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Chuck & Buck 10-16 Hour 2: · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Riga dres Let's Surford, how ap there good down. Here's
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Speaker 1: a high fly ball off of the Bata Jimenez that's
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Speaker 1: carrying well.
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Speaker 2: Road Blaze times and watches it gone. It's the nine
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Speaker 2: hitter Andrece.
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Speaker 1: Hemennez of off people giving to off the swing that
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Speaker 1: a desperately needed. It's tied at two. It's not a chase,
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Speaker 1: but it's a wild pitch in the Blue Jays take
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Speaker 1: the league. Varshare cakes a high line drift the right
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Speaker 1: field Rifles wretches of him of fall. Two runs with
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Speaker 1: score version with a double. The Blue Jads offenses.
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Speaker 3: Come to life a five run third.
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Speaker 2: Glenn Junior sends a high drive to deep center field. Rigaz,
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Speaker 2: it's gone. Kirk sends a fly ball the other way,
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Speaker 2: road Blaze sweet treating to the truck.
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Speaker 4: To the runs.
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Speaker 2: Opposite Phil Blass.
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Speaker 1: Frona, Junzo Kirk come a dozen for the James on
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Speaker 1: the fourth.
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Speaker 5: Pot of the time.
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Speaker 6: Fox Sports on the call of that bloodbath last night.
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Speaker 6: The Blue Jays.
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Speaker 4: Ended up at one point, scoring twelve unanswered runs on
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Speaker 4: the way to a thirteen to four convincing victory in
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Speaker 4: Game number three, but have no view the Mariners had
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Speaker 4: a little leg up in the series. They won both
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Speaker 4: games in Toronto and so still have a two games
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Speaker 4: to one lead in the series. Of the Blue Jays
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Speaker 4: still have a lot of work just to catch up
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Speaker 4: to the ends. Let's hope it never happens. Game number
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Speaker 4: four will be played tonight out at T Mobile. Luis
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Speaker 4: Castillo gets the ball for US. Max Scherzer will be
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Speaker 4: starting for the Toronto Blue Jays. We'll talk more about
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Speaker 4: that pitching matchup later on in this hour. First pitches
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Speaker 4: at five thirty eight. So the American League Championship Series
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Speaker 4: rolls on right here in Seattle. Mariners remain oh precious
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Speaker 4: wins away from the World Series. We're gonna talk more
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Speaker 4: about that with our next guest coming up here in
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Speaker 4: a little bit, But first let me rip through some
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Speaker 4: We'll start with the Thursday night football game tonight, Pittsburgh's
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Speaker 4: gonna be at Cincinnati. That gets the brand new week
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Speaker 4: of the National Football League season underway. A battle of
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Speaker 4: forty plus year old quarterbacks. It's Rogers versus y a Tittle. Also,
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Speaker 4: the Seahawks are in action this Monday night against the
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Speaker 4: Houston Texans.
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Speaker 6: Texans off to a two and.
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Speaker 4: Three start, but have the number one defense by far
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Speaker 4: in the National Football League that Sam Darnold and company
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Speaker 4: will have to contend with. Husky's a huge game against
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Speaker 4: the Michigan Wolverines in the Big House in ann Arbor
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Speaker 4: this Saturday. It's another topic we'll discuss with our very
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Speaker 4: high profile next guest here in a little bit. And
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Speaker 4: the Kraken will be in action against the Ottawa Senators tonight,
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Speaker 4: their fourth game of the season and they still have
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Speaker 4: not played a game this season without coming away with
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Speaker 4: at least a point. Let's see if they can keep
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Speaker 4: that trek going tonight in Ottawa. But right now we
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Speaker 4: have to talk to our lovable co worker, friend and
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Speaker 4: face of the franchise. It's David Softy Maler.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it kind of helps, and you turn the microphone on, Bucky,
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Speaker 7: but we don't blame you.
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Speaker 3: After last night. What time did you guys hit the
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Speaker 3: sack last night?
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Speaker 5: By the way, I went to got in bed about
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Speaker 5: eleven thirty and then felt about two thirty.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, one of those just stare at the wall
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Speaker 7: and just yeah, it was awesome. Over every little thing
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Speaker 7: from the game before. How did you handle it? I
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Speaker 7: thought I handled it okay, to be honest with you,
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Speaker 7: you know, I mean honestly, I'm sitting there watching this
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Speaker 7: train wreck unfold in front of my very eyes, and
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Speaker 7: I'm thinking to myself, I know, and this franchise knows
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Speaker 7: exactly what it's like to be doing what Toronto's doing,
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Speaker 7: because in two thousand and one, the Yankees came here
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Speaker 7: and they two games in Seattle, and I.
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Speaker 3: Remember waiting online to get into the clubhouse.
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Speaker 7: After game two, Louke Panella comes walking by the media
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Speaker 7: on his way to the media room and says, we're
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Speaker 7: gonna bring up back here for Game six. And then
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Speaker 7: they went to New York and they hammered the Yankees
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Speaker 7: in Game three, just like the Jays hammered us last night.
