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Episode 273: Reunion (SG-A 4.03) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Speaker 1: Get Into Gate episode two hundred and seventy three talking
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Speaker 1: some Stargate Atlantis Mitch and Maddie.
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Speaker 2: Here, what was up?
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Speaker 1: God, that's that's perfect. Okay, that's so good. Hey, look
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Speaker 1: a little bit inside. I am get in the streets.
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Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, you're you're a seasoned professional
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Speaker 1: and veteran of the industry that is podcasting and radio
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Speaker 1: and all radio. Look a little bit of BTS. No,
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Speaker 1: not the pop band, but CA pop bands, cap pop band.
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Speaker 1: I'm so so. I just didn't want to say the
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Speaker 1: wrong Asian country.
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Speaker 2: And Korean in ratio right here, I'm get.
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Speaker 1: In trouble already at thirty five seconds in, I should
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Speaker 1: I should just cancel myself and go back and unrecord this.
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Speaker 2: You hear the Swifties hated me?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, that's like, Yeah, that's a that's a
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Speaker 1: dangerous territory to get into. I in my actual job.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm now paneling and angry what I do for
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Speaker 1: the podcast? I guess I'm now doing that for an
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Speaker 1: actual radio your official Clag official, I am official. Holy shit.
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Speaker 1: If only they knew the context of that, I would
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Speaker 1: be able to call myself official Clag that's amazing. See,
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Speaker 1: let's get on with it. Season bloody four an episode
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Speaker 1: number three of Stargates Atlantis. We are talking about reunion
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Speaker 1: first and foremost. Let's get into a little bit of
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Speaker 1: the Yeld synopsis from the physical media. If it's not
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Speaker 1: coming back yet, it will come back eventually.
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Speaker 2: Guys.
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Speaker 1: I think we're all starting to see those little struggles.
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Speaker 1: A few movies I went to watch recently, Maddie, It's like,
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Speaker 1: where are they screening?
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Speaker 2: Oh, nowhere, nowhere, nowhere.
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Speaker 1: You going to buy them in physical It doesn't exist anymore,
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Speaker 1: you're peanut.
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Speaker 2: They're in that cupbody in my living room though, next
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Speaker 2: to my TV.
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Speaker 1: Yep, not for me, some of them. They're one I
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Speaker 1: gave up, thinking I'll never need that again. Reunion. As
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Speaker 1: Atlantis's new leader, Sam must execute new security protocols that
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Speaker 1: leave Ronan feeling alienated and considering leaving Atlantis for good.
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Speaker 2: Weir never would have doubted me.
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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, straight up with it. I know Brendan loves Ronan.
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Speaker 1: I wonder what he thought about that line. It's like,
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Speaker 1: that's not we haven't even let the body go cold
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Speaker 1: figuratively speaking, and we're already sort of talking to her
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Speaker 1: about like, well, my ex girlfriend would never have done that,
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Speaker 1: or my ex girlfriend would have done that, so well
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Speaker 1: I'm not your ex girlfriend, and deal with that.
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Speaker 2: Great guy love match. Okay, what do you think?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, it's that time of the podcast again.
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Speaker 1: I actually thought about this ahead of time for once.
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Speaker 1: I mean we've only been doing it a couple of weeks,
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Speaker 1: but I very quickly remembered that, Yeah, it was the
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Speaker 1: Ronan episode. I think somehow between last week and this week,
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Speaker 1: I had forgotten to expect that. So I think even
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Speaker 1: though knowing it was going to be a ron An episode,
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Speaker 1: there was like, you know, two scenes that involved him,
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Speaker 1: which you know, he's involved in a lot of scenes.
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Speaker 1: He just never gets to do anything. And there were
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Speaker 1: two scenes that involved in the cut between you know,
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Speaker 1: where he was and back to the base or whatever,
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Speaker 1: and he was doing things, he was saying things, he
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Speaker 1: was making decisions, he was having some action moments, and
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, finally he's getting something. That's right,
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Speaker 1: it's his episode. Okay, great, I mean, you know some
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Speaker 1: moments that we'll talk about for sure that you know.
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Speaker 1: He very quickly it was like his cool friend showed
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Speaker 1: back up and He's just like, oh god, you guys,
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Speaker 1: well I never really liked you like that much anyway,
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Speaker 1: Like you're cool, but you're not that cool sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, chill. I know we've only got forty
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Speaker 1: two minutes of screen time to play with, but still,
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Speaker 1: it felt like there was a little bit of animosity
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Speaker 1: shown there that came about too quickly because it had
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Speaker 1: to because we needed to give it enough time to resolute.
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Speaker 1: Buddy end. That's fine. One thing, okay, yep, Sam's in,
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Speaker 1: She's great. One thing I really enjoy was seeing Sam
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Speaker 1: Carter in an action like she's going on the mission.
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Speaker 1: She's thrown in the stun grin when they first bust
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Speaker 1: into the race, and yeah, weir might have given him
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Speaker 1: permission to bring his friends on board, we ain't doing that.
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Speaker 1: She get an actual and I know that's not her
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Speaker 1: job and it probably shouldn't be Carter's job anyway.
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Speaker 2: Well, if they've given her the fever stuff, like I
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Speaker 2: said a few weeks ago, she could have been that person.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, yeah Carter needs to do it
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Speaker 1: because we couldn't or anything like that. If anything, I'm like, no, no,
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Speaker 1: she should be a bit of a protected species at
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Speaker 1: this point, but I like the idea that Carter is
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Speaker 1: either a character or Carter is a person within this show.
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Speaker 1: Didn't face the situation she's like, well, I've got a
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Speaker 1: different job now, I don't do that. It's like, no,
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Speaker 1: I can do this, and I am going to do that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's almost like it plays in well to her
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Speaker 2: arc because it's like, well, yeah, this is her first
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Speaker 2: command like this, So it's like, I feel like Carter
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Speaker 2: would still be learning on when when to join a
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Speaker 2: mission like that and when to be the Hammond or
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Speaker 2: the Weir and you're like, no, no, you guys, go
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Speaker 2: and do that and not sit back. But it's like
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Speaker 2: she's got so much experience and she's not like a
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Speaker 2: Hammond where he's you know, he was a little past
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Speaker 2: his prime. You know, he's probably not finding a flak
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Speaker 2: jacket that fits. So yeah, it's good that she can
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Speaker 2: sort of jump in and do her stargate Barbie stuff
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Speaker 2: when she needs to.
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Speaker 1: And it's something I should have remembered as well, because
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Speaker 1: I've never seen Atlantis before and I'm certainly so far
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Speaker 1: past that everything is new to me from here on out,
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Speaker 1: except for continuum. And that's where my problem is because
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Speaker 1: I'm watching this thinking that I've seen all of SG
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Speaker 1: one or the initial series, depending on what you look
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Speaker 1: at it. If Ark of Truth is not SG one, whatever,
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Speaker 1: it's adjacent, I'm feeling I've seen all these characters. So
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Speaker 1: the idea that Carter is here, it feels like, oh,
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Speaker 1: she came Amanda Tapping came back, as opposed to well,
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Speaker 1: she's still out there doing a movie and she's just
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Speaker 1: signed on to continue with this.
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Speaker 2: But you think that you know Carter's whole story, you've missed,
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Speaker 2: like you know this whole other part of her back story.
