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The Classic Metal Show LIVE! 11/22/25 (Full Show) · Classic Metal Show

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this is sammy pierre dewey from goat whore and you're watching
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cms tv i can't even
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imagine walking into a store to buy that like to buy the
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costume yeah or or you
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have it made you're having it made even worse yeah yeah uh yeah
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i need um i need
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the tail a little a little above the asshole please yeah it
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needs to flip up and
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SPEAKER_02: flip up and open
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It is your classic metal show right here on the classic metal
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show.com that,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: kicking off the show tonight,
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SPEAKER_02: we heard docking with a,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: a bonus track with almost over kind of apocalyptic.
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SPEAKER_02: And,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: just,
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SPEAKER_02: we just heard a Tesla there from the psychotic supper release with,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: Edison's medicine,
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a man out of time and a man who never has enough time to do
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everything he needs to
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SPEAKER_02: do.
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SPEAKER_02: My good friend and partner, Chris Aiken.
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SPEAKER_02: What's going on there, Chris?
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SPEAKER_02: We're back again.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a fast, fast week.
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SPEAKER_02: It went very quickly,
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but we're here to entertain the folks once again on a
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Thanksgiving weekend Eve,
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SPEAKER_02: I guess.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess it's Thanksgiving this week, I presume.
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SPEAKER_02: It happens about this time every year, doesn't it?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I see.
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I see you have us,
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uh,
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dressed up in,
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uh,
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camo,
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uh,
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podcasting broadcasting.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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it just i can hear you now they do because i had the wrong
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thing checked now they
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hear me damn it chris i know i stink what the hell i know hi
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friends i'm here
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SPEAKER_02: So hopefully you did all the pre-show stuff where you did the restart.
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SPEAKER_01: I did.
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SPEAKER_02: Rebooting and all that shit.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep, everything's done.
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SPEAKER_02: That's something I definitely do every week.
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I get up here,
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I reboot the router,
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restart all the machines,
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you know,
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get everything going.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So everything seems to be hunky-dory at the moment.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's good.
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yeah so uh yeah anyway it was a it was a fast week i didn't
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really communicate with
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you much aside from a a couple of texts right you know so uh
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how was your week mr
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SPEAKER_02: aiken what what what eventful things happened in your world
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nothing nothing at all just work straight through just non-stop
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working every
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single day building websites building social media platforms
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building web stores
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SPEAKER_02: all of a sudden i'm busy again which is good i'm not complaining but
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but you know i i just the the lone thing that i did of any
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interest at all was
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based on your recommendation i went and i watched the eddie
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murphy documentary okay
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that's the only thing that i did worth a this whole week and
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any thoughts um
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SPEAKER_02: I thought,
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SPEAKER_02: A,
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SPEAKER_02: I enjoyed it,
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SPEAKER_02: and B,
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Eddie Murphy is right there with probably Kinison for me at the
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very tippy top of
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SPEAKER_02: the ladder.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: That said...
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I thought that they let the movie star have a lot of leverage
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on the fact that his
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SPEAKER_02: last 30 years were bad.
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SPEAKER_02: They kept saying things about,
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SPEAKER_02: oh,
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SPEAKER_02: I love the way that you opened the door for black people with Norbit.
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SPEAKER_02: No, Norbit was terrible.
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SPEAKER_02: Vampire in Brooklyn was terrible.
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SPEAKER_02: Bowfinger was terrible.
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SPEAKER_02: And they kept saying,
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SPEAKER_02: well,
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SPEAKER_02: this movie showed that Eddie opened the door for black men to do this.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it didn't.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it did not.
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SPEAKER_02: First of all,
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SPEAKER_02: Richard Pryor,
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SPEAKER_02: and they even said it in the movie,
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SPEAKER_02: Richard Pryor had a whole career of movies before.
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SPEAKER_02: He did.
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SPEAKER_02: With, what's his name, Gene Wilder.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Gene Wilder.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: Richard Pryor opened all those doors,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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and they were just making excuses to try and hide the fact that
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these movies were
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SPEAKER_02: bad.
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SPEAKER_02: They were just bad.
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SPEAKER_02: But that all being said,
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it was kind of weird listening to him talk about how he was in
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that big empty
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SPEAKER_02: cavern of a house after his divorce,
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SPEAKER_02: wasn't it?
