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6/29/26: US & Iran Trade Strikes, Trump 250th Fair Flops, Zohran Freezes Rent In NYC · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 2: dynamics did dig into there, both political and in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the policy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, if soccer were here, he would say greasy Gavin.
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  Speaker 1: That's gude be his favorite Trump nickname. I think Kyle
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  Speaker 1: came up with that to be fair and he got
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  Speaker 1: to Trump somehow. Hasn't Trump used it?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, has it?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Interesting?
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  Speaker 5: All right?
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  Speaker 4: Well, Factchuck, it may be one of those.
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  Speaker 2: It's such a good on the nose nickname that it
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  Speaker 2: just emerged from the ether from a variety of places.
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  Speaker 4: It does feel like one of those.
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  Speaker 1: It occurred in nature and everyone just sort of discovered it,
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  Speaker 1: like any type of fruit or plant.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, not invented, it was just discovered.
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  Speaker 1: We came upon it. Society like Crystal just ran down.
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  Speaker 1: This is a big show. So let's get started.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a some wild scenes that were unfolding this
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  Speaker 2: weekend in a variety of places.
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  Speaker 4: Let's put these images up on the screen.
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  Speaker 2: This was actually Iraq near the American embassy in the
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  Speaker 2: Green Zone. You see this military operation going on. There
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  Speaker 2: were tanks in the streets. It's still kind of unclear
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  Speaker 2: what exactly was going on here.
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  Speaker 4: The best that I've seen is that.
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  Speaker 2: Some sort of pro Iran, probably more Shia aligned Iranian
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  Speaker 2: officials were arrested, were accused of corruption. But I think
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  Speaker 2: it is indicative of the sort of chaos and tumult
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  Speaker 2: that has unfolded in the region.
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  Speaker 4: As I mentioned before, we had renewed.
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  Speaker 2: Hot hostilities between Iran and the US. Let's go and
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  Speaker 2: put a four up on the screen. This is the
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  Speaker 2: newest news. As I mentioned before, US and Iran a
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  Speaker 2: great to halt strikes and meet this week.
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  Speaker 4: So this just.
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  Speaker 2: Happened Emily last night, just before the markets opened. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how many times have we done the stance where over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend when the markets are closed.
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  Speaker 4: You had first it started with there was.
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  Speaker 2: A dispute over what's going on with the straight of
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  Speaker 2: Horn moves.
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  Speaker 4: There were US strikes.
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  Speaker 2: Iran hit a couple of ships that were transitting in
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  Speaker 2: a route that they did not approve of. Then the
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  Speaker 2: US retaliated quite significantly. Put a five up on the
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  Speaker 2: screen here some of the details here, US launches for
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  Speaker 2: USh strikes in retaliation for Iranian attack on a tanker ship.
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  Speaker 2: We had some classic Trump threats. We can put a
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  Speaker 2: six up on the screen, he says. United States aircraft
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  Speaker 2: just struck Iranian missile and drone storage locations and coastal
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  Speaker 2: radar sites for violating the seasfire agreement. Again, very possible.
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  Speaker 2: They will never learn. There may come a point when
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  Speaker 2: we are no longer able to be reasonable and will
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  Speaker 2: be forced to militarily complete the job that we very
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  Speaker 2: successfully started. If that happens, the Islami Republic of Iran
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  Speaker 2: will no longer exist.
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  Speaker 1: Chris, what can we pause on that? Yeah, just for so,
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  Speaker 1: because he says something important here, which is that we
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  Speaker 1: will complete the job we very successfully started. He is
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  Speaker 1: now selling all of these deals as very much a
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  Speaker 1: completed job, but implying in that post he would need
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  Speaker 1: to do all kinds of strikes.
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  Speaker 4: To complete and actually finish the job.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and so the implication is that the job has
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  Speaker 1: not been finished.
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  Speaker 4: That is true.
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  Speaker 2: That is a good reading of that. And of course
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  Speaker 2: the even just the threats that are in that that
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  Speaker 2: you know, Iran will cease to exist or whatever he says,
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  Speaker 2: that is in direct contradiction to the Memo of Understanding
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  Speaker 2: that they signed, which is supposed to include the fact, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to go around threatening each other, and
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  Speaker 2: he did not abide by that, for even literally one
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  Speaker 2: day after the Memo of understanding was signed. In terms
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  Speaker 2: of Iran, we can put the next element up on
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  Speaker 2: the screen is another Trump post. He says that they
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  Speaker 2: shot at least for one way attack durones that ship's
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  Speaker 2: trains first transversing the Strait of Horror moves. One of
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  Speaker 2: the drones solidly hit the upper deck of a large
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  Speaker 2: and very expensive cargo carrying ship. Damage was done. The
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  Speaker 2: ship was able to proceed on its way. We knocked
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  Speaker 2: down three other drones. Obviously, this is a foolish violation
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  Speaker 2: of our ceasefire agreement. Iran retaliated a nine put this
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  Speaker 2: up on the screen with strikes in both Kuwait and
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  Speaker 2: bah Rain, hitting some of the.
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  Speaker 4: Bases there that have already been hit.
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  Speaker 2: No loss of life, some damage did occur, apparently, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we have very little visibility into how much damage and
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  Speaker 2: how damaged these bases are to begin with. More and
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  Speaker 2: more information has come out that some were quite heavily damaged,
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  Speaker 2: even potentially obliterated. Our troops had to be moved away
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  Speaker 2: from them during the peak of hostilities. In fact, I
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  Speaker 2: suspect that they have not really returned, which is probably
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  Speaker 2: why there was no loss of life. So, in any case,
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  Speaker 2: ships struck hot disagreements over the Strait of Horn moves. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Emily that is going to continue to be a key
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  Speaker 2: sticking point. There was a question whether negotiations were going
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  Speaker 2: to see this week. We're not jd vance, you said
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  Speaker 2: this morning is headed to Qatar. They have moved the
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  Speaker 2: negotiations out of Switzerland after all of this unfolded, and
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  Speaker 2: now they have changed the topic that they are going
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  Speaker 2: to focus on to start with, They're going to start
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  Speaker 2: instead of beginning with the nuclear file, They're going to
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  Speaker 2: start with what's going on with the straight of form
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  Speaker 2: is because this is obviously an area that continues to
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  Speaker 2: lead to hot conflict.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point, the agreement came down yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: no surprise there. Once again another market Time reaction features
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: are up right now as we are taping this. Also,
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  Speaker 1: no big surprise on that front. But the Times is
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  Speaker 1: confirming that Vance plans to head to Katar, and then
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  Speaker 1: on top of that, the Iranians are not confirming they
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  Speaker 1: will be in Qatar, which is another pattern that we
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  Speaker 1: have seen played out so far, many many times. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what comes of it tomorrow. But obviously them
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  Speaker 1: agreeing on Sunday to stop fire in the Strait tells
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  Speaker 1: you pretty much exactly why that was timed as it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting too that Iran goes along with these
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  Speaker 2: marketmenutes or are they?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean it seems like they somewhat are.
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  Speaker 2: At least we don't have them coming out and saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we don't agree to this. You know, they've
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  Speaker 2: kept their rhetoric to a minimum. And seem to accept that, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we had our tit for tat, now we're going to
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  Speaker 2: go back to the negotiating table.
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  Speaker 4: Appears to be what's happening. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, in some sense, if they don't show up tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess to your point, if they're agreeing
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  Speaker 1: to something that allows Trump to open the markets and
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: say he's achieved another breakthrough in the negotiations and talk
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  Speaker 1: tough like he clearly wants to. I mean, for we
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: have some video actually that we're going to play. But
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: like for a Mark Levin, this is wonderful news and
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Trump is now back on his side, and you get
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  Speaker 1: to see Trump being like playing the tough guy that
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  Speaker 1: they want him to play, and then he gets that
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  Speaker 1: like he gets the flex and so for the Iranians,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, if he needs to do that in
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  Speaker 1: order for us to keep something on the table, then
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe logically that's how all plays out. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It is odd.