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Speaker 1: But the fact that if we're going to watch it
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Speaker 1: in chronological order as we are, and that's why we're
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Speaker 1: not going to talk about Continuum for some time, that
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Speaker 1: I have already seen that. And yeah, I, as someone
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Speaker 1: who only watched those characters in that show and it's
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Speaker 1: a decent movies, would have think, okay, it went from
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Speaker 1: season ten into Arc of Truth into Continuum and that
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Speaker 1: sort of things that I know all about. So the
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Speaker 1: fact okay, she's here, great, Sorry of the last two weeks,
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Speaker 1: that's fine. When frigging Christopher Judge and I was watching it,
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Speaker 1: and I was turning away for a second whatever I
6:16
Speaker 1: was doing. But I did manage to see Christopher Judge
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Speaker 1: in the credits, and I'm so pissed that I did,
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Speaker 1: because that would have been such a kick ass surprise
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Speaker 1: for me. But the fact that he just walks in
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Speaker 1: and even just seeing the setting of like her quarters
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Speaker 1: or whatever room she was clearly not her quarters that
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Speaker 1: were supercomputers behind her, but her packing up stuff in
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Speaker 1: her lab, and I'm thinking, holy shit, they've actually completely
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Speaker 1: like redressed and rebuilt this set. And I'm like, it's
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Speaker 1: probably just like slightly differently dressed as part of the
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Speaker 1: Atlantis thing, or hang on a second, continuums coming back,
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Speaker 1: like it might be a room that they come acrossing.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea, but that's kind of the point,
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Speaker 1: is that it felt special to see Christopher Judge. It
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Speaker 1: was like he hasn't worked for The Stargate as a
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Speaker 1: show for twelve months, maybe at this point two years
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Speaker 1: or something, but he came back for this little moment.
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Speaker 1: And that's not true. He's at the moment had they
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Speaker 1: would have just finished filming, or they might have filmed
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Speaker 1: this scene at the same time. By the time this
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Speaker 1: came out or when this was being shot. They might
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Speaker 1: have finished shooting the film, you know, weeks ago, months ago,
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Speaker 1: or whatever, so it just, I don't know, it felt special,
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Speaker 1: and then I had to remember the way that you know,
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Speaker 1: time works and the way that these things are shot
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Speaker 1: and were released. More importantly, because I felt like I
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Speaker 1: saw all the SG one and SG one adjacent stuff
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Speaker 1: and now I'm seeing this. This feels like it should
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Speaker 1: take place after just in my weird like watching Cannon,
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Speaker 1: not even in story Cannon. So it was just very
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Speaker 1: special for me to see, Yes, Carter, but we know
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Speaker 1: she's sticking around because she's on the friggin cover of
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Speaker 1: the DVD. But then Christopher judged to be there and
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Speaker 1: in a room that was very much part of the SGC.
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Speaker 2: It was very cool for me. Well, apparently this season
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Speaker 2: was very much filmed out of order, so there there
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Speaker 2: is a part of me that wonders if maybe, yeah,
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Speaker 2: like after Amanda and Chris had finished doing a scene,
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Speaker 2: if a continue or something of that, well, Chris still
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Speaker 2: had the people of pews in his hair and stuff
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Speaker 2: like that, they jumped in and filmed this scene. I'm
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Speaker 2: not too sure because even though this is the third
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Speaker 2: episode of the season. It was actually filmed seventh, oh wow,
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Speaker 2: which is and next week's episode Doppelganger was actually filmed
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Speaker 2: first in the season. So okay, credit to a man
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Speaker 2: a tapping and how weird that must have been for
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Speaker 2: her and obviously her skill at being able to keep
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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff separate, separate, yeah, being you know,
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Speaker 2: this is her episode where she's officially announced as you know,
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Speaker 2: the new person to run Atlantis, but it's actually like
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Speaker 2: the seventh episode she filmed, and then the first episode
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Speaker 2: she filmed was next week's episode. After all this stuffs,
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Speaker 2: so to keep it all chronologically in your head and
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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff is is pretty impressive.
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Speaker 1: I think a question without notice the you know what,
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Speaker 1: maybe you would The actor who played like, I guess
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Speaker 1: the leader of the Steed and Grin.
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Speaker 2: I can't remember his name, but I know he is.
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Speaker 2: He's in stuff, but his sort of nepotism claim to fame.
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Speaker 2: Really he is the nephew of the the high chairman
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Speaker 2: from Iron Chef, the the Japanese like iconic cooking show.
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Speaker 2: He's like the nephew of that guy. And then he
9:20
Speaker 2: ended up hosting Iron Chef American. He's American.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, then he's been his mother stuff as well, and
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Speaker 2: that that was my introduction to him.
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Speaker 1: He's always the villain. He's got those villain eyes. His
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Speaker 1: eyes are intense, and so when he pops up and
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Speaker 1: oh that, oh no, like just you know where it's
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Speaker 1: gonna go, kind.
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Speaker 2: Of like the guy back from Emancipation, you know, the
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Speaker 2: guy who was in Mortal Kombat as well. You know,
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Speaker 2: he always plays the bad guys, a bad.
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Speaker 1: Carry something I know him as saying from the Phantom
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Speaker 1: of course of course, yeah, but yeah, he does play
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Speaker 1: a great bad guy. He's just got that snarling face.
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Speaker 1: And so this guy pops up and he's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: he almost looks like untouched by age as Blake. He's
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Speaker 1: got such smooth face, but then his eyes are so
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Speaker 1: intense without him even needing to like growl and snarl
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Speaker 1: and look menacing, and it's just like, oh no, you're
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Speaker 1: something's going to happen with this guy.
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Speaker 2: So did you kind of get that? But like, as
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Speaker 2: soon as I saw him.
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Speaker 1: Not the twist that happened nothing to do with the rape.
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Speaker 1: I thought it might have just been like they were
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Speaker 1: willing to like you know, maybe maybe maybe the backstory
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Speaker 1: with the other two people that had died it was
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Speaker 1: definitely different from that, or they've hated Ronan for having
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Speaker 1: left them behind. There was that moment Ronan's I should
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Speaker 1: have done this. He's like, dude, don't be stupid. No,
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh no, I believe that. I actually
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Speaker 1: do believe that as the truth you could be a
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Speaker 1: great actor. Even as an actor. You might have been
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Speaker 1: told that that's what the truth was and that you
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Speaker 1: weren't going to betray him by the end or something.
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Speaker 1: But I knew something was going to happen. But I
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Speaker 1: thought maybe it would come down to them and the mission,
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Speaker 1: or Ronan and the SGA team, or just you know,
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Speaker 1: Rona would be in the middle between them, between them
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Speaker 1: sacrifice seeing you know, his friends from Atlantis, or putting
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Speaker 1: them at harm's way. I did not think that they
11:04
Speaker 1: were going to have teamed up with the with the
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Speaker 1: Wraith or be at their disposal sort of things that
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Speaker 1: surprised me. Yeah, no, that's good, And you know I
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Speaker 1: get that they you know that it was just you
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Speaker 1: know a bit of brainwashing and stuff. But I'm sitting
11:19
Speaker 1: there going we're getting a bit longer the two your
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Speaker 1: guys in the episode, and Ronan still thinking about, you know,
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Speaker 1: staying with them, and he's got no reason to think otherwise,
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Speaker 1: And so that moment, it wasn't it wasn't Shepherd or
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Speaker 1: McKay saying your friends are bad, and then he had
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Speaker 1: to deny it and then come to the realization himself.
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Speaker 1: He just walked in and they betrayed him when no
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Speaker 1: one else is around, so that probably made it worse
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Speaker 1: for him. And then once that Wraith left and then
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Speaker 1: just the oh man, the emotion on on Jason Momoa's face,
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Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Like you were you were
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Speaker 1: not even seteens anymore. What do you? What have you done?
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Speaker 1: How could you possibly these monsters? These people? And they're
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Speaker 1: just but no, we don't have a plant anymore. So
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Speaker 1: we're just going to get with the future. You know.
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I guess that you have lived a
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Speaker 1: life where that probably seems like a good idea to
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Speaker 1: you and him, he mays, the last time he saw
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Speaker 1: you in the middle of that war. And I know
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Speaker 1: he's lived his own life as a runner for all
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Speaker 1: this time, essentially all this time, but it's like he
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Speaker 1: just saw you yesterday and then all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: today You've had this complete change of heart. And I
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Speaker 1: thought Momoa played the absolute shit out of him. It
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Speaker 1: was really really good.
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Speaker 2: The fight at the end too, Like he really played
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Speaker 2: up like the emotional betrayal.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, as well.
