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NFL Week 14 DFS Takedown Breakdown | December 9, 2024 | DraftKings DFS Lineup Review and Analysis · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: All system's going clear the lift up? What's up? Ember one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler chamberline here aka Totag and Tambo Back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Takedown Breakdown here on the Ship and
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  Speaker 1: Nation YouTube station. Got my guy Naid's here with me
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  Speaker 1: as always, going to break down all things mainslate week fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the perfect lineup, a bowling perfect by the way,
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  Speaker 1: three hundred point exact little bit of change their lineup.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the breakdown of the Milliemaker winners. We've got
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  Speaker 1: some reviews to look at, and then just some of
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  Speaker 1: the tools and data and stuff. We've got Overtchip and
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  Speaker 1: Nation just reverse engineering it to show you how we
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  Speaker 1: could have landed there. But needs you had a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a run in with the Millimaker yesterday. I seen
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  Speaker 1: the lineup you sent over, and you play limited lineup,
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  Speaker 1: so got to feel good when you got at least
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  Speaker 1: a you know, a real sweat like that for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was Uh, it was fun. So I
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  Speaker 2: usually played five teams, right, I attacked that thirty three
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  Speaker 2: five max and then all the single entries that go
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  Speaker 2: along with it and satellites and stuff like that. But
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  Speaker 2: I took a look at the slate yesterday, I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: all my five lineups, everybody's lineups are looking this way,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna throw two lineups in the MILLI that
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  Speaker 2: are built completely different. One of them was a Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen double stack that we're gonna see a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen double not double stacks, but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen right when we reviewed these teams with the
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  Speaker 2: Chalk running back. So yeah, it was I didn't even
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  Speaker 2: know I had a sweat. I thought I was dead
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  Speaker 2: after I saw that game going crazy. You forgot about
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  Speaker 2: that one kind of hedge flip on the State eight.
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  Speaker 2: So you talk about building sets all the time, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's huge, right. I mean majority of my portfolio and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people's portfolios yesterday were built to spend
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  Speaker 2: up running backs and one or two of those value
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  Speaker 2: guys and then kind of the Donald stuff and things
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  Speaker 2: like that. So just building its sets, giving yourself outs
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  Speaker 2: because like like you talk about, right, nine percent of
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  Speaker 2: your lineups going in are going to be dead, right,
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  Speaker 2: you just need the one to come through. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no fun slate overall Yesterday, really good Sunday in general,
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  Speaker 2: really good Sunday for the community for the most part.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, looking forward to breaking it down here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to find this one yesterday. You
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  Speaker 1: know someone, yeah, someone had asked me, said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to this show today to take down breakdown
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  Speaker 1: you know some really high scoring lineups. A couple of
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  Speaker 1: people hit me up about it and said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: very interested in breaking it down, and so are we.
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  Speaker 1: It's what we love to do. This is the sort
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  Speaker 1: of the go behind the scenes stuff, look at the process,
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  Speaker 1: get better this way. But I said, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of people have said that it won't really be
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  Speaker 1: that special, and the only reason I say that is
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty much simple. It's a high scoring slate,
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  Speaker 1: tons of two two hundred and twenty five point lineups.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was almost easy to get to the two
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  Speaker 1: hundred point lineups. Not saying if you have a portfolio,
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  Speaker 1: if you had a single entry, don't take that the
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  Speaker 1: wrong way I'm saying, but if you had a portfolio
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  Speaker 1: of lineups yesterday, you were probably somewhere in that range.
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  Speaker 1: If you had any Sam Darnold or any Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of it just came down to Addison
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  Speaker 1: and Nikoua and getting them both together. That's what obviously
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  Speaker 1: was the liftoff point if you will, if you got
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  Speaker 1: those two, because it was probably Allen with Nkua and
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  Speaker 1: an Addison one off, or it was the Donald stuff
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  Speaker 1: with a secondary with Nicoua. Because the two chalk running backs,
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  Speaker 1: the best of the two chalk running backs, Charbonnet and
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  Speaker 1: Grindo both got there again. So surprise, surprise, that's how
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  Speaker 1: it goes. But we'll look at all that and more
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  Speaker 1: and break it all down. Let's let's pop it up
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  Speaker 1: here in NAI's let's do this. Let's go to the
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  Speaker 1: perfect lineup. I talked the bowling. Shut up to our
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  Speaker 1: guy ge Risen, the bowler of the crew. He's he's
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  Speaker 1: got some three hundreds. By the way, he's actually a shark.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the crazy thing about it, Na, It's
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  Speaker 1: not only was it a three hundred point perfect lineup,
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  Speaker 1: it used all the salary to do it. And just
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  Speaker 1: look at the build man like Alan with Nikua shout
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  Speaker 1: up to our guy degenerate seventy five. I got that
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  Speaker 1: circled in my notes. I didn't run it either. I
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  Speaker 1: know he said he's a donkey and didn't either. Himself.
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  Speaker 1: But that lineup ended up being pretty pretty solid if
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  Speaker 1: you just had those two and not try and figure
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  Speaker 1: out the other spots. And I kept talking about it yesterday, Nads,
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  Speaker 1: and this is the perfect lineup, so I know it
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  Speaker 1: won't always be there. But Garrindo, Jennings, Addison, Jefferson, No Donald,
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  Speaker 1: I said, these combo packs, man, they're gonna come through.
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  Speaker 1: I would not expect it to be that one. In
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  Speaker 1: the perfect lineup, you think Donald would be here. There's
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  Speaker 1: obviously a ton of conversions of this lineup you could
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  Speaker 1: do where you get to Donald and move something around
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  Speaker 1: and still have a Millie Maker winning score. This is
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  Speaker 1: just the perfect lineup. But kick it over to you, Naids.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Meyer in there for Brock Bowers Chalk. But what
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  Speaker 1: do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, overall, it's not the craziest lineup. And anytime, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, you kind of look at what won the
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  Speaker 2: twenty dollars Millie right, the Delato and he was what
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  Speaker 2: twenty points off from the perfect lineup, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not anytime you see something like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: usually we're seeing forty fifty sixty points off a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times, right, And you're just really never get into
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  Speaker 2: something like that. Whereas this it makes sense, right you
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  Speaker 2: talk about the combo pack. Everybody was attacking that Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: game in the dome there, and you can easily play
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  Speaker 2: Addison and Jefferson together the volume they get. But not
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  Speaker 2: only that, look at the price points. Jefferson is not
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  Speaker 2: nine K. He's seventy eight hundred Addison wide receiver two
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  Speaker 2: to one B if you will, right, one A, one B,
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  Speaker 2: him and him and Jefferson in the office fifty three hundred, right,
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  Speaker 2: So it's not like these guys are seven K and
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  Speaker 2: nine K, right. And then you look on the other side,
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  Speaker 2: Girndo and Jowan Jennings. Juwan Jennings was projected to be
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  Speaker 2: one of the best values on the slate. Now his
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  Speaker 2: ownership came down from what it was projected at because
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  Speaker 2: Kelvin Austin and other guys like that opened up, right,
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  Speaker 2: So people moved off that. When they were already playing Garendo,
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  Speaker 2: They're like, Okay, I'm just gonna play Grinda eat the
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  Speaker 2: chalk there. I know he's gonna be mega popular, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut it off. You could easily add in
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  Speaker 2: a guy like Juwan Jennings because that, yeah, both of
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  Speaker 2: them are chalking on their individual aspects, but when you
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  Speaker 2: play them together, a lot of people, especially handbuild there,
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  Speaker 2: especially casual, especially stuff that you're a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: field that you're going against, is uncomfortable playing two guys
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  Speaker 2: like that on the same team because they think, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I just say, it just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 2: But you look at their price points. Fifty two hundred
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  Speaker 2: for wide receiver one since I you expend off that offense,
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  Speaker 2: and fifty four hundred in a Shanahan offense when it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter who the running back is, right, it's a
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  Speaker 2: schemed running back offense there, and it's still killed Williams
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  Speaker 2: on the road in San Francisco against an overall good
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  Speaker 2: team despite what everyone's kind of saying and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: So overall love to build a ton. Probably weren't getting
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  Speaker 2: the air, but that's just a nature of the other
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  Speaker 2: guys kind of nuking and you're just landing on twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars tight end that's definitely involved in the offense.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he plays fifty plus percent of the snaps
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  Speaker 2: in there. And it's also kind of a pivot off
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  Speaker 2: of Boers, who was what thirty some percent owned as
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  Speaker 2: the most expensive tight end and Jacobe Myers on the
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  Speaker 2: same team.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, nothing else is really too crazy about it though.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of the funny part. So I will note
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  Speaker 1: that again, this is the perfect lineup. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: we're aiming to get you know, we're aiming to get
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn'tad that, not like we're expecting to get here,
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  Speaker 1: but we're always trying to get optimal. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is not what you need to win the milli Maker.