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  Speaker 4: You can see things in two ways. Number One, the.
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  Speaker 2: Fact that they both parties seemed interested in limiting the
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  Speaker 2: hostilities here and both were interested in Okay, at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, let's get back to the negotiating
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  Speaker 2: table and fine, we'll let you do your typical market manipulation.
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  Speaker 2: It's an indication that both sides really do want to
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  Speaker 2: come up with some deal that's going to be workable
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  Speaker 2: for a run. It would be great for them to
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  Speaker 2: get sanctions, relieve, to be able to charge their fee
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  Speaker 2: for the straight of horm.
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  Speaker 4: Moves, to have to be treated more.
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  Speaker 2: Like a sort of normal nation in the world, and
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  Speaker 2: the possibility of that being held down is a very
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  Speaker 2: powerful motivation. Even though Jeremy and Dropside have reported that
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  Speaker 2: there are schisms in the country over whether or not
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  Speaker 2: this is the right direction. So you always have to
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  Speaker 2: remember they have their own domestic political situation that they
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: also have to manage, and they have different ideological views
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  Speaker 2: within their government as well as we do. Now on
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: our side, you know, Trump is ultimately the decider, and
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  Speaker 2: so even if you do have different ideological points of view,
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  Speaker 2: what he says is going to go. But even contained
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  Speaker 2: within Trump are multitudes, you know, depending on the day,
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  Speaker 2: depending on the day, so that hardly creates a stable situation.
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  Speaker 2: So on the other hand, so those are the forces
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  Speaker 2: that are sort of driving towards Okay, we'll have some
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  Speaker 2: sort of a resolution. Trump very clearly is terrified of
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  Speaker 2: going back to full war and hostilities.
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  Speaker 4: He said as much.
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  Speaker 2: He told us that there was going to be bedlam
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  Speaker 2: if the war continued for several more weeks. He said
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: that he was terrified of being like Herbert Hoover causing
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: some great economic crisis that is clearly hanging over his head.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: And he's deeply worried about that mid terms coming up,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. On the other hand, this continued
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  Speaker 2: fighting over the Strait of hor Moves is not nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And this is before we even get into the Israel
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  Speaker 2: Lebanon piece, which is another completely separate and very significant,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps the most magnificant issue that will tackle in just
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  Speaker 2: a second. But if we just focus on the straight
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  Speaker 2: of Horror moves, you know, with continued targeting of ships, there,
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  Speaker 2: how many ships are going to feel comfortable passing. There's
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  Speaker 2: clearly a difference of viewpoint in terms of what channels
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  Speaker 2: they're supposed to use to navigate and who's supposed to coordinate.
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  Speaker 2: These are very dicey and sticky issues that they're going
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  Speaker 2: to attempt to tackle now. And that's without mentioning the
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  Speaker 2: nuclear issue. And that's without mentioning, as I said before,
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  Speaker 2: Israel and Lebanon. So there are some very very challenging
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: issues here that remain to be worked out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think honestly, the best prediction, to
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  Speaker 1: the extent that you can have a prediction, is that
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  Speaker 1: this is going to look very similar to what happened
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  Speaker 1: in Gaza, that you get it on the back burner,
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: which is exactly Trump's plan is to put it from
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  Speaker 1: a kind of publicity pr perspective towards the page two
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  Speaker 1: of the papers as the negotiations are worked out, and
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: then it just kind of disappears. And he's able to say,
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  Speaker 1: but like, even if we're looking here the New York
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  Speaker 1: Times system incomplete, But data, nonetheless, than the ships that
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  Speaker 1: are coming through the show trade of horror moves yesterday
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  Speaker 1: was less than it looks like it was between twenty
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  Speaker 1: and thirty it has gotten. June twenty fourth was the high,
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  Speaker 1: over seventy ships. Even that is significantly below the estimated
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  Speaker 1: pre war average. Like, it's not even coming anywhere close
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  Speaker 1: right now. So he has a long way to go.
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  Speaker 1: But the conversation that we were having about the straight
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  Speaker 1: of horn moves Jeremy's reporting on that it's at the
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  Speaker 1: center of the domestic political question in Iran as how
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  Speaker 1: they are leveraging the straight of horror moves in the
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  Speaker 1: negotiation deals. Ben Shapiro reacting to the bombing over the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: He had a great weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Emily, Well, this is a eight let's roll Ben Shapiro's
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  Speaker 1: reaction to Trump bombing Iran.
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  Speaker 6: This is part of a shift that is happening away
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  Speaker 6: from the interpretation of this not very good MoU inservet
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: of JD. Van's fashion, and toward a much more Marco
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  Speaker 6: Rubio like foreign policy. The idea is that we're not
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  Speaker 6: going to keep overlooking Iranian violence, particularly in the straight
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  Speaker 6: of horn moves. That's great, it's excellent, And the reason
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  Speaker 6: is excellent is because you need the credible threat of
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: use of force in order to get the Iranians to
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  Speaker 6: even abide by basic terms of agreements. And when you
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: add what just happened in the strait of hormoves to
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  Speaker 6: the move that was made by Secretary of State Rubio
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  Speaker 6: at the behest of President Trump in this deal between
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: Israel and Lebanon, you're starting to see the beginning of
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: a good foreign policy emerged once again in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 6: ASA Secretary of Rubio, the governments of Israel and Lebanon
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  Speaker 6: made a bold decision to agree to a framework that
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: builds a realistic path out of endless conflict. This agreement
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: establishes a clear and structured process to restore Lebanon's sovereignty,
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: disarm Risbellah, and dismantle its terrorist infrastructure, and enable Israel
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: to return to its borders once that threat to its
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: citizens is removed. Now again, this is great because what
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: this means is two solid moves in favor of a
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: Middle East that is not built around Iranian power, is
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: built around limiting and destroying Iran's ford terrorist capacity.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: So a couple of things there, Crystal. First, you have
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Shapiro doing the move where he's comparing the Van and
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Rubial foreign policy. You all interviewed Maggie Harman and John
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Swan on Friday Show. We're remembering, of course, they reported
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: in that big New York Times piece around the beginning
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: of the war that both Vance and Rubio were against it,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: that Rubio privately was saying it was his preference not
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: to go to war at that moment. So it's always
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: interesting to hear that continue to be invoked. But also
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I think what you just heard is that Shapiro wants
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: a very different version of the MoU. Right, he said
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: very bad MoU and that's kind of exactly along the lines.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: But I think ultimately happens is that it falls apart,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: but it does so in much less high profile fashion.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: And that's the if you're Mark Levin, if you're Ben Shapiro,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: if you're firmly in the like pro Israel camp of this,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what you want to see. The contours
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: that originally came out be gradually shortage, right, exactly.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Well, first we just have to pause and note how
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, the genuine happiness coming off of that man
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: over a return to bombing is worth taking note of.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Quote Trump is back, Trump is back.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Ben Shapier is very happy.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sure this morning he's less happy now that there's
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: you know, back to talks and potential ceasefire negotiations. But
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the joy that people like him and Mark Levin get
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: from an American bombing campaign is something I really cannot
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: relate to.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: He talks about there though, this.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Piece with Israel and Lebanon, which is extremely, extremely significant
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: and of all the potential stumbling blocks, and I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: this is part of why he's so happy, of all
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: the potential stumbling blocks that could cause this whole thing
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to fall apart. This new there was this new supposed
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: agreement between the US and Lebanon's Prime minister and Israel
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: that did not include the significant political player in Lebanon, HESBLA,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: which people have to remember is not only a fighting force,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: they have representatives in government. In fact, the speaker of
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the Lebanese Parliament was very upset by this deal being struck.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: It has all kinds of provisions in it that really
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: undermine Lebanine sovereignty. So for example, they're not allowed to
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: pursue any sort of legal action against Israelis for war
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: crimes that they have been committing. And as a result
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: of this deal, they were actually put a eleven up
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: on the screen. There were actually protests that broke out
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: in Beirut with some significant scenes.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: There were all these.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Motorcycle groups that occupied the roads, there were some fires
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: that were set, There was some you know, some genuine
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: upset and protest over this deal that was struck.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: We can put a ten up on the screen. This
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: is the.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Baroque revied version of what happened here. The US asked
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Israel for two changes in order to secure the deal,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: including Israeli withdrawal from a village in southern Lebanon currently
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: under Israeli occupation, clear statement that this would mark the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: beginning of a broader process of redeployment out of Lebanon,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: but notably, just to be clear, we asked for them
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: to leave this one particular village, but put A thirteen
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: up on the screen. There was a long list of
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: villages that Lebanese citizens still cannot return to and have
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: been you know, expelled from. And yes there's some language
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: in here about oh, Israel should start to withdraw in general,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: but nothing to fully compel them to do that. Natan
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yahoo uh A thirteen is very happy with how all
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: of this went down. He said that Iran and Hezbola
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: have no role in Lebanon under the deal, and Israel
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: can maintain their security zone that is diplomatic speak here
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: for occupation. So his view and what he's selling to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the public in Israel any press conference, is that this
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: framework accord with Lebanon allows them to stay in Lebanon,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: occupying southern Lebanon indefinitely. So in any case, this is
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: you know, this is obviously going to be a major
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: problem for Iran. They've been quite consistent only from the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: beginning that there is no peace deal without including Lebanon.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: There is upset for the public, there is a possibility,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: certainly of even a potential civil war. This again is
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: something that the Ben Shapiro's of the world would have
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: no problem with. And I think part of his delight
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: is not just the return to bombing over the weekend,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: but the feeds of the destruction of this entire deal
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: being planted through this mechanism.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, he basically said
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that in the clip that we rolled Yea, he started