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Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure that this
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Speaker 2: is the episode I've been referencing a bit where it
12:38
Speaker 2: was kind of at this point Momo was sick of
12:40
Speaker 2: his dreadlocks and they were hurting him right because they
12:42
Speaker 2: were so thick and heavy. So his actual sort of
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Speaker 2: proposal for this episode would have been as part of
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Speaker 2: Ronan going Dark. So oh yeah, he would have shaved
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Speaker 2: his head. Okay, hire Ups went no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we like your hair too much.
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Speaker 2: It could be this season, it could be next season.
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Speaker 2: I'm not too sure.
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Speaker 1: I was wondering that about his tattoo.
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Speaker 2: So obviously you would know from this point that tattoo
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Speaker 2: is real.
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Speaker 1: It's real, it's real. I'm like, Okay, did he has
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Speaker 1: he always had it and he's had to cover it up,
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Speaker 1: or did he get it in between seasons? That part right, Okay, good?
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Speaker 1: And they've had to like cover it up for a
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Speaker 1: couple of episodes, especially they filmed at seventh eleventh, so
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Speaker 1: they've had to cover it for six other episodes. Well no,
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Speaker 1: not even I guess if they filmed at seventh O. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they cover it for two of them. But wherever they
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Speaker 1: took place in filming.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next week. But next week's episode,
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Speaker 2: you see Ronan running around Atlantis just wearing like bandages
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Speaker 2: up his arm for no reason. Reason. It's to cover
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Speaker 2: that because they hadn't written this yet. Yeah right, so
13:38
Speaker 2: so yeah, so he just basically being who he is,
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Speaker 2: went and got it done in the off season, came
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Speaker 2: and went, hey, I've got this now, and they're like,
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Speaker 2: how do we write that in? Because it obviously comes
13:49
Speaker 2: up past where he would normally wear his gauntlets. Yeah,
13:51
Speaker 2: so yeah, they wrote in this in the scene where
13:53
Speaker 2: they're doing the cool little and it was very I
13:55
Speaker 2: think it was the old school like Polynesian style, the
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Speaker 2: way they were doing the tattooing. However, the slap that
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Speaker 2: was improvised by Jason.
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Speaker 1: In the moment that guy, you know what, in hindsight,
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Speaker 1: that guy looked like he didn't wasn't prepared. Yeah, not.
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Speaker 2: At all. He was not prepared for that at all.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about I mean, the you know, like that
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Speaker 1: way of doing tattoos. And then even at the end,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's not the first time we've seen
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Speaker 1: him roan and do something like this, but when he
14:19
Speaker 1: was about to get rushed at by all three of
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Speaker 1: his form allies and he does the you know, yeah,
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Speaker 1: like a bit of a war dance really really like
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Speaker 1: he had no time to do that they were rushing
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Speaker 1: at him. He's like, I've got to do this. This
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Speaker 1: is tradition. And I actually really dug that that he
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Speaker 1: sort of throwing that out there, knowing who he is
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Speaker 1: and what he loves to represent on the screen. But yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's cool because I'm looking at that going, hang, that
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Speaker 1: looks a lot like you're real tattoo. You have you
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Speaker 1: covered that up for two seasons or have you? Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: that makes sense.
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Speaker 2: No, that was just a whim thing that he did
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Speaker 2: during the during the off season. Another I guess maybe
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Speaker 2: whim thing that Rachel Lutchel did in the off season,
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Speaker 2: and this you see it in in this episode most blatantly,
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Speaker 2: And I guess this is a little bit of a
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Speaker 2: spoiler for you going forward in the season, but because
15:05
Speaker 2: of this episode was filmed seventh. If you look very closely,
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Speaker 2: Rachel Lutral's belly is kind of sticking out a little.
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Speaker 1: God shit, I didn't know that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they start shooting her from different angles and
15:19
Speaker 2: trying to give it. Like if you notice she was
15:21
Speaker 2: wearing a bit of a dominatrix outfit when her and
15:23
Speaker 2: Ronan showed up, like to that village, She's wearing like jacket,
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Speaker 2: so that kind of it's and it's kind of buttoned
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Speaker 2: up right below her bus just to try and sort
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Speaker 2: of hide the fact that she's got a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a baby bump up.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even pick that up on the in the
15:36
Speaker 1: sparring scene at the start where she was blind, you know,
15:38
Speaker 1: blinded and whacking the shit out of him. Like, there
15:41
Speaker 1: are enough full bodied moments that I guess it's probably
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Speaker 1: maybe some stunt work or when you're moving that quick,
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Speaker 1: you're hiding it a little bit more. But no, I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think about anything like that. Well yeah, huh, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll be on the look at for that from now.
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Speaker 1: I can't unsee it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like I feel like there was a
15:57
Speaker 2: lot of things thrown at this season in terms of
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Speaker 2: the fact that you've got Sam as the new character,
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Speaker 2: You've got Mama showing up with a tattoo, you've got
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Speaker 2: Rachel showing up with a belly, and they're like, oh,
16:07
Speaker 2: we're shooting things out of order. Great.
16:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, it always seems while to me when I mean,
16:10
Speaker 1: I get they have to do it because when when
16:13
Speaker 1: productions film in sequence and in chronological order, it's a
16:17
Speaker 1: real big thing that they talk about in their promotion
16:20
Speaker 1: of it and whatnot as a directing style. So it's
16:23
Speaker 1: still always blows my mind a little bit how you
16:26
Speaker 1: can do that on such as you know, Brendan and
16:28
Speaker 1: I used to make movies together in high school. But
16:30
Speaker 1: we're like going out of each other's houses and it
16:32
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we were basically writing scenes with what
16:35
Speaker 1: we had available. If we had a cool room, we
16:37
Speaker 1: would write a scene that took place in that room
16:38
Speaker 1: and just find a place to insert it in the movie.
16:40
Speaker 1: But absolutely, and we didn't have like a full narrative
16:45
Speaker 1: set with a full script and then just go, well,
16:47
Speaker 1: we can film all of this and that actor is
16:49
Speaker 1: going to have to emotionally resonate with something that they
16:52
Speaker 1: haven't actually experienced on set yet because that takes place
16:54
Speaker 1: earlier in the movie and we're gonna film that in
16:56
Speaker 1: three months. But to do like entire episodes, I guess
16:59
Speaker 1: in some levels it's easy because you get your case
17:01
Speaker 1: of the week or whatever. But yeah, I guess you
17:03
Speaker 1: continuity people have to really be switched on then. Yeah,
17:05
Speaker 1: and you know, I guess, well, it only depends on
17:07
Speaker 1: how many scripts you've got to available. But yeah, some
17:11
Speaker 1: people that be working a lot harder than what they
17:13
Speaker 1: need to to make that sort of shit work.
17:15
Speaker 2: I don't know how accurate it is, but one thing
17:18
Speaker 2: I did read is they said the reason this episode
17:20
Speaker 2: was pushed back is because they needed time to build
17:23
Speaker 2: the Wraith set. But it just seemed like the very generic,
17:25
Speaker 2: very similar looking right, Yeah, So I don't know if
17:27
Speaker 2: they'd scrap that, I guess because it's been, like we
17:29
Speaker 2: talked about a few episodes ago, it's been like over
17:31
Speaker 2: a year since we've kind of done anything with the Wraiths.
17:33
Speaker 2: If they kind of struck those sets and to make
17:37
Speaker 2: room for some other stuff they were doing, I don't
17:38
Speaker 2: know what it was, but yeah, all the trivia that
17:41
Speaker 2: I read for it says that yeah, well so that
17:43
Speaker 2: they so they had time to build that set is
17:45
Speaker 2: why it got pushed back. Yeah yeah, so yeah, which
17:48
Speaker 2: was weird. How did you feel I think this is
17:50
Speaker 2: the first time we've seen them, But how did you
17:52
Speaker 2: feel about the new uniforms? Is this? Did they did
17:55
Speaker 2: it jump out at you at all? Like?
