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Ep.689: Early Season Whitetail Tips (Rut Fresh Radio 9.6.23) · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the
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  Speaker 1: latest reports from the whitetail woods, presented by First Light,
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  Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
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  Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts
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  Speaker 1: case Smith and Tyler Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Retfresh Radio, brought to you by First Like Gear.
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  Speaker 3: I'm your host k C. Smith. Guess what dear season
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  Speaker 3: is upon us?
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  Speaker 2: Excitement is high, However, the hot weather seems to be
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  Speaker 2: getting away for a lot of hunters around the country.
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  Speaker 3: This is rough Fresh. Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: This is rot Fresh Radio, brought to you by FirstLight Gear.
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  Speaker 2: This is the show that you remember for having the
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  Speaker 2: freshest whitetail information from around the country.
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  Speaker 3: We go in to all the nooks and.
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  Speaker 2: Crannies of all the whitetail woods and pull out some
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  Speaker 2: of the best reports for anyone and everyone who's interested
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  Speaker 2: in going out whitetail hunting. I'm your host Casey Smith,
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  Speaker 2: joined by Tyler Jones, and also we have got Mark
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  Speaker 2: Kenyon on the line of Wired to Hunt Fame. Mark,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: It's good to be here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's we were just talking before we start recording
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  Speaker 5: that this might be like season seven or eight or
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  Speaker 5: nine of Reugh Fresh.
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  Speaker 4: As a mini series of Wired Hunt.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know exactly what it is, but it's We've
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  Speaker 5: been doing this a long time and I'm very excited
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  Speaker 5: that it's still going and that you guys are at
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  Speaker 5: the helm helping keep this this part of the ship
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  Speaker 5: afloat because this is one of my personal favorite things
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  Speaker 5: we do every year. So thanks for being back, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, it's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's cool getting to talk to people around the country
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  Speaker 2: and of course getting to talk to you from time
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  Speaker 2: to time to hear the Michigan viewpoint on on things.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that was a question I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: ask you, thinking about, you know, the history of Retfresh radio.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you remark that this is one of your
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  Speaker 2: favorite things that comes out. Do you have a situation
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  Speaker 2: that you can remember where information given on Retfresh directly
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  Speaker 2: impacted a hunt and maybe brought you a bug?
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  Speaker 5: Hmmm, that's a good question, and off the top of
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  Speaker 5: my head, I don't know if I could think of
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  Speaker 5: a like specific situation where, like, man, what I heard
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  Speaker 5: this day impacted my hunts, you know, right away, and
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  Speaker 5: I killed the deer because of it. But it definitely
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  Speaker 5: is like I make a I don't listen to I
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  Speaker 5: don't listen to my own podcasts obviously because.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to hear myself. Schever, Joe, I'll take
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  Speaker 4: that back.
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  Speaker 5: I occasionally do re listen to like really old archival ones,
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  Speaker 5: and I just like fast forward the intro where I
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  Speaker 5: talk for a long time because I want to hear
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  Speaker 5: like just that guest is I don't remember the stuff,
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  Speaker 5: but in the season, like I'm not listening to new
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  Speaker 5: stuff of course, So what I do listen to those.
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  Speaker 5: I do like to listen to every brought fresh radio
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  Speaker 5: because you're hearing from you know, four or five different
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  Speaker 5: people across the country. They've got different ideas. They're seeing
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  Speaker 5: things that maybe I'll be seeing soon or maybe I
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  Speaker 5: just saw. And I'm curious of compare notes. So I
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  Speaker 5: can't think of a specific example right now. I can
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  Speaker 5: tell you, like two thousand percent it has helped me.
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  Speaker 5: It has like kept me, you know, keeping ideas fresh
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  Speaker 5: in my mind, or gave me a new idea or
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  Speaker 5: pointing me in a direction that maybe just got me
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  Speaker 5: thinking about something that I was able to apply later
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  Speaker 5: down the road. So yeah, like the idea of what
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  Speaker 5: this thing, what we wanted this thing to be. However
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  Speaker 5: many years ago it was that we started this, you know,
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  Speaker 5: mini series. It has absolutely become that thing, like the
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  Speaker 5: thing that I want. You know, It's like every week
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  Speaker 5: I like to text my buddies or call a couple
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  Speaker 5: of friends saying, hey, what are you seeing?
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  Speaker 4: What what are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: What's how's that call front impacting you? Or what do
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  Speaker 5: you think about this moon phase? Or man, how's the
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  Speaker 5: drop and impacting your dear sidings? Right, I'm sure you
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  Speaker 5: guys have got a bunch of buddies that you're kind
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  Speaker 5: of you know, John with back and forth and comparing notes,
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  Speaker 5: and this is a way to do that, but on
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  Speaker 5: a weekly scale with a much wider network.
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  Speaker 4: So we all are really lucky that we get to
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  Speaker 4: tap into this, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think every week, and you know, I'm certainly enjoying and
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  Speaker 5: benefiting from it. So what was it like if you
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  Speaker 5: don't mind me stealing your thunder and asking you guys
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  Speaker 5: a question?
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  Speaker 4: Now, you know, what was the experience like for you
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  Speaker 4: guys last year?
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  Speaker 5: Because you for years, right, you guys were occasionally guests
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  Speaker 5: on Refresh Radio and like sharing what you were seeing
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  Speaker 5: with people when Spencer called you, and maybe you listened
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  Speaker 5: to some episodes of Refresh Radio.
