Latest / O'Brien & Doug / O'Brien & Doug Ep132 [January 5, 2023 Sunshine, Lollipops & Puppies]
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- 0:01SPEAKER_02: Nope, the pipes are the pipes, you know, you know.
- 0:04SPEAKER_01: You know it's podcast.
- 0:05SPEAKER_02: You know it's podcast time when the pops piping.
- 0:08SPEAKER_02: The pops piping?
- 0:09SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 0:10SPEAKER_02: I said what I said.
- 0:14SPEAKER_01: I know what you meant.
- 0:17SPEAKER_02: It's a good thing somebody does.
- 0:20SPEAKER_01: Hello, children.
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by MosherMultimedia.com.
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: KMH Music in Prescott, Maine.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: The Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine, and my cousin.
- 0:35SPEAKER_07: We do the dance of jokes.
- 0:47SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the O'Brien Duck Podcast.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: I'm a running.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: I'm Doug.
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: It's uh I almost I almost said season something, but we don't do seasons anymore.
- 0:55SPEAKER_01: We don't do seasons anymore.
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: Uh it's it's winter.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: It is winter.
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: Well, you would think it was winter.
- 1:00SPEAKER_01: Well it is we're not we're not really sure.
- 1:01SPEAKER_02: It is January, but I was I was talking to a lady today that uh she just moved to the area.
- 1:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and she's like, I heard this is an unusual winter, and I'm thinking, oh yeah.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, you you're getting lucky.
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: In the 40s, and we got very little snow.
- 1:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:16SPEAKER_01: Um my daughter texted me um from West Virginia.
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: Now, West Virginia obviously is south of here, so their their temperatures will be will be a little bit warmer than ours anyway.
- 1:29SPEAKER_02: But it's more mountainous.
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: It is, and and there is a of course my phone is not working now.
- 1:35SPEAKER_01: There is a um I was just looking for the message, my goodness.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: It is cold down there, or it can be.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: Um, but she said that she actually sent a snapshot or screenshot of her weather app, 61.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: In West Virginia.
- 1:54SPEAKER_01: She must be suffering.
- 1:55SPEAKER_01: She says it was supposed to be 67 today.
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: She's like, that's not normal.
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: It'll be like this until the this weekend, and then it's 30s and 40s.
- 2:03SPEAKER_01: It was colder than that last year.
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, I guess global warming.
- 2:09SPEAKER_01: Kick him in.
- 2:10SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 2:10SPEAKER_01: I don't but I'll take it.
- 2:11SPEAKER_02: Well I well, I stand outside every night with a hairspray and I just spray it into the sky.
- 2:19SPEAKER_01: That does the trick, right?
- 2:21SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
- 2:21SPEAKER_01: So wait, we have you to thank.
- 2:23SPEAKER_02: You're welcome, world.
- 2:28SPEAKER_01: Um Yeah, no, I'll take it.
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: The only thing I I don't like is uh, you know, our industries are suffering a little bit.
- 2:37SPEAKER_01: You know, the snowmobile industry tourism industry skiing and all that stuff.
- 2:41SPEAKER_01: It's uh it's kind of a bummer.
- 2:43SPEAKER_02: But um but I'm I I may get uh you know crucial for saying this, but uh they're kind of annoying.
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: Ski people and snowmobile people?
- 2:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:56SPEAKER_02: Kind of annoying.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: Um I'm not gonna disagree.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: What but explain yourself.
- 3:00SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know, they just bug me.
- 3:08SPEAKER_02: But he doesn't like everything about skiing all the time.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 3:12SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 3:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:14SPEAKER_02: But you know, people, you know, people that oh, you know, they get, you know, this like the snowmobilers, they they have like the they have like, you know, I don't know, spacesuits.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: And it's all all like a brand.
- 3:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and the the brand, you know, the big boots, and I got an Articac 350 and then go 75 miles an hour.
- 3:32SPEAKER_02: Why do you want to go 75 miles an hour in something that you have no protection?
- 3:38SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 3:39SPEAKER_02: It doesn't make any sense to me.
- 3:41SPEAKER_01: Because it's fun.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, I mean I can see the I can see that.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: I'm playing devil's advocate right now because I completely agree with you.
- 3:47SPEAKER_02: Because I had a when I was a kid, we had a we had an old bombardier bombardier.
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: Bombardier.
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: Bombardier.
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: I love how I love how they changed it.
- 3:55SPEAKER_01: Because it used to be Bombardier.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: Bombardier, now it's always now it's always Bombardier.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, of course.
- 4:00SPEAKER_02: That's when the hippie, you know, the yuppies got a hold of it.
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: It probably was always Bombardier, but probably whatever.
- 4:05SPEAKER_02: But you know, we had one of those and it would go like, you know, 10 miles an hour, I think.
- 4:09SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 4:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 4:10SPEAKER_02: You know, I used to just drive it around in the back fields.
- 4:12SPEAKER_02: Right, that's fun.
- 4:13SPEAKER_02: And it was fun.
- 4:14SPEAKER_02: I had a great time with it.
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: Bob fell off of it once.
- 4:16SPEAKER_02: Did he?
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: I didn't even realize it for like half a mile.
- 4:20SPEAKER_02: I think I went around to say something to him, and I was like, oh, Bob's on here.
- 4:24SPEAKER_02: So I'd turn around and go.
- 4:26SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what he remembers.
- 4:27SPEAKER_02: I'm picturing that right now.
- 4:32SPEAKER_02: GJ?
- 4:34SPEAKER_02: What you doing?
- 4:35SPEAKER_02: Ozer.
- 4:37SPEAKER_02: No.
- 4:37SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 4:38SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 4:39SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, I feel bad because, you know, like where we play it depends a lot on, you know, the ski season.
- 4:45SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 4:46SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, so I feel bad about that.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: I do too.
- 4:48SPEAKER_02: But I mean, just I don't know, the whole culture.
- 4:51SPEAKER_02: I think it's the culture of the thing.
- 4:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: It is a religion.
- 4:54SPEAKER_02: It oh, it is.
- 4:55SPEAKER_02: You know, they you know, they pray to the altar of snow, you know, and it's like, oh well, you know.
- 5:00SPEAKER_01: I like snow for Christmas.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: I I would like to have I would like to have a snowstorm uh in December and give us a white Christmas.
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: And then I'd even take it into the middle of January and then just let it go.
- 5:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's fine.
- 5:15SPEAKER_02: It can go away.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: It's not going to course this Christmas was not good.
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: Not at all.
- 5:21SPEAKER_02: For you, especially.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: I mean, that was mad, man.
- 5:23SPEAKER_01: It was it was uh well, you know, I mean it could have been a lot worse.
- 5:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it could have been.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: Because we're we're pretty blessed.
- 5:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:29SPEAKER_01: Um, so I I don't want to I'm not looking for pity or anything.
- 5:31SPEAKER_01: But we uh so Friday night we had that what did they call it?
- 5:35SPEAKER_01: A bomb cyclone.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: Bomb cyclone, yeah.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: I thought it was a nor'easter, but it was a windstorm.
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: Oh, that was wicked.
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: And it but it was coming from what a direction that doesn't usually come from.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: I think it was coming from the south or something.
- 5:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:47SPEAKER_01: It was going a weird direction.
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: Anyway, uh a lot of people lost power.
- 5:51SPEAKER_01: Um, but they came back on pretty, pretty quickly.
- 5:54SPEAKER_01: A lot of people didn't.
- 5:55SPEAKER_01: Uh there were, you know, depending on where you were.
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: Um, but we lost power Friday night at around six.
- 6:02SPEAKER_01: We were eating, it was kind of funny.
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: We were eating dinner, um, sitting around the table, and the power went out.
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: And so it was like, oh, let's light some candles.
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: Because we figured, because it was loud.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: I mean, the wind was ridiculous.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: Our house was like shaking.
- 6:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: And uh so we said, well, so light some candles.
- 6:19SPEAKER_01: So we lit some candles, we're sitting around the table, and then and then the uh electricity came back on.
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: We're like, oh, okay.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: But my daughter was like, I kind of like it.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: Can we turn the lights out?
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: So we're like, yeah, sure, go ahead.
- 6:31SPEAKER_01: So we turned the lights out, and I said, From this point on, I want uh you to call me Pa, and I want you to call her Ma.
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: And I want you to go fetch the horses as soon as we're done.
- 6:42SPEAKER_01: Go slop the hogs.
- 6:43SPEAKER_01: But then the power went out again, and my son Finn, and actually I think Myra saw it a little bit too, said he was uh looking out the window and there was a spark.
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, that's not good.
- 6:55SPEAKER_01: So in the middle of this windstorm, like literal, I mean, we couldn't even walk in this windstorm, it was ridiculous.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: We walked down to the end of our driveway, which was probably pretty dangerous considering the there was a tree that fell directly on our power line.
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:14SPEAKER_01: Uh it was a tree from the neighbor's yard, but you know, we live right, I mean, it's kind of almost our property as well.
- 7:21SPEAKER_01: But it was right on it in a it um like the box blew or something.
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: Oh transformer.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: Transformer blue or something like that.
- 7:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: At least that's what we think happened.
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: So um our whole side of the road was out of power.
- 7:37SPEAKER_01: So and we we're prepared for things like that to a certain extent.
- 7:42SPEAKER_01: I mean, we have a generator that powers our pellet stove and our refrigerator uh and our freezer down here.
- 7:51SPEAKER_01: Um but that's it.
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: So we didn't have any water or any heat.
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: And this is the day before Christmas Eve.
- 7:57SPEAKER_01: So we just said, let's just go get our stuff, because uh our my in-laws down the road had power.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: So let's just go down there because I don't know if you know this or not, uh Rachel, my sister-in-law, and her family drove up from North Carolina.
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: So they were here for Christmas.
- 8:13SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I did know that.
- 8:14SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
- 8:15SPEAKER_01: So so let's just go play with the cousins.
- 8:17SPEAKER_01: So we packed uh bags real quick, some sleeping bags, and we said we'll just we'll just stay at Nana's tonight.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: So we drove down to Nana's and and that's what we did.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: And then got up the next morning.
- 8:29SPEAKER_01: It was Christmas Eve and took showers and everything.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: I came back uh up to the house to make sure the generator was still going, put some gas in it, and we ran the generator all day and the kids wanted to sleep at our house so that they could have Christmas morning.
- 8:51SPEAKER_01: So we came back and uh froze to death Saturday night.
- 8:56SPEAKER_02: It got cold, man.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: It got cold.
- 8:58SPEAKER_01: Uh we do have a space heater, but that didn't really help, and the pellet stove only helped a little bit.
- 9:03SPEAKER_01: Um but we took those sleeping bags that we took down to Nana's and we doubled up.
- 9:08SPEAKER_01: Everybody had like two sleeping bags on top of them and stuff like that.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: So it was it was okay, but it was cold.
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: Um we woke up the next morning and opened our presents and then went right back down to Nana's.
- 9:20SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 9:21SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 9:21SPEAKER_01: And uh opened some more presents and stayed there there the whole day, uh Christmas, and God bless those linemen.
- 9:28SPEAKER_01: Um and we found out one of the reasons because we were almost 48 hours without power.
- 9:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 9:34SPEAKER_01: And one of the reasons was and because we called them several times, we said, I mean, the tree is over the road.
