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Episode 28 | Monday Night Rewind | Chloe Mazzagatti | Hailey Boal | Flipper Kyle Trinklein · Top Row Racing Media Monday Night Rewind

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  What's up, race fans? And welcome to the Monday Night
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  Rewind presented by Federated Auto Parts and Elh detailing
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  live on top of Racing Media, your weekly interview show for
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  the people, for everybody in Michiana Motorsports tonight,
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  another great guest lineup right off a great performance at the
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  Kalamazoo Clash. At 7:05, we have the 87 of Chloe
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  Mazigotti joining us on the Monday Night Rewind.
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  Following her will be recently crowned new Paris Speedway St.
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  Stock Champion Haley Bowl at 7:40 PM.
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  And at 8:05 PM or 8:10 PM, excuse me, it'll be Kyle
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  Trinkline. And I'm going to be learning a
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  lot about Kyle Trinkline tonight.
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  So yeah, excited for our lineup. Another stacked one.
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  Once again, I'm joined as always by Louis Noakes.
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  How are we doing tonight, Louis? Catching up on a lot, but we're
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  pushing through. So it's a Monday, it's time to
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  rewind, right. So it was a a long weekend, 4
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  out of the five days at racetrack doing something.
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  So Sabrina BB2, I want to give a big shout out to Sabrina.
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  She's a you know, she's a hard worker.
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  She's really dedicated at Kalamazoo.
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  She has to manage a lot at one time.
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  You know, she's the she's kind of turned into the photographer.
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  Kalamazoo doesn't have an official track photographer, but
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  there are many nights if it weren't for her, there would be
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  no photos. So, you know, she does the
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  photos, but what she was originally there for is to help
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  with on boards. That's what she really came to
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  Kalamazoo this year to help with And so she's taking that on and
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  as being a rock star with that doesn't, you know, doesn't miss
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  a whole lot. And then she's of course the
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  photographer Galesburg. So I know they had their
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  championship on Saturday and then she was back with and she's
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  at Corrigan with me on Friday and and then she was at back at
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  the mini wedges for Kalamazoo on Sunday.
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  So she too had a four out of five days.
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  And so I know she has a lot going on.
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  So that's where she's getting ready to move.
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  So that's where I definitely thank her and we'll be back at
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  it again on Friday. We got season championship at
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  Kalamazoo. Couple are still up for grabs
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  and then they'll have night destruction at Galesburg.
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  New Paris will have the Sizzler and then we'll both be back at
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  Corgan on Sunday. So for the harvest.
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  So it just keeps on grinding, right?
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  It's that time of the year. It it is very much crunch time
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  in racing season now. It's all all big shows, all the
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  stuff's wrapping up and it's all this is where it all comes
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  together. So yeah, it's it kind of piles
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  up here at the end of the season for you, doesn't it?
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  Yeah, but how was your weekend though?
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  Like how are you doing? It was pretty good.
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  I had a blast at M40 this weekend.
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  It was a a top of racing media driver Evan Verdine run up to
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  the M40 Speedway for the first time.
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  So I rode up there with him and and his St.
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  Stock team there and we had a blast.
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  I mean he it's a tricky little track up there at M40.
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  So it it took him the whole day kind of get it figured out.
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  But you could tell at the end of the feature he started reeling
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  some cars back in and he had fun.
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  So that's what counts. First time on American racers
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  and first time at M40. So it was definitely a challenge
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  for my driver. Like I said, it was a fun day.
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  M40 had seven classes, 99 cars. They were honest about 99 and it
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  was done by 10 PMI think that's unbelievably impressive.
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  No plus 20. No, no plus 20s.
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  Well, but it's also on my race pass, which is transparency.
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  With 40, you're right. You're right there.
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  So you can't really lie if you're on my race pass so.
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  But yeah, like, like I said, seven classes, 99 cars, and I
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  think the last checkered flag flew at 9:59 PM exactly.
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  So wow #40 on that. Yeah, can't.
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  I mean, again, 99 cars and it isn't, isn't that their second
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  highest this year because I think they eclipsed 1. 100,
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  yeah, they did get over 101 time this year.
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  I'm not. Yeah.
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  I assume this is the second most, then yes?
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  I'm just trying to figure out as you talk about them like so
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  where did they park them because.
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  It was because they use that strip, because the vintage
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  modifieds were there and they use that strip going towards the
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  concession stand for the traveling series usually.
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  It didn't really feel like it was extra packed in there or
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  anything. I mean, it was, it was pretty
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  comfortable. Yeah, because I've always what
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  was it a few weeks ago when someone said 100?
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  I think Johnny made an like a one of his videos where he
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  talked about, hey, we're just trying to figure out where we're
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  parking them and, you know, let us know if you're not there
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  because we're definitely getting you guys in.
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  So again, how incredible though. I mean, just think about M40 and
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  we have, I know Chloe's getting set up in the staging area.
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  So that's why I haven't brought her on yet because I her camera
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  was sideways at first. So we got Chloe was kind of like
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  sideways. She's still sideways and it's
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  it's not there. She's good now, but I like.
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  Well, it kind of. Be like this, like, don't mind
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  us, Chloe. We just got a little neck kink.
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  We're just, you know, but you know, I know I believe she's
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  done M40 and so we'll talk with her about that.
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  I know you know, with M40, right?
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  It's always not that long ago that it was on its door, you
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  know, deathbed, right? I mean literally.
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  Healthy as ever right now, so. They just to think of what the
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  Russells have done with that, right, And sometimes the grain,
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  right, sometimes they bought the grain of what everyone else is
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  doing, but they're succeeding with it.
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  And that's what I was kind of thinking there.
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  Saturday is like, you can say what you want about the path
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  that they've taken to do what they're doing, but it really
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  does feel like it's a pretty family atmosphere when you're
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  there. It kind of feels like
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  everybody's getting along. I mean, obviously you have your
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  moments. There's, there's always moments,
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  but it does feel like there's a little bit different feeling at
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  M40 than at other places to me personally.
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  And I'm not, that's not a shot at anybody else, but they, they
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  have something very unique and special to them going on up
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  there and it's working so. Well, and it's, and that's where
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  you just go just again, I know it's against the grain
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  sometimes, but it's like just keep doing what you're doing
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  because you must be doing something right.
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  You're selling tickets, you're you're packing in cars, you
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  know, like it may not be the way this track does it or this track
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  is doing it, but if you have metrics that shows that what
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  you're doing, I mean, finances are always finances.
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  And we obviously don't have those kind of metrics And we
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  that's not our our, not our business, you know, but there's
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  a lot of, you know, there's a lot of tracks in that same boat
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  where, you know, finances may suggest a different metric.
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  But if you can look at your stands and see fans and you can
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  see that they look happy ish, you know, like they may not love
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  everything, but but you know, if you kind of got those things
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  going in your in your direction, I mean, you must be doing
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  something. So I know I'm excited.
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  We had a a nice crowd. You know, obviously it wasn't
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  full, but we had a nice crowd at New Paris on on Saturday for the
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  season championship night. Ray Roberts brought in like Ken
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  folk from literally all over the country, someone they drove up
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  from Kentucky places so. They were coming out of the
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  hills for Ray on. Saturday, so that was exciting.
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  At the Kalamazoo Clash, it was absolutely packed.
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  It looked like a night of destruction crowd.
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  I think there's close to 4000 people there.
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  I was told that that's not the number that was there, but I'm
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  like, I don't know. It looked really full to me.
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  So I. Motor math back to that plus 20.
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  Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, well, this sounds like subtraction to
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  me, but but it's 4000. I ish 3 to 4000 was there
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  packed. Chloe once again I think had the
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  loudest ovation out of everybody.
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  And so we'll talk a little bit about that 'cause that has to
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  feel good too. When you go around the country,
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  you know, racing, doing different things to have a, you
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  know, just your name said and all of a sudden you got a whole
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  crowd roaring behind you because that has to get the, the blood
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  flowing. So, so big crowd.
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  And obviously Summer Sizzler, she will be there.
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  If I recall, she's on the list for Reveal Hammer.
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  We can confirm with her. So I'm excited to see what that
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  crowd looks like because we're at 23 Outlaws right now for
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  that, plus we have the limited light models going.
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  I think for 2000 to win that number may change.
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  The sponsor was getting in on that and then we'll have the
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  Modifieds race two of three. So if you're ready, we can bring
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  on Chloe and talk all about it, from not only Clash to Sizzler
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  and everything before and after. Absolutely.
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  I'm excited. All right, so let's go ahead and
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  let's bring on again. Awesome run at at Kalamazoo.
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  Thanks to fast lane images Chelsea Landis for providing the
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  image we have Chloe Mazagotti. So Chloe, welcome to the Monday
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  night rewind. It's your debut on our on our
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  platform. So I definitely appreciate you
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  joining us tonight, especially after a long weekend.
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  I know you're at Owosso late. Oh yeah, it was.
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  It was a long night. So and again and, and a long
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  night for you too at Kalamazoo, maybe not so much because of
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  rain, but I know you guys were still there well after I left
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  and you were still there out in the parking lot area and
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  everything. So I'm traveling all over to
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  race and all that. So I again, I appreciate you
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  coming on tonight to join us. And so we call this a shoot
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  first aim second show. It's kind of like sitting in a
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  pit area just, you know, shooting the breeze.
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  So I always start with the softball question because some
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  people watching may not know you, like what your face is,
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  right? They may know your car, which by
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  the way, booze you if you've not seen her car.
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  Oh yeah. It's amazing that we have.
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  The same taste and. Colors nobody see it sit right
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  over. There, Yeah, the eagle was I I
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  walked by, I think I was alive and went oh, look at that.
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  And so I have to start with the softball question of who's Chloe
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  Mazzagatti? Just so that for those who know,
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  you will probably be like, OK, we know this.
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  But for those who don't know, you will be like, oh, that's who
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  she is. Or, hey, that's what she looks
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  like. Yeah, I'm Chloe Mazzagatti,
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  driver of the number 87 Super Outlaw late model and Prolate
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  model. The pro cars pink and blue right
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  now and usually all my cars have pink on them but right now my
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  Outlaw is red, white and blue with the eagle down the side of
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  it. So what?
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  What goes into your schemes? Because you just said you
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  usually have these colors. So what do the colors mean to
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  you? Pink, just, I don't know,
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  there's always like fluorescent pink neon colors.
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  We decided it was Big 250 this year, 4th of July.
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  Berlin was a big race. It was on the 4th of July.
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  So we decided to go red, white and blue.
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  And I liked it so much we just kept it.
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  So now we'll probably keep it for Labor Day and who knows,
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  maybe the whole year. Yeah, it's a sharp again, if you
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  the picture I took does not do it any close to justice.
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  If you get you got to see that in person, which August 29th at
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  the new Paris Streetway is a great place to see it in person.
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  But again, you ran the clash for the second time Chloe.
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  So what was it like? You know, last year's your first
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  time at Kalamazoo Racing getting that.
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  So if you want to take us back even in a year ago, your first
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  time at Kalamazoo, then coming back your second year to, I
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  mean, a fourth place finish and a very stout lame out.
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  I mean many champions. Terry Seneker junior came out of
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  I don't know if he was like retired, but he's been out of
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  the racing for a little bit, came out of and got his sixth
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  record win. Of course, I know Steve Needles
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  has been mentoring you a lot this year.
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  I actually went to school with Steve Needles high school
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  together. So if you want to talk a little
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  bit about your journey with Kalamazoo between your first
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  time and your second time and and what it takes to be
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  successful at a place like Kalamazoo.
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  Oh yeah, so my first time there is I immediately fell in love
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  with the place. I don't know what it is about
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  these different tracks. Kalamazoo in Berlin I've always
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  loved. You know, we had a top ten car
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  at the first time around Kalamazoo back in 2025 and I was
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  the youngest person ever start the race and the only females.
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  That was pretty cool and we we had a good run in the race.
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  We had some wiring problems, had to pit.
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  We were at the front end off, had to pit, but we still ended
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  up I think top 10. So that was pretty cool.
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  And then this time come around, I was excited just to be back.
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  It was my first time back since the Clash last year.
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  So we went out there and gave it our all in practice.
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  Just wasn't super fast. We never put on tires or
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  anything. Just kind of went out there and
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  got me used to the track again and we ended up tied for 10th
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  and qualifying and then all of a sudden took off in the race.
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  Like track became cool and I don't know, just came alive in
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  the race. Well, and you put on, I mean,
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  just watching you move up, it was like there's a couple times
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  I panned over because I'm like, where'd she come from?
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  You know, like you were you all of a sudden were there?
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  And so again, that was impressive to watch because I
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  know it's a a lengthy race. You know, it's definitely you
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  guys were on the track for a while. 2 I mean, two cautions
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  were 14 minutes total themselves, you know, between
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  the two. So that's that starts going.
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  So you know, what does it take for 125 laps?
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  Like what do you tell yourself that this isn't a 20 lap race or
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  a 30 lap race or a 40 lap, this is 125 laps that you're going.
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  So how do you how do you keep yourself calm, cool and
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  collected in a race like that? Oh, you know, I, I sit there and
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  I prayed the whole time, especially without having a spot
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  or anything. It gets real quiet in the car,
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  so you almost got to talk to yourself.
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  You just want to keep the wheels under it and be there at the
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  end. You know, sometimes it's half
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  the battle is just trying to be there at the end and have a car
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  at the end, which I noticed a lot of people started off real
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  strong and then started to fall off and I just was getting
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  started. So you know, we ended up 4th and
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  that it just it, it wasn't a win, but it was a win for us.
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  After a lot of top 10s this year, the top five just felt
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  amazing, especially at the Clash.
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  Do you prefer a longer do a longer race or shorter race or?
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  Well. All my races this year have been
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  100 plus laps, 200 Owasso and stuff.
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  I do like the longer races because I get better in the long
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  run. Oh, OK.
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  Well, so then for so Owasso this past Saturday, I know you guys
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  worked through rain delays, you worked through all these
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  different things. I think someone said features
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  finally took the track around 10 or something like that.
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  So you've talked about Berlin, so you want to talk a little bit
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  about for those who maybe don't know, you're from the Ohio area,
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  you know where you got your start racing.
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  And then how have you been been able to take those lessons early
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  to apply to a place like Berlin where a lot of people are like,
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  man, that's just like nowhere else that I raised.
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  And of course, Owosso the the newest looking facility around.
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  Yeah, so I started off in band Valero and Legend cars, which
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  little things, and we hopped in the late motto just to test back
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  when I was 13 last year. And dad, my dad just said go out
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  there, we're going to make laps. You don't need to be fast or
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  anything. Just get used to the car.
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  My second time out, you know, we were top of the charts and my
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  dad's like, you want to race Saturday?
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  I'm like sure, let's do it. So they qualified P1.
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  This is at Norton Raceway Park, formerly Barberton Speedway,
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  qualified P1. We started scratching the race
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  just to, they thought I was just going to drive around and keep
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  logging laps and I ended up in the hunt P2 and we're passing
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  for the lead on the last lap. So that was pretty cool.
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  And then going on from that, we went to Midville Speedway and
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  ended up winning the week after. So in Midville is a little bit
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  bigger, a little bit faster than Barberton.
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  So, you know, there's a lot more cars.
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  I think there's 18 cars. So it really just took off from
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  there. And then having Steve at Berlin,
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  who's raced there, I don't even know how many times.
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  You know, he taught me and helped me a lot.
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  I went out there and I was kind of like, whoa, what, what is
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  this all about? And then I ended up by the end
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  of the race, I was like, I wish I could race here locally.
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  Yeah, it's, I mean, we've had Matt Kent Bond, we've had a
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  couple who Berlin. They're like, once you figure it
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  out, you love it. But sometimes you got to figure
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  it out to love it and that, you know, what was it coming out of
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  Turn 3? Like you got to hit your mark in
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  three or four. It's one of them that, yeah,
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  there's a yellow line, but you don't use the yellow line.
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  You're like against the wall. Yeah, you just got a diamond.
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  It it's it's funky, but I've always liked the weirder tracks.
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  Now you go from a place like Berlin, Kalamazoo, Owasso, you
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  know, 3/8 and bigger to now the bull ring of Amish country, as I
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  call it. And each time and some people
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  argue on the Amish and literally we had three Amish go by on
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  Saturday. I'm like, there you go.
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  That's all I need. I just need one Amish a day to
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  go by and I'm already right. So anyways, obviously new pair
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  of speedways where you'll be with reveal the hammer this
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  Saturday. So then how do you and 100 laps,
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  right? So another 100 lap race for you.
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  But how does how do you go from there at Owosso and everything
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  to now a Bull Ring quarter mile, a lot of cars on the track at
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  one time, How do you manage all that?
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  It's it's definitely a lot. I've always been real good at
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  adapting for some reason. That's something I've always
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  been good at is I could hop in the pro late and go run at
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  Owosso and then hop in the Outlaw and go run at M40.
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  You know, I've always been real good at that.
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  So you really, especially having no spotters again, Owosso, we
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  had spotters this time we're not.
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  So it's really you just got to, you almost got to train yourself
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  to be able to go back and forth. What, what do you remember from
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  New Paris last year? Because didn't you race last
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  year too at New Paris? So what do you remember last
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  year that are some lessons you want to take into this year?
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  Because a lot of people talk about one and two turn 1 and 2,
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  like that's, that's a spot. But then we had someone on a few
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  weeks ago like, well, three and four are a little difficult.
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  And I'm like that most people don't say that, not that they're
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  wrong, but 1 and 2 is like where a lot of the action happens.
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  So what are some lessons that you remember from last year at
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  New Pairs that you'll be bringing this year with you?
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  Of course, you don't have to give all your secrets away.
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  There was a lot less cars last year.
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  It wasn't revealed at him or anything, so I think I don't
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  even know where we ended up in that 6th on.
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  But yeah, 1 and 2 is definitely really tricky.
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  You almost, you think it looks like you can drive it in way
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  deep, get on the brakes and make the corner.
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  You almost got a lift at the flag stand and it's kind of like
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  almost messes with you. You want to be able to drive it
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  in like that and you can't. So that's the only thing I
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  really remember. I've raced so many different
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  tracks since then, but I was pretty good there for that was
• 19:22
  my first time ever outside of Ohio racing.
• 19:25
  So in the big car I raced, it barbered in a Midville before
• 19:29
  that and then going to New Paris.
• 19:30
  It was, it was a little bit tricky, but I think we'll be, I
• 19:33
  think we'll be real good this year.
• 19:37
  Buju. What else?
• 19:38
  So a couple drives you get linked to because you're also in
• 19:42
  such close proximity in age as Bryce Bozell and Mason Metzger,
• 19:46
  and it seems like you guys have a good relationship with each
• 19:48
  other. But I'm curious if you guys
• 19:50
  being so linked so close gives you a little bit extra drive
• 19:53
  when you're racing those two to maybe come out ahead?
• 19:57
  Yeah, I know. I haven't talked to them in a
• 19:58
  while. Yeah, but.
• 20:01
  When I'm out there with people I know I'm always looking for them
• 20:04
  and seeing how they're doing and stuff.
• 20:06
  Like when I seen Bryce, he got into an incident at in turn 3:00
• 20:10
  and 4:00 and I just prayed that he was OK.
• 20:12
  And you know, seeing Terry Seneker up front and then seeing
• 20:16
  Terry or Steve needles in front of me, then going on to pass
• 20:18
  him, it was super cool. Even though he was having car
• 20:21
  issues, I still count to pass. But just being out there with
• 20:24
  them, super cool. Especially with Andy and Phil
• 20:27
  and and Terry, like it's just super cool being out there with
• 20:31
  them. Who do you like racing against?
• 20:34
  Like when you like if you had a maybe not a rival per SE, but
• 20:38
  like who, when you're on the track, brings out the best in
• 20:41
  Chloe. Really anyone you know, I my
• 20:47
  favorite to race with this thief because the past two races I've
• 20:50
  gotten to and that's just super cool for me.
• 20:52
  He's been my crew chief. Even when he's racing, he's
• 20:56
  still crew chiefs me and he'll even though he's all the way up
• 20:59
  in Michigan, he'll go to Florida, race with us,
• 21:01
  Nashville, all my CRA races he's at.
• 21:04
  So it's really cool working with him and then being on the track
• 21:07
  with him. And beating him too.
• 21:11
  Yeah, yeah, We were passing him when the caution came out of
• 21:14
  Owosso I was having all kinds of radio issues and I didn't have a
• 21:18
  spotter for that whole time. So it's pretty nerve wracking.