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Speaker 7: And the Yankees won a dramatic Game four, famous Game four.
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Speaker 7: I got scars from that Game four, and then they
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Speaker 7: kicked our ass in Game five and the.
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Speaker 3: Series was over.
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Speaker 7: So we were exactly in the same position the Blue
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Speaker 7: Jays were in twenty four years ago after winning a
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Speaker 7: big Game three, And I'm just kind of wondering if
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Speaker 7: the Mariners had lost Game one in Toronto, but now
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Speaker 7: won the last two, right, what would the vibes feel like?
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Speaker 1: Then?
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Speaker 4: Well, I let's let's hope for that same pattern. I'm
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Speaker 4: sorry about what happened to you in two thousand and one,
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Speaker 4: but I'll take that exact game plan described.
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Speaker 8: Let's do that.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, guys, here's the deal.
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Speaker 7: And I'm getting text from people and I'm sure you're
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Speaker 7: thinking the exact same thing I am. Can we kind
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Speaker 7: of agree that it may have been better just to
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Speaker 7: get our ass kicked last night? If we're gonna lose
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Speaker 7: a game three like that, let's not burn through Bizardo,
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Speaker 7: Let's not burn through Brash, Let's not burn through spire Munyos, whatever.
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Speaker 7: Let's have everybody available for game four. Just get drilled
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Speaker 7: in game three? Like, do you really give a damn
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Speaker 7: if you lose two to one or twelve to four,
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Speaker 7: whatever the hell the score was last night this point
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Speaker 7: of the year, a freaking loss is a freaking loss, right,
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Speaker 7: So who gives a damn? And I'm kind of wondering if, honestly,
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Speaker 7: if you're gonna lose a game, is that kind of
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Speaker 7: the way you want to go do it?
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Speaker 8: For sure, there's no doubt.
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Speaker 5: I mean, because you didn't have to blow through anybody
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Speaker 5: while you're in the middle of playing a back to
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Speaker 5: back to back home series.
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Speaker 8: I mean, I am wondering.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds like you're handling this very well,
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Speaker 5: which is very adultprising.
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Speaker 7: Well, I look, man, I mean, sitting there in the stands,
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Speaker 7: there's no fun, and I was like living in the moment,
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Speaker 7: you know, kind of with everybody else, you know, kind
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Speaker 7: of cursing Wilson beyond belief.
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Speaker 3: What the hell is the guy doing? Blah blah blah,
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Speaker 3: get him out of there.
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Speaker 7: But I mean, I just again, you know, you're you're
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Speaker 7: allowed to be emotional during things like this. You're allowed
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Speaker 7: to be logical during things like this. And you go
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Speaker 7: home and you clear your head and maybe you think
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Speaker 7: about it a little bit. You know, you're not really
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Speaker 7: using your brain when you're at the park. You're kind
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Speaker 7: of using your heart a little bit more than your head.
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Speaker 7: And then you get home and you think, all right, well,
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Speaker 7: the guy was at twenty four pitches after two innings,
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Speaker 7: which is perfect, right. I mean, that is just a
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Speaker 7: phenomenal start by George Kirby, and then boom, the wheels
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Speaker 7: fell off the bus fast with that first day b
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Speaker 7: in the top of the third with that double by Clement,
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Speaker 7: and then you're thinking, Okay, you know, maybe maybe at
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Speaker 7: five two you could have yanked him. I would have
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Speaker 7: probably yanked him at six to two, guys, to be
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Speaker 7: honest with you, after the Springer, Homer thinking, yea, all right,
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Speaker 7: with the Jay's bullpen, you still maybe have a shot
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Speaker 7: to come back from a full run deficit. But you know,
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Speaker 7: once you started wearing it even more, you just kind
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Speaker 7: of threw in the t at that point, and you're
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Speaker 7: just making sure you don't have to burn any real
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Speaker 7: legit arms.
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Speaker 3: Out of the bullpen. So again, I just got to
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Speaker 3: think that this decision, and let's go back to the decision.
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Speaker 7: In game number two to start Logan Gilbert over Luis
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Speaker 7: Castillo because Castillo, and you guys correct me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 7: His last start was last Monday, October the fifth. He
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Speaker 7: threw fifteen pitches in that game Friday night against the
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Speaker 7: Tigers in the fifteen in game, which you could just
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Speaker 7: assume was kind of a bullpen day for him. So
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Speaker 7: they could have started him Monday in Toronto, but they
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Speaker 7: didn't want to get him on the road. They wanted
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Speaker 7: to keep him away from the Rogers Center, where his
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Speaker 7: splits on the road are ridiculous compared to his home
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Speaker 7: two point six at home four point.
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Speaker 3: Seven era on the road.
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Speaker 7: So the decision to save Luis Castillo for two day,
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Speaker 7: We're about to find out from Dan Wilson today if
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Speaker 7: that was the right call and a better Dann will
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Speaker 7: be the right call.