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: with the bombing and pivoted directly to Lebanon immediately afterwards.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So I think that's absolutely correct, and I think it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: probably another sign again we saw this over and over
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: again with the Gaza deal, like this is playing out
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: so similarly to how that paid out. But what's interesting
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: about that is it really did fade to the background
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of the media cycle, and I think that's what Trump knows.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Here's the problem, though, is that the global economy does
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: not depend.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: On Gaza, right, Yeah, no, absolutely.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And so I think you're right that that may be
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: what he's hoping.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: For, probably what he's now moving towards, separating to the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: extent that he possibly can Lebanon in the Iran deal,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: which the Iranians know they don't want. But that's I mean,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that would make sense from his perspective how he thinks
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: this could play out.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: But as long as ships and their insurers do not
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: feel that things are all good to go in the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Strait of Hormuz, the economic clock is going to continue
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to tick. So all of those calamitous outcomes that Trump
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: was so concerned about that brought him to what is,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: by you know, any reasonable measure, a very humiliating a
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: memo of understanding and state of affairs where basically the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: US has to acknowledge the world that we lost this war.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: It was the economic calamity that brought us to that point.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: All of those pieces continue, maybe at a slightly slower pace,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: but continue to ramp up the pressure. You know, where
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: strategic petroleum reserve is reaching bottom of the barrel. There's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: only so much that China is going to be able
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to save us. You know, they really curtailed their imports
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of oil and gas. That's part of how we were
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: able to get to this point. And so if you
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: continue to have a situation where it's unstable and you
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: do not have the straight of Hormus open in the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: way that it was before, then it's going to be
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: very hard to keep Iran on the back borner forever.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: It's different from Gaza in that regard. I mean, that's why,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that's why you can unfortunately kick Gaz off the front
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: pages and get people to pay attention to other things.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: But Iran is demonstrated they have this powerful economic weapon,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and that's something that's hard to push in the background.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: But totally it's it's sort of in the same way
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I think he saw Venezuela and got this hubris about
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Iran Bagura on that. It's not that it's necessarily an
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: accurate reading of the situation, but I think it fueled
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: his sense of kind arrogance about what be able to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: be accomplished. And if it's not clear from everything we've
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: just run down, this is nobody is out of the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: woods on this, like this is not really a ceasefire.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Obviously we've seen that pretty clearly over the last couple
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: of weeks. But even the MoU itself is on enormously
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: shaky ground whether there anything I mean, yes, they signed
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the points and all of that, but whether the sixty
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: day Nuclear Conversation is even able to happen in this context.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: They can keep having the meetings, they can keep going
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: to Cutter, they can keep going to Switzerland if they
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: end up back there, but it doesn't really mean much
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: unless ships are able to keep going through the Strait
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of Hormuz, and so far we haven't seen that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: That is exactly right.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: But to your point, I think Trump he doesn't really
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: want to have to deal with this anymore. He has
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: other things on his mind, Emily, when.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to keep hearing the candidates that are
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: actually campaigning and trying to keep their seats chirping at
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: him about gas prices, so he wants to get that
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: out of the way. And to your point, Crystal, focus
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: on the beautiful celebration of America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Boy,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: do we have some clips for you. The fourth of
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: July is right around the corner, and celebrations here in Washington,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: DC are off Donald Trump's great American Fair, Great American
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: State Fair, I should say, is now officially open, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the early scenes could be better from his perspective, let's roll.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Some of the clips remembered.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: A military parade that was like, really pathetic. It's very
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: much that coded.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you see here a smattering of people. This
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: is actually interesting. So this has been going pretty viral.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about it in just one moment. But if
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you saw the Israeli flag, we'll finish that in just second.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Just download that into your mind. Yep, we'll be there
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: in just a second. But here's what it's looked like.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: This is pretty consistent across the last weekend obviously the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: last weekend before July fourth weekend, and there have been
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: all kinds I think at one point the power went
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: out and all the ice cream melted. So yeah, there
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: have been all kinds of problems and not huge crowds.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: That may change over the course of the week, but
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: so far just really a smattering of people. That image
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: from inside the tent has been going megaviral of the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Israeli flag and the American flag to get under this
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: big tent on the National Mall. You saw the big
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: baptism pool there. I will say that is a tent
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that is always on the National Mall. They have like
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: some type of permanent permit. It's called David's Tent, and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it's I actually don't know much about it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: You get a permanent permit.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's actually really odd, like it's always been.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: There for the always sent for when are we talking Probably.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: The last like five to ten years. It's been pretty
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: consistently there. So people have said, oh, it must be
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: part of the State Fair, because the Great American State Fair,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: because it's like an official tent, it's always there.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Our administration is going to clean this up.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think Platinum would stand for that permanent permit
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: on the National Mall. But yes, if you've seen the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: pictures going viral now, that doesn't preclude is really flags
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: being in other parts of the Great American State Fair.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. Not impossible, wouldn't rule it up.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I bet if you walk around and see enough of
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the attendees, you got to have somebody there. You know
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: how they have those shirts that have like the American
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: flag and the Israeli flag put together, that you could
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: find one of those I'm sure it seems like it
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: should be there. Yeah, I mean it, Like I said,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: it reminds very much of the military parade, which I
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: was all like, oh my god, this is going to
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: be some powerful fascist display. And then it was the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: most embarrassing thing you've ever seen sponsor coin base.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: And then the squeaky like old tanks rolling down the
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: street and then just like someone walking holding this tiny drone.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It was really pathetic. And this very much has that
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: energy to it. And here's the thing is, Look, I mean,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest like raw raw America kind.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Of a gal.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: There are some things that are special about America.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: But you know, at our best and the ideals that
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I really do value in treasure and the idea of
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: being a country where we could all come together and
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, we just feel
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: so far from that. Trump of course, had to make
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: it all about himself and personalize it the way he
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: does everything makes it political.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: You had certain states that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Didn't even send any official sort of information or set
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: up their booths officially.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: This happened even Jos Shapiro in Pennsylvania.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, and North Carolina, which Josh Stein is
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a Democrat, is the governor of North Carolina. They didn't
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: send an official thing for their little state area, and
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: so some private organizations took control of it, and they.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Put up a freaking Confederate flag.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: We have this is b three like rule this in
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the background.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Let's just pause for a second that at this nation's
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty the anniversary, you are going to
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: put up the flag of a bunch of traders who
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: tried to break up the country, a bunch of immoral,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: slaveholding traders who tried to destroy the country. And so
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: this became a whole thing. The Washington Post wrote a
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: piece about it. They ultimately were forced to take it down.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: The fact that this was put up at all is
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: just so embarrassing and egregious. But yeah, it's a sign,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: i would say, of where we are right now as
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: a nation. It's a sign putting Trump aside. And yes,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: of course he makes it political and makes it about
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: himself and also executes everything incredibly and competently. Just either
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: reflecting Pool for another trivial example of this, but this
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: is an empire that's in decline that people do not
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: feel like things are great and I'm ready to go
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: out cheer for America. And this is part of, frankly,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: what Trump ran on, I mean, when he ran on
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: American carnage, that was an acknowledgment of how people were
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: starting to feel about this country. And now we have
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: this defeat in a war against Iran, it is becoming
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: abundantly clear that our position in the world is not what.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: It used to be.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: So it's sort of appropriate that this is what this lackluster, pathetic, incompetent,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: cheap flap together display is what we are using to
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: celebrate the two undred and fiftieth anniversary.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: We have some numbers actually that we'll get to in
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: just one moment on just to put a finer point
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: on the mood of the country that Chris was laying out.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I actually don't dislike the concept of like
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a great American state fair.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like you could actually do that so many
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: wonderful state fairs. I am a fan of a state fair.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and like to have you know, if we
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: were in a different place as a country, to have
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: every state represented would be Actually I think you could
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: do that in a way. That's pretty cool. We'll see
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: if the crowds pick up of the course of the week.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I doubt it. It's gonna be so hot. Crystal's having
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a full meteorology breakdown later in the show, so stay
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: tuned for that. But yeah, it's it. Let's let's look
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: at how Fox News handled it. So they've set up
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a studio on the National Mall. This is something they've
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: been doing more more recently, probably trying to like invigorate
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the image of the imagery of cable news as podcasting
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: kind of you know, eats away at the audience a bit.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: But this is B two. This is how Fox News
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: handled it on a broadcast over the weekend.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: Happy Early Birthday, America.
