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Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
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United We Scan podcast. Welcome back everybody.
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I am back this week. I almost didn't think I was
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going to be, but I am here today What are we on episode 84?
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Is that right? Please remind me I'll have my
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phone in front of me. That's.
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What it says? That's what Josh said.
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Hey, cool. I, I, I missed last week.
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You know, I'm, I'm winging it today so I'm not even home.
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So you know, I'm winging it all. How was your week, James?
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Oh, lots and lots of fun. I had to file MY2 grievances
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with management and waiting on a result.
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My ADR is going to meet with management on Tuesday on it,
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supposedly. So we'll see how that turns out.
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And it was still heavy, still getting those Amazon packages
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in. Lots of postal packages coming
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in from Prime week now, because some people on the Prime
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channels were shipping through the Postal Service or FedEx or
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UPS or everybody else besides Amazon.
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So those started rolling in this week didn't have a single week
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where I was even close to my evaluated average number of
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packages. So I'm hoping that this number
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helps my bell curve, you know? But other than that, it was
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pretty much a normal week. Thursday I got into a discussion
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with a carrier in my office about rural route optimization
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and kept asking questions about it, kept asking questions.
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And I turned around and I told him you need to file the 1767
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and an 8191. So on Friday night, my ADR
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called me for a little bit more information on the grievances
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that I filed. And I informed her that she's
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going to be getting another one over the railroad optimization.
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And she said, and I explained what was happening and she said
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good, he needs to file that. So that's going to be coming to
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management too. But then the weekend came and
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now here we are to do this podcast.
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So how was your week Toasty? It was actually a pretty steady
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week. Amazingly, Monday wasn't too
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heavy and either was Tuesday or Wednesday or the rest of the
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week. Actually got done pretty early
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on Tuesday. So I went ahead and did my
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mapping and after I was finished doing my LTM, found out that it
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looks like they're starting to implement the interim route
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adjustment process. Finally, after a year and a half
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of this program, the next day they actually decided to go
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ahead and start sitting down with carriers going over the
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rule route optimization process. And it basically has me doing
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what I used to do when I first created the route when it was
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all pieced together and everything like that from the
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2018 count, instead of me doing what I'm doing now, which is try
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to unload everything at the CBU's and then do all my
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curbside after that. But it's probably most optimal
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to do honestly. And had a few errors that we
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went ahead and submitted the restrictions on and keep having
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to go back in and put in more restrictions for one of my
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subdivisions. But other than that, not too
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bad. Got some rain down here finally.
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It's not in the hundreds and it's been nice.
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It hasn't been too bad of a week.
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How about you, Bill? Oh, it's just another lazy week
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for me doing paperwork. The convention coming up, I'm
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very busy on research for my acceptance of the nomination
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speech as well as, you know, fine tuning my letter.
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And what gets me about this week was the all the notices I got
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from people in regards to the rule route optimization, losing
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6 miles, losing 15 miles, losing this, losing that.
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And, and the general consensus of everybody was the fact that
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management in implementing this program are telling them to back
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up into driveways to make turns. Now, remember, everybody, if you
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look at your dash, there's there's a, a sticker on there
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that says void backing up when possible.
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So why is management having us back up when we don't have to?
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If you know, if it's possible to continue to route without
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backing up, why are they directing us violate that
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standard in regards of safety? And I understand these people
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are making U turns off of three lane highways, you know, trying
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to do the crossovers, you know, going into opposing traffic,
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this just not making sense. And I hope everybody's filing a
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1767 on the it's because of the fact that we don't need to
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jeopardize our lives then to save another buck.
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And that's what I said, yeah, this is just another money
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grabbed by the post office. And the hell with your safety.
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You're not concerned with that? If they try to implement it in
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our office, they're going to have a fight on their hands that
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they can't win because there's too many of us in there are too
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knowledgeable. And we will take them out in the
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routes and show them. We won't sit on their computer
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and say, oh, this is unsafe. We'll take them out there.
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We will make them go out there. And that's what everybody should
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do. If you want me to commit a
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unsafe act, then let me take you out there and demonstrate it.
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And I don't care if that's, you know, second trip time.
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I don't care if you do it on your own time.
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You need to protect yourself. Remember, you're the most
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important delivery of the day. You need to get home safely and
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you can't do that. Them implementing this rule
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optimization program in the mini route grant.
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Other than that, Kristen. Well, see, last weekend I was at
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the incarceration festival. Had an awesome time.
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My my Ruby made it through the weekend like a champ, let me
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tell ya, 35 weeks pregnant. She even did the haunted house
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exhibit with us. And then we got home Monday and
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it was about 2 1/2 hours after we got home, Ruby was out in the
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back of a canoe doing the blind canoe race that we have.
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That was leading up to the Azabo Canoe Marathon.
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That was last night and 120 mile canoe marathon between Grayling
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and Oscoda along the Azabo River.
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They kicked off at 9:00 PM last night and the 1st place winner
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crossed at about. I don't know.
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It was a little after 11:00 AM this morning, 11/15, 11:30,
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somewhere in there. So, yeah, but so, you know, both
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towns do events like leading up to the big race and everything.
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And so she with a couple of the gals for her, her work, they did
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the blind canoe race. And she's one of the very few
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that actually knows how to paddle and steer a canoe.
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So there she was paddling a canoe blindfolded.
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It was comical. I have video and then Tuesday I
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had Tuesday off just as a day recover from the weekend.
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Went back to work Wednesday and had my route inspection, which
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went fine. No issues there.
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My boss realized how well I do know my route with all the
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construction vehicles we had to go around.
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She's like, I would have not she was I would have drove right
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past that box. I'm like, yeah, I know where my
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boxes are. And then Thursday I worked,
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Friday I worked, did my mapping when I got back and then redid
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my case labels and now I'm off again until Wednesday.
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While I was in Ohio last weekend, I found out that a dear
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friend of mine that I've been friends with since I was 5-6
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years old was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, a very
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aggressive form. And unfortunately she passed
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away Wednesday afternoon. So Saturday.
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So yesterday morning afternoon I should say, I headed down to my
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parents house and there was probably a good sized group of
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about 40 of us that met up at the park and did a memorial walk
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down to her parents house and I walked back.
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I used burned up my last X day and my last annual day that I
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have available to be there for visitation and services Monday
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and Tuesday. So I am at my mom and dad's
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working remotely today, but I'm here so wasn't sure if I was
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going to make it if we were going to be done with the walk
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and everybody getting together. I'm really tired of class
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reunions like this. This is my third one in my class
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I've lost so but on that wasn't too bad.
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I'll get back and work a few days and then Friday we find out
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what day we're going to have this grandbaby and then I got to
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get ready for national. So I'm in all directions right
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now and I know many people have been trying to contact me since
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last week. I've been trying got back to
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some, some I haven't yet. I apologize.
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I like I said, I am just all over the place right now and I'm
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trying to get back to you as guys as I can when I have a
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moment. But yeah, that's how it's all
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been for me lately. I'm sure I speak for everybody
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here when we say we're sorry for your loss.
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Yes. Thank you.
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Yes, it was I tell my my third grade, my third, my second grade
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teacher. She I the last time I saw her, I
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think was at the last funeral I was at.
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But yeah, I got to visit with her.
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I didn't even know she was still around.
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So it was nice to see her from many of my classmates and and
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friends. And we'll all be leaning on each
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other some more the next couple days.
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But yeah, thank you guys. This is Michelle was definitely
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one of those type of people that always had a smile on her face
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no matter what pain she was going through herself.