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  Speaker 4: Back in the day and use that to get some ideas.
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  Speaker 5: What was the experience like last year being put into
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  Speaker 5: the driver's seat and all of a sudden you were
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  Speaker 5: hosting the miniseries. You were you know, asking people questions.
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  Speaker 4: Did that ended up?
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  Speaker 5: You know, was it did you learn more because of that?
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  Speaker 5: Or was it did you just blaze over and forget
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  Speaker 5: it all?
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  Speaker 3: What was that? Like? No, I think it was a
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  Speaker 3: learning experience, man, I feel like, so there was this
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  Speaker 3: weird thing that happened, which you actually, I think this
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  Speaker 3: is off air, but we were talking about some one
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  Speaker 3: week stuff and you kind of had the same sentiment
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  Speaker 3: where we were out in the field, like the first
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  Speaker 3: week in November and there was some pretty sluggish movement.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, if you were just hunting with your
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  Speaker 3: buddies in a certain area of the US and you
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  Speaker 3: saw that sluggish movement in early November, you might just
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  Speaker 3: be like, oh, they're nocturnal, it's too hot. Whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you or just whatever. You may not really understand this,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean legitimately, one thing we learned last year
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  Speaker 3: through doing Retfresh was that the like a big portion
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  Speaker 3: of the US actually had I mean like a late rut.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was legitimately a week behind or more
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  Speaker 3: in a lot of places. It seemed like, I mean
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  Speaker 3: across the board, we heard that that was the case.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know, there's so many variables, right, like
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  Speaker 3: it could be you know, a million different things from
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  Speaker 3: whether temperatures to moon or whatever. But and we travel
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  Speaker 3: a lot too, so we were seeing that in multiple states,
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  Speaker 3: multiple areas. But to be able to have those guys
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  Speaker 3: say hey, for some reason, like you know, the teens
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  Speaker 3: of November were way better than the first you know,
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  Speaker 3: ten days, and it just kind of it makes you
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  Speaker 3: feel like you're a little less on an island. And
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  Speaker 3: then yeah, I also think that like there's a huge
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  Speaker 3: inspiration factor here on this podcast where it's like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you may you know, you get so wrapped up and
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  Speaker 3: works a lot of times that you just kind of
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  Speaker 3: forget to check the weather and be excited about what's coming,
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  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, you know you're working,
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  Speaker 3: you're building a house, you know you're a framer or
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  Speaker 3: whatever you might be. You got the podcast going on
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  Speaker 3: refreshing somebody's you know, in your neck of the woods
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  Speaker 3: or where you're going to end up being in November,
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, well next you know, you ask them
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  Speaker 3: scale one to ten, what what's the next week look
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  Speaker 3: like for you? You're like, well, there's a cold front
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  Speaker 3: coming in, and all of a sudden you just HiPE
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  Speaker 3: and you start making plans and it is It is
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  Speaker 3: inspirational where like you want to get in the woods
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  Speaker 3: because you figure out like maybe things are happening and
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  Speaker 3: you got too busy for a little bit there, or
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  Speaker 3: even just a guy may be like hey, and you
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  Speaker 3: you kind of a loaded this earlier, but like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: since this is happening, you can kill a deer in
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  Speaker 3: this way and you didn't think about that until then,
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  Speaker 3: And all of a sudden you're like, yeah, let's let's
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  Speaker 3: try that next week.
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  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, well, you guys have talked about this
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  Speaker 5: for years. The benefit of like having a hunting buddy
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  Speaker 5: with you just is like throwing new ideas at you
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  Speaker 5: right just to like trigger different thoughts or that you're
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  Speaker 5: hearing what they're doing and that makes you think maybe
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  Speaker 5: I should just rethink, you know, get out of your
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  Speaker 5: own little tunnel vision a little bit. I've always felt
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  Speaker 5: like this podcast kind of functions in that kind of
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  Speaker 5: way because every single week you're getting five different hunting
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  Speaker 5: buddies ideas for the week or perspective from that week,
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  Speaker 5: and it's the same kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: Can just like get you out.
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  Speaker 5: Of your own head and get some new stuff into
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  Speaker 5: the mix, and that sometimes is all you need to
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  Speaker 5: get point in.
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  Speaker 4: The right direction.
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  Speaker 5: So there's a long winded way of saying, I'm excited
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  Speaker 5: for what's coming this week and all these nice couple
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  Speaker 5: of months.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think that hype is a big part
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  Speaker 2: of what makes this fun, you know, like the best part, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, It's just like right now we're on the
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  Speaker 2: cusp of like why to hunting. Some people are even
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  Speaker 2: already doing it, you know, and we'll talk to those
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  Speaker 2: guys here in a minute. But there's like this aspect
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  Speaker 2: of you know, kay Tyler's talking about like around the country,
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  Speaker 2: there's also like this upwelling of just all of us
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  Speaker 2: people who are deer hunters that are all just kind
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  Speaker 2: of starting to get excited. And one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I noticed last year was that people would and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not because I think that people's ratings.
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  Speaker 3: Are their ratings.