17:56
Speaker 1: Not really? I feel like maybe a dual state, not
18:02
Speaker 1: because I'm staring at her googling at her, but I
18:04
Speaker 1: feel like maybe because I'm not used to seeing her
18:06
Speaker 1: and so she had like brighter elements yellow. Yeah, and
18:10
Speaker 1: I was that sort of stuck out a little bit,
18:12
Speaker 1: but I don't know that I really noticed it on
18:14
Speaker 1: anyone else to be here.
18:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carter's Carter's kind of got the red version. Maybe
18:18
Speaker 2: you'll see it more next week. I don't know, you'll
18:20
Speaker 2: seem sort of Amay's version. Weirdly, I don't think Shepherd
18:24
Speaker 2: ever wears that uniform. Pretty sure he just stays in
18:27
Speaker 2: just his normal black.
18:28
Speaker 1: I still don't think that guy owns a hair brush,
18:30
Speaker 1: so it would make sense that he doesn't wear the
18:32
Speaker 1: new clothes that he gets. I still look at an
18:35
Speaker 1: establishing shot at any moment, like to begin an episode,
18:38
Speaker 1: and his hair is just always scruffy, and I'm like,
18:40
Speaker 1: I get it, I like it. I just don't think
18:42
Speaker 1: you'd be allowed to get away with it.
18:44
Speaker 2: But the thing that always draws my eyes in the
18:46
Speaker 2: five seasons of this show, I don't think once we
18:49
Speaker 2: see him use that sweatband that he wears around his
18:51
Speaker 2: wrist to actually white sot off his brow at any
18:53
Speaker 2: single point, I'm like, what is.
18:55
Speaker 1: That for purposes? Yeah? I like that, you know. I
19:00
Speaker 1: mean McKay assuming that he was going to be named
19:02
Speaker 1: the leader that was so good, it was fantastic.
19:04
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if like Shepherd suddenly had Tomay, Yeah,
19:09
Speaker 2: well that would be really bad.
19:11
Speaker 1: So and you'll be begging for we exactly. And then
19:14
Speaker 1: when Carter really made a point and say, hey, look,
19:16
Speaker 1: just so you know you you were being talked about
19:18
Speaker 1: as well, and he's like, yeah, no, I've I've seen
19:22
Speaker 1: what happens to people, He's I'm not I'm not deal
19:23
Speaker 1: with that ship, you know, And I'm not. I believe
19:26
Speaker 1: that too. I didn't feel like there was any you know,
19:28
Speaker 1: he I think with Weir, he didn't need to have
19:31
Speaker 1: any more authority because he was the you know, the
19:34
Speaker 1: lead military guy on the base. Right, so he can
19:37
Speaker 1: talk to her on certain way, and even though she
19:39
Speaker 1: has the overall command, he can just nudge her a
19:43
Speaker 1: little way to get his own.
19:44
Speaker 2: Way if his opinion as well.
19:47
Speaker 1: Whereas Carter, I think, you know, she might be coming
19:49
Speaker 1: at it from a more command level and rank or something,
19:52
Speaker 1: but and certainly with the experience and and whatnot. But
19:57
Speaker 1: she's got that military experiences well, so she can she
20:00
Speaker 1: can go I'm coming at this speaking from a government
20:03
Speaker 1: sort of thing, and the and the Ioway and all
20:05
Speaker 1: that other sort of stuff. But it's like, I've also
20:07
Speaker 1: seen some shit. I've also led SG one, So what
20:10
Speaker 1: you're saying, I believe it. And when you come to
20:11
Speaker 1: me and say, oh, speaking of weir, any chance we
20:15
Speaker 1: can go take on the replicators are going to try
20:17
Speaker 1: and find her, and she's like no, And it's like
20:20
Speaker 1: anyone else if that was any new character, but your
20:22
Speaker 1: son of a bit, you don't want to go and
20:23
Speaker 1: find your predecessor because you don't want to find out
20:25
Speaker 1: that she's okay, and she could potentially be leading this
20:28
Speaker 1: and you would be out of the job. The fact
20:29
Speaker 1: that it's Carter and she says no, and I'm like,
20:31
Speaker 1: oh yeah, But I think I'm siding with Carter. They're like,
20:34
Speaker 1: she's actually thinking. She would, of course want to save someone,
20:37
Speaker 1: but she's not risking anything. She's not risking this entire base.
20:39
Speaker 2: Well, and didn't she say this one. She's like, you
20:41
Speaker 2: come to me with a good plan and I'll consider it. Absolutely,
20:43
Speaker 2: will be completely open to it. But right now, you
20:46
Speaker 2: just want to do it.
20:46
Speaker 1: That's nothing. That's not a plan.
20:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gone to the Ronan School of Rescue at
20:51
Speaker 2: this point. He's just you know, wants to act without thinking.
20:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trump, I have concepts of a plan, so I
20:58
Speaker 1: didn't didn't quite work out. That's fine.
21:00
Speaker 2: So absolutely they did mention though the like the I
21:04
Speaker 2: don't know that we really see much of it on screen. Well,
21:06
Speaker 2: we definitely see in this episode, but they reference the
21:08
Speaker 2: fact that the Wraith replicated war is kind of in
21:11
Speaker 2: full sweem from what did sort of last week reactivating
21:15
Speaker 2: the program and stuff like that.
21:16
Speaker 1: I even liked that. That was one of his counterpoints.
21:19
Speaker 1: When Old Villainis comes to him and says, hey, I
21:23
Speaker 1: reckon we go and take them down, He's like, why
21:24
Speaker 1: don't we just wait a couple of weeks because they're
21:26
Speaker 1: kind of kicking the shit out of each other. Anyway,
21:28
Speaker 1: let's just go in there and pick up the pieces
21:30
Speaker 1: and take what you want. And it's oh no, but
21:32
Speaker 1: it's if we don't, then this is going to okay.
21:34
Speaker 1: That's that's fine, like making good points. But I liked
21:37
Speaker 1: that because at that stage I didn't necessarily think we
21:41
Speaker 1: were going to get into some serious Wraith stuff. So
21:43
Speaker 1: I like that they just threw that in because we
21:44
Speaker 1: heard about it last week, is maybe that's what's happening.
21:47
Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, we might hear about it
21:49
Speaker 1: for the next six weeks. Occasionally, we'll just hear, oh, yeah,
21:51
Speaker 1: the war's still going on, and it looks like the
21:53
Speaker 1: Wraith have lost a couple of ships at Hive ships
21:55
Speaker 1: and stuff, and all the replicators are down to whatever,
21:58
Speaker 1: and it'll just be something that's going on background for
22:00
Speaker 1: a little while. The fact that we then next week
22:03
Speaker 1: jump into the Wraith and they've got a replicator, it's like, Okay,
22:06
Speaker 1: we can't get away with it. We're gonna be stuck
22:08
Speaker 1: with this for a little while. But you know, yeah,
22:11
Speaker 1: so I mean, bring it back in because we can't.
22:13
Speaker 1: We can't get away with it. But not talking about
22:15
Speaker 1: it for a long time.
22:16
Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly. Well it does sort of keep it
22:18
Speaker 2: alive because it's like obviously the last two three episodes
22:20
Speaker 2: were quite big and quite heavy, so it's like, yeah,
22:22
Speaker 2: it's good to know that. Okay, that stuff is all
22:24
Speaker 2: happening in the background, even if you know, we're not
22:26
Speaker 2: seeing it, stuff happening off screen, we're not seeing so yeah,
22:29
Speaker 2: which is good speaking of things we see on screen, though,
22:33
Speaker 2: this is the first on screen wraith kill for McKay.
22:38
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I guess he makes a point of
22:40
Speaker 1: it too, doesn't he like to say he has never
22:42
Speaker 1: done it.
22:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he never done it because you think about
22:44
Speaker 2: like back in like season one with what was it,
22:46
Speaker 2: oh I forget what that the Desert Moon one whatever
22:49
Speaker 2: it was called, but it's like, you know, he goes
22:51
Speaker 2: to fire and like the magazine falls out of the gun. Yeah, yeah,
22:54
Speaker 2: he does other one where he beams in order and
22:56
Speaker 2: he just like spins in a circle shooting his gun
22:58
Speaker 2: doesn't hit anything. So yeah, yeah, it's some good character
23:01
Speaker 2: progression for him as well.
23:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, not even like that. He wasn't afraid to say
23:04
Speaker 1: that with you know, Big Stocky, you know, henchman bloke
23:08
Speaker 1: of other teens and Bekai and he's like, you know,
23:13
Speaker 1: you guys were having how many kills have you had?
23:15
Speaker 1: And he's like that's hardly the point, but I mean
23:17
Speaker 1: we've taken down full five ships. I mean compared to us,
23:19
Speaker 1: you were amateurs. And they goes like, yeah, hold him back.
23:22
Speaker 1: But then later when he reveals himself to be a
23:24
Speaker 1: trader and then still goes over he like, who's an amateur? Now,
23:28
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, like he was, he was like essentially
23:31
Speaker 1: insulting who he thought you were. The fact that you're
23:34
Speaker 1: not someone who's out there killing wraith? Why even take
23:37
Speaker 1: offense at that? Like they were. They were taking offense
23:40
Speaker 1: based on who you were, you know, pre being controlled
23:43
Speaker 1: by the Wraith? So fuck up, Like, I just just
23:46
Speaker 1: pissed me off as a character to some big, you know, brutus,
23:49
Speaker 1: Like you know, I guess what you would have a
23:50
Speaker 1: problem with a lot of those sort of just march
23:52
Speaker 1: there for the sake of being marching characters like, oh no,
23:54
Speaker 1: I killed plenty of people, but that's but you're not
23:57
Speaker 1: even trying to do that anymore. It's not a competition,
24:00
Speaker 1: you're not even playing the game anymore. What do you
24:02
Speaker 1: what are you possibly getting offended about? You should be
24:04
Speaker 1: higher than those insults, because I don't know.
24:06
Speaker 2: Those two I think were definitely the letdown for me,
24:09
Speaker 2: especially towards the end of the episode, Like during the
24:11
Speaker 2: big fight, it's it's a real clunky moment where like
24:15
Speaker 2: Bakai kills Aa, like she goes and like just goes
24:19
Speaker 2: to I don't know, calm him down or grab or
24:21
Speaker 2: something or other, and like I think the beat was
24:24
Speaker 2: supposed to be in the heat of the moment, he
24:25
Speaker 2: just kind of spun around in it and like slid
24:28
Speaker 2: her throat, but it was just really clunkily shot and
24:31
Speaker 2: executed it though.
24:32
Speaker 1: He's just got a jack of it sort of thing
24:34
Speaker 1: or he's like it's almost like, you know, if it
24:36
Speaker 1: was juiced up. He was like he went to the
24:37
Speaker 1: you know, wrote it out to the max a little bit.
24:39
Speaker 1: But then that moment where he goes right and like
24:41
Speaker 1: screams like you made me do it. I'm like, I
24:43
Speaker 1: think you had enough reaction time there, mate, Like yeah,
24:45
Speaker 1: season professional, like you and you knew she was there,
24:48
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't, I don't know, it was. Yeah, the
24:51
Speaker 1: blocking of it was a little bit weird. The editing
24:53
Speaker 1: wasn't there quite to save it, so.
24:55
Speaker 2: And it was Well Wearing who directed it, so it's
24:57
Speaker 2: just like, you know, he's he's done it, funny like
24:59
Speaker 2: he knows he knows what he's doing. It was the
25:00
Speaker 2: first timer, unless maybe that was shot second unit or
25:03
Speaker 2: something like that, but goold think. So I just yeah,
25:05
Speaker 2: I just felt real clunky and weird. And I'm not
25:07
Speaker 2: a fan at all for.
25:09
Speaker 1: For such a turning point moment too that really need
25:13
Speaker 1: to sell that.
25:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're get to kill this character. It kind of
25:16
Speaker 2: feels like, okay, well we've got because death written, We've
25:19
Speaker 2: got the evil eyed death written. How do we get
25:22
Speaker 2: rid of the girl?
25:23
Speaker 1: I will just do this?
25:24
Speaker 2: You know, they just kind of came up with it
25:25
Speaker 2: on the day. But I was just like, oh, that
25:27
Speaker 2: was rough.
25:28
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're not quite in the you know,
25:31
Speaker 1: not to spoil anything for mitched to the territory and
25:33
Speaker 1: we almost can't get back into that, but I mean,
25:35
Speaker 1: how how how worried should I be hypothetically about you know,
25:39
Speaker 1: the Wraith being on on you know, kind of on
25:42
Speaker 1: the cusp of figuring out how to turn the kill
25:44
Speaker 1: switch off on the on the old replicators.
25:48
Speaker 2: I mean who knows, who knows?
25:51
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, good, what have we I.
25:55
Speaker 2: Mean, you know, you've got next week's episodes Doppelganger, then
25:58
Speaker 2: we've got travelers. Oh shit, Tabla Rasa, Missing the Sea.
26:04
Speaker 1: You're saying these titles like they should mean something.
26:07
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just seeing if there's any clues in there.
26:09
Speaker 2: But you know, I guess that's the threat that they've
26:11
Speaker 2: got to they've got to throw in.
26:13
Speaker 1: You know, that's unsurprised, like not only that we went
26:16
Speaker 1: straight back to a Wraith story in a way, but
26:19
Speaker 1: that we started a war right at the end of
26:21
Speaker 1: the final second, you going a look at that replicators
26:24
Speaker 1: and the Raith are kind of at each other, and
26:26
Speaker 1: then here already it's like, we're just about to figure
26:28
Speaker 1: out how to switch it off. Yeah, that's quick, that
26:30
Speaker 1: seems yeah, but only you'll be coming back to you.
26:32
Speaker 1: But you're also like, we could have maybe come back
26:34
Speaker 1: to them, and then in three weeks they go, oh,
26:37
Speaker 1: they're about to figure it out, and it'say, oh shit,
26:39
Speaker 1: we were just starting to get comfortable, we were just
26:41
Speaker 1: starting to explore again. No, no, it's all happened less
26:44
Speaker 1: than an episode's worth of runtime after.
26:47
Speaker 2: We first spent out. They went to war, all happening
26:49
Speaker 2: off screen. The war itself was happening off screen.
26:51
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little bit of it.
26:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then they throw out stuff like that. Yeah.
26:55
Speaker 2: But again maybe because it was you know, seventh maybe
26:59
Speaker 2: they got confu years and went, oh, it's enough time now. Yeah,
27:02
Speaker 2: you know, it's been enough time now too for us
27:05
Speaker 2: to start introducing that.
27:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ronan stuff from earlier though, that I that
27:10
Speaker 1: I was talking about, like it just I like that,
27:13
Speaker 1: you know, he come about his mates, and you know,
27:16
Speaker 1: it was quite prepared to you know, blow them away
27:18
Speaker 1: until he saw that it was his friends. They embrace
27:20
Speaker 1: each other. Good on you, Taylor for like immediately having
27:25
Speaker 1: a drink with them, not holding it against them between scenes. Maybe,
27:28
Speaker 1: but we don't know that because next time we see them,
27:30
Speaker 1: they're having an ale together in the same village that
27:32
Speaker 1: we always.
27:33
Speaker 2: Got staining the steel mugs with foam bottoms on them,
27:37
Speaker 2: you know, very very app for two thousand and seven.
27:39
Speaker 1: Something about when I see people drinking, like I don't
27:42
Speaker 1: know what they're drinking, but I want it to look
27:46
Speaker 1: a little chilled, you know, Like I'm not saying they've
27:48
Speaker 1: got like an iced keg back there. But you know
27:51
Speaker 1: the fact that they're just drinking warm alcohol all the time,
27:54
Speaker 1: or you know some type of you know, even room
27:56
Speaker 1: temperature wine. I can get that in like a medieval
27:59
Speaker 1: type show, and I get these medieval type looking villagers.