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She really was a true Angel on earth that got called home and
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we're all dearly gonna miss her. All right guys, let's get into
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this. I know you got some stuff going
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on, James. I'm a little out of sorts, but I
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will put my input in as I can. So 2 weeks ago we did the
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episode on the rural route optimization and all the
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policies and procedures that management has to go through.
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And in the last two weeks we've been hearing all the stories
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from carriers out in the field. With the rural route
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optimization, you've got carriers that are being told to
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make U turns on roads that they shouldn't be making U turns on
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and places they shouldn't be making them.
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You have routing that's sending people through people's
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backyards. You have all kinds of stuff
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going on and you have managers out there that don't care to
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even go out and look at the stuff, let alone you have
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management out there. And I will use one here in
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Michigan as an example and call her out for it.
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Tina in Davisburg who isn't even contacting the carriers about
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the routing, let alone mapping with them.
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And that's a failure on management in that part.
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And management not going out and driving the route is not
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following the proper procedure for the rail route optimization.
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Here's the kicker folks. If it is unsafe to do, no matter
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what management tells you you do not do anything unsafe,
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management will turn around and make it your fault.
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Even if it's management's fault, it'll still be your fault.
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Protect yourself. 1767 PS Form 1767 Hazardous Work Condition
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Doing AU turn on a road that's 55 miles an hour where traffic
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usually does 6570 miles an hour is not safe.
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Doing U turns at a four way stop is not safe.
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Make sure you are taking care of your route and taking care of
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your customers. Have you guys heard anything
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from people getting route optimizations?
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Not in Westchester, no. But the follow up on your
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backing up, James. Yeah, it's funny that it's right
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on your dash. Even funnier is when they've
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come to carriers and say you're doing excessive backing.
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Hold it. OK?
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Excessive backing is over 50 feet and over 5 miles an hour.
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And all you're just adding to this saying, you know, we're
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glad to back up when we tell you, I'm sorry, am I getting a
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mixed message here or what? Don't understand.
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Are we supposed to avoid backing up or only when you tell us to
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back up and you determine that because you're looking at a
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computer screen and you're not on the street, Am I just that
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damn stupid? OK.
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Well, I actually went through the right optimization because
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basically every route in our office -1 was set to do this
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program. So I went ahead and sat down,
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looked at it and it almost had me doing what I did before a few
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minor changes here and there until it got to one of my
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subdivisions that is basically a giant rectangle with connecting
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parallel lines with, you know, separate streets about 5
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different streets. When it got to there, it started
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turning right on one street and these have mailboxes on both
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sides and then turning up at the street, so ignoring the boxes
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that were on the opposite side until later.
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And it just seemed like a confusing mess that didn't
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actually reduce mileage within that that neighborhood.
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It just eliminated EU turns that I do at the stop signs, which is
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OK because it's only 25 miles an hour in there.
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You can see clear as day left to right if any traffic is coming
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at you. So how to sit there?
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Put in as many restrictions as we could, went back the next
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day, looked at it again, it almost was back to the where it
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should have been where, you know, I go around the outside
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and then zigzag in each St. in the middle and two of the
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streets are fine. And then once it got to the
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third street, it started doing the same thing where it went to
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another St. did one side go back up to another street, do the
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other side, do another St. up and down that one was right and
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then finish out it. It was weird.
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So how to set the restrictions again and keep on going through
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the system trying to put in the restrictions?
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Don't U-turn here, don't left turn here, don't right turn
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here. So hopefully when I get back in
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on Monday it'll have the optimal route, which would make sense
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and be easier to case as well. But other than that it doesn't
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have me doing U turns on any major streets.
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There was a problem with every route in the office where it
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wanted us to drive through the fence around the post office to
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get to a street that's next to us instead of going out the main
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gate that we have at a four way stop.
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So management had to sit there and try to go through every
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route just to fix that for every route.
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I don't know why it won't let them restrict that way.
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Like, hey, they have to go out this way.
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It's the four way stop. It's the only gate that's open.
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You know, they're trying to force us to drive through the
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fence. It doesn't.
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It's hard for supervisors to try to fix it when there's no
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distinguishing mark on there because whenever you get in
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there, it'll show you, hey, this is a right turn.
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Hey, this is AU turn. Hey, this is the left turn.
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It didn't have that for leaving the post office.
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So somehow they're able to restrict it.
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Everyone's been, you know, going out the right gate now.
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So other than that, it's a. It's a process.
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I'll give you $1000 to drive through the fence.
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And when they write you up, you say, look, I'm just following
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the line of travel. You know, this, this is your
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system. I'm just obeying the the, you
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know, the laid out here, folks. Yeah.
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I'm only a direct order. You know I'll.
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Agree that later. Yeah, I mean, you know, if I'm
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very off the line of travel, I have to get prior approval.
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And, you know, I, I just drove through the fence.
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What the hell? It's a shortcut.
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Dumb answers I did have. 1. I did have one listener that
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reached out to me that went through the optimization and
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basically all it did to their route was take stuff that was
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normally at the end of the route and put it at the beginning,
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vice versa and only shaved off 3/10 of a mile.
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Oh, the savings on that. That'll save the post office
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$1,000,000. Yeah, that was worth the effort,
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wasn't it? What if you had?
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All exactly. At that point, you might as well
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just reject. It well.
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Yeah, none of that came through when I did my mapping.
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I haven't heard anything about my office for optimization, so I
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don't really see how they would optimize my route at all, but
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we'll see. They'll find a way.
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Oh, I'm sure they would. I wish them luck on mine.
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Yeah, me too. I would have to include a bunch
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more left turns. Kristen, I know you weren't here
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last week, but I don't know if you paid attention.
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Our office since we got moved to the Wayne facility, the SD and
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C, we are no longer going to cut or adjust the three overburdened
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routes. We're just going to add 44 extra
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miles on there and and let them do it for free, including my
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route. Oh wow, wasn't that nice.
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No, they got to pay for that extended route.
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They they can pay crazy. But I'm already overburdened so
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there's nothing left to pay. Exactly.
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Yeah, I know it. It's ridiculous.
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Yeah, and like I said, for us to get to our routes from Wayne the
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Westchester, we've got to go down a three to four lane major
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highway where the average speed is 65 to 75 miles an hour.
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And I want to see what dumbasses are going to work the day it
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snows and they put chains on an LLV.
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Get out on that highway. Yeah, that would be
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entertaining, wouldn't it? Yeah, let alone the carrier who
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now moved out to Lancaster, PA, and now has an hour and a half
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drive to the new facility. Not going to happen on Snowflake
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they're calling out. Yeah, it's just.
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They they have no comments on whatsoever.
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Do you expect management to have common sense?
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No, it's federal government that makes sense.
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They do the opposite. We know that well.
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Like Independence Day, you know when they ask how do you hide
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area 51 and and the father says you don't actually think they
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paid $30,000 for a toilet, $20,000 for a hammer, do you?
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That's how you hide it. It's amazing that you know, in
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this day and age. I could so I could so make a
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remark about former, but I won't.
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I'll be nice. This is a family show, OK?
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So the next thing that I've got on the list is your edit books.
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So you have the paper edit books that you're supposed to do all
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the changes for. But there was a video, an
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informational video on the scanner that luckily I had wait
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time to sit there and watch the video in the morning.
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And there was one on a digital edit book.
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Some offices have it, some don't.