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  Speaker 2: I don't try to like read too much into it, right,
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  Speaker 2: But you hardly ever have anybody who's like, oh it's
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't very good.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a two.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: They'll be like, oh, it's not very good. It's like
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  Speaker 2: a five. And it's like that's because you love to
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  Speaker 2: deer hunt man. Even when it's not good, it's still
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  Speaker 2: pretty good, you know. So it's a little bit encouraging
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  Speaker 2: when you start hearing those numbers, you know, because I
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  Speaker 2: could I can remember doing this. Some people like it
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  Speaker 2: was okay, I'll give it like a seven. I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: seven is pretty good, man, I.
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  Speaker 4: Say that too. There a couple of times, Casey where
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  Speaker 4: you were trying to get people to be a little
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  Speaker 4: more realistic, like, come on, really.
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  Speaker 6: This is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I try to be a realist, but you know, man,
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  Speaker 2: that internal optimist just shines through sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: So I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, I think that's why we asked the
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  Speaker 2: questions and don't just ask for the ratings, right, so
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  Speaker 2: you get a little bit more insight into that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: So, right, I love that just you get the color,
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  Speaker 5: you get, you know, a prediction of what they're expecting
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  Speaker 5: is coming week or what they just experienced last week.
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  Speaker 5: But then also, you know, I've always found my favorite
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  Speaker 5: thing is like hearing a specific person's you know, particular
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  Speaker 5: ideas for how they dealt with like this, so circumstances,
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  Speaker 5: like what did you think about this very specific thing?
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  Speaker 4: Or you know, I love the details in this show.
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  Speaker 5: Like a lot of long podcasts, like my regular shows, right,
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  Speaker 5: you can talk to some thee for an hour and
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  Speaker 5: a half and you're kind of all over the place
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  Speaker 5: stories and yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's great. But what
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  Speaker 5: I've always liked about Rough Fresh is like when you
• 10:05
  Speaker 5: can be like, man, all right, there was cold weather
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  Speaker 5: three days ago the hit Nebraska. How did that impact
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  Speaker 5: things for you in the eastern part of the state,
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  Speaker 5: Like I can sew think, those very specific things just
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  Speaker 5: shine a different kind of light that you can then
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  Speaker 5: apply to you know, your own your own hunts.
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  Speaker 3: So yeaheah, I love it, yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And speaking of applying things to your own hunts, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: if I remember right, we did this intro episode last
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  Speaker 2: year and you kind of had a theme for this
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: season that was and you can correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but essentially it's like a back to basics or maybe
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to how to say this show
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  Speaker 2: but not.
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  Speaker 3: Cool values like what what getting back to? Like why
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  Speaker 3: you do this?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Not trying too hard for the wrong reasons, right, And
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  Speaker 2: it seems like that really paid off for you. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you had a great season last year. You killed some
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  Speaker 2: really nice bucks man, so congrats on that. And so
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  Speaker 2: giving forward to this year, are are you continuing on
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  Speaker 2: and trying to kind of expand upon that approach or
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  Speaker 2: do you look at this season differently?
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  Speaker 4: So so.
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying to avoid the sophomore slump. So if if
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  Speaker 5: last year, like I was, my hunting buddies, like another
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  Speaker 5: group chat called it fun season, like hashtag fun season.
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  Speaker 5: Whenever they're like joking, they're referring to like my year,
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  Speaker 5: like the what I was trying to do just get
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  Speaker 5: back to having fun and everything.
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  Speaker 4: So fun season was a huge success last year.
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  Speaker 5: I can already feel like some of the old just
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  Speaker 5: things about me like kind of coming back in like
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  Speaker 5: I can find I can see myself like ah, man,
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  Speaker 5: you know, would be really kind of fun to hold
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  Speaker 5: out for that like big, big giant and maybe that
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  Speaker 5: one buck only and or maybe I gotta go to
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  Speaker 5: Illinois because I didn't get after like a really certain
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  Speaker 5: specific kind of deer.
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  Speaker 4: Like all these things that you know, I.
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  Speaker 5: Like to do that are fun to do, but could
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  Speaker 5: like put you know, more pressure or more whatever on me.
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  Speaker 5: I want to like maintain some like moderation across what
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  Speaker 5: I do instead of becoming a freak, which I think
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  Speaker 5: has always been like my one of my kryptonites. So
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  Speaker 5: I want to maintain the fun season spirit and not
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  Speaker 5: fall back into my old way. So that's the biggest thing,
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  Speaker 5: is like not get too hung up on any one
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  Speaker 5: thing too much. Just have fun with it. And I
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  Speaker 5: mean that's that's really it. I mean, I just I
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: felt really good about last year. What I guess I
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  Speaker 5: realized though, is like not every year is going to
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  Speaker 5: go that well, right. I mean, so I've constantly reminded
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  Speaker 5: myself this past year is like you can do everything
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  Speaker 5: right and you're still gonna have some of those years
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  Speaker 5: where you know, things just don't fall into place the
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  Speaker 5: right way.
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  Speaker 4: So last year I did.
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  Speaker 5: Them some things right and things did fall my way.
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  Speaker 5: This year, I might do it all right, and it
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  Speaker 5: just cars might be different, so I need to make sure.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 5: But all that said, you know, I've been organizing my
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  Speaker 5: my hunts and my plans and stuff around getting some
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  Speaker 5: more time with friends and family while still doing some
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  Speaker 5: great hunts.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm really excited about that.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, this is really everything that I had
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  Speaker 5: last year going into it.