28:02
Speaker 1: But I don't know, well, famously, but a condensation on
28:05
Speaker 1: those cups and mugs and stuff like just let me
28:07
Speaker 1: think that you're having a refreshing drink. I don't know.
28:09
Speaker 1: Something about them always gets me, not just this show,
28:11
Speaker 1: any show.
28:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, famously in Gilmore Girls, they're obviously they drink.
28:14
Speaker 2: They drink. They drink a lot of coffee. And the
28:17
Speaker 2: daughter a Lexus Bludel, who plays Rory, that actress, she
28:20
Speaker 2: doesn't drink coffee in real life. So whenever they would
28:23
Speaker 2: have to pour something from a coffee earn, like a
28:26
Speaker 2: coffee pot into her cuppes, you have to drink it.
28:28
Speaker 2: It was like flat cola, like water cola, and she
28:31
Speaker 2: would have to drink that because she she wouldn't drink coffee.
28:34
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't drink coffee either, But I mean,
28:38
Speaker 2: can you have a mouthful for a like for the
28:40
Speaker 2: money you're getting paid, you think you could just the
28:43
Speaker 2: closest I forgot, and some would say I probably still
28:45
Speaker 2: have never drunk coffee, but it was like nes Cafe
28:47
Speaker 2: blend forty three black with just like a lot of sugar.
28:50
Speaker 1: Ye around that shit. Yeah, I mean the fact that
28:54
Speaker 1: I have tea and you know, I bastardize it with milk,
28:57
Speaker 1: which isn't that bad. But again, sugar, Yeah, I don't
28:59
Speaker 1: do sugar anymore. I pull honey into it because I
29:01
Speaker 1: substitute my I'm just getting sugar for sugar. But you know,
29:04
Speaker 1: real old man ship.
29:05
Speaker 2: Oh my my trade off is I use raw sugar
29:08
Speaker 2: because that's better strip before you than apparently. Yeah, speaking
29:13
Speaker 2: of sugar, huh did you a little something? When it's
29:18
Speaker 2: a blink and you'll miss it? But when a shepherd
29:22
Speaker 2: shows up with his stolen fruit bowl.
29:25
Speaker 1: That was great. That was so funny, such a small thing.
29:30
Speaker 1: That's so funny.
29:31
Speaker 2: It's it's the two thousand and seven version of now
29:34
Speaker 2: when like you see a meme and you go, that's
29:37
Speaker 2: gold and you got you know, I've already sent this
29:40
Speaker 2: person like five memes today. I won't send them that
29:44
Speaker 2: and then like the next day they post it or
29:47
Speaker 2: they something like you just go, oh, I could have
29:49
Speaker 2: got the credit.
29:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
29:51
Speaker 2: Feel like that's what it is.
29:53
Speaker 1: I feel like that pineapple looked just too pineapplely though
29:56
Speaker 1: it was in the bowl. I'm like, haven't we had
29:58
Speaker 1: a purple pineapple in this show before? And something come on?
30:01
Speaker 1: Just something, Yeah, well, don't have it at all. Chop
30:03
Speaker 1: it in half and have it just face up, because
30:07
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, that's an undisclosed looking sort of
30:09
Speaker 1: weird looking through.
30:10
Speaker 2: Take the top off it and put a fern on
30:13
Speaker 2: top of it something, you know, change it up, just
30:15
Speaker 2: two pineapply.
30:16
Speaker 1: Oh, this is such a foreign for it. But it's
30:17
Speaker 1: such a great moment because I'm there going I kind
30:20
Speaker 1: of what I wanted to see, whether it would have
30:22
Speaker 1: been appreciated if Rodney had have done yeah, would have
30:25
Speaker 1: actually taken it the way that it was taken. And
30:28
Speaker 1: then he really ficks up by instead of going, Okay,
30:32
Speaker 1: so this is happening, and I'm seeing someone and just
30:34
Speaker 1: making it and I'm like, oh, I feel like you
30:38
Speaker 1: believe what you're saying. But also there's a part of
30:41
Speaker 1: me that wonders whether you're just gas lighting the shit
30:44
Speaker 1: out of her by gun you know, this whole awkwardness
30:47
Speaker 1: where you know you totally want to have sex. It
30:48
Speaker 1: can't happen. It just like it doesn't because it's I
30:50
Speaker 1: know it can't. You're right, like, we can't do that,
30:53
Speaker 1: we're too professional, and her going Rodney's like, sh team
30:56
Speaker 1: America stuff, don't And I'm like, I'm so torn. I'm like,
31:00
Speaker 1: are you doing that to try and establish some not power?
31:03
Speaker 1: But you were so embarrassed then by the fruit thing
31:05
Speaker 1: that you just had to get something back in the room.
31:08
Speaker 1: Or do you still genuinely after all these years, honestly
31:12
Speaker 1: believe that because you're brilliant and she's brilliant, and she's hot,
31:15
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what you look like because you're
31:17
Speaker 1: so smart. Not that Dave hilt as an ugly man
31:20
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I mean, you know, I'm
31:22
Speaker 1: far more attractive to colorboards. Let's just put it like that.
31:25
Speaker 1: And he still said it. I just thought that was
31:28
Speaker 1: so really well performed. When I'm confused about how it's
31:31
Speaker 1: meant to be taken, I think that's when it's really
31:33
Speaker 1: well performed.
31:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and you know the real reason why she
31:36
Speaker 2: could never be with Rodney is because the heart belongs
31:38
Speaker 2: to another. Uh huh. And If you look very closely
31:40
Speaker 2: at the start of that scene as it pans off
31:43
Speaker 2: her gear, her kit of stuff she's unpacking, you will
31:46
Speaker 2: see she has a framed photo of one Jack O'Neill,
31:50
Speaker 2: oh bullshit in.
31:52
Speaker 1: Her stuff and that like it's an action shot too,
31:55
Speaker 1: Like he's like a screenshot from like season six. It
31:58
Speaker 1: actually looks like you've done that, you know, like you
32:01
Speaker 1: talking about me and you know that the ones that
32:03
Speaker 1: go around where it's you know, X Men animated, x
32:06
Speaker 1: Men Wolverine, holy, yeah, yeah, and someone just bat superposes.
32:09
Speaker 1: That's what that looks like. We'll post up on socials
32:12
Speaker 1: if you think of it. And yeah, the fact that
32:14
Speaker 1: it's it's just a picture of him with like his
32:18
Speaker 1: mission of world off world, yeah, trees behind it doesn't
32:22
Speaker 1: really matter. The fact that very clearly just taking it.
32:24
Speaker 1: That's yeah. Wow, And that's just for the fans there.
32:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not even a picture of the two of them,
32:29
Speaker 2: just picture of him lovingly into his eyes. Yeah, she's
32:34
Speaker 2: at her desk.
32:34
Speaker 1: Because if it's him, that says one thing. If it's
32:36
Speaker 1: the two of them, that basically says the same thing.
32:39
Speaker 1: If it's SG one, you know, even sans Mitchell. Yeah,
32:44
Speaker 1: it'd be like, oh, that's my team, that's my people,
32:46
Speaker 1: but there's the guy that I'm in love with. You
32:48
Speaker 1: can sneak that through. That's that's like, I know, that's
32:52
Speaker 1: just for the fans because they're never going to really
32:54
Speaker 1: focus on it too much, but like that's still a
32:55
Speaker 1: big thing in world for you to include. That tells
32:57
Speaker 1: you things as an audience, especially those of us that
33:00
Speaker 1: are that are invested. So yeah, I mean it's it's
33:03
Speaker 1: fun but also a dangerous thing to put in because
33:05
Speaker 1: then when people come at you in five seasons asking
33:07
Speaker 1: you a questions's like, oh, guys, and that was a
33:08
Speaker 1: bit of that was an injoke that was well, that
33:10
Speaker 1: was just for you. It's like no, no, no, but
33:11
Speaker 1: you did it.
33:12
Speaker 2: All I'll say is, you know, once she gets through
33:14
Speaker 2: off a setup, just keep an eye out, just keep
33:16
Speaker 2: an eye out on things around her office.
