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Holt On Martell: LAMH Premiere Recap with Dustin Ross & Mandii B · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. We are exclusively talking about the premiere
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  Speaker 1: of Love and Marriage Huntsville and it being the talk
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  Speaker 1: of the weekend, even today. And after today, you all
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  Speaker 1: will be making clips, I'm sure, that will live on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok threads, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Instagram, your grandma's.
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  Speaker 2: Tablet, all of the things.
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  Speaker 1: And this will be a topic that you all will
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  Speaker 1: discuss at the workplace near the water cooler tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: We are celebrating season 12 of the show. Mandy, are
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  Speaker 2: you a husband watcher?
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  Speaker 3: I told you, you ended up in the group chat.
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  Speaker 3: I watched this with my best friend and her husband. Dustin,
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  Speaker 3: I watched this with Lena and Dwayne.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay, okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When I say they love... Oh my God. And then
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  Speaker 3: when it went to DC for a couple seasons, when
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  Speaker 3: I say they love it. And this is my homegirl
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  Speaker 3: from Detroit. So when I say her and her husband
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  Speaker 3: be at that TV. So I love this. I love this.
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  Speaker 2: Good, good, good, good, good.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to get into the premiere episode of
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  Speaker 1: Love and Marriage. Huntsville Dustin has been a favorite viewer
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  Speaker 1: since day one, episode one as well.
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  Speaker 2: And Mandy, get ready because this motherfucker.
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  Speaker 1: Is a historian when it comes to the show and
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  Speaker 1: know where all the bodies are buried.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: He remembers the case numbers. He remembers the ABA numbers,
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  Speaker 1: the NDAs, and everything else, baby. Okay, so the time
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  Speaker 1: has come for us to get into Love and Marriage
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  Speaker 1: Huntsville premiere.
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  Speaker 2: The first scene that started off, I'm going to start
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  Speaker 2: with you, Dustin.
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  Speaker 1: Because, you know, you are the staple, all right, when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to this show. So the show opens up
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  Speaker 1: with shocking news that Marcel lost Whitehall. OK, so the
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  Speaker 1: audience asked me this and I do want to explain.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, graphic. This show is everything.
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  Speaker 4: OK. OK.
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  Speaker 1: Whitehall is an investment property. Raindrops is not the is
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  Speaker 1: not Scott Manor. It's not their dream home. OK, that's
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  Speaker 1: two different that's two different homes. And guess what? When
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  Speaker 1: the producers told me about this story, I had the
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  Speaker 1: same thought, like they lost.
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  Speaker 2: Their dream home. So no, it's not their dream home.
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  Speaker 1: This is an investment property that they had for a
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  Speaker 1: while that they lost. And one of the reasons why
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  Speaker 1: it was lost, according to Marceau, is because of a
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  Speaker 1: zoning issue.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean? Well, let me explain it to you.
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  Speaker 2: When you purchase a lot... Lots are separated by zones
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  Speaker 2: because you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Be a real estate investor and want the whole lot
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  Speaker 1: for X amount of dollars. They're going to give you
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  Speaker 1: a certain amount of square footage or acres of land,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. Marceau bought square footage. He
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  Speaker 1: is alleging that he wasn't aware that he couldn't build
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  Speaker 1: that particular house in this zone area and pretty much
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  Speaker 1: was telling Tisha, like, you didn't tell me. Tisha's like,
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  Speaker 1: You're the builder. You got your real estate license and
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  Speaker 1: your builder's license. You should have known this. You don't
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  Speaker 1: include me in any of these conversations. That was the case.
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  Speaker 1: Before I let you cook, Dustin, Martel Holt did leave
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  Speaker 1: a comment underneath the sneak peek of this clip. And
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  Speaker 1: Martel said, and I quote, don't believe the zoning narrative.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't pay their mortgage. That's why they lost their home. Simple.
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  Speaker 1: You can't start a project until zoning approves your architectural
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  Speaker 1: drawings and then a permit.
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  Speaker 2: To build is issued.
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  Speaker 1: Dustin, did you call cap on this or did Marcel
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  Speaker 1: really not understand the law?
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  Speaker 4: He didn't understand something because they lost the damn house.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? So there was something that
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  Speaker 4: was unclear to them. But I don't really care. about
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  Speaker 4: any of that, to be honest with you. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? It doesn't make me look at Marceau
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  Speaker 4: and Letitia as if they're failures in business. It just
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  Speaker 4: is what happened with that investment property that I don't
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  Speaker 4: really think they were too sure of what to do
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  Speaker 4: with anyway. I just think it just wasn't a project
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  Speaker 4: that they saw through, you know what I'm saying, or
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  Speaker 4: even thought out the right way. I think it's rich
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  Speaker 4: that Martel, of all people, is suddenly the expert on
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  Speaker 4: all business matters connected to building homes and selling homes
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  Speaker 4: and stuff when he's had a couple of false starts
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  Speaker 4: along the way. I think he just got back in
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  Speaker 4: good standing according to what we see on the show
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  Speaker 4: with his ability to even work or function as a
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  Speaker 4: builder or whatever his actual role is. So when people
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  Speaker 4: don't like each other, man, they take advantage of any
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  Speaker 4: opportunity they can to make each other look bad. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that because Martell has been looking bad for
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  Speaker 4: so long on this show based on some of his
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  Speaker 4: choices and decisions. I think that he is chomping at
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  Speaker 4: the bit, so to speak, to highlight someone else's failures,
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  Speaker 4: especially in business. And I just think that that's what
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  Speaker 4: that was that we saw. Marcel and Latisha Scott, they're
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  Speaker 4: going to be just fine. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: And we don't give a damn about Whitehall anyway. We
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  Speaker 4: want to see Scott Manor. That's what we've been waiting on.
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  Speaker 4: They said it's on the side of the mountain. We're
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  Speaker 4: going to go up the rough side. OK, of the
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  Speaker 4: mountain and we're going to see it. I want to
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  Speaker 4: see Scott Manor. I don't give a damn about Whitehall.
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  Speaker 4: Fuck Whitehall. I guess that's what my son Leticia said.
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  Speaker 4: Fuck Whitehall. You know what I'm saying? We're going to
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  Speaker 4: focus on something else. So that's how I feel about it.
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  Speaker 2: Mandy, what are your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he was on his mistake or do
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  Speaker 1: you agree with Martel that they just didn't pay their mortgage?
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  Speaker 3: Honest mistake, no. Again, when you're in real estate, you
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  Speaker 3: know that there's airspace. If you want stairs, if you
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  Speaker 3: want a pool, all of these things have to be
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  Speaker 3: approved by zoning. I think my biggest problem with this
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  Speaker 3: is them sitting in that confessional and him trying to
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  Speaker 3: make it seem like, Tisha had any part of making
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  Speaker 3: this go wrong. I think it's interesting when you decide
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  Speaker 3: to go into business with your partner. And I think
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  Speaker 3: the way that he just tried to literally completely like
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  Speaker 3: any accountability and where he went wrong with this is
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  Speaker 3: my issue. I think it's, I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to just throw out gaslighting narcissists and all these things,
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  Speaker 3: but in the explanation of it all, It was giving ghetto.