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: It was like, yeah, I feel real bad for you, Ed.
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SPEAKER_02: He's closing a silo roof on his, oh, it's cold in here.
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SPEAKER_02: I better close the roof.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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has this this thing that probably cost half a million dollars
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to put in his house
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right you know and he's like oh you know this was a very empty
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cold place no it
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SPEAKER_02: wasn't it really wasn't it was a 150 million dollar mansion
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SPEAKER_02: It's a gorgeous place, no matter who's in it.
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SPEAKER_02: Stop it.
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SPEAKER_02: But other than that, I did enjoy the documentary.
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SPEAKER_02: Didn't really learn a whole lot, I guess.
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I didn't really realize that he had bad blood with Saturday
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Night Live people for a while,
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but
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other than that i don't think i learned very much of anything
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did you yeah well his
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his his whole life and existence has been on public display you
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know so you know if
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you paid any attention to his career at all i mean you were
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probably aware of
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SPEAKER_02: probably most of the
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SPEAKER_02: you know, happenings in his life.
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SPEAKER_02: But I,
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SPEAKER_02: I found the,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: the first part of the documentary,
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SPEAKER_02: the most interesting,
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SPEAKER_02: just because it just,
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SPEAKER_02: you,
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SPEAKER_02: you forget how quickly his,
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SPEAKER_02: his star rose.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, in such a very, very small window.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: And how popular he became in, in a matter of five to seven years.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, is he the most successful black actor of all time?
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SPEAKER_02: Or is that Denzel?
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SPEAKER_02: Hard to say.
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I mean,
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you know,
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Eddie has been consistently working since the early 80s.
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SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, and in so many different...
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roles and formats you know so so you know i i from a from a
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standpoint of of
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conquering various roles from serious roles to funny roles to
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to animated roles to
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SPEAKER_02: you know he he's done them all sure
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: so you got to give the guy credit for everything he has accomplished,
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SPEAKER_02: whether you enjoyed all of his work or not.
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SPEAKER_02: But,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: obviously for us,
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SPEAKER_02: we discussed this before,
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SPEAKER_02: that his earliest work is our favorite.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, of course.
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SPEAKER_02: You know.
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SPEAKER_02: Dude,
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were you bummed watching this thing when he basically blew off
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what he had said a
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SPEAKER_02: year ago about going back and doing comedy?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I was bummed when he was like, yeah, I've already done that.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't need to do that.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't have nothing to say.
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SPEAKER_02: But would he be funny though?
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SPEAKER_02: Even if he went back and did that, do you think he'd be funny?
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SPEAKER_02: That's the million-dollar question, isn't it?
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SPEAKER_02: He's been very wealthy for a long time.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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I just think he'd be very careful about what he would say
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because when he did Raw
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SPEAKER_02: and what was the other one?
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delirious hilarious yeah when he did those two he had nothing
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to lose at that point
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true you know now he might go all bill burr now yeah that's
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that's you you took the
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words right out of my mouth i was actually just gonna say that
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he'd be like bill
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SPEAKER_02: burr yeah you know not funny just
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SPEAKER_02: Not funny at all.
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SPEAKER_02: He'd just do observational humor.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, very safe.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just safe, easy.
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SPEAKER_02: Same thing with Chris Rock.
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SPEAKER_02: Chris Rock, you know, very funny, very edgy.
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SPEAKER_02: Last couple of stand-ups, eh, not so much.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to be honest.
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SPEAKER_02: I think the same about Chappelle.
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SPEAKER_02: I agree.
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SPEAKER_02: Completely agree.
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SPEAKER_02: Chappelle, everybody worships him as, like, the guy now, and...
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SPEAKER_02: He hasn't done anything funny for me since the Chappelle show.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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So,
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you know,
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and his style of quote-unquote stand-up comedy these days is
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more commentary.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not really funny.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just commentary.
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SPEAKER_02: Social commentary is what he does,
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SPEAKER_02: and it's not,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: it might be insightful and things in some areas,
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SPEAKER_02: but it's not funny.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't find anything funny.
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SPEAKER_02: I watched the last couple and I was just like, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Not some, not so much, you know, same here.
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SPEAKER_02: So when you're,
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SPEAKER_02: when you're young and hungry and,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: trying to make something of yourself,
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SPEAKER_02: that's,
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SPEAKER_02: that's when you put it all out there.
