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EP 492 From Demotion to Devotion: Celeste's Journey to Opening a Wellness Center · Celeste The Therapist

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Hi, my name is Celeste. I'm a therapist from Boston and
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this episode is being released on my birthday, November
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6th. I am turning 42 years old
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and I just celebrated my grand opening of
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my wellness center. So I wanted to take time out to
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record an episode about the journey because I
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always am very transparent about how I've
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Been developing things over the years and I
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know I have people that's been rocking with me for a long time But I also have some
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new people and so I want to use like share
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my story and so that people can You
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know have hope that's why I created this podcast. So I I'm
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gonna rewind a little bit, right? So probably
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in about 2012, 2013, I
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was working at a shelter and I was
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there at that point for about 10 years. I had my master's, I
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wasn't making a lot of money, but I really enjoyed what I did. And
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I remember I got demoted. So, I got demoted and
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I remember they took $5,000 from my pay and
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my hours changed. So, I
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was a supervisor for case managers and they demoted me to a
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case manager. No real explanation. I've
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always been a non-conformist. I've always asked questions. And when I say non-conformist,
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not disrespectful, I'm not
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someone that is rude, but I'm going to
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ask questions, right? If something doesn't make sense, hey, or if I
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feel like something's not right, I'm going to ask questions. And I was working
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in a nonprofit space, and I understood the assignment that
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they wanted you to just say yes, sir, no, sir. They
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don't want you to ask questions, right? So I got demoted at that point.
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I didn't have my license for my degree. So I had got my master's
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in counseling and I didn't get
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my license at that point. So then
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because I got demoted, I said to myself, oh, snap Celeste,
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you're disposable. So it propelled me
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to go and get my license. So I studied for
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my test, half studied, failed it. And then
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I said, you know what, Celeste, you barely studied. So
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then for the next three months, I locked myself in the basement one hour
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a week minimum. I mean, one hour a day. Cause I have to
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study hard and I passed it, right?
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So I passed the test and I got my license
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and I was working at another nonprofit. It was fine, but
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I felt like I was putting Band-Aids on things and I had this passion to
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want to do more. And also during that time,
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I had a
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supervisor that was a black lady and she would talk about, oh,
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you should do a private practice. And I said, you know, like, why would
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I do that? You know what I'm saying? I got sick time, vacation time. I'm
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on salary. The job was fine.
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There was no pressure. I didn't feel pressure from the
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top. I just knew my assignment and I'm going to get my work done. But
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I was like, Celeste is more, right? I feel
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like God has driven me in this direction. As I'm sharing this story, as
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you can see, I never had this grandiose plan. So
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now I decide, okay, let
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me work on creating a private practice. So
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when I started to have the idea, it took me about eight months to start
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it. I actually, in September,
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2015, I decided to do part-time. So I would rent space
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for $10 an hour here and there and see clients. And
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then April of 2016, or I would
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say March of 2016, I was talking to this white
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man. He owned a pharmacy and he said to me like, Celeste, when are you going to
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have your own? Cause he knew I was doing private practice on the side. I
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was like, you know, I need everything to be put together. You know what I'm saying? And
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he said to me, Celeste, you know, people like you will never have
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their own because you're waiting for things to be in a nice, neat package. I
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felt challenged. One thing about me, if you say I can't do it,
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I'm going to show you how I can do it. I've always been that way. And
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I went home that night, and there was this platform called Craigslist. It's
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still around. It was more popular back in the day. And I
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went on Craigslist, and I told my husband. I was like, oh, this is what
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he said. I'm just going to look and see what's out there. And so I found space
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in Roxbury, which is in Boston. And I
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found space for $1,200 a month. It was a one-room suite.
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And I decided I was gonna get it and I was gonna call it
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the Uniting Center. I had a vision and a plan
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of creating a center where people can come
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do meditation, do all these different things, right? So
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I had the office, I had a bathroom and had a waiting room. And
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so that was my vision. That's why I called it the Uniting Center, because I
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wanted all these different things to unite and come together to
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help people with their healing process. So April, I
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got the space. I started practicing. And
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then what happened was around May,
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I said to my husband, I was like, oh my gosh, there's a lot. Like I was inundated
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with clients. advertising or
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trying to find clients wasn't an issue because once people see me, they told their people,
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their people told their people. And before you know it, I had a full caseload.
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Now, my husband said to me, he's a man of few words. He
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said, well, if you're going to really do this
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entrepreneur thing, you got to pick one or the other. And
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so within a month, I thought I was going to keep my little salary job and my practice.