• 21:20
  The first 50 laps of the Owosso race and we were pushing on and
• 21:25
  pushing on him. I finally got to his inside and
• 21:27
  then caution came out. I was like, gosh darn it, I
• 21:30
  really wanted to pass him for the second race in a row, but we
• 21:34
  were close. Do you know if he's racing New
• 21:38
  Paris Saturday? No, he won't.
• 21:39
  He'll be. He'll be there crew chiefing me.
• 21:41
  Though, Yep, well, that's probably a short drive for him
• 21:44
  compared to the other tracks that we go to because he's, I
• 21:47
  mean, he's literally down the road from me.
• 21:48
  So wait. Yep.
• 21:50
  That way, he's down the road that way.
• 21:53
  And so that's where you know, that's that's it's always nice
• 21:58
  when we're local, right, because it's the, you know, some of the
• 22:00
  drives that you make. And so what's the what's your
• 22:03
  favorite race that you've ever done that just really stands out
• 22:06
  to you where you're like, Dang, like everything came together
• 22:10
  the best way possible. Or even it doesn't even have to
• 22:13
  all come together. Could be just like that was fun,
• 22:16
  you know, just even if it was like, hey, I hit the wall, but I
• 22:20
  saw the great time, like whatever it may be.
• 22:22
  What's the race that stands out to you?
• 22:25
  Yeah, my second time ever hopping in a late model.
• 22:28
  We're going to head the Norton Raceway Park and it rained out
• 22:31
  so we ended up going to Midville, started 8th and ended
• 22:36
  up in the hunt for the lead. And there's a lot of good
• 22:38
  drivers there, even like Brandon Short who not racing at Owosso
• 22:40
  and stuff, Gary Whitkey, a lot of old main event drivers and
• 22:44
  stuff. And we went up there for the
• 22:46
  first time in the car and we're on old tires, went out there and
• 22:49
  won the race and that was super cool being my second ever start
• 22:52
  against 18 drivers. So that was really cool.
• 22:56
  And then the Clash, obviously that was just that was really
• 23:00
  cool for me. It wasn't a win, but like I
• 23:02
  said, in our eyes, I was a win. On the flip side of that, how
• 23:06
  about one race you, If you could have it back and change one
• 23:09
  thing or change something, maybe, maybe it comes out a
• 23:11
  little better for you. If you could have one race back,
• 23:13
  what would it be? Probably the first when we went
• 23:20
  to speed weeks in New Smyrna, we just got that brand new Pro Late
• 23:23
  models, got dropped off at the track and we're running good and
• 23:28
  next thing you know we're backed into the wall and need a rear
• 23:30
  clip first night, so probably that one.
• 23:34
  We pitted and we had to go to the tail, so we were back there
• 23:37
  with some. It got pretty messy back there,
• 23:40
  so that's how it happened. So if I could take it back, we
• 23:43
  wanted a pit and everything should have been fine.
• 23:47
  Does something like that shake your confidence?
• 23:48
  Is that something that's hard to overcome when something like
• 23:50
  that happens? It was that 1 was definitely
• 23:53
  frustrating having to go into our backup car, which wasn't
• 23:56
  ready to get out. I mean, we had all kinds of
• 23:58
  issues with that car. We did a motor swap on Friday.
• 24:02
  It was, it was a mess. So, you know, it definitely was
• 24:06
  a long two weeks and frustrated me for the rest of the weeks,
• 24:10
  but now cars back together and we're running great in it, so I
• 24:16
  can't complain. So where all do you erase the
• 24:19
  Pro Late like I remember on your page because I started following
• 24:23
  you last year on your page and obviously have since then where
• 24:27
  I remember you debuting in the Pro late.
• 24:29
  But where are places that you've raced it, or where are places
• 24:32
  that you want to race it and plan to go and travel around?
• 24:35
  Yeah, so in the pro late I'm running the CRA turn 1 Series
• 24:40
  right now. We'll, we'll run speed weeks and
• 24:42
  stuff again, but right now, like I ran Owosso two times in that
• 24:49
  car. Birch Run all kinds of places.
• 24:55
  One I'm excited for at the end of the year is All America 400.
• 24:58
  We went there last year and made 13 laps.
• 25:00
  We got no practice. We're having all kinds of
• 25:02
  mechanical issues. That's our backup car again, so
• 25:05
  we shouldn't have to get that one out this time.
• 25:07
  And I'm excited for that race. So I'm getting to learn and try
• 25:11
  out a lot of tracks this year and it's been awesome, like M40
• 25:15
  and Ken Ross up in the UP and all over the place.
• 25:21
  What's 1? What's 1?
• 25:22
  That's still what's still on the list that you want to check off.
• 25:27
  Or a few maybe. I'm not trying to lay me at A1.
• 25:30
  Cool on the pro late. I'm excited to try Berlin in it.
• 25:33
  I know I've been there in the Outlaw Winchester, that one,
• 25:36
  that one's going to be pretty cool.
• 25:38
  My dad ain't very happy for that one though.
• 25:39
  But. That's what I say.
• 25:41
  You're great. You're brave.
• 25:41
  That I am Chloe. I've never been there, so I've
• 25:45
  never never even been there to watch a race, so I'm pretty
• 25:48
  excited for that one. Well, Buju, I thought you're
• 25:52
  that was like the perfect segue. Her question or her answer to to
• 25:55
  like you usually ask what's your favorite racetrack?
• 25:57
  So I thought that's where you're going.
• 25:58
  Then you swerved a little bit on me, so I'm going to steal it
• 26:02
  then, unless you want to take it back.
• 26:04
  No, take it, that's all you. I'm knocking my laptop over now.
• 26:08
  So while he deals with like Titanic issues over there, we're
• 26:11
  sinking shit. But but Chloe, what's a track
• 26:14
  that obviously you're talk about all these places you go.
• 26:17
  What's one that really stands out to you, where you just look
• 26:19
  forward to it, or to your favorite to watch or race at, or
• 26:23
  both? Berlin, I, I don't know what it
• 26:26
  is about that place. There's such good racing there
• 26:29
  to be able to run side by side. I ran side by side with Phil
• 26:32
  there for I don't even know how many laps now.
• 26:34
  Some really good racing that was really cool to do, especially
• 26:37
  with him winning there last year.
• 26:40
  So it was really cool to do that.
• 26:41
  And of course, Nashville, those two tracks always stood out to
• 26:45
  me. Both beautiful facilities.
• 26:47
  I don't know what it is about them, just love them.
• 26:51
  Now someone on here so Ryman Castle is saying it's a weapon
• 26:55
  on I Racing, so what's all that about?
• 26:59
  Me and him do I race a lot? I haven't even been on I racing
• 27:02
  since racing season started. So but no, we we do have a lot
• 27:07
  of fun on eye racing. He's the weapon, though.
• 27:09
  I we we usually I think me and his go to are super late models
• 27:15
  at 5 flags. So it it's a lot of fun on
• 27:19
  there. We'll get Jaden Kotashi.
• 27:21
  I don't know how you say his last name to him on there.
• 27:23
  Yep, Yep, I was close. We'll get him on there and all
• 27:26
  kinds of people. So it's a lot of fun during the
• 27:28
  offseason. Yeah, Chloe smoked me and I
• 27:31
  racing before as well. Equal opportunity provider.
• 27:35
  That's what I'm hearing. She's an equal opportunity
• 27:38
  provider. Now, is there anyone who you've
• 27:41
  raced and I racing who you've then had a chance to, you know,
• 27:45
  to go out and race in the big cars where you're like I beat
• 27:47
  you and I racing and I beat you in real life too?
• 27:50
  Yeah, me and Jayden, I never got to race them before.
• 27:55
  Well, I raced him at Berlin and then at Owosso this year.
• 27:57
  The one time he did race and he did beat me by I think one or
• 28:01
  two positions, but me and him did battle for a few laps.
• 28:04
  That was pretty cool. From I Racing.
• 28:06
  The real life I can't. I've raised Bryce Mason on I
• 28:10
  Racing, that's there's quite a few people but I can't think of
• 28:15
  the rest. Why?
• 28:17
  Because someone, I saw a post where someone was talking about
• 28:20
  out in Ohio or Pennsylvania somewhere where they're like
• 28:25
  they were naming the names for like, I've raced against these
• 28:27
  guys on I racing for five years and finally had a chance to race
• 28:30
  with them in person at a racetrack.
• 28:32
  Like they were all in one spot at one time for the first time
• 28:36
  after like five years. And so they were.
• 28:37
  So I, I figured I'd ask because that's kind of in a topic where
• 28:40
  people are like, I'm finally meeting people who I've seen and
• 28:43
  I racing or race and I racing where now I can race against
• 28:45
  them in person too. So so I thought that's pretty
• 28:48
  cool because I racing is a way to bring a lot of people
• 28:50
  together from, you know, around, you know, everywhere, right.
• 28:53
  So you may not always get a chance to race against people
• 28:56
  like that. But I know as we're hitting the
• 28:59
  the home stretch here, of course, to get to all these
• 29:02
  places, you need a big support group.
• 29:04
  Who all is? Who's behind you?
• 29:07
  And from the stands, there's a lot of fans that are also behind
• 29:10
  you, but like sponsors, marketing partners, whatever you
• 29:13
  want to call them, plus family and everything else.
• 29:14
  Like who's all behind Chloe, Mazi, Gotti getting you to the
• 29:17
  racetrack all the time. Oh yeah, my family for them
• 29:21
  putting up with me every weekend.
• 29:23
  It's been, it's been a lot. We're we're on the road all the
• 29:27
  time, like going from Owasso to Kalamazoo to Owasso.
• 29:30
  Now we're going to New Paris. And then who knows after that we
• 29:33
  got to go one week at a time. But you know, my dad, he drives
• 29:36
  the big rig there and my mom follows in her truck.
• 29:39
  So once we get there, we can get back and forth to the hotel and
• 29:41
  to eat and stuff. And my little brother, he, he
• 29:46
  tries to be a part of the pit crew.
• 29:47
  He's a big help out in the shop and stuff.
• 29:49
  And John Pritchett, he comes out and helps.
• 29:52
  We're out there in the shop right now.
• 29:53
  We're helping a buddy with the street stock.
• 29:55
  And you know, Steve Needles, once we get to the track, it's,
• 29:58
  it's hard because he lives in Michigan.
• 30:00
  We want him to move to Ohio, but we'd love to have him here.
• 30:04
  But you know, once we get there and we take our cars up there,
• 30:08
  just he's a great guy. Him and his dad, Doug, they've
• 30:11
  both taught me and showed me so much and both gave me hot rods.
• 30:16
  You know it. It shows too.
• 30:19
  And then I know Brandon, he's he's always busy.
• 30:23
  I don't know when Brandon sleeps either, but I know you had
• 30:25
  Brandon Hollis the other day. He.
• 30:26
  Was Brandon Hollis and Justin Hart?
• 30:28
  Yep. Brandon, yeah.
• 30:30
  He's like he's going to be at Owosso for the the big ASA race.
• 30:34
  Is it Wednesday? Tuesday, Wednesday.
• 30:37
  I think it's just Wednesday. OK, yeah, he'll be there doing
• 30:41
  tires. You know, he never stops.
• 30:43
  He's go, go, go. And he's he's tires are a big
• 30:46
  deal in these cars. So he's always gave me a good
• 30:48
  car too. And then we got my spotter,
• 30:50
  Justin Hart. He's there at all the races and
• 30:53
  when there is spotters and even when there ain't spotters, he's
• 30:56
  always there hoping. So we got a, we got a really
• 30:58
  good crew put together. Now for those who may be
• 31:01
  wondering, because there's a lot of drivers who've never had a
• 31:04
  spotter before, but obviously some for some big races, you see
• 31:07
  them a lot in the stands, like even CRA last year we had.
• 31:10
  So if you want to talk a little bit about, you know, obviously
• 31:12
  in NASCAR we know the spotter's role and what they do and that
• 31:15
  kind of deal. So do you want to give people a
• 31:17
  little bit of an idea for you in a short track racing, seeing
• 31:19
  like how a spotter can help you or some of the different things
• 31:22
  that a spotter can coach you through as you're on the track?
• 31:26
  Yeah, they're they're definitely busy.
• 31:28
  I don't, I'd love to try to spot people when I'm not racing, but
• 31:31
  I don't think I could do it. You got to like you got to stick
• 31:35
  with your decision. You know, I'd be like, oh, they
• 31:37
  look like they're going to go. Oh, they're not.
• 31:39
  You know, I'd I'd get somebody killed out there.
• 31:44
  But but you know, they're they keep you safe out there.
• 31:49
  You know when they're there, they tell them all right,
• 31:52
  they're looking, they're looking, they're there.
• 31:54
  They're you're clear. You know, they're rolling the
• 31:56
  outside, they're the leaders are coming.
• 31:58
  You know, they they provide a lot of information for you.
• 32:02
  Even on the choose cone, if you choose inside or outside,
• 32:04
  they'll count the rows out for you.
• 32:06
  It's their job is a lot busier than I feel NASCAR in my
• 32:11
  opinion. They got a lot more stuff to
• 32:13
  keep track of in NASCAR, but on track wise, they're definitely
• 32:18
  busy keeping you safe out there. So it's happening a lot faster
• 32:22
  and what you're doing. Yeah.
• 32:25
  Yeah, again, that's where I know that 4th place finished at
• 32:29
  Kalamazoo was just incredible to watch and I I'm excited to see
• 32:33
  you again. I, you know, instead of watching
• 32:35
  you just once this year, I get to watch your new pair.
• 32:37
  So I'm excited to see what you do down at that, you know,
• 32:40
  quarter mile Bullring because, you know, without lay models, we
• 32:44
  race them once a year at New Paris and this is it.
• 32:47
  And it's a 25th annual too. So it's, you know, it's one of
• 32:50
  those historic races that some of the names that you raced
• 32:52
  against or competed with at Kalamazoo are going to be down
• 32:55
  there too. And so what's it like been
• 32:58
  racing for a reveal? And then what's your goals with
• 33:03
  the Reveal the Hammer Series before we let you go here?
• 33:06
  Yeah, New Paris, everybody should be pretty equal, I guess.
• 33:09
  Like you said, with them racing once a year, we nobody's going
• 33:12
  to be like, oh, I race every weekend and have an advantage on
• 33:15
  anybody. So there should be some really
• 33:17
  good racing with how many cars are entered and everything.
• 33:20
  It's definitely going to be a tight track.
• 33:21
  But you know, my goal for Reveal the Hammer and CRA right now is
• 33:26
  Rookie of the Year. We're both currently second in
• 33:28
  points really close though, so rookie of the year in both and
• 33:33
  top ten in both. And we're running for Owosso
• 33:36
  points. And I think, I'm not sure where
• 33:38
  we're sitting in that after last night, but or Saturday.
• 33:42
  All my days are running together now.
• 33:44
  We we got up at 5:00 in the morning to head to Owosso.
• 33:48
  We looked at the weather, 100% of storms all day.
• 33:50
  We're like, we're going to go back to bed.
• 33:52
  You know, they ain't getting it in.
• 33:54
  We woke up at 8:00 and they said we're getting in no matter what.
• 33:58
  So by the by 9:00 we're on the road rushing there.
• 34:01
  We get there 10 before 2 and practice starts at 2:00.
• 34:05
  We just throw the car out of the trailer, check air pressures and
• 34:07
  go. So it was really cool to be that
• 34:10
  fast at Owosso for, especially from the race.
• 34:14
  We didn't get to qualify on new tires or anything.
• 34:16
  And after all the rain, the track was actually really good
• 34:18
  and I want to give a shout out to the track for getting the
• 34:21
  show win. Yeah, I kept watching the
• 34:23
  updates because Chris Colby announces or he announces at
• 34:27
  Corgan. And so we were talking about his
• 34:28
  busy schedule. I'm like, yeah, I have 4 out of
• 34:30
  five days where, you know, I I only knew it's Monday because
• 34:34
  I've been scheduling the Monday night rewind since I talked with
• 34:36
  you the other day. So I'm like, I know Monday's
• 34:39
  coming, I just didn't always remember.
• 34:41
  And you know, like what time is it?
• 34:44
  There's a sun up or sundown. But but I know, you know,
• 34:47
  obviously with the drives that you guys are making to get there
• 34:49
  just in time at Owosso and load off like that, but at least you
• 34:52
  had some rain delays maybe to just catch your breath a little
• 34:55
  bit too. So, but kudos to them because
• 34:57
  that's not easy, you know, to to do that.
• 35:00
  And I don't know, it probably gets people super frustrated,
• 35:03
  like, OK, you should have just canceled this because now it's
• 35:05
  this late, but you know, they got it in, you know, the
• 35:08
  obviously a big team there and, and the late mile race seemed
• 35:11
  like it was great too. From I was following along with
• 35:13
  Chelsea Landis's updates as she was posting different things.
• 35:18
  So I'm like, oh, hey, they're going.
• 35:20
  So so again, I know you got you guys are working on a car.
• 35:24
  You said you're in the shop and everything working.
• 35:26
  So I definitely don't want to keep you any longer because
• 35:29
  you're busy and, and maybe at some point you'll see you're on
• 35:32
  board at some point. I know that they died.
• 35:35
  I think yours was under the last caution, so we needed like one
• 35:39
  last caution and we would have had the whole race, but you'll
• 35:43
  get to see that tonight. I was just getting ready to edit
• 35:45
  yours. I'm like, oh shoot, now I got to
• 35:46
  get on so. It was 640.
• 35:48
  I've been waiting for that. I'm excited.
• 35:51
  They did have a lot of cautions. I was, I was getting so nervous.
• 35:54
  And then when they single filed us, I was like, oh boy.
• 35:57
  Yeah, that's how I can tell where we were in the race is
• 36:01
  with the cautions, because this camera died after Kyle Krump
• 36:05
  spun out. So at least I knew where we were
• 36:07
  within the race. But I was, I was actually
• 36:10
  shocked. I thought we'd get like 50
• 36:11
  minutes, but the cameras performed.
• 36:13
  They just an hour, most of them got anywhere from an hour 30 to
• 36:17
  hour 36 and and you're thinking, well, that's usually like a full
• 36:20
  race, not, not quite so so you will see yours.
• 36:25
  It's common, but I I appreciate you again for allowing me to be
• 36:28
  in your car and, and ride along with you.
• 36:30
  So again, you're, you're fun to watch and and you're definitely,
• 36:35
  I mean you're, you're gonna carry this sport into the future
• 36:37
  and you're what, 14 now? Or did you just?
• 36:40
  Just turn 15. I was gonna say, I thought it
• 36:42
  was just your birthday not too long ago, so just turn 15.
• 36:45
  So again, booze. You just think of the future of
• 36:46
  the sport. Yeah, when we have someone like
• 36:49
  Chloe Mazzagotti who's already a trailblazer and and laying a
• 36:52
  solid foundation for the future. So keep up what you're doing
• 36:55
  because one to to compete at the level you're competing at is not
• 36:59
  easy. You know, people in the
• 37:01
  grandstand think it's easy sometimes, but obviously, you
• 37:04
  know, there's a big difference between driving in the
• 37:06
  grandstand and driving on the track.
• 37:07
  And so mm hmm, you know, just keep doing what you're doing
• 37:09
  because you're coming a really long ways.
• 37:11
  And just in the year to year watching at Kalamazoo, I'm like,
• 37:14
  if that's what you did in one year, I don't know, may not be
• 37:18
  too long before maybe you're hoist hoisting that trophy at
• 37:21
  the Kalamazoo Clash because you were on the move.
• 37:24
  And I think if we had a 200 lap race, you might have even been
• 37:28
  right there too 'cause you were gaining on them lap after lap.
• 37:30
  So again, great run at Kalamazoo and I'm looking forward to
• 37:34
  seeing you this Saturday at the new Paris Speedway.
• 37:37
  Yeah. Thank you for having me on.
• 37:38
  I appreciate you guys. Oh, awesome.
• 37:40
  Again, thank you Chloe for taking the time tonight.
• 37:43
  So. But I know you're working, so
• 37:45
  we'll let you get to work. We'll get that race car ready.
• 37:48
  Yeah, yeah. Do you ever raise straight
• 37:49
  sacks? Or do you think you'll ever
• 37:50
  raise the street sack before we let you go?
• 37:54
  We had, we owned one, we just sold it a couple years back.
• 37:56
  We're working on our buddies right now.
• 37:59
  I mean, I've talked to Josh Way. I was thinking about running the
• 38:02
  Triad and at Lorraine. And then?
• 38:04
  But then we figured out we got a Berlin race, I think it is that
• 38:07
  weekend. So maybe one time you'll cash me
• 38:09
  in a Street Stock. I mean, I'll drive anything
• 38:11
  anybody offers me so. I like that.