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  Speaker 4: It's just trying to maintain it this year. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: changing the script. I just want to like make sure
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't a fluke.
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  Speaker 5: I want to show some consistency and that continue to
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  Speaker 5: kind of mature as a hunter, enjoy it, really keep
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  Speaker 5: keep that good thing going, and you know, we'll see
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  Speaker 5: where the cards fall. But but yeah, I'm it's a
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  Speaker 5: very long winded way of saying I'm excited to have fun.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited to do some hunt with my dad, excited
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  Speaker 5: to do some more hunting with our buddy Hilliard. I'm
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  Speaker 5: excited to get after some local deer but also do
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  Speaker 5: a couple of fun trips. And man, it's almost here.
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  Speaker 5: I leave for my first trip next week, so Costa.
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  Speaker 3: Man, that's cool. Your first trip is next week.
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  Speaker 2: If people are listening the week this comes out, there
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  Speaker 2: is a awesome hunt from you from last year. That's
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  Speaker 2: one of the bucks were alluding to that just came
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  Speaker 2: out for one week in November.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Yeah, So then you go.
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  Speaker 2: Check that out if they If they haven't, we'll put
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  Speaker 2: a link to that in the description as well so
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  Speaker 2: that they can take a look at that. It sounds
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  Speaker 2: like you've got some new territory opened up to you
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  Speaker 2: there as well, So y'all kind of got a little
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  Speaker 2: bit excitement going there. Tyler and I just got back
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  Speaker 2: from a little bit of a trip but haven't got
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  Speaker 2: to do any white tail hunt yet. I think our
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  Speaker 2: first white tail hunt's going to be at the end
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  Speaker 2: of September, and we're pretty stoked for that. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: that's like one of my favorite times of the year
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  Speaker 2: to hunt. Not everywhere has a season opened, but it's
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: like you still have that summer pattern going and those
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: deer are just so predictable. So I'm pretty excited about
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  Speaker 2: the white tail season.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I think that we're all slated for something good to
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  Speaker 2: happen now in what amounts who knows, right, Because like
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  Speaker 2: you said, the interesting thing about deer is that no
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: matter how many variables you think you control, the deer
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  Speaker 2: still do what they want to do. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's why we're able to talk to four people around
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  Speaker 2: the country every week and get you know, interesting takes
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  Speaker 2: because Tyler and I were talking about it well ago, man.
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  Speaker 3: The neat thing about whitetail is they're all different.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: You know, like you can look at a mule deer
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: that is a big one, but it looks like all
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: the other big ones usually you know, it's a four
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: by four that has a big old frame. Or you
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: look at an elk, you know, like a six or
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: six is a big one, and they're awesome and they're
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite creatures.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: But whitetail are so unique.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: You know, Tyler's got a bunch of deer on the
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: wall right now that we're looking at, and not on
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: one of them looks like the other one. And they
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: come from all over the country. There's so many different
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: hunting opportunities for them in so many different seasons that
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: stretch from you know, July into February, right, And that's
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: really what makes this thing feel like a big old campfire,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: right because we're all doing this kind of our unique
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: way in different parts of the country. But we're all
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: hunting the same critter and it makes things very exciting.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: And it's next to college football this time of year.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: It's the best dang thing out there.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Golley Man Sparty must have had a good first week.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: It was okay, but I'm still I'm still I'm still
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: hyped about it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: It was you know, there's something to be this.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Iired from the Spartans this year, but I'm maintaining hope
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: for mediocrity.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: We'll be They're not sitting in you know, prime territory,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: if you know what I mean.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: So, no, not this year, but we'll good bye on
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: season one season.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, So how many how many de are you gonna
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: shoot this year? How many bucks?
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Dude, two is probably realistic. You know, I'd be really
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: I'd be happy if I can get two good ones
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: on the ground. I could shoot up to four. I
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: think I've got four up to I think five buck
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: takes probably when it's all said and done, But being realistic,
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: two would be pretty solid, certainly possible more, but well,
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to manage my expectations and say two
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: across all those trips at all at least happen.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: That's the most conservative thing I've heard you say.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: More. You're rubbing off on the t.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna kill five, Mark, not to try to
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: up you, but I just doing my optimistic thing this year.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta do it because if I'm gonna
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: hang out with KC, you know, just try it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: You can't do anything, but Mark, I think you're gonna
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: con Moordan that just so you know, but I appreciate
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: your conservatism there, and you're gonna have an awesome season.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Tyler, five is a good number. That's a good over,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: a nunder. That's what number I was in high school?
