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Review Mel Gibson on Joe Rogan Part 3 · Gil I Am

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Speaker 1: Good morning everybody.
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Speaker 2: This is Gil and today I'm going to bring you
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Speaker 2: the third and final part of the Mail Gibson Joe
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Speaker 2: Rogan interview. To say that I enjoyed this interview would
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Speaker 2: be an understatement. Mel Gibson is just one of those dudes.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 2: He has a quirky way about him that you just
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Speaker 2: have to like. And I like the honesty. There's no
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Speaker 2: predisposed agenda. This is his honest take on just about anything.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna review this well might I'll cut in
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Speaker 2: a little bit here and there, but this is the
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Speaker 2: third and final part of the Mail Gibson Joe Rogan Interview.
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Speaker 2: I'll hope you enjoy it, and i'll give you my
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Speaker 2: thoughts on it when it's completed later.
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Speaker 3: Without you having to know what to do. It was
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Speaker 3: a weird thing. He did it firstly with my son,
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Speaker 3: who he got him for a couple of weeks and
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Speaker 3: like he said, I'm about to show you something and
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Speaker 3: I went out there and he blindfolded me. He had
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Speaker 3: these two swords and he was doing all this, you know,
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Speaker 3: this crazy stuff. I'm like, what I said, how did he?
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Speaker 3: How did he learn that so fast? He said it
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Speaker 3: was in him, and I'm like, whoa, And then he
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Speaker 3: started to he started to do a thing that he
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Speaker 3: taught me how to harness this energy and to actually
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Speaker 3: begin what seemed to be almost like involuntary movement, and
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Speaker 3: depending on the hand mode you took, it would create
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Speaker 3: a style of kata or self defense. I used to
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Speaker 3: do like some I used to do a crude martial art,
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Speaker 3: not crude, but like a hard martial art. It was
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Speaker 3: cho kushenkai way back karate. Yeah, yeah, I think it's Korean.
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Speaker 4: It's Japanese it is, Yeah, I.
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Speaker 3: Can't remember, but it's like, you know, I didn't stick
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Speaker 3: with it, but it was. But but he he, he
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Speaker 3: got this whole other approach of breathing and visualizations that
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Speaker 3: would actually draw energy into your lower chakras and then you,
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Speaker 3: you know, you'd release the energy and it would create
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Speaker 3: this kind of movement. And I showed it to a
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Speaker 3: friend of mine who was a martial artist, and I said,
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Speaker 3: tell me about the footwork I'm doing here and what
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Speaker 3: I'm doing, and he looked at me, he says, that
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Speaker 3: looks really good to me. I said, it was kind
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Speaker 3: of like, what's that really soft kind of march? It
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Speaker 3: was like that I was doing stuff like that. It
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Speaker 3: was crazy and it was really a great release. But
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Speaker 3: it was about visualization and breath. Yeah, and the release
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Speaker 3: of those that energy that you pent up from all
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Speaker 3: around that you visualized coming manifesting itself in you.
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Speaker 4: There's got to be something to all that stuff. People
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Speaker 4: have been practicing tai chi for a long time. They
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be practicing to save movements for all these years
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Speaker 4: if it didn't do something.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty interesting. Yeah, it keeps people young and healthy.
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Speaker 3: They do it, and you see groups of people out
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Speaker 3: in Asia sort of out there in groups do it
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Speaker 3: all in unison. It's like it's a good thing. Exercise.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you do now for exercise?
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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I'm terrible. I've been I've come off, I'm
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Speaker 3: falling apart. I got this, I got dead dead guy's
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Speaker 3: parts of my shoulder. I've got, you know, cadaver parts.
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Speaker 3: And this shoulder fell apart. This shoulder fell, a hip,
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Speaker 3: a foot. Was terrible. I couldn't walk for about a
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Speaker 3: year almost really, and so you know, you fall down.
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Speaker 3: That's partially why I had to go and see Breck
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Speaker 3: at a sort of get the couch potato stuff off
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Speaker 3: but you know, I lift weights and I do some
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Speaker 3: you know, walking and stuff like that, like really get
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Speaker 3: your heart right up and stuff like that. So you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm trying. Hey, I'm you know, I'm sixty nine years old,
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Speaker 3: so it's like it's getting to be like seven decades
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Speaker 3: or you know. Yeah, but I want to stay fit
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Speaker 3: if I can.
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Speaker 2: So at this point, I didn't know that he had
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Speaker 2: any type of martial arts training. But I'm fifty five,
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Speaker 2: he's sixty nine. I fought professionally. I've had forty fifty
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Speaker 2: pro fights and boxing, MMA, tie boxing, kickboxing, and a
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Speaker 2: lot of people don't know that. But I don't make
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Speaker 2: that known because I don't find it a point of
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Speaker 2: conversation often. But I know what he means when he
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Speaker 2: says his body's breaking down. It just so happens that
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Speaker 2: my body's breaking down. But I'm still training and I'm
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Speaker 2: still participating hard sparring, I do jiu jitsu. But I
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Speaker 2: understand exactly where he's coming from. And more and the man,
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Speaker 2: the more and more I hear Mel Gibson, the more
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Speaker 2: I like about Mel Gibson. There's just something about him
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Speaker 2: that I just absolutely like.