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You could actually go in there and mark houses vacant or
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occupied on your scanner now. And the other flip side to that,
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and this has actually happened to me, if you get a change of
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address, one of those parse labels, somebody submits a
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change of address, the computer system is now marking the house
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vacant immediately. It doesn't matter if it's an
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individual forward or a family forward or a business forward,
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It's marking the address as vacant.
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I had three addresses on my mapping this month that were
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marked vacant, that had just had forwards put in, but people
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moved in right as the people left.
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They aren't vacant, but the computer system said they work
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as a forward was put in. You have to be monitoring your
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mapping. You have to be monitoring your
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edit book and you have to keep an eye on your addresses because
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this system is now automatically marking them vacant with a
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forward and our rule is 90 days. Yep.
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Yeah, yeah. It's just goes, yeah, on my side
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of all of this. I have, yeah.
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And I have someone, you know, mine is, I'm getting close to
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that 90 days. Oh, somebody new just moved in.
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Oh yeah, it's I, I. And they sell their house or
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they don't sell their house, they keep the house and they're
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going to rent it out. And they're just waiting for
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renters to come in. But you know, they for their
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mail to go live wherever they're living now.
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And then, you know, wait for that person to move in that's
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renting or, you know, wait for a renter.
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Again, we, we need somebody programming that actually
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understands the PO6O3 or his Reddit because we even have when
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you're mapping, when you're putting your park points in your
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walking distance that it brings up the threshold, you know,
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warning of, oh, this is further than 500 feet.
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We're allowed to deliver up to a half a mile away from the box.
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That's not 500 feet, that's over 2000 feet.
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Well, just for your information, James, with the forwards, the
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United States Postal Service incorporates an AI system for
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specifically for the forwards. OK, Unfortunately, their AI
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stands for assholes and idiots because those are the dumb
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bastards that are instituting this system.
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They're affecting our routes, our paychecks, our health, our
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safety, everything. I mean, yeah, you're losing
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boxes, you're losing volume. What else would you want to do
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to squeeze blood out of a rock? Yeah, you know we went see this
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is this goes right back to our conversation on the road route
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optimization. Not only do you have taking 66%
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of of carrier's money in the first mini mail survey, then the
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carrier started getting their money back.
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Now, even though our union representatives posted in the
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Q&A that management will not be able to edit our scans, quote,
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UN quote at this time, they're now allowing them to do that and
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take more money off of out of the carrier's wallets.
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You have the rural route optimization taking miles off
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the route, which is taking money out of the carrier's wallets.
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Now you have the computer system marking them vacant, which
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according to my Dr. and district manager when they went through
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my disputes that they returned to me that if a house is marked
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vacant that it does not give you the credit for that month.
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So even if you do, if you unless you fix it in the mapping before
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the end of the month, you're not going to get credit for the
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house for that month. And so your active addresses
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will be a decimal place in the mini mail survey and you'll lose
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money that way. That is why you stress mapping,
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mapping mapping every month. It doesn't matter how much you
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have to get home, how much you have to do stuff and so on and
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so forth. This is your money that they are
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taking out of your wallet. If you don't do your mapping, if
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you don't do your LTMS, if you don't protect yourself, don't
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worry about your home because you're not going to be able to
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afford it anyway. Yeah.
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I mean, it's one thing if you have vacancy or like with
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Kristen, she has the, the, the snowbirds that are up there.
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What if you have like customers where I have to go away for two
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months at a time, they're going to be vacant every time I turn
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around? Well, hold on.
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You know, you can't make this shit up.
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And like you said, James, it is a test program.
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In regards to editing the scans, don't you think that that's
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going to be in the next contract or it'll be an MOU, you know,
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understanding that we are going to be edited by management if we
27:42
break certain thresholds, we pass benchmarks at the post
27:47
office as predetermined, yeah. Because you're evaluating, yeah.
27:55
And, you know, the only thing that I could see were the edit
27:58
program for editing scans would be valuable and work the way it
28:07
probably should be intended to work.
28:10
And we all know management won't do it that way.
28:13
Is it the carrier themselves accidentally hit something and
28:18
comes up and says, hey, I accidentally hit this.
28:21
Can we go ahead and edit this out, please?
28:24
Or you know, I failed to put in my walking sequence and can we
28:30
add this in, you know, something of that nature where it's the
28:34
carrier going to say, hey, we need to edit this.
28:38
Not management, just going in and editing Willy nilly, which
28:41
we know that they will do. Yeah, and.
28:46
Are you always picking on Willy and Nilly?
28:47
Huh. They're not the only two.
28:51
There's a little. That's just being nice.
28:54
Hey, that. Hey, I'm just being nice, yes.
28:57
I know. No matter how you try to slice
29:01
it, if anybody has the ability to edit inputs that have been
29:08
put into the system, somebody is going to abuse it.
29:14
And that somebody is all almost always management.
29:19
So even if it wasn't management that had the ability, but the
29:23
carrier did, guess what? That management can print out
29:27
your barcode for your ID, scan it, go in under your name, and
29:33
edit the scans that way if they wanted to.
29:36
So even if carriers had the ability just to just the
29:39
carriers had the ability to do it, management would have a way
29:43
to edit those scans. I don't think editing scans at
29:46
all should be on the table with anybody in this instance.
29:51
I don't care if I don't care if carriers are putting in 1720 box
29:56
holders when they only had one or if carriers put in 15 stamp
30:00
stock sales when they sold 15 stamps to one person.
30:04
Nobody should be able to go in and edit those out.
30:08
If there is a problem like that, management needs to do the
30:11
proper investigation into it and if warranted, do the proper
30:17
disciplinary procedure according to the contract.
30:20
Because unfortunately it was management's responsibility to
30:24
train us. And if management didn't
30:26
properly train us, that's a failure on management and that
30:30
evaluation should go up by those extra scans that that carrier
30:32
put in. Amen.
30:35
And you're right. It it, it's just like the, the
30:38
evaluated system. It's the same way you know, when
30:41
you, you have your drop day coming up, if there's a way of
30:44
taking advantage of the system, people will find it.
30:47
Not just rural carriers, but city carriers, clerk custodians,
30:52
everybody always looks for a way to beat the system.
30:55
And if there's a way to manipulate the system and save
30:57
the post office money, trust me, management will utilize it.
31:03
And if they won't, if they don't utilize it, they'll be directed
31:07
from those above to do it. I just said this in the chat
31:13
because one of our listeners said carrier should be able to
31:16
edit the scans themselves on the scanners.
31:17
They said it should only be on the original scanner for the
31:20
carrier if they're going to do that.
31:22
So if your scanner dies and you have to use a different scanner
31:25
or your scanner breaks, you have to use a different scanner.
31:27
You can't edit the scans that you put in on that original
31:30
scanner and PIN numbers for it. Like somebody said in the
31:36
comments, somebody could have access to those numbers and
31:40
cheat. There are management people out
31:42
there that will get those PIN numbers from somebody even if
31:45
it's the carrier themselves to do the edit themselves.
31:49
Instead you have to always think what is a way management will
31:56
use this against carriers? How will management turn around
32:03
and usurp the system? Just like them doing napping
32:09
with the craft. Well, we've, we've seen it in,
32:12
in payroll where they've gone in and edit 4240 sheets.
32:16
We've we've seen it where they, they do the, the green cards on
32:19
the Subs, they're helping out saying, oh, there's too many
32:22
hours on the route that you helped out.
32:24
I have to cut, cut an hour and a half or two hours off of your
32:26
time. Bullshit.
32:28
I worked it. I'm entitled to it.
32:30
I mean, you know, if there's a way to save up a dime, I'll find
32:36
it. And they will manipulate the
32:39
system to their advantage. That's.