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But once you made it to the top,
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you know,
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what,
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what else are you going to do?
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SPEAKER_02: That's going to be edgy.
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SPEAKER_02: You're funny.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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And once you get rich,
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your stories stop being relatable to regular people.
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SPEAKER_02: True.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: that's the other thing is,
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SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: what's Eddie Murphy going to talk about that we can relate to?
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SPEAKER_02: Well,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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I was at the Lamborghini place and I couldn't decide between
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the sky blue and the
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SPEAKER_02: jet black.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like, yeah, okay, Ed, I can relate to that.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: As I sit here trying to save up to get brakes for my car.
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SPEAKER_02: That's too funny.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, how did the shows go this week?
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SPEAKER_02: The Chris Aiken Presents and your Seth Williams show.
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SPEAKER_02: How did those go?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, there was no cap this week.
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SPEAKER_02: Eric was recording on the new Steven Piercy record.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: He was away from home yesterday or Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_02: I believe he did his show, Eric Ferentino's Unleashed, last night.
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um as far as seth show it happened it happened it came it went
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you led the charge
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as usual yeah i guess i don't know i just did it i don't even
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remember what we
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SPEAKER_02: talked about quite honestly i really don't yeah you know so they happened
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get you.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I, I took a trip down to, uh, St.
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Louis,
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uh,
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with,
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with the docking boys and hung out with Don and John and Chris
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and DJ and Troy.
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And you know,
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the,
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the whole,
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the whole group was there as it was the last show of the year.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: it was,
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SPEAKER_02: it was good to get together,
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SPEAKER_02: but you know,
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SPEAKER_02: who came to the show who I haven't seen,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: in 10 years.
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SPEAKER_02: Who's that?
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SPEAKER_02: Our good friend, Greg from WMMT.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, no kidding.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: He made the trip up and, uh, it was very strange because on my way to St.
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SPEAKER_02: Louis, Nathan from Kentucky hit me up and, uh,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, he says, I I'm, he, he's a writer.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, Nathan writes for newspaper outlets and things like that.
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And he,
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he was doing a story that is relatable to the upcoming
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Thanksgiving holiday.
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And he wanted my opinion on,
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um,
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something and I,
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and I'll bring that up here in a second.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I'll just tell you what it was.
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He called me and he said,
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Hey,
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are you familiar with this tradition of,
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um,
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radio stations playing alice's restaurant on thanksgiving oh
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yeah yeah yeah are you
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familiar with that i am yeah i never heard of that before 98
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has been doing it for
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15 20 years yeah well i guess i guess it kind of started in new
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york or something
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SPEAKER_02: okay it kind of like gravitated
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SPEAKER_02: over to other radio stations, and they started doing it.
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I think that Mark Gorman over at WMMS,
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he kind of introduced that to doing it on MMS then.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess they do it now or something, or they have done it.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not really sure, to be honest with you.
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SPEAKER_02: But I wasn't familiar with this.
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I guess some commercial radio stations around the country still
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will do this on
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SPEAKER_02: Thanksgiving for...
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you know whatever yeah yeah i know 98.5 has done it for years
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where they play that
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horrendous song it's like who wants to hear that for 20 20
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hours yeah so uh he was
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just asking me if if i had an opinion or a thought on it and i
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was just like i
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wasn't aware anybody did that yeah you know i'd never heard
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about it you know i
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SPEAKER_02: never heard it uh you know and
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stay tuned folks on thanksgiving a special thanksgiving
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presentation of alice's
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restaurant i said oh i gotta tune in for that 24 street hours
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of alice's goodness
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yeah it's like i gotta i gotta tune in for that horrible you
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know so we we started
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SPEAKER_02: chit chatting it up a little bit and uh
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i i was asking him i said i said hey have you ever uh are you
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still in contact with
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psycho postman okay yeah he goes he hasn't heard from him in a
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long time he said he
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still has his number so he was going to hit him up and see if
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he's still alive and
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SPEAKER_02: kicking or
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And then he brought up Greg from WMMT because Nathan is from
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down in the Kentucky area.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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And his name came up,
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and we were just chit-chatting it up about that a little bit.
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SPEAKER_02: And so then, uh, you know, when I was in St.
