Latest / The Sense and Senseless Podcast / EP:57 The Game: We’re All Being Played, Why Both Political Sides Are Lying To You
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- Bryan: And we wonder why these people hate us. You know? So we got we making other countries hate us. Our country already hates us. Our country's trying to make us hate each other. I mean, there's just hate everywhere, just a big hate fucking circle. All right, ready to roll up. Let me find my media. Where the media. Jason: Yeah, roll this. Mm. Bryan: Hey everybody, welcome back to the Sense and Senseless Podcast. I am Brian Jason. If you're new here or just stumbled upon us on accident, welcome to the family. We're just two dudes trying to make sense of shit in a way we can all understand. Jason: Jason. So the Mm-hmm. Bryan: All right, so this week all three episodes will be all tied together. But in this episode, we will start talking about how we're all played. How everyone is lying to us, we'll discuss some shady shit our own government has done, as well as how they keep us divided. Why so many people that tell the truth commit suicide? Like suicide is the symptom of the truth. Stick with us, we're going somewhere with all this shit. Like, share, and subscribe. J so you got anything? Jason: Nope. Get into it. Bryan: jump into this shit. All right. So let's start this off. We're gonna jump right into let's talk about this fucking game. All right. You know the game. The one where they lie to us and they play with our fucking minds. You know this mind fuck that the the they them whoever the fuck that's running this shit, you know? Yeah, the they them. You know, you know the they the them that do all this shit to us. Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The the Tyson. Yeah. Let's eight them. Bryan: And that's how that's what we're gonna refer to him this week, the day then. And I don't I don't care what side you support, the Republicans or the Demodontes. Thanks, Garland. You are being played. Don't believe me? All right. Now this is my opinion on why I don't support the Republicans and the Demodonts. I see our political system is being broken, and I think a lot of us do. And the system, and we discussed this before, is a sinking ship. I see Republicans and Dem Democrats both in the same sinking ship. The United States government in the sinking ship, all of them. And instead of fixing the ship, we just keep bailing this motherfucker out. And we keep hoping it stays afloat. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: the tough choice is to pick it up and fix it, let it sink, or build a new one. Because we just keep kicking the can down the road, you know, and bailing this ship out. And I I don't know what the answer is, but I can tell you the answer's not what we've been doing. I mean, somebody a lot smarter than me should be able to figure this shit out. But it's gonna take all of us to point out that this shit ain't working, because evidently somebody doesn't see this. You know, not the person that needs to see it or the people that need to see it. The people in politics. the people in Washington, DC, the people that rule us, yes, rule us, because that's what they do. They rule us. Our rulers have no idea What we're dealing with, Their lives are so much different than the lives we live. They're so out of touch with their constituents, they have no idea what your daily struggles are. So even if they did care about you. They don't know you. They don't know how you live. They don't know your life. They don't know what you're going through. So how can they fight for you? Therefore, they're pretty much fucking useless to us. And that goes for most of our politicians. We need to stand together, all of us, not blue, red, black, white, purple, green, just concerned Americans, and show they them that we, the people, have had enough of this divide and conquer shit. Like we said many times before, we have more in common with our neighbors than we do with anyone in the government. And you may think you don't have anything in common with your weird neighbor, but you do. Because most of us are the weird neighbor. We just don't fucking know it. You know? So tonight we're going to take a journey. And we're going to look at Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: How they try to divide us, why they try to divide us, and basically how we're being ruled by other countries. That's what we're gonna do tonight. Jason: Mm. Bryan: You got anything before we dive a little further into this, Jason? Jason: No, the whole time you were describing that, I kinda envision my my mind starts getting visions of like w what we can put that to, right? And I I thought of that movie Hustle and Flow or kinda like where he was wanting that microphone, you know, to so he could start recording a that rap song or whatever and he got got his hole to do some nasty stuff to the dude selling the mic to get a discount on it. And that I I feel like the government is our pimp. Bryan: yeah, that's yeah that they are they are pimps. Yeah. So with their hoes? Jason: They pimp us out and we just Yeah, we the we're the hoes. We're not even the Johns do. We're the hoes. And that's what they do. I mean and and we sit there and do it. We sit there and like like we like we don't have or or we talk about women and abusive relationships and stuff and they just stay there and take it and get beat up and we're like, Why aren't you leaving? You know, leave that mother. We're doing the same dang thing, are we not? I mean Where are we gonna go? But we c can we not take it back? Can we not take the power back? Bryan: We could, but everybody's too comfortable. Jason: I know. And everybody's always at each other's throats. Over stupid crap. So Bryan: Yep. And that's all by design. And we're gonna start this with a Stanford study on lying. And this video was was eye-opening to me and once you see it you're gonna understand why I put it in to this episode. Check this shit out. Jason: Uh-huh. Bryan: Think about that. Jason: I've known people that specialize in that really well. Bryan: No matter what you show i i they're right even when they're wrong. Jason: They just lie so much that they believe all the lies they say and it's crazy because they'll straight lie to you about something that you're really knowledgeable about. Bryan: Well, I mean I I get that and I I know a few liars. I don't know a bunch of liars. But I think in the context for tonight, what I was thinking