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  Speaker 1: Like the million Maker winner was two hundred and seventy four,
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  Speaker 1: so it's quite a gap between that, and you could
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  Speaker 1: move it around a bunch of different pieces simply, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, going down to Donald and then pop a
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  Speaker 1: Meyer up to somebody who failed. It wouldn't fail enough
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  Speaker 1: that it mattered and you still would have got good
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  Speaker 1: points there. So I will just say, like just looking
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  Speaker 1: at it. That is kind of the point though, is
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  Speaker 1: when you're looking at your lineups. So if there's only
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  Speaker 1: this one point of contention, I'll give an example from yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: A real example is I talked about it on the show,
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  Speaker 1: and I definitely had lineups that had Donald Jefferson and
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  Speaker 1: Josh Oliver. Right, there was coach speak on Josh Oliver.
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  Speaker 1: He only ended up getting like a twenty nine yard
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  Speaker 1: catch late in the game, but still for twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: hundred bucks. That's kind of the point. There's almost four
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  Speaker 1: points on one play versus if he had got one
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  Speaker 1: or two of those and a touchdown. He becomes the
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  Speaker 1: version that fills in and allowed me just to get
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different with some of the chalk and
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  Speaker 1: with a common build. So if you are a landing
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  Speaker 1: in your lineups, and we do this in the lineup
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  Speaker 1: review portion later, and you you know we said this
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  Speaker 1: like last weeknd's there was lineups. We looked there like
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  Speaker 1: all right, well not only did you have to punt
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  Speaker 1: to this guy, but you punted this guy and this guy,
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  Speaker 1: and yes you got these two ceilings. Remember it was
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  Speaker 1: like the the Jalen Hurts What was it like the
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  Speaker 1: week with Jalen Hurts, Dereck Henry and AJ Brown. It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you got a nice little trio pack from that game,
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  Speaker 1: but you jammed like four punts to make it work.
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  Speaker 1: Unlike this where in my example, I just gave all
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  Speaker 1: the other plays filled out nicely. We had running back
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  Speaker 1: value to make it work. That was clear good value.
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  Speaker 1: Will show that more in a second. But then you
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  Speaker 1: also had you're just filling out your tight end spot
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  Speaker 1: with a tight end that fits the quarterback. You did
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  Speaker 1: this yesterday, and a lot of people did with knocks right.
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  Speaker 1: I had somebody hop over and say, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: only mistake I made was Dawson Knox, and I look
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  Speaker 1: at their build and it'd say, he Josh Allen, Khalil
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  Speaker 1: Shakir with Nikua lineup with Knox. That's not a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: That's a bad result. It just didn't work out. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you have more to add on that,
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  Speaker 1: but just kind of the oncept of being able to
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  Speaker 1: go onto one spot, if it makes sense, I'm fine with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that, especially looking at the slate yesterday, right,
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  Speaker 2: you knew who was coming in talk obviously TJ. Hockinson,
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  Speaker 2: who was kind of in that mid tier, upper mid tier, right,
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  Speaker 2: Kate Atton, upper mid tier, brock Powers all the way
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  Speaker 2: up to the top, Trade McBride all the way up
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  Speaker 2: to the top. So you're either in kind of that
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  Speaker 2: upper mid tier echelon or all the way up at
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  Speaker 2: the top, right, So anybody else when it's like that
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  Speaker 2: and I'm already attacking a stack like a Josh Allen
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  Speaker 2: stack or something like that, I have no problem just
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  Speaker 2: adding in the tight end, right. I mean, you're when
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  Speaker 2: you're going in on offense, you're expecting them to score points.
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  Speaker 2: There's an injury there, right, So it's nothing you did wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the team put up in forty plus points, right,
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  Speaker 2: and Dawson Knox ended up with two or whatever he
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  Speaker 2: ended up with. That's not you didn't do anything wrong, right,
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  Speaker 2: So just don't be afraid to add in a tight
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  Speaker 2: end like that, even if nobody's really talking about them
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that, as long as it makes sense
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  Speaker 2: and it's attest your quarterback. These guys are on the
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  Speaker 2: field a ton of snaps, right, and they running routes
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  Speaker 2: and they can easily catch a thirty yard touchdown, right, So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which cannot can be enough if you need to
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  Speaker 1: fit in some of these other big dogs that we saw,
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  Speaker 1: and when we have value like that, it's not like
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  Speaker 1: those running backs were, you know, like just taking a shot.
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  Speaker 1: These were literally some of the better plays on the slate,
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  Speaker 1: and some of the best plays really when we look
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: at the stone in a second. First off, I want
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: to say, what's up to Sean Furst in always here
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  Speaker 1: grinding hot? You know hot right now? Fifty k score
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago, and he's always in
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  Speaker 1: putting the work in. So love to see that and
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  Speaker 1: love to see this. Shout out to Jared says hit
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  Speaker 1: my first GPP yesterday, twenty five hundred bucks off of
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  Speaker 1: twelve talk about ROI congrats Jared, and says just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to say thanks for teaching me how to play DFS.
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  Speaker 1: I'm low volume, but thought less about plays and more
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  Speaker 1: about how the puzzle fits together. We know that's what
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  Speaker 1: it's all about. Go collect coach sav all the people
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  Speaker 1: in there congratulating and love to see that. Shout out
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  Speaker 1: to Nick Andrew's in here, big ed and just a
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: bunch of good people, always coming in trying to grind
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  Speaker 1: get better at their game, so we appreciate that. Let's
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  Speaker 1: look at the twenty dollars million maker here, and it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I went to third place first here just to look
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: at this NADS because I feel like, man, how did
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  Speaker 1: I not just land on this exact lineup? I know
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  Speaker 1: it's third it's fifty k, it's not a million. But this,
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  Speaker 1: why did I just land on this? Everywhere is like
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  Speaker 1: a single entry. Darnald, Jefferson Addison were my top three
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  Speaker 1: listed on the slate plan, and I know I had
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: them in places like this, but you know I love
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  Speaker 1: filling out the last wide receiver slot with it. Why
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  Speaker 1: not Darnell Mooney? I probably had more London there, I
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  Speaker 1: would guess, and a pay up tight end. But the
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  Speaker 1: two chalk running backs that we'll get to that and say,
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  Speaker 1: actually no, I'll go there in a second. Friar Mouth,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, when the Pickens news came out, if
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  Speaker 1: you weren't playing and running to Calvin Austin, why not
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: go to Friar Mooth, like you say, He's right in
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  Speaker 1: that little bit below where everybody was at and above
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  Speaker 1: and gets you a different build and lets you fit
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  Speaker 1: in to Kua, which flips the build a little bit
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  Speaker 1: because most people were on two running back or too
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  Speaker 1: tight end. Why not try a fourth wide receiver. And
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: then the Pittsburgh defense, which was obviously in a good
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  Speaker 1: spot going against jamis so really love this lineup even
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  Speaker 1: though it's in third, So shut out the styles. G
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  Speaker 1: L Dunn Junior ship a nation member for biggest GPP
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  Speaker 1: score ever set in our discord. Shout out to GL
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  Speaker 1: dun Junior fifteen k in the millimaker, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen Amuri Cooper Nikua lineup that Addison one off.
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  Speaker 1: He had Kien Williams in there too. He did the
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  Speaker 1: fire with move. He didn't have Girendo. He played Rashad
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  Speaker 1: White for same money. Actually, he had the hundred bucks
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  Speaker 1: to play Girndo and didn't do it. So that's not
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  Speaker 1: that I don't think it mattered too much. Three more
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  Speaker 1: points so I would have got him like an extra
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  Speaker 1: five k. But I think it's fine the way he
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  Speaker 1: did it because he was already playing some other chalk
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  Speaker 1: But any quick dots on these ones Nade styles with
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  Speaker 1: the Donald one or Dunn Junior g L Dun Junior
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  Speaker 1: with the the Josh Allen one before we go to
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  Speaker 1: the winner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that Donald team literally makes so
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: much sense. I mean you look at it now and
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: it's not even results oriented. I mean it literally just
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  Speaker 2: makes so much sense to build. I mean I found
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  Speaker 2: myself I played two of my five main team were
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Donald stacks. With Jefferson, and then I had both of
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  Speaker 2: them with or one was Hockinson, or both were Hocken
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  Speaker 2: and one was Addison and Jefferson, And looking back, not
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  Speaker 2: results oriented, it was just I used Hockinson on both
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  Speaker 2: of them, going back to kind of that tight end
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  Speaker 2: thing because I just wanted to burn up the tight
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  Speaker 2: end there. But I love this build a ton. Mooney
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  Speaker 2: speeds up the game on the other end, right, you
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  Speaker 2: know he's the home run play, so how does it
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  Speaker 2: speed up the Donald, the Jefferson, the Addison play. Darnell Mooney,
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  Speaker 2: He's also a pivot off the chalk Drake London, who's underpriced.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Everybody says, right, Drake Lunnon went from catching touchdowns every
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: week to now it's Mooney and Rayver McLeod right is
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  Speaker 2: kind of the possession guys, which is kind of crazy
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  Speaker 2: in that offense there, and those guys are super underpriced.
