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I always to this day I think Delorius is a
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: beautiful woman, attractive, you name it all, right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: A right.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: It was the point in time where I think where
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: said I can't come home, I can't pretty metre of fact,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I can't hurt you yet, I can't hurt you again,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: and and and then and then and then it then
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: it changed right then it then it changed so and again.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: You know, it's just I still absolutely care for her,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: love her like the way I did when we're married
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: and everything.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: It's just a different love guys.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally understand that. Yeah, very selfless
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of you.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, most would just keep on doing it if they
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: get the chance to just continue to do that, just
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: keep on doing it. It was very selfless of you
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: to actually walk away at that point, because that's you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: when you can get the best of all.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: The worlds it, you know, the Lawyusser, the Wrus doesn't cry, right,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: the lorus doesn't cry.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Oh no, man, you have no idea.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I think I think, I think I know like maybe
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: three instances that the ruses ever crist all right, and
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: and I knew how upset you know, our relationship, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: and and and me being unfaithful hurt her. Guys, I
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: just couldn't. I couldn't do it again. I couldn't do
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: it again, all right, me, honestly, I'm different. You know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I watched Extreme Makeover on TV. I start crying, right,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I'm a pussy, Guys, I'm gonna emotional. And as you
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: get older, you get.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: More and more. Oh, by the way, Frank, I wanted
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to before I forget to mention this nice teeth like them,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: we got the same teeth.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I love those guys. They did such a great job.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: You guys went to the same people Texas.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're awesome. Let me tell you, I have nothing
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: but great things to say about that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed being with, you know, just meeting them,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: getting to know them, and how they take care of us.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And you know, they did tell me they took really
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: good care of you too.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Well. Listen that Eddie and Eddie both of you is
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: all right. Listen, Like I said, I'm an open book.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they told you this down smile Texas.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: All right now I told you before I'm gonna win,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: all right, So you got to put me under, all right?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Oh you went under?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Oh I went under. I went up. Oh dude, yeah yeah,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I'm a pussy bro.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: So next day, so next thing, you know, now, Britt, Britt,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: we went together, right, we went one time, and we
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: knew we had to come back in two weeks. So
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: the first time we come down, they do the grinding
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: and everything else. They make the molds. You know, Britt
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: stays awake all right, she can handle pain. It's amazing me.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm okay.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: They put me under. All right, we wake up. Brittany's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: already up standing next to me. I get up, all right,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: wake it up. This and that.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Lady says to me, I'm sorry, I spilled you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: water all over you. Brittany said, no, no, no, tell
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: the truth.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: All right. I pissed myself okay while I'm under. So
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: now we got to come back in two weeks.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: So the lady says to me, you know, you do
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: you get like those male diapers, you know, you don't
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: even know.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: So next time we fly back down to Houston, we're
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: driving there. We stopped at either wal Grade or CVS.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: So I look at brit I said, Brittin, I'm not
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: going in, all right. She goes, I'm not going in.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I said, no, you need to go in at least
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: at least if you get them, all.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Right, like you're buying tampons, bro at least if you buy.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Them, they know they're not for you, all right. So
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: she goes inside. She comes back in the car. She
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: tossed them at me.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: All right, she was really I thought it was gonna
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: be at least twenty five years before I had to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: do this for you, all right. Anyway, I got him,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and this time I was under and I didn't even
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: pissed myself. It was a waste, right, better be sorry exactly.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's why. But they were still they were
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: They felt so bad for me. They won't to even
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: tell me the truth. Yeah right, got a smile.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Texts amazing. Yeah, I always recommend them. They just the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: way they take care of you, the hospitality and everything
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: about Texas. I really enjoy it. But people were super,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: super good to us.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, for sure, for sure, I didn't know that Eddie,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't know he learned something along the way.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: So we talked about a little bit about you growing up.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Do you have siblings? I do?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I do I have a sister.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: She's shoking at me, all right, she's a doctor, all right.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: At my initially growing up, because I get into my
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: children as well. I wanted to be a vetinaryan, all right.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be a vetnaariry and I always worked
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: for vetinary in high school. My dad pulled every string
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: he could and got me into Cornell, all right. At
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: that time was the number one veterinary school.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, now.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: My father, my father was a lawyer, all right, well respected,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: and I got there the guys, when I tell you,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I fit in like a whore in church, okay, all right,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: that's put it lightly right.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: So I'm dad, I'm leaving. I gotta get out of here. No,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you got to state here in this way. I said,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to even be a veniry, naymore,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be a lawyer. Oh my god,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: don't be a lawyer. I'm a lawyer. That's not what
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: he used to be.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I ended up believe I ended up leaving, all right.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I went to the University of Delaware. My dad didn't
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: even talk to me. I didn't even see him for
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: like six months, all right. So anyway, is that Dad's
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: why I went there, ended up becoming a lawyer that way.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: But my daughter basically finished what I couldn't do, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: he became a veterinarian.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: That's very cool.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: That's a great story. What does your son do?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: My son? One thing? I have both my children, all right,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: which to both work on pollocks.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: My son, my son works up Park Avenue, New York,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: all right, for a huge a huge investment in fact,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I think believe it's the second largest in the country.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: It's it's a large investment firm of which he's there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: He's part of a very elite group there, and he's
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: he's doing great. Both and then knockout one guys. Both
