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The UK Gambling Gambit w/ Jerah Milligan (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's poppin, Congregation? Is your girl Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 2: Baalt.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your
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  Speaker 1: favorite episodes.
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  Speaker 2: From behind the paywall.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always,
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  Speaker 1: stay scheming, scaled, cod.
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  Speaker 3: Rob and run, Scam, come Rob and Frollam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, Congregation, We're back with another episode of Scam Goddess. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited for I always say this, I always
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  Speaker 1: say I'm so excited, but I am. I'm excited for
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  Speaker 1: every guest that we get because they're so funny. Today
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  Speaker 1: we have one of the legendary hosts from The Black
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  Speaker 1: Men Can't Jump in Hollywood. But guy, what if I
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  Speaker 1: just talk like that the whole time, like amen that
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  Speaker 1: you guys would kill me?
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  Speaker 2: You already ate my voice?
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  Speaker 1: Drum It's Mulligan, right, It's Milligan Milligan.
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  Speaker 3: Dam Am I getting no respect god, the legendary podcast.
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  Speaker 3: You were a guest on my podcast, and I get
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  Speaker 3: no respect on yours. All Right, I'm sitting in the corner.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: You sat in the corner.
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  Speaker 3: I do. I tell you you will told me not
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  Speaker 3: to sit in the corner. All right. This is how
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  Speaker 3: you start all just how you treat the guests.
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  Speaker 2: She done nothing to you. You got a pop tar,
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  Speaker 2: you got water.
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  Speaker 3: First off, they can't see, but your fingers are pointing.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you want to snap these nails. They
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  Speaker 3: can't see it, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Am about to snap these nails. Okay, listen, draw now.
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  Speaker 1: I asked how to pronounce it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but you said I get dragged a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair, guys. This is draw Mell again.
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  Speaker 1: I did say mulligan and you were like, when you
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  Speaker 1: look at your name, like the brain automatically reads mell again.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what you know, like it's an Irish
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  Speaker 3: I'm black. People get mad, confused.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Irish name. What's up with that?
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  Speaker 3: Why do you have an I think somewhere the slave
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  Speaker 3: owners were like, uh, just Irish, maybe their Irish owners, and.
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  Speaker 1: They all just stayed y'alls like, nigga, you ain't changed
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  Speaker 1: it because it is my thing.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, you know when Saint Patty's Day come,
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  Speaker 3: because it's day before my birthday, you know, shamous plug
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  Speaker 3: for my birth It's like I celebrated because I got
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  Speaker 3: the birthday and the Irish name. So I'm like, hey, yo,
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  Speaker 3: you never seen a black Irish man we hear out here.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I won't say kiss me on Irish because
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know you, you just can't be having
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  Speaker 3: people just kiss up when yeah, you don't know them.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, okay, that's faan, that's a scam in itself.
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  Speaker 1: You out here just saying that you Irish you don't
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  Speaker 1: really know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I could be I know.
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  Speaker 1: You you should get from drinks if you're a black
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  Speaker 1: Irish person experienced more of the struggle. My last name
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  Speaker 1: is Mosley, and I had a chemistry professor or not professor,
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  Speaker 1: but teacher in high school who their last names were
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  Speaker 1: Mosley too, like a husband and wife, and they both
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  Speaker 1: worked at the school. They's spelled the same name, like
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  Speaker 1: the same way, and so I would always like to
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  Speaker 1: her one time and made her so uncomfortable because she
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  Speaker 1: was a white woman and I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we have the same last name, was expelled the same way.
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  Speaker 1: It was like maybe your people owned my people.
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  Speaker 3: At something honestly, though, she think about it, she should
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  Speaker 3: think about it, think about it, she think about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably real and all hit for these tears. Don't
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  Speaker 3: feel sad, right, say I'm sorry and go buy me
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  Speaker 3: a car.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's what we want reparation. And we've upgraded from
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  Speaker 1: a mule to a Mazda.
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  Speaker 3: They took the mule in the in the forty acres back,
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  Speaker 3: so you know what I'm upgrading. I want.
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  Speaker 1: I want three miles. What's bigger forty acres or three miles?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, math, I don't know math, Cody.
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  Speaker 2: That's so dumb.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So dumb it's forty acres?
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  Speaker 3: But how how how is forty acres it that close?
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  Speaker 2: To listen?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how land works. I live in the
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  Speaker 3: New York apartment. Okay, I don't know how.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I've never experienced I don't know how.
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  Speaker 1: I've never experienced landing. No, that's a lie from Texas.
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  Speaker 3: I've experienced so much land and probably like horses too.
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  Speaker 2: My family owns a lot of land.
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  Speaker 1: All my aunts used to live on one hill and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, like holidays, we would go over and
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  Speaker 1: we would visit every aunt who lived on the hill
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  Speaker 1: because they all cooked something different that was a specialty.
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  Speaker 3: From like one of these like black family because I
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  Speaker 3: always see like the southern white families that do like
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  Speaker 3: the pageants and every yeah are you from like that
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  Speaker 3: same thing? Just black?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I didn't do pageants. I didn't do pageants.
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  Speaker 2: I did have a college coach.
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  Speaker 3: I did a college coach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like this woman I would drive to see in
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  Speaker 1: Dallas who would like help me be more competitive when
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  Speaker 1: I was applying to college.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I didn't do the college entrance scam.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, Okay, I did everything almost legitimatelya.
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  Speaker 3: Wait wait wait talk about But I love this though,
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  Speaker 3: because I feel like you don't even people don't even
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  Speaker 3: know black folk exist in that kind of like right world.
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  Speaker 1: No, yeah, there are black people with money and that's
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  Speaker 1: a funny thing, is like, and it's a weird racism
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  Speaker 1: thing like a dog whistle where people assume you grew
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  Speaker 1: up poor and I'm like, why are you assuming that
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't have that struggle like I literally
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  Speaker 1: had like a show run or be like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is how everybody did it in Philly, Like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't do it like that? And I was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I grew up around a lot of white people.
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  Speaker 3: I was I was safe. I had we had yards. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: like we we had things, wait.
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  Speaker 1: Yards and backyards. My mom would throw parties and the
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  Speaker 1: white people would work them. Wait what Yeah, my mom
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  Speaker 1: would only hire white people.
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  Speaker 3: Know. I'm reading this book right now, and it's like
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  Speaker 3: someone asked me to help adapt it, and it's like
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  Speaker 3: it's hard because it is that it's like black people
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  Speaker 3: like reversing, Yeah, what happened to black people? And I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine hiring an all white staff. I'd be like,
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  Speaker 3: because if you're making the food, I'm like, do you
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  Speaker 3: know how to make? Like, are you gonna make this
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  Speaker 3: macaroni cheese right seasoning? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, plenty of white people who can cook.
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  Speaker 3: Emerald first, what what I've never seen Emerald pull up
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  Speaker 3: macaroni and cheese out the oven. Okay, this is my thing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not with it.
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  Speaker 2: He was eating a pop eyssed chicken sandwich. He yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he like flavor.
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  Speaker 3: I don't trust him. He got it? I got one?
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  Speaker 3: How you get one? Yo?
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  Speaker 2: It was a scam. This was a scam.