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  Speaker 2: So overall, love to build a ton. The Friar move
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  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars more than Kelvin Austin, who everybody was
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  Speaker 2: running in the window to play at the onesie position. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Also a pivot off of those chalk tight ends in
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  Speaker 2: the four k range Hockinson forty three and forty four
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  Speaker 2: hundred a little bit cheaper than those guys, and then
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  Speaker 2: obviously nice leverage there, and the just throwing in the
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  Speaker 2: Steelers defense against Jamis who makes a ton of mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: and actually their defense was projected to be the talk
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  Speaker 2: of the slate came in at like ten percent on
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  Speaker 2: so that was kind of interesting. Now, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you have any takes on that, but I think
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  Speaker 2: it was because the value opened up that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think if people were just more spending down at
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: defense and kind of punting it off that they came down.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know if you had any takes on that,
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  Speaker 2: but I think.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: It was just because the other like the twenty once
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: you could get to like Barkley as the difference, which
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: was obviously a common theme, right people got with Calvin Austin.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: It was easy to get up to Berkley. Now, I
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: know he's not showing up in any winners. He had,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: you know, a decent day on the ground, but of
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: course the one shot he had was a one yard liner,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: and just I guess that's like the worst thing about
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: the Barkley. I know, there's like the three touchdown games
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: in there, and I still loved him yesterday. It is
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: what it is. But I will just say, like the
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: thought process after obviously hindsight's always twenty twenty, but you
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: go back and think, like, remember we were talking on
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: the show yesterday about Barkley and the game where he
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: could have set the record, and he's like, na, nah,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: he like and we talked about he understands the mission.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Somebody posted in the YouTube chat. He doesn't really care
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: that much. It is the same, right, Why would they
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: ever not run the tush push? It works every time
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: almost or if they try it two or three times,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: it's definitely gonna work. And on top of it, he
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't even care, like he's not gonna you know, he's fine.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: He just wants to win the championship and get the
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: job done that way, that's what he's focused on. So
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: again that's results oriented. But just to say it, I
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: just think about that stuff after shout out to our
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: guy bj Man, just an absolute grinder crusher over at
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Ship and Nation doing the work for the people. Goes
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: out and gets the job done. Yesterday for himself, I
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: think it was to the tune of thirty five thousand plus,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: you know, pretty pretty solid day on a you know,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: single entry that he had in there and popped it everywhere.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: It was in our Nation celebration. If you go to
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: x at ship at Nation, you guys can check that
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: out there for sure and see if a shadow Bjay
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: West Coast up early today to rock with us here.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Renegade said, learned a lot listening how to deal with
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: late breaking news. Yeah, the mooth news versus Austin certainly
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: another way to do it, and it's oftentimes one to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: consider if you're seeing a very popular wide receiver. Now again,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I always use the puzzle as the analogy,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: like we don't have the box, we don't get to
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: flip it over. When you get the late news, you
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: have even less time to deal with these thought processes.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: So just sort of having that in your repertoire and
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: in your mind, that's definitely a good call. Nasee Harris
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: was okay, Like, you know, if you want to go
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: to something different there than just doing what most did
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and go to Austin and Barkley, then I understand that
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: as well. So mooth was the way to do it,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: be able to fit more of those guys in and
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: find your way around. It's not like he had a
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: killer day thirteen points. It's just more of what it
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: got you. And that's why we said with that lineup,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: we're not even on the winner yet. It was just
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: one to see and I thought that was interesting going
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: over to ship It Nation. Just for two seconds. I
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: want to show you guys this because this stood out again.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Needs how many times we're going to do this one? Right,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: but it's every week and you know, some ignore it,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: some don't. But just to go back here, let's have
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: a look, was like twenty two percent to be optimal.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Here we had that. I mean again, no one, no
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: one thinks these are sneaky, but I'm just saying when
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: they're trying to fade them for no reason, like you
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: could just plug these guys in forty one point three.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. He's forty eight
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: eight hundred. If you're not doing it something this strong,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you should be doing something different, like land on a
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: GINO or land on a JSN one off. Like people
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: put in Nakua in the flex you could and nothing
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: about who got there or why. I'm saying, but if
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you're disagreeing with this, then how else is it happening?
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: They still have a top stack ranking, they have a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: decent team total, they're on the road in a dome.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: All this you can play Arizona d is the way
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you could get different from it. You could play the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: gino stacks. You could land where most have charbonnet or grindo.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: In the flex. You could land on someone like JSN
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: or Metcalf and leverage it that way. Like there's tons
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: of different ways you could go. You could run Kyler,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Harrison McBride or Wilson. Shout up to our guy title
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: he was on the Wilson call yesterday. That happened early,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: didn't you know? Fully matter on the slave, but a
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: great call and just the way to get different and
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: be comfortable with it so you can do things differently.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: But we're not ignoring these, you know, in the sense
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: of it doesn't mean you lock it either. I'm not
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: explaining it that way. I'm saying, don't ignore it. There's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: a difference aids and I don't know if you got
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that, but just you know, I'm I'm if
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not playing it, I'm considering what that means in
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: my next step. I'm not just ignoring it and hoping,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing falls apart. Obviously, there's a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: chance he's gonna get there, and if not, what does
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that look like? What's your thoughts on that?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, first of all, those OUTTOUM numbers are off
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the charts, and it's not like we went in and
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: changed just about because of the results. But the simple
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: easy way to cut into it is pair of the
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: defense with them. I mean, the forty nine Ers defense
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: came in or the Seahawks came in at three percent,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers defense came in at five percent.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: So that's an easy way right there to get different.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: You're off of all those other chalk defenses, taking it
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: a step further, right, Both of these two guys were
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: proven before. We've seen this situation before, not with Grenda,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: but we've seen it with Jordan Mason. Guess who stepped in.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Jordan Mason stepped in, took off the line, share of
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: the back still succeeded, just like CMC. It's the offensive
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: scheme there in San Francisco, Right, So, Grinda, you knew
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: he's gonna step in. I mean, a guy by the
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: name of Patrick Taylor, who couldn't make it. I mean,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: he's he's bounced around the league, right, you knew Grenda
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: was gonna get the line share, and then Charberna. We've
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: seen this sample size before. Charberna, That's why he was
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: seventy percent on. I mean he last time we seen this,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: he got like ninety percent of the snaps, right, which
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: is more than Saquon Barkley and guys like that that
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: are literally five thousand dollars more expensive. Right, So it's
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: just like those are the two value plays you kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: of just eat because it's good value. And it's not
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: like we're like the Braylan Allen and the other guys. Right,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: those guys have more of an unknown they're in different
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: they're in terrible offenses, right. They have other guys there, right,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: even when they're all healthy, I mean, they're all getting work.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: So the other kind of value running backs there that
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: where people were trying to pivot to just had a
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: lot more kind of a lot more ways that they
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: could go wrong, right, compared to a Grindo or a Charbernet,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: because we had literally sample sizes and we've seen it before.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: So that's another additional layer to add to it. And obviously,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: well how do I know that? Or that you can
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: ask questions in the discord. I know the crew brought
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: it up on the Sunday Shell, right. There's just ways
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: to look at it, and you see it right on
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the stone. Look at the optimal on Braylen Allen versus
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Grindo and Trabernay. I mean it's literally half.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing too is this is again I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: wouldn't ignore this, but this was a note too. If
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you wanted to get different on Alan, like that's what
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I talked about, you could have played the Miami d again,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: not about results, just ways to get different if he
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was the third guy up and he was the third
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: when it came to the optimal level here. But we
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, liking the Adams or we liked
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Adams the most and it ended up being him. There
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: was lineups that I saw that featured him. Where when
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you weren't landing on Alan, why not play in Adams.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the leverage you're looking at because you
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: know Alan could be a good play, but you also
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: worry that it's Aaron Rodgers and the guy seemingly never
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: wants to hand it off when they get down to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the red zone end zone area. On top of the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: fact that O line has some issues, there was lots
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: of talks coming in about Isaiah Davis. And Isaiah Davis
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: another prime example what I always talk about. He actually
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: had a great day, right he had the early touchdown,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: He had a bunch of touches, like everything was fine,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: but just not going to be needed more of an
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: anytime touchdown bet or something like that. If you have
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the coach speak and want to get after it where
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it frames your mind up that it may not be Alan,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean you have to move to Davis.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: That means you can either a get different like we
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: just talked about with the other guys we talked about
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: down below or at different ways with them. I'm saying,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: like we talked about play Adams instead play Dolphins, d
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: play the Tui stacks with Alan. We talked about that
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it was actually a game that went off a little
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: bit and just wasn't needed on the slate. But just
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to note the alternative would be like my Mahomes, what
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: was Kareem hunt that week? When I said, like, honestly,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not playing mahomes. But I understand why people are
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: this week. It should have it should have made me
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: keep my cream Hunt ownership in check, not need to
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: go somewhere else. The thought process here could have been,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that's why you're okay leaving Alan out of the bunch,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: but playing those other two chalk running backs. And before
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: we go to the winner of the twenty dollars, I
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: do just want to show this quickly using shipdemizer, because
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: this is something I want to show off. So the
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: optimal we had yesterday wouldn't have shipped anything, but it
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: had you know, Donald, It had Grindo, it had sharp
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and I had the usual suspects if you will. It
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: had a projected point total of one hundred and forty
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: six point seven. And I know, you know, so people
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: are looking at this in the process and breaking it
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: all down. So I just want to go back real
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: quick to hear this lineup. I'll try and do it
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: from from heart, just to delete it and see if
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I can even remember it was at one hundred and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: thirty five, but just to show it. If I take
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: if I turn off handbuilding, go here and go buy
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: projected value. Donald. And then we talked about Jefferson, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: we talked about Addison and Mooney, right was the guy
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: we said, if you set it up that way, NaN's
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: where's uh?