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No, within a month, I was like, yo, he's right. I quit
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my full-time job. And at
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the time, I had been working
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at the ER per diem on the weekends. So I
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still had the per diem job, and I quit
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my full-time job. So I'm doing my private practice.
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I'm doing fine. I got the per diem job at the
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hospital. Now I'm at the hospital, I'm working with
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people and I'm seeing people that look like me and
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I'm seeing the systemic racism that's taking place within
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the hospital systems because of how my white counterparts would
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talk about cases that involve like black kids or
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black people. There was no patience. There was no grace. I
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seen the way my black people that look like me would
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share stuff with me that they wouldn't share with my white counterparts. And
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I'll never forget. I always talk about this on the podcast in different ways, but
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there was a guy and I remember he had came in with
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symptoms of, um, he, his chest was hurting and
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you know, they ruled him out medically. So when they rule people out medically, then they
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will call me in for the psych piece. And so I was
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meeting with him and I come to learn that he had been sober for about a
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month and had been using for about 15 years. And
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what I've concluded from his story is that he probably
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started using because he was having symptoms of anxiety. And
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I was sharing with him as I was hearing his story and talking about
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how things worked. And I remember thinking
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like his face lighting up like, oh, like he was
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like, oh, shoot. OK, that makes sense, right? Because you only know
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what you know. If you don't know it, it's going to freak you out.
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So now I left that room and I said to
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myself, dang, I got to start telling the people, right? So
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then I started going on YouTube, doing little videos here and
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there. And then there was a platform called Periscope where
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you can live stream. Um, it's no longer there, but people that,
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um, there's been people that's been following me since my YouTube and Periscope days. Also
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in the meantime, I would put quotes up on social media, right?
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I never really wanted to show my face. In fact, I
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hired a coach to help me with Brent, like the
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practice and stuff. And I remember he looked at my website. He was like, where's your
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picture? And I was like, I don't need my picture. It's not about me. I'm
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just doing the work. He said, well, how are people going to know who they're going to work with? So I reluctantly
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put up my picture. But in the meantime, I'm putting up these
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quotes on social media. I would find quotes that spoke to me because I was
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a big quote person. And then I would write something underneath of
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it. And that was kind of like my little social media thing. And
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because I was so passionate about helping people, that's why
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I was like, I'm going to get on YouTube. And then after that, I'm like, OK, there's
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this thing where you can live stream. Because at the time, I don't think YouTube had a live streaming
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component. So I'm on Periscope. And I
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said, I'm going to create a schedule. So I created a schedule Monday through Friday. I
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would come on 12 PM Eastern Standard Time, talk about a subject. Fridays,
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I would let people ask the questions. And over time,
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the community grew where people was looking forward to
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it. I've even had gotten clients out of it. I've had a lot of testimonials
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on how people was able to learn some things, right?
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So I'm on Periscope, I'm doing this. And during that
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time, someone has shared my
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live stream where I talked about depression. with an actor
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named Romney Malco. And he at the time was studying for
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a role called A Million Little Things, where he was going
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to play a depressed person. And so through
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that interaction of him sharing, of him
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seeing my stuff, we kind of
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connected, right? And so I started watching
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his stuff, because at the time, he would go live a lot on Periscope. And
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one of the things he preached about was creating your own, right? We
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met I met him a few times. I remember the last time I met him in new
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york and it was me and my husband and um,
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oh, let me back up a little bit because now i'm doing these
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live streams on periscope and then uh people
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would learn about different ways to work on themselves,
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right? Because therapy is not always accessible to everybody. It
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may not work for everybody, right? So I'm teaching people all these other cool
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ways of healing. One of them is journaling. And
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people would be like, what's journaling? How do I start? And I'm like, you just start. Because
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when I was younger, I would always write. At the
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time, I wasn't like, oh, I'm writing because it's therapeutic. I knew when I
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write, I felt better, right? I
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was doing these quotes on social media, right? And
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then I was listening to this lady, her name happened to be Celeste. She was
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saying how she wanted to write a book and her friend told her, Oh,
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you should journal. So she journaled for 40 days and she sent her friend the
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journal. And the friend was like, Oh my gosh, this
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is the book, right? I heard that now
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he's talking about creating your own and stuff like that. Um,
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Romney Mackle was, I am talking
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about journaling. And then I had probably
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about 370 posts at the time. And
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I don't remember exactly what clicked, but I
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was like, oh my gosh, I got to create a journal where
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I would ask people questions. So under the quotes I would post,
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I would write a statement or a question based off of that post. And
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then what I did was I took 365 of those
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statements and I've made them into the book. And that's where
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I have the book, 365 Days of Intentional Living.
