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James Strole is the Executive Director of the Coalition for Radical Life Extension · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Good morning everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless Today. I
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have a guest that I have been talking to for quite a while and he
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was introduced to me through a very loving friendship that I have with a gentleman
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who was on my podcast named Phil Mickens. And that's gentleman from London who
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runs a company called International Aging Systems and he is just a fabulous human being.
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And one day we were chatting and he said, I want you to
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meet James Stroll because I think you two are going to really connect and you
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have a lot of the same alignments in your thinking. And so anyway,
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he went on to give me a whole treatise on James before I ever chatted
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with him. So, James, thank you so much for coming on Ageless
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and Timeless Today and we're welcome. Well, thank you for having me.
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And yeah, Bill Phil Meekins is a great individual. WEB know him for
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I think about seven years now. Yeah, yeah, he's he. If
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you ever have a chance to listen to our podcast, it was pretty pretty
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interesting and of course he always has something to say. And I saw him
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at at the American Academy of Anti Aging in December, and I said,
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hey, Phil wanted to come over and meet me at Muscle and Fitness where
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you know, that's one of our distribution sites. And so I was at
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their booth. So he comes over and was in about five minutes. He
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was being interviewed by Rob Fletcher and his cohorts for one of their podcasts.
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So I guess that we worked well ful Phil, that he just stopped by
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and it just was secured. It was fortuitous that they were ready to do
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a show, and there he was, and so suddenly he became a movie
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star at Muscle and Fitness. But I don't think does he go to Radfest
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your your festival that fil has been several times? Oh, okay, does
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he? Does he exhibit there? Yes, he's gonna He's gonna have an
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exhibit this year. He probably won't come this year. He's got some issues
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going on, but the puppy will be represented. Okay, Well, let
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me tell our viewers a little bit about you, James, because you have
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such a fascinating background. I really didn't know of you until Phil mentioned.
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Then I did all my homework and then I spoke to you, and like
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I was completely blown away by all of your history, and we'll talk about
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that in a moment. But so so, the Coalition for Radical Life Extension
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is one of your babies, along with well you have people Unlimited rad Fest,
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which stands for Revolution against Aging and Death for anyone that wants to know
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what that means. So it's our aa D and then Fest and that's an
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annual event that happens and it will be happening in Anaheim September. Was it
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fifth to seventh? Right by eight? Yeah, so at the highest regency
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and we'll flash a little information about that on the screen during the show today.
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But anyway, so I've done a lot of homework on you, and
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the more I read about you, the more I watch you on podcasts,
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the more enthusiastic I become about what you stand for. And I know it's
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it's still in the I guess you'd say, the controversial phase of development.
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But you've been doing this for what fifty years now, So let's let's talk
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a little bit about how this all happened and start us from the beginning.
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I know you were eleven years old and your grandmother passed away and that was
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a life changing event. Why don't you take it from there and tell us
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exactly what happened and how you came from there to hear. Hey, okay,
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I'll do my best to cover that I have so so, yeah,
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you're right. I was eleven years old my grandmother passed. I was very
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close. There was my first experience, you know, with somebody close to
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me dying. I think most everybody's had this kind of experience, you know.
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For me, it was very very painful, and because she was a
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very vibrant woman, loving and you know I adored her, you know,
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as a kid, and so yeah, I saw her really suffer with cancer
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and her body just you know, fade away. And then when she died,
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I had a lot of you know, grief over that. I asked
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my mother, I said, well, we get to see you grandmother again,
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you know, And my mother said, well when when you die and
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go to heaven? And I thought, oh, well that didn't sound really
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you know, great to a kid, right when you have to die to
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go to go and and so so uh, you know, kids a lot
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of times can can simplify these matters that we adults we come, we make
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them more complex. So it's pretty simple to me. I didn't want to
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die and so I said to my mother, I said, well, why
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can't we have heaven here on earth? Yeah, you know, and my
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mother said, oh, that's a good thought. She was she was progressive,
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she was a seeker on that level, and she said, that's a
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good thought. Why don't you pursue that? So that was in my blood,
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you might want to say, for from then on. I mean,
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when I was in school, i'd write themes on this topic, you know,
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fifth and sixth grade, and I would write, you know, all
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kinds. Whenever there's an opportunity to write some theme would I'd write on this
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particular topic, how we could create a world without without death. I didn't
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know what that totally meant in that context. I just felt like that was
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kind of world we should have, that that would be the end of suffering
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of that nature. Because at an early age, like I said, I
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experienced that kind of suffering. I know many other people, not everyone,
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at some level another experienced that. I'm very conscious of that today. So
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all of that, I just kept pursuing that. That was, like I
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say, in my blood. I at the early age I was sixteen,
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I got into Intrigo yoga. The Master of the teacher was Sri or A
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Bindo, and he was like the Abraham Lincoln of India. He wanted to
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bring together all the Yogi's to use their enlightenment. He said, why why
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are we Why are we gain all this truth and knowledge and enlightenment just to
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compete with each other with it? You know, why don't we use it
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for to create a superbody. Let's join together all of us and create a
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superbody that would not die. That was his passion that really moved at that
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time, because that's that's the stream. It's it's interesting. You probably know
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this yourself. When you really have something you're passionate about, you you know
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it, you draw it, you draw it to you. Well, we're
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all energetic beings, so if you believe in something, it's gonna you're probably
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going to be energetically manifesting that, right. Yeah, So I manifested that
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opportunity. It was a great it was a great experience. I was in
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that for like four to five years. I studied in the Srear Vendo astroom
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in San Francisco. Also there's one here in Sedona, and uh, you
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know, I learned a lot about the focusing energy, you know, because
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that's what Subno was about. To focus that enlightenment and energy on creating a
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body, a human body together said, if we're all pull together, we
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can do this. Well, he wasn't really successful at uniting people from that
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level he brought. He did a lot, he created a lot of it
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made a big impact, but it wasn't you know, it's a very difficult
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thing to unite people and something that they, uh say, haven't really embraced,
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you know, on that level. So so anyway, I kept,
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you know, moving and went to college and and then I met, uh
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my partner, Bernardine and her partner and a partner she was working with at
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that time, Charles Paul Brown in nineteen sixty eight. And they were speaking
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at that time on unlimited lifespans and immortality, saying that that's the true human
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potential for people. And wow, that's great. I love this. And
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I was in college at the time, and I started going to all their
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events. They were living in Colorado, they would come, they would take
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tours through Arizona and other states. Anytime they were here in Arizona, I'd
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see them. Finally, I went to Colorado to one of their events.
