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Jeff Legwold with PHD 12-3-24 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 5: Now sometimes he shows he shows his resume once in
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  Speaker 4: All right, in such a crazy game and there's so
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  Speaker 4: many storylines from it, what is in your opinion, what
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  Speaker 4: is the biggest story from last night?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think in any playoff season I've ever covered,
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  Speaker 5: even some that Tyler played in, there's always the nuts game,
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  Speaker 5: the crazy game in there somewhere, you know, whether it's
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  Speaker 5: you know, even in the Super Bowl seasons, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Bradley Roby returning a fumble, you know, late in the
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  Speaker 5: game with the Chiefs going in to do whatever they're
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  Speaker 5: going to do, or you know, in the twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 5: they you know, they have the shootout in Dallas, which
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  Speaker 5: is kind of a crazy game in its own right,
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  Speaker 5: not not like yesterday's but that is a It's on
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  Speaker 5: my short list of nuttiest games I've ever been to.
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  Speaker 5: So it was a different vibe. And sometimes when things
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  Speaker 5: go in your way, that's just the kind of game
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  Speaker 5: you win, and when they're not, you know, that's the
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  Speaker 5: game you don't win.
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  Speaker 4: You know, in that Doubs in that Dallas game has
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  Speaker 4: created fifty one forty eight something like that's along those lines. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but wasn't one of the defining moments an interception I'm
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  Speaker 4: forgetting the linebacker's name. I apologize, But wasn't one of
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  Speaker 4: the defining things the interception.
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  Speaker 3: Late late Yeah, gave Romo through an interception?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, who was that?
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  Speaker 3: Who was that?
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  Speaker 7: I'm trying to was.
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  Speaker 6: It was?
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  Speaker 3: It was?
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  Speaker 6: It was Danny Trevathan. So even in the crazy, crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Offensive game, you got a defining defensive moment, which is
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  Speaker 4: kind of like last night too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, or you know that Peyton Manning's run for a
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  Speaker 5: touchdown will always be my memory and I did, but
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  Speaker 5: uh the uh yeah, the pick sixes, it's just crazy
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  Speaker 5: and Jameis Winston with maybe the quote of the ages
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  Speaker 5: after the game, and you know, I want the.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty delivered from pick sixes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, deliver me from the pick sixes. But you gotta
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  Speaker 5: like waking up and say it delivered me from being short.
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  Speaker 7: You know they're going to have that's our Here we are.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like the big question of the day is defensively,
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  Speaker 1: why not just match up Pats or Tan more of.
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  Speaker 7: Time? That's a great question.
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  Speaker 5: I by my again, it's my data, you know, charted
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  Speaker 5: my hand, So take it.
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  Speaker 7: For what it's worth.
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  Speaker 5: But the two games they've matched Sir Tan the fewest
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  Speaker 5: this year are Baltimore and yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: And you tell me what it looks like when they don't.
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  Speaker 5: And I know, you know they feel like they're tipping
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  Speaker 5: their hand when they do it.
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  Speaker 7: I get it.
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  Speaker 5: But to me and sometimes in the NFL, overthinking is
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  Speaker 5: a disease, I think. And that's just overthinking. If if
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  Speaker 5: cirtain look the snap Sir Tan was on Judy yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: nothing happened.
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  Speaker 7: I mean he knocked the ball away one time. That
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  Speaker 7: another time I.
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  Speaker 5: Saw Jerry just simply shut the route down because he
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  Speaker 5: knew it was going nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, it's it is a the question.
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  Speaker 5: And you know he cut Sean Payton kind of pushed
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  Speaker 5: it aside after the game, Well.
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  Speaker 4: Because whose decision is that that Sean Payns or is
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  Speaker 4: that VJ scheme?
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  Speaker 6: Like who's that?
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  Speaker 5: You know, Look, the defensive coordinators vance Joseph, But I
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  Speaker 5: refuse to believe Sean Payton doesn't sign off on every
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  Speaker 5: single thing that team does. A long time Sean Payton
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  Speaker 5: associate Joe Vitt was even the team's head coach at
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  Speaker 5: some point, you know, when when everybody was with the
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  Speaker 5: Saints and and Peyton was suspended. I just think that
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  Speaker 5: he knows what the defensive game plan is and and
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  Speaker 5: has signed off on it. And I think that's why
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  Speaker 5: last night he sort of said, look, that's something we
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  Speaker 5: have to look at. And I think he is correct
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  Speaker 5: in that, but that it is telling to me that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they didn't match him on Flowers very often
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  Speaker 5: in Baltimore, they didn't match him on Judy very much
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  Speaker 5: last night, And those are the two games that got away,
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  Speaker 5: the only two games that got away that bad with
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  Speaker 5: this defense thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Games now, and it goes back to the start of
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton being the head coach here that the Broncs
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  Speaker 3: have yet to have one hundred yard rusher that seems
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of games not to at least have one.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they don't hand them the ball very often. I
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  Speaker 5: think that would be my you know, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: I wonder, you know, is his estimate and alcatraz I mean,
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  Speaker 5: get him out, you know, pre Audric would be my
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  Speaker 5: t shirt of the day. But uh, you know, look,
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  Speaker 5: Jamonte Williams has come back from the injury. Was nothing
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  Speaker 5: short of remarkable, and he deserves every ounce of credit,
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  Speaker 5: you know, rose pedals whatever for doing it, because a
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  Speaker 5: lot of guys wouldn't have done it.