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Speaker 4: It feels like a good matchup, feels like a favorable matchup. Sure,
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Speaker 4: he's been really bad over his last six starts of
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Speaker 4: the regular season, but how do how do you map
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Speaker 4: it out? I mean, do you take anything from the
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Speaker 4: Kirby onslaught and with the Wu factor existing here and
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Speaker 4: now suddenly Bryce Miller, I'm not sure we don't want
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Speaker 4: to give him the ball. I think we all maybe
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Speaker 4: want to give him the ball again before the series
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Speaker 4: comes to a close. So looking beyond, we know Castillo
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Speaker 4: is starting tonight, but did last night change the way
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Speaker 4: that you would structure the rest of the series? Starting
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Speaker 4: pitching one, I think.
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Speaker 7: If if, if Luis Castillo doesn't have it tonight, I
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Speaker 7: think Brian Wu's coming in out of the pen. That's
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Speaker 7: my call tonight. In that care, I think I think
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Speaker 7: you got to go to Brian wu today. I mean,
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Speaker 7: this is this is you know I thought yesterday Again.
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Speaker 7: I know, logically, technically it's not a do or die game.
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Speaker 7: I wanted them to approach it like it was a
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Speaker 7: do or die game and act like they were down
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Speaker 7: oh two, and go get the three to zero lead
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Speaker 7: and deal a death blow to Toronto and just finish
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Speaker 7: them off. But I don't want nothing to do man
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Speaker 7: with going back to Toronto, and I certainly want nothing
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Speaker 7: to do with let those guys tie this thing up
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Speaker 7: at two games apiece. So I would approach Luis Castillo
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Speaker 7: tonight exactly almost the way that the Mariners approached Logan
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Speaker 7: Gilbert on Monday, and the way the Blue Jays approached
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Speaker 7: Shane Bieber in Game three of their Yankees series. You know,
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Speaker 7: after a couple innings, if it's if it's obvious that
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Speaker 7: the big guy doesn't have it, I'd get Brian Wo
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Speaker 7: up and I'd have him ready to go and to
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Speaker 7: ready to enter this game as early as maybe the
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Speaker 7: second or the third inning, because they've they've got to
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Speaker 7: win this game tonight, Chuck, for exactly the point that
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Speaker 7: you just made, You've got Luis Castillo versus Max Fings Scherzer.
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Speaker 7: You get this would be a huge gift for Toronto
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Speaker 7: to win this game tonight. You can't let that happen.
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Speaker 8: Tonight. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he will too.
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Speaker 8: Man, I think so. I mean, I don't know if
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Speaker 8: he's gonna be perfect.
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Speaker 5: This is this team can hit, but I think that
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Speaker 5: we should be able to outdo our offense, should be
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Speaker 5: able to outdo theirs. I mean, so it sounds like
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Speaker 5: you're in the right frame of mind, and I'm proud
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Speaker 5: of you for that.
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Speaker 7: I changing an hour, by the way, I know, we're
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Speaker 7: jumping online and reading social media and blah blah blah.
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Speaker 3: That could change in an hour. Yeah, and yet I don't.
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Speaker 5: I mean, if if things were to not go according
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Speaker 5: to plan tonight and then you find yourself tied up,
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Speaker 5: then I'm certain that you and a bunch of other
10:17
Speaker 5: people here in Seattle will. But I mean when it
10:19
Speaker 5: comes to a couple guys, I mean trying to find
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Speaker 5: silver linings in this whole thing. I mean, Randy goes deep.
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Speaker 5: It would be nice to get him going. Geno hits
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Speaker 5: the ball hard, that would be nice to get him going.
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Speaker 5: Because I think that you we have a better pitching staff,
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Speaker 5: and we could go out there and shove against these
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Speaker 5: guys just like we did the first couple of games.
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Speaker 5: There's an opportunity though, this this this group of hitters
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Speaker 5: you're going against, that they could score for a five
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Speaker 5: a game against whoever you're putting out there, or maybe
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Speaker 5: a couple guys in the bullpen or whatever it might be.
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Speaker 5: So how are you feeling about just the hitters and
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Speaker 5: what you think maybe they can do the rest of
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Speaker 5: the series.
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Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing, Bucky, And again, this is this
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Speaker 7: is what I'm talking about when you're talking about just
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Speaker 7: being emotional and living in the moment and all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: And you know, am I glad that Randy went yard
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Speaker 3: last night? Yeah?
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Speaker 7: But I'd like to see him do it in a
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Speaker 7: different spot besides down ten nothing or turn two. Whatever
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Speaker 7: the hell the score was last night? Was it twelve
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Speaker 7: two when he hit that bomb? I had twelve to two?
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Speaker 7: I got no idea. So look, I mean, if that's
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Speaker 7: him heating up, if that's him finding something for today's game,
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Speaker 7: then great, But if not, no, I'm not going to
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Speaker 7: get jacked up at all about a guy going yard
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Speaker 7: down ten and basically popping a meaningless bomb when the
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Speaker 7: game was over. So I need to see more from him.
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Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean, we know the Mariner offense is
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Speaker 7: much different on the road than they are at home.
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Speaker 3: They have been all year long, I mean.