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There they had over five hundred people and the event up up in Estes Park,
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Colorado. When I went up, it was a phenomenal event. And
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that was sixty eight, sixty eight. Yes, that's amazing that that movement
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was actually evolving at that early time. That was what how many years ago
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sixty eight to today? Thirty two forty two? What was it? Or
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wait, uh, it is fifty years, right, more than fifty years,
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yeah, more than fifty years. So so yeah, I was really
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really moved by them. And they were touring the states speaking about in this
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subject, and I thought, you know what, that's what I want to
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do. So I was already I was in college, I was studying business,
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but I thought, this is what I want to do. I mean,
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this is the business I want to do. So so I kept going
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to their events wherever they were, and fortunately, finally, you know,
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they asked me to And I was always you know, helping out on things
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with them and programs, they asked me to join them in a tour,
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you know, so so I did that. It was an amazing experience.
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I wasn't speaking much then. I'm more or less write my feelings about you
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know, super longevity and immortality. But then I began to you know,
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where we go to these events because because they always opened up for people to
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express themselves. And so I started speaking with those of the Gradually, in
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nineteen seventy two, we decided to work together. I had a lot of
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experience in business. My dad is a businessman. I wanted to see this
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movement accelerate. So I said, hey, look, I'm going to help
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raise money, you know, for you guys, so you can you know,
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work more full time in this. And that's what I did. I
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created a network of businesses so that you know, they could and consequently eventually
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I could uh work work full time and spreading the news on immortality and unlimited
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and the possibility of unlimited lifespans. So you know, I say that because
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immortality and life and unlimited lifespans, because in our community, you have some
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people, for example, that are really into immortality, you know, unlimited
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lifespans. That's that's me, I'm an immortalist. Then you have others that
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say they just want to live as long as they want to live, and
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they might want a many years to So I have no argument with any of
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that. Whatever people feel, but for sure we need to extend their lifespans
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James, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but that that really triggers something
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in me, which is, you know, death is and survival are negative
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emotions. I mean for some people maybe it is a blessing, but that's
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because they're still in living in that, like you said, limited mindset.
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But how do you go from the negative to the creative, which is the
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immortality? Yeah? Well, you know, to me, I mean,
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first of all, as difficult as it is because of the program that's so
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strong in our bodies, that death is inevitable and and you know you talk
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to most people, and especially back in those days, I mean we had
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a lot of great responses from people, but most people would say, oh,
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there's no scientific proof on that, that's impossible. You know, you
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guys are crazy. Of course, everybody's been called crazy, right that had
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any really advan progressive innovation invention. So that didn't stop me. But but
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you know, so what I experienced in myself was the more I began to
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open myself up, I'll say, to the mindset, lifestand uh, the
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more I felt transformations in my own body. I'm I'm been here seventy six
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years now on this planet, and I feel better than ever, you know,
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really more enthusiastic about living. I see the unlimited possibilities. Uh,
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there's no guarantee, you know, obvious, because no one's really broke through
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what I call that death barrier yet, but it will happen, right,
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I'm moving that it will happen in my time because I want to be a
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pioneer with an arrow on my back. Right. So anyway, Uh,
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then I also experienced that there is a an eight i'll say, potential that
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already lies there in our lays, there in our bodies. Uh, to
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live and unlived Iceman, That's why, that's why really people have sought,
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as you know, from the beginning of time, you know, immortality or
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the fountain of youth innately in our bodies, the desire, right, So,
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so I call that desire the immortal lineage. Okay, m h.
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We tap into that mortal lineage. Okay, Uh, there there's and and
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surrendered to that potential is there in our bodies. I used that word surrender
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because it's not something you have to fight for or struggle. We're so used
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to struggling for everything in our society. This is not something we have to
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struggle for. Uh, that's part of our survival mechanism. Something we have
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to surrender to in our own bodies. This immortal lineage is already there.
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So I had to expressed a couple of years ago of actually having a total
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surrender of that to that in my body. And it happened. Interesting enough.
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I'm not a religious person per se, and this didn't have anything to
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do for me for religion, but I was watching a story called The Chosen
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about Jesus and uh and in it at that time, I was kind of
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hungry for something more, more energy, more resilience for my own body.
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I knew that. I knew that this path that I had chosen for unlimited,
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for an unlimited lifespan, for immortality was something that was uh uh,
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a lot to be reckoned within that It's going to more strength than any of
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us really recognize or are familiar with, more resilience because of all things we
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have to face and living, you know, just you know, the time
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we're here on this planet, the things we have to face much less in
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another one hundred two hundred years, right, So there's a lot to experience
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and go through. So I knew there had to be something more. So
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I was watching this film because I was hungry for something more, and I
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just you know, I just it was a chosen The Life is Jesus,
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and I felt like energy. The actor was so good in it a way
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to portrayed Jesus. I felt a new energy in my body, and I
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went, what's that? What is it? You know? And so as
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I begin to let myself feel that, I thought, well, it feels
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good. Maybe it's just something I'm feeling, you know, right now,
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from this kind of inspirational moment. And but I woke up in the morning
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the short stories, I woke up in the morning fear feeling entirely new.
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After I watched that in my body and I thought, I thought, what
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what what happened there? And been as the days went by, I felt
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better and better all the time. And today that's two years ago. Today
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it's even stronger than me than ever. And what I got in touch with
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is that, uh, through that experience, I think Jesus was the first
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man uh like this. See, this potential has always been there in humankind,
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but I think he was the man human being to actually embrace it,
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actually takes the human body in the way it's never been embraced. Consequently,
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he awakened I use that term, this lineage in the body and enabled it
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for all of us to experience. What I was was the spirit of him,
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of that immortal energy in my body from him right. Well he was
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he was immortal, and he said we were uh, we were cast in
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his image. So at least that's what he hoped. Uh. So you
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know, his crucifixion was just hijacking. Like you once said, I think
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one of your let's say, he was hijacked by unfortunately, you know,
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by detractors who didn't that immortality. But whatever. Yeah, So the way
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I dissept that if I were trying to give somebody an explanation and lay terms
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about what happened to you, I would say, you have a spiritual awakening
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with an energetic If you want to take the science side of it, it
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was an energetic reaction, so you have both the spiritual and the physical.
