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Dr. Gil Lederman, host of Radiosurgery New York at midnight and on weekends interview · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Truly a man.
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  Speaker 2: It needs no introduction. Probably the most famous doctor in
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  Speaker 2: New York, doctor Gil Liederman, host of Radio Surgery New
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  Speaker 2: York at midnight and on the weekends. And we're very proud.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for agreeing to appear on the show,
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  Speaker 2: because it's an important time. Doctor. We've seen celebrities like
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  Speaker 2: William Shatner, William Shatner's daughter Carly Simon, in the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks speak publicly about their cancer journeys. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess the question is when someone hears the word
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  Speaker 2: you have cancer, which everyone dreads, what's the first thing
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  Speaker 2: they should do and what mistakes should they avoid in
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  Speaker 2: those first few days.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Larry, thanks for having me, and
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  Speaker 3: I know we had dinner together recently, so I appreciate
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  Speaker 3: that and your friendship and having me on the show.
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  Speaker 3: So I want to thank you first of all. So
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  Speaker 3: that's a big question, a very important question, and one
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  Speaker 3: of the most important issues in my view is who
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  Speaker 3: the patient sees first. So let's talk about Carly Simon,
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  Speaker 3: who was an article about her and apparently she had
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  Speaker 3: a skin cancer on her face and she had surgery
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  Speaker 3: on her face, and she's regretting apparently the surgery, not
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  Speaker 3: even talking about the options. So the problem with a
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  Speaker 3: lot of cancers are that the biopsy is often done
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  Speaker 3: by a surgeon. So, for example, well Shatner also had
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  Speaker 3: a melanoma, which is a skin cancer. She had a
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  Speaker 3: skin cancer, so usually the biopsy's done by a dermatologist.
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  Speaker 3: A dermatologist is a surgeon who operates on the skin.
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  Speaker 3: So for Carly, she's most likely I don't know her
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  Speaker 3: case other than what I read in the periodical that
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  Speaker 3: she had a biopsy and she had surgery and now
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  Speaker 3: she regrets the surgery because she's been deformed. I've treated
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  Speaker 3: thousands of skin cancers over years, and I've seen so many,
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  Speaker 3: and I have a family member who's a dermatologist. I
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  Speaker 3: know the field pretty well. And the problem is that
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  Speaker 3: when you go to a surgeon for your original biopsy,
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  Speaker 3: the patient kind of bonds with the first doctor, and
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  Speaker 3: the patient says, after the biopsy, oh my god, I
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  Speaker 3: have cancer? What should I do? And the first voice
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  Speaker 3: they often hear is the surgeon, and the surgeon, sad
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  Speaker 3: to say, in our system, in our medical system has
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  Speaker 3: a predilection to recommend their own services, which means surgery,
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  Speaker 3: so we see that all the time. In skin cancer,
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  Speaker 3: there's two million skin three million skin cancers a year,
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  Speaker 3: and the vast majority have a surgery called MOS, which
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  Speaker 3: is like an excavation, and it's often very deform me
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  Speaker 3: because skin cancers are often around the ears, the eyes,
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  Speaker 3: the nose, the mouth. These are very visible places. And
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  Speaker 3: in my experience, I've treated thousands, I've actually treated forty
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  Speaker 3: thousand patients. The patient almost never is told about all
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  Speaker 3: the options, including non invasive options. So there are non
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  Speaker 3: invasive options, and we treat many patients here non invasively
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  Speaker 3: with no cutting and no bleeding, whether it's pancreas cancers
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  Speaker 3: or prostate cancers or skin cancers like she had. So
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  Speaker 3: when I grew up, when I went to medical school,
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  Speaker 3: it was our education that the doctor was obliged to
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  Speaker 3: tell people all the options. And if a patient comes
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  Speaker 3: here to Radio Sarcher in New York, you'll see signs
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  Speaker 3: on the wall about all the options chemo and radiation
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  Speaker 3: and different forms of radiation and surgery and even no treatment.
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  Speaker 3: Some people shouldn't have any treatment, especially if they don't
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  Speaker 3: want it. So I would imagine she was not listening
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  Speaker 3: to doctor Liederman's show on WR and all the times
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned, because if she was listening to doctor Liederman,
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  Speaker 3: she would have heard almost every show we talk about
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  Speaker 3: skin cancer and other cancers where you can have an
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  Speaker 3: alternative to invasive deforming surgery. So had she been listening
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  Speaker 3: to WR and Plug for your Beautiful Station, she would
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  Speaker 3: have known that there was an option, even if her
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  Speaker 3: doctor didn't tell her. And I imagine her doctor did
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  Speaker 3: not tell her because her doctor maybe wanted a celebrity
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  Speaker 3: case whatever. I don't know, but we see so many
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  Speaker 3: skin cancers and almost all of them are sent by themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Their doctors almost never send the patient, and you usually
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  Speaker 3: believe it or not. The doctor then calls back afterwards
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  Speaker 3: and they're so upset, and they're upset for two reasons. One,
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  Speaker 3: it's most commonly a beautiful result because our treatment is beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: We're beaming in specifically with an area. It's the actually
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  Speaker 3: unique program here that we've developed to treat the skin
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  Speaker 3: cancer wherever it is, most of by the ear, the eyes,
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  Speaker 3: and nose, the throat, but some are on the hands
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  Speaker 3: and the feet and the trunk, and the results are
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  Speaker 3: overwhelmingly successful, more successful than most without the scarring deformity,
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  Speaker 3: surgery and anesthesia, hours of surgery which most entails and
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  Speaker 3: often most because they excavate a hole in the body
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  Speaker 3: and they have to get a plug from somewhere else
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  Speaker 3: or try to stretch the skin together, and it's very deforming.