of is we we have people on both sides that sell themselves out for their for their party. So they'll read a headline and they'll just go with that headline. It doesn't matter what the headline was. and even when it's proven wrong, they went so hard for that headline, you know, arguing with people that they still have to defend it. Even when they know it's not right because they cannot accept the fact that all the effort they put into it, you know, was for nothing. So they just double down on stupid. And this is this is en masse today. You know, you see it all the time online. It's like neither one of these guys are right, but you know, they constantly yelling at each other. Jason: Right. Well, I know a guy that votes Democrat all the time because he's union. He's like a union pipe fitter or something. And he's big into the union. But he's like Southern as heck, got, you know, con supposedly conservative values, but due to the fact he's union, he swears up and down Republicans are bad for the union. And he he voted for Kamala. And I'm like, dude, you're gonna vote for that drunk? I mean, she can't even say a co y she don't have Joe Biden's sleepy joe symptoms. I mean she just Bryan: But Jason: Today is the day because it's today. I mean, she makes no sense in what she's saying at all and she doesn't have some it like a drunk. Like what is this woman gonna do for you? Bryan: No, I I agree with you, but almost half the country or at least half the country voted for. Jason: But he was so I know that because he was so lit up that the Republicans are gonna ruin the they never have. The union has been around for a long time. Nobody has ever disposed of the union. I know some jobs have gotten rid of their unions by just waiting out, you know, they go on strike and they'll just wait out until they dispose of them. But I mean, Bryan: There's too much money to be made from a union for them to get rid of it. Jason: Yeah. And if I ain't mistaken, Kamala pissed the unions off during the thing and Trump I think they went to Trump. I'm I I think. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure she made some comments that you better fall in line with me and they are like, Screw you woman. We're not you're not gonna tell us what to do. You know what I'm saying? So Bryan: I think I if I remember right, some of the union people, but a lot of the union still sided with the Democrats, if I remember correctly. Jason: Yeah, well and it's man, you gotta stop doing that just because you know if if if the Republican candidate was a bad choice And the Democrat was a better person in my mind. I'll I'll vote for whoever I think is the better pick. And you can't say, Well, the Democrats support abortions. Jason, do you support killing babies? Bryan: Well, that's the whole thing is and they want it to be binary like that. You know, do you support billing killing babies? Okay. Depends on let's define what you calling, you know, legal abortion. Is everything or is it nothing? You know, is it all or nothing? And that's what they want you to go at all the time. You'll get more people that'll agree with emergency abortions and rape abortions than you will when you just ask the loaded question of do you agree with abortion? Jason: No. The Yeah, they wanna yeah. Bryan: And what are you asking? You know, 'cause what well I agree with no, you gotta agree with it this way or this way. No, no, no, no, no. The brain don't work like that. They only you only think that way because everyone's been lying to you, letting you know that it has to be all or nothing. And now your brain is mush and you can't think for yourself. Jason: That's right. They've trained you. Bryan: And and honestly they trained all of us. Do you think anyone made the smart pick based if if I'm a Democrat and I look at Trump in office right now, do you you think they do not have an argument against us for voting for Trump? Jason: yeah, they do I mean, just read comments on anything that deals with them on on any social media, not just TikTok, Facebook, all of Bryan: And but you think they have some valid arguments is what I'm saying. I mean they're gonna disagree regardless, you know, what happens. Orange man bad, but you think they have any valid arguments? Jason: There are some. Yes. Yeah, he's done some stuff that I don't agree with and I voted for him. Bryan: That's my point. So they will have some valid arguments that they can put out there and so they can stand on that when you say Democrats, if we would put Kamal in, this one I agree with you. I think it would have been a worse pick. But that doesn't mean that it might be a handful of things that they can honestly come back and say, you know, Trump told you he was going to do this, didn't happen, so now he's lying to you. Jason: Yes. Yes. Bryan: You know. Jason: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I d like you s my mind is built that I I w let's get the top two people up there and then figure it out from there. But that's not how it happens. Bryan: It's not going to happen like that because they don't want the what's best for you in there. And we're going to go through that a little more tonight. I mean, a lot of people are just following the party line and have nothing, get nothing in return. You know, so every four or eight years it changes. You know, whoever's in fucking office and is, you know, this person's great, and this one, whatever party, it just jumps back and forth. And nothing really changes. Nothing. You know. Jason: No. Bryan: Just more and more money gets spent on problems that they created for us. And they saying they're solving problems, but we didn't have them problems until you started writing laws on shit that we didn't need or regulations. I mean, you creating all these fucking problems and giving these stupid ass solutions. Jason: Well, and if the movie depicts it right, if you go back and watch The Patriot with Mel Gibson in it, when they went up there to vote on whether or not they were gonna go to war with Britain, you know, great or with the British government because of the taxation without representation and all the when you watch both sides going like you're like, Yep, that it it's been going on for years. Bryan: Yeah. yeah, they they have to to rally the troops, they always felt that they had to lie a little bit. Remember we used to even talk about that false motivation. You know? You might be telling them something that you don't really believe, but you're doing it to get them up