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: my children, you know, both my children are doing fabulous.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: So it goes to show you that divorce children do
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: not need to be offended by divorce.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I think, what do you think instilled that work ethic
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: in them to succeed on their own? Obviously you were,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: you were already successful and you know a lot of
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: people that's one of the hard things. When you're successful
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: and you're bringing up your kids. A lot of times
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: they feel like they don't have to work for it
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: because they sort of get everything right. What do you
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: think you did to instill that mindset for both of them,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: because again, both of those careers aren't easy to get.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. And there's three things with respect to that.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Number one, Dolores has always worked more than one job
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: since she was fourteen years old, but always worked, all right.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: But education in her family was not a big thing,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: all right. That was the decided to go to you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: the college great if not, you know, not a big
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: deal all right. In my family, education was everything, all right.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: So I think between on her side, all right, being
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: the work ethic, and on my side being the education
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: all right. And then also Dolorus and I at the
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: same point is my kids growing up pretty much did
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: not want for anything but for one second, all right,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: if you act spoiled, if you ever act like when
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: we'll spoil children, we will take everything away from it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: We'll take everything away from you, all right. And Delorus
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: is more to displaying every than I am. All right,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: not that I won't yell and scream like a normal Italian.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: And five minutes I'm back to normal, all right. But
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: they're afraid of them, they're afraid of the laws. Delrius
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: is a badass. I'm not gonna lirie to you.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: She's tough. She's tough, all right.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: She after we met, she became a correction officer, all right,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: in the jail into jail, transporting prisoners.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Eight months, eight months into.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Her pregnancy for our daughter, I get a call from
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: her chief Frankie got to get her out of here.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: He goes, I can't be responsible, all right, she's an animal,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: all right.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: But that was it. The Lauria stopped working at that point.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: We got some good story. Wait, we got some good stories.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Maybe one day, Bonzie, when when all maybe all four
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: of us will come on, the Laurus will tell you
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: some of the stories along the way. When when, oh yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: when I got caught cheating, Guys, everybody gets everybody gets accused, all.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Right, not me.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I want to hear her side.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Bro, you don't have to.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Say, because the Lorius, the Laurius can be more absolutely normal. Guys,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: She'll kiss you hug you even if she suspects anything,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: because she's building a case against you, right, And when
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: the Laurus confronted me, all right, back then, it was
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: the VHS tapes, right, she had she had me dead
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: to right here, debt to right there.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, do it guys, listen, did she play
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the video for you? No, not the video, she.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Played the videos because when she put the first video in,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: and I, guys, I'm stunned, I'm like, funk, what do
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I do now? I'm like that that's not me?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: She was, Are you really gonna try this?
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: This is not you? I said, no, I mean it
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: looks like maybe that's not me. Sounds did you put
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: you in the next VHS? All right, that's not you again?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: All right? Well that whoever it isn't you was driving
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: your fucking car, all right, dude.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: So I remember she grew up in a family of
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: all cops, all right, so she knew she had me
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: dead to write. And I never suspected anything because I
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: would come home and she kissed me, hugged me while
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: she's investigating me.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Man, she should have been a lawyer. So did she
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: take those tapes to the court? You said it was
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: a messy divorce court. Did she show up with the tapes?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: She would have in a second. But the thing about
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: New Jersey, I'm like California, all right, where what's called
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: an equital distributions. It's a no full no full divorce,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: all right. So if you're getting divorced, it's fifty to fifty. Yeah, okay,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: you no matter who's right, who's wrong, you name it,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: all right, thank god?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: All right? Or I would have to defend myself way
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: beyond that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: That's funny.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you another question that I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: really really enjoyed. I mean, Paulie and I were laughing
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: her ass off. But he when he was talking about
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you and how amazing you guys are together, he mentioned
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: that you came up with a nickname for him.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And oh, buzz light Year, that's the light Year.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Come on, bro, guys, guys, tell me the truth when
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: you're when you guys are having a podcast, when you're.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: At you're telling me. Once you mentioned it, he don't look.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Like yes, it made a lot of sense.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: He's a good looking guy.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Man, he's a good looking guy. Listen, one thing, one thing,
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: paul He's got on me. All right, Well, you got
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: your teeth, I got teeth.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I do everything, all right, I got much first of all,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I got much more uch, bigger legs than he does too. Right,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: But the one thing I can't, guys, I can be honest,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: is that fucking hair his he's got hair. You got
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a beautiful head of hair. Bround myself next week or something,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But now that makes sense now because he actually came
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: back and said, he calls you potato, mister potato head,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and mister h has no hair.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: He's got no hair. Bro, You ever see you ever
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: see mister potato heads arms and legs?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Come on?
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, bro, come on, man, I give you
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: something better than that. But can I tell you something.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I think that that almost opened up.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Opening his eyes a little bit, right when he realized
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: honestly busting his balls, he started busting back in the sea,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: you know. And you know so as much as as
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: much as it was a little bit serious both ways,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: all right, it was joking, and I think it opened
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: up some avenues for me and him.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I think anytime you can laugh about anything, you know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: just make light of things, even some serious things. You
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: just have to be able to laugh about them, because
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: life doesn't that be that serious. It really doesn't.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Since you and Delores are obviously great, great friends, did
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: you get to give approval on who she dated or
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: do you give a ship for guys that she dated?