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Speaker 7: And that's why last night was so disappointing out of
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Speaker 7: George Kirby, and it's why I kind of feel good
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Speaker 7: about Luis Castillo tonight. First of all, you know, when
11:53
Speaker 7: was the last time well, I mean, going back to
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Speaker 7: the Mets and Phillies trip, obviously, you know the idea
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Speaker 7: of seeing these guys just raked for three games in
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Speaker 7: a row, Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, and now Luis Castillo.
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Speaker 7: I would bet money against that happening. And the number
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Speaker 7: two of the pitching staff at home has been balls
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Speaker 7: all year long. So if I can't count on a
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Speaker 7: guy in Luis Castillo who's got a split of home
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Speaker 7: versus road of over two freaking runs to deliver in
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Speaker 7: the biggest game of the year, then when count I
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Speaker 7: count on that?
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Speaker 9: Right?
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Speaker 7: So I don't think this will be a high scoring game.
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Speaker 7: I don't think the Mariners offense is capable consistently of
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Speaker 7: putting up a lot of runs in that ballpark, but
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Speaker 7: traditionally nobody is. I know, the Blue Jays did it
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Speaker 7: last night, but you know, let's hope that was just
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Speaker 7: kind of a flash in the pan. So I'm not
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Speaker 7: expecting Bucky of the offense to do fireworks tonight. What
12:43
Speaker 7: I'm expecting is another nail bier, just like we had
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Speaker 7: in Game four of that Yankee series in two thousand
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Speaker 7: and one. I think you're going to see a tight
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Speaker 7: game and the seventh inning, and I think hopefully in
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Speaker 7: the end knock on wood. The idea that you were
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Speaker 7: able to rest all your good arms and the ball
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Speaker 7: last night will pay dividends tonight in the seventheith to night, tonight.
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Speaker 4: And tomorrow because now you can use all four of
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Speaker 4: your best guys the next two nights. Softie is with
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Speaker 4: us here on Chuckerback in the morning. He always joins
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Speaker 4: us every Thursday Thursdays with Softy Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 4: point three k a RFM. Normally we talk Huskies, and
13:17
Speaker 4: so we do need a couple of minutes. I mean,
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Speaker 4: is a huge game, I mean huge Jetfish does get
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Speaker 4: his you know, road win in the Big ten, his
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Speaker 4: road win number one, and then his road win in
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Speaker 4: the Big Ten. So he's knocked a couple things off
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Speaker 4: the list of things he has to get accomplished this season.
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Speaker 4: But he really needs a big, nice, fat win that
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Speaker 4: gets gets notice and that could come this weekend at Michigan.
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Speaker 4: So how big do you think this game is for
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Speaker 4: the Jetfish program? Well, here's here's here's.
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Speaker 3: What I think, man.
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Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of people out there that
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Speaker 7: have a lot of fantasies about what Husky football could
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Speaker 7: do this year, and if they win this game Saturday
13:58
Speaker 7: at Michigan, a lot of the people that have those
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Speaker 7: fantasies are gonna get louder and louder and louder with
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Speaker 7: their take about the college football playoff. Honestly, you win
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Speaker 7: this game, and you're six and one, and you're looking at, Okay,
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Speaker 7: a bad UCLA team, a bad Purdue team, a bad
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Speaker 7: Wisconsin team. That's nine wins right there. Illinois's coming to town.
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Speaker 7: They've proven that they can get smacked by anybody. They're
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Speaker 7: a good team, but they've also proven they may not
14:23
Speaker 7: be a great team. And they're coming to town. That's
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Speaker 7: ten wins right there. And then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 7: you're talking about Hey, is that Duck game in November
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Speaker 7: maybe gonna be for a spot in the College Football Playoff?
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Speaker 7: I mean a ten to two Big Ten team? Does
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Speaker 7: that team get left out of the tournament? So I
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Speaker 7: think this is a huge fork on the road game
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Speaker 7: for ub but a huge fork on the road game
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Speaker 7: for jed Fish because I just look at the rest
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Speaker 7: of the schedule and I just think, again, Ucla Perdue, Wisconsin,
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Speaker 7: Illinois at home, those are games the Huskies probably should win.
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Speaker 3: And that's ten wins guys, right there. Ten for the
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Speaker 3: game with the Ducks. So this game is everything.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, unbelievable. I mean, how how confident do you
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Speaker 5: feel going into the Big House? I mean a road
15:10
Speaker 5: game is one thing against Rutgers, but I mean a
15:12
Speaker 5: road game in the Big House is a different ball game.
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Speaker 7: Well, I've never seen a victory there as a fan,
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Speaker 7: so I'm not going to this one. I'm staying home, right,
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Speaker 7: I'm taking one for the team. Every time I go
15:21
Speaker 7: to Michigan, weird things happen. Twelve men in the field,
15:25
Speaker 7: we got our ass kicked by somebody, blah blah blah.
15:27
Speaker 7: The last time we were there was the well Mike
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Speaker 7: McDonald was the the DC from Michigan and he kicked
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Speaker 7: our ass. And that's the day that Dick Beard quit,
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Speaker 7: by the way, last time he went to Michigan to
15:38
Speaker 7: take on the Wolverine. So I've had a lot of
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Speaker 7: bad memories from those from those those games in that stadium.