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  Speaker 7: But eight of his last.
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  Speaker 5: Twelve carries over two games have gone for zero or
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  Speaker 5: negative yards eight or twelve.
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: And so something happening when he's in the line either
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  Speaker 5: not handling business up front. He's missing the whole combination
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  Speaker 5: of both that working, but that part of the game
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  Speaker 5: is missing. And they're consistently sort of second down runs
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  Speaker 5: go nowhere, so suddenly you're in a third down you
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  Speaker 5: don't want to be in, you know. And last night
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  Speaker 5: they had what that a nineteen second possession and a
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  Speaker 5: forty second possession Because they get so out of whack
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  Speaker 5: about the run game, they just throw it three times
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  Speaker 5: three incompletions and they're punting, and that's just not a
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  Speaker 5: way you can live in the big games.
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  Speaker 1: He couldn't help himself. Sean just couldn't help himself. He
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  Speaker 1: got excited, he knew his guy was having a night,
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  Speaker 1: and he just couldn't help himself. That's my opinion, Jeff.
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  Speaker 5: No, And I think you know, I I know defensive
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  Speaker 5: coordinators in the league who who call guys, they say,
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  Speaker 5: guys take a field trip on the playsheet.
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  Speaker 7: They want to get to it all. And you know, Sean's.
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  Speaker 5: Playsheet is legendary, big, it's drive in movie size, and
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  Speaker 5: I think sometimes he really does want to get to
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  Speaker 5: a lot of it because he feels good about the plan,
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  Speaker 5: as any coach would. You're always going to feel good
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  Speaker 5: about your plan. And I think his desire to rotate
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  Speaker 5: personnel groupings and stress the defense that way sometimes gets
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  Speaker 5: away from from rhythm or or what is needed in
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  Speaker 5: that moment. But you know, again, he's he's coached this
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  Speaker 5: way a long time and had a lot of success,
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  Speaker 5: so it's going to be hard for him to to
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  Speaker 5: sort of step away from that.
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  Speaker 6: Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: If I may, I want to take you back to
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  Speaker 3: your childhood oh, when you're a young kid on the couch.
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  Speaker 3: A movie, an inn, a movie, animated movie hit the
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  Speaker 3: big screen, and there was a big part of big
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  Speaker 3: part of the movie when all sudden Pinocchio got his
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  Speaker 3: strings cut by Giuseppe or giuseppepett. Think I knew it
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  Speaker 3: was over the g by Geppetto. It sure seemed like
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  Speaker 3: last night that maybe some strings were cut, even on
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  Speaker 3: some of the dumb throws.
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  Speaker 6: I was excited that.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, the robot left the room for a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and I even saw you know, roll out right try
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  Speaker 3: to cross it all the way back to the left,
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  Speaker 3: gets broke up of a bad pass. But it felt
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  Speaker 3: like strings were cut a little bit more last night
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  Speaker 3: for bo Nicks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe some out of necessity. You know, that's sort
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  Speaker 5: of the game. You're in, this frantic this frantic game.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, it is their first pass play over
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  Speaker 5: fifty yards all season. It's probably the first game if
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  Speaker 5: I go back here and look at my charts where
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  Speaker 5: you know, his most completions were not one to ten yards,
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  Speaker 5: it was you know, other categories. That's probably the first
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  Speaker 5: time that's happened this year. So there was you know,
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  Speaker 5: and he's been far more comfortable in the mid range,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the mid rats jumper as it were, than
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  Speaker 5: he has been. And I will say the one thing
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  Speaker 5: that sort of still flags for me is and what
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  Speaker 5: he's doing is needed, and it is part of the
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  Speaker 5: growth is you're willing to trust the receiver coming out
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  Speaker 5: of the break. You know, anticipatory throws haven't been you know,
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  Speaker 5: he hasn't had those very often this year, and then
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  Speaker 5: they're getting more and more as the games progress here
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  Speaker 5: and a lot of that is trust that you know
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  Speaker 5: the receiver's going to be there. But in the latest
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  Speaker 5: round of data, the Broncos only have one receiver in
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  Speaker 5: the top eighty eight players in the league, one in
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  Speaker 5: tight window targets. So bow Knicks trusts one guy in
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  Speaker 5: those situations and it's Courtland Sutton, who's thirteenth in.
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  Speaker 7: That category in the league.
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  Speaker 5: So that that has to change a little bit as
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  Speaker 5: the games get better, because people are going to give
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  Speaker 5: Courtland more and more attention and it's going to test
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  Speaker 5: what you're talking about. Scotty his willingness to make the throw.