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  Speaker 3: It was giving lack of accountability. It was giving, let
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  Speaker 3: me point the fingers to this woman who clearly is
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  Speaker 3: doing it a little bit right, or maybe running her
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  Speaker 3: business a little bit right. And he, as a man,
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to sit there and admit to being the
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  Speaker 3: reason for them not getting this project done. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I just think I didn't like how he
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  Speaker 3: went to kind of blaming his partner for that. And
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  Speaker 3: then literally his explanation on partnership too.
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  Speaker 2: Ew. Gross.
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  Speaker 3: Gross. I don't know how these women be partners with
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  Speaker 3: these men. I ain't even going to hold you.
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  Speaker 2: They some of the worst men I've ever seen on TV.
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  Speaker 2: What did you find gross about it?
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like in partnership, like knowing both people's
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  Speaker 3: money and time was invested to sit there and kind
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  Speaker 3: of just be like, no, Tisha, but you didn't. Or
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  Speaker 3: like Colleen, she's like, I was supposed to, I'm the broker.
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  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to just get it on the market and
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  Speaker 3: sell it. I believed and trusted in your ability to
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  Speaker 3: do everything that you need to do as the developer
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  Speaker 3: and you faulted. And I just hated that he sat
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  Speaker 3: there and did not say at all that he was
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  Speaker 3: wrong or did anything wrong. So I'm glad Martel came
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  Speaker 3: out and was like, mm-mm, something else fishy here. But also,
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  Speaker 3: Martel needs to take a school of accountability lessons.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that we also saw, speaking of Martel, is
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  Speaker 1: Martel's working with Destiny. Destiny is a real estate agent,
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  Speaker 1: and she did sell one of the homes that.
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  Speaker 2: Martel did develop. under his coat. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: he changed it. It was called Holt and Holt.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he changed it, but he did
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  Speaker 1: get his builder's license.
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  Speaker 2: So round of applause for that. Mandy, when you applause,
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  Speaker 2: two hands join together in unison.
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  Speaker 4: Make it clap, Mandy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, That's on reality of the dark. Make the other
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  Speaker 2: people clap.
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  Speaker 1: Mandy, clap your hands.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Mandy, we'll get to Mandy next as to why she
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  Speaker 1: don't want to clap. So Martel finally passed the test.
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  Speaker 2: And he has his builder's license.
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  Speaker 1: So him and Destiny are celebrating the fact that she
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  Speaker 1: did sell the home that he developed. They're very happy
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  Speaker 1: about that. in addition to the fact that Destiny.
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  Speaker 2: Is really doing her thing.
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  Speaker 1: She is happy that she was able to help out
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  Speaker 1: her guy. Mandy, when it comes to Destiny and Martell,
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  Speaker 1: you may have seen in the trailer that there is
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  Speaker 1: speculation on the nature of their friendship. But based on
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  Speaker 1: this scene in and you seeing them, what did you
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  Speaker 1: think about their dynamic?
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe that this friendship could be closer than
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  Speaker 2: business just based on what you saw in the particular scene?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going based off of who Martel has shown his
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  Speaker 3: ass to be. If we're really talking about it, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that Martel is a man that has female
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  Speaker 3: friendships that don't go beyond platonic. I don't think he's
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  Speaker 3: one of those guys that do. I don't think he
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  Speaker 3: respects women. I don't think he... I'm sure he likes them, sure.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't believe that he's a man that genuinely
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  Speaker 3: has female friendships that have not crossed the line. So
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  Speaker 3: do I think that they can do good business together?
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Do I think that women have friends that maybe they've
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  Speaker 3: had a one or two or three night stand with before?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Will I put that on Destiny?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: But I side-eye any woman who is friends with a
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  Speaker 3: man like Martel and you not telling me he ain't
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  Speaker 3: get along. One night, y'all had too much to drink.
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  Speaker 3: So I love that they can still do business together. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I know we're going to get to Martel
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  Speaker 3: also a little bit later. But to me, I don't
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  Speaker 3: trust a man like that. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 3: men who genuinely do not see women as nothing but
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  Speaker 3: holes or things to conquer or things to enjoy for
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  Speaker 3: a nighttime cap. And that's the type of man I
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  Speaker 3: think Martel is. So no, I don't think that it
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  Speaker 3: is all platonic. Do I think they may have had
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  Speaker 3: a little uh, uh, uh in the rump pump? Uh, uh, yes.
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  Speaker 3: But that's just because of who I think Martel is.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know that man, but that's what I.
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  Speaker 2: Believe him to be.
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  Speaker 1: Are you happy that he passed his builder's license test?
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  Speaker 3: Am I happy he read a book and took a test?
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, yay.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why we, listen, uh, Sure. Congrats, Martel.
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  Speaker 3: I'm one of those that once I feel like I
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  Speaker 3: don't really like somebody, it's just like we're not going
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  Speaker 3: to celebrate him for doing what?
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  Speaker 4: Reading?
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  Speaker 3: Doing a couple multiple choice questions? Congrats, Martel.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead. Don't get me started on this man.
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  Speaker 4: What's the question, Carlos?
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  Speaker 1: What did you think about the scene between Destiny and Martel?
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  Speaker 2: Are you happy he passed his builder's license?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think there is more than meets the eye
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to their platonic friendship?
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  Speaker 4: I really don't know. I sure as hell hope not.
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  Speaker 4: I would hope that there's not a history that goes
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  Speaker 4: beyond the boundaries of a platonic relationship between Martel and Destiny.
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  Speaker 4: But his mom in the trailer, I think she said
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  Speaker 4: something about Destiny and Martel liking each other back in
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  Speaker 4: the day.
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  Speaker 2: They said Destiny liked you back in the day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So maybe it was some shit when they was
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  Speaker 4: in middle school or high school or something, like a
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  Speaker 4: crush or whatever. But I really hope they're not fucking, man,
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  Speaker 4: or fucked around or whatever. I really hope not because
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  Speaker 4: I'm really enjoying Destiny. um, last season. And I'm really,
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm going to enjoy her this season again,
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  Speaker 4: based on what I saw in the trailer and finding
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  Speaker 4: out that her and Martel had a relationship that went beyond,
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  Speaker 4: you know, what's platonic. That's going to be really disappointing
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  Speaker 4: for me. So I hope, and I don't believe that
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  Speaker 4: they did. Um, so I think that that's just a rumor.
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  Speaker 4: Martel seemed to be smiling and giddy about it when
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  Speaker 4: it was built, you know, brought up, um, because he
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  Speaker 4: likes mess and scandal and, and he, and he, That's
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  Speaker 4: just how he's been on this show. So I hope
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  Speaker 4: they didn't mess around. I don't think they messed around.
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  Speaker 4: But if they did, we're going to fucking talk about
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  Speaker 4: it when we find out on this show. And Carlos,
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  Speaker 4: you know, because it's your show and you've seen all
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  Speaker 4: the episodes and edits and shit. So if we find
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  Speaker 4: out that they've been fucking around, Carlos, we need to
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  Speaker 4: just do a whole special episode just to focus on
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  Speaker 4: that topic of discussion. Okay? Who said that? Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Love and Marriage Huntsville every Saturday, 8 o'clock Central on OWN.
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  Speaker 1: But Dustin, you've been around since day one, and you
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  Speaker 1: know that Martel unfortunately failed his builder's license test a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times. Are you happy that he finally passed,
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  Speaker 1: and do you think it's a step in the right
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  Speaker 1: direction of him getting his life back together?