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Speaker 3: So I'm I'm staying home for this one.
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Speaker 7: But I feel, you know, I feel better about it
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Speaker 7: because they got a freshman quarterback in Bryce Underwood.
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Speaker 8: Bucky.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how ready he is.
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Speaker 7: I think he might be a really good player down
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Speaker 7: the road, but I mean, my god, I would take
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Speaker 7: Demon Williams as a red shirt freshman one hundred times
15:59
Speaker 7: out of one hundred over Bryce Underwood right now as
16:02
Speaker 7: a true freshman. And you look at Michigan, Man, this
16:05
Speaker 7: is not the same defense that we saw a couple
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Speaker 7: of years ago play the Huskies for the national title.
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Speaker 7: They're eleventh in the Big Ten in total defense, thirteenth
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Speaker 7: in the Big Ten in past defense. They are third
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Speaker 7: and rushing, but then they gave up one hundred and
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Speaker 7: sixty yards to a freaking walk on last week against
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Speaker 7: USC So this might be the week that Jonah Coleman
16:23
Speaker 7: starts going bananas.
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Speaker 3: He really hasn't done much, by the way, in the
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Speaker 3: Big Ten.
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Speaker 7: He's like sixteenth in rushing yards in Big Ten games
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Speaker 7: only after three games.
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Speaker 3: So it's time to get number one going.
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Speaker 7: So I'm not saying I'm overly cocky about walking into
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Speaker 7: Michigan and getting a victory, but I feel a lot
16:38
Speaker 7: better about it now than I would have two or
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Speaker 7: three years ago.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, well, you better get cocky.
16:42
Speaker 7: We need some We need cockyty on hand until I
16:45
Speaker 7: need to get Kaki. I need Luis Castillo to get Kaki.
16:49
Speaker 7: I need Luis Castillo to go out there like he's
16:53
Speaker 7: the best freaking picture, walk in the face of the
16:56
Speaker 7: freaking earth and shove it right up.
16:58
Speaker 3: There, kannuck asses tonight. That's what I need.
17:00
Speaker 7: And by the way, did you guys notice that there
17:03
Speaker 7: was a lot less Blue Jay fans in his hands
17:05
Speaker 7: last night than there normally is for a regular season game.
17:08
Speaker 7: You know what, though, every single one of them was
17:10
Speaker 7: in my god darn section, every single one, including some
17:14
Speaker 7: Jackwagon that was in.
17:15
Speaker 3: Full Blue Jay gear, pants and uniform and hat.
17:23
Speaker 7: Sons of bitches. I'll send you a picture, Bucky. You
17:26
Speaker 7: would have knocked this guy out just on principle. Yeah, yeah,
17:29
Speaker 7: he can't work. Was a freaking cup and some EyeBlack.
17:34
Speaker 8: Not good.
17:36
Speaker 3: We have to win just to beat that guy.
17:38
Speaker 8: Yeah.
17:39
Speaker 7: I don't know what it is about these Canadians man
17:41
Speaker 7: with their little beady eyes.
17:44
Speaker 6: And they're flay off.
17:46
Speaker 8: Yeah, I hear you.
17:47
Speaker 3: I wanted to fight everybody.
17:50
Speaker 6: All right, man, Well we'll see you later on today.
17:52
Speaker 6: How about that?
17:53
Speaker 3: Okay, buddy, Hey, good job last night. Guys.
17:55
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you David Softy Maller joining us here every
18:00
Speaker 4: Thursday to talk some Husky football.
18:01
Speaker 3: But of course he's got other things on his mind
18:03
Speaker 3: right now.
18:04
Speaker 4: All right, Coming up next on the program Factor Fiction Plus,
18:08
Speaker 4: we will discuss Max Scherzer. I've been teasing this for
18:12
Speaker 4: like three straight segments. We might as well get that done.
18:14
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Speaker 8: Geez your coorspect and normal.
18:22
Speaker 6: Coming up Factor Fiction at seven thirty five.
18:24
Speaker 4: In the meantime, Max Shirs are getting the start for
18:28
Speaker 4: the Toronto Blue Jays. And what certainly is you know,
18:32
Speaker 4: maybe you did have a game to play with last night.
18:34
Speaker 4: I know that's not the way you approach playoff games.
18:36
Speaker 4: You gotta seize every single opportunity that you have. But
18:40
Speaker 4: with a two to zero lead, Yeah, I think even
18:43
Speaker 4: a Mariner fan and a Mariner fans tend to overreact some.
18:47
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've noticed I've heard that.
18:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think even they are taking in stride, like,
18:51
Speaker 4: all right, still up two games to one, Still in
18:54
Speaker 4: a really good position here, and we do have the
18:56
Speaker 4: pitching advantage tonight on paper. Luis Castillo going again, it's
19:00
Speaker 4: Max Scherzer. Now you hear that from the past, and
19:03
Speaker 4: you're having to face Max Scherzer in a really big
19:06
Speaker 4: playoff game, you might not even show up to work.