32:42
Why we have the wreck system? This is why we have the rule
32:45
route Optimization program. This is why we're having this
32:48
test program with the scanners in regards to editing scans.
32:53
You think it's going to stop just on those seven or eight
32:55
scans they have listed? No, they're going to put down
33:00
every damn scan in there. Be in there manipulating your
33:03
load times. Hour input time, 22 minute load
33:09
time. I've heard an, I've heard an A
33:11
poom out there that is telling carriers they have 15 minutes to
33:16
load anything over 15 minutes, they're getting discipline.
33:22
Well, unfortunately, now that you've threatened discipline,
33:24
that's harassment in the office. That is a hostile work
33:28
environment. Thirdly, that is not following
33:31
due process in the disciplinary procedures in our contract.
33:35
And on top of that, it takes what it takes to load a truck.
33:39
I can tell you my truck is the very first one in the row of
33:42
trucks in my office and it takes me 20 minutes to load my truck,
33:48
not to mention the carrier all the way down at the end. 12
33:50
trucks down has to walk all the way down there with their
33:54
parcels going over bumpy terrain, trying not to knock
33:57
them off the top of their stack of of packages and stuff like
34:00
that. But they're going to be 30
34:03
minutes just walking down there, pushing the cart down and back
34:08
with loading. So these people, I mean, I
34:14
shouldn't even call them people the way they treat us.
34:16
These animals at the top are looking at spreadsheets and bell
34:21
curves and not actually looking at the human factor.
34:26
And that is the problem. Everybody above us from above,
34:31
the carriers, 2O4BS included, aren't looking at the human
34:36
factor. There is no humanity in
34:41
management anymore. Yeah, I've been saying that for
34:46
a while. They've completely removed the
34:49
humanity out of working at all. And that's why we need a
34:55
stronger union to start making them realize you need to treat
34:59
us better or we're going to start making you all pay.
35:01
We're going to start making these grievances come out with a
35:04
pay. And you're not going to like
35:06
that because now it's going to be attached to your file and
35:09
your files going to show, hey, you know, your station had to
35:12
pay out of over $1,000,000 grievances between city clerks
35:16
and rule. Oh, yeah, you're not going to
35:18
get that promotion because it's probably just going to cost us
35:21
more of you or over a couple of different offices.
35:25
We need to start fighting back. We need to have a fighting
35:28
union, not one that just praises everything that the post office
35:33
does. Oh, are are you saying that we
35:38
shouldn't agree with Lewis in regards to his, you know,
35:43
delivering for America plan or that you know, it it the SD and
35:47
CS are, you know, monumental failure, Not you're not creating
35:54
dissension here, are you toasty? Come on now.
35:57
We're we're all in this together, all the all in this
36:01
together. Constructive criticism.
36:03
Constructive criticism. Sounded like whining to me.
36:09
Well, that's. Just.
36:11
Continuing on with the management stuff, I have passed
36:15
on to the concerned parties in the area, but I have actually
36:21
heard of several offices and I've contacted all the DRS in
36:25
those regions on this, that they're still shutting off the
36:30
AC to force carriers out, including not only in the AM to
36:35
force them out to the street in the AM, but they're actually
36:38
shutting them off about 30 minutes before carriers return
36:42
to the office. So that e-mail from Buffalo
36:49
several years ago, three years ago, occurring today, is still
36:55
happening today. And it is affecting not only
36:57
rural but city clerks, janitors, all the unions across the board,
37:05
because these people have to work in these offices during
37:09
those conditions that they're trying to force these carriers
37:13
out the door. The clerks have to be in there
37:16
sorting the mail and the packages for the carriers.
37:21
The janitors are starting their days of cleaning and getting
37:24
stuff organized and set up the way that they're supposed to be
37:27
doing maintenance Staffs and they're changing light bulbs and
37:30
things like that, especially those guys up on ladders because
37:33
heat rises. It is an unsafe environment for
37:37
everybody that is on that work room floor when the AC and the
37:41
fans are off. And I've heard of offices that
37:44
choose not to fix the AC in the work room floor area just for
37:48
that very reason. Maybe it could be in an office
37:52
like mine, which is the complete opposite and it's like a meat
37:55
locker in there. I'd work there.
37:59
I'm not. Complaining one bit, let me tell
38:01
you. But yeah, it's the point.
38:03
You're you're waiting around for clerk's toss packages and you're
38:06
getting cold. You're like, I guess I'll go
38:08
outside and warm up. Osha's already investigating
38:12
them for carrier and supervisor deaths out in the LL VS right
38:17
now. So everybody, if they are
38:20
shutting off the AC and the fans in your office contact OSHA.
38:27
That is a safety hazard. 803 two one OSHA and I will tell you
38:36
this, there are some offices where it is not the local
38:39
management but district management that has control over
38:44
the thermostats somehow. Yeah, I've heard that too.
38:51
Yeah, you could draw it remotely with a computer or a cell phone,
38:56
just like your house. Yeah.
38:58
You can also submit it online to OSHA and they will actually get
39:05
back with you. OSHA actually does respond
39:08
rather quickly to OSHA complaints.
39:12
One of the few government agencies that does really
39:14
quickly. I will tell you that much.
39:20
And hopefully with maybe enough, they will finally come down on
39:28
them with more than just a six figure slap on the wrist.
39:34
Maybe they'll finally start investigating who's actually
39:38
causing this and maybe 'cause actual change to happen.
39:43
We can hope. Probably won't, but we can hope.
39:47
If not, you should still also be filing a 1767 Unsafe Work
39:51
environment and an 8191 grievance because you need to
39:57
take care of yourself, your fellow carriers, your brothers
40:02
and sisters of other crafts. Stand up to tyranny.
40:09
Stand up to violations of health and safety.
40:12
Stand up to violations of our contract and working rules.
40:18
It's time to stand up all together.
40:24
And pause. I need to take a breath.
40:29
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I need to take a breath because I'm
40:33
getting upset because I do not like seeing our carriers or our
40:37
brothers and sisters and other crash treated this way.
40:40
It really gets under my skin that right now the only thing I
40:44
can do is talk about it on a podcast and hopefully I can
40:48
engage enough people to stand up to actually incite change within
40:53
the Postal Service. By the craft doing what the
40:56
craft is supposed to be doing, which is protecting our own and
41:01
getting results. Not slaps on the wrist.
41:05
Not settling for language. Actual results that make our
41:09
working conditions actually livable.
41:13
Oh, you know, in in honor of being Sunday, I have to bring up
41:17
the fact that I'm seeing more and more posts where carriers
41:22
are working Amazon Sundays and they're being brought in at
41:25
10:00 AM and having a fit. They are livid.
41:29
Started my area a while ago and now it seems to be almost a
41:33
nationwide occurrence. Coming in at 10:00 AM to run
41:36
Amazon. Who the hell do we work for?
41:39
The post office or Amazon? So is the post office standing
41:43
up for, you know, for the carriers?
41:46
It's not even just Amazon, it's also the clerks that are getting
41:49
affected by it too. You know they have to come in
41:51
later. I remember when we start when we
41:56
were working Amazon Sundays in my office when I hate using this
42:00
term, but when I was a sub, you know, we would come in at 8:00
42:06
and the Amazon would have been there by 6:30 at the in the
42:10
morning and the clerks would have everything pretty much
42:13
sorted except maybe the last half a pallet by the time we got
42:18
there. And the interesting thing with
42:22
the 10 AM start for me is that these carriers are doing 789
42:28
hours and they're starting, they're leaving out of the
42:31
office at 11:00 in the morning, noon when it's the hottest time
42:35
of the day. Noon to 3:00 PM is the hottest
42:37
time of the day. And they're just starting their
42:40
routes, you know, So it's stupid.