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  Speaker 4: Well, Martel has five children that we know of, right?
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  Speaker 4: Not that we know of. Yeah, that we know of.
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  Speaker 3: That we know of.
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  Speaker 4: I heard that was real loud. I'm just saying, he
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  Speaker 4: has five children that we're aware of. And so he
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  Speaker 4: better be doing something. He ain't being over there being
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  Speaker 4: a shiftless Negro, just sitting around. He needs to get up,
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  Speaker 4: get out and do something, like the song said. So yes,
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  Speaker 4: that's the least of things that he should do, is
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  Speaker 4: get himself in a position where he can earn income
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  Speaker 4: and and have some stability, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: to support all those children. Him and Melody have four
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  Speaker 4: children together, and then he has a son with his girlfriend, Arianne,
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  Speaker 4: that we saw on the show tonight, so this episode.
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  Speaker 4: So Martel, he got to make the donuts, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? So getting that license in order, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like the Bible says, good for nothing slave. What you
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  Speaker 4: do is what you ought to do, okay? So yes,
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  Speaker 4: he should be doing that, working and being gainfully employed,
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  Speaker 4: and if getting that, or getting that access to be
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  Speaker 4: able to function that way, if that helps him do that,
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  Speaker 4: then good. You know what I'm saying? Get off your
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  Speaker 4: ass and go to, what did Kim Kardashian say? Get
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  Speaker 4: off your ass and go to fucking work. That's what
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  Speaker 4: you need to do. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Up next, we have the scene between Kimmy and Maurice.
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  Speaker 1: What we're learning when it comes to Kimmy and Maurice
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  Speaker 1: in this episode is that, listen, you've been following Love &
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  Speaker 1: Marriage Huntsville since episode one, season one. You know that
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  Speaker 1: Maurice is an active dad who has a son named.
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  Speaker 2: This is his nickname.
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  Speaker 1: His... His biological name is Maurice Jr., but his nickname
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  Speaker 1: is Monster.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So Monster went off to college.
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  Speaker 1: And what we learned in this scene, Dustin and Mandy,
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  Speaker 1: is that unfortunately, according to Maurice, Monster was having a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun in college, but was not focused on
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  Speaker 1: his education. And that because of that, the university allegedly
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  Speaker 1: kicked him out.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Maurice is saying.
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  Speaker 1: Kimmy had a very stern statement to Maurice and she
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  Speaker 1: felt like, and I want to make sure I get
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  Speaker 1: this right because I don't like misquoting people.
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  Speaker 2: I'll see you guys at the reunion.
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't want no problems with Kimberly Grant Scotch. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so Kimmy tells Maurice that he is not the best
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  Speaker 1: guy to teach him the right nuggets. She just feels
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  Speaker 1: like History has shown that Maurice is just not the
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  Speaker 1: right figure for Monster to get his act together, which,
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  Speaker 1: of course, Maurice took offense to because we all know
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  Speaker 1: him fighting for custody of living, not full-time because he
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  Speaker 1: shares it with his ex-wife, but having Monster live with him. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so for Kimmy to make that statement, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: felt like a blow to Maurice. Dustin, did you feel
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  Speaker 1: that way too, in terms of how Kimmy feels like
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  Speaker 1: Maurice just isn't the right one? And does she have
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  Speaker 1: a point considering that unfortunately monster is.
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  Speaker 2: Not in school anymore?
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  Speaker 4: Well, she does have a point, um, based on the
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  Speaker 4: outcome of, of Maurice being at the helm of the decision-making, um,
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  Speaker 4: for his son monster. Now, Shout out to Maurice. He
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  Speaker 4: loves the fuck out of his son. He loves his
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  Speaker 4: son and that we know for sure. We've watched over
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: the seasons him wanting to be and being actively present
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: in his son's life. But everybody's not good at every job, right?
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: So maybe when it comes to advising, Maurice don't even
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: be making sense when he talks about the things that
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: he's going through. So when it comes to offering advice
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: and guiding someone on a course, Uh, it, that might
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: not be his strong suit. Right. Um, thank God monster
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: has a village, right? Cause he has his mom, um, Kiowa.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: He has his dad. He has Kimmy. He even has
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: his brother Jalen who finished college and has gone on
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: to like be thriving as a young adult. And Kimmy
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: was at the helm of that. You know what I'm saying?
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Leading and guiding her son, Jalen towards success. So maybe
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: with all of those people around monster. He can get
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: back on track to doing some of the things that
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I know his parents want for him to do and accomplish.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And lots of kids fuck up their freshman year in college.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: That's not something that is unique to Monster. Of course,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I'm sure his parents have paid for that education and
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: want to see a return on that investment. And nobody
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: wants their kid out here wiling. But I don't think
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: that he's a, you know, like I said, a unique
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: case for partying too much in his freshman year of
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: high school. He just needs to get back on track.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: And I think it's going to take everybody around him
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: for him to do so. But Maurice has got to
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: let the ego quotient go. Right. I think his ego
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: has always been omnipresent in what we've seen matters that
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: we've seen related to his parenting. You know, I'm his father.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I should be able to do this. I should be
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: able to do that. But what is effective? I think
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: that becomes the question. And if it is beyond Maurice's abilities,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: bring in the village. And that kind of tough, direct
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: talk should come from his wife. Those are the kind
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: of conversations that husbands and wives should have with each other,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: tough ones, where you are facing realities, and the reality
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: in this case is that Maurice was not the best
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: for the job, because look at the proof.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Mandy?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: This is sticky, because you have always two parents, right?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if I liked Kimmy... addressing his
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: parenting also without the other parent being there. I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: both parents are always responsible for what happens to how
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: their children are acting outside of the household. Like Dustin said,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: freshman year, you're going to have a blast. And I
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: ain't going to hold you when you get too disciplined.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: When you're too sheltered, when you're not allowed to do
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: a lot, college is the place where you wall the
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: fuck out, right? I'm also a big advocate in maybe
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: taking two years out of high school, figuring out what
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: you want, also before just going there, showing your ass.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: To me, I get what she meant when she was
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: talking about maybe there's other men that he'll listen to.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I just don't know if she wasn't extremely involved with
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: also the upbringing that she needed to put all of
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: that onto Maurice. Like, the thing is, right, when you're
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: dating somebody, you're showing up as a partner. But to
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: be fair and honest, do I love my parents both
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: of them down maybe not but they did the best
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: they could with what they got and so to me
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: to just be badgered on maybe your lack of showing
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: up as a parent because of how your children ended
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: up while they're navigating adulthood I just don't think that
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: that's something that anyone else needs to speak on if
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: their children aren't perfect and so I don't know I
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I was really out of the scope of Kimmy mentioning
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: it just without also the mother being there of Monster.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: That should have been maybe a conversation they both had.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I think she just went a little hard on Maurice.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't at all. I think that she
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: didn't have to soften, you know what I'm saying, the delivery.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Kimmy is his wife. That's her stepson. She has a
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: connection to Monster, too. She wants a good result in
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: his rearing as well. If a husband and a wife,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: we can't coddle feelings all the fucking time, right? There's
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: a way to make your dialogue palatable. But if we're
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: fucking married and we're talking about one of the children
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: that we're responsible for, that's when you should have direct,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: blatant talk like that. I don't think she went.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Hard at all.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: How long was Kimmy raising Monster?