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: You guys, you guys fling them like I believe you're
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: gonna make it that.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you shoot at shoot at might be like twelve,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: you know, So it's a numbers game, that's right, man,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: you have enough airs in the air. One I'm gonna
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: land here or later. It's just joking, everybody, just joking.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: But if you did listen to Mark's podcast recently, we
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: did say Tyler and I both are confident at fifty
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: yards in a certain situation. So you know that's not
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: for everyone and not every not every fifty yard opportunity
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: is one you should take, but you know, under the
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: right conditions. I think I put my over and under
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: at six. Being an alchemist, I am let's go. We
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: have a couple more draws to come out still, it's
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: maybe might help out with some tag allocation there and Florida. Yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: but uh man, I think that it is. I shot
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: five last year, and I'm not trying to I'm not
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: trying to brag because the last one is onber November eighth,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and then I hunted like two months after that didn't
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: kill one, so it was kind of front loaded. I'd
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: like to spread them out a little bit more this year.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: And uh yeah, I believe in you, Casey. I gotta say,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: like I I go back to defend my prediction.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Two of like my big films.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: That I'm doing this year aren't even me hunting. It's
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: me mentoring other people. So I'm actually like not even
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: going to be with the trigger for a lot of
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: the season of parts. So I'm actively handicapping myself, keeping
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: me from being at the same level as you, Casey.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: So I want to make sure I know what you're
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: thinking in the back of your mind. You're saying that
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: five six bucks, and you're getting taller and taller and taller.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Uh so I just got to make sure you remember
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: or that if I weren't mentoring, it'd.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Be right up the six seventh.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can count those.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: So let's let's go with your since you are the
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: fresh maker, mister minto himself, are you? So if you
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: count those, let's just say how many bucks are you
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: going to be at the helm for or the trigger?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: My mentor shoot does a lot of times, that's that's true.
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think the the
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: two new hunters I'm with, I think one of the
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: two will shoot a deer during the early October hunt
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: I'm doing with them, and then my dad.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: I'm guiding my dad basically trying to help him get
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: a deer at the end of October, and I'm feeling
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: really good about the stuff we've done to have that
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: ready for him.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: So so yeah, I think.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: We'll get two more across that, and then I am
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: doing actually more mentor hunts in December, and I'm sure
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: we're gonna kill a dough or two during that thing,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: so you know, and.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: If we're including does, I'm going to kill at least
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: two to four dos.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: So let's give me my two bucks, my four does,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: and my three mentees. So now we're talking nine. So
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: I'm claiming credit for nine this year.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Let's go to I'm all about it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: So yeah, there we go.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, so guiding your dad, what kind of fee you're
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: getting for that or is that just uh, that's.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Just like I'll get a better Christmas present maybe this.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Year, probably a fly rod or something.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the basic good ask.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: For I hear the White River fly rods are the
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: way to go, man. I don't know if you've ever
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: seen that ticket. Yeah, just check them out.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I will.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: It's it's good stuff anyway. This week, so we're going
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: to talk to you, uh and get some reports from
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: you throughout the season from different states. So I'm pretty
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: excited about that because you obviously have a lot of
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: different things going on this year, and you're gonna see
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of deer hunting, a lot of deer, a
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: lot of deer woods. But this week, uh, in particular,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: there's only so many states open. So we've got Alex
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: comstock from North Dakota. Mark has them from South Carolina,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: which is a muggy place to be right now. I'm sure. Uh,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Chad Rye from Tennessee and Reed Struggle from Kentucky a
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: good buddy of ours. So uh, that's kind of what
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: we're going to look at this week, and we're gonna
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: switch it around and get some different reports next week.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: You'll be moving pretty quick into different states. So I'm
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: really looking forward being that I'm not I don't have
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: an early season or at early September hunt this year
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: for white tails, and really it's going to be making
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: me itch, if you know what I.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Mean, I do, You're going to be You're gonna be
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: struggling these next couple of weeks while you're hearing all
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: this deer hunside.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I already feel bad that I'm not out.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: There for like that September one. I can't imagine having
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: to wait till the end of the one.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Well, next year, we're taking you, no matter what. It
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: sounds like a plan. I'm excited.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, cool, dude.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Well, let's hear the reports from the guys around the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: country and Mark, we'll talk to you in a couple
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of weeks.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Sounds good.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: On the phone, I've got Mark Haslam. He is in
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: South Carolina. I've been hunting some deer mark what's happening, dude?
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: Now much just just went through a hurricane. So that's
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: past and I'm back in the woods trying to get
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: over some Bucks.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: That's cool.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Does that hurricane effect kind of just what goes on
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: normally there? Like, is that going to change the way
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to react?
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: What it did was it It pretty.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Much came through all day yesterday and so the day before,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: they were the evening before, in the morning of in
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: the morning after, they were hunker down pretty tight. So
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: I'm hoping that these next couple of days we've got
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: some cool attempts that should be out feeding pretty hard.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. So what have you been doing to Target?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: But y'all have a really early season, right, so you've
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: been hunting for a little while, that's right.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: We opened in the lower half South Carolina August fifteenth,
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: and this Bucks only, so we have to we legally
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: have to hart target Bucks this time of year until
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: September fifteenth. So what I'm doing is either king king
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: in on destination food sources in the evenings, I'll get
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: close to them, not on them, but just a little
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: bit off trying to catch them, trying to cut them
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: off in the mornings.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I will.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Clam usually right outside of some bedding and trying to
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: catch them coming back into bed.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Are there any native or natural at least food sources
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: that you're can in on it all right now?