and going. And then in some cases you need to do that. Jason: Yeah. Well, the companies we work for push us to do that. If you're a leader, they push you to like, hey, you gotta get your guys to buy into this. And you're like, Well, hold up. What if I don't buy into it? You better you better learn to buy into it. And now you gotta figure out how to get your guys to. And the military, they probably did it to to us in the military, so Bryan: And we we say a lot of people said this, you know, Trump could cure cancer and people will still find a reason on why orange man bad for curing cancer. It's just the way it is. It's Trump Honestly, I don't think Trump is as bad as the Democratic Party really believes, but they were able to run on that so hard that if they just keep pushing that envelope, people keep buying into it. It's easy. It's an easy sell, you know. Jason: Mm-hmm. Right. Bryan: You got the devil. When you got the devil in front of you, hell, you can you know, make him in anything that you want and people are gonna hate him, no matter what he does. And again, I'm not gonna say he was great, you know, but it's not as bad as what they try to make him out to be. And it goes to Jason: Hell, the Democ the Democrats loved Dean Bryan before he started until he came out that he was gonna run as a Republican. Bryan: Yep. They did. Well, no, but now you gotta understand that neither party wanted him. Well, we have to keep that in mind. That n when he first came out, neither party wanted him. They ran, you know, he had to run as a Republican and he beat the Republicans out. But it wasn't like the Republican Party just jumped behind Trump. Trump just built him up. He he started a wave that, you know, people started following him. And w Jason: Yes. Right. Right. No. Yep. And they jumped on it. They jumped on the bandwagon. Bryan: Well, yeah, he ain't had no choice. He he beat he beat everyone in the the primary. So so they had no choice but to back him because what they're gonna do, we're not gonna take you. Then he splits off and neither the Republicans nor Trump wins, and you know Hillary Clinton was the president. You you had to make a decision. And I think they made the right decision. But to say that the Republicans knew and they would just took Trump on and all this other stuff, no. Jason: yeah, he smoked He probably landslided Bryan: And that's why I liked him. It's because he was an outsider. And it goes the other way too. I mean, I I don't like Rokana, but with Rokana stood up with Thomas Massey and all to get this fucking Epstein foul and shit released, I support that. You know, I can say that he did the right thing. Yet there's a lot of people on the right that would call me a communist for just thinking that. You know? How can you support him? Well, I mean, he did something that I agree with. So I s Jason: Uh-huh. Yeah. Right. Well, I told you like Fetterman, man. I'm a big fan of Fetterman. I think he's he represents like the people like me and you. That's what I feel he does. Bryan: I think he's he's bought and paid for, but yeah. He's high on the APAC list too. You can't you can't I don't it's hard to support any of them, honestly. You can you can approve what they done. You can't be proud of anything they really say. You know, because they're gonna tell you everything that you want to fucking hear. And even sometimes they might vote. Jason: Who Fetterman? Yeah, it is. Bryan: against the bill, you know, that you might be against. But they're only voting against it because it's going to pass regardless. So they just save in face. You know what I'm getting at? They they have that out to where they can do stuff like that. It's it's a big game to these people. And we we're not given the rules. Therefore we we're getting played, I mean we're getting played hard. Jason: Right. Right. Right. We don't have the movie script, they do. Bryan: they definitely got a script. So I'm gonna play cut too. This is this is a guy. He I'm gonna pause this 'cause this is a pretty long video, but I wanna discuss it anyway as we go because he he brings up a lot of good point points about how we're being played. So what you think so far? Jason: I've made the comment before and I don't mean to offend any of our supporters on TikTok or any of these platforms or whatever, but I'm sorry. I'm just not a I'm I'm a unique person. I'm about uniqueness. Everybody is unique in their own way. Do your thing. Do your own thing. But we're we live in a copycat world and it's more exposed today than I've ever seen. I didn't realize it was this bad until you get on TikTok and every other scroll is people doing the same damn shit that you've seen before. And they call well it's a trend. It's So we got words for it and it's like Bryan: Well it used to be challenges. You h you had a challenge. Now it's a trend. Jason: Okay. Now it's a trend. And and I'm just that goes into what Okay. Yeah, we did at work. Bryan: Well, let me ask you this. Did you do the ice bucket challenge? And see, I thought it was the dumbest shit in the world. I was like, I didn't understand why everybody was doing that. And I to this day I still can't understand why everybody follows. But my point is, it's very easy to get hooked up into that shit. Very easy. Because everyone's doing it. Just like he said, you know, you when everyone's doing something, you want to fall in. You know, what's what's the next thing? You know, and just think about clothing, tennis shoes, you know, the the next hype. It's always been there. Jason: There it is. Bryan: You know, somebody's always been pushing something. And I think Hollywood was really good at pushing that shit. We we can dive in that one day too about how they influence us. I mean, today we're just going to talk about, you know, politicians and the government, but we are influenced heavily. And like you say now with social media, you see it in a greater scale. And it's almost as if you're getting more and more people trained. Like we we joked about before, you can get people to quit breathing, you know, just by telling, you know, just to use oxygen. And it it was a trend to see how long you can hold your breath or walk around with oxygen. You just it's so simple to get people to do shit by creating, like what you said, a trend. If you make it popular, the people are just gonna fall in. Right. So do you agree with them so far then, right? Jason: yeah. Hundred percent. Bryan: I back it up a little bit and we're gonna start it again. Ready? All