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It is a book with a different question or a quote that
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is supposed to help you really think about things I
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think about people that really struggle with getting things out
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and where to start. And so that journal was
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created in 2018, and it was extremely instrumental
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for people. No, I'm sorry, in 2017, that
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journal was created. So boom, I
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remember I met Romney Malko in Florida. I gave him the journal
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and then he checked it out and he loved it. And
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then me and my husband, we met him in New York. I had recorded
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something with him. And then I
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remember he said to me, he said, Celeste, it's bigger
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than the book. And I just didn't get it at the time,
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right? So on Periscope, they
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started creating this thing where you can get paid with these, it's
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called stars. And as long as you had a
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good account, I felt like I had a good account. I'm talking about mental health.
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One time I was live streaming while I was getting a
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tattoo and somebody like reported my page. It
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was my arm, it wasn't nothing crazy. That was
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like a while ago, right? Also, I just want
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to say when I started going on Periscope, my name was the
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practice. It was the Uniting Center. And people will always say,
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like, what's the Uniting Center? And I'm like, oh, I'm Celeste. I'm a therapist. So
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then I changed my name to Celeste the Therapist. Celesta
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Therapist was not something I was like, oh, I'm going to brand myself. No, I
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did it because people didn't know who I was. And so it became catchy.
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It was a thing. I was like, OK, I'm going to name myself Celesta Therapist. So
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then Romney was like, oh, it's bigger than the book or
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whatever. So I didn't understand that. When I applied to
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get these stars on Periscope, they denied me. They
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said they denied me because at one point my account got flagged and
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I couldn't go and appeal it. Now
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I remember when he said something about creating your own. So
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then I'm like, all right, I'm going to create my own platform. And this was in
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2018, so probably about March. I remember I told Romney,
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I was like, yeah, I got the computer or whatever. He was like, hold on
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for a second. You need to read this book. So he told me about this book called
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Profitable Podcasting. He was like, don't just jump into it. Read
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it. And so I'm a very slow learner. I read that book twice. I took notes. I
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still got the notebook, right, where I highlighted the
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things that they say, blah, blah, blah. And it was like, you got
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to pick a date two months from now. So, um,
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so it must've been may 2nd, cause I launched on July 2nd. So may
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2nd, right. I saw, I start advertising for
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this podcast. That's going to drop July 2nd, 2018. I'm mad
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nervous. I'm like so nervous, but I'm somebody I'm
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going to keep stepping out of my comfort zone. So. What
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I did was I got everything together. And then
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July 2nd, 2018, I launched this podcast, Celesta Therapist.
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And it was going well because I had already been building my
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brand and the following from being on Periscope and
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doing all these amazing quotes, right? And so
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I do the podcast, I start getting speaking engagements, and
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I'm still doing my practice. This is
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in 2018. 2019, I talk about relationships a
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lot, right? I love talking about relationships because They
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feel so complicated because a lot of what's going on
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is that we're responding from all of these feelings. And I
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made so much growth in my relationship just
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through my own self-awareness. And I have a really healthy relationship.
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And I just want to tell people about, because I always see relationship goals,
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relationship goals. And I said to myself, people
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really don't know what relationship goals are because they look at a picture. They
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look at a kiss, they look at somebody giving somebody something, and they're like, oh
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my god, relationship goals. It's like, no, you don't know what's going on behind the scenes. So
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in 2019, I created a book called Relationship Goals.
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And it was basically, on Thursdays, I would talk about
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relationships on Periscope. And I just took the content from what I
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talked about and made it into a book. So now 2019, I
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dropped the book and then I still have this
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office. You remember earlier, the plan I had about the United center
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that kind of vanished a little bit because now I'm
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speaking, I'm doing podcasting. Now I have
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this office and paying $1,200 a month for, and then in
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the middle of 2019, probably like June or July, I
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was like, I don't really need this office. I can start
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doing telehealth back then. Telehealth wasn't a thing. But
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I started to prepare my clients and let them know that I'm going to
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start seeing people on video on zoom. Right.
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And, uh, and December of 2019, I,
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uh, decided I was going to close the
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office. And then January of 2020. I
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started to see my clients online
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full time. Some people didn't want to come, which I understood because it
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was weird. Right now, it doesn't seem as weird to me on
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camera, but I respected it. I got it. And
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obviously, as we know, March 2020, the
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pandemic hit. And so I'm on
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there. Prior to the pandemic hitting and I'm home January, February,
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I'm like, oh, I have more time now. I'm not traveling into work. I
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want to do some supervision stuff because I enjoy teaching.