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  Speaker 1: So Popeyes will put up sides and say that they
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  Speaker 1: were out of the pope sugar.
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  Speaker 2: Sandwich when really they had it back.
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  Speaker 1: So all you have to do is go inside and
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey, I see your side says you're out.
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  Speaker 2: But are you really out? And they'd be like nah,
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  Speaker 2: and then they give.
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  Speaker 3: One they say want the lies. They're about to say, Ao,
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  Speaker 3: we out. Also, what a good setup? Like does a
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  Speaker 3: black person own Popeye's no black person?
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  Speaker 2: Don't it? Just got black lady who's like his ship.
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  Speaker 2: I love this chicken. I made it mys. You think
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  Speaker 2: she got some extra momum your aunty you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Her hands don't even be dirty. I'm like, listen, my
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  Speaker 3: aunties got burns.
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  Speaker 2: We don't even eat chicken.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: We aren't make no fries.
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  Speaker 3: You got no elbow burns, so you got make that
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  Speaker 3: chicken grease burns.
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  Speaker 1: I have a huge grease breader actually really on the
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  Speaker 1: back of my calf.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, what did you run away from the.
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  Speaker 2: It's very traumatizing.
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  Speaker 1: I was I am bacon and that took this is
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  Speaker 1: the country and ship. I took off the stove too,
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  Speaker 1: like right after I cooked the bacon, so it was
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  Speaker 1: hot and it sloshed.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit and it got me bad. It got
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  Speaker 2: me my Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: I would wear I would wear an ace bandage everywhere
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  Speaker 1: because I was so embarrassed because it was like a hot, big,
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  Speaker 1: huge scar and I have very dark skin, so I
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  Speaker 1: was like wearing this ace bandage to the point where
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  Speaker 1: one my caws got smaller than the other because I'd
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  Speaker 1: work out. But the crazy thing is I used to
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  Speaker 1: as a scam because I got pulled over once for
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  Speaker 1: speed and I was like, I just got burned.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to can they let me off? They let
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  Speaker 2: me on little corner.
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  Speaker 3: Yo. Man, listen, I need I need to get better
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  Speaker 3: at those cop scams because they be getting me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nah bruh, especially as a black man. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: you need to be able to cry on cue man.
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  Speaker 2: I had.
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  Speaker 3: I had a story that was so good. Once I
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  Speaker 3: was driving my stepdad to the Special Olympics. It's hit.
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  Speaker 3: My parents are oldest. My parents are like seventies, Miss
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  Speaker 3: eventies joy my stepdad to a special Olympics. We got,
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  Speaker 3: you know, crutches in the front. I'm in the slow lane,
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  Speaker 3: my mom in the back. This this dude still dragged
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  Speaker 3: me out the cop like it didn't it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't know what was happening yet.
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  Speaker 2: Was your dad competing in the special element?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a horseback riding or whatever. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean. He wanted he wants some medals, but
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  Speaker 3: it was a very traumatic time to get there. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yo, cop, come on baby, we're just
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  Speaker 3: trying to go to the specialom.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know if I was really
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  Speaker 3: speed and I was like, I'm in the slow lane, chilling.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, this is how people.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's very fucked up to arrest people
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  Speaker 1: going to the special Olympic.
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  Speaker 3: Can do I come out of the sides?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, after you say like so many curses, we
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  Speaker 1: eight minutes and you ask.
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  Speaker 2: If you could Curt, I said one run out of here.
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  Speaker 3: He started cursing as soon as the podcast started. Holy
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  Speaker 3: if that's real. I think I.
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  Speaker 2: Said your name wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And then you literally started cursing me out to the media. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even notice that's on me. My apologies to
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  Speaker 3: everybody at home.
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  Speaker 1: Well, guys, let's get into it. Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: What's hot and guys, I'm getting letters. If you have
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  Speaker 1: a letter, if you have a story of about a
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  Speaker 1: time that you were hoodwinked or you did a con,
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  Speaker 1: please only tell us about the retired cons. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to fuck up your bag, but email us
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  Speaker 1: at scam got uspod at gmail dot com because we
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  Speaker 1: would love to hear about it. So this scam comes
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: from someone I'm gonna call Tsha, that's not her name,
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  Speaker 1: but I can be putting our governments out here. So
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  Speaker 1: just stumbled upon your pod and I'm loving it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh very kind.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a scam that happened to me and some of
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  Speaker 1: my psychologists colleagues, which I heard about from our local
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  Speaker 1: psychologists professional forums. Okay forums and got a Facebook group. Now, okay,
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  Speaker 1: psychologost Okay.
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  Speaker 3: We know you went to college. We got it. We
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  Speaker 3: got it.
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  Speaker 1: So someone I call it a Facebook group. She said,
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  Speaker 1: we got a professional forums.
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  Speaker 3: I know it was a form. Don't just respect her
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  Speaker 3: like that. She just told you. She said, me and
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  Speaker 3: my psychology colleagues.
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  Speaker 2: Colleague. She didn't say friends.
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  Speaker 3: Oh me college, you were gonna have some colleague somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, someone called me on my private cell and
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  Speaker 1: call O. I d showed up for the number for
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  Speaker 1: the San Jose Police Department. So this is a normal
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  Speaker 1: This is like a normalized scam now where people are
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  Speaker 1: hacking into like people's like legitimate government officials numbers to
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  Speaker 1: use it to contact you. So you can scramble, I
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  Speaker 1: guess a number, or you can make a number appear
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  Speaker 1: on someone's caller ID to be something that you're actually
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  Speaker 1: not calling from. And it's happening all the time. So
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  Speaker 1: someone is posing as the San Jose Police Department. A
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  Speaker 1: man identified himself as an officer and gave a badge number.
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  Speaker 1: That's also you know it's going to be a scam
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  Speaker 1: when anybody gives you a number.
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  Speaker 3: Of a cop calling you.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's another thing. I'm like, if you call me. Also,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a cop and you calling me, I'm hanging up.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, for what, listen, I don't know deal
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  Speaker 1: with the cops in person.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know this person's real name, but I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I know her.
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  Speaker 1: And you rout So so a San Jose Police Department
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  Speaker 1: number called her. This police officer verified himself by giving
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  Speaker 1: a badge number, which is completely fake. That's not a
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  Speaker 1: real thing, and also, like, what am I supposed to
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  Speaker 1: do with that badge number? How I'm supposed to check
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that's legit? I got a system. What
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  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do?
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  Speaker 3: Google it?
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  Speaker 2: Like hmm? Checks out?
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  Speaker 3: What? Also, don't call me you a cop. Don't call
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  Speaker 3: me like I don't feel safe on the phone. That
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  Speaker 3: means you know me. They shoot you through the floor,
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  Speaker 3: you know you. I don't know how they did it,
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: but they did manage to shoot me through the phone.
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  Speaker 3: They said they were scared of my phone voice. Ye,
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  Speaker 3: and then they shot me. His voice got loud. Y'all
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  Speaker 3: think it's a game, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: This sounds like a joke.
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  Speaker 1: But then literally, I'm gonna see this on Twitter news
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  Speaker 1: in like a week, Like, damn, they got my man.
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  Speaker 2: They got my man's through the phone. Damn. So sad.