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Speaker 3: So let's keep going I'm just you know, it's just
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Speaker 3: trying to push the old man off, and he's various
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Speaker 3: methods to do it, you know.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is. Keep the body as young
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Speaker 4: as he possibly can. Yeah, yeah, and demand a lot
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Speaker 4: from it. That's what I do. I just demand a
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Speaker 4: lot and make sure I recover.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it's about meditation too. You know,
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Speaker 3: you can actually get into a good headspace that kind
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Speaker 3: of cools you out and stops the stress even no
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Speaker 3: matter what's going on. I'm gonna have to do it
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Speaker 3: tonight when I find out whether I still have a
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Speaker 3: home or not.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, if anything looks demonic, it's the fires in
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Speaker 4: Los Angeles. I remember one time we were filming Fear
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Speaker 4: Factor and we had to drive home. We had to
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Speaker 4: cancel a shoot or ended early and drive home because
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Speaker 4: the fires had hit. And this is like up. We
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Speaker 4: were off the five and driving home for fifty minutes
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Speaker 4: on the highway. The right side of the highway was
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Speaker 4: in flames, like Lord of the Rings, like saurn Is
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Speaker 4: coming over the top. It looked fucking insane. Looks it's biblical.
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Speaker 4: It looks insane.
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Speaker 3: And you got to be careful too, because You could
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Speaker 3: die if you can't breathe, or if the car in
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Speaker 3: front of you catch fire and the wind blows this
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Speaker 3: way and all the cars catch fire and you can't
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Speaker 3: get off the road because to the right of you's
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Speaker 3: on fire, to the left us on fire, and the
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Speaker 3: fire's coming up the highway.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, people have died that way, and.
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Speaker 3: It can happen to any YEP. I got hung once
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Speaker 3: by mistake, and it was I was on a film
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Speaker 3: set and I was had my neck and a noose
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Speaker 3: and I was directing the film, so I was I'm
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Speaker 3: on a ladder and I'm like, so, I'll just be
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Speaker 3: hanging here like this man. And then the next thing
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Speaker 3: I knew, I was waking up. I was on the floor,
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 2: So that's what I'm talking about, how quirky meil Gibson is.
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Speaker 2: He goes from talking about the biblical look of the
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Speaker 2: fires too, and Joe rogues explaining what happened to him
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Speaker 2: on his way home, and Meil Gibson just automatically just
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Speaker 2: switches gears and goes, I got hung up.
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Speaker 1: I got hung on a movie set once.
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Speaker 2: And it's just that quirkiness in this guy that just
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Speaker 2: absolutely makes me like, like love it.
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Speaker 1: He's just there's something about him. Man.
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Speaker 3: We did I was fortunate enough to work with with
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Speaker 3: Horry on Gracie thirty nine years ago. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 3: he'd just come from Brazil. Well, I remember when you
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Speaker 3: were doing Lethal Weapon. It was the first time I'd
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Speaker 3: ever seen jiu jitsu in a movie, a leg choke
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Speaker 3: on film. Yeah, he taught Yeah, Horriyan taught me. The
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Speaker 3: leg jokes to you grab your foot and you okay,
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Speaker 3: and it was it was cool, but it was. Now
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Speaker 3: my girlfriend does it, and she's like a purple belt,
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Speaker 3: so I've really yeah, I've learned.
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Speaker 4: Not to talk about she's legit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's legit purple belts.
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Speaker 4: Purple belt is basically a black belt. You just need
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Speaker 4: a little bit more time.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 4: If you can get I always tell all jiu jitsu students,
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Speaker 4: if you can get the purple belt, you are a
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Speaker 4: black belt. You're going to be a black belt.
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Speaker 3: Oh she will.
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Speaker 4: You just got to stay on that path.
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Speaker 3: No, she is, she's obsessed with it and she's you know,
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Speaker 3: as I say, I don't talk back to her.
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Speaker 4: I think the purple belt is the hardest belt to
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Speaker 4: get to. It is because it's just like in the beginning,
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Speaker 4: you're just getting crushed. That's jiu jitsu, especially for women.
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Speaker 4: It's so difficult for women because they don't have the
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Speaker 4: physical strength that the men have. Because you can kind
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Speaker 4: of get away with a lot if you're a big,
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Speaker 4: strong guy, you can get away with a lot of shit.
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Speaker 4: But then by the time you get the purple belt,
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Speaker 4: like man, you have to have real technique and you
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Speaker 4: have to have a real understanding of what's going on.
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Speaker 3: She got a good mind, and I think she's like
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Speaker 3: like a chess player. M It is like that because
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Speaker 3: I know from fighting with her she wins arguments when
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Speaker 3: she's wrong.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes you let them win though, right you have to
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Speaker 4: just like you gotta walk away.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sometimes you gotta go Okay, it's my second
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Speaker 3: thought on my first action.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, but she got the
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Speaker 4: purple belt. That's amazing.
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Speaker 3: Good for her, it's good for her.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a woman black belt. That's an unbelievably exceptional woman.
