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Club 520 - Damian Lillard on playing w/ Giannis, Russell Westbrook battles, Steph Curry, NBA Top 75 · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The volume. All right, we're back another episode of Club
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  Speaker 1: five to twenty podcasts. Were on the road for a
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  Speaker 1: special guest. We got me in a special place.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: We pulled up to Phoenix one time for the camp
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  Speaker 1: long away the episode. Man, they've been asking about him.
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  Speaker 1: Happy we could deliver. But to my far left, we
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  Speaker 1: got my dog Bi should be hearing out the pearles.
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  Speaker 2: How you was.
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  Speaker 3: Nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to her baby.
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  Speaker 2: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, he got a uniform so
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  Speaker 1: you dont get him out of uniform and yo shoes.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big deal with you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Three strips forever to make sure it's straight. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 3: he got the lady change the lacers in there. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I freaked them out. I made them me sure that's
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  Speaker 3: your flavor.
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  Speaker 2: Run for show.
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  Speaker 1: To my right and my dog young not your young tig.
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  Speaker 2: How you are man Schilling?
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  Speaker 4: Man, I'm like, we got one of the special players
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  Speaker 4: in the bill on top seventy five. Person, I'm a
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  Speaker 4: huge fan of I'm really shitty. I ain't get that colorway,
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  Speaker 4: but I may you know what I'm saying, A big
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  Speaker 4: three player this league.
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  Speaker 1: Hey say, man, we talk about this. Good to see
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  Speaker 1: you back in in the three strikes, Man.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta work something now with Jy'll. I'm
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  Speaker 4: about to go on my little rent like Bassie, shut
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  Speaker 4: up to the guy.
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  Speaker 3: We love you, we love you, we love you, but.
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  Speaker 1: Till my left.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: We got a special special guest man, one of the
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  Speaker 1: coats to touch a basketball, like my bro said, top
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  Speaker 1: seventy five and he get busy off the court. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, music going crazy and if you
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  Speaker 1: do too much, you know what I'm saying. The hands
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  Speaker 1: is legit too. We got wanted the coachters to ever
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  Speaker 1: do it. Dame Dalla Damian Little appreciate you sliding on
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  Speaker 1: this big.
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  Speaker 2: Dog for sure. Bro, appreciate you all having a.
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  Speaker 1: Long time coming.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: People been asking for this episode, you know something, trying
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  Speaker 1: to make an all star, but know that the weather
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  Speaker 1: was too crazy.
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  Speaker 2: We got straight to it, man, But.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, we gotta start with the origins with you, man,
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  Speaker 1: because yo, yo, let your history, by your your career
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  Speaker 1: is so crazy. Be here. We got to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the high school days.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I want to tap in with you. What's
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  Speaker 3: the let's go back all the way to you. Was
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  Speaker 3: you rocking with the guys or did you just know
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  Speaker 3: wink up with some guys that was already nice in
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  Speaker 3: the city with the rebels.
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  Speaker 1: No, that was like my childhood neighborhood type program. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like I started with him in elementary school.
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  Speaker 2: And ship.
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  Speaker 1: That was like my first real friends outside of my
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  Speaker 1: cousins and my family. So shit, it was once I
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  Speaker 1: start getting nice then like the Soldiers and all those
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  Speaker 1: other you know, Nora Cali Lee. We had a couple
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  Speaker 1: other like programs that was sponsored. They was getting all
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  Speaker 1: the shoes. Yeah, but then I was like like these
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  Speaker 1: my people.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's hard, bro.
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  Speaker 2: I stayed with the team. Uh shit. We was in
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  Speaker 2: the lower level tournaments.
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  Speaker 1: Then we got older, we started getting into the other
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  Speaker 1: ones because we was like way better.
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  Speaker 2: But that was it. I stayed with the local program.
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  Speaker 3: Him. Got a similar story guys too. That's why I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about that.
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  Speaker 4: I did that, but yeah, I switched my senior year.
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  Speaker 4: Rock was the guys like that, Bro, I wasn't getting offers.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I forgo this out. Now we had
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  Speaker 4: the same team. We just went to one of those
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  Speaker 4: sponsored teams. That's all it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't half we didn't, I ain't getting no
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  Speaker 1: offers to the very last summer.
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  Speaker 2: That's me. I was going to your senior year jump down.
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  Speaker 3: Who was your first one?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that was my first offer.
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  Speaker 1: I remember we had uh we played against this dude
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  Speaker 1: that was from Texas, only remember his name. But it
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  Speaker 1: was a nine am game. We get there. It was empty,
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  Speaker 1: we was there was literally our team.
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  Speaker 2: They team.
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  Speaker 1: It was another game next to us, and it was
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  Speaker 1: one coach there that was a coach from Weaver, but
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  Speaker 1: he was there to see me and the other dude
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  Speaker 1: that game.
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  Speaker 2: They just offered me right after the game. Killed buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, took his spot. That was the story right there.
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  Speaker 1: It was over fast too. I've seen one coach. That
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  Speaker 1: was the first time a coach ever came our game.
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  Speaker 3: Too, So I was like crazy, damn. See I was
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  Speaker 3: just playing in front of Auntie's uncles.
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  Speaker 2: Not even that for real. Nobody we was in Oakland.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody came, but on it was just us.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So for you to go to that head un til
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  Speaker 1: same year, it should start going crazy for you. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you already made that decision he was rocking with. Weaver stated,
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  Speaker 1: because they showed interested you early. How was it going
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  Speaker 1: to your like getting to college after that crazy high
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  Speaker 1: school career.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when I got there, it was it was cool,
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  Speaker 2: Like everybody was cool.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They was just telling me like, man, you gotta earn
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  Speaker 1: your spot. And I remember thinking like, man, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: the best player they'd had come here in a minute,
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  Speaker 1: and they like, you know you missed class, were sending
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  Speaker 1: you home. It was just hella, damn. They just ran
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  Speaker 1: a tight shit, you know what I'm saying. It was
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  Speaker 1: first day I got there in the summer, it was conditioning,
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  Speaker 1: we running stadiums, all this crazy shit, and I remember
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  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like, shit, I don't think I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Really cut for this. It's just crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Like I remember dying after conditioning and thinking like I
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  Speaker 1: really don't know if this shit is gonna work out
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  Speaker 1: because this crazy.
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  Speaker 2: If this would it take?
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  Speaker 1: So I got through the first day we started playing pickup.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't score, Like everybody was stronger, faster, I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get nothing done. So that was kind of when the
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  Speaker 1: transition for me started. I was like, all right, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta I got to answer the call like this shit
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  Speaker 1: harder than I thought it was gonna be. And then
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  Speaker 1: from there it was that was it, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I came off the bench like the first
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  Speaker 1: four or five games, and uh, then I got to
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  Speaker 1: the starting lineup. They had me at the two, and
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  Speaker 1: then the guy who was starting at the one.
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  Speaker 2: He actually here at camp.
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  Speaker 1: He was like five six, five seven, but he was
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  Speaker 1: just a straight score. And then they they switched us.
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  Speaker 1: They made me the point guard in him the two
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  Speaker 1: because I was more like a playmaker scorer and he
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  Speaker 1: was just getting buckets. And when they switched us, that's
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  Speaker 1: when that's when shit change. That's crazy. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: you getting recruited, you know what I'm saying. They tell you, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you the best. We can't wait till you get here,
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  Speaker 1: and you get there like you ain't really shit, you
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  Speaker 1: are your spot and on for real.
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  Speaker 2: For real.
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  Speaker 4: Me and him got a very similar story because that's
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  Speaker 4: how I was awake for us. I ain't started my
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  Speaker 4: first five six games. We had it'sh Smith, So it
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  Speaker 4: was started at the point and then I came in
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  Speaker 4: playing the two, and like you said, it kind of
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  Speaker 4: switched even though this was I was more of a
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  Speaker 4: score than this, but he broke his foot. That's how
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  Speaker 4: I got a chance to play point. But I was
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  Speaker 4: just thinking. I'm like, shit, you was a past first
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  Speaker 4: one ship. I know you for buckets because the first
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  Speaker 4: time I seen when you was at Weber State.