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  Speaker 2: It's being black so hard.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: So this cop d quotes said that she had been
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  Speaker 1: subpoenaed as an expert witness in a case involving patients
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  Speaker 1: and failed to appear in court, and that the judge
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  Speaker 1: put out a warrant for her arrest. I asked who
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  Speaker 1: the patient was, and he said he couldn't reveal that info.
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  Speaker 3: No, that I know what pay, like, what's the verification process?
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  Speaker 1: So they have expert witnesses to go to court sometimes
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  Speaker 1: in trial to explain things so that the jur can
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  Speaker 1: further understand like whatever, or to know the mental health
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: state of whoever's.
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  Speaker 3: On trial or whatever. Practice.
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  Speaker 2: Right, we all watch law you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what I mean, be scaring me. I'd be like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: it'b be it'd be it'd be black dudes on that
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  Speaker 3: jone just going to jail all the time. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: y'all need divers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm basically a lawyer because I've seen so much arcute
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: and law in order SVU, I'm like, basically a lawyer.
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: You watch How to get Away with Murders?
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  Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, so I can get away with mad murders.
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  Speaker 3: I learned on that show, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Damn, I can some murders.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah that.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: And on Scandal when they be cleaning up after like Scandal,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: the early days of Scandal, I was just Carrie Washington
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: get her black blown out by the white president and it.
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  Speaker 3: Was let's take it back, Let's take it back.
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  Speaker 1: Literally every scene was like Olivia Pope with a big
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  Speaker 1: purse and gotta clean.
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  Speaker 2: Up a murder.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta clean and president, she gotta go bank the president,
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  Speaker 3: the country man. Listen, she was at the oval.
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  Speaker 2: Listen he was getting in that oval.
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  Speaker 3: Wait? So was he was he married? Did he have
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  Speaker 3: a person?
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  Speaker 2: He was married?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, good for you. You know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 3: you out here? Her hope for her taxes.
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  Speaker 1: Were free, right, so while she was getting her back
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  Speaker 1: blown out, they would also be cleaning up murders. So
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  Speaker 1: I also feel like I know how to get away
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: with the murders. Anyway, so she says she knew this
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  Speaker 1: was a scam once. He said expert witness because those
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: people are paid to testify, and I couldn't be an
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  Speaker 1: expert witness in my own patients trial because it's a
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: conflict of interest. So anyway, he said, the judge was
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: willing to be nice and let me off with a
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: fine rather than jail time insert eye roll here. Just
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: to mess with him, I said I would take the
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  Speaker 1: jail time also.
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  Speaker 3: First off, First a while she on the phone with
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  Speaker 3: this cock this long. Okay, some people like entertaining, no
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  Speaker 3: macause this is my thing, all right. You could be
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  Speaker 3: you could be hacking in to my because you know
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: on your phone you got to passwords kind of saved
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: on there for websites, and like you could be hacking
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: into my stuff as I'm talking to you. I've seen
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: the movies on the phone the phone as we go
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: into his whole find it's like no, but I could
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: be on the phone and it's like, oh man, you
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: got to bang of America things saved on the phone.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Boom boom. I got it. You got to chase bank.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's how it works.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Listen, I've seen TV, all right. I see a lot
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: of TV. Okay, you see a lot. I see a
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: lot of TV.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, great, wonderful, So just mess with them, she says,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: she take the jail time. He said that officers would
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: come pick her up. I said I could meet They
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: could meet me at my house and I had to
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: get a babysitter because the kids are on the summer break.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Then I cheerfully say goodbye and hung up. I called
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: the real San Jose Police, and a semi irritated officer
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: confirmed this is a scam and that the police don't
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: warn you if you have a warrant for your arrest.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: They just try to ambush you and take you in.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: You know what, my scammer's a lazy sociopath and not
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: that right, thank you?
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: T shut.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: When I got arrested, I had a warrant for you
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: got arrested. I had a war forcezza. I didn't know.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I moved to New York and it was like, oh,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: the d m V doesn't afford mail. So I was like,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: I don't remember ever, I do. I remember getting a ticket,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: but they're like, oh, it should have been afforded to you.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Oh sorry. I was like, oh, come, we don't afford male.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, but I don't remember get a ticket. Well,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: and I got when I got arrested with my parents,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: So when they pulled you over, you had warrant.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: So I didn't know. So I had no idea, so
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: like legit.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Just be having Warren. That's why the cops be pulling.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I was in New York for three years, no idea.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: I'm chilling, you know, so I yo, she's validated. She
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: talked to him for too long though, you know what
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: I mean. Also, she snitched. She called the cops. I
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: don't know how I feel about it, right, she called
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: the cops. She called the real cops.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: She's trying to stop people from getting like played. I'm
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: sure someone has sent him money. The weird thing, though,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: is he's scamming like a community of like intellectuals.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: But also you think that cops you call did anything,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: like for real? They all know that the cop do nothing.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: She said he was semi irritated on the phone. He's
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: probably yeah, yeah, I'll make a report. So well she
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: should have did. She would have called her cousin. You
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, who's good with computers. Trace the number,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: all right, found out where that dude was at. You
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: call him back, all right, call him back on a
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: new line, like, hey, ah man, this is your bank.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: You need to verify your social Security. I got that
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: call recently, and oh you did.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: That's a popular one that's going around right now. And
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like millennials are getting and I've talked about
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: it on the show already, but we all think there's
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: no social security left. So I feel like it's very tempting.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: You're like social security. I'm like, y'all got ys.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I think I no coins. I'm good, Like I'm done.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I better save up now.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we all have to save for retirement. Now it's
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: millennials because it's trash yep fact. But yeah, so so
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: sorry t Sha that she had that mild running with
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: a scam cop. But anybody calling your house guys for
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: any reason and giving you any verification numbers, automatically hang up.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: That shit is fake.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Like if you got a cousin that you want to
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: talk to in a minute, you know what I'm saying,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: they call you like, oh, how's it going? Hang up
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: on them too. You know what they heard? You probably
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: got some money. I got a new job on your
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: family if you'll know that cousin. That cousin is stranger
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: calling me for what?