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SPEAKER_02: Louis,
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SPEAKER_02: me and Don were talking and,
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SPEAKER_02: and putting together the guest list and stuff,
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SPEAKER_02: he goes,
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SPEAKER_02: yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: put,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: put Greg Napier on the list.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, Greg, I said, I was just talking about him today.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, it was just so just coincidental, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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So I guess Greg has had some health-related issues that he was
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dealing with,
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SPEAKER_02: but he's doing much better now.
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SPEAKER_02: Good.
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SPEAKER_02: So it was good to see him, and I walked in.
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I knew he was there,
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and he was in the dressing room when Don and I came down from
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SPEAKER_02: from the rooms.
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SPEAKER_02: And,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: I walk in and I,
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SPEAKER_02: I walked in and looked at him and he's,
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SPEAKER_02: he looks at me and he goes,
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SPEAKER_02: you probably don't remember me,
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SPEAKER_02: do you?
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SPEAKER_02: I said, Greg, how in the fuck could I ever forget you?
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SPEAKER_02: He didn't think I knew who he was,
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SPEAKER_02: which was really funny,
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SPEAKER_02: but you know,
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SPEAKER_02: he,
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SPEAKER_02: um,
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SPEAKER_02: we chatted it up for a few minutes and stuff,
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SPEAKER_02: but it was,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: nice to catch up with him.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: A long time.
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so he's still doing his show or what does he know i mean they
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they booted him off
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that station that wmmt about boy it's been probably close to 10
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years ago already
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okay you know and then he moved on to another station and i
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don't know what
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happened there but i don't think he's doing anything any of
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that anymore so okay so
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SPEAKER_02: but anyway it was nice catching up with him and then uh
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SPEAKER_02: I caught up with Andrew Freeman.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: He was singing for Lynch Mob.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: And, of course, I caught up with George.
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SPEAKER_02: I chit-chatted it up with George.
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SPEAKER_02: George was like, what's with everybody dying recently?
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SPEAKER_02: What is with all this death?
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SPEAKER_02: He says, I don't approve of this at all.
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So me and George chatted it up for a few minutes,
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and then I caught up with Scott Coogan.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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who was uh obviously playing with uh ace fraley yeah he passed
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away and um you know
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he chatted it up a little bit about attending the funeral and
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gene and gene and
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paul and and peter chris were all there at the funeral and he
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said that uh you know
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that they paid tribute to to ace you know and it was kind of
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cool seeing them he
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SPEAKER_02: says but he said peter chris really was taking it very very hard
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SPEAKER_02: You know, extremely hard.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, they were still boys, though, weren't they?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think so.
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SPEAKER_02: He said they were very close.
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SPEAKER_02: He said they were still very close.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so caught up with Scott and see.
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SPEAKER_02: The fans was a really good crowd.
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SPEAKER_02: I think this place holds about 900.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
18:00
And at Showtime,
18:03
they had,
18:05
well,
18:05
the day before Showtime,
18:06
they had 800 presale already.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's good.
18:09
so it was a nice packed house and then uh like i said lynch mob
18:14
played um george
18:16
came out and did his three songs at the end like he'd been
18:20
doing and sure i wrapped
18:22
up the show and you know it was just a nice hang with everybody
18:25
that's cool you
18:26
know chatting it up with uh john as as i sent you a couple
18:30
texts you know what he
18:31
SPEAKER_02: asked for you to do so sure
18:34
And then I talked to Chris McCarvel and he's going to work up
18:38
some schemes for the
18:41
SPEAKER_02: CMS 30th anniversary special edition shirt.
18:46
okay as he does you know graphic arts you know he does all that
18:50
he does all the
18:51
dock and merch and that's basically what his business is is
18:55
graphic arts and
18:56
t-shirts so he's gonna work up uh something to modify the logo
19:02
to uh you know
19:03
SPEAKER_02: incorporate 30 30 years very cool so
19:08
got that got that working so uh overall nice uh good trip
19:13
weather was uh excellent
19:14
it was like close to 60 you know and um you know nice nice hang
19:21
sure and uh so i
19:23
saw don off to the airport this morning at 10 and then i hit
19:27
the road and i got
19:28
SPEAKER_02: home about three myself so wow
19:31
SPEAKER_02: So fun times.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no kidding.
19:34
SPEAKER_01: You and Ed driving, you love the driving, don't you?
19:36
SPEAKER_01: It's all right.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you just throw the Spotify on and let it play random tunes.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, before you know it, you're where you got to be.