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Like why are you dating that loser? Why are you
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: dating this guy? Or did you stay out of the way.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: It's a great question, Edwin.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you something.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Listen, Delorius Delriss. She's very very strong will all right,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: very strong will. All right.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So she was dating this one guy at one time,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: all right, and I know they had to a fight
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and he said something or another which was not nice.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, So I call him, I call
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: him up, all right, I.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Said, this is me, right, you treat her respect. I
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: swear to God, I will suck you up. All right,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: all right, I sure it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I got to call out of my relationship. That's all
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: you had to say. No more last time I got approval,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: last time I was asked. I didn't even get involved anymore.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: If you need me, I'm here, all right.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I thought I was.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: I thought I was doing a good thing. And I
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: got screaming, yelled at by her. And there are two
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: people I don't like being screamed and yelled at by dolorous.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And my daughter, all right, I bett, is your daughter
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: a lot like Dolores.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: My daughter is a lot like Dolorous And I right, okay,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: she when it comes to humans, she is so non sympathetic.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, come doing animal animals, guys. Is our house.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Our house is a free dolorous old houses, a free
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: for all.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: But she's everything's about animals, and everything's about animals. But
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: at the same time, this my daughter, guys, you know
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: iticed I got a story for everything, all right. So
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: we just don't gyms, all right, We just dont big gems,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: you know, the golden gyms, the powerhouse gyms. And we
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: had one real big gym, and in there we had
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: the mma training, right. So as soon as we opened
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: up and we had the hands of Gracie jiu jitsu
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: in there, now my daughter wants to get involved. So
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: she's there and next thing, you know, look, there's no
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: teenagers in the class. There's no females in the class,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: all right. So she's sporn with grown ass men, all right,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: disocated he elbow, dissipated her shoulder. You know, she don't
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: care my daughter is. She's tough, all right. So now
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: we start seeing her doing the jiu jitsu, all right,
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: I go and bring this guy in from Russia, all right,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: to start down with the takedowns, all right.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Then we do it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Then we do the way tie with the kicking. Now
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: we got a guy striking. So my daughter's a badass,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: all right, he really is before, all right. So we're talking,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Me and Dolores are talking to her, and we say, listen, gab,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: this is for more your protection. You don't ever go
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: out in sight a fight with somebody and use this,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: all right. So as I'm explaining to her, Dolors is
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: there and say, you know, someone starts with your gab,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: you you make sure that they know, all right, you
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: get them down you don't, and you'll tell them don't
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: screw with you again, all right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: And that's basically where I stopped. Right Then Dolores, you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: jumps in and then you stomp on their head like
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: they're around fire. All right, right.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: I was like, that goes to show you the difference
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: of personality the Laurus and I all right, yeah, And
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: it also it also goes over into the Housewives of
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: New Jersey don't push the lris, all right, but the
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: ones who know.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Her know not to get her beyond that point because
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the laws.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Listen, guys, the hardest I haven't been many many fights
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: in my life, and the hardest I've ever been punched
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: is by the worse.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the real Housewife experience since you
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: mentioned it. How was the experience going on the show? Like,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: how did you guys find out? You guys were cast
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: or invited to be on the show.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: And when the New Jersey initially started, all right, Delorus
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: is part of that initial group, okay, right, And even
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: we weren't married, as I said, we were very close.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: She came to me and asked me, and she basically
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: said our kids were too young.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right? That she passed on it, all right.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: But for the first I think it was seven seasons,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Dolores was almost a friend of or she'd appear as
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: because she was friends with everybody on there, all right,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: whether it be Teresa, whether it be Dina, you name it,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: all right. And my kids, my kids were on little
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: by little, so they came back to her, I think
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: it was season seven or season eight, and then they
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: asked her again and she said yes. All right, she
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: said yes because our kids were now older. All right, guys,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: how I got involved? I have absolutely no idea. She's
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: my ex wife at the time. She had a boyfriend
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: at the time, all right. And when I first came on,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: you know, because I was building a house for her. Guys,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I got hit pretty hard social media. Right, Thank god,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: they listen. I told my kids everything beforehand. My kids
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: knew everything about me. They've always known it, all right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: So now comes out that I'm arrested. Now comes out
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: that I'm You're gonna get this bored?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: All right? You name it? Guys said everything everything.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, wow, this isn't for me. Man,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: get my ass kicked you, all right. I made the
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: mistake and what you guys understand of responding to people.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: On social media. Okay, but you can never win.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: All right, you can never win. So then, you know what,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I just started acting myself. I just started acting myself.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: And then it turned. It turned dramatically, where, oh what
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: a nice guy Frank is?
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Wow, this and that? Why doesn't Polly like him? All right?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: You name it. So for the most part after that,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: it's been ninety five percent, all right, good. It's been
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: ninety five percent good. And guys, let me tell you,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you know, you do cameo cameo.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I've done over five thousand cameos because I enjoy it,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: all right, I enjoy it. Some people call me who
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: tell me, oh, my friend so who her mom passed? Guys,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm true, I'm true. I'm doing a cameo for somebody.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: I start crying. I start crying.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: They almost like, oh, man, so, and it's me. It's
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: really what you see is what you get. So for
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the most part, I gotta be honest. There's nothing.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: I love with the consequences that have come from the
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Real Housewives, all right, And we found out no matter
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: where you go anywhere in the world. You know, we
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: went down to the Bahamas down down there, and guys,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: you could have walked fifty feet without being approached and
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: everything else. And Brittany's great that way because it's normally
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: very very respectful. Yeah, so, you know, I try to
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: keep it nice every morning still to this point. And
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: then britt has total access to my phone. I get DMS,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: I get videos where like, guys, you know, you gotta
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: like turn the phone like like, what the hell is this.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And then I realized, you know, is Brittany on the show.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Brittany's been on the show many of times, all right,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: but Brittany, Brittany is just a good, happy person, all right,
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: and you know, just a nice person. So they've asked
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: her to come on more and more, all right. Well,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: I basically limit her on the show coming to good
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: events where I know there's gonna be a free for
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: all breakdown, right because she's she's doesn't have a thin
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: skin anymore. And then one good thing about it, which
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: is a great storyline, is the ex wife protecting a
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: new wife.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she sticks up for her, right, she sticks
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: up for her. But anybody on the show she got
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: break kids alone, basically everybody on the show, all right.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: And our experience, our experience on the show, and a