• 38:15
  Someone take someone take note on that.
• 38:17
  We got a lot of people watching right now.
• 38:18
  We're bringing on after you Haley bowl.
• 38:21
  She's the first female if from what we know, unless Cindy
• 38:24
  Streamy did it way back, but she's the first female to win a
• 38:27
  street sock championship at new parents and she had a roller
• 38:30
  coaster day that was she between rated air blowing and still
• 38:34
  coming back out. So, you know, she's her first
• 38:37
  year in a street stock. So I was just wondering because
• 38:39
  we just don't have a lot of females in the street stock
• 38:41
  ranks. But since you said St.
• 38:43
  Stock, I'm like, would you ever jump into a Street Stock?
• 38:45
  So if someone's listening to that's a street Stock, you never
• 38:48
  know. Chloe said she'll race anything,
• 38:50
  so might just get one ready. But again, thank you so much for
• 38:54
  joining us tonight. Yeah, keep being the
• 38:56
  representative of this work. Thank you.
• 38:59
  Oh yeah, again, we were talking with Chloe Mazzagatti out of
• 39:03
  Ohio. She just raced at Kalamazoo last
• 39:05
  Wednesday, raced at Owosso on Saturday, and she will be at the
• 39:09
  new pair of Speedway for the Summer Scissor 25th edition this
• 39:14
  coming Saturday with Reveal the Hammer series.
• 39:16
  So you can come on out and see Chloe Mazzagatti race in her
• 39:20
  very beautiful 87. If you've not seen it in person,
• 39:24
  you need to. But someone who just won a
• 39:29
  championship, and I mean, my heart broke for Haley when her
• 39:34
  radiator, when I'm like, this is not the way the championship
• 39:37
  should be decided. And then I just kind of sunk on
• 39:39
  the roof there. Obviously, I sponsored Charlie
• 39:42
  Hannah and Sage Hannah, so I'm rooting for them.
• 39:44
  But you know, I gave a little, I don't know if it helped Haley or
• 39:47
  not, but I gave her a little bit of a pep talk earlier in the day
• 39:49
  because watching her has been so fun.
• 39:51
  And when that radiator, I went, this is not how this should go.
• 39:55
  And, you know, you leave it on the track and and she definitely
• 40:00
  did. She came back out after that
• 40:01
  lengthy a red flag. And so that that was really
• 40:05
  exciting to see. Kudos to the team for bust and
• 40:08
  tail to get that done. So let's go ahead and let's
• 40:11
  bring on the Monteith's tire 2026 new pair Speedway St.
• 40:16
  Stock track champion and rookie of the year Haley Ball.
• 40:22
  Haley, welcome to the Monday Night Rewind.
• 40:24
  Thank you for having me. Oh, I I'm excited, like I said,
• 40:28
  you know, even though I have two cars obviously who are in the
• 40:31
  point chase with you, You know, I, I not only did I go and make
• 40:35
  fun of sage first, that's always one of the first things I do at
• 40:37
  the track. Make fun of her for a little
• 40:38
  bit, talk to Charlie, but then I always come over and stop and
• 40:42
  and have a chat with you and and Rich and you know, that's when
• 40:47
  that radiator when I'm like, I just, I was so defeated and I'm
• 40:51
  not even in the car. I'm like, this is not how this
• 40:54
  should go. This is not how championship
• 40:56
  gets decided. But you came out and the the
• 40:58
  championship got decided the way it's supposed to on the
• 41:01
  racetrack. And so for those who are
• 41:04
  watching who may not know you because we just had Chloe on,
• 41:07
  she brings a huge audience to who's Haley Bold?
• 41:10
  That's always the softball question.
• 41:12
  Then from there we shoot 1st and aim second.
• 41:14
  So it's just from there we kind of figure out where we go.
• 41:16
  But let's always start with who are you?
• 41:20
  Well, I'm a third generation race car driver, obviously my
• 41:24
  dad and then my grandpa before me.
• 41:28
  I just got in a street stock this year and I love it.
• 41:33
  Other than that, I really like to read books and play with my
• 41:39
  dog, which if you hear her, I apologize.
• 41:40
  She's. There somewhere we welcome pets
• 41:43
  on the show. Yeah, we've had well, what my
• 41:46
  gizmo, a cat made an appearance. We've had Ron Vrash has had his
• 41:50
  dogs and the thing. So we're we're not anti animal.
• 41:53
  And I do apologize if I cough. Ever since they put all that oil
• 41:56
  dried down at New Paris, I've had a cough.
• 41:58
  And so I am not appreciative of the oil dried at the moment
• 42:01
  because I, I'm sure I inhaled well a year's worth of whatever
• 42:06
  that is. But so if I cough, I apologize.
• 42:09
  I forgot to say that to Chloe earlier.
• 42:11
  I'm not coughing because I'm I'm just that oil dry got to me on
• 42:15
  on on Saturday, which is not your fault, by the way.
• 42:18
  We heard Buju. She apologized to the safety
• 42:21
  team. I mean felt bad.
• 42:25
  Yeah, I I hear you. She, she apologized and I'm
• 42:29
  like, so no need to apologize for my cough.
• 42:32
  This is not your responsibility. It happens.
• 42:34
  I mean go to super shoe and I will catch up with my coughing
• 42:38
  by then too 'cause there will be more oil dry there than on I
• 42:41
  think the whole season. But but again, a huge
• 42:44
  congratulations. I know this year some
• 42:47
  frustrations too, right? Like you're loving the street
• 42:49
  stock, but some frustrations because you are so dominant in
• 42:53
  that Hornet and you did so well in the Hornet.
• 42:55
  You got so used to getting checkered flags and parking at
• 42:59
  Victory Lane and it and maybe not it coming easy, but like
• 43:03
  making it look easy, right? Then you made the jump to the
• 43:05
  street stock earlier this year and it is different.
• 43:10
  And so first one, we just start there.
• 43:13
  What for you because we've had Evan Verdainen who's talked
• 43:16
  about that. We've had Sage Hannah who's
• 43:17
  talked a little bit about about it.
• 43:20
  For you going from a very successful Hornet career to the
• 43:23
  Street stocks, what is what was the big difference and change
• 43:26
  for you Not talking about confidence?
• 43:30
  For when I had to learn how to drive a clutch Still sometimes.
• 43:37
  Sometimes my dad and Zach have to remind me like just slow down
• 43:40
  and like, you know, you got to, you have a clutch now.
• 43:44
  And sometimes I literally just forget and I'll go to take off
• 43:48
  and it just dies on me. But I'm, you know, first year in
• 43:51
  and I'm trying not to be. I do get frustrated with it
• 43:54
  though, because I'm like, come on, like remember that.
• 43:56
  But other than that, the speed was a big thing which obviously
• 44:03
  as I got more comfortable and then I picked up time, which was
• 44:06
  wonderful because I was not happy with my lap times at the
• 44:08
  beginning of the year. But I won A149 on Saturday, so
• 44:14
  that's my fastest lap at New Paris yet.
• 44:16
  So I was pleased with that progression.
• 44:23
  I guess just being in a bigger car, like it's longer, it's
• 44:26
  wider, yet the you know, you can't just dive moment in there
• 44:30
  anymore like you could have worn it.
• 44:33
  Preferably not. Preferably not, no.
• 44:38
  And then probably kind of, I don't want to say like I had to
• 44:43
  relearn the track completely, but you know, you have different
• 44:46
  left points and different points you can get back on the gas
• 44:50
  with, you know, like where I'm comfortable out in the car to
• 44:53
  where I was. So I mean with the Hornet, I
• 44:56
  don't know that I was off the gas for much more than maybe a
• 45:00
  second. Where is the street stock?
• 45:02
  You know, I had to like relearn all that.
• 45:03
  And it's definitely more than a second probably, I would say.
• 45:09
  So do you want to talk a little bit about the confidence in two,
• 45:11
  right? Because that's something that I
• 45:12
  know and you don't have to if you don't want to.
• 45:14
  But you know, you had like Buju myself and like hundreds of
• 45:18
  thousands of people behind you, like, no girl, you're doing it
• 45:21
  like you're doing so well. But I know for you, right, like
• 45:24
  that was a big thing. So how do you overcome that to
• 45:27
  the point that now you can say, hopefully very proudly by the
• 45:32
  way, after everything you went through on Saturday, I am the
• 45:35
  2026 new Paris Speedway track champion and from what most of
• 45:39
  us could figure out, the first female, Unless Cindy's tremie
• 45:42
  did it, or someone who were. Not sure, Chris said.
• 45:45
  Cindy did. But.
• 45:46
  Oh, Cindy did Haley's the first rookie to do Oh, first rookie.
• 45:49
  So I mean clean sweep. I oh, I just see the comment
• 45:52
  now. My mistake.
• 45:53
  But although I did say earlier, Cindy might have done it if
• 45:56
  anyone did do it. But I mean, think about that.
• 45:59
  Cindy's Tremie Trailblazer Haley Bowl in the same sentence.
• 46:04
  Track champion at new pairs. What's that like?
• 46:06
  Especially for that confidence where I know that was a big
• 46:09
  thing for you to go overcome, where even your dad's, like I
• 46:12
  keep trying to tell her. I'd get lectures every night.
• 46:17
  Like get out of your head. I don't even want to know.
• 46:21
  I don't. I don't even know if I could
• 46:23
  count how many times I was told in like the last seven days
• 46:26
  leading up to Saturday last week, how many times I was told
• 46:30
  by him to just like get out of my head and calm down.
• 46:32
  And he's like, you're racing one car and like, go out there, run
• 46:35
  your race. As far as confidence, I'd, I
• 46:40
  think I still don't know that I have a lot of it in the street
• 46:44
  side just because I, my, I'm very hard on myself and I like
• 46:48
  to see like to me, like, even though like I have the
• 46:51
  championship, I still haven't won the feature in the street
• 46:54
  sock. So like to me, I'm like, OK,
• 46:56
  that's, that's you know, that's my next goal.
• 46:59
  And yeah, I'd say while I'm like more comfortable in the car, I
• 47:05
  don't know that I have that like confidence level that I used to
• 47:07
  have like in the Hornet. But I will say the last couple
• 47:11
  weeks, even with the hardships that have come because my last
• 47:14
  couple weeks of my season was honestly kind of ridden with bad
• 47:19
  luck. But even, you know, the last
• 47:21
  couple weeks, I just, I guess the confidence started coming in
• 47:24
  terms of competitiveness like what I did gain just because I
• 47:28
  got more comfortable in the car. I started getting faster lap
• 47:30
  times. I started qualifying like higher
• 47:32
  up on the board and I got more comfortable out on the track in
• 47:37
  the car. So I guess I did gain some, but
• 47:39
  not to the level that I had it before.
• 47:42
  It's common, I hope, because again, you're just to watch you
• 47:46
  this year. And this is one of the things
• 47:48
  that I love about going to a track weekly.
• 47:51
  You know, even though I get I get invited to go to all these
• 47:54
  different places that I could build a schedule where I can go
• 47:57
  here, go there. I just I love being on a track
• 48:00
  weekly. I love the routine of it, but I
• 48:02
  love the connection of it. I love being able to talk with
• 48:05
  drivers, you know, you know, connect with them, get to know
• 48:08
  them, get to know their story and watch that growth and
• 48:12
  watching you your first time out of the street sack to even like
• 48:16
  roller coaster of emotions on. I mean, like I said, I had I was
• 48:19
  sad and I'm like, this is not how this should go.
• 48:22
  And and meanwhile, a car that I do sponsor could have won the
• 48:27
  championship if you'd stayed in the pit area, right?
• 48:29
  But it's like, no, this is not how this should go.
• 48:31
  It needs to be settled on the track, right?
• 48:33
  So the roller coaster Saturday, even then, like I had a chance
• 48:36
  to talk with you when I switch in batteries in the Gopros.
• 48:39
  And you seemed you seemed calm. You're like, I'm thirsty.
• 48:44
  That's her first time. Like not well, I'm like, I can't
• 48:47
  help you with that. But you know, but it was one of
• 48:50
  those things that I think, you know, if you watch video
• 48:53
  backing, you just see the things that you've been able to do.
• 48:55
  I mean, it's night and day from where you first started, but you
• 48:58
  were Dang good out the gate too. So it was one of those things
• 49:01
  that I I hope that it comes for you because you're, I mean,
• 49:05
  you're just so good behind the wheel.
• 49:07
  It's natural. It's part of your bloodline,
• 49:10
  right? I mean, you've grown up a race,
• 49:12
  yeah. You've grown up around racing.
• 49:14
  You've and obviously when you have someone like Rich who has
• 49:18
  championships he had and multiple tracks, right?
• 49:21
  I mean, he has those feature ones, He has those things.
• 49:23
  It's going to come and and just think about that too.
• 49:27
  Everything that you guys overcame on top of, you know,
• 49:29
  obviously a lot of people know that he's had some health issues
• 49:32
  over the last couple weeks in and out of the hospital.
• 49:35
  Like that has to play in things too, where like, OK, I got to
• 49:38
  focus. I'm at the racetrack.
• 49:39
  I am here to race. But how's dad?
• 49:41
  What's Dad doing? Why is he not sitting all these
• 49:45
  all these things which we're not going to tell on him in case his
• 49:48
  doctor's watching. But yeah, I don't think he
• 49:51
  probably sat much on Saturday like he should have been.
• 49:53
  But So do you want to talk a little bit about like, you know,
• 49:58
  your goal was rookie of the year, right?
• 50:01
  You know, talk a little bit about not only from that
• 50:04
  confidence, but then, you know, how do you keep yourself
• 50:06
  grounded, you know, when you have all these other things
• 50:09
  going on, like what kept you so grounded and in the moment
• 50:12
  rather than getting ahead of yourself or getting behind
• 50:15
  yourself? Well, at the beginning of the
• 50:19
  year it was more so I guess getting race, getting to race
• 50:25
  with my dad for the first time, because obviously I didn't get
• 50:27
  to do that in the Hornet. And a lot of it was if I could
• 50:30
  just focus on like, I don't know if anyone like ever paid
• 50:34
  attention like during hot laps or whatnot, but I would go out
• 50:36
  at the same time and make sure I could like chase him.
• 50:39
  And I guess focusing on like, you know, my following his line
• 50:45
  and like watching where he's letting off stuff like that.
• 50:47
  I guess in a way that kept me grounded and like kept me from
• 50:51
  getting overly. I mean, I'm always in my head at
• 50:54
  the racetrack. I'm not going to lie to you.
• 50:55
  That's always like, it's a mind game.
• 50:59
  But yeah, I guess in the beginning of the year, it was
• 51:02
  more so that just because I knew there was a lot to learn there
• 51:05
  and I knew if I could focus and just calm down and ground
• 51:09
  myself, that the right there is like 40 years of experience that
• 51:14
  I could learn from. And then in June when he got
• 51:18
  benched, he was more of like a vocal coach like he was before,
• 51:22
  obviously, because he wasn't able to be out there.
• 51:27
  And then these last couple weeks, I guess what grounded me
• 51:29
  was just since I don't know, I'm assuming people probably know
• 51:34
  this, before I took over the points lead, he was the points
• 51:36
  leader and that would have been his 12th championship if he
• 51:40
  would have won it. And he never had one at New
• 51:43
  Paris. Either so first.
• 51:45
  For him, so the last couple weeks it was more of course I
• 51:51
  wanted it for myself, but I wanted it for him also because
• 51:56
  if he couldn't win it, it's you know, his next obviously best
• 52:00
  choice would be me. So I guess that would be what
• 52:03
  kept me grounded and focused just cuz I know if I let myself
• 52:07
  get overly I could mess up and let it slip so.
• 52:12
  Ambuja, she did take the advice. She found a spot on Saturday
• 52:15
  away from the car as I I recommended, I said go find
• 52:19
  somewhere not near the car, not even in an where did, where was
• 52:22
  your spot? Where did you find comfort?
• 52:25
  So my best friend, her husband, came to the races on Saturday
• 52:29
  and I went with her over to her vehicle and just kind of sat
• 52:33
  there for a couple minutes in silence and calm down a little
• 52:36
  bit right before the feature. It was, I think the four
• 52:38
  cylinders. My head just went out and I'm
• 52:40
  like, OK, I have a couple minutes so.
• 52:43
  Good, when she said she did do that I'm like yes cuz I might.
• 52:48
  I was still nervous, but it did, it cleared my head a little bit
• 52:51
  so. They sometimes say if you're
• 52:53
  having like rough days. So I'm a very Sheldon Cooper
• 52:57
  when it comes to some things where like I like the same
• 53:00
  parking spot. I like the same kind of things
• 53:03
  where sometimes they say if you need to get out of your head,
• 53:06
  park in a different spot, like far away from your comfort, you
• 53:09
  know, walk to a building differently than what you
• 53:12
  usually do, take a different path.
• 53:14
  And so that's why I'm like, don't be near a car.
• 53:17
  Don't, don't be in the pit area. It may help you.
• 53:20
  And if it doesn't, at least we tried it.
• 53:21
  And like, Nah, bro, I hated that.
• 53:24
  Then don't do it again. But but at least it helped a
• 53:26
  little bit. But I know I've asked a lot of
• 53:28
  questions. I'm going to get a drink of
• 53:29
  water and I know Buju's followed question.
• 53:31
  So I'm going to let Buju take a couple here.
• 53:33
  So yeah, one thing we had in common is that we had the
• 53:36
  favorite. We had the same favorite driver
• 53:37
  growing up. He just happened to be your dad.
• 53:39
  So you said he was a great teacher, but how has your dad
• 53:42
  been as a teacher so far moving up to the street stock?
• 53:46
  Honestly, he's a lot calmer than I thought he'd be.
• 53:48
  Yeah, that's surprising. I.
• 53:50
  Figured. He'd be nervous honestly, just
• 53:53
  because you know, it's a big step, you know, going from a 4
• 53:56
  cylinder to AV8I really. And I don't know, I feel like
• 54:01
  sometimes he really only has to tell me something like once or
• 54:05
  twice it just clicks. I don't know if it's the way, I
• 54:07
  don't know if it's the way my brain works or the way he's
• 54:09
  explaining it, but I don't know. And, and I think it helped that
• 54:14
  he could just show me too. Also, like I get to go out there
• 54:18
  and just followed him around. And he's been through it all
• 54:21
  already, at least once for sure. Yeah.
• 54:24
  Has has this experience, your experience in the streets, not
• 54:27
  giving you any more respect for what he's done all these years?
• 54:30
  I know you're already his biggest fan already but.
• 54:34
  Yeah, points racing alone. I I've joked, I'm like I've
• 54:39
  joked multiple times. I don't ever want to do that
• 54:41
  again. That was stressful.
• 54:42
  But I'm not going to lie, it was very rewarding in the end.
• 54:44
  So I'm sure I'll do it at some. Point.
• 54:47
  But to have eleven of those? Yeah.
• 54:51
  That's that's impressive. And yeah, I don't even know how
• 54:54
  I did this one. So I can't imagine how he felt
• 54:57
  getting love in them. So and they were going till 3:00
• 54:59
  in the morning and they. Had a tea?
• 55:01
  Feature and yeah, well, that's where I didn't know he didn't
• 55:06
  win one at New Paris in my head, I mean, I knew South Bend, I
• 55:09
  knew Plymouth and in my head I thought he had a new Paris one
• 55:12
  at some point, but so I just learned something new tonight.
• 55:15
  That's where I, I thought he did, but I mean, he seemed
• 55:19
  pretty calm on Saturday too, which probably good from a
• 55:23
  doctor's standpoint that, that he seemed calm.
• 55:27
  So do you want to talk a little bit about, because I know in
• 55:29
  your post race interview, which was recorded, it's just not
• 55:33
  edited yet. It'll, it's coming though.
• 55:35
  But in your PO or your championship interview with
• 55:38
  Jeremy, you talked a little bit about there's a lot of people
• 55:41
  who helped you get back on the track.
• 55:42
  So obviously that red flag was super helpful that they had a
• 55:46
  lot of a clean up to do, right. So do you want to talk a little
• 55:48
  bit about that Behind the wall where nobody really could see
• 55:52
  what's going on except for those in turn four and three who
• 55:56
  helped like get that car back together to get you back on the
• 55:59
  track so that the championship is decided the way that it
• 56:02
  should always be decided, and that's on the track?
• 56:05
  So I'm not going to lie, there was so much going on.
• 56:09
  I can't remember a couple people who were helping.