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: It's it's kind of dangerous.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: I mean, somebody drove under that and that that gave way, they could fall on top of them.
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: And we called them several times and told them that.
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: And but because there were so few people affected by this power outage by by on this road that it was last in line.
- 9:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that sucks.
- 10:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so but we understood, and then and then so the lineman came out about 3 30 uh Sunday, Christmas Day, and gave us power back, and I went out there with a bottle of wine, and I said, Um, I said, I only have one bottle, so you're gonna have to share it.
- 10:20SPEAKER_01: And the guy goes, I can't take it anyway, it's transporting.
- 10:24SPEAKER_01: You know, I said, Oh, all right, that's too bad.
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: He said, But uh, you know, think of us while you're enjoying it, and I said, I'll I will.
- 10:30SPEAKER_01: And then the guy that's in the bucket truck comes comes down, right?
- 10:34SPEAKER_01: And I said, He won't take this.
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: I I want to offer it to you too.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: And he says, Oh no, I wish I could.
- 10:39SPEAKER_01: He says, I tell you what, put it in the woods over there.
- 10:46SPEAKER_01: How smart.
- 10:48SPEAKER_01: I didn't, obviously, but uh we were very appreciative.
- 10:51SPEAKER_01: I know they were working hard and tour on Christmas Day.
- 10:54SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, absolutely.
- 10:54SPEAKER_01: Well, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, you know, all day long.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: And all that and I don't know that they did it at night, but maybe they did.
- 11:00SPEAKER_02: Well, I I'd uh I'd see them driving by like um like late, you know.
- 11:07SPEAKER_02: Not late, late, but you know, it was after supper.
- 11:10SPEAKER_02: I mean, like I would they were still out.
- 11:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:12SPEAKER_02: So, you know, doing what they could.
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: Obviously they could not they could not work in the conditions Friday night.
- 11:19SPEAKER_01: No, you know, it's dangerous, but yeah, you gotta you gotta wait for that storm to pass.
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: So so but we were very appreciative that uh we finally got power back and and as you can see we got heat back because the pops are piping.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: The pops are piping.
- 11:33SPEAKER_02: Good for the pops.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it was a it was a weird but memorable Christmas.
- 11:37SPEAKER_01: My daughter and uh my son came home from wherever they were.
- 11:42SPEAKER_01: Well, Jude Jude's been home for a little while.
- 11:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was about to say he's been home for a couple weeks.
- 11:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he's not home now.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: He Oh, do you leave already?
- 11:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he went to the Pats game over the weekend with his his girlfriend's family has a camp down in New Hampshire.
- 11:54SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: So they're s they're still at the camp or the condo, I guess.
- 11:58SPEAKER_02: No, it's oh well, you know, in Maine you have camps.
- 12:02SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 12:02SPEAKER_02: New Hampshire, you have condos.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 12:04SPEAKER_02: Or I'm sorry, lake houses.
- 12:06SPEAKER_02: Honey, let's go to the lake house and hang out and uh talk to the birds.
- 12:11SPEAKER_01: That's where they are.
- 12:12SPEAKER_01: They're at the lake house.
- 12:13SPEAKER_02: We're at the lake house.
- 12:14SPEAKER_01: And then they saw um Mac Jones defeat the Dolphins uh with the rest of the Patriots, obviously.
- 12:20SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 12:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 12:20SPEAKER_01: Patriots did win, didn't they?
- 12:21SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 12:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like two points.
- 12:23SPEAKER_02: Oh, I thought they did.
- 12:24SPEAKER_02: So they kind of needed that if they want to stay alive.
- 12:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: So he's coming back uh either Thursday or Friday and then leaving for Michigan on Saturday morning.
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, there we go.
- 12:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 12:34SPEAKER_01: And Olivia had a crazy flight in.
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I saw I was following her on Instagram.
- 12:39SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was crazy.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: It was ridiculous.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: But I don't want to get into that though, because that I mean this podcast is about music.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: So uh but it was a it was a memorable, challenging but memorable Christmas for I don't know if it was for you as well or Well, it was kind of a sucky one.
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 12:53SPEAKER_02: Well I mean, you know, our our friend Tammy passed the week before.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: This is true.
- 12:58SPEAKER_02: And then my uncle passed away.
- 13:00SPEAKER_02: Uh cousin Larry's dad passed away on Wednesday.
- 13:04SPEAKER_02: Oh, I didn't know that.
- 13:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so uh, you know, it was kind of a Oh wasn't a great deal for the family.
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: So Well, uh cousin Larry, if you're listening, which I know you are, yeah, uh my condolences.
- 13:15SPEAKER_01: That sucks, man.
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:17SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
- 13:19SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't a great holiday.
- 13:21SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 13:22SPEAKER_01: It doesn't sound like it.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: But 2023 is gonna be a great year.
- 13:25SPEAKER_01: Who says?
- 13:26SPEAKER_01: I'm guessing.
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 13:28SPEAKER_02: I think we said that last year.
- 13:30SPEAKER_01: Didn't we?
- 13:30SPEAKER_01: We did, yeah.
- 13:30SPEAKER_02: Well, I think we say it every year.
- 13:32SPEAKER_02: I think I think just as the optimists that we are.
- 13:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:38SPEAKER_02: Because you know, if you're if you're an avid listener to this podcast, you know we're always positive about it.
- 13:44SPEAKER_02: Always positive about everything is everything is sunshine and rainbows and puppies.
- 13:49SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 13:50SPEAKER_02: So we're just, you know, happy go like.
- 13:54SPEAKER_02: Isn't that a song?
- 13:55SPEAKER_01: Sunshine.
- 13:56SPEAKER_02: Sunshine and sunshine and lollipops and something, something like that.
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, isn't it Leslie Gore?
- 14:02SPEAKER_02: It could be.
- 14:03SPEAKER_02: It's a woman.
- 14:04SPEAKER_01: It is sunshine, lollipops, and something, something, something, something because we have the technology.
- 14:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:10SPEAKER_01: Sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows.
- 14:14SPEAKER_02: Is it sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows?
- 14:15SPEAKER_01: Sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows.
- 14:17SPEAKER_01: And I was right, it is Leslie.
- 14:17SPEAKER_01: It's Leslie Gore.
- 14:19unknown: Wow.
- 14:20SPEAKER_02: Catherine.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: So easily distracted.
- 14:26SPEAKER_03: Everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together.
- 14:32SPEAKER_02: Let's start our new theme song.
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: That'll be our theme song for the 2023.
- 14:47SPEAKER_01: That's the name of the podcast.
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: What?
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: Sunshine, rainbow, sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows.
- 14:51SPEAKER_02: Why the I like can we put puppies in there?
- 14:55SPEAKER_01: Sunshine, lollipops, and puppies.
- 14:56SPEAKER_02: There we go.
- 14:57SPEAKER_01: There we go.
- 14:58SPEAKER_02: Good compromise.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, uh I want to talk about the well, actually, let's do yours first.
- 15:06SPEAKER_01: Uh just because I think that's a cool topic.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: Oh, we haven't we haven't uh we haven't I don't know.
- 15:11SPEAKER_01: I think we may have talked about it briefly um in passing a couple podcasts before.
- 15:18SPEAKER_01: Um but this is a list.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: I forgot what it was.
- 15:21SPEAKER_02: Oh, there it is.
- 15:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:22SPEAKER_01: This is a list because we love our lists.
- 15:24SPEAKER_01: This one is not from ultimate classicrock.com.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: This is from Society of Rock.
- 15:29SPEAKER_02: Society of Rock.
- 15:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 15:31SPEAKER_02: So you know it's in it's a different uh offshoot.
- 15:34SPEAKER_01: So uh do you have the title right there?
- 15:37SPEAKER_02: Uh Ten Drummers Who Are Actually Great Singers.
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: Ten Drummers Who Are Actually Great Singers, and I bet you we can think of more than ten.
- 15:45SPEAKER_01: Um well, maybe we can't.
- 15:47SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 15:48SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 15:49SPEAKER_01: But if you think of some, leave them in the comments because or or message us because um we may have forgetting some.
- 15:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:55SPEAKER_02: But this is uh Society of Rock.
- 15:57SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
- 16:00SPEAKER_01: I can think of like two or three off the top of my head.
- 16:02SPEAKER_02: Well, oh yeah.
- 16:03SPEAKER_02: I think anybody, you know, I think if you just like if you just you know, I think we all know one anyway.
- 16:09SPEAKER_02: Um Dave.
- 16:12SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, yeah, that's true.
- 16:13SPEAKER_01: So But does he is it are these singers that are playing the drums while it says drummers who are actually great singers.
- 16:21SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 16:22SPEAKER_02: That's the title.
- 16:23SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 16:23SPEAKER_02: Here's the little spiel.
- 16:25SPEAKER_02: Being a drummer in the band doesn't always mean you have to stay at the back.
- 16:29SPEAKER_02: These drummers prove that they can be the voice of their group or provide great full vocals as a solo singer.
- 16:37SPEAKER_02: We listed down ten drummers who also have an amazing voice.
- 16:40SPEAKER_02: Take a look below.
- 16:41SPEAKER_02: Number 10, Sheila E.
- 16:44SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 16:45SPEAKER_02: Which is absolutely true.
- 16:46SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 16:47SPEAKER_02: She is really great.
- 16:48SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 16:48SPEAKER_02: Uh Sheila E began her career in the mid-70s as a drummer and singer for the George Duke Band, which I've never heard of.
- 16:55SPEAKER_01: Neither have I.
- 16:56SPEAKER_02: She was dubbed as the Queen of Percussion in 1977.
- 17:00SPEAKER_02: She Wow.
- 17:01SPEAKER_02: In 1977, she met Prince.
- 17:03SPEAKER_01: 77?
- 17:04SPEAKER_02: 77.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 17:05SPEAKER_02: And would let her team up for Prince's Purple Rain recording sessions for which she provided the vocals on Erotic City in 1984.
- 17:12SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 17:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was nice.
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: Number nine.
- 17:15SPEAKER_01: Of course, you know Prince wrote her big hit.
- 17:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: Glamorous life.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 17:19SPEAKER_02: Number nine, Levon Helm.
- 17:22SPEAKER_01: Yep, from the band.
- 17:23SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 17:23SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 17:24SPEAKER_02: The late legendary drummer and vocalist for the band.
- 17:26SPEAKER_02: He had a soulful voice that was capable of performing rock and folk.
- 17:30SPEAKER_02: Most known for his songs, The Wait, Up on Cripple Creek, and The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down.
- 17:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and now he does sing while he plays.
- 17:38SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yes, he does.
- 17:39SPEAKER_02: Number eight, Karen Carpenter.
- 17:41SPEAKER_01: Oh, of course you gotta include Karen Carpenter.
- 17:43SPEAKER_02: Karen was a singer and drummer with her brother Richard under their band name The Carpenter.
- 17:47SPEAKER_02: She began playing drums in high school and became Carpenter's full-time drummer, but later took on the road of role of lead vocals.
- 17:55SPEAKER_02: Number seven.
- 17:56SPEAKER_02: Okay, this is this is a surprise.
- 17:58SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 17:58SPEAKER_02: Chris Cornell.
- 18:00SPEAKER_01: Is it drummer?