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Speaker 4: They can get to that because they have to roll
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Speaker 4: with men, and it's just well, she needs to get
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Speaker 4: a disadvantage dudes, and.
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Speaker 3: And she's like, you know, she she's done some exceptional
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Speaker 3: things I've heard, so it's like, yeah, it's pretty.
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Speaker 4: Good, that's awesome.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't follow it up. You can
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Speaker 3: still do it now. I'm a more baseball bat gun
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Speaker 3: kind of guy. I'm in trouble edge just like you
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Speaker 3: know that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 4: Well, be careful with that. In California. You can't wind
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Speaker 4: up being in jail.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 4: You wind up using it to protect yourself and they'll
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Speaker 4: lock you up.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's which is also evil. Yeah, that happens a bit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah m hm, oh well it's yeah, there's a perverse
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Speaker 3: nature in our society right now with the law.
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Speaker 4: And when you look at your life now and you're
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Speaker 4: on your third act, as you're saying, like, what what
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Speaker 4: do you look forward to these days? Is it creating things?
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Speaker 4: It's creation?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it is. It's about creation. And
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Speaker 3: I figure I'm not I'm pretty average at most things,
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Speaker 3: but I'm good at a couple of things. You know.
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Speaker 3: I know how to tell a story on film. I
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Speaker 3: know how to do that.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what.
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Speaker 3: That's a weird place to be, but I think a
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Speaker 3: lot can be achieved by art an image, and you
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Speaker 3: can convey a lot without actually having to say it.
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Speaker 3: You can do things to affect people emotionally or spiritually,
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Speaker 3: even without being overt. I always like to reference just
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Speaker 3: a shot that and it's in a Ridley Scott movie, right,
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Speaker 3: and you don't know why it works but or why
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Speaker 3: it's effective on some level, but it's kind of a
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Speaker 3: profound effective shot. And it's that first shot in the
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Speaker 3: Gladiator movie where he's running his hand over the wheat,
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Speaker 3: right with that music and stuff. Why does that work?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, you can't explain it, but it works well.
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Speaker 4: Really, Scott is a master. Yeah, that's a that's a
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Speaker 4: visionary human being. He sees things, he knows how to shoot. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 4: and that is that's really good.
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Speaker 3: It's a valid pursuit I think in storytelling. If you
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Speaker 3: can do that everything every time he goes out there,
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Speaker 3: it's a it's eye candy. It's a feast for the eyes,
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 4: Do you have different goals with like different projects, Like
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Speaker 4: obviously flight Risk is entertainment. It's fun.
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Speaker 3: It's entertainment. Yeah, and yes, different goals And it was
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Speaker 3: the other thing too, is it's like we're living in
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Speaker 3: a different time now in the film world. I mean,
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Speaker 3: everything's upside down and you have to compete in a
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Speaker 3: medium where you have less time, less money, do it fast,
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Speaker 3: do it now, And it's like, wow, can I do that?
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Speaker 3: I always had the luxury of, like, you know, a
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Speaker 3: big budget and three thousand people on horses and all
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Speaker 3: this kind of stuff or you know, and was able
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Speaker 3: to take my time with stuff. But I had twenty
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Speaker 3: two days, and here you got to tell the story
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Speaker 3: in twenty two days. So I felt the challenge of
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Speaker 3: being able to do that and being able to make
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Speaker 3: something that really got people that they could watch it
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Speaker 3: and enjoy it, you know. And I'm glad you saw it.
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Speaker 3: I'm glad you liked it. And that's all I want.
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Speaker 3: I just want people to have a nice little ride
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Speaker 3: of fun ride entertainment. But yes, you have different goals
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Speaker 3: with things. I mean, the next thing I'm going to
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Speaker 3: tackle is more profound for me. It's going to take
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Speaker 3: more out of me.
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Speaker 4: This is the Resurrection story.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I even have to change my entire life
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Speaker 3: to do it. How so, you can't go into a
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Speaker 3: project as profound in nature as that without somehow preparing
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Speaker 3: yourself for it. It's like it's like preparing for a fight.
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Speaker 3: It's like you have to be fit for the fight.
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Speaker 3: And yes, so you have to spiritually prepare yourself for that.
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Speaker 3: And and that's that's going to take some sacrifice. And
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Speaker 3: because you know, well, you know, I profess this, and
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Speaker 3: I profess that I'm not a great example of Christianity.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm just you know, I'm flawed and I
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Speaker 3: make a lot of mistakes. But I have to try
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Speaker 3: and be better somehow in order to go in and
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Speaker 3: make that film. So what does that mean? I think
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Speaker 3: I know what it means. You know.
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Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that I thought was fascinating
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Speaker 4: was reading and listening to Jim Caviezel talk about his
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Speaker 4: experience playing Christ in your film.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just truly.
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Speaker 4: Change that guy's the course of his whole life.
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Speaker 3: Well, it was fascinating to watch him work, actually, and
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Speaker 3: most of the time I just like backed away because
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Speaker 3: he was doing something that And I've seen a lot
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Speaker 3: of people portray Jesus in films, right, and I never
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Speaker 3: buy it. You can't quite buy it. Something creeps in
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Speaker 3: the color, that's not something, something's not right or discordant.