• 56:14
  For one, it was Jazz, which he has helped my dad for the last
• 56:18
  few years. My mom was over there for moral
• 56:21
  support, making sure she's like, you know, someone didn't hear
• 56:25
  something. She'd be like, hey, they said
• 56:27
  they need this. You know, my dad was trying to
• 56:29
  jump in, even though he probably should have been.
• 56:32
  I know Bobby Schechler was over there.
• 56:36
  My boyfriend Zach was over there helping my cousin Christopher.
• 56:40
  I mean, there were so many. Oh, Will left turn Willie was
• 56:45
  over there. My goodness, there was, there
• 56:47
  was so many hands and, and that I, I, I'm honestly grateful
• 56:53
  because I walked off the track and I'm icing oil and I'm like,
• 56:58
  OK, my nights done. Like I'm like half into the
• 57:01
  trailer. I'm getting my fire suit off and
• 57:03
  Zach's like, we're going to try to fix it, get in the car and
• 57:06
  get ready. And I'm like, OK, I seen oil,
• 57:09
  but OK, I'm like, if you say so because you know, at that point,
• 57:14
  like I didn't know everything I was looking at either.
• 57:17
  So, so I'm in there and they start, you know, all these
• 57:23
  tools, the fan shroud comes off because it's all wadded up and
• 57:29
  they like rerouted a whole oil line because there was a hole in
• 57:33
  it and bypassed a bunch. It was honestly.
• 57:36
  And then I seen a ratchet strap coming in at some point to hold
• 57:39
  my radiator in my car. Like I it was honestly like how
• 57:44
  fast they work too and how In Sync, like someone would say
• 57:47
  something you'd be like, Oh yeah, like I can do this.
• 57:50
  And some guy ran for a funnel because no one could like the
• 57:54
  simplest thing, like no one could find 1.
• 57:56
  So it honestly like it was it was really cool and especially
• 58:01
  to be on like the receiving hand of that.
• 58:02
  Like you always see people talk about like the community at a
• 58:06
  racetrack, but to be like on the receiving end of that, that's.
• 58:09
  Really cool, very humbling for sure.
• 58:13
  Well, again, just you taking us through that, right?
• 58:15
  It's like, I mean, just the amount of people who jumped in
• 58:19
  to help with that again, I, I hesitated posting is kind of
• 58:24
  like, do I post? Do I not post?
• 58:26
  Do I post or not post? And because it's like it sucks
• 58:31
  that it happened, but it's like, but it keeps people updated.
• 58:34
  And then when you came back out, I'm like, OK, we're we're back
• 58:37
  in this right? And and I shouldn't say we're
• 58:39
  because it's I'm not in the car, but you know, you know, but it
• 58:42
  was one of those again, like I'm rooting for Charlie, rooting for
• 58:46
  Sage, but rooting for you because I've just where you've
• 58:49
  come and where you've gone, right?
• 58:50
  Like it's just like I'm a big fan of what you're doing and how
• 58:53
  you're racing in the way that you're racing.
• 58:54
  You know, you're not out there bullying people.
• 58:56
  You're not taking people out, you're not putting them in the
• 58:57
  wall. You're not like as a rookie, you
• 59:00
  don't look like a rookie. You know, and I'm sure people if
• 59:03
  I show people video and I said pick the rookie in this race,
• 59:06
  the 22 with pink is Oh, and it's not too bad.
• 59:10
  That's the first bark and we've been on almost 30 minutes,
• 59:12
  right. So that says, but it was out of
• 59:14
  nowhere. I'm like, maybe they maybe he
• 59:16
  agrees, but but I mean, you know, just, I bet if I ask
• 59:20
  someone to pick a rookie, they're not going to pick your
• 59:23
  car, right? Like you don't stand out as a
• 59:25
  rookie. And so, so with that, that's
• 59:28
  where, you know, taking us through that.
• 59:30
  It's like, I couldn't see what was going on because you're just
• 59:32
  behind the big wall there. So I'm like, OK, I, I see
• 59:36
  commotion, I hear stuff. But but again, that just for
• 59:41
  everyone to jump in. Josh Summers, Let's give a shout
• 59:43
  out to Josh Summers. Unfortunately, the new Paris
• 59:46
  rule is once the race starts, they can't change cars or
• 59:49
  anything like that. It opens up Gray areas, which I
• 59:51
  I understand. I'm kind of like, well, what if
• 59:53
  the whole field took a vote that was next?
• 59:55
  And you know, I was trying to trying to politic a little bit,
• 1:00:00
  but but you know, Josh Summers, right, he volunteered his car.
• 1:00:05
  He was going to get out of his car and let you get in it just
• 1:00:07
  so you can finish the race. And I thought again, that
• 1:00:10
  gesture, right. It's almost like you want to
• 1:00:12
  honor that gesture. I get rules or rules, but I see
• 1:00:14
  rules broken all the time. By the way.
• 1:00:16
  So which rule are we enforcing and when?
• 1:00:18
  And and that's not a new pair thing.
• 1:00:20
  I there are rules everywhere, right, Galesburg, wherever, like
• 1:00:23
  rules or rules, right. And so sometimes it's like.
• 1:00:26
  I don't know, you let that rule go.
• 1:00:27
  So why, you know, and again, this is not a specific new
• 1:00:30
  pairs. It's just sometimes those rules.
• 1:00:32
  I'm like, man, you got someone who's willing to give up their
• 1:00:34
  car and this is the championship night.
• 1:00:36
  Like it's not like a weekly night, right?
• 1:00:38
  This is the championship. And so, but I didn't I obviously
• 1:00:42
  didn't force it because it's not my it's not my rule book, but
• 1:00:45
  it's like, man, if ever can get on.
• 1:00:47
  So let's you know, Josh Summers to do that.
• 1:00:48
  That was incredible because again, that shows the community,
• 1:00:51
  right? You know, that, hey, like, I
• 1:00:53
  know this is bigger than me. I've raced here a couple times
• 1:00:56
  this year. Haley's literally in the
• 1:00:57
  championship chase. Like let's get her a car, let's
• 1:01:00
  get her on the track, and let's finish this where it should be
• 1:01:02
  finished, and that's on the track.
• 1:01:04
  So I didn't want to forget that point that, you know, Josh
• 1:01:07
  Summers offered that. So kudos to him because he
• 1:01:10
  didn't have to, right? No one had to.
• 1:01:12
  Yeah. I thought it was awesome when I
• 1:01:14
  was. Told about that I'm like I not
• 1:01:17
  that I would have honestly, I would never expect that on
• 1:01:19
  anybody. Like, no one, especially like
• 1:01:23
  someone who you don't know how they're going to run your car,
• 1:01:26
  you know, like. I don't know it.
• 1:01:27
  Takes a lot for someone to offer that up.
• 1:01:30
  Yeah, 'cause I mean, anything could happen in any given
• 1:01:32
  moment, right? And it'd be like, Hey, this is
• 1:01:34
  this is a bigger moment than any of us right now.
• 1:01:36
  And so I'm again, just big kudos to Josh Thomas and and, you
• 1:01:40
  know, for offering that opportunity.
• 1:01:42
  But that's when you came back out, the crowd was excited, a
• 1:01:44
  huge, I mean, a big round of applause and cheer because
• 1:01:48
  again, it was that was really just again, sad to see when it
• 1:01:53
  happened. And I know there's a brake
• 1:01:54
  check, right? Like the field kind of checked
• 1:01:57
  up and you just kind of hit it at the right spot at the wrong
• 1:02:00
  time or wrong spot, right time, whatever, how much weight we
• 1:02:02
  want to go with it. So when we're at this moment now
• 1:02:07
  thinking of who did that in the pit area, who are the sponsors
• 1:02:10
  who are on your car this year that have helped you, You know,
• 1:02:13
  both you and your dad get to the track.
• 1:02:15
  Hold on. Yeah, you're allowed to read, by
• 1:02:18
  the way, doing. This, yeah.
• 1:02:19
  As the fill in announced with the new pair of Speedway, the
• 1:02:21
  list is long. OK, so for one, I want to I
• 1:02:28
  thank my mom, my dad, my grandpa Zach, Christopher Jazz just for
• 1:02:33
  the, you know, the weekend week out support the help, you know,
• 1:02:37
  any, everything, you know, anything, everything under the
• 1:02:39
  sun. And then R&B Car Company,
• 1:02:42
  Milligan's Auto Plus, DC Garage Door, Depew Auto Group, Hoax
• 1:02:47
  Graphics, Tough Guy Enterprises, Davis Family Racing, Dirty D
• 1:02:50
  Motors, Brand Roofing, BNS Logistics, and I want to say I
• 1:02:56
  covered them. Brand Roofing.
• 1:02:59
  I maybe said that already. There you go twice.
• 1:03:01
  So he got it. He got a shout out.
• 1:03:03
  His money's worth, yeah. Yeah, so cuz I mean, obviously
• 1:03:07
  it takes a lot of people, especially St.
• 1:03:09
  Stock racing, right? So, So what are your plans?
• 1:03:12
  Obviously you're in the street stock, but do you have any like
• 1:03:15
  your dad did outlaw late model racing?
• 1:03:17
  Do you think you would ever want to do limited late model racing
• 1:03:20
  or outlaw late model racing? Or are you pretty happy and
• 1:03:23
  content and the OK? Maybe not happy, All right.
• 1:03:26
  You're pretty content in the street stock, right?
• 1:03:28
  Because I know obviously we got work on the confidence part.
• 1:03:31
  So maybe I, you know, So what, what are your plans like?
• 1:03:34
  Where do you see your career going as it continues to unfold?
• 1:03:39
  So I definitely want to stay in a so St. stocks are my favorite
• 1:03:42
  class like period dot like I will always probably the rest of
• 1:03:47
  my racing career, at least try to have one.
• 1:03:50
  So that's obviously like my favorite and I'm very content in
• 1:03:53
  in that class right now. I don't know.
• 1:03:56
  I think, you know, give me a couple of years and if we still
• 1:03:59
  had outlaws, maybe I would jump in one if dad was cool with it.
• 1:04:02
  But as of right now, now I'm like fully focused on the street
• 1:04:06
  stock. I probably wouldn't if someone
• 1:04:11
  if he were to be like next year, like, hey, do you want no, not
• 1:04:15
  at this moment, No, maybe like 4 year.
• 1:04:18
  Give me another couple. Years like.
• 1:04:19
  You know, maybe, but yeah, at least that full time.
• 1:04:24
  When a lot of people, I mean, you have a lot of late model
• 1:04:27
  drivers who have gone, I don't want to say go back because I
• 1:04:31
  don't I don't want to make it seem like it's a downgrade, but
• 1:04:34
  who have stepped over to the street socks and they're like
• 1:04:37
  they're more fun. You know, Steve Stacy said that
• 1:04:40
  in the past who obviously he too has championships and all that
• 1:04:43
  kind of deal. Like he's loved the street sock
• 1:04:46
  where I think this is the first year really that he's gotten the
• 1:04:49
  late model as many times as he has in a in a while.
• 1:04:52
  But, but that's what I was wondering because it's like, I
• 1:04:54
  know the Outlaws are there, although I think you guys did
• 1:04:57
  sell one. Yeah, we have one still.
• 1:05:00
  So I, I know obviously he's talked a little bit about that
• 1:05:04
  and, and having an outlaw. So that's where I'm like, I
• 1:05:06
  wonder if you'd ever jump in that because obviously template
• 1:05:09
  racing really isn't staying around.
• 1:05:10
  And I know he raised templates for a little bit too.
• 1:05:14
  So with that Buju, did you have any other questions?
• 1:05:16
  Because I know, like I said, I've, I know I've asked a lot,
• 1:05:18
  but my, my brains racing as I'm going through the questions.
• 1:05:22
  Back in new Paris next year are playing still in the air.
• 1:05:24
  What's next year looking like? I definitely love to go back to
• 1:05:28
  New Paris. I and well, I enjoyed racing.
• 1:05:30
  There's a Hornet that was one reason why I wanted to go back.
• 1:05:33
  Plus my dad, you know, he's very firm on the fact that if you can
• 1:05:37
  race New Paris, you can get around there, you can get around
• 1:05:39
  anywhere. So when I got the street stuck,
• 1:05:41
  it was very important for to him for me to go over there.
• 1:05:45
  And I, I enjoyed myself. I enjoyed the staff, the people
• 1:05:50
  there, the racing. I don't, I don't know, I enjoyed
• 1:05:53
  it. I will definitely go back.
• 1:05:55
  Yeah. Any plans for bigger big races
• 1:05:58
  next year? Maybe Ravers, Rumble, something
• 1:06:00
  like that. I might attempt the flagger boy,
• 1:06:04
  I don't know. As far as this year, I would
• 1:06:09
  like to go to the Showdown at South Bend, but that's my home
• 1:06:12
  track so I would love to go back there.
• 1:06:14
  Yep, where a lot of history too for your dad and your
• 1:06:18
  grandfather, right? I mean, just ball racing in
• 1:06:21
  South Bend Motor Speedway or South Bend Speedway, right?
• 1:06:24
  Just go hand in hand, so and I know.
• 1:06:27
  Do you have any memories of your Sorry to cut you?
• 1:06:28
  Off Oh no, no, you. Have any memories of your
• 1:06:30
  grandpa are racing or no? I don't.
• 1:06:33
  No, you missed out. I, I know when I was really
• 1:06:37
  young, my dad would take the old El Camino that he would run to
• 1:06:42
  like not a destruction event, but that's like the only other.
• 1:06:46
  Than I wasn't sure how the years lined up, but yeah, he was.
• 1:06:49
  He was wild to watch sometimes, as you could probably imagine.
• 1:06:53
  Well, 'cause wasn't he? Didn't he landed in the turn
• 1:06:56
  through bleachers? Wasn't he one of the drivers who
• 1:06:58
  did? Or was that a Hannah?
• 1:06:59
  That could be that was a Hannah that.
• 1:07:02
  Was OK, I know you're talking about but I thought I.
• 1:07:03
  Wouldn't be surprised if Rick did it too.
• 1:07:05
  Yeah, I felt like I felt like Rich talked about something,
• 1:07:09
  something like that one time and I can't remember.
• 1:07:12
  And I've tried, but but with that, right, you know, obviously
• 1:07:16
  we continue to hope for your dad to maybe find time to sit and
• 1:07:19
  relax a little bit too. But, you know, because watching
• 1:07:23
  him race is still always fun. And and he's been a huge
• 1:07:27
  supporter of Chris and Tracy too.
• 1:07:29
  So, you know, that's where you know, when you have an
• 1:07:32
  endorsement like Rich Bowl giving it to New Paris, that's
• 1:07:35
  where I wish more and more drivers would share their
• 1:07:38
  experience because I don't think, you know, Chris and Tracy
• 1:07:41
  are are sometimes getting the credit that they do deserve.
• 1:07:43
  I mean, they're keeping a track open that, you know, I'm sure
• 1:07:47
  some developer at some point might come to them with all that
• 1:07:50
  farm field around there and offer a nice fat check.
• 1:07:52
  And they could just here you go, here's the keys and walk away,
• 1:07:55
  right? That, you know, your dad has
• 1:07:57
  been very vocal about. I love my time at New Paris.
• 1:07:59
  They've treated me with nothing but respect.
• 1:08:01
  And that and then hearing you say that.
• 1:08:03
  And we have a lot of people watching right now to hear like,
• 1:08:06
  you know, I know people have perception of New Paris in the
• 1:08:09
  past. And obviously even in that
• 1:08:11
  moment in day, there might be times where people are mad that
• 1:08:14
  day at New Paris. Like you might even be mad one
• 1:08:16
  of these days, like, man, this place, you know, but then it's
• 1:08:18
  like, OK, adrenaline, all the things, right?
• 1:08:21
  Like, you know, I still love it here.
• 1:08:23
  And so I'm gonna hear you even say you're positive.
• 1:08:26
  It's like, that's the kind of stuff that we need more and more
• 1:08:28
  people to say about new Paris, that it's not what it was five
• 1:08:33
  years ago, six years ago, seven years ago.
• 1:08:35
  Like, you know, they're, they're, they're said they
• 1:08:37
  sometimes take it on the chin for the, for what they've had to
• 1:08:40
  do. But they've they've definitely
• 1:08:42
  made it an environment where people can be a part of the
• 1:08:44
  staff works well together. So it's like, man, just so
• 1:08:47
  hearing you say that, I'm glad you know, to hear your
• 1:08:50
  experience there and that you look forward to coming.
• 1:08:52
  So I know Chris is in here watching.
• 1:08:54
  So just to be clear, I'm sure Chris did not pay you any money
• 1:08:59
  out of the table to. Say this is not a paid
• 1:09:01
  endorsement by the new pair of Speedway.
• 1:09:03
  But he did wonder about Trifecta on September 19th, Saturday.
• 1:09:07
  If I know you didn't do the two Trifecta races yet, but maybe
• 1:09:12
  September 19th, come on out. It's the final race at New
• 1:09:15
  Paris. Weekly regular racing at New
• 1:09:17
  Paris maybe? I'll say maybe.
• 1:09:21
  Maybe it'll. Just yeah, it'll depend on, it's
• 1:09:24
  like I said, I, I would really, I, I'd really love to go to
• 1:09:27
  South Bend. So I guess it would probably
• 1:09:29
  just honestly depend if the car got tore up there.
• 1:09:32
  Well, we're gonna hope not for that.
• 1:09:34
  Everybody behave at South Bend on this.
• 1:09:36
  Wall. Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  Well, so you'd be South Bend in the Hornet, right?
• 1:09:41
  Because didn't you race the Hornet at South Bend?
• 1:09:43
  A couple? No.
• 1:09:44
  Yes. No.
• 1:09:44
  Yeah, so my rookie, my first ever season racing was like the
• 1:09:48
  last full season of South Bend. So I raced there the full year
• 1:09:52
  in the Hornet and then last year, the year before, whenever
• 1:09:57
  they did like that last lap, I went there for that in the
• 1:10:02
  Hornet. And then 4th of July, Misty
• 1:10:05
  Gardner let me get back in my old Hornet and I went there to
• 1:10:08
  race. So in a straight suck, I haven't
• 1:10:10
  raced there, I'm kinda nervous, but I was a blast in the Hornet
• 1:10:14
  so. Again, your dad is right.
• 1:10:16
  A lot of people say this too, but your dad definitely is
• 1:10:18
  right. If you can race at new Paris,
• 1:10:21
  there are a lot of places you can race just because it's, it's
• 1:10:25
  a technical track in a lot of ways.
• 1:10:26
  You get, you know, getting through one and two.
• 1:10:29
  I mean, you, you were at the tail end of Chloe coming on and
• 1:10:31
  talk a little bit about how it, how it feels that you should
• 1:10:34
  race new Paris versus the reality of racing new Paris.
• 1:10:37
  And so, so again, if, if you can do that, like I'd love to see
• 1:10:41
  you someday come up to Kalamazoo and give that a shot and race
• 1:10:44
  with that group of St. Stocks and, and see how you do
• 1:10:48
  with them and, and just get that experience right.
• 1:10:51
  Like Cody Lawler has done that this year where I think he's
• 1:10:55
  made a lot of gains in doing that, where the couple trips he
• 1:10:58
  made, right, he was off the pace to everyone else.
• 1:11:01
  But this year he's been right with them.
• 1:11:02
  And so including doing really well in the ravers until his
• 1:11:06
  fall start. That kind of changed that race
• 1:11:08
  for him. But but it's like you get up
• 1:11:11
  there and then if you can race Kalamazoo, you'd be able to go
• 1:11:15
  just about anywhere and probably beat some butt while you're
• 1:11:18
  doing it. So, so again, I know you've had
• 1:11:22
  a busy weekend. I, when I message where when you
• 1:11:26
  messaged me yesterday, I'm like, I could just imagine your inbox
• 1:11:29
  and, and I know you still probably have messages to catch
• 1:11:32
  up on. That's why I'm like, I'm sending
• 1:11:33
  this at 1:00 tomorrow. That's my routine.
• 1:11:35
  But cuz then I at least like to be somewhat near the top of the
• 1:11:38
  inbox. But again, you, I, you have so
• 1:11:42
  many people in your corner. So just keep going out control
• 1:11:46
  what you can control and within that circle, because you're,
• 1:11:49
  you're doing better than I think you think you're doing.
• 1:11:52
  So you know, just, but I know at the end of the day, it's not
• 1:11:55
  what we think. At the end of the day, it has to
• 1:11:57
  be what you're thinking. So because you're the one behind
• 1:12:00
  the wheel, but just know that the person behind the wheel
• 1:12:03
  knows what they're doing and is doing just a absolutely
• 1:12:06
  fantastic job at it. So thank you.