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: lot of it has to do with the guys on
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: our show. I think it takes a step further than
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: all of the other franchises.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: We we always even if our wives had problems or
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: ex wives or whatever, it normally would not allow that
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: to get in the way of us.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, and that's a normal thing. That's what a normal
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: guy does experience. I have experience on our show, exactly
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: what you're getting at. My friendship with David and David
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and I were probably one of the only ones that
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: got along on the show the many years that have
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: been on. Now you know, I've grown to like Terry.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: He's he's actually a really cool, down earth stateforward guy.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: And then Shane of course again straight shooters. It goes
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: back to being authentic and real, just being themselves. That's
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: that's all you need to avoid or kind of skate
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: through all the stupidity of the show where people say, Hey,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: your hair's not long enough, your eyes aren't blue enough,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you're you know, your smile is not big enough. You're
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: never gonna make everybody happy. But the relationships you guys
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: have in Jersey, I've always talked about that, always said,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you guys, there's a dynamic there where you have a history.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: You guys really know each other, and that's why you're
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: having so much fucking fun.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: You know, I enjoy I get the cool anytime I
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: have the guys night where if the guys are going
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: to be involved, they would say, you know, I get
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: to call from Dolores, Brittany will call me it. Do
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: not like Joe, do not like Joe and next thing,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: you know, it's as carrying me out. Here's Joe's the
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: littlest one on the show. And Joe he could just
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: drink and drink and drink.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh my god. I was Joe's lawyer.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I've known Joe probably close to thirty five years.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I used to be his lawyer.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: And you know, now we have a comedy show together
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: the guys, which I never planned on whatsoever?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: You got to tell us about that? Because I know
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you guys did a skid at the Bravo Khan two
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: years ago and you your shirts off.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: And here's how he says, well, let me remember Bravo
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Bravo Khan when it was in New York. All right,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: So Joe is he's a comedian, and I gotta be
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: honest with me. Bro he's kind of funny. He's kind
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: of funny.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: He is funny.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: So anyway, listen, I.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Know the guy choosing me, and I tell him. I
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: tell him all the time. So now he's appearing at Carolines.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: He's got two shows at Carolines, which every comedian wants
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: to get to. I was like, how the hell did
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: he get the Caroline. I wake up and I wake
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: up in the morning and I'm I'm going through Instagram
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: laying in bed, and you know, every day you see
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Joe Gorga's Instagram all right, where normally he's got a
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: shirt off, all right, and he gives you your your
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: life advice.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know the usual.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: You know, do keep you does that too once. I
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: need to learn. I need to take the shirt off
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: more often.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: That's what Joe's always got the shirt off.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm missing. I needed. I need to take
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: off the shirt off all the time.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Bro. Listen, Joe Gorgan takes off the shirt so it
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: takes your attention off of his height, right, So now
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: I see his thing, Joe.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Gorga appearing at Carolines.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: All right, Bravo kan blah blah blah, all right, the
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: guy's true story, all right. Then I see featuring Frank
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Contana that I called you, Joe, Hey man, what's going on?
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: I said, I said you yeah, oh yeah, you're gonna
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: come out. You're gonna introduce me beat You're like five
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: ten minutes introduce me? I said, Bro, you think you
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: should have asked me? Am I getting paid? Am I
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: doing anything, So, guys, I gotta be honest. That's probably
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: about that's probably about thirty shows ago. We've been to
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: three countries. I can't even tell you how many different cities.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: So now my I come out before him and go
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: on from maybe like fifteen to twenty minutes, right, and
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Joe comes out, And I never planned on it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I never planned being a comedian. I was scarce shit
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: of it, all right, but that's how I started. We
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: just had one not too long ago, and they're not big.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Listen. We we had some in Atlantic City where we
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: had like twelve thirteen hundred people. Most of our venues
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: are anywhere from maybe one fifty to two fifty. But
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: it's nice. It's nice, usually sell out and it's a
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: housewife crowd.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Do you think he'll uh, you'll ever he'll ever open
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: for you?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Never bow yeah, Joe listen.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: And I let him do that because obviously, you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: God God shorted him when I came to his height,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: so I feel bad for him.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: All right. So we're saying at and you'll be honest.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I want part of my part of my skin. I
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: come out there, I said, listen, guys, you think you
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: feel bad about your life. I said, let me just
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: tell you something, all right. I'm driving here tonight, all right,
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: And I used to dress up. I used that these
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: tailor made suits and I looked pretty good man. I
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: was jack backdad everything. I'm in front of a judge,
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: I was a pretty damn good attorney, and I was
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Joe Gorga's attorney. All right, I said, since then, I
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: fucking got this bored, and now I'm the opening act
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: for Joe Gorgon.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You think your life is bad?
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I said, mind, I have a question for you, Frank.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: But I wanted before I forget, you mentioned Brittany has
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: access to your phone and access to your DM's access
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: to all that good stuff. Was that your idea or
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: her idea?
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Dude?
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you something?
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: It was my idea because when we go out and
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: I'm always getting you know, the people coming up, And
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: that's the one good thing about the Housewives. My buddy,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: my buddy who moved away, who's still one of my
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: best friends, came to Jersey walking down the boardwalk and
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: he said to me, one day, he goes bro first,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I hate the fact that people recognize you, all right,
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: because he grew up on me, all right, but he
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: goes after you take a picture with him, they walk
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: away and they're smiling.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: It's any unit you guys, deal.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: It's it's like a big thing for them to meet you,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: all right, but it's just as big for me and
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: to see that you make them happy like that, all right.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: So but then you get a little bit beyond where
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: you get women who had something to drink. If you
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: get a group of women, you know, and they get
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: very touchy feely in your name it all right? So
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: what happened is you know at that point, guys, I
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: wanted her to make sure she felt comfortable.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: So be honest.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Britt has access to everything through my phone, all right,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: but she never goes guys, as far as I know,
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: probably when I'm sleeping, she goes through everything, all right.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: But yeah, she just walked in the house. She just
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: walked in from shopping. Was it?
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Would you say? It's a form of uh what was it?
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: A form of accountability for you as well? And then
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: the show help with accountability?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Is well?
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I know, like for me that was a huge like
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: it helped me a ton. When we came out on
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: the show, it was like oh shit, Like, now you
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: the most random person will know who you are and
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: is someone going to try to blackmail you for some stuff?