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Mooney was fifty fifty something?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Hold on, no, that's yeah. I got so. Then then
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the two these two running backs up top, they plug
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: in easily like that. And this is just one variation
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I got to where even if you go with the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Chalk d the Saints the top value in Djoku, it
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: leaves seventy one hundred. And who's the other guy we
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: liked at seventy one hundred this week was Tyreek? Right?
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: We were talking about that game a ton and this
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: lineup even so, just to note this line up here,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I think it got to two hundred and sixty or something,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: two hund sixty five, Like it was a huge score.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: It wasn't enough to ship the Millie, but it was
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: right there. And this is something you could almost hand
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: build off the stuff. It still had lower owned options
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in it, Like Mooney wasn't super owned, Tyreek wasn't gonna
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: be scheduled to be super owned. Addison and Djoku were
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: kept in check. So this is just the prime example.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: At one hundred and thirty three point five, and if
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you compare it to here one hundred and forty six,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you're you're only ten off of this. This lineup has
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: nobody under ten percent. There's literally no leverage the product.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: The projected ownership is high, and the product ownership is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: obviously high because when you're multiplying out those bigger numbers,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you're not getting anybody below ten, so you know it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: not gonna be good. And if you go back to here,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: this one was one hundred and thirty five point five,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: but only ten points or eleven points off the optimal
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: twelve points. Whatever it exactly is my point more so
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: being I'm well, I'm excited when it's within those types
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of points. Correlated makes sense. Hits on the spots even
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: has the good chock in it that we showed you
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: off the stone and you're able to get to that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and more. That to me makes sense. You go over
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to the stack rankings Darnald Jefferson in djoku. By the way,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: muth ended up up top there with what we saw
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: right like, so you're looking at some of this stuff,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it fits. That's just my point. So if you're looking
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: at how to use the optimizer, this is one way
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to do it, and I will use that real quick
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: just to talk about it because it did launch today,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: but DFS Mastermind, you guys haven't yet checked it out.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: This was the feedback. You can check it all out here,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But a lot of people took this little hour and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: seventeen minute course that I did. I go through on
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: DFS Mastermind my actual strategy and my process for using
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: ship deviser. You can you apply it to any optimizer.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: But these are some of the comments. People talked about,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like it's One guy said, it's like a father telling
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: his son, here's the shed, here are the tools, go
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: treat the yard, versus a father showing his son, here's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the shed, here are the tools. This is the this
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: is the way I treat the lawn. He finds effective,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and then the sun goes out and does it so
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you can check it out. I just want to bring
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that up because a lot of people wonder how that works.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's the key is just get your own process,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: learn from others, and apply it to yours. But clearly
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: that just shows you another way, even by hand, that
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you could do it. And I'll go back to it
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in a second because I want to show the Josh
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Allen version. But let's look at this winter Nades Josh Allen,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: so shut up. This DM seventeen elid Katz won congrats
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: as well, but been on an absolute heater, I know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and got second in the Millie. But it's had a
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: ton of big wins and live final seats lately, so
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: congrats to them as well. But here's the winner. Nate's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: take us through it, snake, DM seventeen, go through the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: lineup and what you think?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so here I just looked he had fifteen lineups
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: in the MILLI here so another another spot where oh
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you need one hundred and fifty to win, right this?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think we've seen one hundred and
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: fifty win max winner win the Millie all year right
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: in the main lott of contest. So that just throws
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: everyone out there is I can't play the Millie, right,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I can't take a shot and I was the best
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: tournament to play if that's the only thing you're playing,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: absolutely not. But is it a tournament you can throw
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: in and add in for for the what if? Right?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: The what if? Jerry talks about that. Scarface talks about
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: that all the time in the discord and that in
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: your interview talking about DFS Mastermind that it just gives
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: you ceiling right. But going back to this lineup here,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the Josh Allen, I really like that because it flipped
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: the build on the script up the build on its head.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yesterday everyone at eight K who was playing everyone at
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: eight K was playing Alvin Kamara yesterday. I get it,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: it's a different position, but since you're plugging in both
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the value running backs, most people in the flex were
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: adding in Kamara. What did he do? He didn't go
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: with three running backs? He or she didn't go with
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: three or running backs in the In the build, they
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: went and added a third running back in Josh Allen right,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: but played him at the quarterback position, stacked him up
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: with Shaquir Right, played the roulette, got lucky there and
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: hit Shakuir. But that's that's the nature. I'm sure in
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: his portfolio he had other guys mixed in or naked
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, stuff like that. So I really like that because,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, Sam Donald yesterday was sixty one hundred. He
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: was projected to be very chalky there, and then you
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: had the AOC stuff, the cheap guys AOC will Levis Baker, Mayfield,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald. Those were your chalk quarterbacks. There were two
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars or more cheaper than Josh Allen right, and
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: it allowed you to spend up then at running back,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: so flipping the bill there, spending up a wide receiver
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: with the Puka Nakua. Really like that. We already talked
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: about the Moone game. In that little Mooney Addison correlation.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I like that quite a bit. I think that's pretty
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: sharp because Mooney's a pivot off of Drake London in
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the same game, and Addison's a pivot off of Hockinson
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and Justin Jefferson, who are both higher owned at much
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: higher while Addison is a little bit more I think
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: eleven hundred dollars more than Hockinson, who he could have
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: played there in that flex, but he's also cheaper, what
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: twenty five hundred dollars cheaper or fifteen hundred dollars cheaper
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: than Jefferson at the same position. You get a secondary
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: sack Addison and Mooney speeds it up right, they go
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: back and forth. I really like that. Two wide receiver ones,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: if you will, right on their teams, or could be
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: wide receiver ones and go back and forth, and then
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: you just plug in the value and the friar Muth
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: value we already talked about. And I thought it was
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: a very sharp play because Pickens was out Pickens. It
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: was their possession guy, right, Kelvin Austin was always going
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: to play his same role, Right, he was always going
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to be the home run play guy. He's not going
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to all of a sudden get thrusted in there and
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: catch twelve twelve balls. Right, Who do those targets for
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Pickens go to? Most likely Friarmoth? Now did Firemouth absolutely smash?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. But you knew there was more targets available, right,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: six to seven eight targets a week Pickens was getting
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: those have to go somewhere. They're not all gonna go
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to Calvin Austin. Why not just go to the guy
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that's already heavily involved over the middle of the field.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: If US is getting pressure right in that division game,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: why can't it be Friarmuth at a onesie position. That's
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: also leverage off of Hockinson because you're already playing Jordan
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Addison and things like that. So I love to build
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: a ton.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bill's amazing realistically you look at it. That's
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: what I said. I'm gonna go back and work backwards
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: real quick, just to show you guys. But another prime example,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: right got to the chalk running backs and then how
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: can I play a stack that's different within it? I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: think the chap brought up some good stuff too, So
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: like Sean said, that exact comment, so shot out to him,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that's that's what it was, and I'll go there in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: a second. More said exactly what I did, but faded
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Alan and ate the other chalk. And then Sean made
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a good point too. A lot of what was happening
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: yesterday is the Barkley stuff, with all the late stuff
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and even being able to play you know now that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Calvin Austin became available, people were able to get to
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Barkley easier and do it that way where I think
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of people wanted to go to Hurts. But
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: in reality, Josh Allen with weapons missing by the way,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: multiple made it even more condensed. You could play him naked.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: There was all of that. If you look at our
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: stack rankings, it wasn't the best, but it wasn't the worst.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: You know, almost at an eight, which usually for us,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: there's not this many in the eight range, but there
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was ways to mix that up. If you look at
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the stone, the purple right when you go over to
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: shiper nation and get the stone. So it's the best
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: tool in the vest the target game, that was a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: good spot to target. The optimals won't show up phenomenal,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: but it is a good spot. The past defense is
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: suspect or sorry suspect. The rush defense is bad. There
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: was a chance that you know, Allan by himself could
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: do what he did, run a bunch of touchdowns in
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and throw for some as well. We had good options
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: on the other side, like Nikua and whatnot, and so
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: just going back for a second, AD's like, this is
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the thing too. You can almost work backwards if you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: go at those two running backs, which when you sort