• 1:12:08
  You're doing because you're, you're, you have one of what is
• 1:12:12
  going to be many track championships in your career.
• 1:12:16
  And that feature is common. It's, I mean, you were close a
• 1:12:18
  few weeks ago and they say the hardest 1 to get is the first
• 1:12:22
  one, but I have a feeling once you get that one, Haley's taking
• 1:12:27
  over, it's going to be the Haley Tour.
• 1:12:29
  So again, congratulations on your 2026 Monte's Tire St.
• 1:12:34
  Stock new pair Speedway Track championship and Rookie of the
• 1:12:38
  Year Clint Sweep. I don't know if that happens too
• 1:12:41
  often either that you get rookie, someone gets rookie of
• 1:12:43
  the year and a championship in the same year.
• 1:12:45
  First one a new pairs apparently.
• 1:12:47
  Yep. So, so again, congratulations
• 1:12:50
  Haley on that. Yeah, congratulations.
• 1:12:52
  No, again, thank you and thank you for coming on tonight.
• 1:12:54
  Oh, thank you for having me. Oh, you're hey, it's our honor
• 1:12:59
  to have Someone Like You on here.
• 1:13:01
  So again, we've we've. Lewis will send your check in
• 1:13:04
  the mail. Yeah.
• 1:13:06
  I mean, we've talked about you a lot on, you know, between
• 1:13:09
  Mondays and Thursdays, you know, because you're definitely
• 1:13:12
  impressive out there. So enjoy it.
• 1:13:15
  Well, you know, just take a moment and enjoy that
• 1:13:17
  championship. Yeah.
• 1:13:19
  All right. Oh, no.
• 1:13:20
  Again, thank you again. We've been talking with Haley
• 1:13:23
  Bowl. She is the official 2026
• 1:13:26
  Monteith Tire St. Stock track champion at the new
• 1:13:29
  Paris Speedway. It sounds like you'll get to see
• 1:13:32
  her next at the South Bend Motor Speedway Showdown.
• 1:13:36
  Buju, what are the dates on that?
• 1:13:37
  I obviously I'm out of the loop. That would be.
• 1:13:41
  The weekend of September 12th so.
• 1:13:43
  All right, so hey, if you're not at the night of destruction at
• 1:13:47
  Kalamazoo or at New Paris, it sounds like you should be down
• 1:13:51
  at South Bend to watch the showdown.
• 1:13:53
  I'll be racing as well. I believe so.
• 1:13:55
  But you don't count. My track record, that's only a
• 1:14:00
  couple. Laps at a time, so.
• 1:14:03
  So go watch Haley. Who?
• 1:14:04
  That's who we're advertising right now.
• 1:14:05
  We're advertising. Race and I'll make an appearance
• 1:14:07
  as well. So Buju will be there pretending
• 1:14:11
  to be race car driver like he does a lot of the time.
• 1:14:13
  So again, just busting on Buju a little bit.
• 1:14:17
  I haven't had a chance to do that in a while.
• 1:14:19
  But before we bring on Kyle, Drew Jack wants me to do a
• 1:14:23
  little bit of a drawing here. And I know Kyle, he's been in
• 1:14:26
  the chat area for or staging area for a little bit.
• 1:14:28
  So I'm ready to bring on Flipper, which I will address
• 1:14:30
  him as Flipper because that's how he addresses himself as his
• 1:14:33
  flipper. So so it's kind of like how you
• 1:14:35
  don't go by Brandon, you go by Buju.
• 1:14:37
  So all. Right, we got a flipper coming
• 1:14:39
  on next. Yeah, so, so I I'm.
• 1:14:42
  Excited. I'm excited to learn about.
• 1:14:43
  Kyle slash flipper I. I know the name and I've
• 1:14:46
  definitely seen him race a few times.
• 1:14:47
  So. Curious to learn the name.
• 1:14:49
  The guy behind the name, Yeah. Well, because I even went
• 1:14:52
  through and I watched a bunch of his videos too, because I've
• 1:14:54
  called him Kyle numerous times, right?
• 1:14:55
  But then I'm like, OK, every video though, he addresses
• 1:14:58
  themselves, his himself as Flipper.
• 1:15:00
  So I'm just calling him Flipper even though the graphic will
• 1:15:03
  have his real name on there too. I'm like, I if that's what he
• 1:15:07
  calls himself, that's what we're going to, that's what we're
• 1:15:09
  going to call him. That's at least what I'll call
• 1:15:11
  him. You can call him whatever you
• 1:15:12
  want, but you guys can, you can tussle, you know.
• 1:15:15
  Just remember though, he has an outlaw that can chase down that
• 1:15:17
  Hornet. Yeah, you're you can chase down
• 1:15:21
  my Hornet on. Foot So let's go ahead and do
• 1:15:25
  this wheel of names for Drew Jack.
• 1:15:26
  So is it showing the ad? It's an ad shoot well.
• 1:15:31
  No free ads. There we go.
• 1:15:33
  It's going now. Well, you never know when you go
• 1:15:35
  to websites like this, you never know what they're going to show
• 1:15:37
  either. So it's kind of one of those
• 1:15:38
  like you just don't, I don't want to take a risk and, you
• 1:15:42
  know, be advertising something that we shouldn't be advertising
• 1:15:45
  because that would be my damn luck.
• 1:15:46
  So anyways, let's, I don't know how many I'm supposed to do for
• 1:15:50
  Drew. So what?
• 1:15:51
  Here's what we're going to do. We're going to just, we're going
• 1:15:53
  to pick three names and, and Drew can figure it out because
• 1:15:56
  he didn't give me the directions.
• 1:15:57
  So you said can you do, can you do this for me on the show?
• 1:16:01
  And I said yes. So we'll do three.
• 1:16:03
  If it's one, it's one. If it's two, it's two.
• 1:16:04
  If it's three, it's three. We'll let Drew figure it out.
• 1:16:06
  Sound fair? Sounds fair.
• 1:16:08
  Is he in the chat? Not in the chat.
• 1:16:10
  So we're making up the rules as we go.
• 1:16:11
  That's right. We made it up and the points
• 1:16:14
  don't matter. Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Yeah, so the first person to receive Chris, I want to make
• 1:16:20
  sure it's going to stop by Chris.
• 1:16:22
  Oh, is it going to? Oh, wow.
• 1:16:24
  I'm like just a figure. Just one, just one, Andy said.
• 1:16:27
  Just one. So Chris Elwell is our winner.
• 1:16:29
  Oh, OK, All right. Who said just one?
• 1:16:32
  Andy Drew, sorry. Oh, OK, Sorry.
• 1:16:35
  Yeah, Yeah, I call him Drew. He's been Andy for me too.
• 1:16:39
  He was Andy to me for too long. He's Andy forever.
• 1:16:42
  I'm like, because I didn't see the post, I didn't see anything.
• 1:16:44
  I'm not really been on Facebook today.
• 1:16:45
  I've had a lot of other fish to fry and this has not been one of
• 1:16:48
  them. So, so Chris out well in 95
• 1:16:51
  front wheel drive. He's raced out of Cal at
• 1:16:54
  Kalamazoo a couple times. Again, this is for Birch Run.
• 1:16:56
  So that is our that's our winner there.
• 1:17:00
  So former spring spring, Oh my gosh, they're making up Birch
• 1:17:04
  now. Spring port racer as well.
• 1:17:06
  That's where I got to know Chris.
• 1:17:07
  A lot is over at Spring Port. So so I I'm excited because he's
• 1:17:12
  he's got a different card than what he's had in the past and
• 1:17:14
  he's been booking it. So I know he's had some tough
• 1:17:16
  luck, but but yeah, so they're going over to Birch Run.
• 1:17:21
  So if you're not going to Birch Run on Friday, obviously
• 1:17:25
  calendars you will have their championship night.
• 1:17:27
  And just so everyone remembers calendars you as a tradition and
• 1:17:30
  I I love it. I love this features only,
• 1:17:32
  especially on championship nights, because heat races won't
• 1:17:35
  determine the champion. The features will determine the
• 1:17:37
  champion. So there's a couple times that
• 1:17:40
  new Paris on Saturday. I'm like, do they not remember
• 1:17:42
  that the race of their championship?
• 1:17:43
  You know, like why are we crashing in the heat race?
• 1:17:46
  And that that got frustrating because I'm like, you know, This
• 1:17:49
  is why I hate heat races on a championship program night or
• 1:17:53
  big night. It's like heat races ruin it.
• 1:17:56
  And and I get it, you know, I hear Tim Craig in my head.
• 1:17:59
  Well, I'm here to race. I'm not here to just do a
• 1:18:00
  feature. Well, you know, he had bad luck
• 1:18:03
  in the heat race and his night almost could have ended there.
• 1:18:06
  So it's like, if it's going to end, it might as well end in the
• 1:18:08
  future. But so Callum is used to in
• 1:18:10
  features only. That's what they do every
• 1:18:12
  championship night. This features only, unless
• 1:18:13
  something did change. Tina will correct me if I'm
• 1:18:15
  wrong, but that's what Donnie said.
• 1:18:17
  This features only and then obviously at the start of the
• 1:18:20
  year we always do features only. So I like that they make it
• 1:18:23
  matter. I'm guessing if it's in the
• 1:18:25
  past, if the futures might even be extended a few laps, that's
• 1:18:28
  usually what they do. So it's like racing a heat race,
• 1:18:30
  but it's in the future where the points matter.
• 1:18:33
  At Kalamazoo we give just participation points for doing
• 1:18:35
  heat races, 10 points to everybody.
• 1:18:37
  It's like Oprah, you get 10 points and you get 10 points.
• 1:18:40
  First or last you get 10 points. So the heat race doesn't really
• 1:18:43
  do anything at Kalamazoo anyways.
• 1:18:45
  They do that because they have a throw out night.
• 1:18:47
  So I know because of the throw out, whether Matthew Elsie
• 1:18:50
  Junior is at Birch Run or he's at Kalamazoo, he is the champion
• 1:18:55
  because he can't. Yeah, he has a throw at night.
• 1:18:58
  And so Matt Elsie I believe is second is Scott Elsie's third,
• 1:19:03
  Tina Dick from Features only. So that's where as they are
• 1:19:05
  crashing each other in the heat races at New Parasol.
• 1:19:07
  I'm on the roof. Stop.
• 1:19:09
  This is not where you crash. I mean, crashing's not good
• 1:19:12
  anywhere, but not in a heat race.
• 1:19:14
  Come on, you get like 5 bucks for this.
• 1:19:15
  So, but everyone does things a little different so that they
• 1:19:20
  that's what they did. But I'm like, stop crashing.
• 1:19:23
  You muted yourself by the way. So 35 laps for the real world
• 1:19:28
  drive. So that's an extension for some
• 1:19:30
  of them. Late models usually go 35, but
• 1:19:33
  for limited late they'll go 35 and then shoe socks 35.
• 1:19:36
  It looks like it. Then 30 for the A feature, which
• 1:19:39
  that's five more laps in normal. B is five more laps than normal.
• 1:19:43
  They usually go 20, and then the C is usually 15 laps, so they're
• 1:19:47
  going 20. So see, it's like running a heat
• 1:19:49
  race, except you're doing in the future where the points matter.
• 1:19:51
  So anyways, Speaking of points matter, Flipper's been waiting
• 1:19:56
  around a little bit, so we're now a little bit behind.
• 1:19:58
  So let's go ahead and bring on Flipper and we can talk about
• 1:20:01
  his journey to the Kalamazoo Clash and of course everything
• 1:20:03
  that that he does with his YouTube.
• 1:20:07
  Program so again let's bring on Kyle slash flipper, who I will
• 1:20:11
  be referring to from here on out as flipper because that's how he
• 1:20:15
  calls himself so I want to make it right so so flipper again
• 1:20:18
  welcome to the Monday night rewind I know you said you were
• 1:20:21
  excited for this and I'm like it's it's an honor for me to
• 1:20:23
  have you on just like having you know we had Chloe and Haley to
• 1:20:26
  start it's like I always appreciate everyone who comes
• 1:20:28
  onto our program and his camera is also in that beacon group
• 1:20:33
  with Chloe so his his is one of the few that made it all the way
• 1:20:36
  to the end we get him parking in the pit as he talked about I
• 1:20:40
  think we have one gallon of fuel left so.
• 1:20:43
  No, I you, you made it to my end.
• 1:20:47
  We we were right. Now 5 to go SO5TO.
• 1:20:50
  Go. All right.
• 1:20:51
  Yeah. Because did you?
• 1:20:52
  Did you? So you ran out of fuel for sure.
• 1:20:55
  Yes. Oh yeah.
• 1:20:56
  Yeah, we got back and I I threw a little bit of fuel down the
• 1:21:00
  the throat there and she fired right up.
• 1:21:02
  So thankfully that's all it was. But yeah, so close.
• 1:21:09
  Well, and that's where you know, again, when you run a race like
• 1:21:13
  that, right, 125 laps, you never know what's going to happen
• 1:21:18
  because I know like a was it at Owosso this year that they had a
• 1:21:21
  late model race where I think it was at the beginning of the year
• 1:21:24
  where they ran more or maybe it's last year they ran more
• 1:21:27
  caution laps than they did actual feature laps just because
• 1:21:32
  one thing after another. So with the Outlaws, you just
• 1:21:34
  never, I always tell people it's one or the other.
• 1:21:37
  It's either going to be like green, green, green, green,
• 1:21:40
  green, green, green, you know, and it just goes forever and
• 1:21:42
  ever and ever. There's momentum, right?
• 1:21:44
  Or it's going to be like opposite end where it's just
• 1:21:47
  kind of caution filled. And and even though the clash, I
• 1:21:51
  think the clash had like 11 cautions total, it was really
• 1:21:54
  like 2 of them that really stretch it because that it was 2
• 1:21:58
  cleanups that were like 7 minutes each time.
• 1:22:01
  And so that's, I mean, that's 14 minutes of just, you know,
• 1:22:05
  circling around and, you know, it's kind of one of those that
• 1:22:09
  it just, it happens, right? Oh yeah, and, and me, I'm in my
• 1:22:14
  40s now. So 11 cautions I was OK with
• 1:22:19
  because I got to catch my breath a little bit.
• 1:22:22
  Well, and so for those, so while we catch our breath, right,
• 1:22:26
  because that's something that for you to even get to the clash
• 1:22:30
  was a really big deal. You did a tire waffle, which is
• 1:22:34
  the official word you can use on Facebook is waffle.
• 1:22:38
  If you use a different word, Facebook gets really hairy and
• 1:22:43
  you know, so we're not allowed to use those words.
• 1:22:45
  But yeah, so with the waffle, I know you did that.
• 1:22:47
  You had some people step up and give some extra prizes and all
• 1:22:49
  that. So why don't we start there of
• 1:22:52
  getting you to the clash and then we'll rewind it a little
• 1:22:55
  bit to for those who may not know who Flipper is and why
• 1:22:59
  flipper, Someone even said, you know, where does the name
• 1:23:01
  Flipper come from? Like there's even AI know you
• 1:23:04
  can't see in the photo but there's a a a plushie and the
• 1:23:08
  car with him if you want to tell Louie about that story too.
• 1:23:12
  So. So, so let's start with to get
• 1:23:15
  to the clash and then we'll rewind.
• 1:23:17
  All right, so kind of, I guess to start with getting to the
• 1:23:23
  Clash, what is the Clash to me? Well, my first time going to the
• 1:23:27
  Clash was with my son Bryce. He was, you know, about very
• 1:23:31
  tall and huge Kyle Busch fan and Kyle Busch was racing.
• 1:23:35
  It was his first time running the clutch.
• 1:23:37
  So we went and all these outlaw late models ripping around for I
• 1:23:41
  think it was 100 laps back and it's so cool.
• 1:23:44
  And it that's one of those shows that you sit there in the stands
• 1:23:48
  and you never sit there and go. Someday I'm going to be able to
• 1:23:50
  do that, especially not as a a young dad with the family and
• 1:23:54
  all that. Fast forward now my son's
• 1:23:58
  graduated. He, he's, he's starting his own
• 1:24:01
  life. I've got an opportunity to do
• 1:24:04
  something that I never thought I could.
• 1:24:08
  And at first I was looking forward to the clash.
• 1:24:11
  But you know, life happens and some stuff came up and, you
• 1:24:14
  know, you kind of have to make that decision.
• 1:24:17
  I can't do it. I, I might be able to, but if
• 1:24:19
  something goes wrong now I'm dipping into bill money and
• 1:24:23
  stuff like that. And that's don't do that, you
• 1:24:25
  know. Well, someone had put up a, a, a
• 1:24:28
  reply saying, well, why don't you have a raffle or waffle and
• 1:24:34
  I'll try anything once. And so I threw it up there.
• 1:24:38
  The craziest thing, people started buying spots.
• 1:24:41
  I never expected. I kind of expected it to just
• 1:24:44
  fizzle out and like, all right, well, we tried it and that was
• 1:24:46
  fun. So it snowballed.
• 1:24:49
  We started having some stuff donated for various spots and I
• 1:24:53
  think I sold, we had like 55 waffle spots and I sold most of
• 1:24:57
  them. I think 30 of some of them, at
• 1:24:58
  least enough to get me to the tires.
• 1:25:01
  I sold some race car parts and and it worked.
• 1:25:06
  We ended up going to the Clash again.
• 1:25:09
  This is a race where I sat in the grandstands and I never
• 1:25:13
  would have thought 10 years down the road I'm going to be on that
• 1:25:17
  track doing that with those guys.
• 1:25:20
  Let alone the fact that I got Terry Seneker on the track with
• 1:25:24
  me. I got Andy Bozell blowing my
• 1:25:27
  doors off all of all of the names that I used to watch and I
• 1:25:33
  get to watch them a lot closer now.
• 1:25:37
  It was so cool, man. I was so excited for it.
• 1:25:40
  We went there, we had one goal. We just wanted to make it to the
• 1:25:43
  future. We wanted to make the feature
• 1:25:47
  very under budget team, very under powered car.
• 1:25:51
  I'm out there having fun. I no unrealistic expectations.
• 1:25:55
  I know what we have. And so my goal is to just make
• 1:25:58
  the feature and at the driver's meeting they go well, there's 28
• 1:26:01
  of you in my stomach immediately goes, oh, this is going to be
• 1:26:05
  tough. We're starting all of you.
• 1:26:07
  Yay awesome. So yeah, of course I get on
• 1:26:13
  Facebook and like we made the clash and then went, I better
• 1:26:16
  make sure I actually turn all the laps and make it to the
• 1:26:19
  feature. But we did, you know, when when
• 1:26:24
  you're a budget team, you have to be very patient and you have
• 1:26:28
  to save money where you can, which means a lot of used part
• 1:26:31
  used parts also kind of come with a little bit of a Gray
• 1:26:34
  area. So making the feature sometimes
• 1:26:37
  is is a big feat. But I mean, not only do we make
• 1:26:43
  it, we were in 100 and 20 laps of the the 125 lap feature
• 1:26:47
  before we ran out of fuel. It was crazy because about lap
• 1:26:52
  80, I thought something was wrong with the car because I'm
• 1:26:55
  going around under caution. It's grinding.
• 1:26:58
  What in the world? No, it's my my helmets laying
• 1:27:02
  against the I couldn't hold my head up anymore.
• 1:27:05
  The G forces were so much. I just I'm yeah, laying it
• 1:27:09
  against there and like what's. Oh, so, but then it became I was
• 1:27:13
  on a mission. It was just I'm finishing this
• 1:27:15
  thing and such a cool experience.
• 1:27:21
  And on that note, I got to thank, you know, I got to thank
• 1:27:24
  my wife because she puts up with it and encourages it, which
• 1:27:29
  encouraging this in me. Bad combination, but she's OK
• 1:27:34
  with it. And, and, and I married her
• 1:27:37
  obviously. You know, I got to thank my son.
• 1:27:43
  He came out, he was there at the Clash before me.
• 1:27:47
  He already had a spot honed out and everything.
• 1:27:49
  He was excited. Huge help.
• 1:27:52
  So thank you to Bryce. One of my sponsors, Union City
• 1:27:55
  Speed Shop, John and Betty Culp showed up.
• 1:27:58
  They were in my pits helping out.
• 1:28:00
  God, we had fun. Bottom line, I, you know, we
• 1:28:04
  finished I think officially 19th and I think you'd have a hard
• 1:28:08
  time finding someone that finished better, that had more
• 1:28:10
  fun then it just it was such a cool experience.