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  Speaker 5: Lay always used to say, you want the guy who
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  Speaker 5: takes care of the ball, but you also want the
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  Speaker 5: guy who makes the throw to win you the game.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like there's a lot of rookie quarterbacks out
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  Speaker 4: there playing, so the you know, the competition is small.
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  Speaker 4: But passing yards, bo Nicks's first with twenty eight hundred
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  Speaker 4: and forty two passing touchdowns, seventeen first completions, first two
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  Speaker 4: seventy seven, passer rating eighty seven to nine first downs
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty six, both second in those categories.
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  Speaker 7: Is her offense attempts resilient? He's is he's one or
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  Speaker 7: two in attempts? Right?
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  Speaker 6: I don't have that, so I'll take your word for it.
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  Speaker 6: I just don't know.
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  Speaker 7: He's busy, he's got the keys to the car right now.
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  Speaker 6: Is he the offensive rookie of the year.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I will tell you, I mean quarterback. Degree of
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  Speaker 5: difficulty matters. I think in all those awards and nothing,
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  Speaker 5: nothing has the degree of difficulty probably for a rookie
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  Speaker 5: you've had a quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: But Brock Bowers is being historical right now.
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  Speaker 5: And if you're just going by whatever, or you know,
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  Speaker 5: Jared Vers is probably having as good a rookie season
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  Speaker 5: as bow Knicks. But he plays defensive tackle, so nobody cares.
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  Speaker 5: But I think there are guys playing to bow Nix's
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  Speaker 5: level and maybe even a little higher, But the fact
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  Speaker 5: he plays quarterback could could well get him a very
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  Speaker 5: nice trophy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and plus, just be honest, there was a prejudice
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  Speaker 3: against him coming in being the sixth of six quarterbacks drafted.
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  Speaker 4: Is it a fair expectation that the Broncos make the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs right now? Meaning it would be disappointing right now,
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  Speaker 4: starting today if they didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean there's there's only one other team
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  Speaker 5: with more than five wins in the AFC, and it's
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  Speaker 5: the Colts, and they play them next.
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  Speaker 7: So they beat the Colts, it's pretty hard to knock
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  Speaker 7: them out of the playoffs at that point.
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  Speaker 6: Pretty cool, all right, Jeff? What a fun ride? You
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  Speaker 6: got any plans for the break doing anything fun?
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  Speaker 7: I think they're gonna keep me busy. I don't think
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  Speaker 7: they're Oh, you know, Broncos.
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  Speaker 6: Broncos are a hot team, even in the bye week.
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  Speaker 7: Huh.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there's they always got me doing a little something.
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  Speaker 5: They got a little thing called the draft I have
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  Speaker 5: to mess around with too. But uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: just thought of this today, and it's a funny number
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  Speaker 5: for you guys to kick around. But the Broncos have
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  Speaker 5: outscored the Chiefs and surrendered one fewer point, So there
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  Speaker 5: you have it.
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  Speaker 4: Numbers are nutty, and a comment on Shanny getting passed
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  Speaker 4: over ridiculous.
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  Speaker 7: But that's just me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm only one guy on the committee, but it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: He beat the guy that's up head to head. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what more you want, but anyway it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bona fide walk. He's getting in right.
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  Speaker 5: But if he doesn't, my head will explode in a
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  Speaker 5: meeting and it will be very big news.
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  Speaker 3: But why are you hearing any reasons? Why not? Now?
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  Speaker 5: You never really do Scotty at this point in the process.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Holmgren's just a finalist at this point, so
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  Speaker 5: he hadn't made.
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  Speaker 7: It in yet.
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  Speaker 5: But uh no, it's just ridiculous. I mean, just start
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  Speaker 5: the list that you know. I'm not sure there's another
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  Speaker 5: coach I've ever heard of that had three first generation
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  Speaker 5: assistants take teams to Super Bowls and two of them
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  Speaker 5: won it. His offense is half the league is running
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  Speaker 5: his offense. I mean, the guy's Obi Wan for modern football.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what people want, man he won two
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  Speaker 5: in a row.
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  Speaker 1: So but hey, Mike Holgrin's got a coaching tree also,
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  Speaker 1: and he's probably worthy of it. He's got Andy Reid,
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  Speaker 1: he's got growed In, he's got all the coaches that
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  Speaker 1: came underneath Andy Reid. But even his coaching tree isn't
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  Speaker 1: even comparable to Mike Shanahans.
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  Speaker 5: No again, Tyler, I don't know of many coaches who
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  Speaker 5: had three different first generation assistants guys who were on
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  Speaker 5: his staff take teams to Super Bowls, and two of
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  Speaker 5: the guys won it. So it just remarkable. I, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I He's a Hall of Famer in every way, and
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  Speaker 5: usually almost always people like that get in. It's just
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  Speaker 5: never the timetable any of us would like.
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  Speaker 6: All Right, we appreciate thank you, Jeff, Jeff Legwall.
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