42:47
It's just, it's, it just befuddles the mind that, you
42:53
know, you sit there and say, hold it.
42:55
We have the equipment, we have the personnel, we have the
42:58
resources. We're being dictated by Amazon
43:02
to do this. I, I'm sorry, I, I just, I don't
43:07
understand that. Like I said, it went back years
43:09
ago when Margaret was our postmaster general and I brought
43:12
up the fact that we were giving away money to Amazon and setting
43:16
them up to succeed. Because, you know, once they get
43:21
found that there was a market, there's a, a market share out
43:24
there for them to capitalize on and manipulate.
43:29
Wow, Amazon just blew our doors off, didn't it?
43:33
And for five years without a mail count, he handled Amazon or
43:38
Amazon. And as they build up their
43:40
resources, distribution centers and contractors, they, you know,
43:44
they kind of, you know, weaned us off of it and still can't do
43:47
it without us. So why are we letting them
43:52
dictate the terms? This your deliver for America.
44:01
Program. Louis.
44:02
Well, like Monday, I had heard. From one of the carriers of my
44:05
office on Monday, they got like 14, yeah, like 14 skids of
44:12
Amazon for the my thick throat and an ox office, you know?
44:21
And well we got a highway contract route too, so 8 routes
44:25
for rural side and three sitting.
44:27
And you know we had roughly about 14 skids of Amazon that
44:33
came in on Monday. And our pool made a directive to
44:38
management to hold back three AP CS from the post office of
44:44
parcels so all the Amazon would go out.
44:48
Is that considered failure to delivering mail?
44:53
Mm hmm yeah I hold hold back three AP CS of post office
44:58
packages so all of the Amazon could go out.
45:02
You brought up an interesting point because you have way
45:05
contractors now. Do they come in on Sunday and
45:08
deliver? No, we don't have Sunday
45:10
delivery in my office. OK, if anybody does, let me know
45:14
if you have a highway contractor routes in your office and Amazon
45:20
Sunday comes in because in our office the rural carriers take
45:23
out the highway contractors and I know the highway contractor,
45:28
you know personally and she said, well, not paid for
45:32
Sundays. I said, well, why didn't you put
45:33
it in for the bin? She goes, we tried, but they
45:35
won't let us know. The post office is encumbering
45:39
themselves with more expense by delivering packages for routes
45:44
that are not rural or city routes.
45:47
So it's just an added expense to me that that's just common sense
45:51
that you're a highway contractor.
45:53
Either you come in on Sunday or you lose your your contract.
45:57
Yeah, our one highway contractor has he's been on that route for
46:01
over 40 years. And yeah, his Amazon's just
46:05
ridiculous for the size of his route.
46:10
He more, more, more times than not actually has someone to come
46:13
in and split the route with him every day.
46:18
Well, that that's just the decision to do that.
46:21
Yeah, that absolutely is. And you know, he pays them and
46:24
supplies them a vehicle too. But at the same time, yeah, the,
46:29
it's as far as I know, my old office, we didn't have highway
46:33
contracts, so I couldn't say when it came to to how Amazon
46:38
Sundays are done for Hwy. contract routes.
46:41
But yeah, we don't have the Sunday in my office right now,
46:45
so thank goodness. Not that it matters to me
46:48
anymore, but it's still, it just makes Monday suck even more.
46:52
But we manage it. Well, yeah.
46:58
And this, this is exasperated by us at Westchester office being
47:01
moved to this SD and C in Wayne, because the past two Sundays
47:07
they've actually asked for volunteers from the regulars
47:11
full craft to help on parcel deliveries.
47:14
And you know what they're actually doing?
47:17
We're getting the regular to take the rule routes out and
47:19
they're getting the, the RC as to take out city routes.
47:23
Of course, I, I hope nobody mentioned to him about filing a
47:29
grievance about that, that I would.
47:31
But you know, I hope somebody didn't do that.
47:38
Somebody just said out loud, well, if it was me.
47:46
But somebody who's not in the office right now to do that?
47:51
I'm sure that'll get edited out. Hope not leave it in there all
47:58
right? Just because I'm not in the
47:59
office doesn't mean I can't be of use.
48:03
Exactly. And it doesn't mean we aren't
48:06
here to help the craft as much as we can, even when we're not
48:09
in the office. So the last topic that I have is
48:17
a big one that can actually be beneficial to us, and that is
48:24
the top agents of the United States Postal Service.
48:28
The Board of Governors has just had two people nominated for the
48:33
Board of Governors, Val Demings and William Zoller by Joe Biden.
48:37
President Biden nominated them to fill vacancies on the Board
48:41
of Governors. And it is only when we have a
48:44
full Board of Governors that we have the ability to elect,
48:47
oversee, or remove the Postmaster General.
48:51
We have to have a full board to be able to elect or remove the
48:55
Postmaster General. So this is the first step in a
48:58
possibility of removing Louis de Joy from Postmaster General
49:03
position if the Board of Governors so chooses.
49:06
So with the push going on right now and all the senators calling
49:11
for his removal, this is the first step in that direction.
49:17
But it's also possible that they may just turn around and push it
49:21
off to the next election where the person who appointed him
49:25
Postmaster General is running for re election to the office.
49:32
What are your guys's thoughts? Do you think that we have a
49:35
chance that the Board of Governors may actually take
49:38
action that will protect the carriers?
49:40
Or do you think it'll be more of the same?
49:42
Kick the can down the road not to get into too much politics.
49:47
After his last two sessions before the House and the Senate,
49:55
a lot of them are angry because, I mean, I mean, my
49:59
representatives, one of the House Oversight Committee men,
50:02
And he said that, you know, and during his interview with Dejoy
50:08
that he didn't realize that a good half of his job would be
50:13
taking complaints about the post office or from postal employees.
50:18
He's like, he thought he was going to be helping more
50:20
veterans and writing bills and everything like that.
50:22
And he's handling a lot of stuff when it comes to the post
50:24
office. So a lot of these
50:27
representatives, a lot of these senators, you know, they're
50:30
upset. And especially with Georgia,
50:32
with the failure in Arizona, with the SNDCS, you know,
50:36
there's, there's all of these people that are upset calling
50:40
their representatives, calling their senators who are then tied
50:44
up with that instead of, you know, campaigning or doing other
50:46
stuff. They're trying to get these
50:47
things resolved for their constituents so they can get the
50:50
votes and they're having to spend time on that.
50:53
So now they're kind of upset that everything's going awry and
50:57
that there's, you know, all his money being dumped into these
51:00
SMDC's and they're failing. They're failing at scams.
51:05
They're failing at getting the mail through.
51:07
It's taking, you know, what usually used to take three days
51:11
is taking weeks now. I mean, James, you experienced
51:14
that with your Express, but you know, you know that I think
51:19
there's going to be a push. I don't know how you know, what
51:25
the political climate that we're in right now if they're going to
51:27
do it before or after the election, considering that we do
51:31
handle mail in ballots as well. So it's unfortunately possibly
51:37
going to come down to a game of politics, which unfortunately we
51:41
get stuck in the middle of all that junk.
51:44
And I don't know, we'll, we'll see how it plays out, but I'm
51:50
going to err on the side of it's going to be a kick the can down
51:53
the road. Yeah, that's my gut.