• 1:28:14
  It was such a blast so. Well, even talking with you
• 1:28:19
  after the race, right, like, I mean, you're in great spirits
• 1:28:22
  and and you the way that I kind of described it to someone, I
• 1:28:26
  said he is who he is, right? You're always energetic.
• 1:28:30
  You're all, and I mean that in a good way, right?
• 1:28:32
  Like you're like any time I've ever interacted with you,
• 1:28:35
  whether it's at Springport or wherever, you're always, you
• 1:28:38
  just always seem to be in a good mood, right?
• 1:28:40
  And I'm sure there are things that might make you mad or
• 1:28:41
  frustrated or angry. We all are human.
• 1:28:43
  We all have that. But I've not had a chance to
• 1:28:47
  wow, besides that, besides the F17 behind you, right?
• 1:28:53
  But but right, just watching you walk through, I mean, you're,
• 1:28:58
  you remind me a lot of like Joel, where Joel always seems
• 1:29:01
  happy at the track. He always seems to be in a good
• 1:29:03
  mood no matter what's going on. Even if he's kind of getting it
• 1:29:06
  taken on the channel a little bit, he's still like, OK, well,
• 1:29:10
  I'm just doing me right. And you know, even to have a
• 1:29:13
  camera with you and, and afterwards, like it's well, it's
• 1:29:16
  an honor for me to have one of your cameras.
• 1:29:17
  Like, no, like I get to ride with you, right?
• 1:29:19
  And that was really exciting for me just because I was watching
• 1:29:22
  your journey. And if I wasn't in a spot where
• 1:29:25
  I am financially, I definitely would have been jumping in on
• 1:29:27
  that to help you because it's like, man, those are the people
• 1:29:30
  who you cheer for and root for. Those are the people who you
• 1:29:33
  want to make the show because they're out there, you know,
• 1:29:36
  they know you were very upfront with everyone.
• 1:29:38
  Like I know I'm not running this race like, but it didn't stop
• 1:29:43
  you from going. It didn't stop you from racing.
• 1:29:46
  It didn't stop you from wanting to be there where you know,
• 1:29:50
  there are, there are sometimes drivers.
• 1:29:53
  And I'm not talking locally. It's just in broad general
• 1:29:55
  stroke like the bigger show, they're not going to go because
• 1:29:59
  that's there's competition, right.
• 1:30:01
  And that didn't seem to bother you one, but you're like, I
• 1:30:03
  don't care who I'm racing with. I get to race, I get to be there
• 1:30:06
  and it's the clash and it's prestigious.
• 1:30:08
  And so, so again, that was, it was just so fun watching it
• 1:30:11
  happen. I didn't know the story.
• 1:30:13
  I mean, I just learned it while you were telling it here.
• 1:30:15
  And I mean that to me, that is what racing is supposed to be.
• 1:30:19
  Like Lewis said, a lot of times people don't show up to these
• 1:30:21
  big shows because they know that it's a long shot that they're
• 1:30:25
  going to win. But when you were talking about
• 1:30:27
  just what the Clash means to you and what just being there meant
• 1:30:30
  and how great of a day it was just being part of the show,
• 1:30:33
  that's what racing is supposed to be.
• 1:30:34
  So thank you for sharing that. I don't even have a question for
• 1:30:37
  you. I just want to thank you for
• 1:30:38
  sharing that because that's an awesome story and
• 1:30:40
  congratulations on being part of it, man, That's awesome.
• 1:30:42
  Awesome. Thank you.
• 1:30:44
  I, I appreciate it. You know, and it kind of it, it
• 1:30:48
  was kind of surreal because after the race, yeah, I, I, I
• 1:30:53
  was running around the back of the pack.
• 1:30:55
  I, I could have got a little racy with the guys in front of
• 1:30:58
  me. I toward the end, I could
• 1:30:59
  actually hold with them a bit. And, but I don't know where I'm
• 1:31:02
  at lap wise and, and I'm lapsed down, man.
• 1:31:05
  Last thing you want to do is 'cause some sort of incident.
• 1:31:08
  Sorry, Adam, we hugged it out. It's OK.
• 1:31:16
  No, you don't want to cause an incident, stuff like that,
• 1:31:19
  especially if you're not even on that disease, guys.
• 1:31:21
  But yeah, so I hung around the back and after the race, I had
• 1:31:24
  people coming up to me, man, telling me we're rooting for you
• 1:31:28
  and all this me, I, I, I, I'm you're looking at the wrong end
• 1:31:34
  of the the the track there. But thank you.
• 1:31:38
  It was just kind of surreal. I thought that was just the
• 1:31:40
  coolest thing. Well, again, it's it's that
• 1:31:45
  story, right? It's kind of like when you think
• 1:31:47
  about, you know, like, let's say there's a a baseball team that,
• 1:31:52
  you know, wins all these tournaments and everything.
• 1:31:54
  And they barely have a budget to do that, but they have a chance
• 1:31:57
  to go to like the Little League, World Series or some kind of big
• 1:32:00
  thing, right? You people rally around, right?
• 1:32:02
  Let's help make this happen. And and again, it's for you know
• 1:32:07
  who you are as a person, the impression that you leave on a
• 1:32:10
  lot of people, the the joy that you just seem to have and what
• 1:32:14
  you do and how you do it. That sticks with people more
• 1:32:17
  than wins and features and big checks and big trophies.
• 1:32:20
  Like it's who you are as a person, right?
• 1:32:23
  And so I think that's that's where, right?
• 1:32:26
  And that's not saying that those other people who have those
• 1:32:28
  things aren't, you know, authentic and everything else
• 1:32:30
  either. But your people want to rally
• 1:32:34
  for the person who's the underdog, right?
• 1:32:37
  Like that's you see it in the college football, you see it in
• 1:32:40
  Pro Football, you see it in everywhere, right?
• 1:32:42
  Who's the underdog? That's who we that's who we kind
• 1:32:45
  of rally around, right? The support, get the troops
• 1:32:47
  around this guy or gal and let's help them, you know, get there.
• 1:32:51
  So, so again, the when I talked with Steve Stacy and we were
• 1:32:56
  wondering how many were there, I said, well, if there's 28 or so
• 1:32:59
  here, I said I would bet they start them all.
• 1:33:01
  I said we're not going to send home 2 cars.
• 1:33:03
  Basically. I said we started 25 a few years
• 1:33:05
  ago, which is the benchmark in my mind.
• 1:33:07
  So I'm like 3 cars. Is it going to be a good
• 1:33:09
  difference if they used to start 30?
• 1:33:12
  But I get it like that's payout and all that.
• 1:33:14
  So, but when I saw there's 28 and I'm like, and I didn't go to
• 1:33:18
  the drivers meeting, but I just had a gut feeling.
• 1:33:20
  I'm like, yeah, they're going to start them all there.
• 1:33:21
  I would be shocked if they didn't.
• 1:33:23
  So and and you know, you started towards the end, but you still,
• 1:33:28
  we're out there and you're still doing the Dang thing.
• 1:33:30
  So that's what matters, right? And that's why you have people
• 1:33:31
  behind you, because of who you are.
• 1:33:34
  Oh, I look at it this way. We spend way, way too much money
• 1:33:41
  on these things to not have fun. Like I've said multiple,
• 1:33:46
  multiple times, this this has been a dream of mine.
• 1:33:49
  This is something I never thought I could do.
• 1:33:52
  I don't care if I'm first last, I'm going to live in and I'm
• 1:33:57
  going to have a blast doing it. And and I want the people around
• 1:34:00
  me, you know, the guys that come down and help me in the the pits
• 1:34:04
  and stuff like that. I want them to have fun too,
• 1:34:06
  because they're a part of it, right?
• 1:34:09
  So yeah, it it's you got to have fun.
• 1:34:12
  It's way too expensive not to. Otherwise I don't know what are
• 1:34:16
  we doing. Right.
• 1:34:19
  So Speaking of fishing, you have a manatee that rides along with
• 1:34:24
  you, but you also go by the name Flipper.
• 1:34:26
  So this is the spot where like if you haven't heard our show
• 1:34:29
  before, we shoot first, aim second.
• 1:34:32
  Like we don't have scripts or anything that we follow.
• 1:34:34
  We kind of go wherever the conversation goes.
• 1:34:36
  So since you just said fishing, I thought Flipper, fish,
• 1:34:39
  manatee, all these things come together.
• 1:34:41
  So what, why don't we do that rewind part now where we go back
• 1:34:44
  to, you know, how did you get the name Flipper?
• 1:34:48
  You know, how long have you been racing and that kind of deal and
• 1:34:52
  why you're probably not fishing and you're racing an outlaw lay
• 1:34:55
  model. So, so kind of let's go that
• 1:34:58
  rewind part since you did just bring up fishing.
• 1:35:00
  I'm like, that's a perfect segue.
• 1:35:02
  That that was beautifully done. No, the nickname Flipper.
• 1:35:12
  When I first started racing back in 2000 I was racing a little 4
• 1:35:16
  cylinder truck over on the east side of the state.
• 1:35:19
  I was about £100 skinnier. I was just all arms, legs and
• 1:35:25
  big feet. I had a size 14 wide shoe and I
• 1:35:29
  weighed about £120 soaking wet. I'm walking through the house
• 1:35:34
  barefoot one day and my brother who's home on leave goes, Jesus,
• 1:35:40
  where'd you get those whale flippers next?
• 1:35:44
  Next thing I know, it's painted on the side of my race truck.
• 1:35:46
  It's painted on my helmet. Truth be told, I hated the
• 1:35:50
  nickname at first. Obviously it's grown on me a
• 1:35:54
  little since then, but by the end of the season, there are
• 1:35:58
  guys I've been racing with all year long that had, they didn't
• 1:36:00
  know what my real name was the the champion that year came up
• 1:36:04
  and hey, man, what's your real name anyways?
• 1:36:06
  It just, and it's, it's kind of been one of them things that
• 1:36:09
  stuck. And now obviously now I've I've
• 1:36:12
  grown to like it a little bit. So and then the manatee that you
• 1:36:18
  brought up totally separate from the flipper thing, my mom is, or
• 1:36:26
  what I should say was a cancer survivor.
• 1:36:29
  She had cancer four or five times.
• 1:36:34
  She moved down to Florida because she's a big she loves
• 1:36:37
  fishing. That was her thing.
• 1:36:38
  She loved fishing. So she moved down to Florida to
• 1:36:41
  fish and she loved the manatees while she was down there and so
• 1:36:47
  much so that she actually took me and at the time my
• 1:36:51
  girlfriend, I proposed to her on that specific trip, but at the
• 1:36:55
  time, my girlfriend on a swimming with the manatee
• 1:36:59
  excursion. It was just so cool, right?
• 1:37:02
  So Fast forward and Ma comes down with cancer again and they
• 1:37:08
  think it's actually from the radiation from one of the first
• 1:37:10
  go arounds from cancer. Long story short, she passed.
• 1:37:16
  She passed shortly before Thanksgiving last year, which is
• 1:37:20
  one of the things that kind of delayed this.
• 1:37:23
  But manatees and stuff with us was was kind of a thing.
• 1:37:26
  So at her celebration of life, my, my wonderful wife had
• 1:37:31
  brought this little stuffed manatee and had it around
• 1:37:34
  everything. So in a way, mom's with me in
• 1:37:38
  that manatee and zip tied it to the inside of my car.
• 1:37:43
  So I, I, yeah, that's, that's my way of, of having my mom ride
• 1:37:46
  around with me a little bit, if you will.
• 1:37:48
  So, and she kind of got me on a serious note there.
• 1:37:52
  I know, I'm sorry. Well, even the tone changed.
• 1:37:54
  I went. He went from excited to OK, now
• 1:37:56
  we're a little somber so we'll bring it back up.
• 1:37:58
  But I mean, just think of how proud, you know, we know she is
• 1:38:01
  that you got to race in the clash and she got to race with
• 1:38:05
  you at the clash and and be with you that entire time.
• 1:38:07
  And and again, that's just something that the story behind
• 1:38:12
  right, just brings everyone that brings it all together because
• 1:38:15
  in short track racing, think about, you know, I mean, yeah,
• 1:38:19
  it has NASCAR and all these things.
• 1:38:20
  We don't hear about it, right? They celebrated and in like
• 1:38:22
  October, because that's what that month says.
• 1:38:24
  It says all this is breast cancer awareness month, just
• 1:38:26
  like February's Black History Month.
• 1:38:27
  So check mark for the marketing team.
• 1:38:29
  OK, we did something Black History Month because it's
• 1:38:31
  February, right, Where in short track racing, there are no check
• 1:38:34
  marks or no, there's no itinerary, there's no calendar,
• 1:38:37
  there's no marketing ploy. It's, you know, we're, we're
• 1:38:41
  people who live everyday jobs, who, you know, do our best to
• 1:38:44
  get to the track with what we have and, and right, we're
• 1:38:46
  budget racing teams or budget whatever.
• 1:38:49
  Obviously there are some teams that have a little bit more
• 1:38:51
  backing than others, but even 2, they're on a budget at some
• 1:38:55
  point. Money is money, right?
• 1:38:57
  You know. And it does at some point, you
• 1:39:00
  know. You you can only crash so many
• 1:39:02
  times before you got to buy, right?
• 1:39:05
  And but it's one of those things, right?
• 1:39:07
  Like, again, that's where your story and it all comes together,
• 1:39:11
  right? That and why you have so many
• 1:39:13
  people who are behind you, whether it was that super shoe a
• 1:39:16
  few years ago when you race that super shoe and and I think
• 1:39:18
  that's when you debuted that late model, right?
• 1:39:20
  Is that super shoe or a? Late Model.
• 1:39:24
  Yeah, as I say, different. That's where I corrected.
• 1:39:26
  I'm like a late model. It wasn't that one, but it like,
• 1:39:31
  you know, you got to be a part of that.
• 1:39:33
  Yeah. Well, and then obviously then
• 1:39:35
  goes the way that you had hoped. There's a lot that went wrong
• 1:39:38
  for a lot of people at the start of that race, but but it that
• 1:39:43
  week. Sorry, no, no, no that that
• 1:39:47
  weekend I figured it out. It cost me almost $1000 a lap.
• 1:39:53
  Oh wow. That was a very expensive super
• 1:39:57
  show. Ouch.
• 1:39:59
  That's. Yeah, that's, yeah, that sounds.
• 1:40:04
  Good. No.
• 1:40:05
  So do you want to talk a little bit about your scheme then too
• 1:40:08
  because you did, you ran a similar scheme a few years ago
• 1:40:11
  too, right. So if you want to talk a little
• 1:40:13
  bit about, so do we get back on the high note here, you know a
• 1:40:18
  little bit about your scheme because the patriotic and that
• 1:40:21
  kind of deal where that comes from and some of the work that
• 1:40:25
  you do especially with Flippers garage?
• 1:40:28
  Yeah, so I had the the blue on the sides and the white on the
• 1:40:34
  top and stuff like that. And where I looked at it, you
• 1:40:36
  know, I grew up watching, I don't know if some of you might
• 1:40:40
  recognize the name gentleman by the name of Dave Stehauer.
• 1:40:44
  He had a another very patriotic looking late model I thought was
• 1:40:47
  kind of cool. So as I started to put this car
• 1:40:50
  together, that's what kind of kept rolling through my head.
• 1:40:53
  And on top of that, one of my friends that, that helped
• 1:40:56
  sponsor the car, he has a non profit called a veteran help and
• 1:41:00
  veteran. And it just it, it tied into it
• 1:41:03
  so well. And my brother's a, a, a Air
• 1:41:07
  Force vet, you know, I've got a bunch of friends who are
• 1:41:09
  veterans. So I just it, it was a no
• 1:41:12
  brainer for me. And the more, you know, as I've
• 1:41:16
  done vinyl for years and stuff, and as a vinyl guy, I always
• 1:41:20
  know when the design is good because I start getting excited
• 1:41:22
  about it when I'm putting it together and putting it on the
• 1:41:24
  car. And that's the way this thing
• 1:41:26
  was. The the more I put the vinyl on,
• 1:41:28
  I'm like, Oh, this is so cool, you know, and I'm sorry.
• 1:41:32
  It sounds like I'm Tooting my own horn.
• 1:41:34
  I know. No, no, me, I, But yeah, it, it
• 1:41:38
  just I, I, I love the way it laid together and, and the, the
• 1:41:41
  fan response to it has been incredible.
• 1:41:44
  I've had every race I've been to, I've had people after the
• 1:41:48
  races come up to me. Man, I love the paint scheme.
• 1:41:50
  I love the way the car looks. That's so cool.
• 1:41:53
  Thank you. Yeah, you know, like I said, the
• 1:41:58
  my one sponsor, veteran help and veteran, I guess I'll kind of
• 1:42:01
  segue on this. He's putting together a big
• 1:42:04
  program with the Berlin Raceway September 11th and 12th.
• 1:42:09
  They've got celebrating the the the 25th anniversary of
• 1:42:14
  September 11th, which me being a former firefighter, the
• 1:42:19
  September 11th always hits a little close to home.
• 1:42:22
  That was obviously the the, the World Tower and the Pentagon,
• 1:42:29
  you know, the attacks. And when that happened, 343
• 1:42:33
  first responders lost their lives.
• 1:42:35
  I know I'm getting back on a somber note here, but.
• 1:42:37
  We'll bring it back up. Yeah, it it's coming around.
• 1:42:40
  Just stay with anyways. 343 first responders lost their
• 1:42:45
  lives. When you become a firefighter or
• 1:42:46
  first responder, all of a sudden that stuff really starts to hit
• 1:42:50
  home to you. And Veteran Health and Veteran
• 1:42:52
  is putting together a big show at Berlin for the September 11th
• 1:42:56
  and 12th race, which is great because we're going to be racing
• 1:42:58
  there with this on the 12th. He's got the the nozzleman from
• 1:43:03
  Chapter 7. It's a motorcycle club.
• 1:43:05
  They're going to have a special 343 formation on the front
• 1:43:07
  stretch. There's the hooligan fly over.
• 1:43:11
  They're going to have a Humvee parade lap.
• 1:43:13
  Yeah, it's a lapse of honor at Berlin.
• 1:43:15
  That's September 12th and the September 11th.
• 1:43:18
  So nice little Segway and plug on that one.
• 1:43:22
  I'm excited about it. Obviously Berlin is such a cool
• 1:43:25
  track and to get to run one of these cars on it, I mean,
• 1:43:29
  especially this one with the small motor.
• 1:43:32
  We're we're we're at a huge disadvantage.
• 1:43:34
  But I don't care. It's it's important to my
• 1:43:37
  sponsor. It's important to my friend and
• 1:43:39
  I'm going to go out there and we're going to go and run as
• 1:43:41
  long as we can and we're going to have fun with it.
• 1:43:44
  And what's cool about Berlin and this is this.
• 1:43:47
  I, I, I wish more tracks promoted this after the races.
• 1:43:53
  It, it is just, it's a part of their culture.
• 1:43:55
  They mob the pits every then grandstands empty and everybody
• 1:44:00
  comes down pits and the drivers have left their cars out of the
• 1:44:05
  trailers. Nobody's loading up because the
• 1:44:08
  crowd's coming up getting autographs or getting pictures
• 1:44:11
  and stuff. I had kids in and out of the
• 1:44:12
  car. It was so cool.
• 1:44:14
  So if you do make it out to Berlin, make sure to stop by
• 1:44:18
  after the races. I'd love to see you.
• 1:44:20
  I'd love to hear from you. Check the car out.
• 1:44:22
  Yeah, it's going to be a fun time.
• 1:44:25
  Well, and that's where, you know, that's what I like about
• 1:44:27
  Kalamazoo. Right after the races, everyone
• 1:44:29
  comes down to the pit area. There's only a few tracks that
• 1:44:32
  don't allow fans in the pit area after the races and insurance
• 1:44:36
  things, whatever. But I'm like, I don't know, all
• 1:44:38
  these other tracks allow it. So it doesn't make sense to me.
• 1:44:41
  And they have the same insurance carrier.
• 1:44:43
  But you know, everyone has different rules and I understand
• 1:44:45
  that, but because there are only two insurance companies in the
• 1:44:48
  whole United States that does race tracks.
• 1:44:49
  So you, yeah, you have one or the other.
• 1:44:51
  So, but anyways, that's where I know a lot of people around your
• 1:44:55
  pit area too. And, and it's hard to believe 25
• 1:44:57
  years already for September 11th.