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: When random family members call you, it's always about money.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: It's never not about money. And Steve Harvey, who is
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: we talk about on your podcast? He's so problematic and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: his teeth are so big. I can see his teeth
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: right now though. Yeah, his suits are much better. Marjorie
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: upgraded him and introduce him to Purple. Ah, honey, I
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: have to do an EP about her.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: She's the goddess.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Wait, so what Steve Harvey would say?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Like with family members calling you to ask for money,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you always want to be like, hey, Okay, let me
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: think about it, let me see if I can do it,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: give me a few days. And then you wait like
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: two weeks and then you call him back and like
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: do you still need the money?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Wait, so they say yes, and they say yes.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: No, but like in two weeks, like they have to
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: finger out.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I mean like, I'm not gonna call back and people
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: call me now be like hey man, I heard youah
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I'm like, yeah, not, I heard you,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: like my mom my, mommy already my mom he me
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: with the text, A I heard your other your cousin, no,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: they call it. I was like, oh bet, thanks.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Even in the morning.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Yo, I've been lucky enough that hasn't started happening yet.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: But I because I am on TV now, people show
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: up to family events and ways that they never did before.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Like our family unions were packed. Now my mom's like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I fucking forgot You're on TV. Everyone's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: gonna come now.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Who you know, who you know you were for and
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: can you get this? I'm like, hey, yo, man, I'm
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: still like I'm broke. I ain't got it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I'd be like yo, I just went on because I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: like iconogra face. I'm like, I'm broke. Yeah, these are Balenciagas,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: but I'm broke.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: See but that's why you broke. See that, That's why
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's like, oh man, you know I spent
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: it already. I got these off whites. I'm broke, man. Yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I can't call it dog. I'm sorry, man.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And we're back, guys, at its time.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Congregation, that's what I call the congregation. Yeah, congreg And
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: we're back and we're into my favorite segment, historic could winks.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to regale drop with historic con you
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, really worthy of our prayers, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: let's just get his thoughts.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm ready. I'm ready.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: So this is actually very fun because I don't think
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that this scam was caught. I don't think the scammer
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: was called really got away with this. But this is
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Edward Putman from the UK who conspired with the Camelot
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: insider Giles Nibs. These some British Edward Putman and Giles Nibs.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Giles Nibs, that is the most British name I've ever
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: heard in my life. How the audacity to name your
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: child Giles wild to cheat. So they cheated the system
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and they made a winning counterfit lottery ticket to claim
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: an outstanding two point five million euro pies in two
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Wow, so this is recent for somebody
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: who shaded me and said nineteen ninety nine was not recent.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Two thousand nine more recent for you.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I'm petty out. I'll call out my Twitter tiler. That's
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: twenty years ago. I mean, okay, well, so you agree
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: with him. I mean, listen, you know I'm a guest.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I'm a guest. I'm a guest.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Oh man, this nigga draws disrespectful here. It came up
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: my podcast one cuts me out in the first two. Remember,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry about is treating him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And now you're going sorry my apology. I'm sorry you?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Oh do you? I don't know.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to question, so how again. Buttnam has been
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: described as a bully who is a heavy drinker and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: prone to fits of violence. He's also been convicted of
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: wounding with intent in a case in the mid eighties
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: when a neighbor in another area was attacked. So I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: guess he attacked his neighbor for six years. Putnam is
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: alleged to have lived happily on the proceeds of the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: two point five million euros. So he got away for
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: six years, but the secret fraud was exposed when a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: friend killed himself following an angry confrontation over how the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: winnings were divided.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: A court heard, Wow, so here's my thing.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: If you are mad about the money being divided, you're
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: not gonna get none of it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: If you doubt I'm gonna get him, I'm gonna have
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that's crazy.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. So that's not a sad thing that happened.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: But I guess this is really what blew up. So
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: he didn't get away with They would have gotten away
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: with it, though. That's the crazy thing. If they hadn't
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: have thought, they would have got away with this. And
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: this is like three million US dollars.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna lie. Man. If I could
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: pull this off, I would do it. Oh absolutely, I
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: would do this in the second, and I probably be
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: like the guy who lived. I'll probably try to rip
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: everybody else off. Damn, you're not even.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Gonna try to be fair about You're gonna go oceans
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: eleven and split the money equally, and then all y'all
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: think is like my cigars after I remember I watched
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: this this uh was this like an E E true
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Hollywood or something, but it was on like winners, like
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the Winner's Curse or something like that, a lottery people.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: So like every time any clearly, even if you fake
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: win the lottery, you still die or something bad happens.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Like apparently, no matter what happens, bad things happen to people,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I wanted a re enactment show where it was like
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a guy who won the lotto and then like got
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: murdered by.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Like his new friend who was also his accountant.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Yo, listen, I'm telling you this. If I won the lotto,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I'm spending all that money in a year, like all
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of it. I don't even care much that I don't
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: care how much this I'm gonna go. I'm gonna find
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: a little black UDEs like Heyo, take this, take this
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: one thousand real quick, and I'm gonna just spend it
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: because my.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Thing is that's what this guy did. He got murdered.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Listen, That's what this is my thing. So we're gonna
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: try to murder me. So I'm like, I'm gonna I'm
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: gonna just go balls out like either that I'm gonna.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Get curaety that you won the lotto.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: No, man, I ain't gonna be one of people that
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: show up with their face covet and hands covet. Nah, man,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna show up. I'm not only showing up with
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: my face out, I'm showing up giving thank you. Hey,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I want to thank that job for fired me. I
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: want to thank girl was saying I wasn't gonna be nobody.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna just crap on everybody.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, oh, for real, fruit you said I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: was never asking to get murdered. Like everything that you're
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: saying is like one, you're gonna give out money randomly,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: so people are definitely gonna be trying to.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Hit you up all the time too.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: You're gonna show up to accept the lotto ticket with
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: his raw face out, and you're gonna be antagonizing anyone
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: who's ever wrong.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Mike Tyson in the nineteen Mike Tyson used to walk
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: around New York with a fur coat and be like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: come at me, and you know what happened. Nobody came
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: at him because he's crazy for doing that. So they'd
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: be like oh man, dry got nothing to something.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Rolling, he got none of lift for while here just.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Being like come get me. I don't want to come
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: after him. This might be part of the game.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that that does not work all the time.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Tupac operated that way, and they came and got him.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: See some thing, man, But Tupac used to make those
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: like emotional songs too, so that people knew he had
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a heart. You know what I'm saying. You know this
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: is people knew he had a heart.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Lets tweet me if you agree with you, I'm saying,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: think about it like this too.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: If you this is great, you listen to this, you
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: got your job. Next thing, you know, you're like, oh man,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I need to start acting like I don't care about
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: getting fired. You might get promoted.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I think that only works if you're white.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: If you start acting like you don't care about getting
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: fired and you're black and your ass is great grass, Listen,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: all right, if you, if you black at the office,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: start acting like what white Chad would do. Just see
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: what happened. You might you walk around like white Chad.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: White Chad walk around like nothing is a problem.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: W w c D.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying what would white Chad. I mean,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: he's gonna walk around no problem, walk around with that confidence.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: You gonna get promoted, you gonna be the bost.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, so fake ticket. Giles Nibs. I always
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: have to say his name is the British Giles Nibs.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: That name is the worst.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Honestly, you can't do nothing good with your life.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: For your name is Ji, miss NIBBs, Miss Nibs ell
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: or mister Nibs.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Your parents have to come and pick up to day,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: mister NIBBs.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Hi, mister Nibs recalling in regard to your son.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Imagine hooking up with somebody like that and he's like, hey, okay,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: you can you call me?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh my god.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So Charles Nibs worked for a company's fraud detection department
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and knew how to cheat the system. And this is