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: by value. For me, this is always like a thing
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: that all look at. Remember we talked about it a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: couple versions of the takedown, breakdown and go, and people say, oh,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I always start with my quarterback. This is actually a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: prime example where you don't have to, like you can
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: just look at this and fill it out and say,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: like some of the stuff we've seen that makes sense.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: The Steelers in Friarmouth were both up there. These two
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: options are just automatic. What I noticed, though, is when
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you go to wide receiver, look where we had Shakir
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: way up the board. Okay, plug Shaki in. Well, Nikua
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: is right there, Cup is right there, and there's tons
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: of different ways. I'm not saying this would have won
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you the MILLI, but once you land here and see
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you have sixty three hundred dollars left per like per player,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that gets pretty clear at that point that if you
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: go Stafford you have sixty six hundred, and then maybe
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you're looking to fill it out again, this wouldn't have
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: got you there. I'm just trying to show off examples.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: We're not being results oriented. Sixty two two hundred in
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the flex, not saying it would have won you all
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the money, just showing examples. But this lands you on
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: a let's say you don't want metcalf like, I don't
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: really love the range, but I guess it would have
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: landed you probably hear this build is good. I don't
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: think it would have scored amazing because some of the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: other misses. But just to show it off, you've got
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the target game with a secondary stack of charbonnet and McBride.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: You got Friarmouth and the Steelers D we saw and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: you land on Grindo. So I think that's an example, right,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: But if you take out McBride, take out Cup, take
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: out Stafford, and make an even take out the Steelers D.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: They weren't even at the top. Let's go back here
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and let's go find the guy that makes sense in
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: this build with Josh Allen. Where is he now? Josh
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Allen at the top? And now what are we missing?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: So what pieces don't we have covered here? Nad's like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: let's just chow, let's just plug in the value D
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: What else are we missing here? What did somebody else have?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So fifty seven to fifty look at this? Here we go,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Oh this is again wouldn't have won you all the money.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: But if you look at our stuff another just a
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: good build. I think fifty seven fifty eight and this
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: didn't get there, but just to show it, you would
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: add Josh Allen, Shakir Naikua. You get your secondary stack
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: with Ridley and Thomas. In that game, you get your
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Pickens is out Firemouth, you get you're not on Kamara,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: but instead you're not on any giants either. So you
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: got that d against them, and then you get your
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: two shot running backs with the stack that makes sense.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: This is how you land on it. It's got one
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four point So what were we like?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Eleven points off are optimal at sixty percent less ownership
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: total and you do have one, two, three options under
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: five percent, let alone the ones under twenty percent. So
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: just to show you guys, like, I hope that helps,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: like a way you can see it anything else you
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: see with that, Like, I don't know exactly what that
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: would have scored, but maybe while you're talking about up.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: In the chat too, right, not only that is okay,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: the spin up quarterbacks you had hurt you had Josh Allen.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Hurts is at home against the Carolina Panthers outside in Philly,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: right with a fully healthy DeVante Smith, AJ Brown, Saquon Barkley.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen is losing weapons in a dome on the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: road right against a team that has very very good
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: offensive weapons that Hey, Kyron can break a run right
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and score touchdown, or Poka Nakua can be a beast
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: right and score it at will Cooper cup right, Stafford
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: can throw the ball. Still, it's still a competent offense
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: that can easily push the pace much more likely than
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: what a Carolina team can do outdoors, right and push
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the pace on the road. Right. So that's just another
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: thing to kind of look at is you're playing for ceilings, right.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: In these tournaments, you want ceilings. So when you look
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: at a build like this on your screen, do these
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: guys in this roster have the opportunity and the ability
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to go out and score thirty? Now you're not saying
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: they're going to go out and score thirty, but what's
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the likelihood they do, right? Because you want them to
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: score twenty five to thirty points to win the million Maker, right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Obviously you needed the forties yesterday. But that's another thing
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: looking at the build. When you kind of take a
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: step back after you plug your building, you look at it,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you went through all your thought process, look at the
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: build and see, Okay, what's the likelihood these guys actually
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: have a ceiling and what's the probability that they have
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: available to hit that ceiling? Right? So I think because
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: when we reviewed last week, right, there was a lot
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: of there was some lineups that had four guys that
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: realistically their ceilings like twelve points right, and it's kind
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: of thin to get that. Whereas like you look at
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: a build like this, Tony Pollard ceiling absolutely, Josh Allen ceiling,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Charbenay in that offense in the role, huge ceiling right,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Shakir obviously. So all these guys in this build have
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a ceiling with their respective game environments that they're in
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: and the roles that they have within the offense.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: So that built was two hundred and forty six points
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that I put up and then I just went and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: swapped it again. This is again. I know it's the results.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Other wants me know the answer. But the point was
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to show you that if you didn't start with the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: quarterback and you plugged in Sharbona and Grendo, and you
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: plugged in a top value D, which you know, even
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Pollard was okay, and we talked about him a ton
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: on the slate if you weren't playing Ridley to go
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to him, and then he paired with a D that
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: was way up there and you wouldn't be on the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: New Orleans stuff, which is fine, but friar Mouth plugs
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: in for the Pickens News. And then look how high
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: up we had Shakir and Nikua. That would then lead
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: you to Okay, maybe I can get to Josh Allen
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: now and then I land on Jennings. I talked about
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: that combo pack all day yesterday, so there's gonna be
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: a combo pack like that. This lineup again wouldn't win
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you the Millie, but two hundred and sixty one fantasy
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: points on again a one hundred and thirty four point
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: projection only eleven points off are optimal, way lower ownership
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and for sure a better product because four nine fourteen
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: four nine, like this is just a way better setup
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: for your build, fully correlated using the heavily owned chalk
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: pieces that everyone knows our big chalk, but then getting
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: in it, getting around to it to a different way.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty point six
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: was on this lineup, so just to know it, like
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: you know, this is a way you can check stuff
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: out and work backwards to sort of check your work.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I always love doing that, so I thought that was
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: just another thing to check out there. So real quick,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: let's go to the five to fifty five Millie Maker winner.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And somebody said this was a rough day. Let me
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: just go and see here, so you talked about it earlier.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: You can put one hundred and fifty lineups into the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: five fifty five. To be clear, a lot of these
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: people are getting in on satellites like they're not just
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: max entering it. So I think that's something to remember
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: as well. They've won their way in. But just so
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you see that everybody loses at times. There's always gonna
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: be losses in some places and wins. Another shout out
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to my boy Panta Sin. I know he got some
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: more live final seats yesterday. He did not do the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: best in the five to fifty five, but if you
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: go over here to the three k, he got second
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: for I believe one hundred k. So you know they're
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: they're playing at stakes. They're comfortable playing at there's you know, ups,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: downs all around. Need lunch money. Another great dude. Eric's
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: awesome guy. He always makes these live finals and just
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: crushes it. He came in first for two hundred k here.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I think he was the only one made eight hundred
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: bucks on the he only played one hundred. He was
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you know, he said, I'm not gonna maxis sing, I'll
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: play one hundred and again. Probably want a ton of
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: tickets to get there. But eight hundred was what shows
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: as the ROI. But let's look at the winner here, Naates.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Let's go to JBK and you always look this up.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Twenty four entries for JBK in this one. So maybe
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: we'll look at the exposures after and then we'll get
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: to the the lineup reviews. But Darnald Jefferson Addison, you
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: had Grindo Charbonay went with Nause for the Pickens News, right,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you get a ten percent on Nause. You had an
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: okay start till he didn't and then got Nikua in there.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson who Hoopster called the touchdown on yesterday, that
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: was another nice call there, and uh Pittsburgh defense with Nase.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: So I really like this build. Actually it uses the
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: fifty k obviously a little bit higher owned, but it's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: a smaller right, only five thousand and five entries. But
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: still look at this, well, you know, we just talked
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: about this today in the discord. But the product ownership
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: much lower than the you know, is what you should
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: be looking at. The total is at one eighty five,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: but because there's a six, A six, A, A ten
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and eleven, a lot of it's coming from the sixty
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and the forty percent guy. As long as you're slicing
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: into that in other places, you're going to get leverage
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and be able to find your way up the board.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: So what's your thoughts on this one?