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: We're celebrating already at the Great American State Fair. Man.
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: We've got thousands of people celebrating this birthday with Asami.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: You and I had he has to go out.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: We got to see some of the exhibits. I'm sure
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: you got what I got, which was a lot of
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: people going, hey, love to watch it on Fox.
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: I hope a lot of them left the mall, went
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: home and turned on their TV.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: In our loveses right now.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Thousands Okay, it didn't really it looked more like hundreds
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in that videos always hard to count these things. Let's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: put up the next element here before President Trump's highly
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: tied Great American State Fair got off to rough start
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Wednesday night, with NBC News estimating only slightly over one
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: thousand attendees showed up for the opening rally on the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: National Mall and Crystal. As you were talking about the
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: mood of the country, it was making me think actually
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of Ronald Reagan, because Trump took the Reagan slogan about
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: make America great again, repurposed it in twenty sixteen, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: thought that he could have that influence on the mood
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of the country, even though he was always very polarizing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: The idea was that he spoke for some type of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow Nixon imagery silent majority that would be invigorated by
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: his platform and that would unify everyone. Could sort of
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: see finally the unheard people feeling more heard again, and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: this would have a rally around the flag effect. And
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: during the Reagan administration, I mean, by nineteen eighty four,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: President Reagan ran like won in a landslide, and that
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: actually did kind of happen. Like whether you like or
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: just like Reagan, the mood of the country over the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: course of the eighties. Whether we like debating the policy
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: is a different thing. But in that moment that did happen, there.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Was like a confidence that came back.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, morning in America. Successful Reagan ad campaign. That is
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: not happening for Donald Trump at all at all. It's
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: not happening for Donald Trump in one like that. It's
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: actually going the opposite direction. So this is where you
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: can see his frustration, building, building, building. He put out
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: a true social post over the weekend. This is B five.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: It is a gargantuan post. This is the one we
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: popped into a word count calculator. Six hundred words according
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: to I wonder if.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: He's ever written anything longer than this.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: If you're not watching this, you can barely see the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: text on the screen because it has to be so small.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: It begins, I just returned from a tour of very statues, monuments, fountains,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and most importantly, an old and run down golf course
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  Speaker 1: located through Washington, d c our nation's capital. Almost all
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  Speaker 1: the statues, monuments and fountains have been completely renovated and
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  Speaker 1: restored and are in after suffering years of graffiti, abuse
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  Speaker 1: and vandalism, perfect shape. He goes on to say, I
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  Speaker 1: mean everything is in here, golf courses, the course architect.
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  Speaker 1: He says, it will be built through the department of
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  Speaker 1: the Interior and designed to the highest standards of golf,
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  Speaker 1: but also in such a way that the general public
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  Speaker 1: will love it. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Chris,
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  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, he's talking about East Potomac Golf Course, which,
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't been to DC, it's like a cheap,
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  Speaker 1: fun local course. Like it's actually it has its own
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  Speaker 1: little charm to it. People are very worried that he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna totally like upend that it is a beautiful piece
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  Speaker 1: of land. I don't even know why I'm getting stuck
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  Speaker 1: in this conversation about the golf course. I could see it,
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  Speaker 1: you do it right, Like, I could see it being
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool because you have a view of the National Mall.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually already kind of cool, though, I get why
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  Speaker 1: people are again, I don't know why I'm talking about this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have never played golf there because I just
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  Speaker 2: took up golf relatively recently.
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  Speaker 4: But that area too is very popular with cyclists.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's like a sort of like a loop
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  Speaker 2: you can do that's relatively long, that doesn't have much traffic,
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  Speaker 2: and so in any case, he wants to change all
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  Speaker 2: of that. But the more to the point, how do
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  Speaker 2: you feel about the golf course and the cyclists? This
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  Speaker 2: is what he spends his time on, like genuinely. And
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  Speaker 2: this was something else we got from Maggie Haberman and
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan's one which is abundantly clear. Washington posted an analysis
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  Speaker 2: of what he talks about the most, and it's the ballroom.
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  Speaker 2: Like the ballroom, the Arcta trump now, the golf course,
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  Speaker 2: is the reflecting pool. These are the things that he
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  Speaker 2: is fixated on and genuinely spends heat. This is the
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  Speaker 2: most powerful man on the planet. He is the commander
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  Speaker 2: in chief. We are continuing in this sort of like
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  Speaker 2: maybe we're in a war situation. There are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of big problems going on in the world, and he
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  Speaker 2: is fixated on the color of the reflecting pool and
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  Speaker 2: the you know, further gilding the white House and the
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  Speaker 2: ballroom and picking out the tile for the walkway. This
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  Speaker 2: is what he spends his time on. And it does
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  Speaker 2: make a sort of sense with him, given both that
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  Speaker 2: is his background is developing and he obviously has an
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  Speaker 2: interest in the fixtures of his buildings whatever, but also
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  Speaker 2: because he wants to leave this indelible mark on the world,
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  Speaker 2: and specifically right now on DC, so that when he
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  Speaker 2: is gone, people will have to remember that he was there.
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  Speaker 2: So so much of this term has been spent on
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  Speaker 2: these physical, you know, manifestations of his power. That's what
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  Speaker 2: he is trying to impress upon this city and upon
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  Speaker 2: the world, and to tie it in with the Iran war,
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  Speaker 2: which obviously vastly more consequential here. That is how he
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  Speaker 2: was persuaded to get us into this disastrous mess to
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  Speaker 2: start with. Because he wants to be this world historic figure.
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  Speaker 2: This is what again Maggie Habraman Johnson SWA talked about.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to shape the world in a way that
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  Speaker 2: is undeniable, that makes him consequential.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's already done that. He has done it.