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: How long?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I'm curious. I don't know.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Has she what?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: How long was Kimmy around in terms of parenting Monster
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: as well?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Since they've been married. Yeah, they've been married.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: They just celebrated their, I believe their eight years, seven
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: or eight years being married.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: They were together for five years before she got engaged.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: So let's say a little over 10 years.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: There you go. That means he was a little boy.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: She's been around him since then. But back to the
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: conversation between Kimmy and Maurice, that's okay. It's okay for
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: your partner, your wife, your husband, whoever to tell you, hey,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: this is what's going on. This is how you look
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and this is how you're showing up. They don't always
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: have to be told in a way that, won't hurt
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: your feelings. You know what I'm saying? I don't think
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: that she went hard on him. I think they were
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: having necessary conversation. Y'all always saying how Marie's got soft
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: hands anyway and he don't want to do nothing. Damn,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: we can't even talk to the nigga now? We can't
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: even tell him, yo, you might want to show up
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: a little differently from your son because I'm your wife
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: and I'm in the house with you and I see
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: it and I care about the motherfucker too. So I
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: have just as much interest and just as much a
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: reason to be passionate. And another thing, I don't think
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: that that conversation needed to involve his... Monsters mama unless
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: it involved monsters mama monsters Maurice's son and that's Kimmy
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: stepson and it's okay for them to discuss His life
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: and his roadway to success without her. It's okay. They
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: have a vested interest in that young man So I
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: don't think they were out of bounds at all I
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: don't think they were out of bounds for talking about
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: it and I don't think Kimmy was out of bounds
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: for for keeping it real with Maurice.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I do just think that there could have been more
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: of a we in the conversation. We failed him. If
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: she's been around for that long as well, him getting
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: into all that isn't just Maurice's fault. We failed as
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: parents and as a married couple in this scenario with
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: our son.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: But see, this is where watching a show comes into play, right?
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Because if you watch the show from day one, then
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you understand the rhythm of Kimmy and Maurice as a
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: couple and the way that they roll when it came
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: to each other's children. They both have a vested interest
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: and both are heavily involved. But Kimmy played her position
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: as the stepmother and as Maurice's wife. She always allowed
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: space for Maurice and Kiowa to figure that shit out.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: And even when shit got tricky between Kimmy and Kiowa
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: in conversations and stuff, she still stepped out the way
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: when the conversation went to parenting Munster and his needs.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: So you got to know all that. You know what
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I'm saying? To understand why the conversation looked like that
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: between the two of them. So I don't know. I
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: just feel like people are trying to, well, Kimmy was
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: wrong for good. No, she was not. That's the person
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: who should deliver that information to him.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I also think, yeah, so the way the dynamic work is,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Kimmy has a son from a previous relationship. Marie's son, Monster,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is from his previous marriage. Based on, again, this is
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: what we talked about earlier. Every marriage works differently.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: By design, right? they both kind of have hands-off approach
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to each other's children.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: In this case, because they have one each.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: They both, like, Maurice wasn't heavily involved in Jalen. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Kimmy wasn't heavily involved in Monster by design from the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: both of them. Because I do think when it comes
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to blended families, it is one of those things where Kimmy, unfortunately,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: on the show, she has said this that she feels
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: like she can't say shit about Monster.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Like, Monster doesn't clean up.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: He don't do this. I try to, you know, say something.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: You don't have my back in the discipline with him,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: so fuck it. Like, I ain't got shit going on.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And I think, in my opinion, in my opinion, I
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: do think Kimmy was low-key giving Maurice a little bit
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of like, hmm, how did that work out for you?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Because she literally had no say. No shade, no say.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: No say. And if you remember when they would be going,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: when Maurice was in turmoil regarding Monster and what was
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: going on with him, when he was trying to get
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: him to come stay down there with him and stuff,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: he was not open and receptive to Kimmy's ideas, right?
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: And he kind of wanted to figure it out. I'm
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: going to figure this out type shit. And so I
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: agree with you, Carlos. it was time. It was time
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: to be like, all right, you did it your way
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: and look what happened. And I did it my way
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: with mine and look what happened. So maybe you not,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying? The best person, maybe you can,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: it can be a collaborative effort. I think that's what
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: she was trying to like get him to understand. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: even if she was, I mean, look at the outcomes, right?
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It just, Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. And listen, I
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: feel bad for Maurice.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Maurice is, and I will always give him props for
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: this because not too many black men have this.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: And the ones who do, I will always speak to it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Maurice is one of the smartest men I know. He
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: was valedictorian from law school. He graduated law school as
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: a valedictorian. as a black man with his law degree,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: passed the bar the whole nine yards.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: He is incredibly intelligent. He's a very smart guy.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And I think in his defense, like most black fathers,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and I've learned this with my own dad, every black
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: father has this dream for their son.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: It's just they see this is my dream for you.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: And I think that Maurice had a very very specific
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: dream for Monster. And I think, unfortunately for Monster, Monster.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Could not live up to his dad's vision.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And that's why when it comes to parents, because even
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: when it comes to my father, my father did.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Not see any of this. He said... What in this
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you're doing? Honestly, nothing's happening, right?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Because he was sort of like, my dream for you,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: he wanted me to be a reporter for the Detroit
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Free Press.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: They wanted me to be straight.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Dustin, shut up! Allegedly.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Well, that was first.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Darn it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, Dustin.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: He definitely wanted me to be straight first, and then
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: once I came Funny story. I left Detroit at 22
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: because I had to get the fuck out of that town.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I love you, D. And I went to New York.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I came back home and I got my ears pierced, right?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: When I came back and I had a second hole
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: in my ear, right? I came back to visit my
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: dad in Detroit. My dad grabbed my face like this,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: twisted my head like that, to look at the earring
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and he.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Said, you're done, right? And I said, yes. He said, okay. Yeah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Love you, dad.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: So all I'm saying, but guess what? We're good now.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: We're close now. And you know, we're good.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Anyways, so my point is, yes, fathers have dreams for
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: their sons. And listen, it's nice to have a gay son,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: black fathers, embrace them. Because when you guys get older,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: we're the ones that will take care of you.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Along with our sisters.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Because they're going to be my three brothers. No shade
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to them. They don't watch the program. Okay, moving on.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Moving on to the next topic. Um, we got to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: get into, uh, Dustin's favorite, one of Dustin's favorite cast members,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Miss Nell.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Uh, Miss Nell and her husband, Chris met with Marcel
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and Tisha. Miss Nell is shocked and confused by the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: revelation that they lost Whitehall.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, but she is not confused.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: By where she stands when it comes to Kimberly, Kimmy Scott.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: She is pretty much like after their explosive moment at
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the reunion, Miss Nell don't see it for Kimmy. She
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: ain't reaching out to Kimmy. She said what she said
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and she meant it. Dustin, is Nell right for this?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Or do you think Nell should find it deep in
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: her heart to have some grace for Kimmy?