right. I mean, they easily take your attention away from everything. And I mean he's talking about a beef with rappers and all. I mean, it don't have to be a beef with rappers. How about T Z Entertainment Tonight? those Housewives series, you know, dumb shit, the Kardashians. All that stuff's meant to pull your mind. And people get so wrapped up into that stuff. You know, that becomes a a big deal, you know, where they're following it round the clock, these Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Bryan: What is it, the bachelor's shows or the whatever the hell they got going on now? People really get involved in that stuff. Or there was was it the Baldoni or whatever, and that that blonde-haired girl that were fighting back and forth about some movie they had made together, and it was Deadpool's wife, whatever her name is, and his name. Deadpool's wife and the guy she was starring with, they they like fucked each other or something, and they decide to sue each other, and that was all over the fucking news. Jason: yeah, Levi Le Levy Yeah. Bryan: Like it was something and people were engaged in that shit like it meant something. It don't mean shit. It doesn't mean shit, but we we're not engaged in the stuff that really matters. And they just gonna continue to do that to us as long as we're willing to listen. And it's no different with sports the same way. You know, and I enjoy sports, but we get lost in that too. We we talked about that before with no bread and circuses. This is all bread and circuses. Jason: Right. Bryan: They ready to go on? All right. Jason: Yes, sir. Bryan: And they still use an all this propaganda on us today. I mean, all that shit is true. You know, we we and we are a society of consumers. we consume and throw away. We consume and throw away. That's all we do. I mean, look at our landfills. If you really don't think that we are here's another one. How many storage units do you see around, you know? Jason: Mm-hmm. We are. Mm-hmm. Yeah, those that's a popular business. Bryan: Very popular. Why do you need so much shit? Jason: Gotta have stuff. Bryan: I mean seriously, we all really we just need shit. You know, and I'm guilty of it too, but we just need shit. We we gotta have our shit. Jason: This is my shit. Bryan: That's my shit. And this is the other thing is most of us, and I I can't speak for everybody, but I I it's probably at least most of the people I grew up with, I mean, we're we're taught, whether directly or indirectly, that money is meant to be spent. Whether it's spent on essentials or shit, you know, or shit, even shit you don't need, you know, to put in your storage building. We know that money is made to be spent. The more money you get, the more money you spent. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: That's just normal. We we we never were taught to invest or you know what investment looks like or how to play with the stock market and that shit. We didn't so you went got what the next person had because that's that was well. I mean, you had something. When you don't own something, you want to own something. You know, and that really hurts. The regular man, you know. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: And then think about all the commercials and shit about upgrading to everything. You know, you name it. It's always on, you know, buy your new car, you the new furniture, the new house, everything. We can we can do you a new bath in one day. You know, you can finance it for a hundred years at ten dollars a month, you know, whatever it is, always something stupid, right? That they're trying to sell you just to get you in their fuck get them in your fucking house. And they all competing for your money. and Jason: Yeah. Bryan: Society wants you to believe that you need the latest and greatest. And that goes with everything we consume, including our media and social media. Everything today is breaking news. Everything. How many times you flipping through whatever social media you're on and it says breaking news? Everything is fucking breaking news. You know, the dog just walked across the street and took it shit. Breaking news. Everything is breaking news. And the news cycle is so fast and just laden. With buzzwords. Every week you learn a new fucking buzzword. I don't even I try to keep up with them. If you get in enough corporate meetings or whatnot, you'll learn buzzwords from corporate meetings. And if you get you listen to enough podcasts, you start to learn the buzzwords of the political nature. And then it constantly changes. And Jason: Right. Or hashtags and shit like that. It's like, where did this come from? Bryan: Yeah, it's it's the new thing. It's the trend. That's how people are talking now. You know, are are you a boomer? You know, it's like even if I am, what does it matter? You know what I'm saying? Jason: Well just to throw a funny thing in here 'cause we're not having, you know, one of those real dark episodes with this, but on and we'll see it going going up to Nebraska where my son and his wife and my grandkids are, but I'm sorry, my daughter in law. Not my my son's wife. She she's my daughter in law and I love her to death. But anyways, there's billboards like up in Missouri and then as you're going up there Of this law firm that helps for sexual harassment. And it's got this hot looking chick on there, and it says, I know it it's supposed to be hashtag me too, but me growing up, that that symbol meant pound. So I I look at my wife and I say, look, pound me too. There's pound me too right there. Like she she wants it too, you know. She she felt left out. Bryan: The bout about some That's right. Jason: That's what she was upset, but my wife gets she gets a giggling. Bryan: That that might be a just a secret joke that they trying to put to us old people, the pound me too. Jason: I guess. Yeah, 'cause all you got all these girls on Facebook doing it when that was real big like I don't know, like eight six years ago or how eight years ago, like pound me too or hashtag me too. But it's like, Yep, she's saying pound me too. Bryan: I did not understand a hashtag until we started this podcast. I had no idea I didn't understand why people say hashtag YOLO like that's stupid. Yeah. No that yeah. Jason: Or y I didn't even know what YOLO meant. My boy my son kept saying YOLO and my wife said it once and I said, What the hell does that mean? She said, You only live once and I was like, Then say you only live once. Why you gotta say