51:58
Feeling, yeah, I agree. I think it's going to be a kick
52:01
the can. Yeah, it's easier to go with the
52:03
flow than it is a change direction.
52:05
Just like our union, you know, it's easier to go with the flow
52:08
than, you know, take a chance on a new direction.
52:12
So, I mean, you know, apathy is the the greatest evil of our
52:17
time. You know, as far as the union's
52:19
concerned, as far as politics and and voters are concerned.
52:23
I mean, really people are are sick and tired of all the
52:27
commercials, the literature and everything else and it's
52:29
carriers. We're tired of all the damn
52:32
Flyers and political Flyers that we have to deliver that we may
52:36
or may not be getting credit for.
52:38
But the fact of the matter is that these people don't run on
52:43
basis of what they have accomplished.
52:46
They run on, you know, the fear factor of what the other guy
52:49
will do versus what I have done or in many cases what I haven't
52:54
done. I mean, I, I remember an
52:57
interview where a certain vice president was interviewed about
53:01
being at the border and turned around and answered the question
53:05
four different ways before saying, well, I haven't been to
53:08
Europe either. What the, what the Hell's that
53:12
got to do with going to the border?
53:15
I mean, you know, it's, it's just ludicrous in regards to how
53:19
politicians carry themselves, how they behave towards each
53:23
other. Said run on your own strengths,
53:26
not on your your opponent's weaknesses.
53:29
Exactly. Have nothing to offer to you
53:34
know at at the table. Step away from the table.
53:39
You know, it's, it's funny to me that we have all these issues
53:46
going on across the country with the Postal Service.
53:50
We have all these senators that are sitting there and getting
53:53
these phone calls, getting carriers, clerks, mail handlers
53:59
and all these people calling them saying help me, help me,
54:03
help me. And it's up to the Board of
54:07
Governors to be able to actually make the changes at the top that
54:12
need to happen. It's up to the Board of
54:13
Governors to put the ruling down on management.
54:19
They don't not only have the Postmaster General authority,
54:23
they could actually as a Board of Governors, fire other
54:28
managers too, because they are technically the ones in charge
54:33
of the Postal Service above the Postmaster General.
54:37
And the fact that we are sitting here every week talking about
54:43
the failures of the Postal Service to help our carriers,
54:47
the failure of them to do that. But you have so many people out
54:53
there who aren't paying attention to what's happening
54:56
now. They are so stuck on what
54:59
happened in the past. They haven't seen where the
55:02
future is going. They're so stuck in this was the
55:06
way it was. This happened back then.
55:08
So I'm going to use that as my stomping ground point as to why
55:11
I'm not going to vote this way, as to why I'm not going to do
55:14
this. Instead of actually seeing how
55:18
things have changed, how opinions have changed, how ways
55:22
things work have changed. You have people in our current
55:27
national office that haven't touched a route in 30 years, and
55:34
yet they're trying to tell us that it's OK that management's
55:40
doing this because it's just a test, It's not going to affect
55:43
your evaluation. Yet they are so out of touch
55:52
with the carriers on the ground because they don't want to
55:58
listen to the carriers on the ground, that even the carriers
56:05
on the ground pulling their dues won't get their attention.
56:11
Let me ask you a question, James at all everybody.
56:15
If you're the the head of a corporation like the post
56:18
office, any corporation and you're sitting around with your
56:23
management team and you're looking for ways to cut cost.
56:27
One of the ways you would do that is you would run a test
56:30
program or a pilot program, see if you could create more
56:34
efficiency to cut down on expenses or whether or not, you
56:39
know, that program itself would, you know, illustrate areas of
56:43
Ave. of, of, of income that could be, you know, mitigated
56:49
through introducing these tests and say, oh, you know, if we do
56:55
this, we might be able to increase by 1.2 percent, 1.8%.
57:01
The reason they do these tests is because they already know
57:04
beforehand that if they can get this pushed through, shove down
57:10
their throats, that they will be able to save money.
57:14
That's all this rule route optimization programs about.
57:17
Like I said, it's about saving buck on our backs.
57:24
Don't believe for one second the post office hasn't examined
57:27
this. They had some some engineer like
57:29
Doctor Miracle turn around and say where can we save more
57:32
money? And this guy came up with this
57:34
program as a pilot or a test program and said, let's see what
57:40
we can do here and how much it would optimize and save us, you
57:45
know, X amount of dollars over the course of time.
57:48
Bill, do you want the Walmart answer or do you want the
57:51
logical answer? Oh give me to Walmart 1st.
57:55
OK, you replace all the low level employees with computers,
58:01
self checkout. You replace them with robots
58:04
that stock shelves. You replace the low level
58:07
minimum wage employees with that.
58:09
The lowest paid employees, you replace them with that and
58:11
you'll save millions and millions and millions of
58:13
dollars. Now on the other hand, if you go
58:16
the logical route like UPS did after they signed the contract
58:20
with their the Teamsters and they found out how are we going
58:26
to save the money that we're now spending with this new contract.
58:30
They decided to turn around and cut middle management.
58:37
Now if the postal. Service.
58:39
If the Postal Service turned around and cut out 10,000 middle
58:44
management jobs with their 15% raise increases that they just
58:50
got not too long ago and another 5% coming in the next year, they
58:56
could save more than what they're saving with the Rural
58:59
Route Optimization program. 10,000 managers is all it would
59:06
take to save the amount of money they're taking from rural
59:09
carriers with the Rural Route Optimization program.
59:16
Let's see 10,000 * 178. So they they'd only save $117
59:26
million. They got rid of 10,000 managers.
59:30
Yes. And the rural route
59:31
optimization, rural route optimization program, I've
59:35
estimated would save about $84 million.
59:41
Let's fire management. Instead, let's hire more
59:45
management and give them raises. What was it, 16% what I seen
59:51
rolling around? 1515 and then another 5 coming.
59:59
Or what end value contributions? I.
1:00:04
Don't. Meanwhile, the ones of us
1:00:05
actually doing the hard work are the ones that are suffering.
1:00:09
And don't forget, if management runs a route, they actually get
1:00:12
paid for the route they run on an hourly basis on top of their
1:00:17
salary as management. Yep.
1:00:22
So that's that's the most idiotic thing coming down from
1:00:29
management is let's hire more managers.
1:00:32
We can't afford we can't afford to pay our carriers, but let's
1:00:35
hire more managers. Yeah, 'cause that'll get the
1:00:39
meal delivered. So that's all I had for today.
1:00:43
Anybody have anything else? I'm good.
1:00:52
Do we want to talk about the interim route adjustments?
1:00:58
The interim. You just, you just want to zip
1:01:01
James off, don't you? So.
1:01:05
Just this is just my experience with it because this is still
1:01:08
pretty new. So when I did my mapping this
1:01:11
week on Tuesday after doing the DPM, you have to wait for the
1:01:17
LTM, you know. So I went and did my markups,
1:01:20
did everything like that, went back, LTM was ready to go.
1:01:24
After the LTM is finished, once you're done, you know, checking
1:01:28
everything, make sure your stop signs are there, traffic lights,
1:01:31
railroad crossings, everything at the end of it, right before
1:01:35
you get to the print out page that has your mileage, your you
1:01:39
know, everything that's on page one of your 4241 and basically
1:01:43
and your 4003 year line of travel with the right hand left
1:01:47
turn, everything like that. It'll actually show you like we
1:01:52
used to see on the 4003 with your bank time and it'll show
1:01:56
you on the left side last evaluation and it shows you the
1:02:00
date. Mine was from April from the
1:02:02
mini mail survey. And then coming to, you know,
1:02:06
last week, this past week, whenever I updated my mapping,
1:02:10
it's all that I had the extra 3 dismounts that I've had for, you
1:02:13
know, a month or two now and the extra boxes, the extra dismount
1:02:18
distance, everything like that. And it's showing me going from
1:02:20
58 hours and 21 minutes to 61 hours and 10 minutes.