33:18
Speaker 1: So it may be okay, okay here, I'm just making
33:20
Speaker 1: assumptions as the first time. One last thing Taylor in
33:26
Speaker 1: her conversation, it was funny how many people actually try
33:29
Speaker 1: to talk Ronan out of out of going, Oh, actually
33:33
Speaker 1: I don't need to go before you can get to
33:34
Speaker 1: the tailor stuff. The Karter stuff where she's like, hey,
33:37
Speaker 1: I really don't want you to leave, and you know
33:39
Speaker 1: everyone loves you so much. He's like, and because of
33:41
Speaker 1: how much I know about Atlanta, you don't want me to.
33:43
Speaker 1: It would certainly be beneficial if you didn't, Like, are
33:47
Speaker 1: you gonna cap this guy?
33:48
Speaker 2: Like this is our brand new base?
33:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, where are we going to get to? Honestly, how
33:54
Speaker 1: far he can push you to stop him?
33:56
Speaker 2: We're had to cancel like our top ten favorite places
33:59
Speaker 2: because we thought you might sell us out. We're at
34:01
Speaker 2: like twelve on the list at the moment. Yeah, you know,
34:04
Speaker 2: we don't want to have to downgrade any further.
34:06
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I didn't like when it started him saying
34:09
Speaker 1: I want to leave. I just thought it would be
34:10
Speaker 1: a very personal decision, not the fact that they would
34:13
Speaker 1: have to be Like now you're going out there with
34:14
Speaker 1: the with the with the with the code to get
34:16
Speaker 1: into the front door.
34:17
Speaker 2: I did like that. Apparently off screen, McKay like stole
34:19
Speaker 2: the painting out of his quarters.
34:20
Speaker 1: Oh that's brilliant. So there's so many little moments like that,
34:23
Speaker 1: just little personal bits and pieces along the way that
34:24
Speaker 1: are funny about this episode. Who wrote it actually John Paul, Yeah,
34:28
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, sorry because it was I did see
34:30
Speaker 1: their name spop up. I was trying to remember where
34:32
Speaker 1: that was, just like an EP thing or something in there.
34:34
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, really really well written, I think of
34:36
Speaker 1: for those character moments like that.
34:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think for me, the the Karter stuff,
34:41
Speaker 2: even though it was the B plot, I found it
34:43
Speaker 2: much more interesting than the sett and stuff.
34:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, were a bit.
34:48
Speaker 2: Math for me. Yeah.
34:49
Speaker 1: The Taylor conversation that I did start to talk about before,
34:53
Speaker 1: where she came in and was trying to talk him
34:56
Speaker 1: out of it and he's like, you wudn't even know
34:57
Speaker 1: what this is. Like She's like, I'll stop you there,
34:59
Speaker 1: because yeah, I had to leave my people when I
35:01
Speaker 1: was just and I was like, hang on, what do
35:03
Speaker 1: you mean She's like to join this? I know you've
35:05
Speaker 1: joined it years ago, but what do you what are
35:07
Speaker 1: you talking about? Because here I was over the last
35:09
Speaker 1: couple of episodes asking did the Ethosians did they make
35:14
Speaker 1: the cut to come off the.
35:16
Speaker 2: Or have we let them know they're on their own
35:17
Speaker 2: planet elsewhere now or something? Right?
35:19
Speaker 1: When did that happen?
35:21
Speaker 2: I want to say, when the ancients came back in
35:23
Speaker 2: the return, remember how like at the end.
35:24
Speaker 1: Of the right so they never come back post that.
35:27
Speaker 2: No, they okay, planet, I don't think. I think they
35:31
Speaker 2: just got sick of having to be shipped back and
35:33
Speaker 2: forward from the mainland.
35:34
Speaker 1: And so you would like when you when you're trying
35:35
Speaker 1: to set yourself up in the you know, in the rough.
35:38
Speaker 1: It's one thing if you live on base, you're like,
35:40
Speaker 1: all right, I'll just walk downstairs when you're having to
35:41
Speaker 1: like pack up your tent and or that.
35:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh, we just want to make soup.
35:44
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just thought that was an interesting thing to
35:48
Speaker 1: bring up because I didn't have that knowledge on are
35:51
Speaker 1: you talking about now or like years ago? Either way?
35:54
Speaker 1: You know, Ronan out of line? How dare you? But
35:57
Speaker 1: also I'm like, well, yeah, I forget where they are
36:00
Speaker 1: right now.
36:01
Speaker 2: Only was ever explicitly stated, But that to me makes
36:04
Speaker 2: the most sense because everyone had to leave Atlantis. Yeah,
36:07
Speaker 2: at that end of the part one and or the
36:10
Speaker 2: middle of part one and the end of part one
36:12
Speaker 2: of the return is when our team, after we've stolen
36:14
Speaker 2: the jumper, goes back to Pegasus and we find Ronan
36:17
Speaker 2: and Taylor with their people in that little camp. And
36:20
Speaker 2: that's kind of the last time we sort of even
36:22
Speaker 2: mentioned the Ethosions, I think.
36:24
Speaker 1: And short of Taylor actually giving a shit about her people,
36:26
Speaker 1: which I'm sure she does, it's kind of funny to
36:27
Speaker 1: me that, Okay, they've had to leave Atlantis for if
36:29
Speaker 1: they hadn't that they just happened to run into the
36:32
Speaker 1: Ethosians at one stage or another down the line, and
36:34
Speaker 1: they go, oh, it sucks that we had to leave
36:36
Speaker 1: that planet, and our team were like, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
36:39
Speaker 1: never made it back, super super sucky that we left
36:43
Speaker 1: that great planet and you guys had to leave too.
36:44
Speaker 1: So where are we now? It doesn't it doesn't matter.
36:47
Speaker 1: It's a shit hole. You're definitely a better place now.
36:50
Speaker 2: There is a part of me that kind of wishes
36:52
Speaker 2: that they're still on the original Atlantis planet and after
36:54
Speaker 2: we left, like we took the city from First Strike,
36:57
Speaker 2: now they just stranded on that planet Star Game. Yeah,
37:00
Speaker 2: that's the part of that's what I wish.
37:01
Speaker 1: With someone just waiting out in the edge of the
37:03
Speaker 1: cliff at the beach, just like, yeah, supply drop that
37:09
Speaker 1: medicine is due waiting waiting and it's just the bloody
37:15
Speaker 1: flagisallis on the horizon? Poll one out all right. That
37:20
Speaker 1: is episode three of season four Stag at Atlantis Reunion.
37:26
Speaker 2: In an episode of the season check checks.
37:28
Speaker 1: Now we go back to letting him do now no
37:30
Speaker 1: wonder we wanted to get a tattoo. He's like, well,
37:32
Speaker 1: it's going to make any difference anyway, assholes, Next week
37:36
Speaker 1: dopp or ganger? I mean, I know what that word means.
37:41
Speaker 1: Don't know what that could possibly mean for the episode,
37:44
Speaker 1: but we'll find out next week. And did I read
37:46
Speaker 1: ahead and see that it is not only written, not
37:49
Speaker 1: only directed, but written and directed by one Robert C. Cooper?
37:52
Speaker 1: Have I seen that in my.
37:55
Speaker 2: I'm really sick matter. I don't know if I'm going
37:57
Speaker 2: to make it next week.
37:58
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to make it next
38:00
Speaker 1: There's no way for anyone, for anyone that dabbles not
38:06
Speaker 1: only in US here and getting too gate, but also
38:09
Speaker 1: over on getting too geek. We've got several shows there, Maddie.
38:12
Speaker 1: You've punched out very recently some Star Trek stuff. So
38:15
Speaker 1: when we give we now it's up to me to
38:18
Speaker 1: give you shit about Star Trek podcast. We'll really see
38:21
Speaker 1: how far that joke can go when it's only me
38:24
Speaker 1: in the studio and I haven't got the courage. But
38:27
Speaker 1: some Star Trek stuff over there, some Marvel stuff, some
38:31
Speaker 1: Star Wars stuff, and then I've been doing some DC
38:33
Speaker 1: stuff because I did it years and years and years ago.