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: I did not know Chris Cornell was a good idea.
- 18:03SPEAKER_02: I did not know that either.
- 18:04SPEAKER_02: Many knew Chris Cornell is the front man for Soundgarden, but not a lot of people know that Cornell started off as the band's drummer in the 80s.
- 18:12SPEAKER_01: He was the drummer for Soundgarden.
- 18:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 18:14SPEAKER_02: Later in his life, he also became lead vocalist for groups like Audio Slave and Temple of the Dog.
- 18:19SPEAKER_02: So I didn't know that.
- 18:20SPEAKER_02: That was interesting.
- 18:22SPEAKER_02: Number six, I've never heard of this guy.
- 18:24SPEAKER_02: Anderson Pack.
- 18:26SPEAKER_01: Oh, I've heard the name.
- 18:27SPEAKER_02: Have you?
- 18:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm trying to think of what the band is.
- 18:29SPEAKER_02: He's a singer, rapper, songwriter, and drummer.
- 18:31SPEAKER_02: He is now part of the soulful group Silk Sonic, where he provides drums and vocals.
- 18:35SPEAKER_02: He's also played the drums at this year's Super Bowl halftime and performed with the likes of Dr.
- 18:40SPEAKER_02: Drain's Stupid Dog.
- 18:43SPEAKER_02: Never heard of him.
- 18:45SPEAKER_02: Number five.
- 18:46SPEAKER_02: Dave.
- 18:47SPEAKER_02: Dave Grohl.
- 18:48SPEAKER_02: Dave Grohl.
- 18:48SPEAKER_02: Dave Grohl.
- 18:49SPEAKER_02: Of course we all know by now.
- 18:50SPEAKER_02: Grohl rose to fame in the early 90s as the drummer of Nirvana after the passing of front man Kurt Cobain.
- 18:55SPEAKER_02: He started his own band, The Foo Fighters, for which he sings, writes songs, and plays guitar and continue to be the continued to be one of the most beloved musicians, which is true.
- 19:04SPEAKER_02: Number four, Ringo.
- 19:06SPEAKER_02: Ringo Stark.
- 19:07SPEAKER_02: Sir Richard Starkey was known as the drummer for the Beatles, but he also sang on some of the band's hits, including songs like Yellow Submarine and Octopus's Garden.
- 19:16SPEAKER_02: After they disbanded, Star fronted his own solo projects as both a drummer and lead singer.
- 19:22SPEAKER_02: Number three, Don Henley.
- 19:24SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 19:24SPEAKER_02: Henley is the founding member of the Eagles.
- 19:26SPEAKER_02: He was the group's drummer and co-league vocalist from 71 to 80.
- 19:30SPEAKER_02: Henley sang on the band's classics like Witchy Woman, Desperado, Hotel California, and many more.
- 19:36SPEAKER_01: Okay, so two or one.
- 19:38SPEAKER_01: It's gotta be Phil.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: He's number two.
- 19:41SPEAKER_01: He's number two.
- 19:42SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 19:42SPEAKER_02: Phil Collins.
- 19:43SPEAKER_02: Collins is an English drummer, singer, and songer, best known for his time in the band Genesis, which is just went under just underwent their final tour.
- 19:50SPEAKER_02: Started his solo career in 1981, known for his classic in the air tonight.
- 19:55SPEAKER_01: Alright, hold on.
- 19:56SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to think of who Who's number one?
- 20:00SPEAKER_01: Um because I would think Phil Collins would be at the top of my list as one that I think of automatically.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: You know, Don Henley would be up there.
- 20:09SPEAKER_01: Um and Dave Grohl, obviously.
- 20:12SPEAKER_02: I actually thought Dave was gonna be number one.
- 20:14SPEAKER_02: So I was surprised to see him like in the mid.
- 20:16SPEAKER_01: So I'm trying to think of who number one would be.
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: Who is it?
- 20:21SPEAKER_01: Taylor Hawkins.
- 20:23SPEAKER_01: That's funny that you say that because I have Taylor.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: Singing Queen.
- 20:48SPEAKER_01: Still, we we we mentioned this Let's Podcast, it's difficult to watch him.
- 20:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 20:55SPEAKER_01: I don't know why, because I mean we've watched musicians that have passed away.
- 21:00SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 21:01SPEAKER_02: I think it's just because it was so unexpected.
- 21:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, maybe.
- 21:05SPEAKER_01: Alright, so read the write up on Taylor.
- 21:07SPEAKER_02: The late Taylor Hawkins was a touring drummer for Al Alanis Morissette before becoming full-time band member of the Foo Fighters.
- 21:13SPEAKER_02: He was also a lead singer for the up-and-coming up-and-coming rock band NHC.
- 21:19SPEAKER_02: Hawkins was a big fan of Queen and would often sing their songs during Foo Fighters concerts.
- 21:24SPEAKER_02: Match.
- 21:31SPEAKER_01: He was great.
- 21:32SPEAKER_02: He was he wasn't pretty good.
- 21:35SPEAKER_02: And that uh uh Hail to Satan, uh Satin, Hail to Satin album Oh yeah, the Foo Fighters cover.
- 21:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he did uh Shadow Dancing.
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: Did he really?
- 21:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was good probably.
- 21:48SPEAKER_02: It was really good.
- 21:49SPEAKER_01: Uh don't forget this guy.
- 22:04SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's a great singer, but we just discovered that uh Matt Sorum.
- 22:09SPEAKER_02: Oh, Matt Sorum can sing.
- 22:13SPEAKER_01: Of course, former former Grimson Roses drummer.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: And current drummer for Kings of Chaos.
- 22:18SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 22:18SPEAKER_01: Singing lead on that one, Judgment Day.
- 22:20SPEAKER_01: We we talked about that a couple podcasts ago.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so we'll say that.
- 22:23SPEAKER_01: That's the one of the first things that came to mind only because we had just talked about it.
- 22:26SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 22:26SPEAKER_01: So can you think of any other ones off the top of your head?
- 22:29SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to, but nothing's really coming to mind as of right now.
- 22:35SPEAKER_01: I think the ones that you mentioned on that list would be the first ones that pop in my head.
- 22:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 22:41SPEAKER_02: The only one I was surprised by was um uh Chris Cornell.
- 22:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, me too.
- 22:46SPEAKER_02: Which I didn't realize he was.
- 22:47SPEAKER_02: I had no idea.
- 22:47SPEAKER_02: He was the drummer, the first drummer of Soundgarden.
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 22:50SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
- 22:51SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 22:52SPEAKER_02: Um I was watching uh I was catching up uh on my viewing of the charamatic voice.
- 22:59SPEAKER_01: Charismatic voice charismatic voice.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:03SPEAKER_01: Is she dating like a member of the band?
- 23:06SPEAKER_01: Because she she talks about one band in particular quite a bit.
- 23:09SPEAKER_02: No, her husband she's married to some dude.
- 23:11SPEAKER_02: They just had a baby.
- 23:12SPEAKER_01: She's not married to the guy in the um I'm trying to think of the the band that she spends a lot of time on and is uh is very excited about.
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: Um it's a band I've never heard of.
- 23:28SPEAKER_01: But and it's almost it's uh I want to say it's m metal, but it's um you keep anyway, keep talking.
- 23:36SPEAKER_01: I'll see if I can find it point.
- 23:38SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
- 23:39SPEAKER_02: Well, she was uh she was uh, you know, because she does those vocal analysis of songs.
- 23:44SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 23:44SPEAKER_02: And she was doing um Spoon Man by uh Soundgarden.
- 23:49SPEAKER_01: Sound Guard, yeah, great song.
- 23:51SPEAKER_02: But the guy that they wrote about, he's actually on the song.
- 23:55SPEAKER_02: You can hear him playing spoons.
- 23:57SPEAKER_02: Really?
- 23:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I didn't know that.
- 23:59SPEAKER_02: I didn't either.
- 24:00SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was pretty cool.
- 24:01SPEAKER_02: Um she's so funny.
- 24:03SPEAKER_02: I I love watching her because she's so naive about metal.
- 24:07SPEAKER_01: But how much of that do you think is I don't know.
- 24:09SPEAKER_02: I I think it's pretty genuine because she she was doing Metallica.
- 24:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 24:14SPEAKER_02: And uh what'd she she what did she call Lars?
- 24:20SPEAKER_02: She called Lars a funny character.
- 24:24SPEAKER_02: Oh just her just the way she you know talks about these people, it's like, you know, we we would speak of Lars and like other terms, and she's like, Lars is such a funny character.
- 24:34SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I would never have put those two words together when I talk about Lars.
- 24:40SPEAKER_02: But uh I don't know.
- 24:41SPEAKER_02: She was just it was just kind of funny.
- 24:43SPEAKER_01: Um see, I'm not gonna be able to find it now.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: There was a there was a band that she kept coming back to because they were coming out with a new album or something, and it was really dark.
- 24:59SPEAKER_01: It was really um what's the word I'm looking for?
- 25:07SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but she she was very emotional about this band and and their music, and it was it was quite surprising to me.
- 25:21SPEAKER_01: Uh that because it was it was really dark.
- 25:24SPEAKER_01: Like um sinister.
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: Oh really?
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: Dark.
- 25:30SPEAKER_01: That is interesting.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: And and I'm looking in the metal, I'm looking at all her metal reviews, and it's not there.
- 25:39SPEAKER_01: This this band that she was talking about, and I wonder now I'm wondering if it was a uh because she's got them all organized into metal reactions and rock reactions and things like that.
- 25:51SPEAKER_01: And it wasn't that long ago that she was talking about uh this band.
- 25:59SPEAKER_01: Oh, there it is.
- 26:01SPEAKER_01: Lorna Shore is the name of the band.
- 26:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:04SPEAKER_02: I don't know anything about 'em.
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: Uh it was well, she this is the title of one of her videos, I couldn't stop crying.
- 26:13SPEAKER_01: Vocanal vocal analysis with isolated vocals of Lorna Shore's Pain Remains trilogy.
- 26:18SPEAKER_01: And if you watch some of the video that she plays, it's really twisted and sinister.
- 26:26SPEAKER_01: It's yeah.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know.
- 26:28SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I was I was surprised by that and I had not ho heard of Lorna Shore.
- 26:33SPEAKER_02: I yeah.
- 26:34SPEAKER_01: So I'm not sure if if uh I mean I don't know how much of that is put on.
- 26:40SPEAKER_01: Because if someone sends her a a thing and says, You need to do um you need to do a um vocal analysis of um I don't know, Stevie Ray Vaughn.
- 26:54SPEAKER_01: Okay, well I've never done Stevie Ray Vaughan.
- 26:56SPEAKER_01: Do you mean you've never heard Stevie Ray Vaughn?
- 26:58SPEAKER_01: And then she she has to say, I've never heard Stevie Ray Vaughn.
- 27:01SPEAKER_01: You know, or something like that.
- 27:04SPEAKER_01: And if you listen to music, or okay, Stevie Ray Von's probably not a good example.
- 27:10SPEAKER_01: She may not have heard Stevie Ray Von because she doesn't.
- 27:12SPEAKER_02: I don't think well, she might have, because she you know, she's she said that she only grew up on listening to like classical opera in some country.
- 27:21SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 27:22SPEAKER_02: And that was it.