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Always if in fact I know something, if whoever they're
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: blackmailing you with already knows.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: About it, Yeah, well I got I got my wife
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: got a private DM on social media saying hey, I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: saw Eddie at the beach having lunch with a friend.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: And that's when the light went off. I'm like, oh shit,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: there goes my privacy. I mean you not that I
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: have anything to hide, but I can't do anything now.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: No, It's crazy, isn't it. It's crazy, you know, and listen,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: it's I don't care how cool you got cool partners,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: and you know it's nice and I consider myself to
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: have one as well, you know. But at the same time,
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: when you got people just I don't understand why people
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: do it, all right, I guys, let me ask you
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: guys a question. If you look at an Instagram, remember
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: you look Instagram. If you see a post and you
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: don't like that post, all right, do you even nasty comment?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I just keep scrolling.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: He just sort of on, Yeah, why why do people.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Find it necessary? And then usually it's somebody who's got
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: no pictures has like four followers, okay, exactly, which I can't.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate the keyboard Warriors. I hate the keyboard Warriors.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it also at this stage in this
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: world of social media and reality TV, I think there's
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: a kind of a conspiracy going on out there with
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: certain cast members that are putting stupid shit stories out there.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: And that's what those take accounts are for, right, Combine
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: that with the bots, and then they just hire a
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: bot to keep repeating you know, stupid posts. It's just dumb.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: But I mean I know that that's part of the
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: or maybe the biggest reason Jersey was shut down because
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: of what happened with you know, the bloggers and the
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: stupidity of what happened over there. But on that note,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: let me ask you if if Jersey was to be
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: asked back and Brittany was asked to be a housewife,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: would you sign on for that or what would you do?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Get? Truthfully, guys, I think that is entirely her choice.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: That's a great answer, babe, They ask you, what would
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: you say, She's like, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah,
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Like she just said, she goes I think I'm too nice,
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: all right, which I got to be honest with.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: You, so do I right. And our relationship, guys, our
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: relationship is close to perfect as it comes. It really does.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: We don't ever fight. We have a big age discrepancy,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: which nobody's ever made an issue of.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: I laugh more heart than I've ever laughed with any
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: of the corner ever in my life. They have more
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: in common, all right, and in less drama than anything.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: And worried she's worried morey about it if we go
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: on the show, because there's been great relationships. Was gone
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: to ship when you go in the show, So I
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: don't have to tell you guys that deal.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know my experience has been, you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: putting us in a room with four or five other
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: people that we have never met in our life and
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: say do a show. And that's why I go back
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: to the Jersey thing, Like you guys don't knew each
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: other before, and you have some history, and you guys
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: can actually talk about stuff, and you know, having that
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: mentality of getting over it because it's just the show.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's easier.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: What's the age difference between you and Brittany By the
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: way twenty five years. Twenty five years. Okay, twenty five Bro,
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Turned sixty one, Bro, sixty one.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: There's no way you're seventy one years old.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe you. Fortunately, Yes, for you, Thank you, man.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Wow, I'm blown away. I had no idea you were
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: sixty one, Bro. If you saw me in the morning,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: only fifty is worst case.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you, bro. Honestly, I knew I liked you. Bro.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I believe me.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: If you saw me getting out of bed in the morning,
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: I say, ship that motherfucker's sixty one years vault.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, speaking of that was your How your
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: daughter and son take it that you married someone so young?
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Were they like, dad, what are you doing?
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Let's go to my son. My son is the most
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: non confrontational person. Do whatever me. Okay.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Remember they both knew Brittany beforehand, all right. And my
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: son was fine, all right. My daughter, I got to
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: be honest with my daughter had a little bit of issue.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: They would have had a little bit, because guys, they're
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: basically five years apart.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, and I was gone and my daughter has a.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Very very strong personality. But now, guys, I be honest.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: The two of them are like best friends. They joke around,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: they laugh. You know when I tell you, guys, I
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: knock on wood. Probably have between the X between my
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: beautiful wife, now between my kids, I probably have the
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: closest thing to a perfect life. Well, and it's good,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: you know my daughter. And my daughter is funny and
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: now she busts our chops right like people around. Hey,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: I want to introduce you. Step off right, Brittany.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I love those dynamics, brother, I really do admire that,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: you know, And I can sense and see the beauty
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: of it and and the harmony, and I can tell
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: why you're so happy and just having a great life.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: You have such good people around you. Man.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: That's it makes all the difference, guys, doesn't it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Listen, I think God can call my number tomorrow. You
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: know I'm not. I'm not gonna be one of those
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: people that it could have should have.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Man. I did it.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I did it. I did good, bad, and different, you
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: name it so and I live it.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: I live it, bro, I love it. Frank. Your energy
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: is contagious. Man, You're full of energy, full of enthusiasm. Man,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I can see why you landed such a young girl. Man,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I can see it.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: She keeps me honestly, she keeps me young.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: And the thing is, she places these freaking tiktoks on
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: me all right, like well, I'll be eating and.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: She scares the ship out of me. What don't stuck
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: next to you and her?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: You see her in a TikTok laughing, and then you
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: have comments, Oh my god, he needs anger management.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, he must be her all right, going.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Going down to day. She keeps me up. I gotta
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: be honest, keeps me young. Guys, when I tell you,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: we laugh all the time, all right.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I can't remember the last time either one of us
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: raised our voice of bad or yeah, you know cool
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: it is, man, it.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Is, and they do. I know we didn't touch on this,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: but it just hit me. Does she have kids or
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: do you guys plan on having kids?
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: She doesn't. That's that's that's the one sort of subject
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit there.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: So now we we we talked about that in depth
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: many and many of times, many times. You know, we
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: have we have our two rescue dogs. Basically they can't
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: they can't even sleep in the bed with us anymore
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: because my Moe's snores so.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Loud like man of animals too, but I can't live
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: with them right exactly.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, I saw my bro, you got you got a
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: pity pity rescue.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: He's right here, right here, you know. Yeah, he's just
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the biggest love bug.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I see a Rams fan, bro, all right,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: big time?
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Who's your What happened to Cooper Cup? Come on, man?