1:02:25
So it's coming. I'm not sure if it's launched
1:02:29
fully yet, but in our office. Here it hasn't.
1:02:33
OK. Yeah.
1:02:33
In our office, we were able to see after you do your LTM, it'll
1:02:37
actually run it through the numbers, basically just anything
1:02:42
that's on page one of your 4241 AM.
1:02:45
So just everything that's calculated for your route, it
1:02:47
won't do anything. It doesn't look like it does
1:02:50
anything, at least for, you know, if you had an increase in
1:02:53
packages, increase in mail volume, anything that's from
1:02:57
pages two and three, your load times, your end of shift duties.
1:03:02
But it will calculate at least the base information from your
1:03:06
route. That's interesting.
1:03:08
Yeah. I was looking to see if there
1:03:11
was anything like that yet in my office when I did my mapping on
1:03:15
Friday, but there wasn't so I know it's not across the board
1:03:18
yet. OK.
1:03:20
Well, hopefully it's coming and now that it's been a year and a
1:03:23
half and we're into our almost fourth mini mail survey.
1:03:28
So hopefully we can get it there.
1:03:30
Hopefully this works out. It it to me it looks pretty
1:03:33
accurate from the numbers that I put into.
1:03:37
Basically what I did is copied and pasted all the numbers from
1:03:40
the 4241 M and just adjusted as I went through.
1:03:45
That's how I've been able to estimate my evaluations usually,
1:03:49
and it looks like it's just everything that's on that first
1:03:51
page, so. Yeah, it So the LTM takes your
1:03:58
last mini mail survey and only changes the mileage, the box
1:04:04
count, etcetera in that section. The sections that only the LTM
1:04:10
deals with, the BDPM and LTM deal with.
1:04:13
That's it. It does not change your mail
1:04:15
volume, does not change your walking distances or it does
1:04:19
change your walking distance. My bad.
1:04:21
For authorized dismounts. Only for dismounts and also it
1:04:26
also will change it if you gain or lose.
1:04:31
Lose blue boxes as well, those will also be changed.
1:04:34
So anything done in your DPM and LTM are the only things that
1:04:38
change in the interim adjustment.
1:04:41
Everything else comes from the mini mail survey evaluation that
1:04:45
you had. It does not have the ability to
1:04:48
change anything else at this point.
1:04:51
However, again, with management, you know, at some point they're
1:04:57
thinking maybe we can do interim adjustments that involve all the
1:05:01
other pieces except for the mini mail survey numbers.
1:05:05
You know, they're thinking about it.
1:05:09
Hopefully that doesn't happen because then that would
1:05:12
basically make us pretty much hourly carriers.
1:05:16
Yeah. And I have seen chatter of
1:05:19
management telling carriers that eventually, you know, their
1:05:23
evaluations could change every pay period with this program,
1:05:28
which I remember when Rex was first talked about coming out,
1:05:31
that's how it sounded like it. But it possibly could be prior
1:05:36
to anything. But I really hope that's not the
1:05:39
case. Then that.
1:05:43
Would be. That's almost a step closer into
1:05:47
being hourly. Step closer to being city, which
1:05:50
is what management wants us to be, is just like city. 8 hour
1:05:54
days and they can give us pivots overtime and all that stuff
1:05:58
because they want to treat city carriers and rural carriers the
1:06:01
same. Because that means less training
1:06:04
for management to have to take means less things management has
1:06:08
to know. Isn't that ironic that several
1:06:11
years ago they did a pilot program and with the city
1:06:14
carriers to see if they wanted to go to an evaluated system and
1:06:19
the city carriers blew it out of the water because they, they
1:06:23
want to get paid for, you know, for every hour they work versus
1:06:26
US. We, oh, no, we don't want no
1:06:28
pivots. We don't want you forcing us to
1:06:31
volunteer or anything. No, we like our evaluated
1:06:34
system. That's what makes us the, you
1:06:36
know, the most cost efficient body of workers in the Postal
1:06:41
Service. And the biggest benefit was
1:06:44
being able to get off of work before your evaluation ended.
1:06:49
Yeah, remember when? They don't understand that.
1:06:53
I remember when I was on the fire department and I would go
1:06:56
run calls after I was done working at the post office.
1:06:59
So I was still being paid by the post office for the hours of my
1:07:03
evaluation while running calls for the fire department because
1:07:07
I was under my evaluation. It's all right.
1:07:10
We had ADR working at a Firehouse as as the captain
1:07:15
while being the Dr. full time. And yeah, oh, sorry, he got
1:07:19
removed. That was a funny way you weren't
1:07:22
allowed to do why you couldn't call this guy before 10:00 AM
1:07:25
because he wasn't up yet from working the night shift at the
1:07:30
Firehouse. Are you kidding me?
1:07:34
And the thing of it is, it was common knowledge.
1:07:37
All right, guys, time to wind this down.
1:07:40
Yep, sure. Hey.
1:07:43
All right, everyone, just we're about a month away from the next
1:07:48
mini mail survey. Make sure that you get your
1:07:51
mapping done. Check your edit books.
1:07:53
Make sure everything go through your entire mapping and with
1:07:57
your edit book to make sure everything's open.
1:07:59
That needs to be open. Anything that's closed needs to
1:08:01
be closed. Make sure you put all your stop
1:08:05
signs. Make sure check all traffic
1:08:06
lights, especially if you're doing the roll route
1:08:10
optimization and they're changing your line of travel,
1:08:12
you're going to have to do that all over again.
1:08:15
Make sure that all your walk distances in office, if you are
1:08:19
a withdrawal office are correct. Make sure to remeasure it.
1:08:23
Always, always remeasure it. And then make sure that you're
1:08:27
authorized dismounts, anything, that anything extra that you
1:08:30
have, make sure everything is correct because this is the time
1:08:34
right before mini meal survey, before the system pulls all the
1:08:37
data that it's going to calculate off of.
1:08:40
This is when you're going to have to make sure everything is
1:08:43
on point, all the i's dotted, all the T's crossed.
1:08:47
Make sure you do it. It is your pay.
1:08:50
As Bill has said before. If you don't put it in the
1:08:52
system, you don't put in the scanner, you don't put in your
1:08:54
mapping, it doesn't go in your wallet.
1:08:57
This is your money. You work hard for it.
1:09:00
You work in severe weather for IT.
1:09:02
You break your back delivering Kitty litter and dog food.
1:09:05
Don't give them a single penny back that you are.
1:09:10
You were supposed to get credit for James.
1:09:13
James. You know, it's amazing to try
1:09:19
and think of what is management going to abuse carriers with.
1:09:25
We shouldn't have to have that mentality.
1:09:28
We shouldn't have to wonder how is management going to screw us
1:09:31
over this week? What's the flavor of the week
1:09:34
this week? Is it failure to follow
1:09:36
directions? Is it benchmarking the number of
1:09:40
inputs that you put in your scanner?
1:09:42
Is it the mileage on your route? Is it how fast you get out of
1:09:46
the office, load your truck sometimes Flavor of the day.
1:09:50
Yeah. And we shouldn't be thinking
1:09:54
about this rural carriers right now.