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  Speaker 2: It's my guy, Lou, I'll never forget.
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  Speaker 4: I think it might have been your junior year because
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  Speaker 4: my brother was a senior in high school, I think,
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  Speaker 4: and he was like, it's this dude a Weaver State.
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  Speaker 4: That's nasty. And I was like he nasty. Was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: he reminds me of like Stephan them at Day Davidson.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this nigga gassing now, Like I ain't
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  Speaker 4: going for all that. Then he was like, no, you
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  Speaker 4: gotta watch you. So he the game came on, y'all
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  Speaker 4: came on latest. Hell, we watched it and you were
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  Speaker 4: shooting fadeaways. I'm like, buddy, got the greed. He wilding
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  Speaker 4: like he wilding here, but you have bounced. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: he was like, bro, he gonna go top five. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, wait for State.
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  Speaker 3: He like.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, they ain't playing nobody. He was like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you tripping, bro, watch what he's doing. And then the
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  Speaker 4: next year, my brother was in the draft and I
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  Speaker 4: never forgot like, you gotta go against this dude named
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  Speaker 4: Dang You gotta get to work out with him.
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  Speaker 2: That nigga to me and said, I ain't about.
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  Speaker 1: To work out against him. Said he was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: he going top five working out against him. I was
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  Speaker 1: like going top five.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, he liked that. He said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: seen you at Adida's Nations.
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  Speaker 1: That bro, That's that's the funniest story because when I
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  Speaker 1: nobody knew who I was at Adida's Nation yet he
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  Speaker 1: was telling me that. But I seen like all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously I knew who all them niggas was, but when
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  Speaker 1: I got there, everybody was like just staring at me,
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  Speaker 1: like who is Like, because they all knew each other,
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  Speaker 1: I was the only person nobody knew. So I remember
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  Speaker 1: one day I see them all like on the baseline,
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  Speaker 1: like in the group, and they all talking and they
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  Speaker 1: just kind of like looking at me. So I'm just
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: kind of staring back, like, man, this is one of
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  Speaker 1: the moments I got to stay in my ground, like
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  Speaker 1: they all friends, Like, I don't know if they think
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  Speaker 1: I'm a.
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  Speaker 2: Sucker or something like.
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  Speaker 1: So they all had their little talk or whatever, and
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: then Will Barton walked over there like, hey, like you
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  Speaker 1: de Ro's cousin. Like they thought I got in camp.
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  Speaker 1: I was a de Ro's cousin. I'm like, nah, I
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  Speaker 1: go to weeper. They're like okay. I'm like so the
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: whole time, I'm thinking they talking shit or something. They
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  Speaker 1: thinking I'm in camp because I'm de Ro's cousin. Like
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  Speaker 1: that's how they thought I got in camp.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Brother told me.
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  Speaker 4: They was like, bro, he was so cold, and he
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  Speaker 4: was like, nah, he cold. And then you went, nah,
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: I played you my rookie. Yeall, never forget cause now
• 8:36
  Speaker 4: I always had this thing about rookies. I'm like, if
• 8:38
  Speaker 4: I can kill him the first time, it's gonna be
• 8:41
  Speaker 4: in his head a little bit when we playing. And
• 8:43
  Speaker 4: I seen you watch you sat there, you and DV
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: y'all sit there before the game and like watch people
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: warm up. I'm like, why are you watching me?
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: Like what are you going? Like?
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm about to get in his head.
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  Speaker 4: So I start woman up for you know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: even warm up part start woman apart.
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  Speaker 2: Shooting like yeah, he would pay me No. He was like.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I'm going at him
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  Speaker 4: first place. I'm telling people like, hey, we're gonna see
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: you can hoop. I'm like, damn, this nigga cold. He
• 9:09
  Speaker 4: gave me with that Kyrie Mom. Remember when I called
• 9:11
  Speaker 4: you about Kyrie. I called my brother. I said, Hey,
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: the dude, dang man, he gonna be raw books done.
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  Speaker 2: He about to be the one. And after that it
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: was over with. I was like, yeah, it's over with.
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  Speaker 2: He don't want.
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, man, It's crazy for you to say that
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: because I'm thinking the same thing against you, Like I remember, like,
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: shit you Darren Collison. It was people that they never
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: was talking about like that. I'm like, these these are
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: the matchups that be the hard matchups, like fast getting
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: to the rim, you got the balls.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: So it's like, it's crazy for me to hear you
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  Speaker 2: say that.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: When we come into the game and they like, you know,
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Jeff t you know he fast, he can shoot, hes
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be coming off and transition you gotta stand. I'm like, damn,
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be a tough one going drag it.
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  Speaker 1: It was the same thing like you had them matchups
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: for it was like them the ones people ain't talking about.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna tell you about c P and Darren Williams,
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: but it's them nights where you show up and it's
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: like it's a it's a tough matchup.
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: I got this question, man, why the hell did you wears?
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  Speaker 2: Bro don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from Oakland, respect my college is in Ogden, Utah.
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  Speaker 1: And then I got drafted in Orgon.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I was just.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: I was just making sure that have story like him.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: Nigga wants to be named after I mean where it's
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: number because of Drew. They had the mohawk to get
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: the league was just asking you what you.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: Give them with my favorite players?
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: Yea with Drew good on March man get I just
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: had to ask that row getting.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: That's crazy that gonna put this outside up of this shit. Lewis,
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: if you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Bro quick?
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  Speaker 3: Did you come into the league comfortable though, ready to
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: go or it took you a while?
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  Speaker 1: No?
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: I came in.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say I was comfortable, but I had like I
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: remember during the summer after I got drafted, I was like,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: my trainer was training tomorrow, he was at camp today.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: He was over there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw, and he started taking me to
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: LA with him. So I was playing. I was working
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: out playing ones with Corey mcghetty, Matt Barnes, Debo, Like
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: I was going against big wings and they was all athletic,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: and they was all younger at that time. So when
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: I start going to LA playing against them, and they
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: was like backing up off me and I'm winning spots
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: and ones because I'm just hitting jumpers. They letting me shoot.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Then they see I can shoot, they was pressing up
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: into me. I was able to get around them. Like
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: just those like a couple of weeks that I was
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: able to go out there and get with them. That
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: was when I was like all right, like I'm gonna
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: be straight.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: I got the.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: Summer league, and summer League was kind of easy, like
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: it wasn't really a lot of dudes that's actually in
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: the league out there. And then my first preseason game
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: was against Kobe, Steve Nash, all of them, so like
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: I got broke in quick. Yeah he was in earlier, Okay,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: And that's where, like you said, even you know what
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, what you had to go through a weeper
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: being in options later that kind of prepared you to
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: go in be ready for the like to be a
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: franchise player. A lot of times you go to schools,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: you got shit the ball a lot and then when
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: you're thrown that situation, you gotta figure it out. Shit,
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: you had already been thrown the fire. And I can
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: imagine playing pick up with Corey mcgaeddiytth Orange. You was
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: getting no foul off.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Nah, they was.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: It was big and they was physical, so it was
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: like they wasn't calling no fouls.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: It really was no fouls.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: So it was and I couldn't come in there calling
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: fouls and they weren't gonna respect it.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: So it was that Shi. It was definitely. It was
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  Speaker 2: definitely good.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: For me for Kobe play in that first game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you did?
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: How was that shit? The first five minutes, I was
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: just staring at you. I'm like, oh, God, like that
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: that's a real person. Yeah, like that's Kobe. But he
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: he wasn't paying me no mind, you know what I'm saying.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: So when I got on the court, I'm thinking, you know,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: he gonna be like, welcome to the league, you know
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: something like that. He ain't say shit, just so that
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: kind of like put me back into being a competitor
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: because it was like, you're naturally gonna take it a
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: little personal, even if you feel like that's Kobe or
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: that's Brian or whoever.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn, he ain't say nothing.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, shit, it's either me waiting to be
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: a fan or I gotta do what I gotta do.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: It kind of it flipped back to that, you know,
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: after a couple of minutes, I.