YOLO? Bryan: They're wrong. You live every day. You only die once. Jason: I meant what L N O or laughing my or L A O laughing my ass off and is like w d People started using all these little acronyms and stuff like that. Remember we had acronyms in the Marines and I hated having to learn them and now I gotta learn damn acronyms to know what people are texting. Bryan: Right. And that's because the it's the fact that society has the attention Jason: We're too lazy to say the full damn sentence. Bryan: Yeah, and they have the attention span of a gnat. And they retain information about like Dory. You know? I mean, seriously. If you work, and I'm not blaming the younger generation. I'm not saying that younger generation is stupid or anything. That's not my point. But they don't feel like they have to retain information because they always have it in their hand. So The the younger guys I worked with, anytime you ask them something that they've done in the past, or you know, do you remember that? It's like they don't know. And it's how the fuck you don't know? You just did it a couple of days ago. Why don't you remember that? And then I gotta remember that a lot of these people never had to memorize anything. Even in school, even though I hated school, you could memorize a test and pass a test. And it was fucking simple. It was, it was not really testing what you've learned. It was just testing what you can memorize. Period. Most tests are that way. Jason: Right. Bryan: But when you don't have to memorize it for a test, because you can cheat on your phone or whatever you're doing with AI. No, whatever you're doing, you never have to think. So it's hard to everything does it for them. So they have no reason to learn to retain information. The first things we had to do growing up was remember phone numbers. You had to know people's phone numbers because, or you had to carry a book with you. Jason: Everything things for you, yeah. Bryan: Because you weren't looking it up any other way when you went to a payphone or you called somebody from you know what I'm saying? So you had a whole bunch of phone numbers in your head. I bet everyone that's our age can remember their home phone number if they stayed at that home any, you know, time. Because when you was a kid, you were taught very early on that phone number and you had to learn that one and maybe your grandparents. You had to at least know those two numbers. And as you got older, you learned more and more numbers. But today, ask me a phone I I have to look at my phone to know my wife's phone number, you know, because you don't have to know that stuff. That's how I can understand how these kids grow up never having to really retain any information. This becomes a problem. Jason: Right. Well, yeah, I now I know my wife's and that's about the only one. Like I think I know my mom's too without looking. but yeah, if if I lost my cell phone and had to grab somebody else's, it would be hard to call. If my wife didn't answer, I'd be screwed because I'd I don't know anybody else's phone number by heart. It's all programmed. I don't have to memorize it. Bryan: And think about it if you grew up like that. What what would you remember? Exactly. I'm not blaming the kids. You know, it's just the way it is. Jason: Yeah, well th yeah, these kids did. I mean, yet. It's just yeah. Yeah, it's part part of their life now. Bryan: And so if you understand that, and you can understand that there's not a whole lot of substance in what they know or what they believe. Because everything's changing. It's constantly changing to them. Now, these same people on the internet, I they're gonna argue about who's right and who's wrong instead of trying to solve the problem. And we see that now, you know, with our low podcast and the few people that do comment. Jason: Right. Bryan: I say this a lot about people. People don't want to fight. They want to hit you. Right? Even even when you see people in the streets, you'll see somebody like sucker punch somebody. That's what they want to do. They want to hit you. They don't want to square up and fight you. Majority of the time that's not even the case. They they just want to be able to hit you and walk away. They're not thinking about being hit back. It's the same way it looks like on social media. Somebody wants to go out there and be, ha ha ha, you know, you're you're a bigot, you're a racist, you're this, you're that. Okay, but you when you ask them to explain why, you know, give me substance. They have no substance. Even if they do come back, it's you know, it's just surface level shit because they don't know you, but they're so used to being getting away with just saying you're a bigot and somebody coming back and just giving them, you know, something. It's like, okay, I might want to know why you think I'm a bigot because there might be something wrong with me that you see. So what do you see? Yeah. Jason: They don't come back. Right. Yeah, and I want to correct myself if I if there is a problem, I wanna correct myself, but you can't tell me like that one cat that kept Google this Google showed this, Google showed that. Okay, okay. Good job. Good job. You Googled something. But that doesn't mean I'm a racist because Google said that that didn't happen. Bryan: Exactly. And then when I Jason: I don't care what color you are, if you misappropriate money that people fund you for something and you use it for something else, I'm gonna say something. It it has nothing to do with right. I don't that and like you said, you gotta you you you gotta get over that, right? You can't sit there and stare at it, but you've you've been called a bigot. It I had to look that word up. I'm like, I I've heard it before, but damn, who calls people that? I mean, are we gonna get back into the King James language ear? Bryan: It's it's a word someone heard and they just feel proud that they can say it. And you know, whatever you feel, it doesn't matter to me, but I wanna know why you feel that way. I mean, if you're gonna approach me about something like that, and you're gonna if you're gonna try to to I mean, basically shout me down by a call, just slurring my name, you know, then explain to me how do you know that I am that? You know, do you actually know what that is? Jason: Yeah. Right. We're Yeah, and I don't expect everybody to to agree with me or agree with you and and I'm I'll take those comments on, but just instead of you're a bigot you're a racist, just say, Hey, I actually