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And result was, you know, a very It was a mental state at
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first, but it became it manifested into a physical state that has stayed with
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you. And how lucky do you? How lucky are you? I feel
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so blessed. I feel so blessed that and thank you. That was a
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great explanation, a graduation of the experience. Yeah, I got goosebumps when
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you said that. So that's kind of a witnessing, right of the energy.
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Yeah. I just thought that's new energy then and just grow on me
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ever since then, and I started, if you've watched my videos, I'm
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expressing about this all the time, and it's contagious. I mean, I
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have an organization here. At first when I started talking about this, they
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went like, where are you going? You know, there are people who
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you know, still believe that it's kookie and I mean the yirre eccentric that
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you know, they don't quite get the gist of the possibility, so there's
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always going to be that element. But the fact that Radfest, for example,
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has grown to what it is today from twenty sixteen. I think that
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in itself is an example of well, you know, hope, hope lasts.
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We hope that people will always hope, right and as long as we
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have hope in our lives and faith and belief systems, which you were just
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blessed to arrive at the state when you were basically eleven years old, and
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you kept, you know, getting more and more depth and involvement, but
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to find your calling in life. Do you realize how lucky you are that
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you found your calling? And some people go through life and never find what
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they were brought here for and you were given that gift at eleven years old,
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So you know, kudos to you, and kudos to the universe for
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giving you such an amazing opportunity. And here you are today that now inspiring
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with your partner Bernadette. You know other is it Bernadett or Bernadine as Bernadine
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Bernadine? Okay, sorry, but you know that you are inspiring so many
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others. So let me just ask you a philosophical question because it does relate
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to immortality and to the physical side of living forever. Uh, this gets
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into the emotional and the spiritual. How can we as human beings, if
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we are going to live a longer life, let's say, even if it's
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not immortal, but we are going to extend have an extended lifespan, how
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can we be kinder to each other? So that's the world that we're creating
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to live in for all these extra years, is a better place to be?
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That's a that's a great, great question. Thank you, Thank you
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for bringing that up. You know, well, you know, uh yeah,
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I've gone to tremendous depths about this because, as you've been saying,
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I work with a lot of people and work with him close. You know,
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that's one of the reasons I hungered myself to have a deeper experience,
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uh of connection. That's what two years ago when I began to feel what
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I did and then had the experience around Jesus. And you're right, you
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understand a lot of that because the program, even around Jesus has been so
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traumatic for so many people, you know, and really it's been you know,
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he's been used as a figure sometimes and to both uh, you know,
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inspire people and to chastise people, you know, religion and so.
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But the Jesus I'm talking about, I just want to make this clear,
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is that Jesus before, before he was hijacked and a different meaning was given
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to him. I'm talking about this human being like you and I who had
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this passion and love for the flesh. And that what I want to get
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at in your question, it's a confirmation we're never going to feel each other
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and connect with each other from an old place that we've been trying to for
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thousands of years because all separate entities, we've come from different genes. But
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but this opportunity that there's this same lineage that all of us and when we
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each tap into that, we become we become each other's lineage, and then
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there's a love for each other and the kindness that comes out that as it's
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like, you know, you're you're doing under yourself really as you do unto
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others. You do under others as you do under yourself. But there's no
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really my experience, and I've been working this for a long time, you
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know, there's no other I've been working for oneness, you might say,
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and this kind of connection you're talking about for fifty years. And that was
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part of my cry two years ago, was that how do I get a
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deeper connection than what we're happening. It's not been totally there. And that's
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when I realized that are still coming from the mortal lineage that I was born
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into, and from that mortal lineage, we're not connected. You know,
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we're in survival our family. People love their families, but they don't love
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each other. And even sometimes love their families, but the family is the
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most important thing. They don't They don't connect it with the neighbor that way,
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even though even though they in their heart maybe they want to. But
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when we realize that we're and had that surrendered to being the same lineage,
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there's automatic a communion I call it of our bodies that happens that that we
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begin to have a feeling and a passion and a virtue that pours out for
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one another that's never been before. And that's what I'm experiencing. I have
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no fire with anybody. Uh. I used to be trying to struggle with
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people all the time before this, two years before two years ago to get
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him to be immortal. I was ready to I was ready to shake him
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into it right now, accepting that's what it took, because I was so
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at such a strong conviction of it. But today I realized, Wow,
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it's not by as Jesus said, it's not by mind, it's not by
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power. But it's by my spirit, you know, by this spirit and
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love and love. Love, which is the greatest emotion of all of all
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is that of all of what you're describing. So your unconditional love for everyone,
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which you obviously discovered that that night, that you had in you,
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it has allowed you to not be uh, you know, create a version
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or you know. Basically, it's acceptance. You've accepted your place in life
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as a teacher and kind of on a way I don't want to, you
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know, make your head get swelled, but like a prophet in a way,
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and you're spreading the message of something, whether people believe in immortality or
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just say a longer health span and lifespan, even that is a great leap
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of faith because most people are programmed to believe they're going to be born to
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die, you know, and they so how do you calibrate the spiritual with
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the scientific because obviously a lot of the beliefs that you're proposing have a scientific
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basis in fact, and that's what's creating this groundswell in the last let's say,
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ten years of interest in what you're doing because science has basically caught up
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with the belief system. So how do you calibrate that? Yeah, thank
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you, good question too. So let me let me go back to the
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love thing for this one moment because I want to address up that you said
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there. As long as you're coming from immortal love, where you know,
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and you see that all the time people love each other, next next week,
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they don't, they hate each other. Focus. But when we're coming
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from this this lineage, this immortal lineage that Jesus uh captured. Okay,
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it's it's it has no bounds, endless, it's endless, it goes expands,
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it's a lie. So that's the difference immortal love that we were born
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into and immortal love that that we can be, that we can surrender to
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and and and it has no limitations. So I just want to want to
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add that now, as far as science and and the spiritual and the science,
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uh, I I have experienced that it's it's all ours. I use
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that term. Okay, the body, mind, soul are all one.