19:46
SPEAKER_02: I wish I could do that.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: I just sit there and stare at the speedometer.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: All right.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: 78 more miles.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: 61 more.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: Right.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, this casino, this was River City Casino.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: It was a Vegas, very Vegas-style casino.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: You know, it was very grand with all the gold and, you know,
20:15
accents and the actual casino and the building and everything
20:21
was just a very,
20:22
SPEAKER_02: very nice casino.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how old the place is.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: It seems fairly new.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: I can understand why people aren't going to Vegas anymore.
20:33
SPEAKER_02: With all these
20:35
SPEAKER_02: state-run gambling, you know, casinos.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: In each state.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: And they're more luxurious as they build more of them.
20:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, what's the point on going to expensive Las Vegas?
20:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and travel and hotels and all that other shit.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
20:50
SPEAKER_02: Right in your own town.
20:51
SPEAKER_02: So...
20:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
20:53
SPEAKER_02: so it was a good trip down,
20:55
SPEAKER_02: good trip back,
20:57
SPEAKER_02: nice accommodations,
20:58
SPEAKER_02: nice hanging out with everybody.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: That's good.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: And, of course, Don, he asked about you, as always.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's always worried about me.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: Is he going to die yet?
21:08
SPEAKER_02: It's like, how's Chris?
21:10
SPEAKER_02: How's he doing?
21:11
SPEAKER_02: How's his health?
21:12
SPEAKER_02: Is he good?
21:13
SPEAKER_02: Is he dead yet?
21:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: He says he never called me, though.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: I did call.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: Oh, my God.
21:22
SPEAKER_02: So I said, I'll pass the message along.
21:26
SPEAKER_02: You know, he, not for nothing, but he does have my phone number, too.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: And I have called him multiple times.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:36
SPEAKER_02: And left messages for him to call me back.
21:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because he never answers his phone.
21:40
SPEAKER_02: Right, of course.
21:42
SPEAKER_02: I get you.
21:43
i get you but uh anyway um john john of course sends his best
21:49
yeah i gotta get with
21:50
john i was i was supposed to do some work with john on on
21:54
tuesday and tuesday
21:57
became you texting me and me remembering oh my god i forgot to
22:00
call john it really
22:03
SPEAKER_02: just this week has ran from me right it was like
22:07
SPEAKER_02: It was like, man, it just flew by this week.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: And I got all jacked up out of sync with sleeping and everything else.
22:16
I was doing the go to bed at four,
22:18
get up at noon,
22:19
you know,
22:20
that whole thing all week.
22:21
SPEAKER_02: So I was all fucked up.
22:23
SPEAKER_02: But it happens.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get you.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: But other than that,
22:29
SPEAKER_02: that's been the highlight of the week,
22:32
SPEAKER_02: I guess,
22:33
is being able to get away for a couple of days and hang out and
22:38
see some friends
22:39
SPEAKER_02: and just enjoy some tunes and
22:44
seeing the guys before the holiday and the next show is until
22:50
February at the Golden Nugget.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: That promoter that books them at the Golden Nugget,
22:57
SPEAKER_02: he just loves those guys because it's like every six months.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: He's already got them booked for February and September.
23:04
just he sees the he sees the money that comes in he's like i
23:10
gotta make this much
23:11
instead i make this much yeah i'll book it twice a year why not
23:14
here yep so uh yeah
23:18
SPEAKER_02: so we'll we'll see you know don is just kind of taking it you know uh
23:23
SPEAKER_02: A little,
23:23
SPEAKER_02: you know,
23:24
SPEAKER_02: one day at a time determining on how he wants to continue on because,
23:29
SPEAKER_02: uh,
23:29
SPEAKER_02: you know,
23:29
SPEAKER_02: he,
23:30
SPEAKER_02: because he keeps saying,
23:31
SPEAKER_02: well,
23:32
SPEAKER_02: this is it,
23:32
SPEAKER_02: this is it.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: And then I said, well, you got shows booked in February and September.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm, I'm probably just going to have maybe one show, two shows a month.
23:41
SPEAKER_02: I said, well, 12, 24 shows a year.
23:44
SPEAKER_02: That's, that's pretty good.
23:45
SPEAKER_02: At least to get you out of the house.
23:47
And yeah,
23:48
I saw he was in the news this week,
23:50
backtracking on the retirement again.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, it's everybody can't make up their mind.