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Well, Kimmy said she ain't got enough grace to give her.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: So she threw a couple more expletives in there when
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: she did it. Everybody don't have to get along. There's
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: going to be people in life, sometimes you just don't
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: like a motherfucker. And you can try your best to
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: be mature and be cordial and lend yourself and your
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: presence to, I guess, promoting peace, right? But sometimes you
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: just don't like a motherfucker. And I think Nell and
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Kimmy just don't like each other. It just is what
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: it is. I think they are not interested in each other.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: I just don't think. It's OK. Just don't like each other.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Just be cordial around each other and let it be that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Because if you look back to that confrontation they had
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: at the reunion last year, they both went to 10 immediately. Right.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I think Nell started it, started like the aggressive back
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: and forth between them. But they both were willing to
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: go right there into that space with one another. And
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I think that's indicative of the fact that I don't
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: like you. And I've just been tolerating you because it's
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: the right thing for me to do in this scenario.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: But the minute I get a chance to tell you
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: you a stinking ass, I'm going to tell you that.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? And I think that that's
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: what we see with both of them. And listen, this
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: is a reality show. And when people don't like each other,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: sometimes it makes for great TV. So let them fight.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Let them go ahead. You know what I'm saying? Let
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: them go ahead and get into it. Like, they don't
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: like each other. They just don't like each other. Put
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: them in that pressure cooker. You know what I'm saying?
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Because they just don't like each other. And the thing
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: about it is Kimmy is even-keeled pretty much on this show, right?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: We see her get passionate sometimes. But for the most part,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: you can tell that Kimmy sets out to show up
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: a certain way as a cast member on this show.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: But there's something about Nell Fletcher. that triggers Kimmy, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: it's something about Kimmy that definitely triggers Nell, and it
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: tickles my fancy. So I look forward to seeing them
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: duke it out all season. Fuck it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Mandy.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Listen, when I tell you I hate Grace, she ain't
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: invited no one. not to a barbecue, not to my house.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: And I can't stand what people say, but where's the grace?
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: You going to invite grace? You going to give grace?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Grace is not invited. I hate, like, it aligns with like,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: but be the bigger person. No, bitch, I'm on Ozempic
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: for a reason. I want to be the smaller person, okay?
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Like, no!
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I hate. And you know what else is crazy?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: When it comes to Kimmy and Elle, what always gets
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: me is how we always have to have grace for,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: or we don't have enough grace, quote unquote, or forgiveness
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: or ways to communicate with women the same way we
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: do men. Because boy, she could tell Marisa thoughts. She
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: can get over the things that he does, how he
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: talked to her. But when it come to now, it's
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: just all this screaming. And I know we're going to
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: get to her in Destiny as well. But I don't know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I am interested with Kimmy's ability to really have, I
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: don't know if she likes women. I don't know if
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: she knows how to show up as a friend. I
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: think that she is very kind of male centered, knows
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: how to show up in her relationship. But that's kind
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: of it. And so if you see just all the
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: dynamics that I've seen every time, she's just kind of
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: up and down. And I know we're going to get
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: into Destiny. I don't know if she knows how to
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: show up for girls at all. And like Dustin said,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: we need entertainment. I love when bitches just know they
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: don't get along. And we ain't got to. We ain't
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: got to fake the funk. And when I come into
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: this room, we going to be cordial because we collecting
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: a check from the kingdom reign over here.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: But.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Outside of that, I ain't got to like you. And
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I actually like seeing those dynamics on TV. Not everybody
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: is for everybody.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Well, since you brought her name up, let's get into
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Destiny and Kimmy. Because, Dustin, you saw the Destiny and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Kimmy scene.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I did. Destiny.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: One thing I did love, and I do think this
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: got lost. When Destiny sold... Martel's investment property, she did
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: contact Kimmy's closing company to be the closing company for
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the house. And I want to go on record acknowledging
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: that because that's the opportunity to put money in Kimmy's pocket.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: So the fact that she did say to Martel, look,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Me and her ain't feeling each other right now.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: On a personal level, but that's a black woman doing business,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm never going to not put food in her mouth.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: So you could be the closing company for this. So
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: that's the reason why they were together during the closing.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: When I say to you guys, when I found that
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: shit out, that is a real thing happening. Thank you, Jesus, right?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: So they have a conversation outside before the deal was
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: done because... Kimmy saw Destiny do an interview on the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: No Chaser TV. Shout out to Chase.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Chase.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: From No Chaser TV podcast where she pretty much said
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that Kimmy's a gaslighter. Kimmy confronted her and said that
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you didn't say this to me. And she was like,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a time. And she said, but I know
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you felt that way. She said, well, you found out.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: On the podcast. and you have every opportunity now to respond.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: She said, but you don't think that I should have
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: known this before the podcast.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: And Destiny said, it is what it is. And that's
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: just that, um, Dustin, what are your thoughts on that?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: And do you agree with Mandy in terms of Mandy
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: saying that she doesn't think can be, uh, you don't
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: think so.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: The girls, girls, what you're saying, right?
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: No, no, I don't.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting. Um, I've seen people have that takeaway
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: with Kimmy on this show, that she's not a girl's
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: girl or whatever. I like Kimmy on the show. I
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: always have. There's something to be said for people who
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: just try. You know what I'm saying? Kimmy has tried
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: to keep things cordial in several different situations on this show.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: And I just respect that. So I don't know. I'm
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: not a girl. You know what I'm saying? So maybe
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I'm missing certain cues here or whatever, but I haven't
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: seen Kimmy really show herself not to be a girl's girl.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: If anything, people get mad because her and Letitia Scott
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: stick together too much, right? So ain't that being a
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: girl's girl? A woman's woman. They older. Shit, I don't know. Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: that's how I feel about it. But I think that
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: in the conversation specifically between Destiny and Kimmy, they both
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: really just wanted to let the other person know how
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: they felt. I don't think that they were interested in
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: hearing how the other one felt. I think Destiny had
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: been waiting on the opportunity to say that stuff to Kimmy,
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: you know, the bit about leaving the airport and just
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. She had a pile of issues to discuss.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Kimmy saw the interview that Destiny did and didn't like it,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: so she wanted to discuss that. And I think that
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: was their intention. And that's why in that conversation there
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: was really no resolve. Because both of them, I think
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: their intent was just to express themselves. as opposed to
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: listening to what the other person had to say.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: They kind of went in, like at one point Kimmy says, well,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: we can agree to disagree. And it's like, well, you
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: don't have the right to tell me how I feel
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: about something.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I'm really telling you how your actions made me feel.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: So kind of like what Dustin said, I think she
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: was just there more to defend herself and, and her
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: behavior than actually hear Destiny out at all. And I agree.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: What's crazy is we have the same kind of conversation
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: in this first episode between Destiny and Kimmy that we
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: had on Real Housewives of Atlanta last year, where it's