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And uh, when there's an awakening of the body, for example, Uh,
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we draw to us everything we need. I feel like, Look,
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just to be clear, what I'm talking about of the immortal lineage is is
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like a platform, is the foundation to build this new world on. It's
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not all We're gonna draw to us then the best of science, the best
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information, everything we need to complete this new world. But but it all
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so it all works together, there's no separations. Some people say, oh,
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you know, I believe in the spiritual. I don't believe in the
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science, or I believe in the science. I believe in the spiritual.
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In one sense, it's it's a big miss because we need it all.
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We need it all. First of all, we don't want to live it,
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uh, in this world forever, constantly battling with each other and with
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the threat of total annihilation, right you know. That's that's why I asked
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the environment all the time, and and there's no security in it anyway.
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It's not sustainable exactly. We want to I want a world that we feel
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there's deep spiritual connection of our bodies with each other there's there's deep passion and
26:51
virtue and now and now that we're gonna it's a foundation for us to draw
26:55
everything we need to build on top of that. Mm hmm. So okay,
27:00
So let's talk about some of the specific science and and and and also
27:03
you know, I'm an entrepreneur like you and a businesswoman, and I you
27:08
know, always follow the media on what's happening in the longevity world. And
27:14
you can't help noticing that some of the you know, the the tech billionaires
27:18
are subscribing to investments, big investments in uh, these startups that are focused
27:26
on on not so much immortality. I wouldn't say, I would say longevity,
27:33
healthy living, healthy living. Right. So we've got Jeff Bezos,
27:37
we have uh, Peter Theo, we have Larry Page, we have Michael
27:42
West, we have Peter Diamandis and Tony Robbins and so on and so forth.
27:48
So and you know some of those companies, and I'm sure some of
27:52
them have come to your festival. Correct, Yes, some of those people?
27:56
Okay, so, and and has has have any of them spoken at
28:02
rat Fest? Michael West? Michael West, Okay, a couple of times.
28:06
He's amazing he's really really amazing. You know, you know, oh,
28:10
you're having at rat Fast this year, that is coming on my podcast
28:12
shortly. In fact, you had the reason today that we were able to
28:18
have you on. Is Eric Verdon. Yeah. Yeah, Eric was supposed
28:21
to be on last week and he had to cancel, and he's coming on
28:26
in July. But I have become good friends, and you know he's right
28:30
next door to be's at the Buck Institute. Well, I wouldn't say he's
28:34
one of the tech billionaires. He's certainly one of those cutting edge, out
28:40
in front leading thinkers, along with doctor Lee Hood and doctor Brettison, they've
28:45
all you know, basically their their motto is lived longer, Live better longer,
28:51
so similar to Yeah. So I was so happy to see that he's
28:56
one of your speakers because you know, he basically started as an medical doctor
29:02
at UCSF and I actually asked him about that. I asked doctor Leehood about
29:06
it too. I said, you two are amazing, and I know they've
29:08
influenced each other, but they both started out as traditional allopathic providers at a
29:15
traditional hospital in San Francisco, and look where they are today and what they're
29:21
what they're espousing anyway, so let's go back to the question. I'm sorry
29:26
I digress, but I just you know, I was so excited to see
29:29
that Eric's going to be part of RATST. That'll be a Actually he's coming
29:36
on before Radfast, so I'll make sure I talk about it on a podcast
29:40
interview. So let's go back to the question though about science and the development,
29:45
because obviously this isn't just pie in the sky theory. We're talking about
29:51
actual things that are have occurred in the medical field technologically. Peter Dinamandez Saturday
29:59
for them to years ago, that the last ten years have accomplished more than
30:03
the last hundred years, and that AI and tel ameres and DNA and all
30:10
these things that were not even known in the vocabulary. So these are the
30:15
tool chests, this is the tool chess that you are relying on really for
30:21
the theory of expanded lifespan or possibly immortality. So well, I'm so grateful
30:30
today that these innovations now exist and there being there's more great protocols and innovations
30:37
for longevity coming out all the time. You know, back when I first
30:42
started speaking, you know, and working in this field in nineteen seventy two,
30:48
there wasn't, you know, hardly any science at all. I remember
30:51
one scientist, he was a Nobel Prize winner, Joshua Joshua Ledenbergh was his
30:56
name, and he was speaking in Scosdale where I live here, and but
31:00
you know, as a science agin I could you couldn't get in. But
31:02
the next day in the paper that was back in nineteen seventy four, next
31:06
day in the paper came out Joshua Ledenbergh said immortality as possible in nineteen seventy
31:11
four. So yeah, So I'm so grateful today though, that we are
31:18
where we're at, and there's really some great protocols out there now, gene
31:25
therapies, immune therapies, s analytics, exosomes, stem cells, all these
31:32
great different innovations and protocols that can help us get to the next step.
31:37
I mean, when you're talking about, you know, unlimited lifespans, that's
31:41
because that's what I'm about. That's what rat cuss is about. It's not
31:42
about just healthy living that's about that's important, but it's about with a cutting
31:48
edge of immortality, unlimited lifespands. That's what focus is. So so when
31:56
you're talking about that, you know it's a. Uh, it's a foundational
32:00
thing. Again, it's steps. It's not just like you're going to create
32:04
one innovation and that's gonna be the magic bullet. Okay, some specific,
32:07
great you know, uh, innovations that will take us will take us.
32:10
I'll say a leaps, you know, like a like a like some of
32:14
these gene therapies. Doctor Bill Andrews is working one. Now. You probably
32:17
know him. I told you he's coming on the podcast in the about two
32:23
I think two or three weeks. Yeah, doctor Andrews, and you and
32:29
I talked about him when we spoke earlier. Yeah. So he he's got
32:34
a gene therapy that can reverse aging, you know, to back to biological
32:38
age of twenty five, if if it were completely. And he's already proved
32:42
the concept you know, in the lab. So now just look on to
32:45
human studies. That's that's remarkable. Can you imagine being being say ninety chronologically
32:50
and twenty five biologically. That that's enormous. And he's just looking at funding
32:53
to get that, to get that proven. So many others out there like
32:58
that. That's exciting, you know. I mean I predicted the next one
33:01
to five years, Uh, we're going to have something remarkable and that level
33:07
it's gonna change the world. Now. In the meantime, we have all
33:08
these great innovations that we can use. I use them. I've done set
33:13
aletics, dim cells, extra zomes. Uh, you know, many many
33:16
different my therapies like of that nature. Uh. It's fantastic. They're fantastic.