see it this way and put how you see it. And we respect how other people see stuff. You might be retarded, but Bryan: and all Jason: I'm s I've said retarded stuff. I Bryan: Yeah and Jason: We can spell our own. I'm just saying. Go ahead. Bryan: The way that people act today, that's just like what that man was saying. That's all by design. You know, they them play us all against each other that way. And and let's be frank, you you're not allowed to say the truth out loud. And why? Because they them they want to shape yeah, they want to shape the truth. That that's their truth. You know, whatever they want to be the truth, because they them, they control the media. Jason: Right. Well, shut it down. Bryan: And the media is used to control the narrative. Well, at least the media used to be able to control the marrow narrative. But you know what I'm saying? They control the narrative. They control a lot of big podcasts now. they them control a lot of things. And when you say the the truth out loud, sometimes it just gets you blacklisted. And this journalist that I'm about to play, he got destroyed for being right. Jason: not laughing that the dude died, but two gunshot wounds to the head and he he killed himself. He was he yeah, he put two up there, dude. It's dun. You know, come on, man. You're getting one if you kill yourself, unless you fucked up the first one, sorry. here I got man you already got me pulling the F word out. Bryan: Yep. Suicide. Killed himself, two gunshot booms in the head. You realize how tough you gotta be to shoot yourself in the head twice? Jason: Hey. Bryan: I mean you gotta be a tough son of a bitch. Boom. Jason: I I don't even know if this if this older lady is still alive or not, but I had an older lady as an English teacher in high school, and anybody that knows me, like that grew up with me or something, will know who I'm talking about. But her husband, I think he had MS. And this isn't a joke. He tried to kill himself, tried to shoot himself, but I guess he was so messed up trying to hold something. It it he he shot himself, but it didn't kill him. And I felt bad. Like I I was happy he didn't kill himself, but then I was like, He's gotta live with that. You know, now d I'm sure she went in the whole house and got rid of anything that he could take his life with, but Bryan: Yeah, but shoot yourself twice. Jason: Yeah, but yeah, d yeah. He was shot twice in the head. Bryan: So if he would have shot himself and then he shoots himself again because he didn't die the first time. Jason: Yeah, whatever. That didn't happen. I mean, that's that's just like the stinking Charlie Kirk crap, man. It's like you don't even make it believable. If you're gonna lie, make the shit believable to everybody, even the experts, would be like, Yeah, that that could happen. Bryan: Yeah, here's the the major argy argument I read against Webb was that he was trying to link the crack the crack epidemic to the CIA. It wasn't that the CIA was doing shady shit and purchasing cocaine. The issue was Webb was linking these purchases to destroying inner cities. All right. And that could not be proven, so he was lying and he had to be destroyed. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Sound familiar. I mean Jason: He was on to something if they took his ass out, right? Bryan: Yeah. I mean could they couldn't be doing the same shit to Candace, huh? Not saying they they just Yeah, I mean 'cause what she's doing, you know, they they constantly trying to attack her personally 'cause they don't have anything, you know, to go at her on evidence. Jason: Or Charlie? I mean I got bl I got blackout shades in my house, so I'm like, Is somebody watching us? I d I haven't heard the I haven't heard the shit my headphones in a while, but I I crap you not, I don't know what the heck it was picking up, but I was hearing like sound like covert Crap in my like the hell? Whatever. Bryan: Ha ha ha. Jason: H d do you think I'm going? I've already been there, homie, and back and Bryan: I got a couple of examples also of some other blacklisted journalists. So they had IF Stone, he he lived from nineteen seven and nineteen eighty nine. He was an independent journalist and he was blacklisted during the McCarthy era for era for criticizing US foreign policy and anti communist witch hunts. Jason: McCarthy. Bryan: And then and if you're close to my old age, you you likely notice mixed man old Phil Donahue. I didn't notice about Phil Donahue. Now I knew Phil Donahue was a talk show host, but I I didn't notice know he was fired from MSNBC in 2003. And that was shortly Before the Iraq war, because this was because he was airing anti war voices with critical guests. Jason: I'm Yeah. Bryan: Executives reportedly said the network needed to be patriotic and that his show was not good for business during wartime. Bye, Phil. I know you did a lot for us, buddy, but yeah, you can't be talking about this shit, you know. You you you gotta Jason: Yeah, Phil Donahue was like the Jerry Springer of the eighties. Bryan: Then Ashley Bainfield, MSNBC anchor, demoted and sidelined after a two thousand three speech criticizing US media's embedded Iraq war coverage as cheerleading rather than journalism. She described it as sanitized and faced internal backlash. So yeah, you can't say what you want to say. You can't say the truth. And I I found more, but you get the point. Jason: Forget I forget who that reporter was. It it went viral. But she was reporting on something and she knew she was gonna get canned for speaking the truth. And so she took this thing out. It's I think she was out in the field, like out in a town or something, and she just let it loose. 