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: always necessary, and a good con is like you have
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to have a window of opportunity, and you also have
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: to have like what I call a doggy door.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: There's a front throw as a back door, there's a window,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: but there's always a little doggy door that people kind
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: of forget about.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: They forget it's there.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Like you may lock your.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Windows, you may lock your doors, you may lock your
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: back door, but that doggy door sometimes you forget about it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: People come in the back door all the time. Yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: because unexpected is in the back door and you're like,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: oh shit, what you're doing back then?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Right, So he figures out that he can cheat the system. Nips,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: who works for Camelot between two thousand and four and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: twenty ten, had been in the office late one night
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: when he saw a document being printed containing details of
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: big winds that had not been claimed yet.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Now we got a win of opportunity, right.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Smart, smart, smart Nibs.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And of course he just happened to see this like
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the papers, miss Nips, mister Nibs. So Edward then pressured
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the lottery security employee to help with the scam, after
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: previously making a fake winning ticket for him as a joke.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: So it's crazy to me that he had to pressure him,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, if you may go fake winning ticket
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: as a joke, that ain't no joke.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: You're showing me you can make.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: A fake wedding is illegal. This is illegal. This whole
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: thing is legal. Got I'd be like, hey, hey, hey,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: you ain't about to swindle me.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: So Edward's friend Stephen Warner told the Sunday Mirror that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: pun which what a paper name the Sunday Mirror. Sunday Mirror,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: that paper's going out of business. Come on, black Mirror.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: You know that Putman waved a fake winning ticket in
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: front of neighbors five months before he scooped the jackpot.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: So Putman even went as far as to make friends
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: toast to his win and promised to buy them houses.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: This was a joke that Putnam had put on, so
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: he basically was like, so basically Nibs works in security,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Putnam works with the tickets. Putnam had made a fake
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: ticket and like was like, oh I won, Well all
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I'm buy you houses. It's lit, and then was like
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: ha ha, this was a joke. Tell his friends if
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you did this to me as a friend, like putting
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the I'm gonna beat your ass.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Facts.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Get these hands.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, where's where's the where's the Wh's the house?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I promise people houses.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people, if they already kind
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: of financial distress, were actually like and relieved for a second.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: My name is a dick.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna pay for your
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: cancer treatment. I'm gonna get you a house, Sally gonna
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: walk again.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: He should have got like where I'm from, Like when
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I was growing up, like people wouldn't like beat you up,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: they would just hold you down and just beat your legs.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Behind.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: You would just keep tagging somebody like you, Like everybody
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: would be like six six months just beating somebody late
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: because this would happen. Here's the thing what no bruises
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: can't prove it. And then like people will wobble you
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: remember that for days?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Are you and the mom tries in the mob?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: The legs get the legs, You're good.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I guess that's a scam. You got to read people's legs.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: So he did this whole thing, and then it wasn't funny.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So everyone was like, we weren't impressed that you made
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: this fake ticket. It wasn't funny. Why would you do
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that to friends? And then Giles was like, I wish
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I had asked more questions because then he didn't realize like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: oh man, if you could make a fake winning ticket,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you could do this again if there's money that's unclaimed.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So he kind of put two and two together. Later
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: in the game, but everyone was pissed to him after
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: he did this. He was like, what an asshole. So
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: there had been some trial and error in producing a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: successful forged ticket because there were one hundred different possible
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: unique codes printed on the bottom. So NIBS created numerous
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: different specimens of the forged ticket, each with a different
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: combination of a unique two digit checksum code and all
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the winning numbers for an unclaimed pop Then, with the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: deadline to claim the prize rapidly approaching, mister Putnam allegedly
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: visited twenty nine different shops, providing a different ticket each
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: time before the right number was found. So basically, there's
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: a code at the bottom of the ticket, So even
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: if you make a fake ticket with the fake numbers,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: there's a code that coincides with what the lottery is
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: looking for. So they just had to keep going different
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: lottery places and giving the same winning ticket but with
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a different code on the bottom until they got it right.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: How did one of the twenty something places did not say, Hey,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: that dude came in here with a ticket that didn't
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: match up. I guess no one cares that Like, no.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: One cares. They're like back to my you know what
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Also a convenience store, Like, think about.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Who works in convenience stores. They don't give the fuck.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: True, does the convenience stores get any money if they
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: like the store? So if they're the store that is
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: at they get money too. That's dope, Okay, good for them.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they get a little bonus.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: So the sure the convenience store got to keep they
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: cut because it was like, look, we ain't know that
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: this was a scare.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So lucky convenience store guide looks help somebody.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: So then with the deadline approaching, they went to a
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: bunch of shops and finally they submitted the right ticket.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So Keiley said, the defendant eventually submitted the correct code
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: at a shop in why Combe. That means nothing to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: us on August twenty ninth, two thousand and nine. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: we've pulled up a photo of Nibs.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Oh he.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Looks like a con artist. I know, but it's like
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust it. He has a little bit of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a soul patch. You can't trust anybody who got a
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: soul patch, like they're definitely doing crime. And then this
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: is Putnam. Oh, these men they look like they've been
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: living hard.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Damn I'm to start taking.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we all take a nap right after this. Guys,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: everyone wherever you are, take a nap because you don't
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: want to look like these men, Google, Nibs and Giles there.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: They're a rough bunch. That's what happened when life gets
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: you down right and you don't get back up.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: So they finally submit the winning ticket August twenty nineteenth nine.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: The bottom of the ticket was a bit mangled, but
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Putnam was paid the jackpot by Camelot in September two
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine, despite the bottom of the ticket mangled
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: slip kind of missing the barcode.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: So they did that on purpose.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Oh so they couldn't and they still got the money.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Because it was like, you think about it, it's an
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: older ticket, right, this is the money that hasn't been claimed,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: So it's like maybe it was sitting around and then
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you realized it was winning numbers randomly, So that kind
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of aids up with the story. So the real winning
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: ticket may still be out there, and the real winner
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: has never been identified. After so many years of struggling
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to make ends meet, he couldn't resist flashing his cash.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: His big weakness was cars, and lots of them. According
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to neighbors, there were up to fifty cars at his
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: home in King's Langley, which also has a mobile home
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: in the garden.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: So two MILLI ain't that much.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe he was getting lots of kius.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, what you getting, bru Can he use
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: corollas like?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, but he's got like twelve high
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the civic cent for his house.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Get these used cars out of here day.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: He's not getting like a McLaren or like a Ferrari.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I give me like a Cobra.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely not getting that. He's like got like
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: four miadas.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, don't I mean YadA? Get you through?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: They got twelve KOs Like, sir, what are you doing?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: This makes no sense?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: That's where to get that four folkus?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: He said, look, he likes cars. You gotta get what
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you can't.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: So despite his multimillion pound wind fall, three years later,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, Putnam was sentenced to nine months for
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: benefit fraud after going to claim thirteen thousand dollars in
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: housing and income support. So this doing stole the latto
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and then went to get on welfare.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Listen, he went and got on welfare.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Like I told y'all earlier, when you go to work,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: all right, just act like you have the confidence of
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: just a straight white man, right because I'm like, this shit,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: don't make me. I'm a game. This system for two
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: three million dollars technically, and I gotta go. I spent
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: it on Kiyas and Toyota Corollas and no, I gotta
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: go to wealfit.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And this guy is not a good guy.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Normally, I would praise scammers for like going out and
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: getting a welfare check on top of being a millionaire,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: because that is hilarious and perfect. But he's done some