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I love working with clinicians. I feel like we're so dope, but
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I feel like we sometimes do too much and we're not taking care
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of ourselves. And I really want to teach people how to do the work and do
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the work on themselves. So I
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went to an interview in February, no, it was in March. And I remember,
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because I remember I was going to sign and then she wiped the pen, right? Because
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during that time, we didn't really know what was going on. We were just wiping things down. And
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then maybe two days later, everything shut down. So I was like, yeah, I'm not
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going into nobody's office, right? So now I'm home. I'm
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seeing clients. Everything's fine. In
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2023, I'm like, all right, I'm seeing clients and I have
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the capacity to supervise. I want to supervise again. So
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started working at this agency and I have a whole podcast on this. I'll
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link it about the systemic racism that took place there. I'm not going to
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go into it, but I started working part time, not because I
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was like, oh my gosh, I need to make more money. But it was like, oh my gosh,
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I really want to do this. And I just felt like it's
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easier to go work for somebody else. The infrastructure is already there. So
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I'm seeing interns on my own.
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So my supervisor at the time, she left. And she
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left about two months into me being there. So we didn't get a chance
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to work on curriculum for the interns. And so I developed
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it on my own. And it went really well. I really enjoyed the
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passion. I enjoyed teaching them, both of them. They did
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not come from any background of working with people.
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So I was literally, it was all brand new. And
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I remember the CEO, it was so bad where
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like, I wanted to leave. And at the time, I
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just, I literally wanted to walk out, but I had clients there and I had these interns and
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I didn't want to leave them. So I told myself I would try to stay
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at least until May when they left just to get them through
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this, this school year. Then a new supervisor came
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in and she was very intimidated by
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me for no reason. I told her when she came, I
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don't want this job. I have my own practice. I'm literally here
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because I enjoy teaching clinicians. And
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she made my life hard and basically wanted me out. And
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prior to her wanting me out, I actually
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gave my notice. So I gave my notice. I told the interns, I
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was like, yeah, I'm going to leave at the end of January. This is in December. I
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told them I was going to give my notice and I was going to
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leave in January, but I would get them through the holidays. And I wanted to get the clients
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that had through the holidays and, um, December
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20th, the day after Christmas, I was working three days a
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week. I remember it was Tuesday. I came in and mind you, at that
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point, I already gave him my notice. I have about four weeks left. Right. I
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already gave my notice. They know I'm leaving. But I think they
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didn't want me to leave on my terms, which
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was fine, because they paid me out. December 26, I
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came in, and the human resource lady was in there, and
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then my supervisor. And she
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was like, oh, she said you're not doing this. And I showed her the stuff.
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And the human resource lady was just looking like, I
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don't get it either. And I said to them, so this was Tuesday
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morning. I was working there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
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So I said, all right, it's clear. Cause they had a check. They're paying me
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out to January 31st. So, you know what I'm saying? Your girl's not
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losing. I'm about to get payday. But
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me and understanding mental health, I said, if I
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leave here without saying bye, without closing out, I said, it's really not
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fair to the clients. I said, you guys, I
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get it. You don't want me here. I said, I'll leave, but
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if I can please just finish out today and tomorrow so I
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can try to wrap things up. The human resource lady
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was like, I'm cool with it if you are. And the supervisor, I
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know she was heated because she was like, all right, you
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can stay. So if I did something egregious
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that was that bad, who gets fired? And then they
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say like, okay, you can stay for the next two days. It
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was clearly their ego. They were pissed off that I decided to leave,
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right? Which was fine, you know? And
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even prior to me leaving, when I decided I was, I
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mean, prior to them firing me, when I decided
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that I was gonna leave, I remember something happened in
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the meeting with the CEO and I was just like, God, why am I here? This
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is wild. What's happening? And I felt in my spirit where
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it was like, I want you to create your own. And then I
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remembered my thoughts about the practice and how
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I really wanted to create a wellness space, right? I
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actually applied for this grant in Boston. I didn't get it. And
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so I didn't get it. So I'm like, all right, I'm going to
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just start stuff online. And I
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visited this lady who had a private practice. And I
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was like, oh, wow, this is nice. I think I can try
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to make this work in person. And so from
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December and on, I started doing
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research, listening to books, writing out
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a plan, and then I found the space that I have, and
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I created the Wellness Center. And as I, oh
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my gosh, like, As
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I, I can't believe like this is making me feel emotional right
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now. I think because I'm going through the whole story. And
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as I'm creating this space, I'm
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so, so nervous. I'm so anxious, right?