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: Think it's dope that you got handed the balls soon
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: as you got in the league, Like I want to
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: ask you, you know, you know how I go so
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: like if you didn't, how you think your career would
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: have went? Like you would have had to sit and
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: think about it. Like that was the worst part of me.
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: I had to play. Were about to interview Bibby one
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: of these days, but I had to sit behind Bibby
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: and I used to just wait and wait and wait.
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: You kind of lose your offense a little because you're like,
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: it ain't no way. I'm this sad, but I'm glad
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: they didn't do that to you. I'm glad you got
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: hitted the ball because, like you said, you're a top
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: seventy five player. I want the greatest to do it,
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: Like what you did you want that moment like to
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: learn or was you like like being thrown in the fire.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, shit, a lot of people's career
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: be dependent on that. Like there's a lot of dudes
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: that if they come in and they get the ball
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: right away they could have ain't no telling what they
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: could have did that changed people careers. But when I
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: got there, it was like coming from a small school,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: I was always telling myself like, shit, I might be
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: in the G League, I might be on the bench.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: I ain't no telling. But I think once I got
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: there and they was like, you know, he can shoot,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: he ain't scared. He playing with you know, LaMarcus Ardis,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: We was able to play off each other.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: They was just like they let me go.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: And I think just like how I was able to
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: get along with Vets so fast, Like I played with
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Jared Jefferes and Ronnie Price, so once I was able
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: to earn their respect and I was able to be
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: on the court with them, That's when our coach was
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: just kind of like, you know, just let me learn.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: He just let me go. And I think that was
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: a big part of it. Is like you said. Being
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: at we were for four years, I was an extension
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: of the coach, so I knew how to I knew
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: how to like get my words off through the team.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I knew how to lead
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a team. I knew how to do the right thing.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I knew what it took, you know what I'm saying,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: to be the guy, but also like not make it
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: all about me where everybody felt like they part of it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: So coming in and.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Playing with Batum and Wes Matthews and La, Robin Lopez,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: all them dudes, it was like I knew how to
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: be there and be the point guard they need it,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: but I knew how to not get in their way
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: too and stop them from being able to La get
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: his twenty four attempts, but to him handling the ball
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: sometimes and Wes getting post ups. Like I was aware
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: of that because of my experience and being in school
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: for four years. So ain't no telling how I would
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: have went bro. I think I would have. I would
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: have been straight regardless. But I think them giving me
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: the ball right away to play is what kind of
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: let me just jump out there and get on the
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: track that I that I've been on.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I was ready you already.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: I was in Atlanta.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I went to the perfect environment too, like going to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Portland that was right by Oakland. Family could come, like
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: some of my family moved up there. It was like quiet.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: It was a perfect environment. Did you go to mawk
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: when you got to the league? What did you want
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: on that? But how was it playing with l A
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Man we be.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: We one of the more underwrited players.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: L A was like, that makes sure easier for you?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Made it way easier. I mean teams was really paying
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: attention to him.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: So like.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Being in the pick and roll with him, like he popping,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: he making every jumper, I'm throwing it to him on
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the block.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: They going to get him.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I'm standing there by myself like coming off picking rolls
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: his man trying to get back to him. So I'm
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: getting Like my rookieyear, I started every game with an
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: elbow pull up jumper off pick and roll, like I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: literally won two three dribbles to the elbow, pull up
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: everything because they trying to get back to him. Then
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: ship once they saw I could make it, I still
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: was getting pull up three off the pick and roll.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Damn there every time, So like playing with him. I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: was like, one thing I think about in my career
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: is like, if he would have never went to San Antonio,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: we would have won at least once already because he
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: couldn't because I would have came into my own.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: But he was that good.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Facts like, he.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Was that good.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: It was fact and batoon, motherfucker sleep on batoon. Batoon
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: was nice.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Bro Bro killing last season. Bro, he just killed this
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: last post season.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: He was he was. I hated playing now. They used
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: to do this little flairge little will you know we
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: do that?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Pike.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: I took y'all playing, Yeah, that's our that's that's our offense.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I used to I used to hate guarded so much.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: I was like, it's no way you can't use it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: It's terrible. Y'are doing all these flares. And when you
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: was guarding him, especially when CJ started playing, well it
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: was it was super effective with West and Patun But
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: when CJ started playing, y'all had the hand doing stuff
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: with and I'm like, they're getting filthy out here now.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we was using it. Running off that I was
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: like getting fifty you know.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: So that offense was crazy, But playing them, you knew
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: you was about to get you played in Portland, he
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: was getting beat we knew from the East Coast team.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: He was like, you're gonna take hell in Portland. It's cool, though.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: It's hard to win there, especially when travel. That crowds crazy,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: ye heard y'all.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: And Sacramento got one of the two of the toughest
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: crowds in the NBA.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It used to be like that. That just got like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that over the last couple of years. It was like
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that with Bib and them down for a while and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: then the last I say two three years it got crazy.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Just speaking that, I gotta ask, what's the most hostile
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: game you've been there, like as far as like environment,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: like location wise, man, because you don't have been to
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: some battles I say, either at Golden State or at
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: OKC like when they was nice, nice like at okay See.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: But Golden State just tough because like.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Playing them in the playoffs, you like, we played them
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I think my fifth year, or maybe it was my
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: fourth year. It was my fourth year. We played them
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: in the second round. We beat the Clippers. We played
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Golden State and we was up double digits every game,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, we like we lost four to one,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: but we could have beat them for to one, but
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: we'd be up nine and it'll be five minutes left
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: in the third quarter. We going to the fourth quarter
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: down eight, and it's like it happened fast too.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: It's like they hit one three.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: You hear the crowd, You see everybody stand up and
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: somebody taking the ball out and you just looking around
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like damn, it feel like we down twenty, they come
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: back hit another one. It's like, just see the game
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: just that was That's the only crowd I played against
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: at Oracle or like we could be winning and it
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: felt like the game was like slipping away.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Like that's how crazy it was in there. Like Steph
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: hit a three play hit it three like time out
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: like that, walked back to the bench.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Was like devastating.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Damn toughest matchup, bro, Golden State, It's what Steph? You
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and Steph one on one?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Uh? I mean Stephan, he just he just constantly moving. Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you just can't lose track of Steph. Like he he
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: definitely wanted the toughest. I think just one on one.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I say, like, Kyrie, a tough matchup. What's up, Kyrie?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Just a tough because you can guard him perfect, he'll
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: still make it either hand bumping them like fat like it,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: like he just and he he do it when it
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: don't look like it's hard too. Somebody do it and
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: they feel like they just did it smooth and it's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: all that. You'd be like, damn, like that can turn
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: into him making every shot.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: He spoke on Kyrie early.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: At one point in my career, I guarded Kyrie more
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: than anybody in the NBA.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Y'all played the line get killed every time.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: No.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I was when I was in Milwaukee. They was like
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: he was playing Brooklyn. It was like, you can guard him.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: You guard him the most of anybody in his career.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I was like, put that better.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: We got swept every year, don't guess.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Trying to get you to believe, trying to like, nah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I was already done. I don't believe that you're gonna
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: stay on him, hurt him, hurt Kyrie.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he twisted his ankle, but I wasn't getting in
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: it anyway. But I was gonna say, you have battles,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: for sure, but my favorite battle between you and the guards.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: I used to watch all y'all games, but you and
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Westbrook got together. I was like, oh yeah, this this
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: musty TV. Yeah, because y'all, y'all both tough minded guards.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: We're both gonna talk yp pop yall ship you don't
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: really talk like.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Somebody say something to you then you will go back.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: But him, he don't get he's starting. He started every time.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I remember one time he did that to me. I
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: was like, bro, I don't care. He was like, that's
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: the problem. That's the problem. Again it was a problem
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: on the trip. No, but what's those battles?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Like I mean it, honestly, that was the most fun,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: like with Russ because it was like my first five
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: six years, like he was the bully, like they was
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: on TV all the time. And Russ it didn't matter
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: if it was like a big matchup, if somebody was hurting,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: he was playing against the backup. He didn't care. He
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: tried to do it to everybody. And I just remember
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: when when I was like rookie second year, it was
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: like he used to try to give me fifty every time,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Like it was like he would be shooting on me
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: so much that like KD would be getting mad, like