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: pretty fucked up stuff that I'm not going to get
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: too deep into because that's not what we do here.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: But he had some assault charges. He had the jail, yeah,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and some of these were like two women. So he's
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: just like not a good guy. He told people that
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: his money came from property developing. No one had any
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: inkling that he was a lottery winner, and to be honest,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: no one in the village wanted anything to do with him.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: So according to a neighbor, he's not a pleasant man,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: but just did what he wanted. Let's put it this way,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: he's never going to be a candidate from Neighbor of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the Year.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So he was also a trash.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Man, so no one cared about you're a trash dude,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: and so which one is the one who calibbs there
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: was nothing? How do trash people always succeed right.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Cause they're not I talk about this on another episode,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: but like they don't have any empathy, Like, and when
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you don't have any empathy, you'd be sleeping real good.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, you're right, it's got to be it
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: because I mean, you're out here just doing whatever you
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: want doing. Don't give a ship.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but his neighbors hated him. I'm sure they hated
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that he had fifty chevrolets on the on the yard.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: And also like if this was mister Rogers neighborhood, no
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: one would want to be his neighbor. No, like, we
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: don't want you to be our neighbor.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Not even the puppets.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Props be like, fuck off, the male man, not fucking
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: with you. Nobody fucking with you.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Every time they ceo as ain't nobody switching their shoes
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and they sweater?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: What would you do if you want like the lottery. Though,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: do you know do you have an idea of Like, yo,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: first thing first, I'm doing this, this and that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting a really nice house. I'm getting a
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: super nice car. I'm saving. I don't know what else
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I want.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: See. I like that. That's classy. You know what I'm saying.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I probably buy my parents' house. But then I'm petty.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I would spend most of my money getting back at people.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying in the most extravackant ways.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: That's a movie.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: It's like like if you if you you know, if
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: you bullying me in high school and I find out
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: you're working out, that's so.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Much work dry you can just enjoy the money.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: That This is me enjoying the money, like this is
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I have. The thing is I have no day job.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I have nothing to do but to plan revenge on you, Like, oh,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: you work at this coffee shop, I'm gonna buy a
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: coffee shop.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: The best success is revenge.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: No it's not.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I mean the best success is revew revenge.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Is sixty people say that. But my thing is this,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: You're not feeling the pain though you know, you don't
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: think they are.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: That's what Instagram is for. Instagram is too flex on
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: your enemies.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: You know what, if that's the case, You're right. You
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna have to buy the apartment building there.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna come out. I just want them to
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: know that at any moment, I could do it about
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: you know, they could move and then you just are
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: you have an apartment, so you know what better business me?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: You got to move to another apartment because you lived
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: in this one. I would buy that with too, because
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: now I got one successful apartment. This is insane.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Also, please let me know about all of these takes
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: beating people in the legs.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: All your money.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: That's real. No, I never did that rab.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Run.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: So this is when things got messy.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: It wasn't messy yet. Like wait, this whole time, I.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Guess that he's just had a lot of Toyota corollas.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Evidence suggests that mister NIBBs was paid an initial two
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty thousand from Putnam for his part of
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the alleged con followed by much smaller increments totaling fifty
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars, but he was angry not to receive more
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: money and The pair clashed bitterly in twenty fifteen over
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: what he considered Putnam's betrayal. So he thinks at this point,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Putnam's like not handing over enough money. Also, bruh, So
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you don't even got the full three million and you
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: got fifty cars. Make it make sense? I know what
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: kind of cars are these? Their key is big wheels.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, my nigga, how.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: They gotta be used cars? Right, they got reused. They
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: gotta be ones with a din in it. That's like
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I wanted this. I had a match box that his
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: cars just buying.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: My man is going to police auctions. He's like, yeah,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: it's a little blood.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: On it, but yo, it's a car, and you know
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I need a car. I might go to a police auction.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I need a car too. Maybe I'll go to shoot.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: They probably got drug dealer calls.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Probably you gotta do is sage it to get the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: burder off of it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: And also if it's a drug that they just got caught.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Also, but how fresh though, because if the drug dealer
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: is out here on the streets, I don't want to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: body keeping my car. And then thinking I'm you know
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: so and so, and in they spraying my car and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: lightening it up. I feel like gang bangers don't check
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: license plates. I feel like you're not like, oh, look
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: at those that bend number.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: That's the guy you shoot him. That's a good point.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: But you know what though, maybe if it's like super cheap,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you can't repaint it or something. I don't know how much.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we'll figure this out.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: We just scammed the police auctions, right, that's my next scam.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like the police auctions have plenty to be scammed.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So things get messy when evidence has suggested that mister
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: NIBBs was paid initial so all this money, right, this
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: is the issue.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: So mister NIBBs is partner.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Oliver that you're trying to say fresh and I'm like, yo,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: you keeep saying mister NIBBs, just like things got nibby,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: mister NIBBs did this. I'm like, bro, get this med
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: a code name, yo, mister black all right.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: So Oliver o'pheelin was his partner. Said he had been
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: introduced to Eddie Putnam and his partner Lida. He described
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: mister Punnan as a loud man who liked to show off.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: He said Lida was a lovely lady. Okay, come on, Lida.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: So in May of June twenty fifteen May and June
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: of twenty fifteen, he asked mister Putnam why they were
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: not seeing them. He was told by mister NIBBs it
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: was because mister Putnam owed him a lot of money.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: So I guess they're not hanging out. And then this
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: this uh or filling guy Oliver. These are such British
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: ass names. Oliver, Oliver Twist. So Oliver is somehow in
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the scene. I guess this is mister NIBBs partner. And
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: he's like, well, why are you not hanging out with Putnam?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: No?
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: More like he was like, I'm hanging out him. He
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: robbing me, bro like he trying to scat a SCAMMERA.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Ohy, can we do dolla? Is that is that? Wait?
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Who you? Who are you? Right now? You miss damn you?
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I'll be putting them.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Amen, I'm out here getting a swim. Man.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Come on, man, you see I sew your the corollas
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: out here. Man. It said enough, it said.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Enough, man. I really don't know why. Then your house
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: looked like gon use.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Car because I'm trying to build up to a Mercedes.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: That's not how cars work. Get a lot of shitty
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: cars and then it becomes a nice car.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: That's what you do. You votrying the car.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: The money I gave you two hundred and eighty thousand.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: And that's nothing for me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I can't eat with that. Look me and my wife
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: later gotta go our boat here.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: You got a boat you swimming?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I did with my hair.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: With the money, you can swim. And now all of
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: a sudden they're black. So this gam and the fall
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: apart as a friendship and former business partners deteriorate it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: So Nib's behavior became increasingly erratic. He began revealing details
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of the fraud to friends after failing to receive what
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: he agreed to be Like a million pounds is what
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: he was supposed to get. So a friend staying with
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Nibs before his death. So Nibs was the one who
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: committed suicide. Oh, Nibs was a bad guy. So he
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: was a bad guy though he like did assaults to women. Yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he's not a good guy. He's a guy that nobody
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: wanted to be the neighbor with, Like he's you know
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: what I mean, like not that I'm not that's a
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: very serious topic. But I don't feel bad for him
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: because's person. But he was telling everybody now about the
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: con because now he's mad. So and he in his
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: streets just stool pigeoning. He's out here like Takashi all
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, his hair is rainbow colored. Yeah, he's
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: sitting on everybody like people don't even need to be
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: snitched on.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: You know, Lacey stole some gum when she was twelve.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: No one was talking about that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Nibs stole stole some gum from a corner store. She
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: didn't get twenty five cent up nips. That's the statute
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: of limitations. Ain't up on that? Which saying I want
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: people to know. Do you listeners know? Do you listeners know? So?