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Why did you get the man? I know that that
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: one hurt. He was one of my favorites.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was one of my favorites. So for sure,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: are you a Rams fan? I listen, I'm I'm an
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: everybody fan, honestly.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I like.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I like rooting for teams with some good people on it,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: all right, And.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: If I see something good, you know that that somebody
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: did something nice with a fan or something like that
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: for them that week. You know. I was always a
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady fan and followed him. You know, we watch
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: his games, whether be in New England down to Tampa.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Then when he left, uh Britain Bridge A huge, huge
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: Dallas fan.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: All right, cool? All right, Well, whenever you want to
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: come down to a Rams game, you would love to.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: I have a ton of tickets. We have tickets, Yeah,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: we have nine season tickets.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Here man in the house.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: They're literally the best seats in the now. Yeah, no,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: hit us up, like whenever you want, any game will
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: have fun. I love your energy, man, I would love
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: to hang dude, I do man.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: So last question, you guys go into Brava kan this year.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: I listen, there's only four people from Jersey, all right
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: and their spouses who are going. All right, from what
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: I understand, you know, it's I think it's only Dolores, Melissa,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: Margaret and Teresa. I don't know if that's an insight
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: into the future or not. All right, so they basically,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: you know, I didn't expect it to be invited this year,
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: but guys, I get down.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I love Yeah, it was funny.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I got I know you guys, but I.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Get hollered at all the time my production because when
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: we walk out the building and like all the people
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: are behind the barricades, did you know I got to
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: go and take a picture, and everybody wants They're.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, Frank, Frank, let's go Frank. I was like, no, man,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: these people waiting here for an hour? Yes, you're serious,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Well you guys can wait fifteen twenty minutes. You come on. Well,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I love you know vis Oh my god, she goes
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: yes you you just said, yes, I do, I don't.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: I love it. You know, first of all, this this
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: coul this could all be gone tomorrow.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: You all know that, all right, Yeah, But at the
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: same time, while it's here due it needs so much
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: to these people and say.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: That's exactly why we do it. You know, it's not
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: because it makes us feel it feels our ego or
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: anything like that. It feels our feeling to help other
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: people feel happy. If it makes them feel happy and
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: they just want a simple picture. It's not hard, right,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: It's not that hard.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Not that hard.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: It takes more energy. It takes more energy to be mean, yes, okay, right,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sing. There was a There was a beef between
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Ramona from New York and Dolores. Okay, all right, I
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: get that.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: So to watch what Happens Live, okay, and Ramona they
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: did some kind of dating games. So Ramona didn't know
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: who the three guys were, and I was one of them,
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: all right, so she didn't pick me, thank god. Right,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: But anyway, afterwards, you know, you know, I basically we're
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: all leaving and Ramona is not taking pictures with anybody.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: I told him looking to take a picture, all right.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, she's like hendon hoard all right.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: So after that somebody must have said something to her,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: well that's frank, you know, that's.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Dolorus's ex husband. So then she goes you know, they no,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: come on back, we take a picture, right, So.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Now I'm going back to I'm going back to take
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: a picture. And in the background you hear the loorus.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Get the fuck away from her, don't you dare?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: All right? I was like, oh sorry, but that that's
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: the point I'm being is man, I don't care who
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Guys, I've always been talve. You treat you the same
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: as you treat the janitor. Right then you're going back
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: down that ladder. And I've gone down that ladder man
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: of times seeing people. Are you shore going up?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Hmm, I agree, one hundred percent for sure.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I listen, guys, I do across my back. I got tattooed,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm not even kidding.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: I used to be a big Nickelback fan, all right,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: and that every day, every day is a gift, not
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: a given right.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: And that's not a cliche. I live by that. Wake
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: up in the morning. I said, I'm grumpy.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Man. There sometimes I'm grumpy and Britt just pulls me
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: out of it. And you really, guys, you when you
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: said I enjoyed life.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just glad you didn't see you had a picture
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: of his face tattooed to your back.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Hold out, hold out, bro, there's got to be now
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: that that goes to a story again.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: We're going We're going to the NBC building in the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: New York all right, So we had some kind of event.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: I forgot what it was. In fact, Britt was with me.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: And so now when you go there, you got to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: go to security first and they give you a tag. Right.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: But while I'm standing there, I look next to me,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's Chad all right, the lead singer
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: from the Now I look at him. Everybody coming over
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: by me and taking pictures with me. So I see
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: him looking, say who's this guy right now? I'm seeing him,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: and I'm like starstruck.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Coming yeah, I'm like stuttering. I'm like, hey, hey man,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan. Bro.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: I said, I even got you on my back. I said, no, no, no,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I got one of your verses on my
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: back one of your songs. He's like, okay, thanks, so yeah,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: but I did have a picture of him on my back.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: That's too, buddy, That's very cool. Oh sure.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Anyways, you know, it's been great, Frank. I know we
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: can go on for hours and hours.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: But that was one of my favorite interviews.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love to hear I love you. It's been
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I'm finally connected and hopefully we
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: get to see each other soon.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Guys, I would love to. I would love to. You know,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: for sure, any you're still doing that would say you're
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: still doing your motocross.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I am, I am. You know I'm still doing the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Harley thing too. I I gotta I had an idea
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to pass by you, because that's why
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I asked you about Bravo Con. But we'll talk offline.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: It's a Harley Davidson deal that I really I got
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: to put together if you guys are interested in doing it.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: But absolutely, And I can tell you something. Some of
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: the best time Brittany and I spend. You know, I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: have a full dresser now and she loves just sitting
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: on a back and relaxing. I'le go out for a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: ride some of the best quality time that we spend.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Do you have a ride with Joe uh with Joe Banango?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, In fact, Brittany and I went with Margaret and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Joe and it was a beautiful sunday here. We went
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: up into upstate New York, stopped for a bite, t
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: eat and everything else there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, non living.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm close with pretty much everybody on the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: show except for maybe one person, all right. But other
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: than that, you know, Joe and Joe, Joe Gorga, I'm
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: very good friends with. He lives right down the block
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: for me up north. He lives right right down the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: block for me down at the Jersey Shore. And but
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Joe Banango were close, honestly, and me and Joe were