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: like certain people where you think should speak up for
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: you in certain moments are being quiet. And if you
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: know that someone is in the wrong, just speak up
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: and be like, oh, you taking it too far. And
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: then I think the tone police thing, y'all know I
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: have a big issue with my tone too. We get
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: a little passionate sometimes. I got a little rasp. I
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: think the fact that Destiny went into that conversation, monotone
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: as hell, made sure she didn't change tone in that
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: conversation and still didn't get the results she wanted out
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: of Kimmy, said everything that we going to see this season.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Kimmy don't want to hear nothing Destiny got to say. Also,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: we've all traveled with friends. We say bye to each
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: other at the airport. Can we not act like that
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: that's not a normal thing to goddamn do? Even if
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: you at the baggage claim, if you getting off the flight,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: you wait for the next person to get off the flight.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Y'all walk to baggage claim together. You say your goodbyes.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Can we act like that was like some alien ass thing? Oh, well,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: we were back in Huntsville, so we just went home. Bro,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: we went on a trip where you were there to
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: support me. You say bye. It's clear that maybe they're
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: just missing each other with expectations. as as to how
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: they're supposed to show up for each other.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Because they're not friends they just be.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: They're not friends in real life there we go.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Just be around each other that's why so yeah they
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: got down on your ass after they left the airport
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: you get your bag you be ready to get the
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: fucking that uber you know i'm saying like i got
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: i'm ready to go home so yes and i've traveled
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: with yeah you know my podcast the friend zone we
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: used to tour back in the day and when we
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: would you know, get our bags and then go our
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: separate ways type shit. But we would say bye to
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: each other, but we actually- I was.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Going to say nothing.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's the difference. Maybe y'all said bye. Yeah, we
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: said bye, but we actually fuck with each other. And
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: I just think they don't fuck with each other.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: There's a difference.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: They're just not friends.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: And I did think it was a reach, Destiny. I've
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: been enjoying, I enjoyed Destiny so much last season. I
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: enjoyed her thoroughly in the season premiere, but bringing up
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: that they didn't speak when they left the airport did
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: feel like, Like a reach.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: It was giving a reach.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I did like her wet and wavy. I do like
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: that hair on her. That was a great hair look.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Destiny looks good. I like her hair dark. She looks good.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: And like I said, Destiny, the way she showed up
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: last season, she kept it so fucking real. And she's
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: just been approaching her space in this cast on this
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: show in a way that I can appreciate these past
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: two seasons. And I think that Destiny is low key.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: star of this season. You know what I'm saying? Like,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Destiny just kind of emerged for me.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Because she changed and started
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: just really being real and speaking to what was going on. So,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know. And again, I thought it was interesting
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: that Destiny felt like when she expressed to Kimmy like, okay, well,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: we get caught up in how I'm saying what I'm saying.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: We don't talk about what the actual issue is. I
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: felt like that same logic can be looked can be
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: used to assess the airport situation, right? You're not mad
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: that they left the airport without saying bye. You mad
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: because when they left the airport without saying bye to you,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: that's how you knew there was a problem. So just
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: focus on what the problem is. Bringing up the fact
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: that they left, they don't owe you no goodbye because
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: y'all don't fuck with each other like that. Y'all just
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: work together. So talk about why y'all don't fuck with
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: each other. That would have been a better conversation because
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: she would have gotten a different reaction out of Kimmy
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: had she said, yo, I noticed that when we went
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: to Detroit, when we got back, y'all left. And I
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: just felt like that means that we really have a disconnect.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: So what is it that you feel like is separating us?
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Because I really would love to nurture. We've been around
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: each other for 10 motherfucking years. I really would love
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: to nurture a relationship with you. And when y'all niggas
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: left me at the airport, that's how I knew that
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: something was broken between us. So what can we do
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: to fix? That's a different question than saying- And.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Then so don't get mad when I get on a
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: podcast and say what I say.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Y'all left me at the airport and didn't say goodbye.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: That was just like, I don't know. It just was,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: it was ineffective. But again, Destiny, my girl, these two seasons.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to stick beside her. I'm going to
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: stick beside her.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Mighty how things have changed. And that's why I always
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: tell the reality girlies.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: We only.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Talk about.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: The episode.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: And things change per episode and or per season. Because
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: if you have been a faithful viewer of Monday Night Live,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you would know that Dustin has a very choice of
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: words based on the episodes, right?
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Based on the episodes, for sure.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so shout out to Dustin for acknowledging the growth
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: in Destiny Payton.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: All right, so up next, I mean, look, it's the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: moment you've all been waiting for. We are going to
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: talk about Martel and Arianne Curry. Arianne Curry made her
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: television debut on this season premiere of Love and Marriage Huntsville.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: She is not only the mother to.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: The son Maverick, that Martel and her share, she is
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: So after being.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: The spoken about but never seen person on this show
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: since day one, Ariana made.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Her debut on this particular episode.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: We learn in this scene that Martel is referring to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: her as his girlfriend. And they did say that they
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: are in love with each other. He also mentioned, though,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: that he's not ready for marriage yet, which is why
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: he got her a house for her and her children,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: because she has a child from a previous relationship. And,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you know, he's like, we'll have to see what happens,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: whether or not she is somebody I want to marry.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Mandy, we'll love to start with you.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: This has been a very controversial conversation since it has
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: been revealed that Arianne is being seen this season on
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Love and Marriage Huntsville because she is Martel's girlfriend and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the mother of his son.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: This is Martel's reality.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: And we are following Martel's reality based on where things
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: stand with the current cast members on the show. But Mandy,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Arianne, the backlash, the people
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: saying that we are rewarding a side chick, and all
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: of those things?
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I think rewarding a side chick is a stretch. I
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: think it's showing reality. The girls don't let a wife
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: keep them from finding they man.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Ever.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Ever.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: And so for me, knowing that she had a baby
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: by this man, knowing how long she's been around, to
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: me also, everyone's saying that this is trifling. Women put
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: women being claimed or with a man or getting a
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: house all above anything else. And so if this woman
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: wants to sit here and be the mistress turned girlfriend,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: potentially turned wife to a man that showed up how
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: he showed up in his last marriage. This isn't a
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: prize to her necessarily, but baby, in society, if we
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: lean into the patriarch, which you love doing, if a
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: girl or a woman gets claimed, she's above being single.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: She's above not having a man at all. So I mean,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: for me, I know the girls are thinking this is disrespectful.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Your mama was a side chick. Your homegirl been a
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: side chick. You probably been a side chick. There's been
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of scenarios where, you know, you can't what?