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Speaker 3: And some of them are pretty good, but you never
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Speaker 3: quite believe it all the way.
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Speaker 4: What was the Woolen defa movie?
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Speaker 3: Oh? That was a Scorsese film, right? What was that
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Speaker 3: called The Last Temptation? That's right, that's right, which, interestingly enough,
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Speaker 3: I was in a hotel in the Savoy and I
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Speaker 3: had food poisoning. I was near dead from I ate
14:32
Speaker 3: a bad oyster in London and I was dying in
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Speaker 3: a hotel room and I couldn't even leave. It was
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Speaker 3: the worst. I think it was like salmonella or something.
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Speaker 3: And I saw this cord on the side of the
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Speaker 3: bed and I pulled it and all of a sudden
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Speaker 3: a door opened up in a butler like Jeeves came in.
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Speaker 3: He says, yes, sir, and I'm like, whoa. I said,
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Speaker 3: I'm really sick. I said, what do you think I
14:56
Speaker 3: should eat? Might I suggests some warm cums me in
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Speaker 3: a cup of He said, okay. So this butler took
15:03
Speaker 3: care of me in this hotel. But while I was there,
15:05
Speaker 3: says he calls the room and she says, came here,
15:07
Speaker 3: I want to talk here. So I go in and
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Speaker 3: talk to Martin and he's in his room and all
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Speaker 3: the windows, the screens are drawn. He's got eighteen different
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Speaker 3: TVs going on at the same time in this dark room,
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Speaker 3: and he's talking to me about the Last Temptation of
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Speaker 3: Christ and he wants me to play Jesus and I said, whoa,
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Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. And I sort of got out
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Speaker 3: of there, and then I went back to my room
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Speaker 3: and they changed my room. Now this is really weird.
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Speaker 3: They had changed my room and moved my stuff, and
15:38
Speaker 3: they told me they were going to do it, but
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Speaker 3: I forgot. So I'm using a key to get into
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Speaker 3: my room and it won't work, and the door opens
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Speaker 3: up all of a sudden, and it's Keith Richards in
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Speaker 3: this underpants standing there staring through me like, and there's
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Speaker 3: a girl in a mink coat walking around a mink
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Speaker 3: coat and nothing else walking in the background, and Keith
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Speaker 3: Richard's standing there in his underpants with a spliff, and
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I tried to explain that I thought it
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Speaker 3: was my room, but it wasn't you know. It was ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: I'm twenty six years old. And he just looks at
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Speaker 3: me like he shuts the door in my face. I said, well,
16:13
Speaker 3: that was my that was my meeting with Keith Richards.
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Speaker 3: He slammed the door in my face. So I was like,
16:18
Speaker 3: it's fantastic, you know anyway, But what he's he did
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Speaker 3: something I think that nobody else did. And I think
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Speaker 3: he pulled it off because I totally like believed it.
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Speaker 4: I believed it too.
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Speaker 3: And it was like, what did he do? He emptied
16:35
Speaker 3: himself out, Yeah, and he invited something else in and
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Speaker 3: he left it. He just he didn't try anything. He
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Speaker 3: just he emptied himself out and he meditated and he
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Speaker 3: let christ in.
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Speaker 4: That role seemed to have had a profound effect on him.
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Speaker 3: It did as a human being, oh absolutely, and.
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Speaker 4: Kind of fucked him up in his career a little
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Speaker 4: bit because people associated him entirely with that film, and
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Speaker 4: then they associated him with Christianity, and then they associated
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Speaker 4: him with right wing politics.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, and then you know, he got sidetracked
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Speaker 3: by a few guys. I mean there's some people out there,
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Speaker 3: like they're get in your ear and it's like Cassius,
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Speaker 3: you know, talking about right and they get you to
17:22
Speaker 3: just make a speech somewhere and then you know it's
17:24
Speaker 3: like you know, people throwing eggs act Yeah, and you wonder,
17:28
Speaker 3: you know, should I even be saying this? And so
17:32
Speaker 3: he stepped on a bunch of land mines. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: it did have a profound effect on him. But I
17:38
Speaker 3: think he was he was already mostly there anyway, And
17:42
Speaker 3: I noticed that because I when I was trying to
17:44
Speaker 3: cast that, I thought, who could play this? And I
17:46
Speaker 3: saw the opening shot from Terry Mallick's film, which is
17:49
Speaker 3: The Thin Red Line, and it was just a big
17:55
Speaker 3: close up of the feasil and there was something otherworldly
17:59
Speaker 3: and childlike going on there in the close up, and
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Speaker 3: I thought, who's that guy? He's amazing. Of course, he
18:05
Speaker 3: couldn't keep the blue eyes. He had to he had
18:07
Speaker 3: to trade him out, so I changed the color of
18:09
Speaker 3: his eyes to brown and and all that stuff, so
18:12
Speaker 3: it looked like he came from the region, right, But
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Speaker 3: amazing what he already had a quality and ethereal kind
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Speaker 3: of otherworldingness, space cadet quality. Yeah, and he's still kind
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Speaker 3: of liked that.