'Cause it was live and it went viral. I mean, they candor for doing it. But it just kind of proved that yeah, that if you don't meet their narrative, they're gonna get rid of you. Bryan: Like okay. Well, th let's talk. Well yeah, let's let's Jason: And now like you said, they're killing people. They're not just blacklisting them, they're killing them off because they don't want them to have a voice at all. Bryan: Well let's talk about some of them that just taught just die. You know? They got I can't say Danny's last name very well. It's Castellero, I think it is. He died in nineteen ninety one. He was a freelance investigative journalist probing a vast alleged conspiracy he called the octopus. This involved stolen promise software. Iran Contra. Bank scandals, intelligence agencies and high level corruption tying together drugs, arms and politics. He was found dead in a West Virginia hotel bathtub with both his wrists slashed multiple times. I'm not laughing about his death, but come on, man. All right, Jason: There's the multiple stuff. Like the one time didn't do it, so I just kept going. Bryan: It had Michael Hastings in twenty thirteen, Rolling Stone and BuzzFeed contributor, famous for the runaway general in two thousand ten, which led to General Stanley McChrystal's firing. He was working on stories about the NSA, CIA, and surveillance. This was all post-Snowden era. He died at age 31 in a single car crash in Los Angeles. His Mercedes reportedly accelerated to high speed, 100 plus miles an hour, hit a tree and exploded in a fireball. Official cause accident, possibly speeding, intoxication, though tests were inconclusive. Witnesses reported unusual car behavior. Some experts and colleagues, including his widow, raised questions about possible vehicle hacking or foul play. He had expressed paranoia about being watch. The timing shortly after critical reporting amplified the suspicions. So they said the same thing about Paul Walker. Jason: Paul Wa and Chester Pennington from Lincoln Park. They said he was a big advocate against child trafficking. No, it was a hanging. I understand that. Yes, yes. But I'm talking about people that think that these people either died in an accident, like a freak accident or suicide. Bryan: really? Yeah, but but that wasn't a car though. I'm talking about a car. Yeah, I'm talking about a car though. Yeah. and this one is not actual journalist, but Terrence Yinke, nineteen ninety six, Oklahoma City bombing responder and investigator. Official suicide by slashing, but family disputed it due to prior threats and wounds inconsistent with suicide. Not to be fair, I mean These were considered actual suicides. All right. Were they? I don't know. Or as I said at the beginning, maybe suicide is a symptom of truth. None of that shit passes the smell test, huh? Jason: No, I got oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you after this. I just got a good lead on it. Bryan: All right, now if all of y'all laughing at me and thinking, you know, th this is just bullshit. You know, there's no way that they're just killing people for telling the truth. There's no way they them can be that sinister, right? All right. Check out this secret war. Jason: Right. Bryan: What what I found on the internet is that the US flew over not not the two hundred thousand bombing missions, five hundred and eighty thousand bombing missions, dropping more than two million tons of ordnance, more than all bombs dropped in World War II combined, and more per capita than any other country in history. This equated to a plane load of bombs every eight minutes for twenty-four hours a day for nine years. Jason: You know it's funny. That's not funny, but I live near a World War Two base. It used to be a World War Two base and it was a training ground and all that stuff and it was shoot, a prisoner of war camp. And farmers will be out farming like disconfields or ripping rip rippers and you'd have to look it up, but there are these big spikes They go down and it bust up the soil underneath a lot heavier than a disc or a culti packer or not a culti packer a disc or a crap, my mind's skipping. I I far or worked on a farm a little bit. But anyways, they they would pop up mortars and artillery rounds that didn't go off. And then they would have to call Fort Campbell. Bryan: I know what you're talking about. Jason: And Fort Campbell would send E.O. D. guys over and wire up and detonate And every once in a while at the house you'd hear th you know, you'd hear an explosion and that's what was going on is E.O. D. was Bryan: That still goes on today. Jason: Yeah. Yep. At least two or three times a year they'll f they'll find some. Bryan: They said in Laos, an estimated 200,000 people were killed, about 10% of the population at the time, and many more were wounded. They said about 80% of the bombing casualties were civilians. A quarter of the population became refugees. Roughly 30% of the 270 million cluster sub sub munitions failed to detonate, leaving roughly 80 million small bombs scattered across the country. And these continue to kill or injure people today. Jason: Yeah, today. So do the math of how many years and it's still affecting them. I mean it's crazy. And w and we don't care. Why are you think if we felt bad about it, our government, we'd go over there and help try to clean that up. Bryan: would think. And they might have had a valid reason for dropping all these bombs on Loos back then, but Jason: Yeah, but Well, it w we'll never know what they were doing. They did ever anybody ever come out and say why we were doing that? Bryan: No, I never dug any more into that. I mean I'm not gonna dig any more than that. But if anybody would like to and share with us, I mean go ahead and share with us. No. Now, that was what they used on Loust to me was a little overkill. And I'm not a very smart man. I'm just assuming that we probably could have got done what we needed to get done and louse with a little bit less ammunition. Just saying. Now, how about this shit though? Have you ever heard about this shit? I'm gonna play this cut and then we'll discuss it on the other side because I never heard about this until this week. Jason: Right. Bryan: People hate you. They fucking hate you. Why would you burn the whole neighborhood down? I don't know if did they cover who they were actually trying to get first? It was a black activist group called Move. And the mayor had classified that that activist group as a terrorist organization. And the city was trying to, they were attempting to evict them and serve warrants. And after a standoff and shootout, the police dropped some C4 in the building. Jason: I Bryan: And as you've seen, it started a huge fucking fire, destroying the the whole neighborhood, sixty one homes. Jason: C Okay, can we can we kinda relate that to the Ranch Dividian? Bryan: Yeah, no, because at least at least the branch Dividian, that was all people of the same thing. This was just not all of those people's houses that were burned was part of that move. Jason: During Clinton during d I I understand, but what I'm getting at is where the government tries to dictate that somebody's a terrorist and they don't handle it well at all. I don't know where where do let's build a bomb and we'll just take it in that house and blow it