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  Speaker 2: He has absolutely done it, and he would I probably
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  Speaker 2: prefer that at the end of all of that people go,
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  Speaker 2: and it was good that he did that, but if
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  Speaker 2: they go, and that was horrific, but he genuinely did
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  Speaker 2: change the world. He would rather have that than have
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  Speaker 2: just been a sort of unremarkable blip.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's also part of it is he
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: sees it as easier, like it's easier for him to
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  Speaker 1: come in and do landscaping in Washington, d C. Some
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  Speaker 1: of which is genuinely like the fountain at Union Station
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  Speaker 1: looks beautiful. Just drove past it this morning. Wonderful. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you mister President.
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  Speaker 4: The voter for this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, it is like it looks good. But
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  Speaker 1: that allows him. Then I think he sees this is
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  Speaker 1: that allowing him to say, well, how could you possibly
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  Speaker 1: have a problem with this beautiful, restored fountain in Washington,
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  Speaker 1: d C. How could you possibly have a problem with
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  Speaker 1: the beautification of Washington, d C. And he thinks then
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: it makes it look like he is doing work for
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  Speaker 1: the people, and everyone opposed to that can't even say
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  Speaker 1: a nice thing about a fountain. And so it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like this. He's historically been good at kind of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: setting traps for his opponents in the battle of public opinion.
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  Speaker 1: And I think he thought he set up something that
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: was really good here. But when you combine it with
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: all of the self dealing enrichment, like the Albanians out
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: in the street in the thousands, protesting the Avanka and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Jared investment project. That's in another country, obviously, but I think,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: especially after the midterms, if Democrats retake the House, maybe
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: even the Senate, but if they have like subpoena powers,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the new cycle is going to be focused every day
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  Speaker 1: on these self corruption stories or these self dealing corruption stories.
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  Speaker 1: And when you couple the literal guilding with and at
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a certain point, it does start to look obviously almost
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  Speaker 1: like He's not almost, but it does start to look
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  Speaker 1: very egotistical and narcissistic. It is for us, like, obviously
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  Speaker 1: we get that, but if you're a casual observer of
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the news, you start to see a lot of it happening.
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  Speaker 1: And then you couple that with gas prices being extremely high,
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  Speaker 1: this war looking like a mess, being at war period.
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  Speaker 1: That is not going to work in the way that
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Trump thinks it was going to work.
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  Speaker 2: Let me strike a contrast that will help to set
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  Speaker 2: us up for the next block, which is Zora to
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  Speaker 2: spend a lot of time in New York City thinking
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  Speaker 2: about beautification.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and a New York.
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  Speaker 2: Post is very upset about him for jumping in the
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  Speaker 2: pool to mark the beginning of the pool season in
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  Speaker 2: New York City. But his beautification is very much centered
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  Speaker 2: around I want to make the city wonderful for you
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  Speaker 2: to enjoy, for the residents of the city to enjoy,
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  Speaker 2: for the visitors who come to the city to enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: Put together this whole online schedule of here's various free
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  Speaker 2: events throughout the city that will help you enjoy it
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  Speaker 2: throughout the summer. So it's about here's what we're doing
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  Speaker 2: to make the city wonderful because we care about you
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  Speaker 2: versus Trump.
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  Speaker 4: This is all about him, right.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, it's nice to see the Union Station fountain made
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  Speaker 2: beautiful again, which I haven't seen, so I haven't checked
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  Speaker 2: it out. I can't render a decision here myself, but
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: it is very clear that in all of these monuments
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  Speaker 2: he's building to himself in a literal ballroom that he
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  Speaker 2: can't stop talking about. These are things that he wants
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  Speaker 2: for his ego. It is not making the life of
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  Speaker 2: Americans better. It's not even making life of people in
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  Speaker 2: the city better. In fact, it's causing them certain problems.
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  Speaker 2: So that is really the distinction in the way that
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  Speaker 2: they're operating.
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  Speaker 1: And Union Station is a really interesting example. Again, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why we keep taking this bait, but I
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: will take it because I am a petty bitch. The
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  Speaker 1: weekend that they reopen to the fountain, which does really
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  Speaker 1: look good, and it's something that should have been done
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  Speaker 1: a long time ago. It was I think, really pathetic
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  Speaker 1: that the way we let are the gateway for so
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  Speaker 1: many people to the capital of the United States become
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  Speaker 1: totally decruptive. That looked really, really bad, and the fountain
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  Speaker 1: looks excellent. Just within like forty eight hours of them
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  Speaker 1: having this big ribbon cutting ceremony, I went down there
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  Speaker 1: and was taking it like it's still there's a literal
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  Speaker 1: shit on the ground in front of the door to
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  Speaker 1: Union Station, So like you can focus on the fountain
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  Speaker 1: all you want, but there are not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: structural change happening. And that's actually, I think a decent
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  Speaker 1: metaphor for what he's doing, like liberal guilding all over
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  Speaker 1: the White House. He was talking about why he went
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  Speaker 1: to Versailles because that's real gold last week, remember, like
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  Speaker 1: he was literally saying, they have real gold at Versailles.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's not gilded, that's real gold.
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  Speaker 2: Cyr's been making the Versailles comparison for quite a while.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, at this spoiled it.
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  Speaker 2: But and here's the other thing you talked about, how
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: you think he felt that he was setting up like
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  Speaker 2: a trap for his opponents of like, they can't even
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: give me credit for the fountain. Yeah, that it is beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: They hate me so much. I also think that these
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  Speaker 2: are things that he can control, yes, yes, which is
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  Speaker 2: also part of why. And Trump is not unique in
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  Speaker 2: this as presidents. Now that he has lost he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have much ability to control. Well, I mean, Congress will
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: pretty much do what he wants, but you've got a
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  Speaker 2: filibuster there. He's preferred to take just executive action. There
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: is some limit to what you can do through executive action.
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  Speaker 2: He's very unpopular, you know. His immigration agenda even has
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  Speaker 2: been subject to a massive backlash, and he had to
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  Speaker 2: pull back on some of the more maximalist aims of that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: In any case, the things that he can control are
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: foreign policy has tons of power, and these like local
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: beautification projects because of the nature of DC and the
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  Speaker 2: way that the city is structured.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that's what he sort of collapsed to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's a great point because actually Mike Johnson
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: today is going to send this bipartisan Tim Scott Elizabeth
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Warren Housing Bill to Trump's desk. Trump has said he's
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: not going to sign it unless it's coupled with Congress
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: passing the Save Act. Yes, the Housing bill is I
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: mean that it's actually politically a very good piece of legislation. Yes.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And if he is right now so frustrated that he's
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: holding that bill hostage to the Save Act, I think
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it speaks to this like much deeper frustration with Congress's
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: willingness to actually like get on board with what he
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: wants to see them doing. Obviously, to Crystal's point, there
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: is a filibuster. But we have a couple more headlines
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: to get to too, and just let's put B six
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: for better or Worse up on the screen. Headline In
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, Magafan accused of masturbating at Donald Trump's
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Great American State Fair.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Oh and this isn't setback that event that isn't set back,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: isn't it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: And this is not just any Magafan. He apparently is
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: an influencer. He was live streaming around the time of
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: this incident. There were several women, reportedly some of them
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: were performing and they were like dancers, and they were
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: performing and they saw him apparently pleasuring himself and told
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the cops, and the cops got involved, and then he
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: started this whole like free Manny campaign and his followers
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: were like, oh, he was wrongly acute.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: He's being persecuted for his political views.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is trust you see what are we
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: talking about here?
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: But anyway, us for America.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he lusts, He lusts for America. Unlike you, Christian Yeah,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: unlike me.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely unlike me.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: All right, B seven, let's roll through some of those
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: numbers as probable.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Plet cleanser here.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: A little more, andison you want to feel better to
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: the country.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: CBS News has new bowling out what's best about the
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: American way of life? Forty four percent of people say
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: people in America twenty percent land resources and climate, seventeen percent,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: economic system, trade and business, ten percent system of government.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: That's not a resounding, not a resounding yes for the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: American system.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I've ever man, sure isn't. We can keep moving here.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: We've got all kinds of different slides. What is America's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: greatest invention? Democracy slash freedom running two points head of
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: the light.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Bulb, Which makes sense since we didn't actually invent democracy
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: or freedom. But you know, I like I like the energy,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I like the spirit of that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: There you go. Ten percent of the Internet. I will
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: who is saying that? Oh that's not that is like
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: our worst invention? Six percent automobile, five percent telephone, four
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: percent airplane. Interesting. Soccer would be absolutely all over this
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: if he were here, he would be in a debate.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: That would be an epic historic world historic breaking points debate.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to say, I don't know what I
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: would even say for this.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: What are we best at?