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Speaker 4: He's still like, wow, Yeah, he's won. I wish I
18:32
Speaker 4: had met him, or I haven't met him still, but
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Speaker 4: I wish i'd seen him before. And then after you
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Speaker 4: had to see, like what did that role change him?
18:42
Speaker 4: Because it seemed to have strengthened his faith.
18:44
Speaker 3: Sure, it did. Yeah, yeah, he got He got in
18:47
Speaker 3: real type with it, and I think he had some
18:49
Speaker 3: experiences while he was doing it. He suffered a little,
18:54
Speaker 3: you know.
18:54
Speaker 4: And then he had struck by lightning.
18:56
Speaker 3: Well there's two times there was these lightning strikes happening
18:59
Speaker 3: on that, you know, And there was this guy with him.
19:04
Speaker 3: He was a young fella, one of the assistants on
19:06
Speaker 3: the film. His name was Yan and old Jan was like,
19:11
Speaker 3: he's like six foot two Italian, Northern Italian guy. You know,
19:15
Speaker 3: if he tripped in the street, women would slide under him,
19:18
Speaker 3: you know. It was that kind of stuff. The guy
19:20
Speaker 3: was like a babe magnet, right, and I think he
19:24
Speaker 3: was taking full advantage of the gifts he had. But
19:28
Speaker 3: he got hit by lightning. The first time getting people.
19:31
Speaker 3: We were out on the hill and there was a
19:32
Speaker 3: lightning storm like with the crosses and stuff.
19:35
Speaker 4: Oh Jesus.
19:35
Speaker 3: And this guy called Chieppo. He was a grip and
19:40
Speaker 3: he never spoke a word to me the whole time.
19:42
Speaker 3: He's just a quiet kind of guy. And I figured, oh,
19:45
Speaker 3: he doesn't know English, you know. But he came up
19:48
Speaker 3: to me and in perfect English, he said, you know,
19:51
Speaker 3: I think you should get all the people off the hill,
19:53
Speaker 3: we could be struck by lightning. And I thought, oh,
19:55
Speaker 3: that's a good idea. Let's get off the hill. So
19:57
Speaker 3: we're moving off the hill, everybody's getting off, and this
20:01
Speaker 3: kid gets hit through the umbrella. This Yon guy, he
20:04
Speaker 3: gets zapped by lightning. Right, but he's twenty two, and
20:07
Speaker 3: he goes to the disco all night and Dad, ut,
20:11
Speaker 3: you know, he's doing the whole you know, twenty two experience.
20:15
Speaker 3: And he comes back next day he's like, yeah, it
20:17
Speaker 3: was great. And then he was with Jim the second
20:20
Speaker 3: time it happened. But this time I found him in
20:23
Speaker 3: a Fiat bambino with his knees up around his ears,
20:26
Speaker 3: like waiting for the third strike. He was like this,
20:29
Speaker 3: this just doesn't happen twice in the third strike and
20:32
Speaker 3: he says, I have to change my life.
20:36
Speaker 4: So it was prediling. That movie must have had a
20:39
Speaker 4: profound effect on a lot of people, right, yeah, because
20:42
Speaker 4: you were doing something that wasn't just a film. It
20:46
Speaker 4: was yeah, verite kind of yeah, and it was strengthening
20:51
Speaker 4: people's faith. That film was a I mean profound success,
20:55
Speaker 4: and a lot of people dismissed the idea of it,
20:57
Speaker 4: even you know, especially in Hollywood. I mean you had
21:00
Speaker 4: a self.
21:00
Speaker 3: Fund all that, right, Yes, it was self funded. And
21:04
Speaker 3: it was a very strange experience, that one because I
21:07
Speaker 3: put the money and I thought, well, maybe I'll break even.
21:10
Speaker 3: And it was then I got these messages back all
21:13
Speaker 3: the majors wouldn't distribute it. So I was thinking, nobody
21:17
Speaker 3: will distribute it. Okay, I guess I've I've lost you know,
21:21
Speaker 3: the money, but it was worth the experience. And so
21:26
Speaker 3: one guy was left in the room at the end
21:28
Speaker 3: when the when the dust settled. It was some guy
21:30
Speaker 3: he I'll distribute. And he had a little company called
21:33
Speaker 3: New Market and they distributed like one or two films before,
21:37
Speaker 3: and I think it was a Charlie's Thoron movie called
21:41
Speaker 3: a Monster about that horrible serial.
21:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And.
21:45
Speaker 3: He said I'll do it, and you know, it was
21:48
Speaker 3: just really basics. I went and I met the exhibitors
21:53
Speaker 3: and you know, and this guy was like the distributor.
21:56
Speaker 3: This little company was just him and a toothless dog
21:59
Speaker 3: and a fax and an assistant and it was like, okay,
22:02
Speaker 3: what's all the smoke and mirrors about this? With between
22:05
Speaker 3: the distribution and exhibition I met, I made handshake deals
22:08
Speaker 3: with all the exhibitors. Yeah, we'll show this, I said, okay,
22:13
Speaker 3: and then we put it out there and it went out.
22:16
Speaker 3: Nobody expected it to do much, but it did phenomenally well.
22:20
Speaker 3: And and there was this kind of thing in town.