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: past the ball, like he's shooting every time. And once
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I realized that it was like that. That's when I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: started taking in person. I'm like this, like I know
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he always on go against everybody, but he really trying
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: to like come get me.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: And that was like when it became personal. So I.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Start going back and then I start having the ball
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: more once like you know we did our rebuild, I
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: start having it more, and you know, he noticed that
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I was having it more, so I was being more
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: aggressive back at him, and then that's when it had
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: turned into like talking. You know, I've been busting your
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: ass for years and I'd be like, yeah, well, like
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it's a new time. Like so we started having that conversation.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It just turned into every game it was automatic, like
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I came to the arena knowing like it's on the night,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: like something happening.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I thought you had real, like be for real because
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: it just seems so tense to know it's just coming
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: from him just on bs, just trying to.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Get on.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Like that. He had cool to us. Its cool off
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the court, we're cool like, but on the court, it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: was just like he took that approach and like, ain't
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: nobody punking me.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I don't care who you.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Is turning you up? Though it did for sure yeah,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: you ain't see the playoffs. I mean got back the
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: blood because Pat said he was the bully of the NBA.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So here you go.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Stop continue God, I don't want to rule it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Oh you fried man.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I got to ask I always want to ask you this,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: ques Es, what's your favorite game winner between the One
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and Portland? You know what I'm saying, coming off the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: curl knocking it down or the bad shot quote unquote
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the bad shot.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: That's that's my favorite one for sure.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I know that was a personal comption for you, obviously
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: winning the series. But do you know what you did
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: to the internet with that shot?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: You fucked everything up that shot. That was probably one
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: of the hardest edits, the filest stretch my head. So
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that shot is one of the hardest basketball edits.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Of all time.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that that was a moment for sure. Yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and you you definitely when it happened. I ain't even
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: think about it like that until you know after the game,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you do media, all the shower, you do all that stuff,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and then like you finally get to your phone, Like
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I look at my phone right after, but then when
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you go into that whole post game process, it's like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a little minute in the playoffs for you get to
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: your phone and I just remember after that, I was
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: in a sprinter, I was on my way back home,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and I was just sitting there on my phone and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, it was so much shit that happened
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that I ain't even remember it happening. Like I looked
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: up into the camera. I ain't even remember that moment.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Crazy picture, crazy. It was just that whole ship was
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: It was a blur until I saw it. I was like, damn,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you remember waving though, I remember that. I remember you waved.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was your brother or something.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: My brother right there, yeah he came.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I said, oh they are.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But that's how you know when it be personal because
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you got a brother. So you know when like just
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: like I know, like what type of when I come
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: into the game, I'm playing against Russ or whatever, Like
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you see russ brother sitting in the courtside too, Like
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: everybody who got a brother, you know, like when you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: go home or when you step away, your brother is
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the one that your like, man, he got you up.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: No ever, you know what I'm saying, Like it's that
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: type of conversation. So it's that type of investment. So
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: when it happened like that, he was like, shit, he
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: made the shot.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Just what It's like, you knew you was gonna take
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: that shot, though, you do it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I knew after about like when the clock got like
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I remember, I was about to call for a switch
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: to get PG off me. I was calling for another defender.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But then he was a little bit like back a
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: little bit, so I kind of waved them off, like
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and right when I waved them off, I was like,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I'm shooting.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: This shit right here.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Damn you know how far you was, Bro, That's what
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I was saying. Bro, you shot that bitch from Yonder Bro.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: What's crazy? Is my trainer Field, the one that's running
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the camp. He came to OKC like after I think
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it was like after game three he came to Okay. See,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: we was in the arena shooting and that whole series,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: we were shooting at night, and I was just shooting
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a bunch of deep threes, and he was like, you're gonna,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: like you gotta make these, like You're gonna keep making
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: these in the whole series. I was just hitting deep
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: three after deep three. So when it got to that
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: end of the game, like I just remember like CJ
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was like to my right and I could just see
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: his arm like telling me like go, like it's time
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to go. But I already knew in my head, like
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: he stayed right there, like I'm shooting this ship right here.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: You go there for that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And it was a tie game, so I'm like if
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I missed over, yeah, that's crazy. And that shot got
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: brought originally again because we watched the Steph in the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Olympics and that shot that he hit and the gold
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: medal game was just like that was crazy.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: That's just different.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Ship, Like I just get it like that, And a
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: lot of people talk about obviously we know stuff to go,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: like you one of the best shooters of all time
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that don't get enough credit on that because you really
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: go crazy, like we were looking at the highlights, but
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you they don't talk about enough.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Bro number two with him and Clay number two because
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like you can shoot off
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: the dribble better though. I mean, Clay, I ain't gonna
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: lie because he us and I got a different view.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah I got PTSD from Clay, but the way you
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: can shoot off the dribble though, I put that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: In like you on stuff in a different run with
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that the.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Hardest shot, they more contested people guarding you harder. You
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's it's different, bro. Hell, Yeah,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: they definitely don't. They definitely don't talk about it. They
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: act like I don't be doing what I've been doing,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Like this may be my thirteen season.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: You've been going crazy for a long time.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Still you've been cold. That's what we want crazy because
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: it's been a long time. Like I'm just saying, it's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: like my time in the league when you when I
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: think about, like how many people have been very good,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like over that time, and then there's been more people
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: very good and more people very good for a couple
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of years, Like it ain't been that many people that
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: been here the whole time, Like since I've been in
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the league, that just been doing it like over and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: over and over. But I think people just get bored
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: with consistency. And I ain't loud, but like, should I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: been doing it that long and winning? Like it ain't
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: like I've been doing it and I'm playing fourteen that
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: just never been in the playoffs, Like, yeah, poor season
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: before or last Brad average thirty almost thirty three game. Bro. No,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I know, Like, it's hard average dub in the league
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: for a decade. Bro, it's crazy. I've been over twenty
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: five for damn near eight nine years.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: What another I gotta stop cussing. But another person, you
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: know how I get that botherfucking c Yeah ship too,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying that goes to you.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Like, but I always told CJ, like I could think
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: of games where CJ come out hot. He got eighteen
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: in the first quarter. I ain't trying to get my
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: twenty two like CJ. I remember one game he was
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: playing against Chicago, he had fifty and three quarters. I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: think I just didn't shoot, kept giving it to him,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: like because I'm I want to see everybody do their thing.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, if I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: lot of moments.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that when it's somebody else moment,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let him have a moment because I won't.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I want niggas to be happy for me and I
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: have mine, So I ain't gonna try to be hogging
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: at the moment all the time.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: So it seemed like the media trying to break out
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: up for a long time, Bro, trying to separate your
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: saying I was too small, Like so that goes to
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: show what type of person you are, for shure to
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: let him rock out like that for sure.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Even to see you like how you and brace Simon
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: is like nah, Bro, like I'll show you how to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: get to it. And you can see the direct reflection
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: of that, Like obviously you could tell Bro in that
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: locker room of your presence is felt. Bro, you show
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: love and that's like even with you, like you said
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: when you got no starting position, all right, I'm straight.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make sure my backup.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: He's gonna get his breath.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Too, and that was my goal.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: But like what he does is not normal, like especially
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: as a friend showing people love that essentially it's supposed
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: to take your spot, and that's not what when I
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: was coming in the league, Like people weren't really doing that,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Like nobody was doing a camp or they invite guys
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: to come and work out with them to show.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: What you do to help them get better because they
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: want your spot.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, Bro, Like to me, I'm looking
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: at the game and how like these dudes coming in
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and behaving and I'm looking at a lot of weird behavior,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: like how they handle success, like the shit that they're
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: doing and what they're saying and how they act when
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: they have some success, and I'm just like that, ain't
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: that shit is not gonna last. And then when they
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: stopped working and it don't work, and then they down
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: bad and they broken up about it, Ain't nobody gonna
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: come save you.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna care. So I'm just trying to.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to touch them and reach out and give
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: them everything that I know because I know it's gonna
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: give them a chance to sustain it. So like all
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: of them dudes that's behind me, like I'm gonna give