33:22
And that's why I encourage people like Ray Curswell said, stay alive long
33:25
enough to live forever, because everything is moving so fast that what we know
33:30
today to keep us healthy next year, you know, something to take us
33:35
to that next step, and that it is, uh step our way into
33:39
this new world. Uh. Ray Curswell recently and in his new book,
33:45
Uh you know, well you just put it out. It's called uh I'll
33:52
shoot it's it's about being closer to uh this new age of immortality. Yeah,
34:00
it'll come to me. But he speaks in the very strongly, and
34:04
he spoke at rather fast about this last year that in twenty and thirty we're
34:09
going to be entering into the era of immortality. I know he said that
34:16
six years. Yeah, his predictions, and he's been very accurate in a
34:22
lot of his predictions. So whether that whatever, that looks like at that
34:25
time, whether it's you know, uploading ourselves into the cloud, you know
34:30
that there'll be different steps and people are going to you know, what's kind
34:35
of nice in one sense, I'll use this term, it's kind of nice
34:38
that there's gonna be different options for people, depending upon their situation, to
34:43
experience an unlimited lifespan or at least a long time to live. And because
34:50
this time we have now on this planet is almost an atrocity really to book
34:57
all of our lives, get seventy, you know, sixty seven years old
35:00
and begin to ciate and everything because the fall apart, the same thing with
35:04
people around you. It's horrible. It's horrible. You love to ciate,
35:10
and not only that to really no one's replaceable, but you see all these
35:15
people that we lose, right, and it just shouldn't be. And so
35:21
that's what we're doing. So much of it is life choices, which we
35:24
can get deeper into that because we do need to break down how some people
35:31
do live a longer life in a healthier life while others deteriorate. And there
35:37
are you know, very methodical things that people can do, and we've talked
35:43
about many of those subjects on my podcast, which you know, of course
35:46
his diet and nutrition and stress and sleep and all of that. But one
35:54
thing I did want to say to you, and it's something that's been bothered
36:00
me lately and I just need to put it out there. Well before before
36:04
I get to that, though, I do want to say that Mark Twain
36:07
said how old would you be if you didn't know how old you were?
36:12
And I love that because so if he ask you that, what would you
36:15
say? How do I be if I didn't know how? You know?
36:20
I always say anyways that I'm ageless. Okay, well, that's why you're
36:23
on my podcast, because that's how I got the name because people ask me
36:27
all the time, Oh, Michelle, how old are you? And I
36:29
would say I would never answer them, and I would say I'm ageless and
36:32
timeless. And then when I came around to thinking, how do I make
36:36
this into something that will help others because it's my belief system, that's how
36:40
the name came about. So yeah, so you're ageless and I'm ageless,
36:44
so we're both very lucky. Yeah, these numbers can have a power over
36:47
you, you know, thinking and you see this all the time in our
36:52
society. You know, twenty year old thinks he's got to be like everybody
36:55
else that's twenty. Then same thing with the thirties, forties, and then
36:59
pretty soon may all kind of imitate each other and they don't want to get
37:02
out of the box because they don't want to be thought of as different.
37:05
Many times, and then as you begin to mature and you get to say
37:09
in your seventies or eighties or whatever, you know, people see you as
37:13
a certain way there you're old, and they talk to you even a different
37:15
way on the phone where they think they think you're you know, over seventy.
37:20
They're going, Hi, honey, old person, I'm saying, what
37:24
the hell do you want? Right exactly? Yeah, well, very lucky.
37:30
A lot of people in James the difference between biological and chronological age,
37:36
and I think it's really important somebody, you know, if you are not
37:39
going to answer I'm ageless, you could certainly give a number for your biological
37:45
age, because I'm sure you know what that is, and you know that
37:47
it's always getting better every year because you're doing more and more experimenting. But
37:55
it's just something that I do think people are stuck on age and chronological age
38:01
and more than anybody now because for the first time in my life, I
38:07
was married, you know, for forty plus years. Met my husband when
38:12
we were fourteen, and unfortunately he passed away. So now I'm a single
38:17
woman in the dating world, and suddenly age becomes relevant, which it wasn't
38:22
really to me at all, because I was just every year was getting better.
38:25
I always said I might be a year older, I've been around the
38:29
sun another year, but I'm getting better and I'm getting younger all the time.
38:32
So there was that belief system. You tend to manifest that reality.
38:37
But when you're single, you know, if you're on a dating site,
38:40
that's the first thing people want to know. It's crazy. Yeah, you
38:45
know, we have so much age president and this was unfortunate, but well,
38:50
but also I freed myself. I don't mind saying my age, you
38:52
know, because I free myself from the consciousness of that. Yeah. Well
38:59
that say, when when you when all things, when you're pure of heart,
39:01
all things are made whole, you know, And it's something about knowing
39:06
who you are. But I don't relate to it all the time. I
39:07
don't think about my birthdays. I don't think it's old. I don't think
39:12
about you know, I'm just going by and I dress how I feel.
39:15
I don't dress like I'm supposed to age wise. That's another maybe all the
39:20
times saying oh I can't wear that, I'm too old for that, right,
39:23
and that's a big mistake. You got to dress that's how you feel.
39:28
Don't care what other people think. Correct, Well, let me go
39:30
back before I forget to go say what was bothering me? Okay? Because
39:36
I want to be bother me? Yeah? What's bothering me is all of
39:40
these things that you and I are both very passionate about with exo zone,
39:45
stem cells, DNA methylation, telemere testing, you know, on and on
39:52
and on, all the things as analytics. Uh, they're not currently affordable
39:59
to masses, and and and I feel very what's the word, I feel
40:06
very compromised by that because I want more insurance won't cover these things. And
40:10
we know that our insurance industry is all about allopathic covering sickness, not health.
40:16
So you know, how how what's your what is your thinking about?
40:22
How to make all of these protocols available in the future so more and more
40:28
people can be immortal? Okay? Yeah, thank you for bringing that up.