22:26
Speaker 3: In the town, they said, did anyone just see that?
22:29
Speaker 3: Then we'll just see what that guy did. Can't let
22:32
Speaker 3: that guy do that again? And yeah, we don't want
22:35
Speaker 3: anyone doing that, you know, because it sort of walked
22:38
Speaker 3: around the entire system yes and scored.
22:43
Speaker 4: Right. So there was two things. There was resistance to
22:45
Speaker 4: the Christianity aspect of it and promotion of Christianity, and
22:49
Speaker 4: then there was resistance to the fact that you went
22:51
Speaker 4: outside the system.
22:53
Speaker 3: Well, I had no alternative, right, because no major would.
22:56
Speaker 4: Back it because of the Christianity aspect of it.
22:58
Speaker 3: I guess yeah. Well, Rubert Murdoch said, you know, he
23:00
Speaker 3: wanted to and then he said yeah, and then somebody
23:04
Speaker 3: advised him and said he'd be out of business in
23:06
Speaker 3: five years. Rubert Murdoch, Wow, in five years if he
23:09
Speaker 3: distributed that, if he yeah, And I was like, wow,
23:12
Speaker 3: if he's scared, what I'm like, I'm gotta I'm gonna
23:15
Speaker 3: crash and burn here. But it actually did.
23:17
Speaker 4: All right, it did phenomenal.
23:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then again I tried to uh and I went,
23:23
Speaker 3: I went with a studio on Apocalypto, but and that
23:26
Speaker 3: didn't work out so.
23:26
Speaker 4: Well, it didn't Well.
23:29
Speaker 3: It was interesting. The film was a film with it
23:34
Speaker 3: had no stars, it was in another language, and it
23:39
Speaker 3: came out on a weekend with another film that had
23:43
Speaker 3: Leo Leo in it, and another film that had Cameron
23:46
Speaker 3: Diaz in it. And so those three films came out
23:51
Speaker 3: on the same weekend, and the one with no stars
23:53
Speaker 3: and without the language won the weekend monetarily, it won
23:57
Speaker 3: the box office by a narrow mark margin on the
24:01
Speaker 3: other two. And the second week out, Disney pulled the
24:06
Speaker 3: screens real yeah, so I thought, oh, that's funny, Well,
24:12
Speaker 3: screens are gone. I guess there's another agenda because that
24:18
Speaker 3: was another self funded one.
24:19
Speaker 4: Did they pull the screens because they had movies that
24:21
Speaker 4: they had already made deals with?
24:23
Speaker 3: I think so, But you know, it's just it's just politics,
24:26
Speaker 3: and you know, and I think perhaps the distribution deal
24:31
Speaker 3: on that wasn't as good as right something else or
24:34
Speaker 3: you know, so it's you know, it's all business.
24:36
Speaker 4: It's a phenomenal movie though.
24:38
Speaker 3: It's a great film. Yeah, and it did better afterwards.
24:41
Speaker 4: In DVD and streaming and all that.
24:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did well.
24:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.
24:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
24:46
Speaker 4: I watched it again like two years ago. Yeah, I
24:48
Speaker 4: hadn't seen it in a while, and I watched it again,
24:50
Speaker 4: and I forgot a bunch of aspects of were like, god, damn,
24:52
Speaker 4: it's a good movie.
24:53
Speaker 3: It's just primal, yes, And I think I love primitive stuff,
24:57
Speaker 3: you know, and primal emotions. I mean, basically, it's a
25:02
Speaker 3: guy just trying to get back home to save his
25:04
Speaker 3: wife and kid, and he's got a lot of obstacles
25:07
Speaker 3: in the way, like jaguars and bad guys chasing him
25:10
Speaker 3: and trying to skin him and trying to rip his heart. Yeah,
25:14
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool.
25:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
25:16
Speaker 3: And I sat in a room with my assistant. He said,
25:18
Speaker 3: what do you want to do next to Chase movie?
25:20
Speaker 3: I said, He said, well, so we found out where
25:23
Speaker 3: the Mayan canoes and Columbus and all that, and then
25:25
Speaker 3: we just started making the story up in the room
25:28
Speaker 3: and we wrote it. Wow. Yeah, some assistant man. He
25:33
Speaker 3: actually wrote he actually tapped it out.
25:35
Speaker 4: Hmmm.
25:36
Speaker 3: Crazy.
25:38
Speaker 4: So when you're making this Resurrection movie. Now you also
25:43
Speaker 4: have this obligation. There's this you're doing a very similar
25:48
Speaker 4: thing that you were doing with the Passion of the Christ,
25:51
Speaker 4: where this is this is a profound story. Yes, when
25:55
Speaker 4: you put something like that together, how do you choose
25:57
Speaker 4: who's going to be the next Jesus? You use him again, CAVISO. Yeah,
26:02
Speaker 4: I know it's twenty years later. It's twenty years later,
26:05
Speaker 4: but yeah, but it's the right guy.
26:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's supposed to be three days later,
26:10
Speaker 3: but he got twenty years older. And I think I
26:15
Speaker 3: have to use a few techniques that they've started to
26:18
Speaker 3: get really good with the CGI.
26:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm gonna pause it right there for one second.