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: them everything because I'm not in competition with them, Like
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna win. I already been winning, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it ain't because I've been hating on somebody or holding out.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: That's actually why I keep winning because I'm not hating
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm sharing it and putting the next player, young player,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: whatever in position to do what they gonna do because
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I'm what's for me is for me, Like I'm gonna
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: be me all the time, and it ain't it ain't
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: gonna stop.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: That's rue. Everybody ain't like that, Bro. I remember my
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: guy ets just always tell me that about you.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: He used to be like, dang, no realists, bro. He
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: want everybody to win. And that's a fact.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Like just even seeing that with my own eyes today,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at all the young guys you're working with.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I'm like, man, if I could have had something like
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: this when I was a rookie, because they asked me,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: we were sitting up there watching like did you do
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: this when he was rookie? I'm I'm like, no, what
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: nobody taking me under their wing. It showed me how
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: to get better. They thought I was gonna come to
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: take their spot.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But it's I mean, the thing about like the camp, bro,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: is we got like speakers, like mental like stuff that
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: is gonna help them with stuff that ain't got nothing
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to do with basketball, because they all gonna have agents,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: especially now, they got agents, they got managers, they got
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: family members, You got all these people that's pulling them
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: in all these different directions. And then when it don't
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: work out, ain't nobody gonna be there? Yeah, it ain't.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: None of them been in position to really give them
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: no sound that that's gonna actually help. They just think
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: he about to make some money. They think he better
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: than everybody when they don't really know what's really going on,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Like they don't really know who in this league, who
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: they competition is. How the coaches look at him, they
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: just think this is my family member.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: He'd have won.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: So it's like we're trying to share as much as
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: we can with him on the court, but off the
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: court too, so they don't come in here thinking it
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: something it's not. And they been, you know, their whole life,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: they've been working to be an NBA player, and then
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: they at the league in one year and don't know
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: what to do. Now they just somewhere, you know, doing anything.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I ain't playing basketball no more. So that's really what
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: our focus is because a lot of these dudes, you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it's two way players, second round picks, first round picks.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Some dudes on the you know, they on a cusp,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: like that third year. You know, you get your option
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: picked up, you guarantee that third year, but after that
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you might be overseas like it's spooky. Yeah, they don't
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: care what pick you was no more. Now they're looking
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: at you like he wasn't what we thought he was.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: That's another nineteen year old that like they looking at
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: like they used to look at you, so you can
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: go yeah, yeah, So it's like we trying to stop
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: that from happening. But they it's a lot that they
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: got to understand on the court, but also like what
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: goes into it off the court too, you know what
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like them drills we did today that wasn't
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Euro steps and a bunch of side steps like Brady's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: are conceptual drills you have to be able to do
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: in the NBA. Like the X is on the court
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: more reason bron gonna zip the ball to that X
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: right there. If you're not, there's gonna go out of
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: bounds coming out. He gonna put his hands in the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: air and look at the coach and you're coming out
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: for sure. So it's like this the type of stuff
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: they got to know or you can't make it, especially
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: for some of the positions that they end like y'all
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: not the number one pick.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Of the draft, so nah, it's dope, which I first
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: syear being out of Portland.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: How was that transition coming into a new team in
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: New City and getting adjusted to play with another great
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: player like Jannis.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Like I was excited about it, like going into it,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: just opportunity to like really win.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Like every year.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I always thought, like if you're a competitor, you like this,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Like we can do it this year, you know what
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you talking to the team.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Everybody excited this in New Year.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: But this was the first time where I went into
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: it like we can win for real, like and it
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: was kind of It was kind of fucked up because
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I had a, you know, a bunch of family stuff
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: going on, going into like that summer, going through a
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: divorce and knowing I'm gonna get traded, but not knowing
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: where I'm gonna get traded to, so I couldn't get hurt,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: got to be able to pass a physical, so I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't able to get up and down at all. Like
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't play pick up or nothing the whole summer, damn.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And my first day getting up and down was the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: first day of training camp and I did. I got
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: traded like two three days before camp. So I got
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to Milwaukee, I did my physicals, move my stuff into
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the apartment I was in for a little bit.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: The next day I went to go shoot.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: The next day was media day, and the next day
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: was practice, and I remember like going up and down
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: in practice and we got to stop. Gianni's got the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: rebound and I'm like running up the sideline and he
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: threw it ahead to me and I jumped up and
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: caught the ball and I landed like if this dot
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of bounds line, I was this far out of bounds,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Like I caught the ball way out of bounds. I'm like, oh,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I'm off, Like I ain't on point, Like I ain't
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: ever did that shit before. I'm like completely out of bounds.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: So we keep playing and just because I'm a score,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: like I hit a couple of threes, like I got
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to the rim a few times, but I could just
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: feel like my body didn't feel good. I'm like, I'm thinking,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: like I just had to pick my life up in
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: two days and just go and like plays. You know
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, ain't nothing, Ain't nothing really settled.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So like I pretty much spent the whole year trying
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to like just get my mind to like be there
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: and to lock in and be sharp because I knew
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: what type of opportunity I had, you know what I'm saying.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: But it was a it was a harder transition than
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I thought for real.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Like just.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Like I said, because of my life, but then also
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like adjusting to playing with another great player, and then
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: also playing with Chris, Like Chris is a is a
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: great player too, but he plays a certain way too.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: So I'm having to get used to playing with two
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: players and I don't want to stop them from doing
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: what they do. But I got to find how to
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: be the best version of me within this too. So
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: it was just a lot of it was a lot
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of moving parts. It was.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It was more difficult than I thought.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It would be damned to get that ship together. Yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: trust at the Pacers. Yeah he thinks they got smoked
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: for y'all. Bro We did last year last year. Last
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: year they like fo.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Last year.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hurt last year. It just was, you
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: know they I think the first time we played them,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think I played. I think if we played
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: them in Indy, I don't think I played in that game.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: And I think the next time we played them was
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: in the N season tournament and then they beat us
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: in that game, and and that was when Halliburton was like,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you know, my time whatever. So like when I seen that,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I respected it. That's why I said after the game,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I respect it. Like that's like if you know, like
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: how Rush used to do this and sometimes people used
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: to do it back. He had to take it because
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't did it to so many people. So I
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: respected it. But like at the same time, you like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: we're gonna address that. I respect it, but we're gonna
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to that at yes.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: So then like the next time we played them, I think, uh,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: we beat them in Milwaukee, and then.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, they beat us.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I think four times we beat them that one time,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: but at the time that we beat them was when
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the situation with the ball and they had like fifty
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: yea Joannis had sixty six.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Sixty four or something like that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, so like he got that look back, yeah,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: but he was just just done in every play, like
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: they he there's nothing they could do that night. So
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that happened, and then you know, the season went by,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: so like we lose the last game of the season
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the schedule, I'm like, we about
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: to play Indiana in the playoffs, and that was when
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Looking at it. I was like, I ain't it been
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: like a little back and forth. Year been a lot.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to figure this out, figure that out.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: But I was like, now we're about to be about
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: to see in this like in this playoff. So I mean,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: it's it's kind of fucked up. We was banged up
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I was hurt, bro I was hurt.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: No, but I felt like we still was gonna win. Respect,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I felt like we still don't win. But I mean,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Chris Milson believes that Banking three is going to overtime
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and ship he damn sure believe.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: He I mean, I still felt like we was gonna win.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: But I mean they sometimes teams have a run and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: they had to run. They end up getting to the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: conference finals and they beat us in six games. I mean,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I still felt like we we had Actionally what I'm saying,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I strained my achilles again and uh in game three too,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: So get well son, y'all was hurt to be fair
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: as he was hurt.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: But you get out there, you get beat, you get beat.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Respect heye, dass niggas.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: This energy low like he marking that pace.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: We had a grazy season. I seen, y'all because I'll
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: be watching. So I've seen the episode. Y'all was like,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you know the Pacers whatever. I'm like, no, I remember you,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: was like I remember over there? Whatever, I want to
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: chicken Milwaukee Deer. We got a boss and half to
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: sat down. You gotta shouts about dogs.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Now, how you'll have a hell of a year this year?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Though, for sure it's gonna be crazy this year. You
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: just gotta be healthy. What's gonna come down?