23:56
They,
23:56
they speak off the top of their,
23:58
uh,
23:59
top of their mind at the moment.
24:02
And then when it really comes down to it,
24:04
it's just like,
24:04
ah,
24:04
you know what?
24:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm not really going to do that.
24:07
SPEAKER_02: Right.
24:07
SPEAKER_02: You know?
24:08
SPEAKER_02: So it's like George with his lynch mob, you know?
24:11
SPEAKER_02: Right.
24:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:12
SPEAKER_02: I just, yeah, I'm not going to retire lynch mob.
24:16
SPEAKER_02: What's the point in doing that?
24:17
SPEAKER_02: I still can play.
24:18
SPEAKER_02: People still want to see it, you know?
24:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:22
SPEAKER_02: I can still get booked.
24:23
SPEAKER_02: So why not?
24:24
SPEAKER_02: It's just funny.
24:25
SPEAKER_02: In one week, Don said, yeah, I changed my mind.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: And Lynch said, yeah, I lied.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: So now they're doing an EP or something.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Is that what's going on?
24:38
well they were kicking around some ideas that's all whether it
24:42
happens or not i
24:43
don't know i saw it reported in a couple of places that they're
24:47
they're planning an
24:48
ep with the well i don't i don't know if there's planning
24:51
involved it's just
24:52
kicking around some ideas right you know it's just like uh you
24:57
know i got i got a
24:58
couple of things on the you know some unfinished things and
25:02
george says he's got
25:03
SPEAKER_02: some ideas and
25:05
SPEAKER_02: You know,
25:05
SPEAKER_02: it got down to the,
25:07
SPEAKER_02: well,
25:07
SPEAKER_02: you know,
25:08
SPEAKER_02: maybe if we can collaborate on a couple of things,
25:11
SPEAKER_02: we can pick out,
25:12
SPEAKER_02: you know,
25:13
SPEAKER_02: three or four songs or something like that just for the diehards,
25:17
SPEAKER_02: you know?
25:18
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: So, I don't know.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: We'll see if that happens.
25:21
It just depends on logistics and what everybody's got going on
25:26
and whether it makes
25:27
SPEAKER_02: any sense or not.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: It'd be good for the fans.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that I have a ton of interest in it, but...
25:34
i mean that that last song that they did as as you know the the
25:38
pop most popular
25:40
lineup that was kind of just another day yeah it was like yeah
25:44
it was just another
25:45
song yeah it was just very you know mediocre at best yeah the
25:50
fire's long gone yeah
25:52
SPEAKER_02: exactly so well we'll see we'll see what happens in the new year sure
25:59
SPEAKER_02: So what else is happening?
26:00
SPEAKER_02: Anything else?
26:02
SPEAKER_02: Dude, it has been just a nothing week.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: Just all work and,
26:06
SPEAKER_02: you know,
26:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't know,
26:09
SPEAKER_02: getting ready to do not a damn thing for Thanksgiving.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: That's about it.
26:14
I'm going to be solo for Thanksgiving for the first time,
26:17
I think,
26:17
since I've been single.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because Kelly's got pneumonia, so I won't be there.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: My mom's going somewhere.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: She's traveling somewhere.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: And my kids are spending Thanksgiving with their mom.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: So it's like I'm all by my lonesome.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, sometimes I enjoy that.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: You don't know how much I'm looking forward to it.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:43
SPEAKER_02: I did that last year.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: You know,
26:45
SPEAKER_02: I,
26:45
SPEAKER_02: I could have gone somewhere I was invited to go,
26:48
SPEAKER_02: but I just thought,
26:49
SPEAKER_02: yeah,
26:49
SPEAKER_02: you know what?
26:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to stay home.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, and, uh, I may just do that this year too.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: I just don't, you know, just like, yeah, you know what?
26:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to enjoy the peace and quiet.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking that's what I'm doing,
27:02
SPEAKER_01: too,
27:03
SPEAKER_02: is just put them out the door,
27:06
SPEAKER_02: lay in bed,
27:07
SPEAKER_02: watch porn,
27:09
SPEAKER_02: eat some turkey.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Eat some turkey and watch porn.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: That's about it.
27:14
I won't know if it's turkey grease or,
27:16
you know,
27:17
other stuff on my fingers.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: Turkey grease or spooge.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: Some kind of grease.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: Some sort of excretion out of something.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: I get you.