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I like this build a lot. Obviously the Charborda
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: in Grendel, right, we hit on that enough. I mean
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like value in NBA and other sports, right,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: value at running back is different than value at like
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: wide receiver. Right, where there's four or five wide receivers
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: on a team. Running back there's one, maybe two guys
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: right in that. So I'm much more comfortable eating value
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: at a running back position where you know they're going
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: to touch the ball, they don't have to rely on
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: somebody else to get them in the ball. Right, So
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I like that a lot. I didn't want to call
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: that out one more one more time there with the Donald,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: the Jefferson and the Addison stack like that a ton.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: It was highlighted in our slate plan. If you're not
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: playing Hockinson, who's projected be chalk at tight end, why
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: not Slott in Addison to say, if it's not hock
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: it's got to be somebody else. If if you're double
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: stacking Donald, if he's going out there and throwing three
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: touchdowns three hundred yards, right, it's likely another wide receiver
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: or a tight end or somebody else outside of Jefferson
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: is going to come along there. So I like that
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: throwing in the puka as a way to instead because
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: you're not spending up to a Camara in a chan
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: of Barkley spinning up at another wide receiver position, which
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: is also different according to the field. Because you didn't
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: spend all the way up with a guy like Nase,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you have that extra salary to spend up at a
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: wide receiver spot where you know most people are playing
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Camara there at a similar price, right for three hundred
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: dollars more, or they're they're playing a Bijon or an
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: e Chan or obviously going all the way up to Barclay.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: So just flipping the bill there, and since you're not
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: playing tomorrow, you kind of double leverage it and say, okay,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: if Kamar is not getting there, maybe it's Juwan Johnson
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that takes the end zone work right, and you throw
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: it in there at a onesie position that's also hey,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: mind you leverage off the same stack right of Hockinson
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: right for six hundred or eight hundred dollars cheaper, right.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I think Hockston was forty three hundred, right. So I
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: like to build a lot, leverages a ton, And then
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: how do you play the Pittsburgh defense in a way
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that's going to be more unique when they're projected to
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: be twenty plus percent on going into the slate. You
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: pair them up with the defense, or or you pair
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: them up with a running back who you know is
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: just not going to pick team that has late news
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: his way, that could get off more dump offs than
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: that with pickings out of the offense. So I like
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: to build a ton.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the setup that you just said the
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: last part. First off, you know, I know it's early
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: in the day for you, but said six hundred or
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: eight hundred, it's actually nine hundred forty three.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Easy's on the go. Not my specialty. I'll tell you
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: that I.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Got to hit you one time, but it's fun doing these.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So just to break it down though, I love the
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: last part you mentioned, and where like Calvin Austen maybe
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: gets you to a Barkley here or something, but you're
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: giving up a lot and it's like you don't even
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: know what Austin's gonna do, plus the blow up potential,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: plus the hurt stuff. Again, just hindsight in thinking back,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: not necessarily even results oriented, where he says to your
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: point on the Charbonnet and the Grindo, where it's like
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: they're gonna touch it no matter what. Let's get to Harris. Yes,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Warren's there, and there's other stuff, but let's think about
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: how this game might play on the ground now that
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: they don't have pickens and they want to do it
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: this way. The thought process would be, why not be
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: able to keep him and not have to give up
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: one of my Jefferson or Addison's with this quarterback who
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I'm playing in Darnold, or not having to go away
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: from Nikua, who a lot of people felt really good about.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: And he didn't even really get steamed up anywhere twelve
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: percent For a guy that's just been dominant and getting
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: pretty much everything feels like he can do it all.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: That's a great spot. So this was a really good
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: lineup two hundred and sixty four points. And it just
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: goes to show too, those previous builds that I did
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: by hand and ship Tomizer. It's like, if you are
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: building for something like this and even only have one lineup,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: incorporate some of these strategies that we've talked about, it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: still obviously projected well. Like who would this is a
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: good projection the top projections. Donald was a great one,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Jefferson was good, Nick Cool was good. You saw if
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: you're playing Donald, Addison's fine. If you're not playing Kamara,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Johnson's fine. Even Johnson was up the board a little bit,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and the nausey stuff as you're plugging for the Pickens news.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: So to me, this would have projected pretty great. Not
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the best, but pretty great. Had fair ownership for the bigger,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: you know, higher dollars, smaller field, and had a ton
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: of leverage points in it where it's still correlated. It
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: still makes sense for the slate. It's leveraging certain spots.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: This is just a great lineup. So shout out to
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: JBK forty four two forty just wanted to look quickly
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: actually here to see how they played twenty four lineups.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: So Donald in seventeen percent, Rogers in twelve percent, Pretty
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: in twelve percent, and then a little bit of O'Connell
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Gino and Hurts with a few shots, like one lineup
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of these. I like playing it like this. If I
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: have twenty lineups, give or take, like commit on three
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: or four, you know, go a couple with the other
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: ones that fall in behind them, and then let somebody
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: else sprinkle in. I've I've been doing a lot more
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you know, review stuff lately, obviously with DFUS Mastermind, just
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: going through it, and you'll see that a lot amongst
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: these players that are having success and find their web
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to the board and the top. So though, just to
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: note that similar at running back overweight stance almost all
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: in on sharbon Ag just didn't quite go all in,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: and that's fine, I think. So this sets up well, myers.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: This is one note that'll stand out, and I'll let
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: you take it over at the end here Knave's but
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: just quick, I like this. I love this, actually, I say,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: And I just talked about this on that same optimizer
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: video that I talked about earlier. I don't care about
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: running back like this is certainly a week I'm letting
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: it spread out up to seventy seventy five percent. I'm
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: not a lock button guy on on my full portfolio,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: but I would really let it expand because of how
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: good these values were and everything that you've already talked about,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and we made the point like they could have scored.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Charmona didn't need forty two to be as good as
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: he was on all these winning lineups. He's could have
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I could have scored twenty eight and still probably would
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: have been on those winning lines just a product of
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: sixty five percent of the field having him. So that's
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: just the note there. But I love this wide receiver
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: much more volatile. So I'm capping wide receiver. I'm spreading
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: it out more, and I'm letting options get in there.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: If not Jefferson, let me make sure I have some addison.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: If not Jacoby Myers, let me get some trade Tucker
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: or someone in there, like things like that. So I'm
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: good there. Tight end similar way I cap tight end
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: around this twenty percent range. So I like that, and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: same for DST. But he was willing to go heavier
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: or they were willing to go heavier on tennessee Sony.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Any thoughts on exposures here.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that a lot. I know a lot
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: some of the best players after when I go in
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: and do my review and stuff and looking at player
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: pools and things like that. A lot of the best
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: players in the world cap wide receiver and tight end
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: at twenty five to thirty percent, right, which you kind
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: of see in this and defense as well, right, because
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: those are volatile positions. And when you do that, when
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: you put a max global cap on a position like
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: a wide receiver, you it's apparent that he or she
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: in this portfolio, right or in ship tomizer, you have
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: the game stack setting set up, so naturally you're going
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: to get some leverage within those stacks from the other
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: guys within those offenses in games you're targeting when you
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: put a global cap instead, if you don't, right, the
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: projections and optimizers whatever you're using, is just going to
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: slam a guy like Jacoby Myers or Juwan Jennings, right,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: So then you'll miss out on the other guys within
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: those offenses because it's just taking the best projection, right.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: So when you do that, you're kind of over creating
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: leverage within your portfolio, which is huge obviously when you're
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: attacking these tournaments.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Shady advice one of the best in the world.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I know we got a live final c Yes, I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: think already had some others just absolutely crushes and coming
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: off the Baseball Live Final wins. So looking to go
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: back to back at Live Finals for Shady advice for
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the big ones and twenty. I like this because Shady
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: played twenty lineups yesterday and just to look at his exposures,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, spread out more at quarterback, committed
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: to a couple little bit in behind. I like this
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: for you know, twenty lineups in a five to fifty five.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Remember people could play up to one fifty. He played
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: twenty and was able to make profit. And I know
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: he had a big day otherwise and had some good
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: ones in there, but similar thing. Really committed to Charbonnet
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: as you know, even over the top, but not lock button,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: and then still committed to other spots at or just
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: over or above the field, under the field, did commit
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: more at wide receiver. Like I said, I'm usually sort
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: of in that thirty range. He was willing to go
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: more with these four with Juwan, Jerry, Judy Myers, Drake, London,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Ingram fine, but after that sort of twenty five percent
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and down defense Tennessee. Fine, but after that twenty percent
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: and down and then just looking at the lineups, definitely
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: fine with the combo pack wasn't looking to leverage that.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, at ten, ten to six for both of those,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: your numbers in pretty good shape. If Grindo has a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: day like this, then you add on twenty eight from
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings, you're in really good shape. So it makes
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of things work. Played some San Francisco D
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: with Grindo, played the Evan Ingram play as it looks
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: like with some Pollard, right, you're seeing it here. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to look because he had a
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: little bit more Evan Ingram and I want to see
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: what that looked like because it just was a bit
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a bit of an off the board play at six percent.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Then most of them with Pollard and an is Ridley exposure.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: That's that's where that probably came in.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like. That's why I seen some of
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: it was with Pollard. Pollard with the Tennessee D was
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: another one I liked quite a bit. He's got that
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: in here a couple of times, you know, don't know
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: he's forcing it, but at Kamara with the Saints D.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: So these deep dives are what I like. Right, That's
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: where I'm going to go through and see what other
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: players are doing and how they're handling certain spots. You know,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: how does somebody play five lineups here? Here's another one
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: if I go to let's see here, if we can
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: see real quick, I've got five lineups at the end
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: of the month for the Mega Ultimate or whatever it's
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: called there, and that's the you know, the one that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be looking at because it's a three
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: thousand person field, but it will play very similar to this,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: so ill I would spend time going in and looking