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: What's like playing with Nis? I had a chance to
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: play with nice as a point guard. I ain't gonna lie.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep it a bean, It's me. I love Jannie.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: He's a good dude, super cool, but at a point guard. Now, hey,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I'm cool. I'm gonna keep it real, bro, I'm cool.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I'm cold cold, I'm coolish.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Corner my boy.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: No, this is the I mean.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: The thing about playing with Janni's is like when you're
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: being great and you've won playing a certain way, for sure,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you you gotta respect that.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: That's that's how you play, That's that's how you know.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And then you put me into it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I'm used to having the ball too, but I came
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: into the situation like, you know, like I gotta be
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: a great compliment to Jannis. So I knew it wasn't
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be what it was in Portland, but I just
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: think it was a It was just an adjustment for him.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's different when you
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: got some different type of help. You know what I'm saying,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Like it don't take as much, you don't have to
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: give as much. You know what I'm saying, Like we
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: can do it a little different. And I think it
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the best part about it is like we have a
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: conversation about it. Yeah, it ain't like he was just
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: like I'm not changing. He was just like dagn sometimes
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: like you gotta just tell me, like pass the fucking ball.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: You gotta tell me because like all I all I
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: know is go like I'm gonna go like but don't
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: like he'll tell you, like tell me. And he that's
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: all I had to say. And he mean it though,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: like he I give him credit because he because he
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: mean it. I'm saying, like that's really how he how
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: he think. Like when I got there, I'm watching him
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: work out. He working out against four people and they
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: all failing, like and he's like, no, like you gotta
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: find me harder than that, you know, Like damn, So
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: that's how he that's how he That's just how his
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: mind is.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: The One thing I do love about you is though
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: he do listen, Like he'll listen to anything you say,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: like he'll take it in. I don't know if he
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: was listening to me, but he was. He was considering it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, look, i'm fast too. If you
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: get it to me on the break, I can get
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: to the ring. He looked, Okay, all right, get out
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: the way.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Brother. Yeah, it's just an adjustment, bro. I think that
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: was the biggest thing. And like as the season went on,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: we talked about it more and more. The more that
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: we got to know each other, it was like I
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: felt more and more comfortable telling him like, if my
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: man is sitting right there in that gap and you
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: can't get in there, just swing it to me. After
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I hit a couple, like, he gonna get a little
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: closer to me and you're gonna have more space. Like
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: we started to have more and more conversations like that.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: But I also would tell him like, it's also gonna
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: let me know like when the ball is coming, because
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: he get in the paint so easy. You know, he'll
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: get into the paint and sometimes he had just dunk
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: on two people. Yeah, and then sometimes you know a
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: third person to come and you know, just jump before
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: he jump, and then he'll throw it and I'm thinking
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he about to shoot.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: So it was just like as the season went on, we.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Talked more and more and like we definitely had our
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: stretches where it was like that was it right there.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Like I remember we went to La we played the
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Lakers and I had like thirty five and eleven and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: he had thirty five and twelve and eight. And then
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: we played the Clippers and I had like thirty four
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: and ten and six and he had thirty seven, twelve
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and nine. And it was like those back to back games.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I remember like walking through the tunnel and we were
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: just looking at each other like this, how we got
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to this, How we gotta do it? Like it ain't
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: gonna always look like this numbers wise, but like when
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: we on point on point, it could look like this,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: but we got to use each other. And then both
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: of those games down the stretch, we played two man games.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I'm coming off, hit him in the pocket. He don't
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: have nothing. He come back to me, I'm shooting threes
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: off the handoff. I come off the handoff, get to
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the paint. His man come to me, I'm dumping it
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: off dunk. It was just like we was just we
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: was clicking, you know what I'm saying. But I think
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: when you have an injuries, you know, I miss a
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: game here, then he missed a game, and then Chris
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: missed a stretch of games like we was never able
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: to just fully like click all at the same time.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: You know. Then I think they both missed a stretch
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: of games. And we playing the Clippers and then Bobby
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Half twenty eight and fifteen, I have forty. We beat
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the Clippers with everybody, and then we beat Phoenix with everybody.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Like we just it was just a little It was
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: a funky year, bro.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I had y'all win the chip.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: We talked about it about, you know, but all them things,
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: combined injuries and.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: All that stuff.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: You gotta be healthy, Brod, y'all want the chip. But
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: I got y'all went hold on, let me, it's gonna
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: be be real, do I got. He's just crazy this
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: year to JT, he mad right now. He ain't getting
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: no tick.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: It might be.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be an interesting year. Bro, it's gonna be tough,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: but it's I think.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, from being in the league a
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: long time, bre it's a lot of ship that happened
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: over the course of the NBA season a lot, but
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: it's a lot deer man.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I don't want the de deer man. They don't no board,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: but I still rock with I say, I ain't see
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you in the building at all this year?
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Might people back there would be no fives on the walker.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: We gotta you know, president back, I'm going into the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: game this year. You play open to night. I think
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: we at Philly.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Oh that's tough.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: That trip.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to look to that.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I think we have feeling.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I want to hop into the rap ship though, Bro,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: when did you pick up the pen? When did you start?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Like did you start our freestyling with the guys on
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: AU trips and then it turned in That's.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: How it started real. Yeah. So like.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: My AU coaching, we was in like sick great like
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: we used to you know, we would do the local tournaments.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: We would go to Sacramento, we might go to Vegas,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: we would go to LA But we used to all,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: we used to have four people to a room, like
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: for our tournament, so it was like two beds. We
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: literally was back to back in the bed, back to
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: back in this bed. Four of us in one room.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: But at some point he would have us all in
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: one room and we all just kind of be circled
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: up in there, and he had talked to us like, hey,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna talk to y'all like men. Like
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you could tell he was trying to mold us to
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: be like certain time he would tell us like you
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, y'all from Oakland, Like we ain't scared,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: we don't care.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: You know what their name is, who they are, what
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: type of gear they got. They was trying to mold
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: us like that, you know.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: And they started doing this thing where like he'd start rapping,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: and then we pretty much had to pass it around
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: and everybody and everybody had to rap, Like we had
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: a couple of white dudes on our team, like they
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: had to rap.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I made him get in the booth and we sitting
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: in a circle like this, Dann. We just passed it
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: around and everybody had to rap. And I just remember,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: like when I rap sometimes like they'd be like like
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that was hard, you know, like and I felt like
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: every time I spit, I had to keep coming with
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: something clever like I. And then like all my cousins
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I grew up around, was doing music. They was all rapping.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: And then Ship. By the time we got to high school,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you know you come out warm ups, we was coming
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: out to our own music. Go record that's far, let
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: them play the music we're doing, layup lines was playing
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: our own music. College, we started doing mixtapes and then
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Ship that was was.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: You a West Coast rapper? First was you? Forty said.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Wow, we now who was I?
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Being from the West Coast?
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I like West Coast music, but my style of music
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: was always more like East Coast gotcha because I like bars.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I like people that could like rap for real, and
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that was never the style on the West Coast like that.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: It was more bounce, you know, like dance Steve, you know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: it was more like that.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: But I always preferred my style because I'm I like,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: you know, lyricism and writing and bars and doubling tundras
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I wrote like I'd write
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: music like the kind of music that I listened to
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and then I try to find like that balance of
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: like what's player and what sound good boring and preachy,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: and that's kind of like the laye that I do
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: my music in.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: When Did You Know You? Was nice though, like all right,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I can really do this. I can start putting the
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: LP out the album up. I start in Wayne Jada
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: for a feature like I did.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I think it was like probably like twenty fifteen, I
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: start putting stuff out on SoundCloud and no, it was
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: before that.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I did what was that?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: What was that All Star twenty fifteen? Yeah it was
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: it was twenty fifteen All Star in New York. I
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: was at that one. Yeah, so All Star twenty fifteen
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: in New York. I did Sway in the Morning because
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Sway from Oakland. So he was like, you know, you
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: do your media stuff out there. He was like, come
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah. So when I walked in, he
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: was like, man, like, I don't want to put you
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: on the spot, but I know you'd be rapping, Like
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: do you want to spit something? I was like yeah,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: So like I rapped on Sway like during All Star
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and like the video like that's my most viewed rap
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: video on the internet.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Like so like after that, that's when everybody was.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Like, you gotta start putting music out, like this shit fired,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: like it went viral, remember that shit. And then after that,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I start putting it out on SoundCloud and I was
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: doing a bunch of SoundCloud stuff and then people was like,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: you got to drop an album. And I remember, like
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: my twenty sixth birthday, that was probably the following year.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: For my birthday, I did my first show, but I
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: performed all SoundCloud songs.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Where are you performing at in Portland?