26:23
Speaker 4: Listen.
26:24
Speaker 2: If he does the movie about the Resurrection, which is
26:28
Speaker 2: hopefully he gets to that point that he does it,
26:32
Speaker 2: I will watch it, no doubt whatsoever.
26:35
Speaker 1: Here's my only issue. Passion of the Christ. We watched
26:39
Speaker 1: it in.
26:40
Speaker 2: The theater and it was disturbing. I've never watched it again.
26:46
Speaker 2: I've seen it one time. I've never seen it again.
26:51
Speaker 2: It was that disturbing to me. It hurt my heart.
26:55
Speaker 2: It made me feel something that was just an immaculate
27:00
Speaker 2: made movie and to be honest with you, I think
27:03
Speaker 2: I want to watch it again.
27:05
Speaker 1: So today is a good day.
27:06
Speaker 2: I think tonight, when I'm laying in bed, I might
27:09
Speaker 2: put it on and watch it.
27:11
Speaker 1: But that is one movie that I loved.
27:13
Speaker 2: I thought it was excellent, but I only watched it
27:16
Speaker 2: one time in the theaters and I've never watched it
27:18
Speaker 2: again because I thought it was that disturbing. Anyway, the
27:22
Speaker 2: plans are to do a movie with The Resurrection. I
27:26
Speaker 2: think he would get the funding for that, and that
27:28
Speaker 2: would be just an immaculate blockbuster, so let's continue.
27:32
Speaker 3: I have ideas about how to do that, and ideas
27:36
Speaker 3: about how to evoke things and emotions in people from
27:42
Speaker 3: the way you depict it and the way you shoot it.
27:45
Speaker 3: So I've been thinking about it for a long time.
27:49
Speaker 3: So it's not going to be easy, and it's going
27:51
Speaker 3: to require a lot of planning, and I'm not wholly
27:58
Speaker 3: sure I can pull it off. To tell you the truth,
28:00
Speaker 3: it's really super ambitious. But I'll take a crack at
28:04
Speaker 3: it because that's what you got to do, right, walk
28:06
Speaker 3: up to the plate, right. So I think I can
28:10
Speaker 3: get it. But it's not about me, you know, It's
28:15
Speaker 3: about something else.
28:17
Speaker 4: Well, if anybody can do it, you can do it.
28:19
Speaker 3: Well, I hope. So, yeah, it's it's a it's trying
28:23
Speaker 3: to find that the way in that's not like cheesy
28:28
Speaker 3: or obvious, but that actually it's almost like a magic
28:32
Speaker 3: trick in a sense. It's diversion. It's obfuscate this show
28:39
Speaker 3: that look over here, you know, I don't.
28:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's do you have a title?
28:46
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, it's just like the Resurrection of the Christ.
28:49
Speaker 4: Hmm.
28:50
Speaker 3: It's like, so that's a title, and yeah, it's uh,
28:58
Speaker 3: it's very ambitious, that's all I'll say. It just it
29:01
Speaker 3: took a long time to write. It's really ambitious and
29:03
Speaker 3: it goes from like the Fall of the Angels to
29:05
Speaker 3: the death of the Last Apostle.
29:07
Speaker 4: Do you have a start date?
29:09
Speaker 3: I don't have a start date. I just have to
29:11
Speaker 3: begin pre production and see what happens. And it's it's
29:16
Speaker 3: just going to roll in its own time. It's taken
29:19
Speaker 3: its own time. I thought it was late. I think
29:21
Speaker 3: taking too long. It's taken too long, but it's probably
29:24
Speaker 3: just right. Yeah, it's when it's supposed to be.
29:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, well if you believe that that's true. Yeah, yeah,
29:32
Speaker 4: I don't know.
29:33
Speaker 3: I hope you're right.
29:34
Speaker 4: I think my int are that I'm right.
29:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
29:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if I was going to trust anybody with
29:39
Speaker 4: that story, it would be you.
29:41
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. It's a massive thing, and theologically
29:47
Speaker 3: it's it's something that you have to really look at
29:52
Speaker 3: and make correlations that that ring true, because it's not
30:05
Speaker 3: all written.
30:07
Speaker 4: Do you consult with someone like a biblical scholar?
30:10
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh my goodness, yeah yeah yeah. And
30:14
Speaker 3: of course you know, there's your own a thing that
30:18
Speaker 3: comes into it from having read the book a few times.
30:22
Speaker 3: You read the book a few times, and it's amazing
30:27
Speaker 3: how your memory, how there's these recessive files somewhere in
30:30
Speaker 3: the background, how you can correlate this piece to that
30:33
Speaker 3: piece over there. And that's important because juxtaposition is everything
30:37
Speaker 3: with this story and what it means in a bigger picture.
30:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.
30:46
Speaker 3: So it's hard to explain, but it's quite involved.
30:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I can only imagine.
30:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know that you can do it
30:54
Speaker 3: in a foreign language because the concepts are too difficult now,
30:58
Speaker 3: so that you may have to resort to the vernacular.
31:02
Speaker 3: So that that at least is clear.
31:06
Speaker 4: Is that up for debate right now with you?