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Light bulb is not a bad answer, Actually it's a.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Pretty good one. Fifty eight percent say we're best at movies.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: In Dallas, social security, that's our best invention.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. Fifty six percent say technology and innovation.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Forty one percent say music, thirty eight percent, sports, thirty
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: one percent food. Do we have another one? Guys?
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: We keep Yeah, we got too.
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  Speaker 1: Which food best represents America? Thirty three percent hamburgers twenty
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: five percent, barbecue nineteen percent, apple pie forty percent, hot dog,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: six percent pizza. I think barbecue is the appropriate answer, right, I.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Think hamburger is just when you think of, like, how
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: dominant McDonald's is both here and globally. It's like one
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: of our chief exports is our horrendous diet. Ye, so yeah,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: probably hamburgers.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but barbecue is like the best of the America.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's more yeah, sort of aspirational.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Uniquely American, really really good. Yes, that's okay, So we
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: were agreed on that. Are you excited about the upcoming
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: America to fifty celebrations? Twenty three percent say very excited,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: twenty nine percent say somewhat excited, forty seven percent say
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: not too excited or not at all excited. I think
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: we were one more here. Will you fly the US
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: flag at home on the fourth of July? Forty eight
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: percent say yes, fifty two percent say no. In Crystal,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I think this is actually an interesting question because, particularly
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: because people our age don't have houses to fly a flag.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Outside of speaking of the housing it if you're living
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: in an apartment, you don't have a flapool, and a
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: lot of people, especially like gen Z and younger millennials,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: want to have houses, but don't have houses, and so
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: they're not even going to have the option to fly
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: a flag unless it means like sticking one too your
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: apartment window.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is a sign of the times and
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the declining vibe in the country that a majority are
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: like four even on the fourth of July, they're like, no,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: not flying the flag.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: That's I was.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: None of us were alive, you know, hosts on this
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: show for the two hundred year, the bi centennial. But
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: from the historical reviews that I've seen, people in the
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: country were genuinely excited. There were not just events here,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: but there were events in towns across the country.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: It was a whole thing.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: And we're just, you know, we're just not there mentally anymore.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I haven't in my normal life, I haven't
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: talked to anyone about the Oh my god, the two
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth celebration.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: What are you going to do to celebrate?
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: It is just not really something that is center of
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: mind for people or something that they're super enthusiastic about.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and people will probably increasingly as this discourse escalates
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: over the course of the week, blame podcasters and populists
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: for this. And I just want to say, if that's
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: your instinct, you're losing the mood of the country enormously.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Like this is totally a bottom up, not top down phenomena.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons that actually, when
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you and Soccer started hosting the show a long time ago,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: that you guys tapped into something is because you were
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: picking up on a sentiment that a lot of the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: rest of the elite media was not, and it was Again,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: that's just an example of how it's bottom up and
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: not top down. So you can blame people all you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: want in the media or in populist spaces, but it's
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: completely I mean, Bernie Sanders almost beat Hillary Clinton in
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Donald Trump did beat Hillary Clinton in twenty
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: sixteen by talking about American carnage. So, yes, like people
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: are not the sentiment when it's actually kind of self defeating.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: If you think about Donald Trump being the man who
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: actually pointed out American carnage and then turning your around
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: and looking at why people aren't happy about America's two
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth birthday, there's a contradiction and or retention
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: in that.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, well, he sees it as a verdict on him,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: which in a way it is, because you did promise
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: that you would make America great again and restore that
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: vibe in that confidence and that obviously hasn't happened, and
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: it's not unique to America. I think the entire sort
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: of Western world is you have this yo yo effect
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: of people who are very unhappy.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: They're looking for change.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: You know, they're ping ponging between different candidates, looking for
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: something to be different, and have yet to find an
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: answer to the frustrations that they have with the current system.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: And great segue to the next segment. Crystal on Zoramm
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Donnie's Sunday Show appearance this weekend.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Fresh off some highly significant political victories a last week
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: and off also off of a highly significant policy victories,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: or on Mom, Donnie Mayor of New York City sat
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: down with Jonathan Carl for what was a very interesting
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: let's take a listen to some of those highlights.
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: Republicans are going to make you the poster child for
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: the Democratic Party.
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: Let them. We don't have to ask ourselves what life
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: looks like if a socialist wins. I won last November,
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: and over the course of these last six months, what
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: we've delivered for working people are the very things we
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: were told were impossible. We've delivered free childcare for two
• 48:21
  Speaker 9: year olds, for the first time in New York City history.
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: We've delivered tens of millions of dollars back to tenants
• 48:27
  Speaker 9: who were taken advantage of by bad landlords. We've delivered
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: one hundred and sixty five thousand potholes being paved, and
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: we've done all of these things while also delivering the
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: lowest recorded crime in our city's history. That's what it
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: looks like to have democratic socialism. And what you're seeing
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: is that New Yorkers experienced this for six months and
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: made the decision that they wanted to see more of
• 48:46
  Speaker 9: it on the national stage as well.
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: And you're hearing some not just dismissive though, there's resentment.
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: And this is from fellow Democrats who think that this
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: could jeopardize democratic chances in the fall. I mean, you've
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: got Josh Gottheimer, Democratic member of Congress. So many of
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: us believe, as do I. If you're a socialist, you
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: are not a Democrat. And in fact, they put out
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: a manifesto today and have you seen this thing sounds
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: pretty socialist to me. It's not a communist manifesto. It's
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: a moderate manifesto saying we are capitalists and not socialists.
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: We believe in a growing, fair and competitive economy, entrepreneurship, ownership.
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, this is a direct response. They've made it
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: clear to what you did here on Tuesday.
• 49:27
  Speaker 9: Well, you know that's great, But what's a party if
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: not it's voters. And I'm proud to sit in front
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: of you as the mayor of our city having received
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: more than a million votes a little over a little
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: less than a year ago. And when we're talking about
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: these incredible congressional candidates, they won their races, and they
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: won their races with the vision of what politics should
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: be and one that actually speaks to working people. And
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: for a lot of people who ask themselves what does
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: democratic socialism mean? And you can tell them the answer.
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: At a theoretical level, it's the choice to extend democracy.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: From the ballot box the rest of their lives.
• 49:59
  Speaker 9: But in terms of what it means, over these last
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: seven months, we've seen a city with democratic socialist principles
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: at the heart of it within our administration, and what
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: we've delivered has been record lows when it comes to
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: murders and shootings.
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: So is it pragmatic democratic socialism?