up and we'll see what happens, you know, and like you said, sixty houses. And nobody nobody answers for it. Bryan: Yeah and yeah, they just made all stand down. It makes me wonder what they were trying to cover up there too. You know, what was so important to burn that whole fucking block down? That don't make any sense. You know what I'm getting at? And nobody answer for it. Jason: It's like the this gang stuff, like the bloods the cry the bloods and the cribs are the only ones that I can think of. Like I mean, you got like a million gangs probably. Why you know that they could get rid of these big gangs if they wanted to. These cities could, but do they don't want to. They're doing stuff for somebody way above them, right? Bryan: yeah. Jason: And it's to me it's a fear thing too, to keep people scared in those commun in those areas. Bryan: Man, it makes you need the government. Jason: Yes, makes you lean on It's a false sense of needing. Bryan: Yeah, and this group I d I don't know this group. I mean they said they were terror they could have been terrorists. I don't know. But do you really need to torture a whole fucking neighborhood? Jason: Yeah. Bryan: They hate you. They do. Jason: Yeah. They don't care seriously, they don't care about collateral damage. Bryan: No, I mean that that is just awful. Yeah, and nobody held accountable for what is it? And and I looked it up and yeah, and I looked all that up through Wikipedia and it all was like, yeah. I'm like, what the fuck? How you don't hear about that shit? I'm sure the people in that area heard about that, but I mean, why they don't teach you that in school? Look, if you become a terrorist group, they're gonna burn your whole neighborhood down. You know what I'm saying? Jason: Yeah. No, that's what I told ya. Bryan: Man. All right. That's one more we're gonna look at. I'm just trying to show you all that your government, the people that supposed to protect you, the people that's supposed to have your best interest in mind, do not have your best interest in mind. They don't know you, they don't know how you live, they don't know anything. They can't relate to you at all. They just need you to vote. And whatever they can say to help you get on their team to vote, they're gonna say. And they're gonna keep you pitted together because divide and conquer. So this is the last video of this episode. Yep. Five thousand people killed immediately, mostly civilians, including women and children, with another seven to ten thousand injured. They said many more died later from complications, cancer, birth defects, and long term health issues. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Could have stopped it. I we're supposed to be the good people. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: And we wonder why these people hate us. You know? So we got we making other countries hate us. Our country already hates us. Our country's trying to make us hate each other. I mean, there's just hate everywhere, just a big hate fucking circle. and I also read that and this is all from Wikipedia is there was a this Anful campaign from eighty seven, eighty eight, it was a systematic operation of ethnic Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Cleansing and genocide against Iraqi Kurds, involving village destruction, mass executions, and chemical attacks. It estimates was that Jason: If I'm not mistaken, the Kurds were mainly Christians too. That's where a lot of Christianity was in the Iraq was yes, I I think. Let me go ahead and keep talking, I'll look that up. Bryan: It was it. Well, why you okay, go ahead and look that up. They said estimates for the entire campaign range from fifty thousand to a hundred and eighty two thousand Kurdish deaths. All right. So we started this episode talking about the game, the mind fuck that we're all getting. The mind fuck that allows us to believe that our side is right. We know we are all right. You know, we we we know we're right. So much so we're ready to fight for what we fucking believe. Why? Because even when the evidence shows that we may be wrong, we refuse to accept it or even listen to the evidence. Because All these times we let our mouths overload our ass when arguing with people we love or just everyone else on the fucking internet. Admitting we were wrong would be seen as a failure. And that is sad because mediocrity is rewarded today, but being wrong and admitting you're wrong is shame. And that sad part, that's all by design. All of that's by design. I mean, so when you're looking to Divide to control when you want to control the masses with a small group, right? Number one way you do it is divide and conquer. Did you find out what the Kurdish were? Jason: Yeah, they do have some s Christians scattered throughout there, but they it's they said the majority is Sunni Sunni Islam. So I remember that now that there there's a bunch of tribes over in Iraq and they pretty well like I think there's three main ones and they don't get along. So Bryan: We're gonna discuss in the next episode why that is. Jason: Right. Bryan: So we we talked about this before, and and we asked, you know, how do you get a small group to control the masses? And then the first step is divide and conquer. So you get different groups of people to fight or hate each other. And then when they're busy arguing or attacking one another, they don't team up against the people in charge. Pretty simple, right? And then number two, you control the narrative and information. You take charge of the news, the schools, social media, and stories. Jason: Right. Bryan: So you decide what people hear and believe. This way you shape their view of reality. And then you create or exaggerate external threats. Point to an enemy, real or made up, and tell people they're dangerous. This scares everyone into rallying behind the leaders and accepting more control. Again, it's the fucking infomercial strategy. Create problems you don't have and sell you a fucking solution you don't need. That's all these people fucking do to us. So we're gonna continue to pull this thread in the next episode. What you think so far, Jason? Make sense? See where we're going with this? You got Jason: Mm-hmm. No yeah. Definitely. yeah. Wait wake up, America. Stop getting played. Bryan: Gain thing that? All right, everyone. hope y'all join us in the next episode. this is the Sense and Senseless Podcast. I appreciate everyone from joining. I'm Brian. He's Jason. Peace. Jason: I'm Jason. Pace.