40:32
That's a that's a big thing. Uh. And I get that question
40:36
a lot. So as you know, I mean, these guys who put
40:42
out, for the most part, these extraordinary protocols. It costs a lot
40:45
of money, a lot of money to do the laboratory work. And even
40:49
if and then if they get FDA approval on it, it's it's enormous to
40:52
cost. Okay, unfortunately, so we have that to deal with. But
40:57
same time, it's like a cell phone. Right when it first came out,
41:00
you know, no one could afford it. I remember having a big
41:04
you know, the first one, the big old thing like this you had
41:06
to hold up. I get to like, it is not affordable. Even
41:12
the week the weekly build on it was horrible, you know, but I
41:15
had to use it sometimes in my business. So but anyway that the more
41:17
people that bought that, then the more people that got out there, the
41:21
lower prices. Now we're holding this thing that you can get for many times
41:24
a few hundred dollars. That's the strongest computer ever made. Fifty time is
41:30
stronger than the first computer. Is amazing, what it could just it's miraculous
41:32
to have this thing right in our hands changed all of our lives. This
41:37
is the same thing will happen with all these protocols now. But another thing
41:40
that's important and that we're doing the people unlimited we're doing. We're doing collective
41:45
purchasing. Okay, So when there's a protocol out and this is something that
41:51
we should joint together more in our community, is right. So I for
41:55
one hundred people, for example, all want to get say, uh,
42:00
some particular cineletic or exosomes. In fact, in fact, uh you might
42:06
you might have heard of this. You know doctor Kaufman. You know doctor
42:09
Kaufman who I'm talking about? You? You and I spoke about Andrew Kaufman.
42:15
Yeah, I mean a woman. She's a woman. Yeah. She
42:17
was here a couple of weeks ago in Scotsdale and they did an exo zone
42:21
plenty and because a bunch of us that wired them, they could they could
42:24
do him for about a third of the price. Oh interesting, everybody got
42:29
some. It was excellent. So this is how we do here. And
42:32
I want to see that more happened at radfast Uh yeah, collecting and and
42:38
and it benefits the provider too because more people are buying it. Consequently,
42:44
they can lower the price, so like they're purchasing more for those who want
42:49
to participate, right, that's bad. So how did people join People Unlimited?
42:54
If they're interested as as you know, A, yeah, they can
42:59
go on our site People are Limited dot Com okay, and they can come
43:02
any time either in person or online free right now, okay, just to
43:07
see experience it, see if it's for them. But we're creating an amazing
43:13
community here. And one of the benefits is Whi's what I'm talking about life
43:15
intention For example, we get all their products wholesale. I don't take anything
43:21
from that. I just pass it onto the participants wholesale, okay, And
43:24
this it was people to get all these things at a much cheaper price.
43:28
That's that's one of the benefits of being a member of People are Limited.
43:31
Come online, People Limited dot Com. They'll show you exactly there how how
43:37
to get online. Will send you a link, or you can come in
43:39
person, which is always better, right to be in person and you can
43:44
see what we're really about and experience it and see if it's for you.
43:45
Then you can join the membership. And how often do you meet? Twice
43:50
a week? Oh twice a week? Oh my goodness, I'm serious,
43:53
We're serious. I mean, I don't understand this thing is when if you're
43:59
really serious about something, you know you're you're going to be dedicated to it.
44:02
And look, we spend ninety percent of our time. I mean that's
44:06
twice a week for total of about four hours okay, two hours of each
44:10
event. All right. We have a weekend events, three day weekend event
44:15
every month, and we have two week long events through the year. But
44:17
even if you take on this the hours for that, that's only about five
44:22
percent of your time completely. And why wouldn't we dedicate at least five percent
44:27
of our time to unlimited life. Oh my goodness, this is so amazing.
44:31
Well, colp me in. I'm going to ask you to tell me
44:35
how to I just go online and I look at people unlimited it. Yeah,
44:37
come online and you can come on. You can come right on our
44:40
inline. We have a really great online system. You can actually participate,
44:45
you can talk, you'll hear us really good. You can be involved with
44:47
events. You know, see if it's for you. You know, you
44:50
hear what we're doing. We're very you know, we're a combination of what
44:54
you would call spiritual, inspirational, and science and great man and then we
45:00
have all these benefits that we were all sharing, you know, information on
45:04
and doing these protocols. Well, I love the fact that you're looking at
45:07
the economics and that you're looking out for the population at large rather than an
45:14
elite group of people who have the financial resources to afford this. But that's
45:21
only about one percent of the population, and that's certainly not going to make
45:23
a title wave in the movement of immortality if you don't reach the larger group.
45:31
So so good for you. Yeah, I looked into joining Tony Robbins
45:37
the Fountain of Life Life Force book after I read it, and you know,
45:42
I spoke with them, and you know, they're opening up in Santa
45:45
Monica this next year in twenty twenty five. But just to walk in the
45:49
door, it's twenty five grand, you know, it's like an initiation fee,
45:52
and then you have to pay a la carte for all the individual So
45:58
this is this is really not for the larger population, and that that's what
46:04
kind of turned me thinking, you know about this, And of course idea
46:07
was all kinds of practitioners who I know, what they charge and what they
46:12
have to charge. Like you said, it costs a lot of money.
46:15
So yeah, it's such a this is such a powerful subject because look,
46:20
to me, this is you know, I don't I don't begrudge you know,
46:22
Tony, and now they what they're doing, they're doing what they're doing.
46:24
But really, to me, this is the people's movement, all right,
46:28
Yeah, this is a people's movement, and we did start thinking of
46:30
each other. Everybody can benefit, you know, we don't have to.
46:36
You know, I'll say the greedy about something, not saying they're greedy.