19:09
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy's going to the Hall of Fame someday,
19:11
Speaker 4: first ballot. This is one of the great competitors in
19:14
Speaker 4: the history of Major League Baseball, and that has not changed.
19:18
Speaker 4: He's gonna show up today. He's going to chew through
19:20
Speaker 4: the walls to get out to the mound. He's gonna
19:23
Speaker 4: be sweating and snorting and everything else. He's gonna be
19:25
Speaker 4: looking at you with those weird mismatched eyes of his
19:29
Speaker 4: and staring you down. And so that part portion of
19:32
Speaker 4: Max Schurzer is gonna show up tonight to try to
19:35
Speaker 4: do damage against the Mariners lineup. Unfortunately he just or
19:40
Speaker 4: fortunately for us, unfortunately for him, he just doesn't bring
19:45
Speaker 4: the Max Scherzer talent that he once had. I mean,
19:48
Speaker 4: this is somebody that's forty years old. He has not
19:51
Speaker 4: had a quality start since August fourteenth. That's seven straight
19:57
Speaker 4: starts where he's not produce seeing results that the Toronto
20:03
Speaker 4: Blue Jays needed to see in order to put him
20:05
Speaker 4: into their American League Divisional Series rotation.
20:08
Speaker 6: He didn't even make the roster.
20:10
Speaker 4: So this is somebody that certainly is very accomplished, but
20:14
Speaker 4: it's been a long time since Max Scherzer has been
20:17
Speaker 4: Max Scherzer, and I hope he doesn't show up tonight.
20:20
Speaker 8: Right And when you say it's been since August what nineteenth?
20:24
Speaker 8: Is that what we said?
20:25
Speaker 5: See he's had a quality start you're talking. I mean
20:29
Speaker 5: those most previous starts September twenty fourth, back in the
20:32
Speaker 5: regilar season, five innings, ten hits and gave it four runs,
20:36
Speaker 5: so not good, not atrocious.
20:38
Speaker 8: The one before that two thirds of an inning, seven runs.
20:42
Speaker 5: So we're talking not only is he not cy youngish,
20:45
Speaker 5: he's been so bad that he's not even in a
20:49
Speaker 5: five game series. You know, we're definitely not going to
20:52
Speaker 5: use him now seven game series, Okay, they don't have
20:55
Speaker 5: five starters that you feel good about like some teams do.
21:00
Speaker 5: And so yeah, this is one where he's forty one
21:03
Speaker 5: years old. Things don't come in there the same way.
21:06
Speaker 5: You definitely don't have I mean, very few people are
21:09
Speaker 5: like Nolan Ryan that still are unbelievably dominant late into
21:13
Speaker 5: their career. Typically you watch guys, I mean, watch Kershawn,
21:17
Speaker 5: you just watch a bunch of guys.
21:18
Speaker 8: They're just not the same.
21:19
Speaker 5: As they get up, the effectiveness of the actual pitch,
21:23
Speaker 5: the individual individual pitch is not as good, and then
21:26
Speaker 5: your ability to locate it and change speeds and snap
21:30
Speaker 5: things off in the late life, all that stuff changes
21:32
Speaker 5: a little bit. So this is one where it feels
21:35
Speaker 5: like it's an advantage for us, but you still have
21:38
Speaker 5: to go out and take advantage of the mistakes.
21:41
Speaker 8: Right.
21:41
Speaker 5: He's a lot of times old guys that had crazy
21:44
Speaker 5: dominant stuff they have a hard time figuring out how
21:46
Speaker 5: to pitch to less contact because they were so good
21:49
Speaker 5: pitching too contact because it was dominant. I think he's
21:52
Speaker 5: one of those guys, and yet you're gonna have to
21:54
Speaker 5: make him pay for it when he makes mistakes.
21:56
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Speaker 4: Right, all right, And I've been torn between two picks,
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22:46
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22:50
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22:52
Speaker 4: the gut. I think the Washington Commanders have not played
22:56
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23:00
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23:04
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23:08
Speaker 4: really good football. And now that Jade Daniels is back
23:11
Speaker 4: from his injury after a couple of weeks, I think
23:13
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23:16
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23:18
Speaker 4: they should have never lost. They're facing a division rival
23:22
Speaker 4: and the Dallas Cowboys, who are so bad they lost
23:25
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23:29
Speaker 4: is going to get it together this year. I do
23:32
Speaker 4: think Washington is going to get it together this year,
23:35
Speaker 4: and I think it starts this week.
23:37
Speaker 6: Weather's not going to be a factor.
23:39
Speaker 4: Yes, they're a road favorite, but they're only giving the
23:43
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys two points.
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Speaker 6: I think the Commanders are easily winning this game by
23:48
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23:50
Speaker 4: So I'm going to go ahead and lay the two
23:52
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23:56
Speaker 4: take the Washington Commanders. With Jaden Daniels getting into form,
24:01
Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin coming off of the injury list this week,
24:04
Speaker 4: I think the Commanders are gonna put their foot in
24:07
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24:10
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24:13
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24:28
Speaker 8: Now.