- 27:23SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 27:23SPEAKER_01: But I mean, you know, you can't Okay, well maybe I'm not thinking of her because there are other people that do um first reactions.
- 27:32SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 27:33SPEAKER_01: You know, like uh like you ha you have um two uh two black hip hop guys that are reacting to Garth Brooks.
- 27:40SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 27:41SPEAKER_01: They've never heard Garth Brooks.
- 27:43SPEAKER_01: I suppose you may not have heard Garth Brooks.
- 27:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:47SPEAKER_01: But you th you've lived under a rock then because I mean somebody something like that, you know, obviously it's mainstream music.
- 27:55SPEAKER_01: Um Garth Brooks is a bad example because that's not mainstream uh it's country.
- 28:00SPEAKER_01: But I don't even know what I'm talking about here, Doug.
- 28:03SPEAKER_02: I just think some of the seeming to go off the rails here.
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think those some of those reaction videos are put on to a certain thing.
- 28:14SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 28:15SPEAKER_02: You know, so I don't know.
- 28:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because you you have to like is it appropriate?
- 28:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:19SPEAKER_01: Like is your you know, it's it's is it?
- 28:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's uh but I just like I just like listening to her because she's just she you know when she looks metal, yeah.
- 28:27SPEAKER_02: It's so funny because she's like, ooh, you know, she she's really into diphthongs.
- 28:32SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 28:33SPEAKER_02: And I'm always like, okay.
- 28:36SPEAKER_02: She's just and she and she like you know, and she, you know, people that you know um that I would think, you know, like she did not long ago, she did 2112.
- 28:46SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
- 28:47SPEAKER_02: Like the whole song.
- 28:48SPEAKER_01: It took her like an hour and a half to do the she must have a lot of cool things to say about Getty Lizard.
- 28:54SPEAKER_02: She was actually she was very complimentary of his voice and his range and you know phrasing and stuff like that.
- 29:00SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, she was just she was fascinated by the story.
- 29:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, because it's a 20-minute song.
- 29:06SPEAKER_01: We should give her a plug because I mean we we talked about her base uh just bro uh broadly, but it's the charismatic voice.
- 29:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:13SPEAKER_01: Uh do you know her?
- 29:14SPEAKER_01: Oh, Elizabeth Zarhoff.
- 29:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's she's an opera singer.
- 29:18SPEAKER_02: Zarhoff.
- 29:18SPEAKER_02: An opera singer and a vocal coach.
- 29:20SPEAKER_01: She's on YouTube, the charismatic at the charismatic voice.
- 29:23SPEAKER_01: I imagine she's probably on Facebook and Instagram.
- 29:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I follow her on Instagram.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: That's that's yeah, so um but yeah, she does a great job.
- 29:30SPEAKER_01: And I and I didn't mean to pick her apart, but I meant like I meant like uh reaction videos in general, because there's a lot of them.
- 29:36SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 29:37SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of people that are watching you know Metallica for the first time.
- 29:40SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 29:40SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I believe that.
- 29:41SPEAKER_02: Her, I might believe.
- 29:42SPEAKER_02: Well, I've seen I I watched one with kids watching Metallica.
- 29:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 29:46SPEAKER_02: It was hysterical.
- 29:48SPEAKER_02: It was so funny.
- 29:51SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 29:52SPEAKER_02: Um one kid was literally had his had his head down on the death table.
- 29:57SPEAKER_02: He was just drinking his hair.
- 29:59SPEAKER_02: I was just dying laughing.
- 30:03SPEAKER_02: Moth to a flame.
- 30:04SPEAKER_02: That's the one they were listening to.
- 30:05SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
- 30:07SPEAKER_01: Let's do this real quick because I don't know where we are with time.
- 30:11SPEAKER_01: Um time is irrelevant.
- 30:13SPEAKER_01: Um, this is another list for ultimate classicrock.com, and we've talked about this a little bit, but this goes into a little bit more detail.
- 30:20SPEAKER_01: 22 rock albums we might or might not get in 2023.
- 30:24SPEAKER_01: Rolling Stones.
- 30:26SPEAKER_01: Uh they recorded some other new material during sessions that produced their 2020 single, Living in a Ghost Town, and these songs may finally see release in 2023.
- 30:35SPEAKER_01: Keith Richards also revealed in March that they were holding their first sessions without Charlie Watts, who died in 2021.
- 30:41SPEAKER_01: So uh Steve Jordan was playing uh drums for them.
- 30:45SPEAKER_01: Of course, Steve Jr.
- 30:46SPEAKER_01: Of course he was.
- 30:47SPEAKER_01: Uh so it's interesting to see, it'll be interesting to see if we get some new uh Rolling Stones.
- 30:52SPEAKER_01: Uh Robert Plant said he and his band, the sensational space shifters, had roughly 40 different instrumental ideas back in 2019, all for a possible new album.
- 31:03SPEAKER_01: So let me let me stop there for a second because I I do want to share this.
- 31:09SPEAKER_01: I I wasn't going to Well, he was doing that stuff with Alison Krause.
- 31:12SPEAKER_01: He was.
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: But I want to share this because I didn't get any reaction from Common Crossing about this, which I didn't really expect.
- 31:19SPEAKER_01: Um but I was so it was so cool um over the break, I decided to and I told you about this a little bit.
- 31:31SPEAKER_01: I decided to try writing a song in a different way.
- 31:34SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 31:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:35SPEAKER_01: So before I get to the rest of these, because it just what what got me going there, of course it's a it's a uh A D D podcast.
- 31:43SPEAKER_01: Um Exactly is Robert Plant.
- 31:46SPEAKER_01: He says they have 40 different instrumental ideas back in 2019.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: Now I've always written songs.
- 31:52SPEAKER_01: I start with the lyrics and the melody.
- 31:54SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 31:54SPEAKER_01: And and play and play them to guitar, and then however they end up, you know, every little extra thing that we put in there is how the song ends up.
- 32:03SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 32:03SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 32:04SPEAKER_01: That's how I've always written songs.
- 32:05SPEAKER_01: That's not how most people write songs.
- 32:07SPEAKER_01: Most people write songs, like Robert Plant was just saying.
- 32:10SPEAKER_01: We have these instrumentals.
- 32:12SPEAKER_01: Eddie Van Halen would write the music, and then Sammy or Dave would come in and write the lyrics.
- 32:17SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 32:18SPEAKER_01: Uh I've never done it that way.
- 32:20SPEAKER_01: Uh I I don't know why.
- 32:22SPEAKER_01: I just have never done it that way.
- 32:23SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I get these uh drum loops, and the drum loops come um in a in a package, not a package, but a a file, and they have on them like VS, which means this is the drums for the verse.
- 32:40SPEAKER_01: Uh or C H.
- 32:41SPEAKER_01: This is the drums for the chorus section.
- 32:43SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 32:44SPEAKER_01: Uh sometimes they have a pre, like a pre-chorus.
- 32:47SPEAKER_01: Sometimes they have and then they have alternate versions of all of those.
- 32:51SPEAKER_01: And I've always, when I'm building a demo, I've always had the song written and um found a drum track that fit and would record the song with that drum track, and then I'd kind of throw some things in there just to make it interesting.
- 33:08SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 33:09SPEAKER_01: Uh, but I would build the song that was already written that way.
- 33:13SPEAKER_01: So I decided to take those loops and put them together and start with the drums.
- 33:19SPEAKER_01: So I had a four-minute drum track, knowing that it starts with an intro, goes to a brief chorus, goes to a verse, and then a chorus, and then a verse, and then a chorus, and then maybe a solo over the chorus, you know, or something like that.
- 33:36SPEAKER_01: So I built it that way.
- 33:37SPEAKER_01: And then I sat down with my I had an acoustic guitar, and I played the drum track, and I played the first thing that came to my mind.
- 33:48SPEAKER_01: It may have I may have been ripping somebody off, I don't know, but it was the first thing that came to my mind, and I just played it.
- 33:52SPEAKER_01: Didn't even think about it.
- 33:54SPEAKER_01: And it was like, wow, that's kind of cool.
- 33:57SPEAKER_01: So I recorded it on my phone, and then I went back and added a bunch of stuff, and like I added a bass guitar, so I put the bass on next, and then I added other guitars, and I did I did write a chorus for it, like lyrics, but the more I worked on it, the more I was like, you know, this is cool, but I don't really like it.
- 34:20SPEAKER_01: So I'm not gonna do anything with it, I don't think.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: Originally it was called uh Teenage Symphony, right?
- 34:27SPEAKER_01: And it was gonna be about how um the teenage years are tough, but you'll get through it.
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: You're the you're the one playing the music, you know, you're the one writing your own symphony, that type of thing.
- 34:40SPEAKER_01: So, but I'm I've since trashed it.
- 34:43SPEAKER_01: But I wanted to play it uh just because.
- 34:46SPEAKER_01: Did you even listen to it?
- 34:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 34:47SPEAKER_01: You did, okay.
- 34:48SPEAKER_01: Um I thought it was kind of cool.
- 34:51SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's not something that I would do.
- 34:54SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 34:55SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna play it here.
- 36:19SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna play the whole thing, but that's basically what.
- 36:21SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know what I hear?
- 36:22SPEAKER_01: What?
- 36:23SPEAKER_02: It's very Foo Fighter influence.
- 36:24SPEAKER_01: Is it really?
- 36:25SPEAKER_02: It's uh oh yeah.
- 36:29SPEAKER_01: Now I hear a little bit of DZ Top.
- 36:31SPEAKER_01: Do you hear Z top?
- 36:32SPEAKER_02: I I hear I hear definitely.
- 36:35SPEAKER_02: I don't hear Z top so much.
- 36:38SPEAKER_02: Um probably if I listen to it, you know.
- 36:41unknown: No.
- 36:41SPEAKER_02: But it's like it's like it's like if Nirvana put like a drum loop on a song.
- 36:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 36:51SPEAKER_02: I can hear right there.
- 36:53SPEAKER_02: That's what that hear that's the poof butter part.
- 36:55SPEAKER_02: Like that now that you say that, yeah.
- 36:58SPEAKER_02: Kinda like uh what was that song?
- 37:00SPEAKER_02: Uh Monkey Wrench.
- 37:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the name of the song.
- 37:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that kinda that kinda reminds me of that.
- 37:09SPEAKER_01: See, that's the uh ticket here on your left ear that guitar part.
- 37:15SPEAKER_01: Very easy to stuff.
- 37:16SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, no.
- 37:18SPEAKER_02: Oh, drum sound burning yeah.
- 37:25SPEAKER_01: I was happy with this guitar and point out here.
- 37:43SPEAKER_01: Isn't that cool?
- 37:44SPEAKER_01: I like that, yeah.
- 37:47SPEAKER_01: Um but again, it's not it's not coming crossing.
- 37:54SPEAKER_01: No.
- 37:54SPEAKER_01: It's not something that we would do.
- 37:55SPEAKER_01: And it's not something that I would do solo, probably.
- 37:58SPEAKER_01: It was just fun.
- 37:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just exercise.
- 38:06SPEAKER_01: Anyway, um so that's just I don't know why that that Robert Plant thing just got me thinking about that.
- 38:13SPEAKER_01: Uh so let's go back to where we were.