46:40
I'm just saying, you know, what's really most important is to get these
46:45
protocols to the people, to the public in an affordable way so everybody benefit,
46:52
because then we're going to change the world. I'm so happy to hear
46:55
you saying this. I hear you saying, yeah, if we outprice them,
46:59
if we make them hard for other people to get on that level and
47:02
keep it, you know, to like an exclusive club. You know,
47:06
it can have its benefits and growing. I mean, they're going to do
47:07
what they do. But really this is the people's movement and the people uh
47:14
getting this and that's what they do here. People are limited. We get
47:16
it that we by moving together and we can we create a collective energy and
47:22
movement and an economy that everybody can benefit. So let's dissect some of these
47:27
protocols so that people understand what is available for you know, anti world I
47:34
don't use I don't like the word anti aging. I like longevity because anti
47:37
just and negative negation. But however, American Academy of Anti Aging I'm very
47:45
fond of. I've been a member there for many many years, so they
47:47
know they have a name. But that and how how first before we get
47:52
into the protocols, how do you distinguish yourself access from American Academy of Anti
48:00
Aging. Well, American Academy of Anti Aging APH for M is a educational
48:05
program start out for doctors. Yeah, aging. I think it's a great
48:08
company, a great great business, great organization. Uh. I've been to
48:14
it and lot friends go to it, and it's what it is for anti
48:17
aging and more and more they're talking about longevity products. Uh. But we're
48:22
different from the standpoint that I'm a big believer. You have to, like
48:27
I said before, you have to have this good foundational The bet the more
48:30
found good foundational health you've got, the better advanced protocols are Going to Work
48:37
podcast is really about like I said, it's not about anti aging. Really,
48:40
it's not about you know, healthy living. It's about ending aging and
48:45
death. Because aging is a disease that can stared. I think you start
48:52
to understand that it's not inevitable, that it's a disease just like other diseases
48:55
that are out there, and there are ways to cure that disease. So
49:00
that awareness creates an opening, uh and a belief system that you obviously you've
49:06
subscribed to since age eleven. But not a lot of people, you know,
49:10
don't understand that until later in life, if they ever do. So.
49:15
So let's let's let's dissect some of these protocols. So let's take a
49:20
typical day for you. When you wake up in the morning. What's the
49:22
first thing you do? That's a good one. Okay, So the first
49:28
thing I do is I do breathing exercises and stretches. I actually go out
49:36
my back door here, which I'm blessed to have sunshine most every day,
49:39
Open my arms the sunshine, you know, give give thanks for and gratefulness
49:45
for uh, having health and being alive and having great friends. I just
49:49
take a moment for that, and then then I go on my patio out
49:53
here. I have some dogs. I bring them out in the patio.
49:55
I sit down there for a little while and just kind of meditate, get
50:00
my get myself, you know, feel the feel, the feel the spirit
50:04
moving to my body, get in touch with that. And then I start
50:07
taking uh my, you know, I probably take about through the day.
50:13
I'm taking probably about it changes all the time because I rotate them. But
50:16
I take about fifty different supplements. But they're all based on blood tests,
50:21
right. And then I'll do more more. I'll do uh infra red sauna
50:29
most days I have. I'll do some swimming off and on swimming, or
50:35
I'll now it's getting hot, so I swim when it's not hot. I'll
50:37
either ride my bountain bike or by doing something that moved my body a lot.
50:43
Every day. I don't just sit Mike. I'll sit here with you
50:45
for an hour, but after you go out in the back, I'll stretch.
50:50
I might jump on my trampoline a little bit. Moving The more you
50:53
you move, the more you're sitting, the signal to your body that you're
50:57
going to keep moving. Okay, run the middle things. Then I'm all
51:00
Then I'm researching. I'll spend time, uh most days researching some of the
51:06
newest protocols. I'm I'm you know, privy to allow the doctors and scientists
51:08
in the network. You know, they'll contact me to or send me,
51:12
send me emails about what they're doing. So I'm privy to some of the
51:15
newest stuff coming out. I'll look at it for myself, like one of
51:19
the one of the things that have been around for a little while, but
51:22
there's always being more advancement in it is a young blood exchange, and so
51:27
a lot of doctors are working on that now I'm thinking about doing that.
51:31
I'm still investigating that. So I'm always investigating that next best thing. And
51:36
I'm a playing you know, risk versus benefit. Right, you don't do
51:44
anything, okay, the risk is very high that we're going to deteriorate.
51:49
Sometimes some of these are new things we're doing, so we have to evaluate
51:52
and good to say, oh, okay, is this going to benefit me
51:54
more? Then? I mean, maybe I'm going to you know, have
51:59
loose bowel movements for a while from it, okay, from that for example,
52:02
but as the benefit a lot a lot greater. And then and then
52:06
when when that side effect gets over, am I going to benefit a lot?
52:09
You know? You know is one of the big you know, challenges
52:13
in that way because it can you know, you have great benefits on your
52:15
body, but then it can also affect your your you know, your your
52:20
kidneys and other things sometimes if you don't take it right. But you have
52:24
to find out for yourself, does the risk you know, warrant the benefit
52:30
correct? Yeah, Well, our topogy is another one of those hot buttons
52:36
today, and particularly with what's going on with the semi glue ties and and
52:40
the g l P one agonists. So people you know, going in for
52:45
sugar for diabetes, but they're getting a benefit with weight loss, so but
52:51
they're also getting many are getting cyclopedia and but many food companies are upset because
52:58
the people aren't buying as food at the grocery store because of the autophogy.
53:04
The you know, the people are just basically fasting without even really wanting to
53:08
or knowing enough that they don't want to. They do, they want to
53:12
lose weight, but sometimes they actually want to eat but they can't. It's
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very it's a very strange phenomenon what's going on with the whole I understand understand
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when I get out in line with you here, I'm going to be going
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to a company called Osteo Strong. Are you smire with them? No?
53:29
No, this is amazing. This is amazing. It's about a fifteen minute
53:32
exercise circuit. Four different machines that are computerized and there's that to be able
53:37
to trigger bones, bone strength, and bone growth. Okay, and since
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I've been doing it, I've been doing it for about two years now.
53:47
After the first three months I did, I did a bon Dincy test and
53:52
my boneency test increased about twenty percent. Sact opinion anything your your muscle,
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your bones are what helps keep your whole structure. Scales are structure you know
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good and it's very important for muscle strength too. And so so I've been
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doing that now for two years, one day a week, that's all.
54:12
It takes about fifteen minutes, right, have min la Okay, they're going
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now across the country. The guy who invented that has spoken at ray Fast
54:21
a couple of times, amazing science on it. And yeah, so I'm
54:24
just saying that too. It's a key thing for any of us as we
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mature, very important to not get osteoporosis. And if you do, this
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could also help a lot with that, a lot with that, strengthening your
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bones, getting new bone growth. And since I've been doing that for two
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years, I'm stronger than ever and I don't have any joints that ache.