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  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what she's talking about, being deformed after
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  Speaker 3: skin cancer.
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  Speaker 1: Now, doctor Gelidim in the courtesy and I've been at
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  Speaker 1: your facility many many times, myself, my wife Nancy. Previously
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  Speaker 1: you were giving advice and urging treatment for my mother
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  Speaker 1: and father for many many years. You did an outstanding job.
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  Speaker 1: But when I recommend that people go to you, and
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  Speaker 1: I say, well, he's like a pioneer in radiosurgery. This
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  Speaker 1: is primarily what he uses. Can you be specific to
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  Speaker 1: our many listeners? How is that different from everything else
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  Speaker 1: they're getting bombarded with nowadays? You know the Lasier knife surgery,
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  Speaker 1: this surgery, that surgery. Some are holistic, homeopathic. What is
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  Speaker 1: the specificity of radio surgery?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So radiosurgery is revolutionary prior to my bringing radio
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  Speaker 3: surgery to America, and I'm the first doctor to do
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  Speaker 3: body radio serting in America into the Western hemisphere and
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  Speaker 3: of course New York, large areas of the body would
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  Speaker 3: be radiated. My boss at Harvard used to call it
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  Speaker 3: postage stamp radiation. To radiate let's say a mass in
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  Speaker 3: the lung, I remember, vividly called postage stampardiation. But the
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  Speaker 3: area of the radiation was like ten by ten by
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  Speaker 3: twenty centimeters, which is two thousand cubic centimeters of one's
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  Speaker 3: body to treat a nodule, maybe the size of a
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  Speaker 3: p and that's what they would call postage stamp radiation
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  Speaker 3: or trying to minimize the field. But in fact, if
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  Speaker 3: you think about it, if we treat a tumor that's
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  Speaker 3: one or two or three or five cubic centimeters, it's
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  Speaker 3: a very small area that's radiated. And that's what's revolutionary
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  Speaker 3: about radio surgery. Number one. Radio surgery also confuses people.
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  Speaker 1: The name.
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  Speaker 3: It's a misnomer. It was named by a Swedish doctor
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  Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty three and he wanted to say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: radiation could kill tumors and kill structures like surgery. So
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  Speaker 3: he tried to put the name together, radio radiation and
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  Speaker 3: surgery together to make it sound like it was a
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  Speaker 3: powerful surgery. But it's not. And so a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people are confused by that. They're confused by the name.
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  Speaker 3: Radiosurgery is non invasive treatment. And then the other point
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  Speaker 3: that you're alluding to is, hey, people hear about doctor
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  Speaker 3: Liederman talking about radio surgery. So one of my friends
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  Speaker 3: developed a system. He was so jealous of our work
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  Speaker 3: he wanted to have another system. He tried to make
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  Speaker 3: it as good as ours, but it couldn't be the
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  Speaker 3: same as ours because he wanted to sell the system.
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  Speaker 3: He wanted to be a producer and a salesman, not
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  Speaker 3: a doctor, and so he created a system that tried
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  Speaker 3: to mimic ours. It could not, but it has a
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  Speaker 3: name and a lot of in banks. It actually went
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  Speaker 3: bankrupt twice, and then banks spoted and banks put a
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  Speaker 3: lot of money in and they advertised it. So there's
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  Speaker 3: a name to it, but people confuse the name and
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  Speaker 3: the marketing with actual treatment, so it is very confusing.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, and there's very similar names that are not
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  Speaker 3: the same product.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor Liederman, thank you so much. I think your
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  Speaker 2: whole career you have given people a lot of hope
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  Speaker 2: and that cancer is not necessarily a death sentence. And
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  Speaker 2: we just talked about William Shatner. He had Stage four
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't a death sentence for him. But you're
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  Speaker 2: absolutely right. Going to the right doctor like you makes
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  Speaker 2: all the difference in the world. Thank you, sir for
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  Speaker 2: joining us today. Doctor gil Leederman, host of a radio
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  Speaker 2: Surgery New York at midnight and on the weekends. Doctor Liederman,
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  Speaker 2: don't be a stranger.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, God bless you. Thanks thank you, Larry,
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  Speaker 3: thank you, Curtis