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I sold it out. I sold it out a show
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: in Portland on my birthday. After I did that, and
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: then I start working on the album after that, and
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: like all my partners, Adidas at JBL at the time,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: like they started wanting to use my music for like
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: all my stuff.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: So that's really how it started.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: That's hard, bro.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I needed to own my music.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I needed to own like my publishing and the masters
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: and all that to be able to use it for
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: like commercials and all of that stuff so that I
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: can make money from it.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: And then from there it just took off.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard you say you had one of uh
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: somebody working with you, your agent or something like you
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: hadn't really tap into the music.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: He actually worked for my agency.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: He's like one of my agents, but like they he
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: always get on me because my very first game in
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: my career, like a regular season was against the Lakers two.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: So he played them on Halloween and we actually beat them,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: and I had twenty three and eleven, and I remember
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: walking out the locker room the night before, me and
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: my cousins.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Was just upstairs like freestyle and writing bars.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: And I came out the locker room and they was like, man,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: that was a great game, Like you just played against Kobe.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: You just had twenty three and eleven, only Alan iverson.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: So they telling me all these stats and shit like,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and I remember I was just I let him finish,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and I was like, bro, I really can rap.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: But I was thinking about what I was writing in
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: my notes. I'm like, bro, I really can rap.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: And they all looked like, man, not another fucking basketball player,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: thinking like they can rap because they hadn't heard me rap.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: So then he started I started sending them stuff this phone,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: like after I record, I send it. So he really
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: was like just you know, an agent working for my
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: agency doing basketball stuff.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: And now he basically is like you know everything about me,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: he and my A and R.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: But he do all the business side of everything with
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: my music as far because he didn't learn, Like he
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: didn't learned everything.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: That's right, bro.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember the four ball Friday's going crazy. Yeah,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I started four bar Friday. So what's that energy like?
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Having a sold out crowd listen to you? You know,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: rap like you get it in the NBA. You can
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: playing in front of thousands of people. Then you go
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: you up on stage's you know, it's different. It's definitely different.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Like my first couple of times, I'm like, man, I
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: wonder if they even go like funck with the music
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: like that. And like when I got up there and
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I did the first show for my birthday, I was
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: doing this freestyle and I think I posted a clip
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: of it at the time on my Instagram. But I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: was rapping and I was like rapp Like one of
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: my bars, I was like, last time they count me
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: out what I do?
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Game six?
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I said, last time they count me out what I do?
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Game six? Talking about when I had the three on
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: the rockets and I said it in at the show,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I said, last time they count me out?
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: What I do?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: And the whole crowd said Game six and it was
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: and it was a clip of it, and I was like, oh,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: they fun with my ship. I'm really nice after that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: after that and I was like, all right, bro, you're
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: about to crash out and crash you put the jump
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: off stage crashing out.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Who been your favorite collabse so far as a two
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: parter and then like, who you look forward to work
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: in the future with?
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, my favorite so far? That's crazy.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I gotta say Wayne, because like the first time I
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: got with Wayne, it was actually somebody reached out to
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: me for Wayne because they was like, you know, he
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: wanted to do something with you because he you know,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: he liked how you don't try to rap like a rapper.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: He can tell you just rapping like you. So we
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: connected like that and ship.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Me and Wayne got so many songs together that ain't
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: ain't even released, like because everything I send him, he
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: do it and just send it right back, like he
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: just he do that shit fast. So it's a bunch
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: of shit that we haven't that I haven't even put out.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: But I'll say that one because I actually been to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the studio with him and like being able to see it,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Like, you know how crazy that is? Bromber.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: I grew up on little Wayne Bro like.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Like Wayne Bro.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: No, it was crazy because when I he was like,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I was in l A. He was like, yeah, pull up,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: come to the studio.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: And I remember I was like all right, and then
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I was on my way there and I was thinking
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: like damn, like I'm finna pull up on Wayne at
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: the studio. I'm thinking he's finna have fifty people there.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be a whole situation.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I got there. It was him and the engineer. That
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: was it. That's crazy, man.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: And he probably wrapped through thirty five different beats, just
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: like play the beat. He's standing up at the MC.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: He had rap rap, rap, they bring it back here,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: rap over some more. He wasn't writing it or nothing.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: He just was kind of like rapping over each track,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: just kind of punching in. And then he played some
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: ship for me that you know, hadn't been released. I
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: was like, Bro, this dude really is like how you
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: even think about half of this ship? You're saying like
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: it was crazy. It was a crazy experience. Bro, still
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: be doing that to this day. It's still crazy. Like
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: he coming crazier, like right now, like he keep going
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: in his bag right now?
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: What's the girl?
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: The who for l s U? She gave her?
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: He gave her a real verse, fire verse, crazy and
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: like as an athlete too, like people will give you
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: a throwaway too, they'll just do something to be like here,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like what they won't do it.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: So he gave her a real verse. And he always
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: gave me a real verse, and he never gave me
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: no little bullshit.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who's somebody look forward to though? Or you want
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: to that you ain't collab with your man? You got
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: something Cold?
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Man, I've been on Cold a long time. I've been
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: on his ass for I've been on about.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Hit him, serve.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I been on his ass.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: That's how I want to interview, Like, Bro, we got
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: the dam, Bro, we got your dame.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: That's why I hit me, Like Bro, I'm trying to
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: work it out. I feel bad.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Bro supposed to this ship months ago. I appreciate it,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: but I've been trying to get one with Cold for
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: a minute. But I actually know him, like like he
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: hit me, Uh, he randomly hit me one time, and
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, Okay, I see his name problem, like, oh,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: he finally finished.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: He probably said something through.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I opened the message up and he hit me about
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: like our roster to see, like if we got a
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: roster spot about somebody he know trying to get back
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: in the league playing GM. He was playing GM on me.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, bro, I thought the track
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: was coming through. I'm finish, send it right back. But yeah,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I say, Cold, that's my that's my boy man. But
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Ship Drake, it's I mean, it's it's a crazy few
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: names to say, but I say Cole, Drake and Kendrick,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: the three, them three.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I gotta get at some point.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: When you just said I forgot that Cold really wouldn't
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: hoop to Africa.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought he was about the highlights. He
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: really he really loves hoops.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: So like what I do send him sometimes is like
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: when I see other rappers that's actually nice and hoop.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I always send him a clip up like hey, he
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: might he might be able to get you. I know
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: you'd be tight.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: He probably hot.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Who you think better him with Chris Brown? Chris Brown.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I think Chris Brown like he's just he an athletic,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: like he an acrobatic he just he can hoop for real.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Like when I see his clips, he looked like a
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: young player, you know what I'm saying, Damn co I
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking there's probably more athletic, more athletic, but like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: really love hoop though, so that I can get the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: best rap hooper is Davey's going to hooper crazy, David's hoop.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: He's the best.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: A dude name it's this dude. It's a rapper. He
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: ain't like super Big. His named Dax though. He nice
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: and hoop.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: We got somebody from at the end of that rap
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: for real, that's nice.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: David's just like that though, like Dax, I'm telling you.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Look him up on Instagram looking nice. Look up de
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Bo from Indianapolis.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he really d one.
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  Speaker 2: He was you. He really, he really liked that, you know. Yeah, crazy,
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  Speaker 2: he gaged the rapper. That's nice and hoop that I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Rapper.
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  Speaker 5: Gilly Gilly can HOOPI he'd be hooping Gillia Big three,
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  Speaker 5: m v P bro NL chopper hoop too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can tell he played a you for the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah he can hoop, bro.