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: like sheets really solid player. Great dude. I'm actually gonna
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: have an interview with him for DMS Mastermind soon to
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: see how did he play his five teams right? And
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: then look at what he did with his stuff because
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: you can just go compare exposures and that they didn't
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: do well. But it's more about how he's playing them
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: than not. So let's look at some lineup reviews quick.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: This was what I wanted to talk about first, so
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: shut aut to broke. Dad said my best one and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: first two hundred point lineup. Would love to have feedback, FYI.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Elijah Moore was the last guy in two things. I
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: would say, One, we don't It's not always about just
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: reviewing your best lineup. Some of the best stuff you
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: can find out it's not from your best line up.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Your best lineup did great, and that's what you were
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: hoping would win you all the money, and you're happy
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: about the result, and that's amazing stuff. That's what we're
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: trying to do, is find success. But I would say
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: that you know you're you're usually not gonna take very
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: much away. Besides, you built it good or like that.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to like shun it or say it's bad,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: but I'm just saying more of like it's it's you're
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: gonna find obvious stuff. You know, you played Josh Allen here.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: You filled it in with pretty good, you know, plays
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: that were good on the slate. You had some leverage
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: built in. But like focus on some of the other stuff.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Everybody always sends their best in this lineup is great.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: It resulted fine, But like Elijah Moore was your last
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: guy in, shouldn't matter. He was in a great spot
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Tillman was out. It was a piece of that offense.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Like that's just because he did bad, doesn't matter that
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: he was your last decision. He might have been your
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: best play in the lineup outside of you know, some misses.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I will say the one thing I would take away
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: about it being your best one, it is your best result,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: but you had no Grindo. You you did go Jennings
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: and Smith, which I like if you're not playing Grindo,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: and and sharbon Ay. And so you did like a
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: double flip because you you flipped Sharboney to JSN. You
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: flipped Jennings from Grindo. But you almost did like a
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: quadruple flip because then you played Braylen Allen as the
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: other cheap running back instead of them, and then you
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: played the Giants d since you're not on Kamara or
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Juwan or anybody. So I think that's what I'm saying.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Your build is good. There's not much really to take away.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: That's why it had a pretty good result or whatever,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: or it did in turn of a pretty good result.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: But to me, it's not always your best one that
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you want to pinpoint for review. Take the one that
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: you're wondering what went wrong or what do if you're
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: not sure. To me, you'd be pretty confident about this one.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I guess the best way to put it go ahead
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and needs.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd agree with that. The only other thing. I mean,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: there's just a ton of overleverage here. I think there
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: you can definitely leverage is good, right, But with all
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the reviews that we've seen all had a bunch of
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: chalk with one to three right pivots. And that's what
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: schip demizer helps you do because you leveraged right that
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: you double leverage the camara with the Giants defense and
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: then also playing Bijon right, you'd double leverage the charbernet
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: and Girndo plays with Braylan Allen JSN and Jowan Jennings right,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: So Braylen Allen's still a good play right. But when
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: you look at the stone, I know you're a member.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: When you look at the stone and you see the
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: optim what's seventeen versus forty four and twenty eight or
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: whatever it was, you're just kind of triple in quadruple
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: leveraging down on those situations. I would or rather had
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: you just eat one of those and then still had
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: your leverage with the other one or something like that.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: So there is a way you can kind of leverage
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: yourself out of potential, right, And I think there's a
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: little bit of that going on here.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Before I forget I want to tag it on because
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good call out. And again this
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: is results oriented. But people that have watched us and
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: been with us for a long time, one, we appreciate
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you too. It's just you know, we're gonna call it
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: like we see it if we can quickly see things.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: And one that I quickly see is like you could
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: obviously play the combo pack and get the get the
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: twenty four percenter in there instead of Alan and plug
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: in Grindo. You could still keep your secondary and your
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: naked Josh Allen, or you would have been able to
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: do something like the Khalil or whatever you want to
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: do here, where you could have brought friarmuth in as
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: a secondary stack with more as away with the late
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: news that we got and then pop JSN up to
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Nikua or something, and again obviously would have got you
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: a better result. But I just think you went. You
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: went with correlation, but you also went with a ton
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: of extra leverage just to do it versus didn't need to.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: You could have still kept this correlation. And that's a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: topic that keeps coming up and will be a common theme,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: you know, with NFL always, it's with every sport on needs.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: It gets brought up so often you were like, well,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I always have the right pieces but in the wrong spots,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: and I correlated. Correlation is literally first base of NFL
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: dfs and and really of any sport at this point
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: that that involves correlation, meaning everybody's correlating, Like optimizers are
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: automatically doing it, contest sims are pushing it. You know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: you can use stuff and watch shows like this to
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: teach you even how to handbuild with it. But I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: always use baseball, and I know you love it, and
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: it works the best for that one. And I think
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: because you can take you know, there could be five
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: really good parks and ten really good teams in those
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: five parks batting and against horrible pittures. But there's this
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: offense that everybody knows could pop off and is still expensive,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: but they're going against a much better picture, in word,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: a worse park. You can stack that one through five,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: land on a secondary stack of one through three on
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: a cheaper team, and get two decent pictures in there,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: and guess what, baboom, You're correlated. It's a terrible build.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: It might be thirty points off the optimal going in
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: like just because you're correlated, doesn't mean you have a
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: good lineup. It's a starting point that makes less things
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: need to go your way. So I definitely recommend correlation.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, but you're not just stopping there. You're looking
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: at game theory, leverage, the additional pieces where what can
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: you get away with and what still makes sense. It's
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: not results oriented here to say. Just put in the
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: combo pack with Grindo over Allen, where there was the
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: most the stone, the tools, everything makes it make more sense.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Drop Smith down. There's no real leverage or anything needed
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: to Miami, but we like the spot, so I'm not
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: gonna take it away from you. It fits the secondary
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: stack with Alan, but you already had a Cleveland guy
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: that made sense. And if you put Friarmouth in here,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you get the same points, but pick up some cash
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: to be able to go from JSN up to Nikoua.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: At that same token, you could have left a little
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: bit of money or drop down Allen from Grinda who
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I just said, and played sharbon Ay, so you still
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: could have had sharbon Ay, you would have had Jennings
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: instead of Grindo, and you would have had Nikua across
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: while getting a Pittsburgh piece in it would have had
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit less leverage, still would had the same
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: projection or better probably probably would had a better projection then,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Like if you go Sharboney, Nikua and Friarmouth, I almost
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: guarantee you it has a better projection than Alan JSN
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and Smith. I'll lock it like I don't even have
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: to look it up. That's a better projection. There's still
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: huge leverage. It's not crazy difference on anything else. So
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: just little things like that. It's results oriented, but it's
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: to let you know ways of thinking about it. Let's
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: go to Morse eighty four to oh three. Main lineup
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: entered across multiple contests, so I like that aspect of it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: It's not it's not the best score, but contest selection
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: things like that matter. This might be a satellite, Yeah,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: this is right there. Best finish was the third place
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: in the satellite and you didn't get the job done.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: But this is a really good lineup, right, So I'll
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: let you take this one. Ned's let's see what you
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: got here.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: So it's got the Donald Addison Hockinson stack, which I
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: like a lot. The run back in Drake London. Okay,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: so The only thing I will say on that is,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: I guess it's a little different, right because most people
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: when they were double stacking, were added Hockinson, but with
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Jefferson to middle. That's why they threw in Hockinson to
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: keep down that salary which got you up to London.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: So I think when most people were going in yesterday
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: looking the slate, I mean a lot of optizers were
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: kind of given that starting point. So I do like
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: the little flip that you did from Jefferson to Addison
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: but still playing Hockinson, right, because you know most people
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: are playing Jefferson there. So I like that flip just
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: from what I was seeing yesterday when I was running
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: teams and working through that. I like adding the forty
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: nine ers defense with Grendo. I already talked about that
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: a lot because people were trying to make Cale Williams
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: work yes yesterday. I know people knew they were playing
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: some of those wide receivers in that, so just cut
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: down on the ownership. Play the forty nine ers defense
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: that's also leveraged around the similar, similar price range, a
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: little bit more expensive than the Titans, right, three hundred
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: dollars more. I think I got that one right this time,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: but and then just plugging in the Charberne, which allowed
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: you to spin up with Barkley. And you probably are
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: kind of kicking yourself all Barkley. But Tambill brought up
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: good points. I mean, it's the Carolina. They're at home.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: What's Phillies' goals. The Phillies' goals aren't to go drop
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: fifty points on Carolina here. Their goal is to keep
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: their team healthy, get out. If they have to grinding
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: on to win, fine, but they're gonna take I mean,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: there's more ways that a nine K Barkley can go
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: south than guys like Kamara and some of those other ones,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: because you got the tush Bush right, which is unstoppable,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: and you got Jalen Hurts, who lead the NFL in
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns right. So I'll tell you that I think
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: the build is really good. I think you built the
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: shell different than most people were because when they were
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: playing Hockinson, they were using that as a way to
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: get up to Jefferson, whereas you used Hockinson but then
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: only went up to Addison, which allowed you to get
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: up to a London, which allowed you to get up
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: to a Barclay and then you just plugged in the
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: good values around that.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shut up to Paul here too. So this level
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: of constructive feedback is why I love Sin. Also, Paul
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: won the Big Guy, so we'll have that tomorrow on
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: the first Look show review in your lineup, So congrats
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: to Paul. I think it's the second time winning it.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: So just to note, but Morris is in here, and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: you know Nick Marse is it Marse Mercy, I don't know,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: because it's a New Orleans Nollans. He's in here as well,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: So saying it's not me, just so you know, and
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: we know that you're lsu Nick and you've been crushing
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: But I want to say, Morse, this is a phenomenal build.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I love this build and I want to tell you