54:45
You know, another thing we face as we age is loose joints. So
54:49
yeah, joints. Yeah, no, it keeps your tendon strong, so
54:54
yeah, so it's great, James, how do you spell the OSTEO R
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oh E R okay r O n G Austin Bone Strength? And who is
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who is the founder? His name is oh? I leave his name now,
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shoot, I'll look it up. It's okay. He's in there.
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He'll be on the he'll be on the site. Carl. Carl is his
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first name, Carl. Okay, I might want to have him on the
55:27
podcast. I speaker. He is a very good speaker. And this protocol
55:32
is amazing and and and it's relatively inexpensive. It's right. Well, it's
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available for about two hundred bucks a month. Yeah, yeah, so I
55:45
use the power play. Are you familiar with that? Yes? Yeah?
55:49
Is that is that similar in terms of the It is similar. It's good.
55:54
I got that too. I got one of those. I don't think
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it's as good as the actual machine results, but it's still good. I
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mean, it's good doing that well. I mean I think it's good for
56:07
ATP right, because I don't know about I assume that would ultimately affect the
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bone strength, but the ATP of the muscles. You know, when when
56:15
you're using vibration, you're getting far more power for the same movement that you
56:22
might do if you were not using it. So talk about the vibration plate,
56:27
right. Yeah, it's called the power play. I have one of
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those two. They're great. I do that every day too. Yeah.
56:32
And I also do you have a fire infrared sauna? I use it every
56:37
single day that I when I'm here when I'm not traveling. So I also
56:42
have a hyperbaric chamber. Have you used that at all? Yes? I
56:45
have. They're great. We have a really good, uh one that's opened
56:50
up a company here in town that I musa start going to soon. But
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I've had I've done it several times, and you can buy it for home
56:57
your home. Mine is a vertical one. I don't like the horizontal because
57:00
you feel like you're getting into a Coston ones are really great, and that
57:07
you can have two people in there if you want. But are pretty reasonable.
57:14
Sorry, are the vertical ones price wise pretty reasonable? Yeah? I
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think I paid like it was. I got one from a friend who had
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used it, and then she had a clinic and she wanted to upgrade,
57:25
so she was buying bigger ones, so I bought her a smaller one.
57:29
But mine, I think was like used, was about eleven thousand. But
57:32
you have to buy the concentrator. So the combination of the concentrated which which
57:37
is where you get the oxygen, and the actual tent that you sit in
57:42
with a mask, I think for me, so normally I think they'd be
57:46
about seventeen thousand. I mean, it's a big investment. But you know,
57:52
the science on hyperbarics is profound, it is sure, that's true.
58:00
So okay, so what supplements would you not be without? Wow? Wow?
58:06
Well, you know, Live Decision Foundations put out a really good pyramid
58:10
regarding that, and they're recommending, you know, everybody is different, Okay,
58:17
ones that everybody should do. That was I'm just reading that this morning
58:23
actually, and that was C yeah, and uh an E, vitamin A
58:31
yeah, vitamin D yeah, well mega yeah, Okay, there might be
58:38
one more people that was slimmium maybe, but those are they everyone should do
58:44
those. And then that pyramid goes up to the next level and everybody has
58:47
to do the blood work to get what they should do on that next level.
58:52
And then the third top level is all the things that you want to
58:55
try or say do that to to advance your health. Often ways that would
59:00
be more sometimes you know, experimental or risk versus benefit type. Yeah,
59:07
the D on the D, I think they make sure that the D and
59:12
K D three and K two are combined because they really are a one two
59:16
punch and people should not be taking D three without K two because K two
59:22
helps you get the calcium to move rather than stay in the in the hot,
59:28
you know, which could cause calcification if you just did the D three.
59:32
But it's funny. It's funny you didn't mention any minerals in that first
59:37
level. All vitamins and and of course fish oils. I'm trying to think
59:42
there was a mineral there, you know, fundamentally well, soleni solenium.
59:47
But yes, some people uh get get a lot of their minerals from their
59:53
food obviously, but I think that's in the second level where you do your
59:57
blood work and mineral as you lack and you go from there. Then as
1:00:02
it was at the bottom, right, well, I think unfortunately I wanted
1:00:07
to go further with that because it's it's fascinating, and also with all these
1:00:12
protocols like stem cells. You and I spoke about the stem cells and just
1:00:16
before we close, what what what would you say is the difference between us
1:00:21
doing stem cells and EXI zones and which would you prefer? That's a big
1:00:25
controversy. I know who Kaufman was just here, doctor doctor Kaufman. She
1:00:35
was saying that, you know, she likes she likes exosome She thinks that
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they are the you know, they're the signaling UH system of stem cells,
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and she thinks they're more overall effective. But then you know, obviously you
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talked to a stem cells specialist. They like the stem cells. H I
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think I think there's different you know, from my experience, of course,
1:01:00
this is the break still out on this, there's different applications for them.
1:01:07
I know Tony Robbins talks about a stem style treatment he got on his shoulder
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when he had that ski accident did amazing for him. I mean he tried
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everything else, right, and his father, remember he took his father.
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I think excell the whole body. Yeah, So anyway, I think you
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have to get in touch with what I'm stunt peptides, which are the new
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darling of the anti of the longevity movement. Right, all the is a
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bit confusing. We won't even go there, but before we go, I
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want to just let everybody know your amazingly generous gifts to our viewers. So
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But I do live in San Francisco, so you can call me on West
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Coast time, specific time. Okay, Well, James, I don't know
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how you feel, but I feel like this was an amazing conversation. Michelle.
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You're great to converse with. Thank you very much. And last thing
1:03:21
I want to say is they come to rat best. It will change your
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And I'm really looking forward to being with you, James, and so
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I am going to contact you offline to arrange for that and start getting my
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meet in person. So thank you again for being so kind today to give
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all of your thoughts and your enthusiasm and just all your loving energy. It's
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it's really quite gratifying to have someone like you share all those belief systems that
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are going to affect our life in a very positive way. So take care
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and have a beautiful day.