- 38:16SPEAKER_01: Ace Freely.
- 38:18SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 38:18SPEAKER_01: Maybe coming out with a with a new album.
- 38:22SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't know if I care.
- 38:25SPEAKER_02: I was about to say, I really I don't care.
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: I don't either.
- 38:29SPEAKER_01: ZZ Top.
- 38:31SPEAKER_01: Um, again, I love Z Z Top.
- 38:34SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure that I can.
- 38:36SPEAKER_02: What are they gonna do?
- 38:37SPEAKER_01: Right, right, because it it would have to be different.
- 38:39SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's gonna well.
- 38:41SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah.
- 38:42SPEAKER_01: I and don't get me wrong, I love Z Z Top.
- 38:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 38:45SPEAKER_01: Um anyway.
- 38:48SPEAKER_01: Aerosmith.
- 38:49SPEAKER_01: Now Steven Tyler has some some stuff going on right now.
- 38:55SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 38:55SPEAKER_01: Um Joe Perry says Aerosmith has quite a bit of archival material from every decade, so this will be like uh B sides box set live stuff, probably.
- 39:06SPEAKER_01: Peter Gabriel, which would be kind of neat, announced a 2023 tour of the UK and Europe in November, adding that the shows would include songs from a new album entitled I-O, which I'm assuming means In and Out.
- 39:19SPEAKER_02: Who knows with Peter Gabriel?
- 39:21SPEAKER_01: This would be the former Genesis Star's first studio effort since 2011's New Blood, and presumably presumably his first collection of all new original materials since 2002's up.
- 39:31SPEAKER_01: This is pretty cool.
- 39:32SPEAKER_01: Brian May and Eddie Van Halen did a thing called the Starfleet Project.
- 39:36SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 39:37SPEAKER_01: Uh Brian May says there's all kinds of uh other recordings from that session, so he's gonna release everything.
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: Including the mistakes, including the conversations, uh as a tribute to Eddie and the way he worked and stuff like that.
- 39:49SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of that'd be cool.
- 39:51SPEAKER_01: I would be I would pick that up.
- 39:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 39:52SPEAKER_01: Uh Mick Mars really is gonna do a solo album from Motley Crue.
- 39:57SPEAKER_01: Wow because he's he's out of the crew now.
- 39:59SPEAKER_01: Well, not out of the crew.
- 40:00SPEAKER_02: Um we kind of retired.
- 40:02SPEAKER_01: He did, but you know what?
- 40:03SPEAKER_01: I bet you he did the same thing, same type of thing that Steve Perry did with Journey.
- 40:07SPEAKER_01: Do you remember that?
- 40:08SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 40:09SPEAKER_01: Where he gets a paycheck even if he's not working.
- 40:12SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 40:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 40:13SPEAKER_02: But which he would.
- 40:14SPEAKER_02: He would.
- 40:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 40:15SPEAKER_02: Why not?
- 40:16SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, he's been talking about doing a solo album, so I'm not sure if that's gonna happen.
- 40:20SPEAKER_01: Mammoth uh WVH.
- 40:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 40:22SPEAKER_01: Wolfie is working on his, he supposedly is going to finish, he's about halfway through.
- 40:27SPEAKER_01: He's gonna finish it this month and hopefully release it this year.
- 40:30SPEAKER_02: This is not taking as long as the first one.
- 40:32SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
- 40:33SPEAKER_01: Uh Steve Perry uh suggested that fans wouldn't have to wait nearly as long for his next album as they did for the 2018 Traces, which was a comeback album almost 25 years in the making.
- 40:46SPEAKER_01: Um Michael Stipe from REM is talking about putting out a solo album.
- 40:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 40:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
- 40:55SPEAKER_01: Neil Young.
- 40:56SPEAKER_02: I mean, if it was with REM, I would be like, okay.
- 40:59SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 40:59SPEAKER_02: But just Michael Stipe, not care.
- 41:02SPEAKER_01: Neil Young?
- 41:02SPEAKER_01: No.
- 41:03SPEAKER_01: No, don't bother.
- 41:04SPEAKER_01: Springsteen.
- 41:07SPEAKER_01: And this is not to say anything derogatory about these artists, but just uh, you know, I've gotten been there.
- 41:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:13SPEAKER_02: It's like, you know, they're not I don't know.
- 41:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:16SPEAKER_01: Depeche mode.
- 41:19SPEAKER_02: Well, didn't we listen to something new from them not too long ago?
- 41:23SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't know.
- 41:26SPEAKER_01: Look, I'm reading the thing here.
- 41:27SPEAKER_01: Uh announcing the plan 2023 release of Memento More and an accompanying world tour.
- 41:33SPEAKER_02: Death comes for a song.
- 41:35SPEAKER_02: Oh no, what does it mean?
- 41:37SPEAKER_02: Oh, remember you will die.
- 41:38SPEAKER_01: Remember you will die.
- 41:40SPEAKER_01: Alice Cooper Band.
- 41:42SPEAKER_01: The original Alice Cooper Band.
- 41:44SPEAKER_01: Ah.
- 41:45SPEAKER_01: Members of the original Alice Cooper band, including guitarist Michael Bruce, bassist Dennis Dunaway, and drummer Neil Smith, have guested on his last three solo albums, and Cooper says there's more coming.
- 41:54SPEAKER_01: So hopefully they'll do a full album.
- 41:56SPEAKER_01: Dolly Parton admitted that she couldn't uh quite believe it when she was nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
- 42:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's doing a rock thing.
- 42:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's doing a rock album.
- 42:05SPEAKER_02: That'd be interesting.
- 42:07SPEAKER_01: Um Guns N' Roses.
- 42:11SPEAKER_01: Uh they still have a Slash says they still have a couple of epic songs left to release.
- 42:16SPEAKER_01: So I don't sure if that's gonna be So like a couple November rains or The Kinks, which would be interesting because they don't get along.
- 42:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 42:27SPEAKER_01: Um it's been decades since they released uh was 1994, was the last album they put out called To the Bone.
- 42:33SPEAKER_01: Uh they're writing new songs in 2019, adding that the Kinks were also co combing through the archives for unreleased material worthy of releasing or completing.
- 42:43SPEAKER_01: George Clinton.
- 42:45SPEAKER_02: I know that'll be interesting.
- 42:49SPEAKER_01: Uh in 2018, he had an album called Medicaid Fraud Dog.
- 42:55unknown: Man.
- 42:57SPEAKER_02: I would like to just spend like five minutes inside that guy's head.
- 43:02SPEAKER_01: Okay, here's a couple of interesting ones.
- 43:06SPEAKER_01: Um MC Five.
- 43:09SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 43:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Wayne Kramer announced in early 2022 that the reconstituted MC Five would release an album titled Heavy Lifting, their first in more than half a century.
- 43:19SPEAKER_01: I was supposed to say.
- 43:20SPEAKER_01: Producer Bob Ezrin's name was later attached to the project.
- 43:23SPEAKER_01: At one point it apparently had an October release date.
- 43:25SPEAKER_01: Kramer also shared a snippet of the title track, co-written by Rage Against the Machines Tom Morello, but the LP still hasn't arrived.
- 43:32SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 43:33SPEAKER_02: MC Five.
- 43:34SPEAKER_01: MC Five.
- 43:35SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 43:35SPEAKER_01: Bad Company.
- 43:37SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 43:38SPEAKER_01: It's now been more than forty years since Paul Rogers.
- 43:40SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize this.
- 43:41SPEAKER_01: It's now been more than forty years since Paul Rogers appeared on a new Bad Company record.
- 43:45SPEAKER_01: Those sessions have apparently been held along the way.
- 43:48SPEAKER_01: Rogers told Rock Band Reviews in twenty nineteen that Bad Company was in the studio, just kicking things around and seeing what we've got.
- 43:54SPEAKER_01: Mick Ralphs, uh, the guitar player, will not be part of it because he suffered a stroke in 2016.
- 44:01SPEAKER_01: And Bos Burrell passed in 2006.
- 44:04SPEAKER_01: Rogers and drummer Simon Kirk have replaced them with Howard Lease from Hart and Todd Ronning on more recent tours.
- 44:12SPEAKER_01: Now, Paul Rogers, the last Bad Company album that he was on, technically, was the double uh CD set, uh, the original Bad Company, which is basically greatest hits, but they did have three new songs.
- 44:33SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 44:33SPEAKER_01: Um, so but a f but an original album is gonna be the early 80s.
- 44:39SPEAKER_01: Last time that he was on an original full original album.
- 44:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 44:42SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 44:43SPEAKER_01: So that'll be kind of cool.
- 44:45SPEAKER_01: And finally, Extreme.
- 44:48SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 44:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they haven't released an LP since 2008, Saw Dads of De Rock.
- 44:53SPEAKER_01: Saw Dads of the Rock.
- 44:54SPEAKER_01: But uh they've hinted that their sixth album could be arriving soon.
- 44:57SPEAKER_01: It's like the news cycle is so quick you can't put out a whole record and not set it up, at least tease fans.
- 45:03SPEAKER_01: I kind of lead towards trickling it out a little bit, said Gary Sharone.
- 45:07SPEAKER_01: Uh he praised the contributions of Guitarist Nuno Betancourt.
- 45:11SPEAKER_01: I think this is some of the best stuff Nuno and I have written.
- 45:13SPEAKER_01: I think he would say the same thing.
- 45:14SPEAKER_01: There's only one Nuno, and he outdid himself on this record.
- 45:18SPEAKER_01: Um Betancourt told Eddie Trunk a couple years ago that Extreme probably have about three or four albums done because they kept scrapping material in favor of newer, better songs.
- 45:30SPEAKER_01: He even likened it to 1990's double platinum pornographities, saying Sharon refers to this album as porno two point oh every time he jokes about it.
- 45:40SPEAKER_01: So that's exciting.
- 45:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, wouldn't I would like to see it?
- 45:42SPEAKER_01: Because Nuno Betancourt is a genius.
- 45:44SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
- 45:44SPEAKER_01: He's a genius.
- 45:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 45:46SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 45:46SPEAKER_01: So there you have it.
- 45:48SPEAKER_01: 22 rock albums we might or might not get in 2023.
- 45:51SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, wait and see.
- 45:53SPEAKER_01: We wait and see, yeah.
- 45:55SPEAKER_01: Um, okay.
- 45:56SPEAKER_01: So let's do let me do this.
- 46:02SPEAKER_01: Alright.
- 46:03SPEAKER_01: It is time for the Legends Alphabet.
- 46:08SPEAKER_01: And this one happens to be the country legends alphabet.
- 46:12SPEAKER_01: Do you remember what uh oh by the way, Happy New Year?
- 46:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 46:16SPEAKER_02: Why don't we say that?
- 46:17SPEAKER_02: I think we just went right into it.
- 46:19SPEAKER_02: Because that's what we do.
- 46:20SPEAKER_02: That's what we do.
- 46:21SPEAKER_02: Because we know what we're doing.
- 46:22SPEAKER_01: No, we don't.
- 46:23SPEAKER_02: Do you know what letter it is?
- 46:24SPEAKER_02: Uh K.
- 46:25SPEAKER_01: Is it K?
- 46:26SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 46:33SPEAKER_01: That's right, because the man in black is big and this person.