24:28
Speaker 5: There they've been pretty potent scoring, and so I think
24:31
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24:33
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24:36
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24:39
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24:41
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Speaker 8: I think it's a get right game for their offense.
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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, we just bitch in game number three. We'd
26:34
Speaker 6: like to do it again, friend.
26:36
Speaker 4: No, f Off, I don't know what you're doing self
26:42
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26:56
Speaker 4: Of course, the Mariners back at action, game number four
26:59
Speaker 4: of the Perican League Championship Series tonight. It'll be Castillo
27:03
Speaker 4: versus Max Scherzer. That is going to be your pitching matchup.
27:06
Speaker 4: We'll talk more about what happened last night, how the
27:09
Speaker 4: team should react this evening coming up here in our
27:12
Speaker 4: eight o'clock hour. We still got Abcson the M's coming
27:15
Speaker 4: your way. Ryan Heeley's going to be joining us today
27:17
Speaker 4: in the nine o'clock hour. So obviously doing a lot
27:20
Speaker 4: on the Mariners, But the X factor of this round
27:23
Speaker 4: of the playoffs is starting to come into focus, and
27:27
Speaker 4: that is Brian Wu. He made the American League Championship
27:31
Speaker 4: Series roster. He was our best pitcher during the regular season.
27:36
Speaker 4: We haven't even been able to use him because of
27:39
Speaker 4: the peck injury he suffered against the Astros. Maybe the
27:42
Speaker 4: best pitching performance of the season, maybe the most important
27:45
Speaker 4: regular season game that we played, was the last time
27:49
Speaker 4: Brian Wu pitched, and he pitched very effectively. But he's
27:52
Speaker 4: obviously not one hundred percent and there's a little bit
27:55
Speaker 4: of a question mark just about how effective he will be.
27:58
Speaker 4: Having sat on the sidelines for a while and just
28:02
Speaker 4: pitched bullpens here as of late.
28:04
Speaker 6: Well, it's kind of tough.
28:05
Speaker 4: I mean, every game is obviously precious, So how do
28:10
Speaker 4: you enter Brian Wu into this series? When the series began,
28:15
Speaker 4: there was sort of this tentatively scheduled to pitch game
28:19
Speaker 4: number five plan for him. But as the last bit
28:23
Speaker 4: of analysis that I heard before I put my head
28:25
Speaker 4: on the pillow last night was that maybe Brian Wu
28:29
Speaker 4: they feel better at this stage using him out of
28:32
Speaker 4: the bullpen rather than having him start a game in
28:35
Speaker 4: this playoff.
28:36
Speaker 6: I don't know.
28:37
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody really knows, but I mean, you
28:41
Speaker 4: have to use them at some point. How are you
28:43
Speaker 4: going to use Brian.
28:45
Speaker 8: Wu going forward? Yeah?
28:47
Speaker 5: I think that the idea. Right we heard his press
28:49
Speaker 5: conference yesterday. Was it right or day before yesterday? When
28:54
Speaker 5: he was basically talking after he'd thrown the simulated game.
28:58
Speaker 5: It was ago two days ago there in Toronto, right
29:00
Speaker 5: through to some live hitters and afterwards basically you hear
29:05
Speaker 5: a good part where he says I'm ready to rock
29:07
Speaker 5: and roll. The last box to be checked is when
29:10
Speaker 5: they tell me when I'm gonna pitch. Then later on
29:12
Speaker 5: he answered the question of what percentage are you and
29:15
Speaker 5: he says, well, nobody's one hundred percent right now, everybody's
29:18
Speaker 5: kind of feeling banged up, Like, oh, I don't want to.
29:20
Speaker 8: Hear that that said.
29:23
Speaker 5: When I hear those it sends my mind in two
29:25
Speaker 5: different directions. And then when I see him walking out
29:28
Speaker 5: to the bullpen, or I hear that he walked out
29:29
Speaker 5: to the bullpen in the third inning, and Dan says, well,
29:32
Speaker 5: we just thought that was a good chance for him
29:33
Speaker 5: to get acclimated, and they maybe were thinking about using
29:38
Speaker 5: him in that situation. I I don't mind the idea
29:42
Speaker 5: of at some point in time tonight, tomorrow, the next day,
29:47
Speaker 5: if you don't pencil him into start. But you find
29:50
Speaker 5: yourself in a game, you're up three to one and
29:54
Speaker 5: in the third inny fourth inning, guy gets in a
29:56
Speaker 5: little bit of trouble and you're like, here's the time
29:59
Speaker 5: to bring him in, right when you have a little
30:01
Speaker 5: bit of a lead, and you're like, okay, this is
30:03
Speaker 5: or it's tide ball game. Maybe the team comes back
30:05
Speaker 5: and ties it up, whatever it might be. Maybe you
30:07
Speaker 5: tie the game up and you're like, okay, here a
30:10
Speaker 5: new game. We don't want to have Castillo go through
30:14
Speaker 5: this lineup for a third time, Boom, you can bring
30:16
Speaker 5: him in there in the fifth inning.