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  Speaker 2: That's a few who it's somebody I can't think of
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 3: They're rap nobody we grew up on.
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  Speaker 2: He said, na.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you at the All Star Game too. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: you got bors, but you one of my favorite you.
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  Speaker 1: You got bors.
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  Speaker 3: Cam cam cam cahoop. You know we ain't doing this
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  Speaker 3: on the show, boy Kelly, why why musicians? I can
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  Speaker 3: play basketball, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I.
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  Speaker 1: Just team uniform.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not come on, good dame out of here. But
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: it got this campush to get me all rapp up
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  Speaker 3: before we got out.
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  Speaker 4: We can't let you go, bro, you top seventy five. Man,
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  Speaker 4: you had that moment to be there at that ceremony.
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  Speaker 2: Man, what's that like?
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  Speaker 1: Bro? Honestly it was. It was crazy, bro, because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't when they first announced it. I started seeing like
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  Speaker 1: lists of like this is my top seventy five, this
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: is my top seventy five. So I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: just like a trend that you know, people were saying
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  Speaker 1: who they thought they top seventy five players were. And
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  Speaker 1: I remember driving to the gym one day and somebody
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  Speaker 1: called me like you made it. I'm like, like what
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  Speaker 1: you talking about? And they sent me a picture of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they had the little thing around your head
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  Speaker 1: and it was like you made it. I'm like, so
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  Speaker 1: they actually put like a committee together to like pick
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  Speaker 1: seventy five players. And once I found out I made it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, shit, who didn't make it? So I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: look and see some of the people that didn't make it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn it. Like it was the first time
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  Speaker 1: that I was like they really looked at people's like
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  Speaker 1: body of work, like the availability them winning, like what
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  Speaker 1: they've been able to do consistently. Like this ain't like
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  Speaker 1: no All Star voting, it ain't popular contest, it ain't
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  Speaker 1: none of that.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, what have you done?
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  Speaker 1: So, like that's why that's why it meant so much
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  Speaker 1: for me, because it was like I could think of
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  Speaker 1: bigger names and you know, people that you if they
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  Speaker 1: had to say seventy five players that they might just
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: off the top of the head put them in front
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  Speaker 1: of me. But when you look at the body of work,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of players in the league that like
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: it's probably like James kd Russ, Steph Bron Damar, but
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: after that, Chris Paul, after that. It ain't nobody that
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: got more career points than me.
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  Speaker 2: That's a fact.
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  Speaker 1: And like they all been in the league for three
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: or more years longer than me, and I ain't far behind.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: So it's like, like I said earlier, that been like
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: with me being in the playoffs on a vet team
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: and on the rebuilding team. We didn't we started rebuilding.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: We was right back in there, like right back in
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the playoffs eight straight years. So it's like that was
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: the first time I was like the like they made
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: the right decision. Like people ain't gonna see it right now,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: but when they look back at like what actually took place,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be like he should be in there. And
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: then you know, we got to uh to Cleveland for
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: the like seventy fifth anniversary event and just being in
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: the room and seeing you know, Kareem and Magic and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: like seeing all of these dudes, that was the first
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: time I was like like should I even be in this?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Like this crazy to be in here and I'm like
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: one of them, and being in the picture and taking
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: a picture with you know, the other Oakland Point Guards.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: It was you know, gp J kid like being up
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: there with them. It was like I'm amongst this group.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: But I'll say that like the craziest part and I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: told this story I think on the on Q Rich
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  Speaker 1: and uh In d Miles shots and knuckleheads on knuckleheads, like.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody was there.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: But when when Jordan walked up, that's when I was like,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: this man is like not even a real is he
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: even a real person? Like it was probably eighty cameras
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: surrounding like the other seventy four players when he walked up,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: it was probably his own set of sixty cameras. And
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: he walked up and it was like you can see
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: right away he ain't like we part of the top
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: seventy five, Like he's the one, like he a part
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: of his own group. And that like that was when
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: it was the most obvious to me, Like seeing him
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: walk up. Even when you was in a building, when
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: they called his name out, it was like, nigga, we
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: could all leave now, like let him go up there
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: by hisself. That's how loud it was. It was like
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: that shit wasn't real. It's crazy, bro.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Top seventy five, Bro, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: That's like you know, coming from no name AAU team,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: we restate to get the top seventy five, Bro, I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: don't probably could you dreamed that?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Nah?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I said it yesterday when I was talking to the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: campers when I was just telling him, like I was
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: stressing to them, like all of the people that's working camp,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: that's not like a NBA coach, Like even the counselors,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: the you know, a lot of the staff is like
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: they coached me. I played with him, they played in college.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Now they coaching college or they coach in the NBA,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: like they got credentials. But they also witnessed my story
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: and everything that I went through, so they they know
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: that none of the stuff that we're doing, it ain't
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: just no, oh I'm a start. Now let's make sure
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: let's you know, act like he know everything. He ain't
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: have no you know, he ain't do nothing wrong. This
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: shit was seamless, Like they've been there for the whole thing.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: So they witnessed it and they can share the same
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: message that I'm sharing and they've experienced it through me.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: But they also know, like the formula or formula zero
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: is not me saying this is what you gotta do.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a product of the formula that all of these
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: people make up and I'm sharing that with them. And
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: I was like the reason why it is important for
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: y'all to like be invested in this and to embrace
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: everything that's happening here is because I don't need nothing
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: from y'all. But because of all of this stuff and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: like my ability, I've been able to accomplish way more
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: than I ever would have thought. Like I would have
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: never have been like I'm about to be top seventy five.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Even when they was talking about top seventy five, I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: wasn't thinking, oh, I'm in there for sure, you know
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like I never could have I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: never could have dreamed of it going like this, you
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was just when I came
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: in the league, I was like, man, I might spend
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: some time in the G League. Literally, I was literally
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: thinking that I might spend some time in the G League. Shit,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I might. I might go to Miami and be playing
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: with Brian and d Wade, be just a shooting point
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: guard like shit, I don't know.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: But I could have never dreamed of everything that's happened happening.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: And that's why, especially with you be at top seventy
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: five and deserving of that for sure. She said, you
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: get overlooked a lot, and the time change, like you said,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: it's always voted Fatigua garoo for people. But like you
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: can talk about all the newer guys, there's a lot
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: of younger point guardsen league. But still you still hold
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: your ground, you still do your thing. You're still set
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: the center with that before we get out of here,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: it ain't gotta be a no order. Just know what
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Who's some of your top five players? They
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: ain't even gotta be the best, or who's some of
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: your favorite players right now?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Just period?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I say right now, because if we say period, it's
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of people I can't leave off the list
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: right No nigga get the waller.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: So right now, I'm gonna go, uh Anthony Edwards.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I think everybody super high on him right now, but
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I like him because of his energy, Like his swag
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: about him is authentic and he got the game to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: go with it. So I'm gonna go Anthony Edwards. I'm
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: gonna go uh Ja Morant shout out the joy. You know,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: he got in some trouble, so I think people kind
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: of turned off to him a little bit, But I mean,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: I I know what I'm looking at. Yeah, I mean
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go Anthony Edwards. Jama Rant Luca
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: leave me somebody, yeah, joker m hmm, And be honest,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: that's my five right now that I'm like, when I'm
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: watching and they like my favorites, I'm gonna go so.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Far that backcourt trenchy.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Babies, that's somebody that comes out. Hell, your two picks
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: was a lot of Oakland, Like I say, I mean,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm going with like obviously younger players. Yeah,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what you know. That's the group I
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: go with.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: But they all like real though, Like when you watch him,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: you can tell, like I hang out with him, you
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like John Morant, he come on
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: thirty eight. Yeah, he clow with me.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Anthony. That was definitely one of us, for sure.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: It was funny even see the joker. He was like
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: when Olympics, he was all right asking, I'm by killing
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: my niggas, drinking beer, watching horses for shure. I know
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Lucas smoking the squares when we're.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Squares.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: He's not the new Ports getting fit.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Took me square.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: That was a beer. Y'all want to take a beer.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: I dang.
• 1:10:25
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• 1:10:29
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