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: He confronted Putnam in a heated argument in June of
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, breaking Putnam's car wing mirror and stealing his phone.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Damn wow, it's still his phone.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: It's not like a side piece. This is like this,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: not like when you when you ain't get somebody a gift.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You got you got, you
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: got your you got your main a gift and then
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: the side piece find out about the real gift and
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, oh for real, what do I what
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I got? I blup your whole ship?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Right. I feel like if you're beating people's cars and ship,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: like that's passion, y'ah passions y what you I'm just like,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: get the money. So Nibs was subsequently arrested for burglary, blackmail,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and criminal damage after Puttnam put in a complaint to
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the police. Wait a minute, Puttnam's page gonna be snitching.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: When you are in a full blown crime. You did
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: crime with this man. You can't use the police when
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: you're doing You gotta go beat his legs.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Also, you can't go to the cops.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, you beat his legs. You beat you
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: definitely cannot just go to the cops. But apparently he
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: went to the cops and got the law. In British
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: people are so damn civil. This is so British. Everything
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: about this is so British, Like, how do you go
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to the cops when you are literally doing crime with
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: this man? You're like, hey, you climb up to my
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: house and go really upset because we did a crime
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: together and he's not happy about his unions in the crime.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: So I just really need to report him to the
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: police like.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: To do.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: If you're in the game, you got.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: To be in it. I know, man, It's one of
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: the things where it's like but also you know what
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: it is though what he's like, I'm gonna get ahead
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: of this, you know what I mean. He's like, I
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: can get you locked up. I ain't gonna give you
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: none of this money.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: But also that's not how it works, like deals, Like
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: if I were to sing on you about something bigger
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: than they would want us for the bigger crime.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: But you're a criminal already. Do ain't gonna believe no criminals?
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe nobody watches I got a wife in the house.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I'm like, they're gonna believe me. I'm an upstand right,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: and he's the uglier guys don't like him, right, block
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: him up the way to gee.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: So getting caught on October fifth and twenty fifteen, Nibs
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: unfortunately committed suicide after fearing that he would go down
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: for ten to fifteen years for blackmail. When the trial
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: was hurt as a result, Putnam was arrested and eventually
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: went to trial. Putnam, who arrived at court with his
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: face mask wearing dark glasses, c you talking about raw face.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: He came with his face mask wearing dark glass, denies
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: fraud by false representation, and the trial continues. Judge Philip
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Gray said that the sophisticated, carefully planned and digitally operated
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: fraud struck at the heart of the integrity of the
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: National Lottery. He said, you would have gotten away with
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: this quite plainly, but you were greedy, and he's right.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: He should have.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Gave him the other half of money. Whenever you get greedy,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that's when you shit blow up. That's exactly how the
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: college cheating scandal blew up was.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: One guy got green. He trying to cut out the
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: middleman and then they got caught. So like, you just
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: can't get grady. Guys.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: You could have been sneaking people into college for Kingdom
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: till Kingdom come.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: You could have won the lotto and.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Got away with it, tendeth. It was a three million
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: he got you to give me and you had two
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: mil Come.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: On, dude, damn.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: So the fact that Camelot had been hoodwinked in this
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: way will of course be damaging to its reputation, like
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: they're probably not gonna be running.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're still running the lottery.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: But the judge sentence Edward Puttingham to nine years in jail,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't say anything here about restitution.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if you just got to keep.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: No man, he had to pay that back, but he
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: had to go to jail for nine years.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not gonna serve all of that. You know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: He's going to Arthur Stuart jail. I'm sure British jail
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: is like so quaint.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you know, did did that actress have
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: to go to jail for the college candle? Or she
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: didn't go to jail her name? Who? Oh?
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the desperation have been had fourteen days, fourteen days,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: they have hard jail time.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Yo. I'm not gonna lie y'all man. I'm not trying
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: to show you why people on this podcast, but I
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: just I need that.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: If I could just super power it up and it's like,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: oh ship, bad shit happening, Press the button and I'm saved, yo,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: and you just safe. That's it. Nine years he'd probably
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: served what five like maybe on good behavior.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Good behavior, he sounds like a likable guy. Damn well,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: you know what shout out to these artists. You guys
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: aren't good guys, so I can't really praise you.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: But this is a good con. That's a good count.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: But y'all fucked it up. You fun with the bag
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: for no reason. You couldn't just give my man's the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: money he was asking for.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Yo, I got it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Don't get greedy. That's one of the essential rules of
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: scamming congregation.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Don't get greedy.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: This could be set it off for the new era.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: So instead of them robbing white British dudes, instead of
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: like I heard I heard, trying to do, you can
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: have four black women be like, yo, you know what,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: we ain't gonna work at this company no more. We
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: ain't gonna we ain't gonna rob them physically, We're gonna
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: rob them mentally by outswindling them with the computer systems
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: they don't think we know how to use. And now
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: you got set it off.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know how, but I can't take cloth like
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: a can't disappeared on draws and he'd suddenly wearing a
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: necklace and he's gone full.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Of test y. Did ya did this to me with
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: these Brits on.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: That's gross. Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: But scammer of the week last segment, So, an employee
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: of the restaurant reservation app Open Table made a few
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: hundred false reservations at forty five restaurants. Dozens of Chicago
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: restaurant owners were scratching their heads over the fake reservation scam.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: He called himself Hans Gruber and Jimmy Smith's and other
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: phony names.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Those names don't sound real. If you call me, you're like, Hi,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: my name is Hans.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I would like to take you. Hans Gruber is one
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: of the best movie villains of all time. Right, I
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: love heart best Right. And then he said Jimmy Smith, Yes,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I was messed up. That's a real person. You asked.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: That's so rude.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith's like, suddenly, can't go to any restaurants. You're like, no, sorry, Jimmy,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: We've had it with you. You can't make any restaurant. So,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: among other phony names, while making hundreds of fake online reservations,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: according to prosecutors.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Prosecutors, you could get you come Jepitus.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait, what is the San Francisco tech
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: company he worked for, called him a rogue employee who
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: took it upon himself to make the competition look bad.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: So now federal prosecutors say dozens of Chicago restaurant managers
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: can call Stephen Addison the culprit of a bogus booking
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: scheme that left more than thousands of their seats empty
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: on normal busy nights, costing them thousands of dollars in
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: lost sales. Addison was charged on Thursday by the US
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: District Court with one count of wire fraud for the
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: dinner deserting scam that was uncovered earlier this year. This
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: individual was making reservations, then confirming them so that we
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: block off the tables and then would not show up,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: said the owner of Tavern on the Park. The targeted
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: restaurants all used a competing app called Reserve for customers
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: to make the reservations. Oh so he was just trying
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to ruin open table for them so that people would
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: start using their aps.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: This is so petty. I love it. I loved that.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: The company said that he acted alone. They were like
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: he was a rogue and what he was doing, yeah,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I knew.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine coming in like a yo, my I
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: gotta wait to fix it. I gotta wait to crash
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: the system, you know what I mean. I'm gonna just
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: do it for my laptop and make all these reservations.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna close everything down, and the joke's gonna be
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: on them because they're gonna have empty restaurants. This nigga
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: thought he was crushing it with this.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: But he was because he works for the reserve apps.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: So it drove traffic to the other app because open
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Table was crashing.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Because he was crashing it.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: I'm about this, yo. This is so petty, like this
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: is even a real scam to me, This is just
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: like a swindle that some dude did, and it's just.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Why you got to go to jail for this. This
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: is called capitalism. This is literally capitalism what Americans do.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Wait, they say what the person's name is.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: The guy's name is Steven Addison, So we don't know, we.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Don't know the nights they put they put him in jail.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: This sounds like, do you think it's Stevie?