• 1:44:59
  I'm like, I'm now that you say that, I'm like, I kind of feel
• 1:45:02
  old. You know, I was in 8th grade
• 1:45:05
  when that happened. And and not to make other people
• 1:45:07
  maybe feel old who are listening, but it's like I
• 1:45:08
  remember that day. I was in second grade to make
• 1:45:10
  you feel old. Watch.
• 1:45:15
  This who's just going to disappear?
• 1:45:18
  No, I'm kidding. But like I can replay that day.
• 1:45:21
  It was hat day and the football team played Marshall that Friday
• 1:45:25
  and it was like, I can play all these things in my head, right
• 1:45:30
  That, you know, I was standing in this classroom when the tower
• 1:45:33
  fell. I was standing here when or I
• 1:45:34
  was sitting here when we were it was like 25 years, though.
• 1:45:38
  And, and what's funny but not funny because it's not obviously
• 1:45:42
  funny days, but there's so many people now who are alive who
• 1:45:48
  don't even know September 11th, right?
• 1:45:50
  Just like there are people who don't Pearl Harbor.
• 1:45:52
  We we have some who are just hanging on right but.
• 1:45:55
  Our first guess was 15 years old tonight, yeah.
• 1:45:57
  Yeah, that's crazy to think. Yeah.
• 1:46:00
  We got late, we got late model contenders that weren't 10
• 1:46:03
  years. Shy of yeah, that's.
• 1:46:04
  Crazy. So while they may hear about it
• 1:46:07
  and they may they may wonder because you can watch video, you
• 1:46:10
  can watch all that kind of deal and kind of see the day play
• 1:46:13
  out, but it still isn't the same, right.
• 1:46:16
  And so I think that's the thing that for Berlin to do, you know,
• 1:46:20
  something especially for for first responders and that sort
• 1:46:24
  of deal to have that and for you to be working, you know, with
• 1:46:28
  the veteran group who obviously they fought a long war after all
• 1:46:31
  that. I mean, that all, you know, that
• 1:46:33
  all comes into play because I sometimes think like for those
• 1:46:37
  of us who lived it and experienced it, right, it's
• 1:46:39
  still there. But how many of the lessons from
• 1:46:42
  the day that we've all forgotten as we've moved on with our
• 1:46:45
  lives, right? Like everything, we just move on
• 1:46:46
  with our lives. And you know, but it's one of
• 1:46:49
  those that, you know, where I where I was also going to go
• 1:46:53
  with that when you're saying sorry for the plug is that on
• 1:46:56
  Mondays, we always have a time in the show where we call it
• 1:46:59
  Mankind Monday because Mick Foley always said cheap plugs,
• 1:47:03
  right? You know, cheap pops where how
• 1:47:06
  we use Chicago, right? Like get the cheap plug because
• 1:47:10
  when you're faced, you got to get that right.
• 1:47:11
  So, so cheap plugs are definitely in play, especially
• 1:47:15
  on a Monday. We call it our mankind moment of
• 1:47:17
  the Monday so. As a former wrestling fan, I'm
• 1:47:23
  kind of glad I I filled that little category.
• 1:47:25
  Yeah, yeah, because last Monday we didn't get a cheap plug in at
• 1:47:29
  all. And I remembered it's, I think I
• 1:47:32
  remembered on Thursday when I was doing the Clash tickets
• 1:47:34
  where I'm like, hey, I didn't get a cheap plug on Monday, so
• 1:47:36
  I'm going to do all my cheap plugs tonight on Thursday.
• 1:47:39
  But so yeah, fair game, all cheap plugs matter.
• 1:47:42
  And because that's, you know, that's a Mick Foley throwback,
• 1:47:45
  so. So again, And for the other
• 1:47:48
  Jenner and Mick Foley was an old wrestler.
• 1:47:53
  He's still around, though. He's still a wrest.
• 1:47:56
  Well, he doesn't wrestle. But he doesn't say.
• 1:47:58
  What? Yeah.
• 1:47:59
  Well, he's with AEW now. He went to the other side.
• 1:48:02
  Yeah, he went to the other side of things.
• 1:48:04
  And so so. For dude love.
• 1:48:07
  Yeah, at this. Point he's with AARP.
• 1:48:11
  Yeah, yeah, he might even be sponsored by them.
• 1:48:13
  I don't know, but but yeah, so, so with that, when you think
• 1:48:18
  about your racing career, right, you know, obviously you're doing
• 1:48:22
  late models right now, but there was someone who commented, hey,
• 1:48:24
  didn't you used to race this? So I know you and Matt Kemp have
• 1:48:28
  like a background. And so if you want to talk a
• 1:48:30
  little bit about the different things that you have raced in
• 1:48:32
  your career. Man, I it it, it sounds like
• 1:48:40
  boasting, but I've been incredibly fortunate.
• 1:48:44
  I started out racing little 4 cylinder pickup trucks.
• 1:48:48
  That was the Class S 10s Rangers.
• 1:48:51
  There's a little Toyota from there.
• 1:48:53
  I've raced just about everything up to a late model.
• 1:48:58
  The only thing short track wise I haven't been behind the wheel
• 1:49:02
  of now is a modified and a Sprint car.
• 1:49:05
  They're both on my bucket list. Again, I'm just extremely
• 1:49:09
  fortunate. I used to race with the the
• 1:49:11
  short track Truck Series, used to travel around Michigan, Ohio,
• 1:49:15
  Indiana. Got to race some really cool
• 1:49:16
  tracks doing that. You guys were talking to Chloe
• 1:49:19
  about Winchester earlier. I got Grace there and such a
• 1:49:23
  cool experience. You know, funny thing about that
• 1:49:28
  is the old short track truck motor is what's in this.
• 1:49:32
  No kidding. This was built in 2006.
• 1:49:38
  It sat since 2008. All I did was prime it and throw
• 1:49:42
  some battle springs in it and the way we went.
• 1:49:45
  So I was crossing my fingers for 120 laps.
• 1:49:52
  Well, so while we even talk about that, right, we have a
• 1:49:57
  question in here. What's next on your bucket list?
• 1:49:59
  Since you did the Clash and your fingers obviously crossed long
• 1:50:02
  enough that you got almost all the way through that race,
• 1:50:05
  what's next for you? You know, right now I got to
• 1:50:10
  soak this up. I don't know how long I can do
• 1:50:13
  this. So I'm I'm going to live it up
• 1:50:15
  as much as I can. Sprint cars and modifieds, like
• 1:50:18
  I said, are on on my bucket list.
• 1:50:21
  Dirt late models. I mean, cool.
• 1:50:24
  You know, I one of the ones that I have tried and tried and it's
• 1:50:32
  been so close. I want to race against my son.
• 1:50:37
  We've been on the track at the same time but the the first time
• 1:50:41
  was Owosso with the mini cups and it rained.
• 1:50:44
  Oh no. They were this close, right went
• 1:50:48
  out to he he ended up driving a friend's car at the little
• 1:50:52
  Owosso, the dirt track, and I ended up pulling off with a
• 1:50:56
  couple laps in because the car just wasn't right.
• 1:50:59
  So we've been close, but that's one of the ones I, I really
• 1:51:02
  would like to do is I'd love to race against my son.
• 1:51:05
  To me, that's just, you know, that huge proud dad moment.
• 1:51:08
  And I can't wait to spin him out.
• 1:51:14
  Joking. You're joking.
• 1:51:16
  You know, having said that, inevitably it'll happen because
• 1:51:19
  of Murphy. But I just, I don't know, I'm,
• 1:51:27
  I'm living it up right now with this.
• 1:51:29
  Yeah. I'd I'd love the opportunity to
• 1:51:31
  race one of these other classes. Realistically, probably not
• 1:51:34
  going to happen it it just not within my budget.
• 1:51:37
  But man, one of the things that I I actually got to check off
• 1:51:42
  without really even realizing it this year.
• 1:51:45
  I always wanted to have one of my designs because I've done
• 1:51:49
  vinyl for since like 2006. I always wanted to have
• 1:51:55
  televised to me. That's just be so cool to see it
• 1:51:59
  on. Well, between flow and and and
• 1:52:03
  the racing America and these all these programs.
• 1:52:06
  This thing's been on TVI didn't even I mean very quick, you
• 1:52:10
  know, leader goes by and there I am, but it's been on TV, so I
• 1:52:16
  got to check that off. It counts.
• 1:52:18
  You know it counts. It is.
• 1:52:22
  It's like up there I am. OK, so that was one of the the
• 1:52:26
  items, you know, some of the more far fetched stuff driving a
• 1:52:33
  monster truck. I mean, again, this is this is
• 1:52:35
  up there, but I mean, how cool would that be?
• 1:52:38
  I I not a competition anything like that, but just to get
• 1:52:42
  behind the wheel and drive over something that'd be on a similar
• 1:52:48
  note, being an announcer, I'd love to call a monster truck
• 1:52:53
  show. You know, when I used to
• 1:52:56
  announce like at Springport and stuff, I used to have theme
• 1:53:00
  songs and theme music for the cars to pull out on.
• 1:53:02
  And you get the crowd going, which is great because you could
• 1:53:05
  just start a certain song and the crowd starts cheering your
• 1:53:09
  intro line. You're like, yeah, that, that's
• 1:53:12
  my line. But cool, you know, it's cool
• 1:53:16
  you get to do that with monster trucks in a big way, I mean.
• 1:53:20
  Yeah. Bad to the bone place.
• 1:53:22
  Everybody knows who that is, you know, Thunderstruck, this Blue
• 1:53:26
  Thunder that might be a little outdated now, but calling the
• 1:53:29
  Monster Truck tower would just be so cool.
• 1:53:31
  So that's definitely one of the things that's on my bucket list.
• 1:53:36
  Yeah, it just, I've been very fortunate.
• 1:53:39
  I've been able to cross a lot of really cool things off.
• 1:53:42
  You know, racing Super Shoot was one of those things back in the
• 1:53:48
  day. I was so close.
• 1:53:50
  We had the old short track truck ready.
• 1:53:52
  We were going to race, but then financials fell through because
• 1:53:55
  I went to college. So it just every time we tried
• 1:53:59
  to raise super shoes, something would fall through.
• 1:54:00
  And then the one year you guys were talking about Andy Jack,
• 1:54:05
  I'm, I'm sorry, we're going to go down story time here, but.
• 1:54:08
  I love it. I love Dream Jack stories
• 1:54:10
  though. I got, I got a message from Andy
• 1:54:14
  Jack and it's Friday of super shooting.
• 1:54:16
  It's like, hey, I got a car, You want to drive it?
• 1:54:20
  Yeah. And so I up at the track and
• 1:54:23
  it's not running. It's like, oh, it's just got a
• 1:54:26
  fuel pump switch. No, the fuel pump was was dead.
• 1:54:29
  So I'm like, oh, you know what way up here?
• 1:54:34
  Well, my buddy John Culp, Union City Speed Shop, he's there.
• 1:54:38
  He's got his late model and a front wheel drive 4 cylinder and
• 1:54:41
  he comes up and he's like, I'm having too hard a time jumping
• 1:54:45
  back and forth between the two. You want to drive the 4
• 1:54:48
  cylinder? Yeah, it's super cute.
• 1:54:51
  Drive anything right now. So I jump in and the the first
• 1:54:55
  practice session I got together with another car, ended up
• 1:54:59
  tangled up into the wall. I'm like, oh, come on it just so
• 1:55:03
  we get back into the fix, get the car fixed, cool, we're back
• 1:55:06
  at it. Long story short, ended up
• 1:55:09
  winning the heat race, ended up winning the future and it was a
• 1:55:13
  party afterwards we had a laugh. Super Shoot hasn't been quite so
• 1:55:20
  kind to me since then. Used up all your luck.
• 1:55:26
  Yeah, I, yeah, I did. I used it all up and and, and
• 1:55:29
  you know what's funny about that though, is having having raced
• 1:55:32
  all these different tracks and, and having run all these
• 1:55:35
  different races and now Kalamazoo Clash, that first win
• 1:55:39
  at Super Shoe still ranks us as one of my top three biggest wins
• 1:55:44
  in a little 4 cylinder car. Yeah.
• 1:55:48
  It doesn't matter the class man, have fun with it and make it
• 1:55:52
  your own. The the most fun I have racing
• 1:55:56
  is in these still little mini cup cars.
• 1:55:59
  Dollar for dollar most fun I've ever had racing.
• 1:56:03
  And you know what the best part about it is?
• 1:56:05
  You wipe the right front off the car, you're out 200 bucks.
• 1:56:09
  I don't 200 bucks in fuel in this thing right, right.
• 1:56:15
  So sorry, I kind of veered off. Hey, remember, shoot first, aim
• 1:56:22
  second. We go where we go, you know, we
• 1:56:24
  don't. We don't.
• 1:56:25
  That's why I mean, quite frankly, that's why we get a lot
• 1:56:28
  of compliments about the Monday Night Rewind is because it's a
• 1:56:31
  lot of people have said it's like sitting in a a pit area,
• 1:56:36
  you know, at a round a trailer or after the races or whatever,
• 1:56:39
  popping up in a cold one and just talking, right.
• 1:56:41
  So, so that's where you know, it's like we go where we go.
• 1:56:47
  That's part of the journey of each Monday night here.
• 1:56:49
  So that's what I could ask you a question.
• 1:56:53
  You could go off on a big tangent.
• 1:56:54
  I'd go are you a politician? Because you did that really
• 1:56:56
  well, right? But but no, I because this all
• 1:56:59
  matters, right? And how you're and why these
• 1:57:02
  moments stand out again, why people like you, why people
• 1:57:05
  support you, why people are behind you because of just what
• 1:57:09
  you represent right. So I think even someone in here
• 1:57:12
  it was Betty, I believe, and she's down at new Paris and
• 1:57:16
  Betty will tell you what she thinks by the way, she's you
• 1:57:18
  know, she does not hold back whatsoever.
• 1:57:21
  And that's what I love about her she's so sweet, but she'll
• 1:57:24
  definitely say it how it is and she's like, wow, love this
• 1:57:27
  flippers excitement. That's what our sport needs.
• 1:57:29
  When you have someone like a Betty Berkley giving you an
• 1:57:32
  endorsement, if you ever get a chance to come down to New Paris
• 1:57:34
  and meet her, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
• 1:57:37
  Like, she's so sweet, but I've also seen her get angry too.
• 1:57:41
  And I'm like, I'm staying on the roof because she's unhappy right
• 1:57:44
  now. And it's I'm not going to go
• 1:57:45
  experience that. But you know, for her to say
• 1:57:48
  something like that, that definitely stands out so.
• 1:57:53
  I take that as quite the compliment.
• 1:57:54
  Thank you, Betty. Yeah, from Betty for sure.
• 1:57:58
  And then, oh, this. OK, so, so Buju, I regretted my
• 1:58:02
  camera angle because Flipper has a thing, a mount on the side of
• 1:58:08
  his car. Here's the question.
• 1:58:11
  So what's up with the lights and the light model during pace
• 1:58:14
  laps? Actually, it's all race by the
• 1:58:16
  way, too. He did.
• 1:58:17
  I don't think you turned them off during the race.
• 1:58:19
  I think they were on the whole time.
• 1:58:21
  No, I have to turn them off. I I can't see Blair's too much.
• 1:58:26
  So maybe then. Because I'm like, I felt like
• 1:58:28
  they were on at some point in the race, but maybe not.
• 1:58:30
  Maybe I was seeing things, but it's like that blue is out there
• 1:58:32
  so. You know, I, I, I joke around,
• 1:58:41
  if you can't run up front, you got to get fans somehow.
• 1:58:44
  You got to be creative. So I put lights on the car.
• 1:58:48
  Really what it is is you turn the lights on.
• 1:58:53
  Every single kid in that grandstand's going.
• 1:58:56
  Yep. And that's just so cool.
• 1:58:59
  You know, you get the kids fired up about it.
• 1:59:01
  And I'm a big kid myself. I'm one of the guys in the
• 1:59:04
  grandstand going, you know, give them something to cheer for,
• 1:59:10
  give them something to get fired up about.
• 1:59:11
  The kids are going to love it. They're going to want to come
• 1:59:13
  back. So that's really what it is.
• 1:59:16
  It's just something kind of fun. And I I knew kids would love it
• 1:59:20
  so. I mean, it stood out to me when
• 1:59:22
  I noticed because I like, oh, maybe it was pay slash, I don't
• 1:59:26
  know. All I know is I'm like, hey,
• 1:59:28
  it's lit up. Not only is your car easy to
• 1:59:31
  find because it's blue and white and red and not black like most
• 1:59:35
  cars are, which I know is just easier for a lot of people with
• 1:59:38
  the black, but it stands out. It has different colors.
• 1:59:41
  Obviously that's a very patriotic theme, so that stands
• 1:59:43
  out too. But then the blue lights with
• 1:59:45
  it, I'm like, man, that is awesome.
• 1:59:47
  So cuz I, I even think I came up to him like I didn't know you
• 1:59:51
  had lights. I, I must have missed something
• 1:59:53
  somewhere because I'm like, that was just really cool.
• 1:59:57
  Instantly after I'm like, I should have put my mouth on the
• 1:59:59
  outside of the car because we could have got all those lights.
• 2:00:01
  So I remember that for sure. I said after the race, like,
• 2:00:04
  man, I missed an opportunity there to blue light special.
• 2:00:07
  That's what we talked about, you know, but he was also working on
• 2:00:10
  his car because they were fixing something.
• 2:00:11
  So I tried to not be in the way too long but.
• 2:00:14
  You're you're, you're not in the way and like I said before, it's
• 2:00:17
  an honor having you, you're riding along with us.
• 2:00:20
  I think that's so cool what you do the, the, the exposure you
• 2:00:24
  bring to the local racers is I don't think you give yourself
• 2:00:28
  enough credit. So thank you for that.
• 2:00:30
  As one of those local racers, and I said it clash, you know, I
• 2:00:35
  feel honored to have one of your cameras in my car.
• 2:00:38
  I, I, I appreciate what you do. I I think it's so cool.
• 2:00:41
  I love watching the videos, so my little props to you there.
• 2:00:46
  As far as on the outside of the car there, I mean super shoe.
• 2:00:51
  Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Well, that's because I'll start
• 2:00:55
  taking sign ups here in a couple weeks because I mean, if you
• 2:00:58
  think about it, we're almost what, a month away from super
• 2:01:01
  shoe now? I think it's a month, you know,
• 2:01:03
  a month from now. So it's like, I mean, we crown
• 2:01:06
  champions on Friday and then we have two weeks off and it's a
• 2:01:10
  night of destruction and then or one week off, 2 weeks off.
• 2:01:12
  I think it's two weeks off and then we have another week or so
• 2:01:15
  off and it's super shoe and it's just, it's crazy how it's
• 2:01:18
  already coming all the way, you know all.
• 2:01:21
  The way where did this go? I, I don't know, like that's the
• 2:01:26
  thing, even sitting in New Paris, which hasn't had a lot of
• 2:01:28
  rain outs, I think they've had like 2 rain outs maybe their
• 2:01:32
  whole season 1 one or two. Like they've not been rained out
• 2:01:35
  a lot. They've actually beat the,
• 2:01:37
  beaten the rain a couple times. And it's like, man, it's already
• 2:01:41
  season championship and it just feels like we were just doing
• 2:01:43
  trifecta race one in May and we were just doing the first night
• 2:01:47
  of destruction. And it's just crazy, right?
• 2:01:51
  That's why it's like I, you know, I keep telling people get
• 2:01:53
  out to the racetrack like it's so easy to be like, well, I
• 2:01:56
  could probably go next week. Just go now because if we're all
• 2:02:00
  I've done this before. I mean, I was out of racing for
• 2:02:02
  10 years. We'd stopped going when my mom
• 2:02:05
  was getting was going through her second round of breast
• 2:02:08
  cancer. We had stopped his finances just
• 2:02:10
  didn't allow us to go to the races anymore.
• 2:02:13
  It barely allowed me to go to college and and all these other
• 2:02:16
  things. And so we're just out of racing
• 2:02:18
  for my light keeps turning off. We are out of rate, clap on,
• 2:02:24
  clap off. See, we are out of like I was
• 2:02:27
  out of racing until I went to South Bend in 2017 for the first
• 2:02:30
  time in a long time. That's the first time I was at
• 2:02:32
  racetrack and then just from there.
• 2:02:34
  And so I tell people like, I'll go next week, I'll go next week
• 2:02:37
  to go now, because next week's not guaranteed, right?
• 2:02:40
  Like we got to, we got to get out to these tracks.