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: I think democratic socialism at the heart is.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Pragmatic and I actually think that is a good characterization
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: of how he has governed pragmatic democratic socialism and what
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: he says there is actually really important. He's basically like, show,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: don't tell, right. I delivered free two K preschool. I
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: delivered all these potholes, filled all these millions back from
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: bad landlords.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Now he's got his rent freeze.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: You have all of these beautification projects going on in
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: New York City that make the public see what his
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: governance has meant. He has an extraordinary communication style, so
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: they're very much aware of what he is doing with
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: regard to them. He comes up with these things, you
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: know that he'll do that. You're just like, why did
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: no one ever think of that? You know, in his
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: first I think week of governance, he pressure washed the
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: entire subway just to make it a little bit nicer
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: for New Yorkers and people who are visiting. I mentioned before,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: they put together a whole calendar of Okay, here's all
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: the free events in the city. I mean that does
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: takes very little, especially with AI, to be able to
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: pull together. But just thinking about how are people going
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: to experience the city and what is it going to
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: be like? And so now rather than having this sort
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: of theoretical ideological debate about what it would mean to
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: have this type of governance, he can say just look here,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: this is what it means. And you can bet if
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: it had been a mess and of failure, all the
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Josh Gotttheimer's and everybody else of the world would be saying, see,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: this is what it means when you have socialist governance.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: So but on the count, on the contrary, he is
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: able to offer this up as a model of hey,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: this is not that scary, like people were freaking out
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: about me being mayor.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: And guess what. The longer I'm int of office, the.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Higher my approval rating goes, the more people like what
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: is on offer here. And this is what democratic socialism
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: actually means in practice.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put c sex, this's tump ahead here up
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: on the screen. There's a new poll actually that found
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Mom Donnie's favorability rating is jumping. So this is from
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: USA today. It's a Sienna University poll. They report it
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: showed that Mam Donnie's favorability edged up from earlier this year.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: And the Siena poll, which was conducted the seventeenth to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: twenty third of this month, among eleven hundred New York
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: State registered voters looked at the favorability of local legislature assembly.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: It's found that since April, Mom Donnie's favorability has gone up.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: His favorability is at forty five to thirty four percent.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: That's an increase from April where it was at forty
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: three to forty percent. In New York City, his favorability
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: is actually fifty eight percent to twenty six percent, which
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: is up from fifty six to thirty four percent. So actually,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: just even looking at that change from thirty four percent
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: unfavorable to twenty six percent unfavorable, that's even more significant
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: from the two point jump of people who find him favorable.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Sue so Big.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's to your point. He's what like six
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: months in, so there's a long time ago in his term.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: But for six months, it looks like people are responding
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: favorably in your city.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Okay to the experiment, Yeah, no, that's absolutely right. And
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I just I think it's so funny for him to
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: be making fun of the Centrist Manifesto too, because it
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: is so socialist coded to be like, oh, we have
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: our manifesto of our twelve principles, or whatever, and he's like,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I don't really have time to read your manifesto, but
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I delivered low crime rates, and your potholes are filled,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: and your kids can go to preschool when they're two
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: years old, and you can you know, it's free, you
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: can afford to live here again.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Working in that direction, you know, we froze the rent.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: And that was one of the This was a major
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: major win for him because I don't know if you
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: guys remember, but right after he got elected, there was
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: some member of the Housing Board that was adversarial to him,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: it looked like and Eric Adams was trying to screw
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: him over in terms of being able to get his
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: rent freeze, while Zorn was able to work politically behind
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: the scenes to make sure that he got what he
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: wanted from the Housing Board and was able just to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: announce that for two years, for two million apartments in
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: New York City rent stabilized apartments in New York City,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: the rent will in fact be frozen.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: This is C two. Let's take a look New York.
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: The Independent Rent Guidelines Board just froze the rent. That means,
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: if you want of the more than two million New
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: Yorkers who lives in a rent stabilized apartment, your rent's
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: going to be frozen next year.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: So for all the people who were like, oh, he's
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: not gonna be able to deliver all of this hope,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: and you guys are going to be disappointed. I don't
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: think the people that voted for him are too disappointed
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Not to say that he's not a magician.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: You know, the housing prices are not going to come
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: down in New York City overnight. But you can see
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: on his key promises, which he was very clear about
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: what they are, he is notching win after win.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's an example of something where you and
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I would probably disagree on how it plays out over time,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and I could see it hurting him ultimately in the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: next couple of years, but it will take a long time.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: And also, by the way, just people have to remember
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: that if the alternative looks like it's worse, then what
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: happens under mom Donnie with the rent freeze. I'm really
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: skeptical of rent freezes, especially for people who live in
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: lower income housing that end up because the landlords already
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: suck in so many cases having even less nice accommodations,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like at having even more things that go unrepaired. All
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that is to say, if the alternative, though feels like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: even less hopeful, then he will still have success with
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: the rent freeze the politics of it, because people at
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: least say he's doing something. And historically that's where I mean.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: The entire philosophy of communism and socialism emerged during an
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: incredibly bleak period, literally Deckenzian period of rapid industrialization that
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: was leaving a lot of people out while a lot
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: of people were thriving. If you go back and you
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: look at I shouldn't say a lot of people, a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: few people were thriving. And if you go back and
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: look at the way that Gilded Age, like quote robber
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: barons were coping at that time, they were starting to realize,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: like decades into that experiment, holy smokes, we are our
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: biggest enemies because we have turned like some of the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: sharper ones. We're noticing that we have turned people into
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: enemies of the system that we're thriving off of. And
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: some of them tried to atone for that and do
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: different things. Whether they were sincere is a different question,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: but they realized that oftentimes the capitalists were the biggest
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: enemies of capitalism. It wasn't the communists and socialists. Was
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: the capitalists who were creating the communists and the socialists
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: by benefiting off of the system and perpetuating the system.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: And so if the alternative still looks worse, people will
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: be like still clinging to socialism, maybe even communism because
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: it feels like a better option.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Well, and because there was such a freak out over
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Zorn and continues to be by the way, I'm about
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to play you some Josh Shapiro comments. You know, it
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, there's going to be Charia
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: law and read Leye executions, and so they're gonna be breadlines.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: They literally they literally.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Thought like said that that would be the case. And
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: instead it's like, no, he seems like a charming guy
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: who's just like doing his best in the city, and
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: people seem pretty happy in the next one, and you know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: like the vibe is very positive. It does it kind
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: of all goes. Everyone is looking at New York City.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: I mean I can tell you me personally, I'm like,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I wish I still live there.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: So much fun.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Everybody's happy. It's going really well.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: So all of the doom and gloom that was supposed
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: to befall and everybody is going to leave the city
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: and it's going to be chaos, etc.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: That obviously has not come to pass.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, but Ken Griffin is very uneasy because now people
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: know where his penthouse is.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: My heartbreaks for him.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: My heartbreaks for Ken Griffin and all of the landlords
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: of New York City. I'm so so sad for the
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: people who you know, bought property in the nineteen seventy
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: is when it costs three pennies and now are multi millionaires.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: And like a strawberry, Yeah right exactly.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I'm really, I'm really my heartbreaks for you, guys. Let's
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: take a listen to Josh Peros, obviously fellow Democrat governor
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: of the state of Pennsylvania, and how he characterizes Zorn's approach.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Here, Democratic voters in New York chose three candidates back.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: By Zaora Mumdani, far left and Democratic socialist candidates.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: What message do you take from that about where your
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: pony is.
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, those were races and individual districts in
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: a whole other state.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I think you're seeing very.
• 58:01
  Speaker 10: Different looking congressional races and certainly different Democratic candidates here.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: In Pennsylvania.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: I think what is important are the people who are
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: making a lot of laws, who are engaging in these
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: performing politics, have to now figure out how to deliver results.
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: It's one thing to speak in platitudes.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: During a campaign.
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: It's a whole other thing to actually deliver for people
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: who are genuinely hurting, who genuinely need to see cost
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: of living go down, meaning their ability to make ends meet,
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: you know, go off. Fixing a broken healthcare system, reining
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: in access, is being able to give people the promise
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: of liberty that.
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: We've talked about.