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Mess up, break a home that's really fixed. Like there's
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: no wrecking a home that isn't already on a good foundation.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Y'all going to hate me. I'm here for this storyline
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: the same way I was happy to see T when
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: she came on to Housewives of Atlanta for a little bit.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Or I'm sorry, Married to Medicine.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Listen, I... I like these type of, because let's be
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: very clear. Greg had her around before he left Quad.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: So I feel like seeing this dynamic and.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Seeing what it really has been for the last- Quad
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: left him.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Whatever the case may be.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Mel kind of- No, that matters. That matters because you're
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: saying he left Quad drives your point in a different direction.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: You have to be clear about what happened. Quad left him.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: And why do you think he had Sweet T around
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: before Quad left him?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Because that was just too quick of her moving into
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: the house. That overlap, I just think that.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: You find- It wasn't quick. They had been divorced for years, Mandy.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: You just be saying shit. It seemed quick.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't quick.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: It seemed quick.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: All I know is, listen, I hear what y'all got
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: to say. Dustin, you going to hate me. I think
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: that Carlos, you ate by bringing Ariana to this goddamn season.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I'm here to see them. actually be together. This first
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: scene was a little tricky, but we'll see. Hopefully them
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: get better. I'm also not going to give any more
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: of my thoughts on Martel because him saying that he
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: don't want to get married and him getting her house
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: and not moving in with her is giving beard, but
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to lean into that too much. I
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: just don't think that this is a love thing, him
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: not wanting to be married. I do think that it's
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: going to be good for TV. But also, y'all, y'all
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: hate seeing side chicks. I love it. I think it
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: gives the reality of a lot of this stuff. Yo,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: grandmama was a side chick. A lot of y'all's parents
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: probably was side chicks, and that's how you got conceived.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: This is the reality, and this is what I want
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: to see. This is what I want to see. I
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: don't know. I'm here for it, Carlos. Thank you.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Not thank you.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Carlos. It's given what we want to see
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: on reality TV, and it's reality. And I think a
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: lot of us, again, when we get into girls, girls,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: and all the ways we think women should show up
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: and care about who else was there. Clearly, she had
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: the baby while he was still married. I just think
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: that that's a false narrative that we put we be
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: putting into the universe because again male center the women
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: just want men they want they want fathers they want
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: partners they want husbands and they'll do it by any
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: means so i'm curious to see how this dynamic flourishes
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: on the.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Tv screen yeah dustin So I've been watching Love and
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Marriage Huntsville from season one, episode one. I remember seeing
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Melody Cherie, who I loved on this show, right? I
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: remember seeing Melody's heart broken to pieces by the existence
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: of this relationship in Martel's life. And I just remember
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: watching that. I remember watching the breakdown of their family.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I remember watching all of that. And I remember watching
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: Martel say things that appeared to not be true and, and,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: and even try to trash Arianne before she was on
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: the show, you know, calling her a peasant and shit
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: like that. So when you know all of that, when
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: you remember all of that, and then you see the
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: things that take place online, you see different commentary from
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Arianne about the show, about everything related to the show,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: about Melody, about we've just seen more from Arianne than anything.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: We seen Arianne talk shit about everybody, right? She's been
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: online since this has been going on because she hasn't
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: had an opportunity to say her side of the story.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: And I do think she has a side of this story.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: She absolutely does. And it's relevant to Martel's story. So
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: her being included is juicy. It's salacious. And it will
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: make us want to watch because I do want to
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: hear what she has to say. The problem is I've
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: heard what she has to say outside of the show.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: And I don't think that she is... a victim in this.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I think that Arianne willfully
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: has played a lot of games with Martel, with their connection.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: She's allowed Martel to have other relationships that we've seen
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: him claim these women publicly. So watching her in this
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: house open this door, taking stickers off of everything she
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: used in the house. So obviously that means that they
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: staged the house for the scene, right? It was some
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: cardboard in the oven and she took out and shit like,
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: It lends to us not believing that they have a
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: real relationship. Arianne was consistently baiting Martel in the conversations
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: while they were in scene to get to prompt him
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: to declare his love for her, to prompt him to
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: talk about wanting to marry her, all these things. I
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: think that Arianne was excited to be on this show
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: because she finally has a say, right? We've watched her
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: be discussed for years on the show And naturally you
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: would assume that she's excited to like say, no, y'all,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: this is how it is. But the problem is that
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: it's not simply what we see on the show. We've
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: been bombarded with a bunch of shit off the show
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: that paints a very clear picture of the kind of
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: choices Arianne makes. You couple that with her introduction to
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: this love and marriage Huntsville world, which was as Martel's mistress.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: And it's hard as a viewer to try to like
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: give her a fair shot or just, believe what she
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: says and the things that you would do typically when
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: a woman finally has a voice in a situation and
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: she's been, you know, painted by the man involved here
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: actually as a certain way. It's only fair to hear
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: her express herself, but she been expressing herself so much
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: about the show, the people on the show, the people
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: that create the show. She's expressed herself so much online.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: that now when I watch her on screen, I don't
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: really believe anything that she says. She was being fake
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: when they opened, when Martel knocked on that door for
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: probably the fourth, probably had to film that scene four
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: or five times, him coming in the house, because you
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: could tell, hey, hey babe, how you doing babe? Good,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: you look good, I missed you. How was work, it's good? Okay,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: come on, let me get you something. It was so fake,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: you know? So it'll be interesting to hear what she
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: got to say. And here the other side, but if
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: this is about to be a season of her avenging
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: conversations that were had about her before she was a
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: part of the cast, I'm not interested. Because you did
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: what they said you did. You allowed Martel to cheat
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: on Melody with you. We saw the phone calls. We
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: saw all of that stuff. So we already know how
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Arianne give it up. It's hard to just... watch her
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: story and give her grace. Like Kimmy said, I ain't,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: you ain't got enough grace to give me. We don't.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Cause we know too much.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Based on what you said, Dustin, it's two shitty people
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: that technically deserve each other and they got everything coming
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: to each other. Like if Martel steps out, are we
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: going to be surprised? Does Arianne get to be the victim? No. Like,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know. To me, they both seem like shitty
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: people that deserve each other at this point.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: And, and, and, for Martel to get on that motherfucking
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: show and say, get in that scene and say, first
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: of all, for Arianne to even mention, and to the
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: all day, shut up. You know what I'm saying? Y'all
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: don't have that. This is not a fairytale love story.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? And what does marriage mean
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: to either one of y'all? What does the Institute of
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: Marriage mean to Martel and to Arianne that they would
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: tout that as, you know, a goal for themselves? Nothing.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: It don't mean shit. They don't respect marriage. So bringing
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: that up in that scene, all of this, Arianne wants
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: to be viewed by the public as legitimate, right? She
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: wants us to understand that Martel and her have an
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: actual connection. They have an actual relationship. He tells her
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: he loves her off camera. He tells her he wants
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: to marry her off camera. I think Arianne wanted to
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: bring all that conversation to the camera in an attempt
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: to change the perception of her by the viewers or whatever,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: but that's never going to happen because like I said,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: these Love and Marriage Huntsville fans, they watch the show
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: and then there's a whole nother world that exists off
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: the show online. They too hip to Arianne's moves. You
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? They already know. So no matter
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: how much posturing as a step for a wife or
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: whatever she does in a scene, cooking with glasses on
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: and an apron and trying to be, you know what
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, a trad wife, you know what I'm saying?
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: We don't believe it. And we don't believe Martel when
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: he says, my queen. It sounded like he was about
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: to laugh. Martel has a way of changing the tone
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: and inflection in his voice when he's lying about stuff
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: or wanting us to believe. You know, I really, I do.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: She's my queen.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I love her.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Listen, I don't know much about medieval times, but I
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: don't think many peasants became queens.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: They didn't. They didn't. And we know Martel doesn't have
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: respect for herself. I'm going to watch this shit. I'm
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: going to talk about it here every week, but I
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: don't believe it. When things are built on a lie,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: it's impossible for them to sustain themselves. And there is
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: no world where I believe that Martel is in love
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: with Arianne. And this was their choice. And this is
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: what we're going to do. And, you know, we make
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: choice to choose each other. I don't believe none of
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: that shit. Y'all got a baby together. And so now
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: you have to be in each other's lives. Because if
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: you felt, if Martel felt that strongly about Arianne, we
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have seen him be with Sharae. We wouldn't have
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: seen her call him, him call her no peasant. I know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: A bunch of people whose relationships started out the wrong way, right?