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I think I got to Google. I got to Google.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: So he would use fake names, email addresses, addresses, and
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: phone numbers to book the tables through reserve on the
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: busy nights like New Year's Eve and Valentine's Day. I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: used to work in restaurants. Those are the two most
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: popping knights and restaurants. Everyone wants to go to dinner
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: before they go to the club on New Year's Eve,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: and then everybody got to take their side hose out
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: and their main hose out for Valentine's Day. I would
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: work Valentine's Day, and you don't make a lot of
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: money because it's like when all the poor people start
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: to go out to eat, because it's like, yeah, because
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: all the like I worked at a really nice restaurant,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: and it would be like all the broke dudes like
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: splurging for the night, you know what I mean. So
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't really be in there balling out like on
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a regular Tuesday. How most of our guests would be Also, violence.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Be a swindle, you know what I'm saying. I feel
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: like that's a swindle day. Why there's my thing like
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Valentine's Day. I'm like, yo, let me celebrate the day
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: before in the day after.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Hear me out, that sounds like you are cheating on
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: whoever you're with. No, No, the pressure sees you're on
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: bowents Day.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Because that's the pressure is like the day is so
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: the day is so faked. I'm like, I don't want
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: to celebrate you on this fake day. I won't let
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: you know that I celebrate you before and after the day.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: That is literally like a textbook line from like a
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: nigga who cheats on you, like Ani.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Who at least has several kids and wives.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I hear now that I said, all, I hear it.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: But you know what, though, you still get the celebration.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: But you know, for women, though, it's such a fun
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: holiday because you get all these gifts, well if you're
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: dating someone and you pretty much can just keep regifted
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the same vagina every year for Valentine's Day. I went
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: to European wax Center Life yesterday and I haven't gotten
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: a wax in years, and oh my god, it was
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: so painful and horrible. But like I went there and
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: it was popping because it was a Saturday, so all
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: the women were in there getting their waxes and I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: was nine minutes late to my appointment and they were like, oh,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: you're nine minutes late, so unfortunately I was Unfortunately, I'm
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: gonna get it. I'll pay, I'll pay anything. They're like, no,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: you just have to wait in the back of the queue.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: There was this lady there and she was like, I
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: was twenty minutes late, so I'm waiting in the back
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: of the queue too. She was like, it's my husband's birthday, though,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: so I gotta get his gift ready.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, hey, man, fellas, can we give things like
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: can we just be like, hey, hey, listen, you know
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: this penis gonna be the gift for Valentine's No, pinas
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: is never a gift, so they could be like, hey, listen,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: you know, listen, I wrapped it up nice to start.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: It's like I got some new draws on the day.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: I shaped up my stuff a little bit. So we
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: donated never enough.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Only that's the real scam. Women.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: We can keep gifting vagina for years to come, but
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: nobody wants a penis gift.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: I mean it is like, amen, he's like, hey, you
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: know what I did some stretches. Oh no, it's just
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: No, we all know that's a scam. No one, whatever happen.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Come on, fellas, you gotta be able to do something.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Got to regift some stuff.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: You can give a bag. Nobody want penis as a gift.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: As a gift, I get that anywhere.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Honestly, right, women can get penis anywhere. Dude, be like,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: oh what I can't?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I can hit Oh yeah yeah yeah honor, it's an honor.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: But we all know man or trash. Penis is everywhere.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Oh god, penis is like that thing that everyone's trying
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: to sell you all the time, Like.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I don't want to buy it, Like I'm good, that's
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: why you're being gifted it. You're not buying it, You're
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: being gifted.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Would you like to switch your penis pro rider today?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm like no, I'm good with my current penis providers.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: But also, but the thing is this penis has been
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: upgraded because it is like if there's a holiday, you've
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: done new shit to your penis. You know what I'm saying.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Think about like butting you've.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Done over the holidays to your penis to make it better.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: For instance, like just like how you would go to
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: uh and get a wax. You could get like a
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: little you and get a little weight and do penis lifts,
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: so now you got strongle penis from you know what
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I was, I'm gonna start
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: selling penis weights. Yo, You're probably makes so much money.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you just do a little flex and it's
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: like yeah, strongkle penis.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Oh lord Jesus, so Madison.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Addison's scheme intended to demonstrate to the Chicago restaurants that
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Reserve had an inferior reservation system.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Oop.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: And I just realized that I switched these So this
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: guy worked for Open Table and he was booking in
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: a competitive app, Reserve.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that so this is also like big money ship.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: He was trying to crash. He was trying to.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Crash Reserve, which I've never even heard of Reserve. So
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Reserve is probably the small time money app.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: He did it, he worked, it worked right, And they
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: said that.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: He intended to demonstrate that shook to the Chicago's restaurant
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: said Reserve had an inferior reservation system by crashing it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Prosecutors concurred that Addison made reservations on his own accord
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: and did not personally profit from the scheme. I find
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: that impossible.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah too, I mean they knew also, like why would
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: the big company tat to tick out the little dog?
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: What I mean right, exactly this one. But that's what
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: big companies do. That's what capitalism is all about. That's
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: literally monopoly. Has anyone ever finished a game of Monopoly?
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I don't play Monopoly realamed because there's so many different ones.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: And also like I I'll suck it. I am terrible
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: abboor games. I gu's so antsy.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like super violent too.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Wait Monopoly.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never played Monopoly and not gotten into a fight.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I have a scar.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Wait is Monopoly? That's don't pass go?
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah that game gets intense. People be cheating, hide money
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: out of the boar. Next thing, you know, you got
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: a greenhouse stuck in your eye.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: It excalates very quickly.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so this is like so an monopoly thing
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: of just trying to crash the little guy to make
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: more profit.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Dang. See that's why. See, that's why I'm playing Monopoly.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I don't play what was it?
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: I don't go to recess because I don't play me.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Now come on us, well, thank you so much for
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: being here.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: What you kicking me out?
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am kicking you out. That's how this works.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: We are at the end of the podcast.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Wait that's it?
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Oh my god? Is there anywhere that you want to
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: be found?
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I gotta be better promote, So follow me at draw
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Meligan on Twitter and Instagram. And not to plug a
• 55:33
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• 55:36
  Speaker 3: each other. Uh, if you go to Forever Dog, Black
• 55:40
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  Speaker 3: of color and talk about how to man trying to
• 55:45
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• 55:50
  Speaker 2: It's a very fun show.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: I've done that.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: It's a good show, all.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Right, guys, And as always, you can email us with
• 55:56
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• 56:00
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