- 46:39SPEAKER_02: We're not sponsored by K Dr.
- 46:41SPEAKER_01: This person belongs in this book.
- 46:43SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 46:43SPEAKER_01: Country Legends Alphabet by Beck or Becky Feiner.
- 46:47SPEAKER_02: It's Kenny Rogers, isn't it?
- 46:49SPEAKER_01: It is.
- 46:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:51SPEAKER_01: K is for Kenny Rogers.
- 46:53SPEAKER_01: After dabbling in rock and jazz, the gambler finally settled on taking his big country sound to a mainstream audience.
- 47:01SPEAKER_01: Famous for his duets with Dolly Parton and Lionel Richie.
- 47:04SPEAKER_01: Rogers enjoyed a career spanning fifty amazing years.
- 47:08SPEAKER_01: I don't know that a lot of people know uh where Kenny Rogers came from musically.
- 47:14SPEAKER_02: Um because it was kind of like a Conway Twitty.
- 47:17SPEAKER_02: Because Conway Twitty started out in rock.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: Right, yeah, in the in the in the 50s, right?
- 47:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 47:22SPEAKER_01: Um it's only make-believe.
- 47:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 47:25SPEAKER_01: Um, but a lot of people don't know that this is Kenny Rogers.
- 47:38SPEAKER_07: What conditions was in the first edition.
- 47:44SPEAKER_07: I'll come to the spot and with the sun.
- 48:07SPEAKER_01: So anyway, and then we went on to have this huge country career.
- 48:11SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 48:12SPEAKER_01: So, um, yeah.
- 48:14SPEAKER_01: Oh, and before I go on, I want to play one of my favorite Kenny Rogers songs.
- 48:21SPEAKER_01: You ever heard this song?
- 48:23SPEAKER_01: It's from a movie that he did.
- 48:25SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 48:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we played this.
- 48:27SPEAKER_01: Six pack.
- 48:28SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 48:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 48:29SPEAKER_01: Which was an awesome movie.
- 48:31SPEAKER_01: Terrible 80s movie, but it was awesome.
- 48:33SPEAKER_01: Because I watched it when I was a kid.
- 48:35SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 48:36SPEAKER_07: You can run, you can have never live inside.
- 48:39SPEAKER_07: Keep living your life.
- 48:40SPEAKER_01: If you're looking for something to do on a Sunday afternoon, watch watch the movie Six Pack.
- 48:45SPEAKER_01: It's good entertainment.
- 48:46SPEAKER_02: Have a six-pack ready.
- 48:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 48:48SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
- 48:49SPEAKER_01: Alright, let's do the Beatles.
- 48:51SPEAKER_01: Alright.
- 48:53SPEAKER_01: Wait, hold on.
- 48:53SPEAKER_01: So K?
- 48:54SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're never gonna get it.
- 48:55SPEAKER_01: I'm never gonna get it.
- 48:56unknown: No.
- 48:58SPEAKER_01: Is it one of those reaching things?
- 49:01SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
- 49:01SPEAKER_01: Like like the K is like the second letter in the first word or something.
- 49:06SPEAKER_02: It's part of the it's the first letter of the second word.
- 49:10SPEAKER_02: Alright, I'll never get it, so go ahead.
- 49:12SPEAKER_02: What is it?
- 49:13SPEAKER_02: K is for Sun King.
- 49:15SPEAKER_02: Oh.
- 49:16SPEAKER_01: I know the song very well.
- 49:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 49:18SPEAKER_01: But you're probably right, I wouldn't have got it.
- 49:20SPEAKER_02: No, I wouldn't have got it.
- 49:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 49:21SPEAKER_02: Uh everybody's laughing and everybody's happy in this dreamy little jingle that floats onto Abbey Road like a sunbeam.
- 49:30SPEAKER_02: Warm-hearted and weightless.
- 49:32SPEAKER_02: Adding to the summery vibe as a mix of Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese lyrics washing over you like the backdrop of a beach holiday.
- 49:42SPEAKER_02: Miyamore.
- 49:44SPEAKER_01: That was really in there.
- 49:45SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 49:46SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 49:56SPEAKER_01: This was such an awesome album.
- 49:58SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 49:59SPEAKER_02: I love this song, too.
- 50:00SPEAKER_01: Me too.
- 50:02SPEAKER_01: I think there's not a song on this album.
- 50:10SPEAKER_01: Well.
- 50:12SPEAKER_01: Me and Mr.
- 50:12SPEAKER_01: Mustard and Polythene Pam, I might be able to do without.
- 50:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but they have their quality.
- 50:16SPEAKER_02: They do, they have, yeah, yeah.
- 50:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they have their qualities.
- 50:18SPEAKER_01: They fit.
- 50:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 50:19SPEAKER_01: They fit.
- 50:20SPEAKER_01: But because they're they kind of run together with the other.
- 50:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 50:24SPEAKER_01: But other than that, I don't think there's a song on this album I don't like.
- 50:28SPEAKER_01: No, no.
- 50:30SPEAKER_01: We're talking about Abbey Road, obviously, in case you didn't know.
- 50:34SPEAKER_01: Anyway.
- 50:35SPEAKER_01: So there you have it.
- 50:36SPEAKER_01: Let's uh let's close that up so we can move on.
- 50:39SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 50:40SPEAKER_01: Roy Governor.
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- 50:48SPEAKER_01: Why not?
- 50:48SPEAKER_01: Let's do the live ads.
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- 53:15SPEAKER_02: I bet it is.
- 53:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 53:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I bet it is.
- 53:17SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
- 53:17SPEAKER_02: I have I have uh willful ADD.
- 53:22SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure that's a clinical term.
- 53:24SPEAKER_02: You just you just can't I just don't want to.
- 53:27SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 53:27SPEAKER_01: You just yeah.
- 53:28SPEAKER_02: It's more fun to be unfocused and just spontaneous.
- 53:32SPEAKER_02: I agree.
- 53:33SPEAKER_02: Oh, spontaneous ADD.
- 53:36SPEAKER_01: Spontaneous ADD.
- 53:37SPEAKER_01: That's the name of the podcast.
- 53:38SPEAKER_02: That's the no.
- 53:39SPEAKER_02: Well, isn't it?
- 53:40SPEAKER_01: No, no.
- 53:41SPEAKER_01: No.
- 53:41SPEAKER_01: I don't like that.
- 53:42SPEAKER_01: I like sunshine, lollipops, and puppies.
- 53:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do too.
- 53:46SPEAKER_01: But no, I was just I was like sunshine, lollipops and puppies with spontaneous ADPs.
- 53:51SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 53:51SPEAKER_01: That's a long title.
- 53:52SPEAKER_01: That's a long title.
- 53:54SPEAKER_01: I like it.
- 53:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 53:55SPEAKER_02: Uh well, we we can shorten it down to sad.
- 54:05SPEAKER_02: What's wrong with you, Doug?
- 54:06SPEAKER_02: I got sad.
- 54:07SPEAKER_02: Spontaneous ADD.
- 54:09SPEAKER_02: Spontaneous ADD.
- 54:11SPEAKER_02: I kind of like that.
- 54:12SPEAKER_02: I do too.
- 54:13SPEAKER_01: I do too.
- 54:14SPEAKER_02: I like maybe I should uh call Jordan Peterson, see if he can like start working into his like his clinical observations.
- 54:21SPEAKER_02: Why not?
- 54:22SPEAKER_02: Well, I'll just say, hey.
- 54:23SPEAKER_02: He's everywhere.
- 54:24SPEAKER_02: Hey Jordan, how about uh spontaneous AD?
- 54:26SPEAKER_02: And he'd be like, You're an idiot.
- 54:28SPEAKER_02: I'd be like, Yeah, thanks.
- 54:31SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
- 54:32SPEAKER_02: Have a great day.
- 54:35SPEAKER_02: Alright.
- 54:36SPEAKER_02: Sad.
- 54:36SPEAKER_02: Let's do uh sad.
- 54:38SPEAKER_01: Let's do the wall of tunes.
- 54:39SPEAKER_01: Let's let's climb the wall of tunes.
- 54:41SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 54:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's do uh let me grab my uh other one.
- 54:45SPEAKER_02: Other book here.
- 54:46SPEAKER_01: Alright.
- 54:46SPEAKER_01: While you do that, I'm gonna take my headphones off.
- 54:49SPEAKER_02: Let's see what uh Kay brings us in the uh hip hop legends.
- 54:53SPEAKER_01: Uh let's see.
- 54:54SPEAKER_02: I bet it's uh no, I don't know what Kay is for Lil Kim.
- 55:04SPEAKER_02: Oh don't be fooled by the name.
- 55:07SPEAKER_02: Little Kim is a giant of rap who flipped the script, unafraid to show what females could do in a male-dominated genre.
- 55:17SPEAKER_02: 2006, she became just the second female rapper to have three albums certified platinum.
- 55:24SPEAKER_01: You know the most Wasn't she married to Biggie?
- 55:28SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 55:28SPEAKER_01: The most I know about Lil Kim is her boob.
- 55:32SPEAKER_02: Her boob.
- 55:33SPEAKER_01: Her boob.
- 55:35SPEAKER_02: Was it British?
- 55:36SPEAKER_02: And electric?
- 55:37unknown: No.
- 55:38SPEAKER_01: No, it's not.
- 55:40SPEAKER_01: There was a time when she was like really, really popular that she would walk around.
- 55:45SPEAKER_01: She had this outfit.
- 55:46SPEAKER_01: Actually, most most of her outfits were like this where she had one boob hanging out.
- 55:52SPEAKER_01: There was a pasty on over over it.
- 55:54SPEAKER_02: I'm sure.
- 55:55SPEAKER_01: But it's like it was like actually hanging out.
- 55:59SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 56:00SPEAKER_01: Like this was covered, and this boob was out with a pasty.
- 56:04SPEAKER_01: And everywhere she went, that's what she wore.
- 56:06SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
- 56:07SPEAKER_01: So I was like, ah, it's little Kim.
- 56:10SPEAKER_02: Oh well.
- 56:11SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
- 56:12SPEAKER_01: I don't even think I've ever heard her rap.
- 56:14SPEAKER_01: Maybe I have.
- 56:15SPEAKER_01: I probably have.
- 56:16SPEAKER_02: I think she was on that um that Puff Daddy.
- 56:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, now that you say that.
- 56:20SPEAKER_01: Now that you say that.
- 56:21SPEAKER_01: Um the the every birthday.
- 56:23SPEAKER_01: Every birthday.
- 56:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 56:25SPEAKER_02: Uh I think she was on that.
- 56:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 56:28SPEAKER_02: But you know, as far as you know, do I have any little Kim?
- 56:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 56:33SPEAKER_01: No.
- 56:34SPEAKER_01: I don't either.
- 56:34SPEAKER_01: No.
- 56:35SPEAKER_01: I don't either.
- 56:35SPEAKER_02: But you know, she's in the book, so yes.
- 56:38SPEAKER_01: We'll go with it.
- 56:39SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's do the I I I I have an album.
- 56:43SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 56:44SPEAKER_01: So let the guessing begin.
- 56:46SPEAKER_02: I have an album.
- 56:48SPEAKER_02: I want the knife.
- 56:50SPEAKER_02: If you haven't seen that movie, yeah, go ahead.