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: We we've we've gotten so much rain in the south
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: this summer that uh, and it's it's still rolling through
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: with this hurricane. So really, any if someone has any
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: kind of early successional growth, you know, rag weed, uh, briars,
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: black bears, any anything like that, just walk through it,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: take a look at it and see if it's any
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: kind of you know, snippers there with any kind of brow. So, yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: it's uh, the via right now, they are absolutely hitting ag.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: But a lot of our corn is being harvested right now.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: So if if if they were going to corny, they're
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: probably shifting over to peanuts or soybeans like that.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, So, and I'm guessing some of that early successional
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: growth there's going to be probably betting in those areas too,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: some huh, So I would I would suppose since you
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: said you're hunting mornings near betting, you're kind of you're
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: kind of catching them maybe browsing before they get back
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: to bed and then close to bed there are you
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: able to pretty consistently get in before they're in those
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: areas in the morning.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm trying to get in and get
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: set up, like thirty forty five minutes before first light.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: But what I found is that a lot of time
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: Bucks they will linger a little bit longer rather than
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: like go groups this time of the year do groups.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: So a lot of times be the first back into
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: bed and bucks will kind of linger around. But if
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: you have some some thin and open pines or some
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: timber that's been burned or has some early successional growth,
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: you've got for them to kind of linger through, you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: finish up, finish up browsing before they go back to bed.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: If you've got some stands that are wide open with
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: very little and you can just kind of see right
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: through it, they're gonna be probably starting through those pretty quickly.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: It last light, gotcha.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So with the hurricane moving through in Velvet starting to
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: come off around the country. Uh, on a scale of
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: one to ten, what do you predict buck movement to
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: be like over the next week.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: I think it's gonna probably remain how it has been
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: about maybe a six or seven, you know, not really
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: they're still in that summer yeah, I mean they're still
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: in that summer pattern of just bedding and eating, and
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: that's really all they're doing. Every day on my on
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: my cell cams, I'm getting like a.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: New buck every day.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: That's us shut us velvet.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: So we're probably we're definitely more than half half our
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: bucks have been shed shed a velvet. So there's still
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: with some peered up in battler groups, and pretty soon
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: they're gonna start shifting into that next you know, pre
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: right phase.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exciting time of year, man, delvit comes off. You
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: actually know what you got and I can look forward
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: to some good days to come.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Mark.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: We thanks, thank you for the report, dude, absolutely thanks
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: for having me on.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Awesome.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: All right on the phone now, I've got Chad Rice
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: from Cruiser Saddles. Chad, what's been going on?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: Oh, not a lot, man, Just trying to stay in
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: some ac and beat this heat in Phennessee right now.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. See, yeah, it's hot, but you know, ain't Texas
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: hot or nothing down there. We know what it's like
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: up there. I mean, it's y'all got that y'all got
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: that dry heat.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: We got that wet steam heat.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like we're closer than golfs
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: than y'all are, but who knows.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: The it is dry right now. I can tell you that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't walk with it kicking up a
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: dust storm where we're at. We need rain bad, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I know it. Man. So you've been out hunting a
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: little bit. You guys have really early season, or at
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: least it starts pretty early and have a chance to
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: get velvet. In fact, one of our buddies, Hunter went
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: up there and made a video with you last year
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: on a velvet buck. But you've been out doing the thing. Man,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: What have you been keen on on what you've been seeing?
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Man, So Tennessee's got an early velvet seasons just
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: three days long there. It was last weekend and unfortunately
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: we had a heat wave and the average temp all
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: weekend was probably like between ninety five.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And one hundred degrees. So that's hot.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we hunted. Me and the guys in
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: the shop there. We hunted all weekend and not much
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: to speak for. It was just, you know, super hot.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: We were having deer on camera the week before and
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: then this heat wave came.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Through and pretty much shut them down.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Man, So were they still showing because you've been sending
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: me those pictures. Have they been showing up like after
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: dark now or did they just change their patterns or
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: what do you think?
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: You know, I feel like they just changed their patterns.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: You know, where we were.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: Hunting them at and where we're getting them on camera
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: was on top of these ridges and stuff, and there's
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: not much water up here, and we're pretty close to
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: the lake where we're hunting. So I feel like they
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: dropped down in these cool draws and kind of hung
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: out by some water.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: So if you were gonna so target Bucks like right now,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: would you still say like water is the key?
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I would say water is a big factor right now.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: For sure. It is.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: Like I said, it's super hot, it's cool to off
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: since last weekend, but it's still average like eighty five
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: to ninety degree days.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: So water I think is a big factor right now. Yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: So what do you think.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Buck movement looks like going forward for like the next
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: week and we're looking at still more of that just
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: you know, not time movement waiting on some cooler camps.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, man, from what I'm seeing on camera, we're getting
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: a lot of nocturnal movement, a lot of bucks moving
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: that night. And you know, we don't we can't hunt
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: again until the end of September. But you know, if
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: you're in Kentucky or anywhere else that opens early, I
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: would I would definitely say water, try to try to
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: maybe get close to bedding, and.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's your best bet.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I think right now, what do you think the movement
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: is on a scale of one to ten for bucks.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: M probably probably around a five, I would say, I wouldn't.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I would say it's.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Even lower during the day, maybe early morning hours, late evening.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: They're still gonna move a little bit. But uh, you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: like I said, movement on our cameras has been it's
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: definitely slowed down quite a bit.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you a good cold front this time
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: of year and do a lot, But if you don't
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: get that, man, it's uh, it can be a tough
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: time of year, you know, so absolutely, you know, depending
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: on where you're at in the country and what hurricanes
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: are happening or whatever else. That's kind of the main
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the main thing that can adjust your climate. And make
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: for a better hunt. So, uh, Chad, I appreciate your friendship.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you doing this with us this week, and
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: hopefully we'll get you back on when the rut is
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: kicking or something like that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: Again, absolutely, boys, I appreciate it as always.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: All right, now on the phone, I've got Red Struggle.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: He's been out in Kentucky doing a little hunting public land.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Got some private land stuff going to I guess in
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the area. Man, what has been going on?