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: why not just you know everything need's just said, But
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: just to note it, you had no holes in this lineup.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: You built it differently with Donald. You were able to
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: use Drake London, which I loved yesterday, as a piece
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: where if you're not going Jefferson, but you can get
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the triple stack. You cut in to the Grinda ownership
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: in a different way by playing a non chalk defense,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: a non chalk tight end. And the other thing I loved,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: and I noted this on the show yesterday is if
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: you weren't playing Bowers, I think it was. Again, I'm
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: not results or right. The reason it's a phenomenal bill
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: didn't ship anything. It's two twelve. But my point is,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: if you weren't playing Bowers, how how was Vegas putting
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: up points? And you had to think that it was
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: through myers in the end, the answer was they weren't
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: putting up very many points since Deer McCormick was going
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: to touch the ball a bunch and all that, but overall,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you still played the good plays At running back. You
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: stuck with the stack even though Donald's chalk He's eighty
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: nine percent unowned, you know what I mean, Like ninety
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: percent of the field is not on this guy because
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: it always gets spread out. And instead of a lot
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: of those Donald lineups having Jefferson, you went with Addison
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: and Hawkinson to allow you to run it back. You
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: got the the two chalk pieces in, you cut into
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Grinda with that, You played Barkley without sacrificing. It's not
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: like you needed Calvin Austin to play them. So while
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: this didn't work out, for you. Overall, this is a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: great lineup if you're week to week. And I know
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: we always do the content and everyone else says all
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: the content's always based around mme. Well, this is what
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: single entry and one to three max and five max
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: whatever it is is all about. You built a great
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: lineup for a single entry and a satellite and all that.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: You didn't have to get crazy. The ownership is a
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: little bit boosted in certain places, but for the most
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: part was six ten, eleven eleven. You're keeping it down
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: in certain other places enough to make it happen, and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: especially in the smaller fields. Everyone knows think it's high dollar,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: smaller field. It doesn't even have to be in high dollar,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: it's any smaller field. You're not going completely off the board.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: You're just using the pieces and building them in a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: different way. And a lot of people that played Barkley
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: had to sacrifice and play Calvin Austin or something like that.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: You just didn't get good results out of Barkley, London
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Myers and Howkinson. But the build was great, so phenomenal
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: job to you another one. So I don't think we're
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: gonna crush this one, but just was. This was Caid said,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: best lineup in one of the smaller contests, just another
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: version of using it. I think it was fine. Flip
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the bild. It did get to Austin, but had the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: secondary stack. It didn't have an Atlanta piece, but I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: like that if you weren't going with like this was
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: really nice up here to me, Na's I'm just gonna
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: rush it quickly because there's one more I want to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: get to. But if you're not playing Kamara, double flip
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: here like two hundred bucks more to a Chan and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: play the opposite of Kamara and again look at those
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Usually you're happy with a twenty point day out of
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: your running backs. And by the way, still had Charbonnay.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: The main decision point would be, you know nothing from
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: San Francisco. It's not that they had to put something up.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: They were missing pieces. Now I get it, but no Grindo,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: no Jennings, no Debo, no kid again. You can only
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: do so much. But I just thought I would bring
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: that up there. And then the last one, our boy Chief.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: He's always in here supporting, so I'll make sure I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: show this one off's what's your thoughts on this one, Nate?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: It was a Darnold Jefferson double at l in London McCloud.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: He must have been looking for that cheap combo pack,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: but he had another combo pack in here. He had
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the Barkley kal Katara who got a touchdown? Man, Now
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: that I think about it too, yesterday show title had
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Mike Wilson. I froze my thing up now I think
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: dang hey.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Uh, no title title called Mike Wilson, hoop you call Kalkatara,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: and hoop called Jawan Johnson.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Imagine putting those three together yesterday and having a little
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: any time touchdown that was like the three call outs.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and uh shout out the hoop again. No neighbor,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: neighbors horrible and Juwan Johnson scored. So people that keep
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: wanting to get these things from because the one bad
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: time with NBS. He's been doing just fine on those calls.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: But your thoughts on this one, Andrews In the chat here,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: he said, I handbuilt this one, So let's look at
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I like this. I like the Railroad cloud play.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I talk about him every week. I played him again
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: this week. Nobody plays him. He's on the field for
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: every snap and he's cheap in that offense, right, going
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: with the combo pack. I don't hate it, right, not
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: results oriented, Drake. London was an amazing play. You didn't
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: play Hockinson, so yeah, at a similar I think Rayver
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: and Clown and Hockinson might have been the same price
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: or close. So you went to ray Ray instead of
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: double stacking Donald and just saying, hey, Jefferson can do
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: it all away, and maybe Donald throws it to Oliver,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: maybe he throws it to whoever, right, Naylor, whoever he
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: can throw it to, right, So I don't mind that.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: And the combo pack coming back because it's a tie
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: to your quarterback. I like that. And then the combo
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: with Barkley and Calcintara. Your idea there is you're soaking
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: up the entire end zone, right, so I like that,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: and then just plugging in Grindo and charbor Day and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: the Browns defense. So overall, I like the build quite
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: a bit. And I'm not going to try and say
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: results oriented, Oh you should have moved London, because I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: do like it makes sense in this build.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the only thing I just didn't under
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: like again running it both ways, that's I guess because
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: they're a cheap enough combo pack. I would have liked
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: to leverage London with McLeod more often than not. And
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: again I'm not saying to go land on Addison just
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: to get the nuts and be rolling here. I'm just
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: saying it because to me it makes more sense or
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: or I'll say this, I probably would have flipped it
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: to Kirk Cousins and it wouldn't work. So this tells
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: you everything about us. We're never gonna be results oriented
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: on the overall thing. We're just going through. The thought
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: process is I would have liked to flip it to
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and then bumped up cal Kata to somebody else.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe it goes to I don't know, can you get
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: all the way to I don't Would it have been
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: like a would it have been like a Hawkinson for
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the game stack? How much was kal Katara yesterday? I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: don't know, so he wouldn't have probably been able to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: get there. He would have to move other pieces. I
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: guess that's the tricky is you got everything else in there?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: How much were the Browns yesterday trying to look at this?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I don't On my other screen up and my camera's busted.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm there.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Browns are twenty four hundred. So basically the pont he.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Didn't have a lot of room to move is the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: issue here. That's that's kind of the tricky and the
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: challenge part.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on sixty one Donald, so sixty one
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: minus fifty five hundred, that give him six hundred dollars.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Flipping the Cousins so six hundred dollars plus thirty five
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: hundred what allowed him to go up to a forty
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: one hundred dollars tight end.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Would have been like Friarmuth probably, but he had Cleveland
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: d and then he would have to move that to
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Tennessee or Jacksonville. But I guess all I'm saying is
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I don't I get it. But I also like it's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: more of a showdown thing like tonight when we do
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the showdown show. By the way, that'll be Hoop title
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: and myself on this channel at two pm Eastern today
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: as opposed to one. But just to note, like tonight
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: is Cincy at Dallas. If you're again, this is not
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: a showdown build at all. I'm just trying to correlate
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: thoughts here is if I'm running like Burrow and Jamar. Sure,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: because that's like might be all it is. That's three
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: touchdowns waiting to happen and break the slate at those prices.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: And then if you're just filling in value pieces on
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: the other side with like a Cooks and tollvert or
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Cooks and turbine or something like that, like on a
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Dallas side of a game. Sure, but tonight is Cynthia Dallas.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm bringing this up. If you had a
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Lamb with Rush and then you're using on the other side,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: you know, Higgins and Gesekei or something like that, then
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I get it more. This works that way. But I
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: prefer just going you know, London to Addison or cal
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Katara to Hawkinson and then moving London down and using
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: McLoud as the leverage. It's just not the combo pack
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: eye envision. Maybe London goes to Jennings or some of
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: the rest of It's all good, and I like the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: flip of the d. I like the thought process for
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: how he's building. Still a great score. Two hundred points
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: not enough on that slate. But I do think you know,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: just from a overview and looking from above McLeod and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Calkatara to make it all work is kind of what
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: we talked about earlier. I want one of those or
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: flip the bill to make it so it makes more sense,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: that's all. And to me, it's probably London to Addison
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: and Calkatara up to however you want to do it.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: If you want to do them up to Auntin, or
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: if you do Calcatara to what we said with Hawkinson
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: and then bring one of the other ones down, I'm
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: more I'm more fine with that. Like I think that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: would have been to go a full game stack or
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: something to make it that if it goes off. The
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: other thing about the the Hawkinson one, if you could
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: have got to it and then brought London down, and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: even if you had a went to Cousins at that point,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: it would have been still like a setup of where
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: you could have kept one of them the same and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: had a full game stack. Then at least if Cousins
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: is going off, it's in a back and forth, right,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely think he said here too. My my
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: other high price running back was Kamara. He busted too,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: so little things like that. Any final thoughts needs on this.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: One, No, I think it was good I like to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: flip with the Browns D. Right, you're not playing Calvin
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Austin and and all that, so flip it and you're
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: not playing the Steelers D. So I always liked that flip.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: You didn't do anything wrong there. I know he was
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: trying to explain that, so I like that thought process.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you brought up a good point. Probably the
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: build like this, flipping it to Cousins and then moving
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: to Keelkin Tara somewhere or something like that, I think
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: makes the most sense here. Not results oriented. Right. Cousins
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: obviously didn't do good, right, he threw more picks than
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: he threw touchdowns, right, So outside of that, I think
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: it was good. I think we broke down pretty good
• 1:08:16
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• 1:08:19
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• 1:08:20
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• 1:08:22
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• 1:08:26
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• 1:08:28
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• 1:08:30
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• 1:08:33
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• 1:08:35
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• 1:08:39
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• 1:08:42
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• 1:08:49
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• 1:08:52
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• 1:09:16
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• 1:09:18
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• 1:09:39
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• 1:09:41
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• 1:10:07
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• 1:10:10
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