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: I think we as a party need to find our
• 58:45
  Speaker 10: way to any candidates who actually can deliver for people
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: and make their lives better.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Performative politics, We've got to find a way to actually deliver.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I mean that's what Zoren is showing, like, Okay, well,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I delivered my run freeze, I delivered my free two K.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: You know, they're moving forward with the grocery stores that
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: were promised this pilot program. So he's saying I am
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: actually delivering and just a fact check too on his Well,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Pennsylvania is different. Pennsylvania is about to have two of
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: the most left wing congressional representatives in the country. Chris
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Rabin Philly in summerly is already there in Pittsburgh, so
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: you know him attempting to hope well Pennsylvanias said, Oh
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: this New York City is this just like weird place.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: I'm we don't really have to pay attention to it.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: New York City is also the home of Chuck Schumer
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: and HIKEM Jeffries, the leaders of the party.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: It makes it very hard to.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Dismiss as some weird one off, especially when you couple
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: it with what happened in the main primary. Especially when
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: you couple with what is happening in the Michigan primary.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: You're going to dismiss Michigan.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, this pie in the sky, like weird,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: you know, one off sort of a situation becomes increasingly
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: difficult for people like him to dismiss that. You know,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: his politics, the way that he has positioned himself is
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: increasingly out of step with at least where the Democratic
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: but more dramatically with where the public is at large.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: And look, he's very popular in Pennsylvania. People are happy
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: with his governance there. But I think when he goes
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: to run for president, he's going to find that his
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: positions are not tenable in a Democratic Party that wants
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: to see a lot more fight, that wants to see
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: a very different orientation viz. Of the Israel that wants
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: to see the fight taken to the oligard class as well,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: and he has not shown that he is that candidate.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: It does remind me a little bit of the Tea
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Party movement era, when it was like, you know, Rand
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Paul's winning in Kentucky and Marco Rubio in Florida and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: all of these Tea Party races around the country. You
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: had the Dave Bratwynn in Virginia, and you could say, oh,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: these are just the red states, and then honestly, what
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: was it twenty ten? Scott Walker won in a very
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: pro labor historically a very pro labor state, Wisconsin. Yeah,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: it was not just relegated to some of the deepest
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: red places in the country wherepublican voters were able to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: make persuasive cases because people were furious about Obama. And
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: that was not just in deep red Kentucky. That had
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: ramifications around the country too. And I think to some
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: extpt what Jos Shapiro is missing is that some of
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: his kind of ideological enemies inside his own camp are
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: better reading the mood of the country.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Chris rob in Philadelphia
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: was in a very difficult primary against two candidates who
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: had sort of more establishment backing, and he didn't just win,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: he won overwhelmingly. And that's another thing that I want
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: to dig into more. I might do a monologue on
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: this this week. I'm suddenly feeling very like monologue inspired
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: at this moment. But you know, the knock which has
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: had legitimacy on DSA and the Bernie wing more broadly
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: of the party, because not all these candids we are
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: talking about are technically DSA, but the knock on them
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: has been that they have been unable to reach outside
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: of this sort of like white activist space. Now, it's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: always been a bit of bullshit. Bernie, for example, did
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: really well with a multi racial cold, especially at the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: younger level. He won Latinos overwhelmingly, but older black voters
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: were and I think continue to be a genuine stumbling block,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: and so there was a lot of attacks on you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: just have these like college educated young white people, more
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: affluent that they can afford to sort of dabble in
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: these radical politics like this radical. Yeah, but it's like,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: you know, the the Brooklyn Commy Corridor, right, that was
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: sort of the that was the knock on DSA from
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: a coalition a coalitional perspective. Now you have a bunch
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: of right wingers like Stephen Miller and Matt Walsh and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Jesse Waters who are saying, oh, no, the problem is
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: that there's too many like black and brown immigrants who are.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: Voting for them.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: And obviously, you know, it's disgusting and it's racist, That's.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: What goes without saying.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: But I think it's noteworthy that they had to shift
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: because guess what the coalition is growing.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: You know, Daria Lasa's district, which.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Is one I actually used to live in and I'm
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: quite familiar with, And this is very diverse district. You
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: cannot win just with like Columbia students who are not
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: even there at the moment to come.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Out and vote.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Most of them are you know, home and schools not
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: in session. It is a you know, a very split
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: demographically district. You have to win a lot black voters.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: It looks like she want a majority of black voters.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: And even though.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Espaiot is the co chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: and thought he had a lock on the Dominican voters
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: in this district. She came very close to fifty to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: fifty with him, even with Hispanic voters in the district
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: was she got like forty seven percent. So as DSA grows,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: as you have more figures like Zoron that make it
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: less like a scary, weird radical.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Thing, it's really him.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: I mean he is so genuinely is a lot of it.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Because now when you think of this wing of politics,
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  Speaker 2: that's who you think of, and you're like, you're telling me,
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  Speaker 2: this guy's terrifying.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: And so you have a very different situation as that
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  Speaker 2: coalition grows and expands, and the limitations that existed previously
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: start to fall away, as you start to make inroads
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  Speaker 2: with a larger demographic group, and as the housing crunch
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: and all of the affordability crisis and the concerns over
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: the wars and all of these things hit home with everyone,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of your skin color or your background, even you know,
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  Speaker 2: increasingly up the income ladder, whether you're college educator or
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: non college educated, you're going to have more of a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: cohesive base that you could draw from.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's clear that DSA is learning a lot from
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: especially the Zorn exam. It's not the same DSA of
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  Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen by any means, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the right is at all prepared for what that means.
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  Speaker 1: I think voters, Mom, Donnie, I think played a really
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  Speaker 1: big role in giving voters like permission to feel, what's
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  Speaker 1: the best way to put it, like it was mainstream
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  Speaker 1: to get behind some of these different candidates that are
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: just treated as though they're not mainstream, and in some
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: cases they genuinely are not mainstream. Maybe in Brooklyn, but
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: if we're talking about the entire country, they're closer to
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  Speaker 1: the mainstream on questions like healthcare then a lot of
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: the quote unquote like centrists actually are. But I think
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: it was like a cultural permission instructor.
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  Speaker 4: It also looks like it's fun to be involved with.
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  Speaker 1: It, which is so different than twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like so different.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the cool kids are here, Like it looks
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  Speaker 2: like it would be fun to go out in canvas
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  Speaker 2: for a DSA candidate. And you know, that's one thing
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  Speaker 2: that he has really brought to as approach to government's
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: very communal approach, which actually, we can put up our
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: last piece here on the screen, puts C three up
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  Speaker 2: on the screen.
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  Speaker 4: So this is a tradition in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: The mayor always, I guess, shows up and jumps in
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  Speaker 2: the pool at the opening for the pool.
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  Speaker 4: Season in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: Zoron, I need to check with Sager how he's going
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  Speaker 2: to feel about this, because he wore a full suit
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  Speaker 2: and tie. Good check mark, but it's in violation of
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: the dress code for the swimming pool. So we get
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: an X on that from Sager. But in any case,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like a sort of silly way. It's
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: very consistent with his brand. It gets draws more attention
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: to this opening. New York Posts was very mad about
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: this funny to put those stuff.
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  Speaker 4: On the screen.
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  Speaker 2: They have found every way to try to knock this guy,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: and it just has become, you know, very memeable because
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: it's increasingly pathetic that things became picked to try to hit.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: And went, oh, he took a shoes off. That's good.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, that is good.
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  Speaker 2: So on, mom, Donnie jumps in New York City pool
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  Speaker 2: to kick off summer tradition while violating dress code rules.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, how dare you? But you know, it
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  Speaker 2: seems like he's having fun. It seems like the city's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: having fun. It seems like he could be part of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: something that is communal. I think zoron Mom Donnie may
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: just be the cure for the male loneliness epidem.
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  Speaker 1: Well do you remember last summer when he had the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: canvassing like scavenger hunt. Yeah, and it sounded so cringe
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: and then everybody I loved it. People turned out for it. Yes,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: it was like on a Saturday and it got like
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: hundreds of people out doing.
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  Speaker 2: His thousand you know, there were thousands of people doing
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  Speaker 2: this political scavenger.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. It was crazy. Yeah, and nobody saw it coming.
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  Speaker 2: But people are hungry for some sort of community, and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: you know, if they feel like they can get that
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: through Zoran through DSA, that's going to be a very
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: appealing selling point to Josha Piro, You don't think he
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: should write more of another manifesto.
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  Speaker 4: Than I could judge.
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  Speaker 1: Live readings of his manifesto.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we've reached out to you.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, we'll cover more of this promise to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: America Centrist Group with the manifesto, which is is very
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: interesting to me. We're trying to get somebody who actually
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: one of the representatives on the show to be able
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: to talk about it, so we'll see if that. If
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: that ends up happening, we'll skeptical they're going to join us,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: but we'll see.