30:17
Speaker 8: And something like that.
30:18
Speaker 5: I think that there's a way in which you could
30:20
Speaker 5: use him there. I'd like to see him start a game,
30:23
Speaker 5: But I don't know how that he's feeling, about how
30:26
Speaker 5: his peck is actually feeling. If they're thinking he can
30:28
Speaker 5: go on her pitches because he hasn't gotten to do
30:31
Speaker 5: an actual rehab to this whole thing as far as
30:34
Speaker 5: ramping up with rehab starts and whatnot.
30:36
Speaker 8: So I just don't know how he's feeling. But I'm
30:38
Speaker 8: wanting him in the game for sure.
30:40
Speaker 4: Well I get to use him out of the bullpen,
30:42
Speaker 4: I think maybe that is the way to go. But
30:43
Speaker 4: there's no way he's I mean, it's strange enough for him.
30:46
Speaker 4: I'm not bringing him in the middle of an inning
30:48
Speaker 4: with traffic on the basis there's no chance that I'm
30:50
Speaker 4: going to do that.
30:51
Speaker 8: With Brian Wu.
30:53
Speaker 3: But I will.
30:55
Speaker 4: I will say like last night was kind of the
30:57
Speaker 4: perfect opportunity to use him. You know, in hindsight, I
31:02
Speaker 4: realize the game moves fast and you didn't really have
31:05
Speaker 4: time to prepare.
31:06
Speaker 6: But to bring him in if you're not. If they're certain,
31:09
Speaker 6: start him, they're not worried about it.
31:11
Speaker 4: Start him in game number five, okay, But if you
31:14
Speaker 4: do have someone like worries about it and you're not
31:18
Speaker 4: sure how he's going to react, man at five to two,
31:22
Speaker 4: trailing five to two, and then you just hand it
31:25
Speaker 4: over to him in the fifth inning and see how
31:27
Speaker 4: he performs.
31:28
Speaker 6: That probably would have been the best situation.
31:32
Speaker 4: I just I think that the George Kirby thing snowballed
31:35
Speaker 4: on them so quickly that they couldn't get him to
31:39
Speaker 4: the bullpen and warmed up in an efficient amount of time,
31:43
Speaker 4: and then once it was six to two and seven
31:46
Speaker 4: to two, then there's no point.
31:48
Speaker 6: Why are you going to use Brian Wu in that situation?
31:52
Speaker 6: There's obviously a feeling with them that not.
31:55
Speaker 4: Only is he going to help us in this series,
31:58
Speaker 4: not only are going to use him in this year,
32:00
Speaker 4: he can really help us in this series. And it's
32:02
Speaker 4: just how do you introduce him back into a rotation
32:08
Speaker 4: that is pretty damn strong even without him. So it's
32:13
Speaker 4: a tricky one, there's no question about it. I mean,
32:16
Speaker 4: this is a territory that he's never ventured into, and
32:21
Speaker 4: it stinks that We've had to come this far without
32:24
Speaker 4: him pitching. I want him to be tested in this
32:27
Speaker 4: series at the very minimum. How you go about that,
32:30
Speaker 4: I'm really not sure, and I don't think Dan Wilson,
32:32
Speaker 4: Jerry Depoto, and Justin Hollander are sure either.
32:34
Speaker 8: Yeah, and there's.
32:35
Speaker 10: Probably no perfect formula to do it. I would like
32:38
Speaker 10: if the Mariners win tonight, I would like to see
32:40
Speaker 10: him available in the bullpen tomorrow, like you start Bryce
32:43
Speaker 10: Miller and then if Miller gets into a little trouble,
32:46
Speaker 10: you bring Brian will in in the third and fourth
32:50
Speaker 10: Emmy or something like that, similar to how we use
32:53
Speaker 10: the bullpen last Friday, Right, Because at this point, if
32:56
Speaker 10: you win tonight tomorrow, you're trying not to go back
32:58
Speaker 10: to Canada, so you're pulling out all.
33:00
Speaker 4: It's very funny that you say it that way, And
33:02
Speaker 4: maybe we should spill this conversation over into our next
33:05
Speaker 4: segment because up three to one might be an opportunity
33:11
Speaker 4: to experiment with this. But as you said, I don't
33:15
Speaker 4: want to go back to Toronto. Like every single game now,
33:18
Speaker 4: we probably punted the one game that we had a
33:22
Speaker 4: little bit of leeway on. Now it feels like even
33:26
Speaker 4: with a three to one lead, winning Game number five
33:30
Speaker 4: still feels important, and not giving them momentum, and certainly
33:35
Speaker 4: not giving them momentum heading back home. So it just
33:40
Speaker 4: it's all just very tricky. It is all very tricky, Brian.
33:43
Speaker 4: If you've never gotten hurt, we would never had to
33:44
Speaker 4: deal with this. Thanks a lot, Brian, stupid pecks. All right,
33:48
Speaker 4: we'll roll this conversation into our next segment. We'll recap
33:51
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33:54
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