- 56:52SPEAKER_01: Golden Child, Eddie Murphy.
- 56:53SPEAKER_02: Go watch Six Pack and Golden Child.
- 56:56SPEAKER_02: It's a B magical movie marathon.
- 57:01SPEAKER_01: I would tell you a joke about time travel, but you didn't like it.
- 57:07SPEAKER_02: So thank you.
- 57:12SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
- 57:13SPEAKER_02: Uh okay.
- 57:14SPEAKER_02: Have you said the magic word?
- 57:16SPEAKER_01: I have said the magic word.
- 57:17SPEAKER_01: Let the guessing begin.
- 57:18SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 57:18SPEAKER_02: Um, is it a band or a solo?
- 57:20SPEAKER_01: Band.
- 57:21SPEAKER_01: Band.
- 57:22SPEAKER_01: And we may have done this band.
- 57:23SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 57:24SPEAKER_02: Well, the book will tell us.
- 57:26SPEAKER_01: Um we may have done this album too, but I'm not sure.
- 57:30SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 57:31SPEAKER_02: Um rock band?
- 57:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 57:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah?
- 57:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 57:35SPEAKER_02: You don't sound confident.
- 57:37SPEAKER_02: They're a rock band.
- 57:38SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 57:38SPEAKER_02: You sure?
- 57:39SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 57:39SPEAKER_02: Positive?
- 57:39SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 57:40SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 57:42SPEAKER_02: Uh, height of popularity.
- 57:43SPEAKER_02: 90s.
- 57:44SPEAKER_02: 90s?
- 57:45SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 57:46SPEAKER_02: Um virtuosos in the band?
- 57:52SPEAKER_02: No.
- 57:52SPEAKER_02: No.
- 57:53SPEAKER_02: Uh any iconic songs?
- 57:56SPEAKER_01: Iconic?
- 57:57SPEAKER_02: Or you know, just like.
- 58:02SPEAKER_01: No.
- 58:04SPEAKER_01: Hit songs, really good songs.
- 58:06SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 58:06SPEAKER_01: Collective soul.
- 58:08SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 58:09SPEAKER_01: You're not far off.
- 58:13SPEAKER_02: Not far off.
- 58:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 58:15SPEAKER_02: Oh, is it um?
- 58:20SPEAKER_01: Collective Soul is a little harder than this band.
- 58:22SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 58:22SPEAKER_01: Harder edge.
- 58:23SPEAKER_02: Uh what is it?
- 58:25SPEAKER_02: You know, um.
- 58:27SPEAKER_02: Jesus and Car, I can't think of their name now.
- 58:31SPEAKER_01: It's probably not them.
- 58:32SPEAKER_02: Well, it might be them.
- 58:33SPEAKER_02: I just can't think of them.
- 58:35SPEAKER_02: Um how many people in the band?
- 58:39SPEAKER_01: One, two, three, four, five?
- 58:42SPEAKER_01: Five.
- 58:43SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 58:46SPEAKER_01: Sounds like mice, doesn't it?
- 58:49SPEAKER_02: A little bit.
- 58:51SPEAKER_01: Mike pipes, yeah.
- 58:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 58:52SPEAKER_02: A little bit.
- 58:55SPEAKER_02: Um was that big?
- 58:58SPEAKER_02: Alive?
- 58:59SPEAKER_02: Is that?
- 59:00SPEAKER_01: Live?
- 59:00SPEAKER_01: Live.
- 59:01SPEAKER_01: It is not live.
- 59:02SPEAKER_01: Good guess, though.
- 59:03SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 59:04SPEAKER_01: And live is actually a little harder edged than this band.
- 59:10SPEAKER_02: A little harder edged.
- 59:12SPEAKER_02: And not as hard as Collective Soul.
- 59:14SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
- 59:17SPEAKER_01: Jangly.
- 59:18SPEAKER_01: More of a jangly rock band.
- 59:20SPEAKER_01: Jangly?
- 59:21SPEAKER_01: I think so.
- 59:22SPEAKER_01: Is it Cinderella?
- 59:23SPEAKER_01: Cinderella's not Jangly.
- 59:25SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 59:25SPEAKER_02: That was just the first band that came to my head.
- 59:28SPEAKER_02: I don't know why I said jangly.
- 59:31SPEAKER_01: We did one of their songs as Common Crossing.
- 59:36SPEAKER_02: We did?
- 59:37SPEAKER_01: We did.
- 59:38SPEAKER_02: We don't do it anymore.
- 59:40SPEAKER_01: We could.
- 59:43SPEAKER_01: We we haven't done it in a while.
- 59:45SPEAKER_02: Is it Hootie?
- 59:46SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 59:47SPEAKER_01: You're not far off.
- 59:57SPEAKER_01: You're very, very close.
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_01: I think.
- 1:00:01SPEAKER_02: With Hootie?
- 1:00:02SPEAKER_01: With Hootie and with uh who else did you say?
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_01: Live and Collective Soul and let me tell you where they're from?
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_01: Arizona.
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_01: That doesn't help you.
- 1:00:15SPEAKER_01: Not really.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_01: Um you have several of their albums.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_01: Rush?
- 1:00:23SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_02: They're not from Arizona.
- 1:00:30SPEAKER_01: Including a couple of albums, I think, that had no hits on them.
- 1:00:34SPEAKER_01: Like their latest output.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_02: I have their albums?
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_01: I think so.
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_01: I know I have one album that there was no hit on it.
- 1:00:42SPEAKER_01: They just put it out.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_02: Is it Common Crossing?
- 1:00:48SPEAKER_01: No.
- 1:00:50SPEAKER_02: We have no hits.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_01: Good guess.
- 1:00:54SPEAKER_01: That'll be the name of our next album.
- 1:00:55SPEAKER_01: Common Crossing.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_01: No hits on this one.
- 1:01:01SPEAKER_02: People are like, I gotta hear this album.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_02: No hits?
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_02: No hits on this one.
- 1:01:06SPEAKER_02: An album full of crap songs?
- 1:01:08SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_01: Um I'll tell you this, and this might give it away.
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_01: Their guitar player killed himself.
- 1:01:17SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's uh uh uh the blind melon.
- 1:01:23SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 1:01:23SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 1:01:24SPEAKER_01: Oh, uh gin blossoms.
- 1:01:26SPEAKER_01: Gin Blossoms.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_01: Gin Blossoms.
- 1:01:28SPEAKER_01: It is the gin blossoms, and this is the album, which is their debut.
- 1:01:32SPEAKER_02: I don't think we talked.
- 1:01:33SPEAKER_02: We have talked about gin blossoms, I'm pretty sure, but I don't think we talked about that album specifically.
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_01: Because I know we talked about the song Cheatin'.
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_01: Did we?
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_01: Some somewhere.
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_01: I think we we brought it up one day.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_02: Um Yeah, and I can't remember why.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_02: There was actually uh I I wrote in here potential band name Simon Cowell and the Botox ladies.
- 1:01:59SPEAKER_02: I don't remember what that's from, but I love it.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_02: Uh gin blossoms, gin blossoms, gin blossoms.
- 1:02:11SPEAKER_01: So here's the one that we used to do.
- 1:02:14SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_01: I was like, it doesn't sound like it did before.
- 1:03:09SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, you're singing.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_02: I was singing, that's why it was awful.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_02: Um okay, this is weird, but I don't think we've done them before.
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_01: I know we've talked about them somewhere.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_02: We've talked about them, but they have never been a Wall of Tunes artist.
- 1:03:23SPEAKER_01: I love this band.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:03:25SPEAKER_01: I really do.
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_02: Um, so we did Counting Crows for Crying A Loud.
- 1:03:31SPEAKER_02: We've never done Gin Blossoms.
- 1:03:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that blows me away.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_02: That is crazy.
- 1:03:35SPEAKER_01: Hay Jealousy was the first single from their debut album, which was written by their guitar player Doug Hopkins.
- 1:03:40SPEAKER_01: Now, the story of this is they recorded their debut, right?
- 1:03:48SPEAKER_01: And Doug Hopkins committed suicide before it was released.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_01: Is that right?
- 1:03:53SPEAKER_02: It was there.
- 1:03:54SPEAKER_02: It was before or like shortly after.
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sorry.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_01: This is their second album.
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_01: This is their breakthrough album, but it's their second album.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_01: New Miserable Experience.
- 1:04:04SPEAKER_01: Uh while still working to complete it, founding member and lead guitarist songwriter Hopkins drank heavily and grew increasingly depressed, with the other members hesitant to fire Hopkins, AM forcefully removed him from the band and withheld$15,000 owed to him until he s agreed to sign over half of his publishing royalties and relinquish his mechanical royalties.
- 1:04:23SPEAKER_01: Hopkins reluctantly agreed to these demands because of his dire financial situation.
- 1:04:28SPEAKER_01: Scott Johnson was chosen by the band in December 1992 as Hopkins stand-in on tour and became a permanent member in 1994.
- 1:04:37SPEAKER_01: Now this album was their breakthrough.
- 1:04:38SPEAKER_01: Like I said, Hey Jealousy went to number 25 on the Hot 100, number four on the mainstream rock tracks, and later went gold, fueling the success of this album.
- 1:04:49SPEAKER_01: Estrange from the Band, Hopkins committed suicide in December of 1993 after a reported five previous attempts, um, uh including one for which he was hospitalized two weeks prior to his death.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_01: So the following year, another song by most of the songs that you that were like hits on this album were written by Doug Hopkins.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_01: Which is just, it's crazy to me.
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_01: Like this one.
- 1:05:17SPEAKER_02: Well, because the next album was called Yeah.
- 1:05:20SPEAKER_02: Congratulations, I'm sorry.
- 1:05:22SPEAKER_01: Because that's what they yeah, because people would say, Congratulations on your success.
- 1:05:26SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry about Doug.
- 1:05:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:05:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:05:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:05:28SPEAKER_01: Hopkins.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_01: So this was also written by Doug Hopkins.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_01: And this was a minor hit for them too.
- 1:05:37SPEAKER_01: It's a great song.
- 1:05:38SPEAKER_01: It is a great song.
- 1:05:54SPEAKER_01: This is an example of what a record company.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_01: Owns you because your band member is drinking heavily and becoming depressed.
- 1:06:09SPEAKER_01: And you love him.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_01: Because he's your band member.
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_01: You don't want to fire him.
- 1:06:14SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:06:15SPEAKER_01: So the record company says, listen, you're a business.
- 1:06:20SPEAKER_01: We own you.
- 1:06:22SPEAKER_01: You know, or or you sign to our record label.
- 1:06:25SPEAKER_01: So we'll do it.
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_01: He's fired.
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_01: We'll get somebody else in there.
- 1:06:31SPEAKER_01: That's just crazy.
- 1:06:33SPEAKER_02: That's the way it was.
- 1:06:35SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 1:06:35SPEAKER_02: I mean, you that would never fly today.
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_01: I bet you I bet you it would.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know, because record companies don't really own you anymore.
- 1:06:44SPEAKER_01: Well, that's true.
- 1:06:45SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 1:06:45SPEAKER_02: Because there's so many other options out there now.
- 1:06:47SPEAKER_01: That's true.
- 1:06:48SPEAKER_01: This is another great one.
- 1:06:50SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I love this one.