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: also very close.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: And he loves the Yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: No, I I love Joe Binninga and they're great people.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Is anybody else fried over there? Do you know on
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: the show?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: I know, listen, I know, I know the doc doesn't
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: all right, I know Doctor Aiden, all right, Jennifer's husband
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: doesn't all right.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think you know, Nate Daniel's husband, I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: know he doesn't either.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: And Joe, Joe Gorga doesn't either, right, stop broke.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: He can't reach the ground. He can't reach the ground.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Get him a little bike.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get it. I got him like one
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: of those eighty eighty c C.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Hondas well, right, they got They have strikes too. You know,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: you don't have to put your feet down on listen.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: The thing with Joe Gorga, is this all right? If
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: you want Joe Gorgan to do anything a right, you
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: don't call Joe. You might as well just call Melissa directly.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's not allowed to do anything unless he stays.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, And we all know that, we all
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: know that's right.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: But the best is there because because Joe, Joe always
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: thinks he's like, yeah, he's the man, he's Tarzan.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, towards any aloud out of the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: house without saying.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, let him think he does you know, you know
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: it for sure.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: I love Hey guys. I had a great time, man,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I had a great time.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Frank, and uh definitely hopeful to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: see you soon.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's been a pleasure.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Manwise, likewise, brother, you can't care yourself, Frank. That was fun.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun. Oh man, great interview.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: He is so much fun.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, he was great. I think he might
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: be my favorite interview of all time.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has so much energy. And that's
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: part think part of the reason why I don't think
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: he's sixty or sixty one however old. He can't be
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: in his sixties. He's awesome. But you know, he does
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: work out, so that has a lot.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Of help with so put you in a good mood. Man. Yeah.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So let me ask you this, you know, because
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: while we're having this conversation, I can't I couldn't help
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: but think about what you're going through obviously in your divorce,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: and how what you can take away, if anything, from
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the the dynamics and you know, of what we just
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: learned about him. Do you think you can do like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: things like they did.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Well, it's very interesting because as he was saying it,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this is a lot like Teddy and I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: right now, we're just you know, we're great friends, and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: you know, I want to make sure she's she's taken
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: care of, and you know, but it's we we've maintained
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: that great relationship. So even though we're separated and we're
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: strange and you know, we're you know, still planning on divorcing,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: like we're still like friends, yeah, you know, and I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: still see her as a friend, Like this is probably
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: the best we got along that we've gone along in
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: a while. We always got along, but we're like really
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: getting along really well.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm really hoping that that is true for
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: you guys, that you guys can just maintain that friendship
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: and able to amicallee you know, go your separate ways,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: but still maintain that relationship for the sake of the kids.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: And well, it's interesting. I think he mentioned something about
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: like the kids not even knowing when they were separated,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: and I kind of feel like, you know that we're
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: you know, we we when when we stay at the house,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: even before she got sick, it was just like the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: kids never left and they're not really seeing anything different,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Like we're not fighting. It's great energy in the house.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: So you know, it's very it's it's it's interesting you
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: asked that question because as he was talking, I'm like, Wow,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: this is a lot like what I'm going through.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: So can you see yourself ever having like Christmas dinner
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: with your girlfriend or wife and then her.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Yeaheah. I mean we've so you know, I have a daughter,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: my oldest daughter, right, yeah, and we've hung out with
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: her mom, her step who's a great, great man. I mean,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: I couldn't have picked a better step dad. And yeah,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: I mean we've we've hung out for Mother's Day. So
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I'm all about that. Yeah, you know, it's all about Yeah,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: I'm all about leading with love and all that. So yeah,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: to totally see that vacations together.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: They can't wrap my head around it, but it sounds
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: so ideal, like I could.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Totally do that right now, you know if obviously you
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: have to respect your significant other, right and sometimes you
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: know that's not something that you do right away, you know.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: With with Bella's mom, I mean I think that took
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: thirteen years to happen. Yeah, that took a while. That
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: wasn't just like you know, but that took thirteen years.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: But then it happened. But you were younger too, lot, Yeah,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: we were younger. Yeah, I was younger and all that,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: But I mean I could have done it at you know,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: you're two. You know, like I've just always been very
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: cool that way. But again, you have to you have
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: to respect your significant other and just you can't push it.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: It's just got to be when the time is right,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: it's right. And but yeah, I mean ideally it's great
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: for the children and if you know, and I think
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: when you really that's why I ask that question about
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: when did you really become friends? Right, because I think
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: that's when you can do it makes I think when
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: one person still has feelings for the other, you can't
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: do or resentment exactly. It's you got to get over
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: the resentment and you got to get over the like
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: you have to really now be on the friend zone,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: and then you could easily do it because you just
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: don't look at each other that way anymore. You literally
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: look at each other like friends.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: You know how long that's going to take, you know?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it depends right that that you know,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: it can be pretty short, you know.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I mean you've heard of relationships where they they break up,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: they get divorced, and they have sex, they get remarried,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: and then they break up again and they get divorced,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: they have sex, and they get married again. It's crazy, crazy.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: But my point is is that for me, when I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: have those you know, passionate feelings with the woman, I
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: don't know if I could turn them off.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: You know, ever.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Me like, well, if you break up like for me,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: my motto has always been, you know, once we're broken up,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: we're broken up, because obviously there were.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: Some attraction and you don't see each other anymore.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: God, and you don't see each other anymore. Even with
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: one of my relationships when I was younger, it was
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I was very much in love and it broke my
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: heart and everything. And it was a very mature conversation
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: that I had with her, and it was you know,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I love you, and I know that you know this
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: is not going to be a forever relationship, and I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: have the respect that we're going our separate ways. And
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: it was one of the hardest things I've ever done,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: but it taught me like, yeah, I can't have just
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: a friendly relationship with a woman I love this much. Right.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that could happen with camera, although