• 2:02:43
  We got to support them, especially now because pretty
• 2:02:45
  much their ability to earn money, you know, from the
• 2:02:49
  season, because they're, I promise you, most tracks are not
• 2:02:52
  profitable. They're barely scratching by
• 2:02:54
  right? And, and a lot of times people
• 2:02:56
  think they're profitable. It's like that, that $6 hot dog
• 2:03:00
  probably still cost them this much to make and replenish and
• 2:03:02
  all that. Like they're not making all this
• 2:03:04
  money that you think they are. And sponsor money doesn't cover
• 2:03:07
  the purse anymore. Or you're like, it barely covers
• 2:03:09
  the purse. In some places it doesn't even
• 2:03:12
  cover the first place. So, you know, it's like just
• 2:03:16
  like let's get out and support because we're right, we're
• 2:03:19
  winding down. I mean, New Paris has four
• 2:03:21
  events now, I think left. Kalamazoo has season
• 2:03:24
  Championship, Night of Destruction and Super Shoe.
• 2:03:28
  So they're down to three because there's no bad Santa this year
• 2:03:31
  that enduro's being moved somewhere else at some point in
• 2:03:34
  time. And so it's like you only have a
• 2:03:37
  couple times to get out to Kalamazoo, you only have a
• 2:03:39
  couple times to get out to M40. So it's like it's it's winding
• 2:03:42
  down here. We need to see clap on, clap off
• 2:03:44
  and shut off again. But yeah, whatever, it's fine.
• 2:03:49
  It just looks like a low budget show for a moment, but it's like
• 2:03:51
  I can't afford. I could go upstairs and be in
• 2:03:54
  light, but I'm like, it's too nice to be out, you know,
• 2:03:56
  upstairs. So I mean, we're closer to snow
• 2:03:59
  than we are. Rain showers bring May flowers,
• 2:04:01
  just so everybody knows, but. There's this over ring thought.
• 2:04:08
  Yeah, we've kind of had ups and downs, right?
• 2:04:10
  But, but other than that, I know you said super shoe, you talked
• 2:04:13
  about your Berlin race on September 11th and 12th.
• 2:04:16
  So where else could people see you?
• 2:04:18
  Because I you're not doing reveal, so you're not racing
• 2:04:20
  with reveal. So what else?
• 2:04:23
  Where else can they see the F17 this year?
• 2:04:27
  For the late model, those are really the only two shows I got
• 2:04:31
  left. We, we, we've kicked around the
• 2:04:34
  idea of new Paris, but you, you have to have a certain amount of
• 2:04:39
  horsepower to pull yourself up off the corner there.
• 2:04:42
  Even with the Truck Series, it was noticeable.
• 2:04:45
  These things hook up way better than anything I've ever driven.
• 2:04:50
  I just, I feel like especially as tight a track as it is, I'd
• 2:04:54
  just be in the way and I, I don't want to tear up equipment,
• 2:04:58
  mine or somebody else's, just because I, I know what I've got
• 2:05:02
  and then it I'm fine with it. To give you an idea, I mentioned
• 2:05:09
  the engine in this from the old church.
• 2:05:11
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a three O 5.
• 2:05:15
  It has stock Vortec heads, it's got a a hydraulic Cam, it's got
• 2:05:21
  a decent intake and a good carburetor.
• 2:05:24
  It's about 320 to 330 horse. There's not much pulling on that
• 2:05:31
  thing. So, you know, at Berlin, I went
• 2:05:34
  out there and I'd race there with the the Truck Series and I
• 2:05:37
  kind of thought, well, it's not a motor track.
• 2:05:39
  It's a big momentum track. And, and with the trucks it was
• 2:05:43
  like that you you kind of had to play the throttle and all that.
• 2:05:45
  Well, first time out with this and it just hooked immediately
• 2:05:50
  and I went, oh, I am so in trouble.
• 2:05:53
  And yeah, there 22 cars every straightaway.
• 2:05:56
  Shoot, shoot, cool. It was kind of cool.
• 2:06:02
  I mean, you're you're watching talk about the catbird seat,
• 2:06:05
  watching these guys fighting for the lead and you're like, oh,
• 2:06:08
  yeah. But it will.
• 2:06:12
  It was cool. But again, I know what I have.
• 2:06:15
  I don't want to cause a wreck. I feel like at a especially a
• 2:06:19
  tight track like in Paris, man, I'm just going to be in the way.
• 2:06:22
  So we're not going to go there. We're going to run Berlin.
• 2:06:25
  Yeah, I know they're going to blow by me.
• 2:06:27
  But again, my sponsor, he's got a big show going together.
• 2:06:31
  I'm going to go there, support him.
• 2:06:32
  We're going to have some fun with it.
• 2:06:34
  Again, the the crowd there is amazing.
• 2:06:36
  Super shoe. Super shoe.
• 2:06:39
  How can you not? Well, I know how you cannot
• 2:06:42
  because I've already lost one car there.
• 2:06:44
  But. And who?
• 2:06:47
  Apparently I'm a glutton for punishment.
• 2:06:51
  I'm going to run the little mini cup car.
• 2:06:54
  We've got a race this weekend at Owosso Cart Speedway Motorsports
• 2:06:59
  Park, little fifth mile track again, dollar for dollar, most
• 2:07:03
  fun I've ever had in a race car. And then that's kind of going to
• 2:07:10
  round it out for my season. You know, when you're budget
• 2:07:15
  racing, you, you kind of pick and choose your shows and, and
• 2:07:19
  on top of that, just as busy as life is only running a handful
• 2:07:23
  of shows isn't bad. You know, I, I can still go out
• 2:07:26
  and do things with my wife. I can still go out and do things
• 2:07:28
  with my kid. And, you know, when I was
• 2:07:31
  younger, I, I was such a die hard racer was, I was racing,
• 2:07:36
  you know, 234 times a week if I could.
• 2:07:40
  And, and there were a few weeks where I did race four times a
• 2:07:42
  week. You get older, your perspective
• 2:07:46
  starts to change a little bit, you know, and all of a sudden,
• 2:07:50
  yeah, I could go racing, but kind of really want to go
• 2:07:52
  camping with my wife. Right, right.
• 2:07:55
  That's that's not bad. So younger kids will get there
• 2:08:00
  someday. Well, that's for a few weeks
• 2:08:03
  ago. Since I became top row, I hadn't
• 2:08:05
  missed a race unless it rained out, but mom had tickets to
• 2:08:09
  that. Chili Peppers or chili baseball?
• 2:08:13
  The cosmic chili team. I think it's Chili Peppers,
• 2:08:17
  whatever they are, but they played at Grand Rapids at the
• 2:08:20
  5th 3rd. No, it's not 5th 3rd park
• 2:08:22
  anymore, it's LMCU ballpark. Or whatever.
• 2:08:26
  But she had tickets for that for a long time and then they were
• 2:08:29
  going to cancel because she's like, well, Kenny Wallace is at
• 2:08:31
  Kalamazoo, so you should be there.
• 2:08:32
  And I went, I'm not going to Kalamazoo.
• 2:08:34
  I, you know, this is something she'd look forward to.
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  I was at Kalamazoo on her birthday.
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  I was at M40 on Father's Day. I was at M40 on Mother's Day.
• 2:08:42
  Like I've been at, or maybe Corrigan was one of those dates
• 2:08:45
  and M40 was the other. But I'm like, I've been at
• 2:08:47
  racetrack and all these days for many years and it's like, Nope,
• 2:08:51
  you have tickets for this. You've been excited for this for
• 2:08:53
  a really long time, right? So why would I cancel?
• 2:08:57
  You know, I've, I've always been a big believer in family 1st and
• 2:09:00
  then it's like it's time for me to live that for a moment.
• 2:09:02
  It's OK that I'm not at a racetrack on one of these
• 2:09:04
  nights. There are other people to cover
• 2:09:06
  it and I don't I don't need to be there, right?
• 2:09:09
  And so that was kind of refreshing, you know, to have
• 2:09:13
  family time on a race night. It's like, yeah, my my skin was
• 2:09:18
  kind of ticking, like I should be doing this right now or
• 2:09:20
  should be doing that right now because I know racing was
• 2:09:23
  happening, right? And you're when you're in a
• 2:09:25
  routine, but it's like, but I was so excited to be at the
• 2:09:28
  game. I was so excited to be there
• 2:09:30
  experience. And I and I think sometimes,
• 2:09:33
  right, that it's nice to step away from the racetrack.
• 2:09:37
  And I haven't done that a lot until then.
• 2:09:39
  And that was nice, like I enjoyed it like so I, I think
• 2:09:46
  sometimes we need to ground ourselves again because points
• 2:09:48
  racing gets stressful. You know, that's why I like
• 2:09:50
  night of destructions a lot because they're there to crash
• 2:09:54
  stuff. You know, they don't, you know,
• 2:09:55
  they they'll go get a new car and no big deal.
• 2:09:58
  And but it's laid. Back.
• 2:10:00
  Where I'm points night, right, everything's just kind of
• 2:10:02
  stressful and uppity and you know, it's just different,
• 2:10:06
  right? And so cuz there's money on the
• 2:10:07
  line, there's lots of things on the line.
• 2:10:09
  So, so sometimes it's like, OK, you can kind of feel the tension
• 2:10:13
  on some nights. So like I know there's going to
• 2:10:16
  be a lot of stress this Friday for a lot of people.
• 2:10:18
  So like I already know, like, OK, I just need to have my Pepsi
• 2:10:23
  ready to go and get on the roof and be ready.
• 2:10:26
  And but other than that, you know, because I already know
• 2:10:29
  like some groups and some teams are just going to be stressed
• 2:10:31
  because it's the last night and points are on the line and
• 2:10:34
  there's a lot on them. There's still two class or two,
• 2:10:37
  three classes I think that are not decided yet.
• 2:10:39
  So there's a lot of pressure, right?
• 2:10:41
  So it's like, OK, just keep myself grounded, keep myself
• 2:10:44
  grounded, keep myself grounded. So I get like the camping and,
• 2:10:47
  and doing those moments and having that.
• 2:10:49
  Because there are people who you talk to now who are like, man, I
• 2:10:52
  wish I would have went camping a few years ago.
• 2:10:54
  I wish I would have done this. And I think if you get to that
• 2:10:56
  wish part, it's like you don't want to do that later, you know,
• 2:11:00
  where your wife is like, man, even though she supports you
• 2:11:03
  doing this, right, Like, man, I, you know, we would have, we
• 2:11:06
  really could have went and done this trip and you know, and now
• 2:11:08
  we don't get that opportunity, you know, whatever it may be.
• 2:11:11
  So definitely can't turn those kind of things down.
• 2:11:15
  And, and and don't get me wrong, some of my best memories are at
• 2:11:20
  the racetrack. Some of my best friends made at
• 2:11:22
  the racetrack. It's just, you know, as you get
• 2:11:25
  older, your perspective changes and there are people who their
• 2:11:28
  whole families, the racetrack is, is where it's at and that's
• 2:11:32
  awesome and it's complete. More power to you.
• 2:11:36
  Not saying that that that's a bad thing by any means.
• 2:11:40
  You just, you got to kind of find your own.
• 2:11:43
  And and as I. Got older, you know, every now
• 2:11:45
  and then going camp and going fishing, it ain't all that.
• 2:11:49
  They don't always have to be at the racetrack.
• 2:11:51
  So the reveal of the Hammer series, you know, they've got,
• 2:11:55
  you know, what was it, 5 kills this year?
• 2:11:58
  They think they had eight last year.
• 2:11:59
  That's about perfect for where I'm at in my life.
• 2:12:02
  So yeah, it's man, this year went by fast so.
• 2:12:08
  Yep, what I know your wife has been on the on the in the chat
• 2:12:13
  area a lot too. So I know we're definitely, you
• 2:12:16
  know, we've had almost an hour. So we're we're keeping you away
• 2:12:18
  from her for a little bit. So I know you have things to get
• 2:12:22
  ready and do and enjoy that family time, you know, every
• 2:12:25
  night. And so that's where, again, I
• 2:12:28
  just appreciate you, you know, being able to come on tonight
• 2:12:31
  and tell your story, you know, for Boozoo.
• 2:12:33
  Oh, though, before I forget, Boozoo, did you did you have any
• 2:12:36
  questions or anything? Because I know you're learning a
• 2:12:38
  lot, right? So, yeah, but I don't want to.
• 2:12:40
  I almost cut you off. I don't mean to cut you off, but
• 2:12:44
  sorry, that's my mistake. No, you're all good.
• 2:12:47
  We're getting past my bedtime here.
• 2:12:49
  I'm about to turn into a pumpkin anyway, but OK, I'll ask a
• 2:12:51
  couple of my standards. Favorite racetrack?
• 2:12:53
  Kyle. You know, probably I I would say
• 2:12:59
  2 non operational now. The old half mile at Tri-City
• 2:13:06
  Motor Speedway. If you ever get a chance look up
• 2:13:10
  old YouTube videos. It was a left-handed Rd. course.
• 2:13:14
  Legit five turns elevation changes.
• 2:13:17
  You're going up and down banking, no banking.
• 2:13:20
  It was insane. It was such a cool track.
• 2:13:25
  Favorite track current. I mean, Winchester, Winchester,
• 2:13:30
  what absolute blast there. I'd love to get back there
• 2:13:38
  someday, so. Would you Would you run there?
• 2:13:42
  I ran the the short track truck there, almost get around there
• 2:13:46
  without lifting. Yeah.
• 2:13:48
  Oh man, you got. Screaming around.
• 2:13:52
  You're you're yeah, it's the, it's that track is so cool
• 2:13:56
  because you go into the corner and everywhere else you're
• 2:13:59
  looking here off to the side at Winchester, you're looking up
• 2:14:03
  here and there's no sideways G forces.
• 2:14:07
  It's just right down in the sea. I've not been in Winchester yet,
• 2:14:13
  but each year I have someone who's like just come on down,
• 2:14:15
  come on down and obvious. And I have I've had a chance to
• 2:14:18
  connect with Dan Redmond because of the Boers Compact series.
• 2:14:20
  And so him and I talked earlier this year at the 500 Tour media
• 2:14:25
  day where he said, yeah, Someone Like You can't just show up,
• 2:14:29
  you're a little too big now. And, and he said, but you know,
• 2:14:34
  we'll see what we can do. So, so that's where I, I don't
• 2:14:38
  think it's going to work in my schedule based on how
• 2:14:40
  everything's panning out right now with some other Bahama
• 2:14:43
  brackets and other things going on.
• 2:14:44
  At some point, you know, money does come into play and I got to
• 2:14:47
  be able to afford to to go to some of these places in Bahama
• 2:14:51
  is in Grundy, Illinois. That's or not Grundy Morris, but
• 2:14:54
  Grundy County that's going to require hotel stay and all that.
• 2:14:57
  So obviously that's going to cost them money.
• 2:14:59
  So I need to figure out a way to afford some things now at this
• 2:15:04
  point to do some of these post season shows.
• 2:15:06
  But but that's where, you know, Winchester's definitely a bucket
• 2:15:10
  list to get down there. So because I mean it just it
• 2:15:13
  looks fun so. It won't disappoint.
• 2:15:17
  But but like I said, I know we've kept you way long.
• 2:15:20
  Your wife is probably like 40 minutes.
• 2:15:22
  It's almost an hour, bub. So and you've been on actually a
• 2:15:25
  little longer than that. We were a few minutes behind
• 2:15:27
  with Poland Jews number things or name things.
• 2:15:30
  So again, congratulations to Chris Elwell for getting that
• 2:15:35
  and heading off to Birch Run in the 95 front wheel drive.
• 2:15:38
  But other than that, Kyle, like I excuse me, flipper.
• 2:15:42
  Oh, I said. I wasn't going to call him Kyle
• 2:15:46
  the rest of the night after that first introduction.
• 2:15:48
  But Flipper? They call him Muttworth, so
• 2:15:51
  either one more. So again, you know, definitely
• 2:15:55
  thank you for joining. You get to be a part of the
• 2:15:57
  closing here a little bit. So I'm going to keep you on
• 2:15:59
  screen. I do want to remind everyone
• 2:16:01
  that you can throttle up with us this Thursday night on the
• 2:16:03
  Thursday night's throttle where we preview the upcoming weekend.
• 2:16:07
  I just know that Buju and I, we're going to do 2 weekly shows
• 2:16:11
  left of the throttle and then we're going to start phasing it
• 2:16:14
  out where after that we're going to go down to every other week
• 2:16:18
  just to open up some Thursdays for us, especially as the season
• 2:16:21
  gets lighter. And so the Monday night rewind
• 2:16:24
  will change some format, not much because we have a good
• 2:16:28
  formula going with what we do here by shooting first, aim
• 2:16:30
  second. But there will be some things
• 2:16:32
  that we'll pull from Thursday's housekeeping items, you can call
• 2:16:36
  them parking lot items that will include on Mondays going
• 2:16:39
  forward, probably at the last part of the show.
• 2:16:42
  And then starting in November, we're going to go down to once a
• 2:16:46
  month. So October is going to be like
• 2:16:47
  that transition month, September and October transition.
• 2:16:50
  And then we're because you got Thanksgiving and Christmas and
• 2:16:53
  New Year's and all these holidays that Thursdays just
• 2:16:57
  seem to run into that. Also, a quick little note for
• 2:17:00
  the Monday night rewind on Labor Day weekend, that Monday we will
• 2:17:04
  not be doing a show just because that is such a huge travel day
• 2:17:08
  for a lot of people that we're going to have that Monday off.
• 2:17:10
  But that week we're going to do a Wednesday show, which will
• 2:17:14
  take place of the Thursday night Throttle and Monday night
• 2:17:17
  Rewind. So we're going to do a Wednesday
• 2:17:18
  show that week, similar format to Monday Night Rewind.
• 2:17:21
  In fact, they'll probably be called the Monday night Rewind
• 2:17:23
  on a Wednesday. We'll just adjust to that
• 2:17:25
  accordingly. But I'm not changing the logo.
• 2:17:28
  We're it's going to be the Monday night Rewind just a few
• 2:17:30
  days later. And one note that I do want to
• 2:17:34
  add to is that I want champions to reach out because I want to
• 2:17:38
  do champions shows where we interview champions 1015 minute
• 2:17:41
  slots, not full interviews like what we do normally do on a
• 2:17:45
  Monday, but like quick little come on, talk about your
• 2:17:47
  championship, think who you want to thank and just kind of get
• 2:17:51
  out there. So I know a few more
• 2:17:53
  championships are still being decided.
• 2:17:54
  So I'll be putting something out on Facebook for that notice.
• 2:17:57
  And that can that's open to any track.
• 2:18:00
  Plymouth, South Bend, Angola, Kalamazoo, M40, Hartford,
• 2:18:04
  Owosso, Corrigan, Arthur Raceway Park, wherever you are.
• 2:18:10
  If you want to come on again, we'll have 10 to 15 minutes.
• 2:18:12
  You could be in Iowa for all I care, because it's a it's a your
• 2:18:16
  chance and your opportunity to come on and talk about your
• 2:18:18
  championship because the win championship is an accolade in
• 2:18:21
  itself. And so let's celebrate that.
• 2:18:23
  So wherever you are, it's open to any track, any series, MCR
• 2:18:27
  dwarfs, doesn't matter. So again, we've been talking
• 2:18:30
  with almost say it again, Flipper.
• 2:18:34
  I'm struck out, struck out. We've been talking with Flipper
• 2:18:37
  again. Follow on Flipper's garage where
• 2:18:39
  you can see his YouTube channel. Also on Facebook.
• 2:18:42
  He has clips and reels and everything on there that he does
• 2:18:45
  in his daily life. Of course, again, you'll get to
• 2:18:47
  see him at a few more tracks in the year.
• 2:18:49
  So certainly follow Filper's Garage on Facebook to see where
• 2:18:53
  he's heading next. Other than that, it's our
• 2:18:56
  favorite time of the night that now I have Dalton Irish in my
• 2:19:00
  head every time it gets to this point where I have to do it
• 2:19:02
  almost exact. So I'm going to pause so I don't
• 2:19:05
  mess it up like I did last week. All right, Buju, it's almost
• 2:19:08
  time to turn left and go fast because.
• 2:19:11
  We'll see you at the races. Flipper.
• 2:19:14
  Last word. Yeah, I thank you for having me
• 2:19:18
  on again. I appreciate what both of you
• 2:19:21
  guys are doing, getting, getting the local guys in a little bit
• 2:19:24
  of limelight. It's it's so cool.
• 2:19:26
  It's it's truly been an honor to to to be on the program with you
• 2:19:29
  guys. Thank you.
• 2:19:31
  Again, thank you and we'll see you all at the races.
• 2:19:35
  At the races.