1:09:58
Well, not just even rural carriers.
1:10:00
All carriers are so overstressed.
1:10:04
With the micromanagement going on in the Postal Service, we
1:10:09
shouldn't be this stressed. We should be able to come in, do
1:10:14
our job efficiently and effectively, go home at the end
1:10:17
of the day and get paid on payday.
1:10:21
And even that's not happening. Management's failing at the even
1:10:24
the most basic functions of management, and yet here we are
1:10:32
dealing with more managerial problems, more managerial
1:10:35
failures, more managerial harassment, all because people
1:10:42
at the top aren't willing to stand up against it and fight
1:10:49
viciously and effectively to stop it from happening.
1:10:57
It's time for us carriers to get together.
1:11:01
We have our National Convention coming up.
1:11:03
This is probably one of the most contested national conventions
1:11:07
in a little while for a lot of positions, and it's time for
1:11:12
every single one of us to go there.
1:11:15
Stand up for the craft, stand up for our brothers and sisters and
1:11:22
show management and union national officers that when the
1:11:27
Royal Craft stands up, we stand together because we're all in
1:11:32
this together. Bill, well, we kind of go off of
1:11:38
James in regard to micromanaging.
1:11:43
I remember back in the day of Ben Franklin and we would sit
1:11:47
around and have some ale, maybe some grog if we we couldn't
1:11:51
afford it. But the fact of the matter is
1:11:54
it's real simple. You get us the mail, we case it
1:11:58
up, we take it out, we deliver it.
1:12:00
You provide us with the materials that we require to do
1:12:06
the job. Now, every carrier has specific
1:12:09
little things that what they do in different fashions.
1:12:12
But the thing of it is, it's real simple.
1:12:14
Get us the mail, this the packages in a timely fashion.
1:12:19
Give us the support we need. If we are falling down on the
1:12:22
job in some aspect, talk to us so we can make the corrective
1:12:27
action. Don't come in and just hammer us
1:12:30
with discipline. Work with us.
1:12:33
This is a working relationship. It's not like a married
1:12:37
relationship like was brought up at the caucuses last year.
1:12:40
But the thing of it is that this is a relationship.
1:12:43
You respect me, I respect you. We work together for a common
1:12:47
goal. And since we're the ones aren't
1:12:50
that are the face of the post office, you need to treat us
1:12:54
with a little more respect as we are going out into the public.
1:12:57
And we're conveying that confidence that we have in the
1:13:00
post office, in the management, in the system.
1:13:04
We can't do that. And the customers see that and
1:13:09
the customers know it because you know, the failures of
1:13:11
delivery for any aspect, whether it be a parcel, certified letter
1:13:15
or whatever, hold mail, forward e-mail.
1:13:19
All you have to do is support us and work together.
1:13:24
But that doesn't seem to be the mindset of the current postal
1:13:28
management. It's hammer, hammer, hammer,
1:13:31
hammer, hammer. You know what, When you keep
1:13:34
hammering like this, somebody's going to snap.
1:13:38
And I don't want to bring up, you know, situations that have
1:13:41
occurred in the past, but this is what we're going towards.
1:13:44
This is what's gearing up because of the fact that you
1:13:48
treat carriers like dirt or less than human in their eyes.
1:13:54
And we can be replaced at the moment's notice, which is
1:13:57
surprising because you have so many offices out there.
1:14:00
They can't hire carriers and retain carriers.
1:14:06
But you know what you can retain piece of shit management.
1:14:10
But don't know the contract, don't know the six O 3, don't
1:14:13
know the Elm, don't know the Arcam, don't know Jack's shit.
1:14:19
But as long as they follow the orders of those above them,
1:14:23
maintain their jobs, as long as they get their reports done in a
1:14:26
timely fashion every day, their jobs are secure.
1:14:31
As long as they turn around and maintain the hostile work
1:14:35
environment and threaten you. When I heard of a poom saying
1:14:41
you haven't fulfilled necessary I what you call I ion eyes or
1:14:49
Pdis for last month. Hold it.
1:14:51
You're benchmarking Pdis now? What the hell is going on?
1:14:57
Shouldn't you be correcting the action of these carriers instead
1:15:01
of disciplining? Remember it is supposed to be a
1:15:05
corrective action, not a disciplinary action.
1:15:09
They forgot that and that's why they lose most of their
1:15:12
grievances. Can only hope for the best with
1:15:17
the National Convention coming up and that is new membership
1:15:21
with a new perspective, with a hands on perspective of what
1:15:25
carriers face every day in office across this nation.
1:15:31
We can only pray that we have the opportunity to turn this
1:15:34
union around and make it start representing the craft.
1:15:40
All the craft union and non union members alone.
1:15:44
I like because of the fact that if you do it to one, you're
1:15:46
going to do it to anybody else in there.
1:15:48
So James said it, you have to stand up for these people to
1:15:53
stand up for everybody because we are legally required to do
1:15:58
so. But you should be doing it
1:16:00
because it's your best interest. Also, all I can say is that, you
1:16:06
know, we're still in summer heat, everybody hydrates, start
1:16:10
drinking fluids tonight, non alcoholic.
1:16:12
Of course, go out there and do the job the most proficiently,
1:16:19
professionally and with great courtesy towards your customers
1:16:22
and your fellow carriers and make sure you do what you're
1:16:27
supposed to do, what you're paid to do and get home because
1:16:32
you're the most important delivery of the day to your
1:16:34
loved ones. Have a good night, Kristen.
1:16:38
Thank you, guys. Yes, I'm right here.
1:16:42
Thank you guys again. Going to be back this week with
1:16:45
everybody, you know, like Toasty said.
1:16:48
Mapping, make sure that you know you're getting in there and
1:16:53
you're getting yourself mapped. You're going through the whole
1:16:56
system, whole LTM. And I will reiterate, when
1:17:02
you're doing an LTM and you're doing the whole thing, you can
1:17:05
see if boxes are not pinned in the right place.
1:17:10
I mean, I've had a couple of them as I got the opportunity to
1:17:14
map facilitate last month. Again, where it looks like
1:17:19
you're backing up or you're going in circles to get boxes in
1:17:23
a section. You know, if you see that, make
1:17:25
notes of where those are at so you can go in and fix them in
1:17:28
the DPM. Management may not want to have
1:17:31
to spend the extra time doing it, but that is your right to
1:17:35
make sure that that is correct and definitely do that.
1:17:39
Next, many mail surveys coming up end of August during National
1:17:44
Convention. You know, I will be gone all but
1:17:48
two days as of right now for the mini mail survey.
1:17:51
So, you know, I am going to request that my sub sends me the
1:17:57
numbers every day of what needs to what, you know, what was
1:18:01
counted with the raw mail and whatnot.
1:18:04
And that way I can keep track while I'm gone and make sure,
1:18:09
you know, I know my route so I know what what the averages are.
1:18:14
But yeah, stay hydrated out there guys.
1:18:16
It's still summer. It's still hot, humid, and stay
1:18:22
safe out there. You know, take those comfort
1:18:24
breaks as needed. Try and stay cool, stay
1:18:27
hydrated, and make sure you're taking care of yourself because
1:18:32
you know, getting home to your loved ones is the most important
1:18:35
thing at the end of the day. And on that note, guys, will
1:18:39
everybody have a safe week and we shall return next week.
1:18:58
All right, we're back. We're back.
1:19:00
OK, All right, I'm going to help out of here and go grab some
1:19:04
dinner. All right, if you have to eat,
1:19:07
go ahead.