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: How's it going, y'all? It's uh, it's hot, it's hot,
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: and uh, we're waiting on we're waiting on a card fronts.
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: That warm weather from down south has made it up somewhere.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been slipping around. Wait, we've been sending it
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: y'all's way all summer. I don't know why it hasn't left,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: but you know, maybe it's just like you know, it's
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: like a fire man. You know. Once the hotter it gets,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: the more you can feel it from distance, you know.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: So that's what you are getting right now as from Yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: so you've you did some hunting this weekend in Kentucky? Man,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: what was it like?
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: Or so the opener partnered up with a buddy. We
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: decided for some reason to go a mile in on
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: public into a semi new area. We knew it from
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: turkey hunting, but uh, didn't have much luck. It's it's
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: it's been warm. So opener was on Saturday. Thursday, we
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: had a south wind roll in bringing warm weather. The
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: wind switched to an east Friday, which would have been
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: awesome to hunt, but Saturday it was hot south when
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: not much going on, real humid, you know, high of
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: in the mid eighties that day. Low in this you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: mid sixties in the morning, which was nice, but it
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: wound up quick, so had no luck there and had deer.
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: We blew one out early. You know, this time of
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: year is so.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Tough on that morning hunt. So that's uh, it's.
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: Kind of what we ran into on the public.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what are you actually targeting? You you trying to
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: go in and find some food sources or are you
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: going to bed in areas?
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Like why'd you go that far into the woods?
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: So the goal was actually on that area to get
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: close to private. There's a couple of ridgetops up there
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: and we had water just basically on the other side
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: of the ridge from us. So we're trying to get
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: them gone from the private seat. Hit some ag, hit
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: that water source, go to bed, and I think we
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: kind of bumped some out getting in there early because
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: that one frock came came in. But they're on the
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: acorn started dropping. They're not raining yet.
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: I haven't found any you know hot real hot oaks,
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: one of those Warren Womac you know feed trees, but
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: we are looking for them because that's there.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: They're going to be on those acuns.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Here for sure. So you know, you as far as
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: like what your the patterns you're hunting right now and
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: what you're going to be going in hunting the future.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Is there going to be a change here like in
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: the next week as to what you're gonna be hunting
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: over or is it the same? Yeah?
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: So similar On the private, things change a little bit.
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: We are allowed to have the mineral sites and feed
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: in Kentucky, So on my private I've got some feed
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: out and uh on my cameras. When we have those
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: north wind days, I've got my cameras lighting up quite
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: a bit. I actually went in hunted the haunted the
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: private the next day on a hard south wind and it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: It was tough.
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: It ended up kind of being the slack wind. There
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: was not much going on at all. Thermals were all.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: It was just swirly.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: It was no good.
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: You know, I saw a young bachelor group on the
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: way out. You know, they're still hanging around. But I've
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: got some deer and hardhorn already on camera, have some
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: in velvet. It seems the more mature bucks are starting
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: to split out of their bachelor groups. But my target
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: going forward is still gonna be based around ag and
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: trying to find a hot feed tree, because that's you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: I think where those mature bucks are gonna be.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, that's sounds like an encouraging week coming up.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: So that's good.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: If you had to predict the buck movement on a
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: scale of one to ten for the upcoming week, what
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: would you give it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So Wednesday, I've got a nice thunderstorm afternoon coming.
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: It's gonna switch to a north wind. We're dropping down
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: into degrees. It's gonna get down to the seventies. We've
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: got some knots in the fifties coming up this weekend,
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: big north wind. So I think this upcoming weekend is
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: going to be killer Friday, Saturday, Sunday is gonna be
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: really good. I would say movement wise, it's gonna be
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: you know, probably like a six or seven. Just because
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: of that switch we're going from the south wind hot
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: it's gonna change. I think, really it's gonna be pretty good.
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: I got a high hope for this weekend.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Man, September cold fronts can be deadly. Man.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I think I've seen in the past where you know,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: people have really done well on those things. So that's
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: that's a hopeful and optimistic prediction there, man. And I'm
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: very glad that you, uh you gave it to us.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I appreciate your time today read and uh, I hope
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: you have a killer week next week, man, of course.
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: Appreciate y'all. Hopefully we'll get one on the get one
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: on the ground. I'm trying to kill my first year
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: with a traditional bow, all right, So we're we're we're
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: getting after any of them. They all better duck fast,
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: you know.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: But we are, we are.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: It should be good, so I appreciate it. Good providence,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: young man. All right on the phone, now, I've got
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Alex Comstock from Whitetail DNA. What's going on, man, how
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: much are you guys doing? Doing pretty good? It's a
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: it's a fairly cool day here. It might even be
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: hotter where you're at than it is here in Texas.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Today we've got some rain and a cool a little
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: cool front. So ninety three here, what are you looking at?