31:08
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. I'm thinking like, eh, but look have
31:11
Speaker 3: you seen these apps now where they have this AI
31:14
Speaker 3: stuff where the guy's talking German and then he switches
31:16
Speaker 3: to French and then he's Spanish and then Chinese. Have
31:19
Speaker 3: you seen that? And his mouth moves and it's the
31:22
Speaker 3: same voice. I mean, it's crazy what they do.
31:25
Speaker 4: So, so are you going to use that kind of
31:27
Speaker 4: a tool you think you could? Will you begin it
31:30
Speaker 4: in Aramaic or in Hebrew?
31:33
Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah? Arameic is really the kick, isn't it? But
31:37
Speaker 3: you know, I think I think I'll write I've written
31:40
Speaker 3: it in English, but I wrote the last one in
31:43
Speaker 3: English too and translated it. But and then the people
31:47
Speaker 3: had to learn to speak it because there was I
31:50
Speaker 3: think there's only about four hundred people that actually speak Aramaics. Wow,
31:54
Speaker 3: and apparently they understood it. So I was happy about that. Wow,
31:57
Speaker 3: So that was good. Yeah, four thousand people. Sorry, that
32:02
Speaker 3: makes more sense.
32:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I've like to preserve those four hundred people.
32:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, not many people speaking Latin still, but but that's
32:11
Speaker 3: quite well known.
32:12
Speaker 4: Well, I can't wait to see it, man. And I
32:16
Speaker 4: just want to say I appreciate you very much all
32:18
Speaker 4: all the stuff that you've done. You've made some really
32:22
Speaker 4: awesome pieces in your life. You really have. Thanks. Yeah, yeah, thanks,
32:27
Speaker 4: some great stuff.
32:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm blown away by where you got to
32:32
Speaker 3: with this, which is like, didn't you start off just
32:36
Speaker 3: smoking a spliff on a couch with a guy?
32:38
Speaker 4: And yeah?
32:40
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah it's amazing.
32:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty bizarre.
32:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
32:44
Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sure how it happened.
32:46
Speaker 3: No, that's good.
32:47
Speaker 4: I just kind of kept doing it.
32:48
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, I'm a fan.
32:51
Speaker 4: Thank you.
32:51
Speaker 3: I watch it all the time.
32:53
Speaker 4: Thank you. There was no plan to do it, I'll
32:55
Speaker 4: tell you that. No, it still kind of isn't. I
32:59
Speaker 4: still kind of do it the same way.
33:00
Speaker 3: Okay, every day you wake up.
33:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just look at my phone. I'll go online.
33:05
Speaker 4: I say, who do I want to talk to?
33:07
Speaker 1: Yeah?
33:07
Speaker 4: This guy might be interesting?
33:08
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay that's really who's next? You get some
33:13
Speaker 3: pretty interesting people. Yeah. I was amazed at that. I
33:20
Speaker 3: can't remember his name now, Terrence what he's all into?
33:24
Speaker 4: Terrence Howard? Yeah, yeah, the actor.
33:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a bunch of stuff going on.
33:28
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, yeah, oh he's out there.
33:31
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, So the interview is almost over, but
33:35
Speaker 2: I'm gonna interrupt right there. Terrence Howard, if you haven't
33:39
Speaker 2: seen his interviews on YouTube or anywhere else, this guy
33:44
Speaker 2: is a freaky smart, intelligent guy who's trying to rewrite
33:50
Speaker 2: mathematical principles. He's just amazing. So if you get a chance,
33:57
Speaker 2: I'm gonna plug this one. If you get a chance,
34:00
Speaker 2: listen to Terrence Howard's interview with Joe Rogan and in Actuality.
34:05
Speaker 2: I am going to review that one next because if
34:09
Speaker 2: you haven't heard it, you need to hear it.
34:12
Speaker 3: And it's so interesting.
34:13
Speaker 2: Because as great of an actor as this guy is,
34:16
Speaker 2: he is brilliant, mathematically, brilliant with scientific principles. I mean,
34:21
Speaker 2: it's just something that you can't even he would never
34:24
Speaker 2: expect from him. So we don't have much longer in
34:27
Speaker 2: the interview. Let's listen to the rest of it. I
34:29
Speaker 2: just wanted to chime in on.
34:30
Speaker 4: That he's out there, but I mean, you have to
34:34
Speaker 4: be to be one of those guys you do well. Listen, brother,
34:38
Speaker 4: thank you very much for everything. Appreciate you coming in here. Yeah, thanks,
34:41
Speaker 4: thank you, thank you, thank you. Your new movie is
34:43
Speaker 4: great and all your stuff's great. I'm a big fan.
34:46
Speaker 3: So take a ton sale today.
34:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, when does it come out?
34:49
Speaker 3: Oh? God? Don the twenty fourth things?
34:53
Speaker 4: Okay, so soon?
34:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun.
34:56
Speaker 4: It is fun. I enjoyed it all right, thank you
34:59
Speaker 4: very much.
35:01
Speaker 2: And there you have it. That is the end of it.
35:03
Speaker 2: This is part three. It's over with now. If you
35:07
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35:09
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35:11
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35:18
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35:33
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35:35
Speaker 3: Later