- 1:06:57SPEAKER_01: Such a great album, and it's a great sound.
- 1:06:59SPEAKER_01: There wasn't a band that sounded like these guys, really.
- 1:07:02SPEAKER_01: No, no.
- 1:07:03SPEAKER_01: I would say Toad the Wet's Brocket came close to I won't.
- 1:07:15SPEAKER_06: It's hard to know.
- 1:07:27SPEAKER_06: Stop that goes wrong.
- 1:07:32SPEAKER_06: I don't know what we have to have a ghost time.
- 1:07:49SPEAKER_01: Such a great song.
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_02: It was a guy.
- 1:07:51SPEAKER_01: This is also not a movie.
- 1:07:53SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sure it was.
- 1:07:54SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're thinking of another one.
- 1:07:56SPEAKER_01: Uh hold on, let's listen to the this is Allison Road.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_06: I've lost my mind.
- 1:08:14SPEAKER_06: All of the pressure that left behind on Allison Road.
- 1:08:28SPEAKER_06: Fires in the heavens.
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm not gonna go.
- 1:08:32SPEAKER_01: I feel the need to um talk about the gin blossoms as a band because I don't think they get a lot of credit.
- 1:08:40SPEAKER_01: Nah, they're kind of lost in the shuffle of uh they really are, and they had such a great this is I think this is the song you're thinking of.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_01: This is from the uh, was it Empire Records?
- 1:08:49SPEAKER_02: Empire Records.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, until I hear it from you.
- 1:08:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's great song.
- 1:08:54SPEAKER_01: It is a great song.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_01: This is pop magic, it really is.
- 1:09:10SPEAKER_01: They definitely had a sound.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_02: I think it has a lot to do with the singer.
- 1:09:15SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 1:09:15SPEAKER_02: The voice is distinctly.
- 1:09:16SPEAKER_01: But did you see that hear the guitar?
- 1:09:18SPEAKER_01: When I say jangly, yeah, it's very Tompetty.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_01: It's very like um arpeggiated.
- 1:09:24SPEAKER_01: There's not a lot of power chords.
- 1:09:25SPEAKER_04: Right, you know, it's until I hear it from Yeah, this is just pop masterpiece.
- 1:09:35SPEAKER_02: There was a one there's a song on what's that album?
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_02: Is it something about chocolate cake?
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_01: Oh, I have that one.
- 1:09:43SPEAKER_02: But there's a song on there that's amazing.
- 1:09:46SPEAKER_02: Miss uh Miss Disarray.
- 1:09:48SPEAKER_02: Miss Disarray.
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_02: Yes! I absolutely love this song.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_01: But see, the thing is, this didn't produce any hits.
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_01: This didn't go anywhere, they just released it because they that's what they do.
- 1:10:00SPEAKER_01: They release music.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_01: And it's such a shame because this is a great album.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_05: I love this song.
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_05: It's so much.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_05: And all I wanna know is baby where you go, where you spend, when you come up.
- 1:10:43SPEAKER_01: This is a this is this is a feudal uh process, Doug, because whenever I listen to Gin Blossoms or even Hootie, I think Common Crossing's got another album.
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_01: We could do another album.
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_01: Well yeah.
- 1:11:01SPEAKER_01: You know, and we do, yeah.
- 1:11:02SPEAKER_01: But it's just it's so depressing because we don't have time or resources to do it.
- 1:11:09SPEAKER_02: Of course, half our band doesn't even live in, you know.
- 1:11:12SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 1:11:13SPEAKER_01: So um, so let's go to the third album, which was the follow-up.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, this one.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_01: This is from Congratulations, I'm sorry.
- 1:11:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:11:23SPEAKER_01: Um it's called Follow You Down.
- 1:11:27SPEAKER_01: And that's I think this is about Doug Hopkins.
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_02: It might be, yeah.
- 1:11:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm gonna look that up.
- 1:11:43SPEAKER_06: Did you see this guy?
- 1:11:49SPEAKER_06: Maybe when it's time it's lovely.
- 1:11:52SPEAKER_01: Maybe not.
- 1:11:56SPEAKER_06: I can't really help it if my tongue's all tied at night.
- 1:12:02SPEAKER_06: Jumping off a bridge is just the furthest that I've ever been.
- 1:12:08SPEAKER_06: Anyway you go.
- 1:12:10SPEAKER_01: I'll find you to see when I think of Comic Crossing, this is the type of music I think that we were shooting for.
- 1:12:18SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean catchy.
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_02: I mean, we'd never specifically said they were an influence, but they were definitely an influence on our on our sound.
- 1:12:26SPEAKER_01: That's another great one.
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_01: As long as it matters.
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_06: How can I find a son?
- 1:13:03SPEAKER_01: You're right, he does have a great voice.
- 1:13:05SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:13:07SPEAKER_01: It's distinctive, it is.
- 1:13:14SPEAKER_01: Robin Wilson is the lead singer's date.
- 1:13:28SPEAKER_01: Just gonna get to the chorus, Neville.
- 1:13:46SPEAKER_01: See, that gives me goosebumps.
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_01: That's it, because we used to we were listening to this back in the 90s.
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_01: And this is, I mean, now I want to get the band back together.
- 1:13:54SPEAKER_01: Get the band back together.
- 1:13:56SPEAKER_01: Alright, so there you go.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_01: The that's not from the the uh the uh album that I chose.
- 1:14:01SPEAKER_01: The album that I chose was technically their second album, but their breakthrough album, New Miserable Experience, um, which has a great track listing.
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_01: Um the song on there.
- 1:14:12SPEAKER_01: Cheating.
- 1:14:13SPEAKER_01: You can't call it cheating if she reminds me of you.
- 1:14:15SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 1:14:16SPEAKER_02: I absolutely love that song.
- 1:14:18SPEAKER_01: Uh good stuff.
- 1:14:20SPEAKER_01: Get out and get you some uh some gym blossoms.
- 1:14:22SPEAKER_01: I don't think I don't know how active they are now.
- 1:14:24SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna say, I don't I don't know what they've been up to.
- 1:14:27SPEAKER_01: Um I think they're I think they're still together.
- 1:14:30SPEAKER_01: I think let's see, in January 2022, last January, the band announced a tour to celebrate the 30th anniversary of that very album, New Miserable Experience.
- 1:14:38SPEAKER_01: The tour was cut short in March due to an accident in which basic Bill Lean broke his arm.
- 1:14:43SPEAKER_01: That's the last entry in Wikipedia.
- 1:14:45SPEAKER_02: So 2022?
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:14:47SPEAKER_01: So I think uh they toured in uh 2019 with Collective Soul.
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_01: Um I think they're still together.
- 1:14:56SPEAKER_01: Uh let's see.
- 1:14:57SPEAKER_01: In 2016, uh Scott Johnson announced in an interview that the band was expected to begin recording a six studio album.
- 1:15:03SPEAKER_01: Uh in the fall, two years later, Mixed Reality was released in Clean Patch Records.
- 1:15:08SPEAKER_01: Uh the album was produced by Don Dixon.
- 1:15:10SPEAKER_01: So they they released an album a few years ago.
- 1:15:13SPEAKER_01: Um Mixed Reality, which I don't have.
- 1:15:16SPEAKER_02: I don't know how that is.
- 1:15:17SPEAKER_01: I might have to look it up one up.
- 1:15:19SPEAKER_01: Um I guess we're gonna spend some money.
- 1:15:28SPEAKER_01: You gotta do what you gotta do.
- 1:15:29SPEAKER_01: We don't need a new van, dear.
- 1:15:30SPEAKER_01: I need a new gym lock some album.
- 1:15:33SPEAKER_02: Food for the kids?
- 1:15:35SPEAKER_02: Nah.
- 1:15:36SPEAKER_02: Fine.
- 1:15:37SPEAKER_02: That's what school lunch is for.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_02: Just take some rolls and put them in your pockets, kids.
- 1:15:44SPEAKER_02: Come on out.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_01: Alright, so there you go.
- 1:15:47SPEAKER_01: New miserable experience.
- 1:15:48SPEAKER_01: That is the Wall of Tunes album of the.
- 1:15:52SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it is about that square pizza, but it was always really good.
- 1:15:56SPEAKER_01: Square pizza?
- 1:15:57SPEAKER_01: Like in it.
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_01: Like in school?
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:59SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that square pizza is.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it was.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_01: I had it almost every day.
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_02: I it was crazy.
- 1:16:04SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, we didn't, you know, we I didn't go to a big school like you did.
- 1:16:08SPEAKER_02: And uh I went to your school.
- 1:16:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you you you you you you left us.
- 1:16:13SPEAKER_02: And you went to a big school.
- 1:16:15SPEAKER_02: I didn't want to.
- 1:16:16SPEAKER_02: I know, it wasn't your it wasn't your doing.
- 1:16:18SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm getting out of here with I think it was like once a week we get square pizza.
- 1:16:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:16:27SPEAKER_02: And it was like a big thing.
- 1:16:30SPEAKER_01: You know?
- 1:16:30SPEAKER_01: So in high school where I went.
- 1:16:34SPEAKER_01: In high school where I went, if I'm not mistaken, you had a choice of square pizza every day.
- 1:16:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we we didn't have any choice because we did have a card.
- 1:16:43SPEAKER_01: So we had we have the meal, or you could have pizza pizza.
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_01: Or you can have, you know, whatever.
- 1:16:48SPEAKER_01: So oftentimes I'd be like, oh, I don't really like that.
- 1:16:51SPEAKER_01: Give me a pizza pizza.
- 1:16:54SPEAKER_02: But I don't know what it is about that square pizza, but it was awesome.
- 1:16:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was.
- 1:16:58SPEAKER_02: I don't know why.
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_01: I don't either.
- 1:17:00SPEAKER_02: It probably, you know, probably if I had a pizza now, I would probably have diarrhea for six months.
- 1:17:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:17:05SPEAKER_01: But uh it was so good.
- 1:17:12SPEAKER_01: I'm glad we I'm glad we talked about that.
- 1:17:16SPEAKER_02: What did we get from gym blossoms to square pizza?
- 1:17:20SPEAKER_02: Oh, we were talking about getting the new album, and I think kids don't need food and square pizza.
- 1:17:28SPEAKER_01: There we go.
- 1:17:28SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_02: I found my way out of the rabbit hole.
- 1:17:33SPEAKER_01: Alright, that's episode 132.
- 1:17:35SPEAKER_01: Happy new year, everybody! Happy new year the first one of 2023.
- 1:17:40SPEAKER_01: So uh I guess until next week.
- 1:17:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we will we will do the next one next week.
- 1:17:44SPEAKER_01: Another one next week.
- 1:17:53SPEAKER_02: Oh daddy boy the pops or pipe and changing the thing.
- 1:18:08SPEAKER_02: He's dug.
- 1:18:09SPEAKER_02: I'm the Doug.
- 1:18:11SPEAKER_02: Bye everybody.
- 1:18:12SPEAKER_01: Pop the pipe and always the snort that gets me.
- 1:18:23SPEAKER_07: I'm so stupid.
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- 1:18:50SPEAKER_02: It's a horsey.
- 1:18:58SPEAKER_06: Wait, wait, wait, come back.
- 1:19:00SPEAKER_06: Oh no.