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Because I've never done anything like this before. And
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I kept reframing stuff in my head. I kept telling myself, I
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kept telling myself, like, this is for the people. I
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kept telling myself that this is why I
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didn't want to do this live because this is not live because
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I'm like, oh my gosh. I
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kept telling myself, this is for the people. This is not about me. I
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kept thinking about all the Black people that are in these spaces
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and there's so much microaggression and there's so
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much systemic racism that goes on.
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And people think that they are dealing
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with all of this imposter syndrome when it's really the environment that
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they're in. And so, you
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know, the way that I was treated and
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for no reason, because I had knowledge and
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because, you know, I'm Black, it was wild.
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And I'm sure years ago when I was working in
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spaces it was happening, but I wasn't aware back then. And
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then remember, I had been out of a workspace from
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2019 up until 2023. I'm hearing these stories as I'm talking to
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people, but now I'm back in
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this space in 2023 and I'm feeling it heavy. And
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every time I think about it, I'm like, I know like, it was like,
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yo, so like me going into that space needed to
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happen in order for me to like really start to put
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this into action. So now
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we have the Wellness Center and my first podcast
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ever, episode one that I released, I
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was listening to it and it said, my name is Celeste and I just want
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to help you shift the way you think, right? Shifting the way you think is
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something I've been saying and doing for so long and it's not something
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that I It's not something that I
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said, oh, let me try to figure out a name. It
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was just something where I realized we need to shift. People
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are feeling stuck. And I always say, I
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didn't choose this work. God chose it for me. When I was at the shelter
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at 19 years old, when I started working there, I went there because
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I needed money. I didn't go there because I'm like, oh, I want to help people that are struggling
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with homelessness. And then from there, I realized like,
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oh my gosh, I'm really good at talking to people. It just comes so natural for
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me. And so, you know, from
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there things continue to build, but it was
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important for me to share that because, you know, people
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look at the outcome, they look at where it is now. And
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I just wanted people to know that like, it was so much that
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went on to get to this point. The first thought
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about this space was in 2015, and nine years later it's
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happening. And it was because I kept putting one
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foot in front of the other, and I did it scared, out
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of my comfort zone, like this is something I've never done, and
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I have so much hope for the future. And
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when I said I kept reframing my mindset, It
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was because the more I started to look at the
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possibilities, the more I started to look at what it could
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be, then what happens is my mind starts
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to show it to me. So then that anxiousness just turns into
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so much excitement, right? And because I work
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with people, I understand how people allow the negativity
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of their thoughts to get in the way. And I want to challenge you to like
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work on reframing it. If you can work on reframing your
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thoughts, your mind will start to show you the possibilities. If
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you can put one foot in front of the other, your mind will
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start to show you the possibilities. It wasn't social media,
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being on social media, like vegging out all day that
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got me here. It was me being intentional about the things that
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I wanted to do and being diligent about
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it, right? Being consistent about it. So
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whatever it is that you want to do in
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life, I want to encourage you to work on it.
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There was a lot of hiccups. That's just part of my story that
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I shared, but there was a lot of hiccups. And so I
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seen it, I acknowledged it, I grieved it,
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and I went back to the drawing board. All right, Celeste, what's next? So
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I need you to tell yourself that. I want you to hear my story. And
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what I want you to take from my story is that it's possible as
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long as you're still breathing. I always say there's room for change, but
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you got to start to write down your vision. You got to make it plain. You got to do
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your research, whatever it is you want to do. Okay,
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that's it. So happy birthday to me. I hope
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this story was helpful. I really did. I really do. Um,
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I hope you enjoyed it and until next time,
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beautiful people. Um, I will talk to you later. So
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don't forget also we have programming now, if you
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go to S T W Y T and that stands for shifting the
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way you think as T shifting the way
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you think. S-t-w-y-t, yes, dot com.
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And you can find me on social media at that same
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name. But if you go there, you can find the different events that we're having,
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really cool stuff that are going to be going on. And
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I'm really excited. And if you do want to donate, so my goal
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is to make the cost low, right? And
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I wrote, if you can't afford it and you wanna come, email
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us and we will make it happen. I don't want finances to
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be a barrier to people getting stuff that they need. And
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so I'm stepping out on faith, right? I'm putting that donate,
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hook a sister up if you can, wanna donate a class, right?
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I'm trying to make the classes like between 20 and $25. so
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that I can pay the people that are gonna be running the class, cause I can't do
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everything. You know, I got four kids, but
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thank you all so much. I really appreciate the
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love, the support and until next time, I