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: This is not unique to Martel and Arian. People cheat
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: on their spouse all the time, but some people cheat,
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: find the real love of their life, and they end
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: up being together and it's not interrupted by other stuff.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: Martel is playing with Arian. He's been playing with her
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: for years and she's allowing it and being a willing
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: participant and then talking shit online about it. So I
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: will say I'm glad that we now have an opportunity
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: to hear her side. I'm glad that we now are
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: presented with an opportunity to challenge some of the negative
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: thoughts that we had about her. And my hope is
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: that through what we see on the show, we will
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: be able to understand her differently. Based on what I've
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: seen in the trailer, the likelihood of that happening is
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: not very high. And that's the most tactful way I
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: can say any of that because y'all know.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: How I feel.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: That was very tactful.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: You kept that so classy, Dustin.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: I am actually.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Very, like, very positive.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Growth.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Growth.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Growth.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Growth. Also, we got a long season. So we're going
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: to have opportunities. We're going to have opportunities to really
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: dig into the nuance of Arianne's presence on this show.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: We don't have to. None of the three of us,
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: my sisters Claudia and Blue, none of us have to
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: declare anything about this show and Arianne being on it.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: We're going to watch this motherfucker week by week. And
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: we're going to remember where this story started. We're going
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: to recognize it for where it's at right now, but
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: we're not going to forget how it started.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think we should. I'm just glad I get
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: to see it.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: But kudos to you all, Carlos, because putting her on
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: the show was genius and it was time. We needed
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: to hear that. We needed to hear something so that
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: we can really, you know, have opinions about this, you know,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: that are informed. So Melody's gone. You know what I'm saying?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that I'm not upset that Arianne's there
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: because I don't feel like Melody is, you know, affected
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: by her being on the show now because Melody's not
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: on the show no more. But Arianne has work to
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: do to show herself differently than the way that she's
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: shown herself to the fans thus far. I really hope
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: she understands that.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: So the thing that you all will see this season
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: is Everything Dustin and you are saying, Mandy, right? Which
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: is the beginning, the middle, and you know what how
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: everything ends up right I will say in next week's
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: episode a little teaser for you guys because that's the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: beauty of being a part of the Monday Night Live
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: panel this Saturday's episode Arianne comes face to face with
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: the entire cast They get to be in the same
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: room with her for the very first time.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Kimmy, Tisha, Maryse, Marceau, Destiny, Nell, and Chris.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: It's the first time that you are going to see
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Martel introduce Arianne to the cast. And you get to
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: see what happens with that. So, again, this episode obviously
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: was introducing their... home life together, what that looks like,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: this coming Saturday.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Carlos, you playing funny because.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: As a producer, you knew all the plastic was still
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: on that Tupperware.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: Home life. They've been the home goods. Serving dishes and shit.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: You so funny with that.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I don't listen.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: We were given the Airbnb special.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: No, here's the deal. I don't want... The reason why
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like this is because I... Listen, obviously, I have
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: seen everything.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: I know... I know all the answers to Dustin's question.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I know all the answers to Mandy's question. I know
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: how this thing plays out so far. And I'm not
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: going to spoil it for you guys. What I will
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: say is....
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: What I will say is this. To Dustin's point... If
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: you are a first.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not first.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: If you are OG viewer of Love and Marriage Huntsville,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you were there from the beginning of what happened, right?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: The story. What I can confirm is you are going
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: to hear Arianne speak to someone on the.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Show about the beginning, what happened, how she felt... And
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: everything outside of that, you are going to hear that.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: So that does play out this season. So everything Dustin
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: is saying, they're seen supporting it. When she's around the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: group for the first time and around the ladies, and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: like Dustin said, the linebacker comments, all of those things,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: you're going to hear her come.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Face-to-face with those questions.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Um, so I want you all to know, it's not
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: like she's coming in and that's Martel's girlfriend and they
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: skipping in the, in the, in the, in the garden,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: you know, stepping on.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: On daisies, right?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: There's conversation that going to be, that's going to happen.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: And what Dustin and Mandy said too, it's up to
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: you all to obviously take those conversations and, and determine
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: how you feel about it.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: And, and, You're going to get a plethora of that
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: this season.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here for it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: She deserves to answer to the lore that's attached to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: her name. You know what I'm saying? And the people
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: on the cast should be held accountable for the things
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: that they said about it. There needs to be a reckoning.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying? We need to see it.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: And based on what you just said, we're going to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: see it. So I ain't got nothing to say until
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: next week.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take it week by week.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: And Love and Marriage comes back every Saturday at 8
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: o'clock Central on the Oprah Winfrey Network. All right, so Raindrops,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: let us know your thoughts on the season premiere.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: It was excellent. Thank you, Dustin. Thank you, Dustin. And
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: thank you, Mandy, for your comment.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, listen, the confessionals, the intro.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: Excellent.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Very nice. Very nice. You had a little bit more
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: budget with that. It looked very nice.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: It's the flagship. It's different over there with that little
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: marriage contract. That and Bell Collective are going to get
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: the treatment. The checks are checking now.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man. I don't want to come on
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: here and trash Arianne Curry. Arianne, Arianne, her. I don't
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: want to come on here and trash her. But I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: also am not going to come on here and pretend
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: like I don't remember the shit that I remember and
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: know the shit that I know. So that's why I
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: said we're going to talk about it. We're just going
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: to talk about it. You know what I'm saying? And
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: it is what it is.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: So you guys will see that. And then, yes, you
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: guys will see a lot of familiar faces this season.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Isn't Miss Wanda going to get Ariane?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: You will see a lot of familiar faces this season.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: You're saying my daughter. My daughter.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: There you go. And you will see some new faces
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: this season.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: I'm excited. Season premiere was all that. Great season premiere.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Good to see everybody again. I miss them on my screen.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: And I'm excited to talk about it. So, yes.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Good, good, good, good, good, good. Thank you, man.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Did she talk about Shereen?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Do she bring up Sharae? That's what I want to know.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Destiny brings up Sharae.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: And what does Arianne say about that?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Well, Destiny, I need you to watch it, baby.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: You're right. My bad. Look, we ain't on the phone.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: My bad. Right.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: We ain't on the phone. Destiny got lost for a second.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: I did. I'm like, lost?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: What do I get this? What do I get this?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: They say FaceTime.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: No, Carlos, thank you for having me. This was fun.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: I know, Mandy. Thanks for joining Monday Night Live.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Randy.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to this new season and everything you do. Always, Carlos.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I love you. I love you, Dustin.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: I love you, Mandy. Love you, Los.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: You will see myself, Dustin, Mandy, and Claudia this Friday
• 1:05:33
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• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Go to my Patreon.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: We have a hit late night.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Sort of You know, it's a little, listen.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: A little risque, a little spicy.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Listen, the way that Carlos was 10 minutes late, so
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: he felt like he had to give y'all titties. He
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: gives you titties and more on Reality After Dark, okay?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: Y'all got to watch the nasty show. That's what we
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: be talking about, nasty shit. So yeah, y'all got to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: watch that show.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Listen, the thing is this. So, Reality After Dark is
• 1:06:08
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• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: on the risque side, a little sexy and all those things.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: We call it Freaky Fridays.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: So, it's Fridays on my Patreon with the three of
• 1:06:20
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• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan. So you will see her this week. Dustin, Mandy,
• 1:06:27
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• 1:06:29
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• 1:06:29
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:36
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• 1:06:41
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• 1:06:43
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