38:35
Speaker 1: And I'm just basically, when I say basically, absolutely only
38:38
Speaker 1: doing it by myself at this point. And I hate
38:42
Speaker 1: how that sounds.
38:43
Speaker 2: It's just me talking.
38:44
Speaker 1: It's just me sharing my opinion and talk.
38:47
Speaker 2: I could never do it on my own like that,
38:49
Speaker 2: like I listened to, There'd be.
38:51
Speaker 1: A thousand podcasts like it. But I love comedian Bill Burr,
38:54
Speaker 1: and I'll listen to his podcast twice a week, and
38:56
Speaker 1: for those for new content, it's an hour and a
38:58
Speaker 1: half worth of content and stuff over two different podcasts
39:02
Speaker 1: every week. It's just him half the time. At the moment,
39:04
Speaker 1: he's just sitting in his car. He'll be either driving
39:06
Speaker 1: or he's like, oh, I know some working on at
39:08
Speaker 1: my house. I've just had to pull around the corner
39:10
Speaker 1: and he's just recording while he's sitting in his car,
39:11
Speaker 1: and he will just talk for an hour non stop.
39:15
Speaker 1: And I get that you're a comedian, so you should
39:17
Speaker 1: be able to work with what's in front of you
39:18
Speaker 1: and he can talk about his life and all that,
39:20
Speaker 1: but I'm like, what would that be like? And I've
39:22
Speaker 1: tried to do that even just driving home. Okay, And
39:25
Speaker 1: as if I'm recording, what would I talk about if
39:28
Speaker 1: I had to talk about myself or my day?
39:30
Speaker 2: I mean, if I can't do that. If there was
39:32
Speaker 2: any topic for me to be able to do that,
39:33
Speaker 2: it would be Star Treks.
39:34
Speaker 1: Sure, and we can come in here. I've watched an
39:37
Speaker 1: episode of TV and I can talk about stuff, and
39:39
Speaker 1: you know, some we could talk about for three hours.
39:41
Speaker 1: Otherwise we'd only be talking about other ones. We'd only
39:44
Speaker 1: be talking about for twelve minutes. And that's a stretch
39:46
Speaker 1: because there's nothing going on. So please don't do that.
39:50
Speaker 1: I already hate doing that for the DC stuff, not
39:52
Speaker 1: because I don't like some of the stuff I'm talking about.
39:54
Speaker 1: It's just I know it's only me, and I can't
39:56
Speaker 1: imagine how awful that is to listen to. Whereas here,
39:59
Speaker 1: I know that I've comfortable because I've got co hosts
40:01
Speaker 1: and at the moment, co host Please don't take your
40:04
Speaker 1: first leave day when it is just me talking about
40:07
Speaker 1: a Robert C. Cooper written a directed episode of Stargate Atlantis.
40:10
Speaker 1: It'd be different if it was just SG one. At
40:12
Speaker 1: least I would have already seen it before. I'm coming
40:14
Speaker 1: in absolutely blind.
40:15
Speaker 2: How dare you you know? I'm probably going to come
40:17
Speaker 2: in here about eight bits of audio from the audio
40:20
Speaker 2: commentary or something like that.
40:21
Speaker 1: I didn't think about audio commentary. Yeah, but I guess
40:23
Speaker 1: we had some fun with Arch of Truth.
40:24
Speaker 2: Yeah. But hey, if you'd like a reunion of you know,
40:28
Speaker 2: the whole get into eighteen.
40:29
Speaker 1: Oh, well done, check out our Patreon. Oh shit, it's
40:32
Speaker 1: been eight year since we've done a little call out
40:35
Speaker 1: like that.
40:35
Speaker 2: That is fantastic, you know, just like these fine people
40:40
Speaker 2: that you have in front of you mine.
40:41
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you very much for handing that over on
40:43
Speaker 1: a digital platform. We have Gabe Siciliano. How do we
40:49
Speaker 1: say that? Like? Who was it? There was someone recently
40:52
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't help but say his name, assuming
40:56
Speaker 1: that it sounds as sexy is what I was trying
40:57
Speaker 1: to make it out to me.
40:59
Speaker 2: But Gabe, I want to think it Gabe short for Gabriel.
41:02
Speaker 1: Gabriel or Gabriella my father today and then followed up
41:08
Speaker 1: by Sam Sam Sam Sam, Thank you Sam.
41:14
Speaker 2: Someone's well done here.
41:17
Speaker 1: I was thinking if I just say Sam in the
41:19
Speaker 1: Elijah Woodway, that would be enough for you. And you
41:21
Speaker 1: come out with his full name first and second.
41:23
Speaker 2: Government name this great name yeful gin. Sure.
41:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a gin.
41:29
Speaker 2: I enjoy gin. I'm a gin drinker, Yes you are.
41:31
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd drink drink gifu, but I
41:34
Speaker 2: drink some y foo gin gin slipp into our DMS.
41:38
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like a form of martial
41:40
Speaker 1: art or a move that you could pull off, or
41:43
Speaker 1: it would be like at the end of a movie
41:45
Speaker 1: where someone would cry out because you Fu is like
41:47
Speaker 1: you know, the Lord's sorcerer at the end.
41:49
Speaker 2: It is like you wasn't the name of the Haars thesis.
41:52
Speaker 2: Wasn't his name? Yfu no she fuchi fo? Yeah?
41:57
Speaker 1: And it was a boy. We don't know. How do
42:00
Speaker 1: I assume it's twenty five? Certainly not a thesis? Yeah,
42:03
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. Ian Harvey. That's like someone that
42:06
Speaker 1: literally lives across the road compared to every other name.
42:09
Speaker 1: Ian Harvey. Comoe o k M y O. Come come on,
42:18
Speaker 1: if we're saying it backwards, I don't know why. Sure,
42:21
Speaker 1: stupid chap, I is the next one. Thank you very much.
42:25
Speaker 1: Nikki Hills, thank you, Joe Dougan, Stick gans Zick.
42:32
Speaker 2: This is aganstic being on the other side of it
42:34
Speaker 2: for a change. Yeah, I love this.
42:35
Speaker 1: Why can't you be reading these? Raymond Casperson, great name.
42:39
Speaker 1: And Christina Christina with a c or Oka with a
42:43
Speaker 1: c okay? Oh okay, what's your preference? I like a
42:47
Speaker 1: k okay Christina.
42:48
Speaker 2: Yeah mmmmmm, it's less Jesus because it doesn't have them.
42:55
Speaker 1: I just go straight to Aguilera.
42:57
Speaker 2: I don't know Applegate, I think famously Aguilera. She she
43:02
Speaker 2: doesn't have the H, does she? She's just cri st.
43:04
Speaker 1: I ain't holly. Guess what I'm doing?
43:06
Speaker 2: Whoa big call?
43:08
Speaker 1: I'm googling Guolera. No, she's got the H. Maybe she
43:15
Speaker 1: changed it to trying to peace to the Christian crowd
43:18
Speaker 1: or something. But no, Christina Aguilera, Christina Maria Aguilla. I
43:23
Speaker 1: don't know why I keep saying it like that. Guys,
43:25
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Ten brand new peeps on the Patreon,
43:30
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Uh and no, your your support
43:34
Speaker 1: is safe that it is going to be a two
43:36
Speaker 1: person episode next week. And then Mattie was of course joking,
43:39
Speaker 1: and you will not be in fact supporting an episode
43:41
Speaker 1: that is solely voiced by me. Is that bullshit?
43:45
Speaker 2: Mate?
43:46
Speaker 1: Mask up and get some demason into it because you
43:48
Speaker 1: are coming back next week.
43:49
Speaker 2: I feel like I've got cancer.
43:56
Speaker 1: I personally don't think that's anything to laugh about or bring.
44:00
Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to get cancer. I was laughing at
44:01
Speaker 2: your face.
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