• 36:22
  Speaker 11: Oh you might have us beat today. We're at eighty
• 36:25
  Speaker 11: eight right now. But it's cooler today than it's been
• 36:27
  Speaker 11: the last handful of days.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well that's cool man. So with h with
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the last few days being hot and then now a
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: colder day, what's what's the movement been like? Yeah, so
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: far it's been pretty bad.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: I'd give it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 11: I don't know, like a's three out of ten, it's
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: been h. We've had quite a few guys in camp,
• 36:48
  Speaker 11: so you've been able to cover quite a few different areas,
• 36:51
  Speaker 11: and we're spread out from probably the furthest furthert people
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: away from each other, probably an hour and a half away,
• 36:58
  Speaker 11: Like we're covering ground. But we had one guy killed
• 37:02
  Speaker 11: last night, two people shot bucks, So I mean starting
• 37:04
  Speaker 11: to pick up a little bit.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Which is nice.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: That's cool man.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: So if you're hunting early season top patterns, does the
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: heat almost increase the efficiency on that, or would you
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: like to see the cooler weather come in.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: I mean, there's probably no world in which I prefer
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: one hundred degree temps. Yeah, I've taken the cooler temps
• 37:26
  Speaker 11: every day of the week. I mean, you know, it's funny.
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: Last year out here opening week, we had a huge
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: cold snap right at the beginning of season, and I
• 37:34
  Speaker 11: think it actually the movement kind of shut off. And
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: then this year we had a huge heat wave, and
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: I just wanted it to be consistent temperatures to keep
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: these bucks on their patterns. But I just can't seem
• 37:45
  Speaker 11: to catch your break with the weather, I guess.
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: So, do you have anything that you feel like is
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: kind of patterned right now?
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: You know, I've got one buck.
• 37:54
  Speaker 11: I mean, there's a couple bucks that we've got daylighting
• 37:58
  Speaker 11: every so often. The one buck probably a three or
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: four year old ten pointer that's daylighted three of the
• 38:05
  Speaker 11: last four nights in the last hour, and so he's
• 38:09
  Speaker 11: also been there a bunch in the middle of the night.
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: And so I'm hoping with the cold front that's upcoming
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: in the next couple of days here that he shows
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: up and I can can lays an arrow throw them.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: What kind of pattern is he on?
• 38:22
  Speaker 11: So he's coming out of a standing cornfield into the
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: edge of a of a bean field.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: With some oaks around, dropping a corns pretty much.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Oh that sounds picturesque, that does, man? That's that standing
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: corn is always tricky for me. Man, I don't. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: don't love being around it much because you have deer
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: that'll bet in it, and you have deer that'll feed
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: in it, and if there's a pivot there, they water
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: in it. So it can get real tricky sometimes to
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: figure out the movement patterns. You know, it's tough.
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: I mean, I had a one of my top shooters
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: after the other day and it's right along the edge
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: of a standing cornfield, and I had one deer I
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: could just hear slowly moving through the corn and I
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: just had that gut feeling of this, but never got
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: to see what deer was, never shown himself.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: That hurts.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: So when you're in North Dakota, the days are pretty
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: long still this time of year. What time do you
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: have to leave your stand to go play a complete eighteen?
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: And then what time do you have to be back
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: in your stand for the evening?
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Hunt? Well, we only did nine. Oh gotcha. There was
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: a little bit of seriousness that question.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's kind of funny that you're getting some golf, and
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that, but you know, in all seriousness, like
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you don't want to go to the stand and just
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: sweat your tail off all day. What time are you
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: getting in there for an evening hunt?
• 39:33
  Speaker 11: Yeah, we're not, like we're gonna leave today maybe four
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: four thirty. By the time we're in and setting ready
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: to rock, it's about five thirty and sunsets at like
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: eight fifteen. So it so we're getting I mean, most
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: of these deer, if they're hitting on camera in daylight,
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: it's typically in the last I mean, shoot fifteen to
• 39:51
  Speaker 11: twenty minutes.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: We really don't have I mean.
• 39:54
  Speaker 11: But in contrary, you know which kind of contradictions what
• 39:57
  Speaker 11: I'm saying, both guys at shot Bucks last night killed
• 40:00
  Speaker 11: or shot Bucks at like seven and seven fifteen, so
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: a full hour before sunset.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: So going forward with the weather change that just happened
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: or any other factors you may have, or are you
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: gonna focus on the same same patterns that have been
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: you've been seeing on cameras or in you're scouting or
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: are you gonna change things up.
• 40:22
  Speaker 11: We're gonna stick with it and just essentially hope that
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: uh this you know we're going from. It was one
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: hundred and like two yesterday, whereas tomorrow the highs I
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: think sixty four. So we're just gonna hope that that
• 40:33
  Speaker 11: gets those deer up moving a little bit earlier and
• 40:37
  Speaker 11: kind of hunt the scene patterns essentially.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Well that with that being said, if you're gonna rate
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the Butt movie going forward this week from a scale
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: of one to ten, what would it be.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give her.
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna give her a six.
• 40:50
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna I'm trying to get I'm trying to get
• 40:52
  Speaker 11: over a five, and uh if it's a six, I'm
• 40:56
  Speaker 11: gonna be a happy campus.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Put it that way.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Nice dude.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Well, hey, I know that you have a lot of
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: history up there in North Dakota and you kind of
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: got it figured out. So I'm rooting for you. I
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: hope you have a really good hunt this evening. Man, Hey,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Hopefully I'm hoping the same thing.
• 41:11
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• 41:13
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• 41:17
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• 41:30
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• 41:34
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• 41:38
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• 41:43
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• 41:46
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