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I guess when you when you've been with somebody.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: This is my experience so far. It's not that the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: passion is not there or the desire is not there.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: But we've been together, gosh, fifteen years now, and it's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: it's more of a I can see myself with this
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: woman for the rest of my life. I can do
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: anything with her, and we're friends, we're like partners, were
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: everything together. So if maybe twenty years from now that
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: was to change, maybe that would be a different perspective,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: you know, because I have that friendship, I have that connection,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, I could probably see it happening. But
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: young when I was younger, like done, I don't want
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: to see you again.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I think the key point is when that if one
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: person still loves the other, it's really hard. But I
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: think when the love is over that you know, the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: passion and all that stuff. I think that is when
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: you can probably do it, and especially if you have
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: a like I've always had a very short memory, Like no,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: I've never held remorse, Like there's not one person right
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: now that I could say I'm pissed off at right
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: I think that's been a little bit of a gift
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: of mine, because that's not easy for me. It's always
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: been I'm not saying I never get mad, like I've
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: been mad for two three months. Then once once I'm
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: over it, I'm over it, and I don't I don't
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: hold any grudges, and it's just easy for me to
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: just forget and then move forward. And I think that's
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm still friends with girls I.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Used to date. Oh you are okay? Yeah?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like I'm friends. I'm still friends. In fact,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: you know when I when all that stuff happened, I
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: you know, some of them started texting me back just
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: just to check up on me, not trying to connect
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: in a let's get back together, but just you know, hey,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: how you doing. Hope you're doing well. And it's funny.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: I was having a conversation with with a good friend
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: of mine actually today and he was just saying, how,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: you know I've always had good relationships. I've always ended
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: things well, you know, and how he never ended things well.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: So he was like, man, people always reach out to
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: you because you've always ended things well, whereas I always
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: ended badly. And you know, I have no friends that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: I used to date, you know.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's sort of me. I don't.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not friends with anybody any of my day, any
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: of my exes.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Two reasons, you know. First is the reason I just explained,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: like when you've had sexual relationships or attractions to that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: other person, it's hard to turn those off unless you
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: know there's something, you know, major that caused to break up,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: like infidelity or something. But there's there's always going to
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: be that attraction. I think the other is out of
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: respect for my current relationship, so that she doesn't feel
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: like there's something there right. And that's why I couldn't
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: understand the dynamics with Paulie and Frank and the whole
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: relationship with the families and how they don't have those insecurities.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: If he will, but after he explained it to us
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: the way he explained it to us, you know, he
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: respects her so much that even though she said I'm sorry,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I forgive you and I'm willing to go
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: past this. He had so much respect for her that
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: he elevated her to a point where it's more than
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: just a sexual attraction with this person. It's a respect,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: it's an admiration. It's like, I don't want to hurt
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: this person. And I could see that. I could totally
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: see having a relationship with a woman like that, like,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: you know what, it's not you, it's me, and I
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I respect you so much I don't want to put
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: you through this ever again. So it made sense.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: But I think that the key thing that he said
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: as well is that he brought Dolores's husband around when
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: they were around, and then that made everything, you know,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: work because then he got to see it for himself
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: that there wasn't any you know, things going on behind
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: the scenes, because you know, you could very easily think
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: differently if you're not really there, But once you bring
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: them on and they get to see each other, you're like, okay,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: there's there's definitely nothing happening. This is a legitimate just
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: friendship because it can very easily be interpreted. The interpretation
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: of that could be easily different. Yeah. So but again
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: I think it takes to you, you know, and and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: that's why it's so hard to do. That's why you
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: don't have too many people. That's why you don't have
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: too many.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: People pull that off, right, because both people.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Have to feel the same way, andally that's not the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: case because one typically has a grudge.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also think it's a maturity thing. I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: think the older you get, the more you realize that that's.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I followed this account on Instagram that does all these
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: funny videos, and they did one recently where the guy
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: and the girl are just walking down the street holding hands,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: and they run into the girl's ex boyfriend and she
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: totally gets excited, jumps on his lap, and the guy
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: that's holding her hand, that current boyfriend's looking over. They're
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: imagining all these things, and the ex picks her up,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: you know, kisses her and makes her you know, this princess.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: He's just looking at her, starts crying, and the next
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: scene is, oh, let me introduce you to my ex boyfriend.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious, but that's you know, how young men's minds work,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Like what the fuck? Yeah, anyways, it was great catching
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: up brother. Likewise, I'm so happy it's you and hear
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: from you. How are things good going with you?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: Going well? I mean, yeah, Teddy's obviously doing better, so
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: she's improving, so that's good news there. The kids are great.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: You know. I'm working a ton and I just came
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: back from Europe. That was a great trip. Now he
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: took a break. Yeah, I went to Central pay for
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: unfortunately only for a day. But then I went to
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Capri for about six days and it was sort of
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: a last minute trip that I went on. And it
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: was the first time in sixteen years being by myself. Yeah,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: so I found myself fourth of July just doing nothing
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: and my kids were out of town, a lot of
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: my friends were out of town. And it was the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: first time on a fourth of July I did not
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: have plans, like you know, normally there's someone having a
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: cool party whatever, or I was always with the kids
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: for a lot of for a lot of years. And
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: a buddy of mine who was in Central Page just
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: called me and said, hey, I got this yacht. It
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: was a three hundred foot yacht, fifty million dollar yacht,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: which I've never been on, and it's just like, hey,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: grab a flight. I got everything covered and uh, you know,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: we're only going to be here for one more day
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: in santro Pe, but come down and then we'll go
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: to Capri. And it was so spontaneous. I'd never done
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: something like that in a long long time, where I
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: literally literally bought the trip on fourth of July, I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: mean the ticket to go to Central Pe, got there
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: on the fifth, and and then I was there for
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: for a week. Fun, fun time. Yeah, it was a
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: good time.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Those are the best, the spontaneous ones. You just let's go.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: So I'll good there good for you brother, Yeah for
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: you man. That's all yeah, all right, all right, my
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: man was our show. Looking forward to our next one,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: and uh we'll see you soon.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see you soon.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Ed