27:32
Well,
27:33
I'm not,
27:34
like I said,
27:34
I don't have,
27:36
I'm not planning anything at all for this at all.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm just looking forward to the time off.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: Enjoying Wednesday through Sunday off.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
27:49
just hanging out and just relaxing and get my mind,
27:54
you know,
27:55
squared away.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Actually getting rest.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: Amazing concept, right?
28:01
SPEAKER_02: yeah, no kidding.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: So just be thankful for the,
28:05
SPEAKER_02: for the good year that,
28:06
SPEAKER_02: uh,
28:06
SPEAKER_02: that I've had and,
28:08
SPEAKER_02: um,
28:08
SPEAKER_02: you know,
28:09
SPEAKER_02: and enjoy the peace and quiet.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to,
28:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm,
28:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm probably just going to chill just because I have to,
28:17
SPEAKER_02: I have to go probably for a couple of days the next week to pinball PA.
28:21
We got new guys starting,
28:23
so I got to at least show up and train at least one day,
28:28
I guess.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: So,
28:30
So I anticipate going there at least one day next week or the
28:35
week after next week.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
28:37
So,
28:38
so did you hear from Jim Florentine about his experience there
28:41
at all?
28:42
SPEAKER_02: He just said he had a good time.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: He didn't really get into it too much.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: He didn't elaborate?
28:46
SPEAKER_02: Nah, he just was like, yeah, I had a lot of fun there, man.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: You have a great place.
28:51
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, thank you.
28:53
SPEAKER_02: You have a great place.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: You have a great place.
28:55
SPEAKER_02: Especially when it's full of furries.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I enjoyed playing the Galaga, the Dig Dug.
29:01
SPEAKER_02: It was great.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: It was great.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: What's with all these furries?
29:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: I thought the little animals were supposed to be in the games.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: What the hell is this?
29:16
yeah i was um i i tell you what i i've seen a couple of things
29:22
this this whole
29:23
furry phenomenon yeah which is just really bizarre and it's
29:28
just the just the uh
29:31
perversion of it you know people look at it as oh it's just
29:35
it's just cosplay it's
29:36
just cosplay but there's a there's a really seedier side to
29:40
that whole furry thing
29:42
SPEAKER_02: There's definitely a sexual undertone to it.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: There is a huge sexual undertone.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: And it's something,
29:48
SPEAKER_02: even me,
29:49
SPEAKER_02: the sickest,
29:50
SPEAKER_02: most vile human on this planet,
29:51
SPEAKER_02: I want nothing to do with even knowing what that's about.
29:55
SPEAKER_02: Right.
29:55
SPEAKER_02: I won't even watch that in, like, porn or nothing.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: I want nothing to do with that shit.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Just nothing.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: Well,
30:04
SPEAKER_02: apparently I don't know if you'd seen this or not when it,
30:07
SPEAKER_02: and what caught my,
30:08
SPEAKER_02: uh,
30:09
SPEAKER_02: ear,
30:10
SPEAKER_02: uh,
30:10
SPEAKER_02: they were reporting on the,
30:13
SPEAKER_02: the,
30:13
SPEAKER_02: uh,
30:13
SPEAKER_02: what do you want to call the,
30:15
SPEAKER_02: the similarities of the shooters,
30:18
SPEAKER_02: the,
30:18
SPEAKER_02: the,
30:18
SPEAKER_02: the kid that shot at president Trump.
30:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: And the guy who shot Charlie Kirk.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: Both of them involved with furries and sexual deviance.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: Not shocking.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's not that it's shocking.
30:36
It's just interesting that both shooters just happen to be
30:40
involved in that furry community.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a weird... I don't get the whole thing.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: I can't even imagine... And I guess this tells you where my brain is at.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: Yours is probably the same place.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: I can't even imagine walking into a store to buy that.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, to buy the costume.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or you have it made.
31:03
you're having it made even worse yeah yeah uh yeah i need um i
31:09
need the tail a
31:09
little a little above the asshole please yeah it needs to flip
31:14
up and flip up and
31:15
open right i need i need to come in for my furry fitting yeah
31:21
this head it's too
31:22
SPEAKER_02: big can you make it a little tighter
31:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:28
SPEAKER_02: And just the fact that they're, they have conventions and everything.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: That's another bizarre thing too.
31:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, our own Moogle was into the furry thing.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, he alerted us, too.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't think either one of us knew anything about it at that point.
31:47
SPEAKER_02: You're absolutely right.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: That was the first time we became aware of it.
31:51
And now we see that Moogle,
31:52
while he was a freak,
31:53
he wasn't alone in his freakiness.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: I think we always thought he was alone in his freakiness.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: He's very much not.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's the whole thing.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: It's...
32:05
SPEAKER_02: it appeals to loners,
32:08
SPEAKER_02: you know,
32:09
SPEAKER_02: they,
32:09
SPEAKER_02: they get into this kind of bizarre,
32:12
SPEAKER_02: uh,
32:12
SPEAKER_02: cosplay fantasy,
32:15
SPEAKER_02: something or other.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: And it's just, I don't know, man, it's just creepy.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: It's not, it's, it's weird.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: And, and your, your nephew is absolutely right.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: They love their litter boxes too.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:27
SPEAKER_02: Is that a thing too?
32:28
SPEAKER_02: That's a thing.
32:30
SPEAKER_02: Do they use the litter box?
32:33
SPEAKER_02: Do they?
32:33
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
32:34
SPEAKER_02: All right.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: That's the first I've heard of this.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: Depending on the party you go to.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: So they actually use the litter box.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
32:46
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
32:47
SPEAKER_02: Squat over a litter box and take a dump, I guess.
32:52
SPEAKER_02: In your business.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: Hike the tail up and squirt one out your fucking shit cutter.
33:01
wow all right well there you go there's another twist i was not
33:04
aware of but you
33:06
know it's not again not surprising or shocking in any way nor
33:10
do i want to even
33:11
know of this that's the worst part is i don't want to know this
33:15
yeah i really don't
33:17
SPEAKER_02: want to have that knowledge in my head
33:21
SPEAKER_02: Tune in, friends.
33:22
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33:26
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33:27
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33:31
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33:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, they were, they invaded your pinball place.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: I know you said you don't give a shit.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: I just want the money.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: Correct.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: It's like,
33:46
SPEAKER_02: well,
33:46
SPEAKER_02: I hope you,
33:48
SPEAKER_02: and I hope you had plenty of Purell over there that you were,
33:52
SPEAKER_02: you were cleaning off the jizz stained machines.
33:54
SPEAKER_02: Hey, we do have plenty of Purell over there.
33:57
B I'm positive that they made them keep it to the most calm
34:03
level of furry.
34:04
SPEAKER_02: Right.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: You know,
34:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm positive that if anybody started doing anything weird,
34:09
SPEAKER_02: they got thrown right the fuck out.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Right.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: I didn't hear any reports of that.
34:14
I can guarantee you if something weird would have happened,
34:17
I would have heard about it.
34:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:20
So I'm assuming nothing weird,
34:22
just a bunch of guys in furry costumes playing pinball.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: Right.
34:28
SPEAKER_02: So that's weird.
34:29
As far as the makeup of the demographic of the furries,
34:35
did you know if it was mostly guys?
34:39
SPEAKER_02: It's mostly foxes with a couple of bears.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: I have no.
34:47
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I did not ask any questions.
34:49
SPEAKER_02: I asked one question.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: How much?
34:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: How much was the only question?
34:55
SPEAKER_02: When I heard how much, I said, yep.
34:58
SPEAKER_02: All right.
34:58
SPEAKER_02: Book it.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: I'll take your cash.
35:01
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: Book it.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: That's funny.
35:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, all right.
35:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, quite an interesting week at the pinball PA.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess so.
35:13
SPEAKER_02: You know, shit happens.
35:15
I mean,
35:16
I was certainly happy with last Saturday with everything went
35:20
smooth.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: The Florentine event went smooth.
35:23
You know,
35:23
having people from other walks of fame show up was pretty damn
35:27
cool.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: Talk about that a little bit.
35:30
we had um we had um whatchamacallit um the bartender from how i
35:37
met your mother
35:38
showed up i don't know i don't remember his name ned something
35:42
and then um i don't
35:43
know that show it's not that he's not famous i just don't know
35:46
that show and then
35:48
um shane douglas the professor from the old wwf days showed up
35:53
i guess to meet jim
35:54
SPEAKER_02: but whatever they were there they all took pictures
36:00
SPEAKER_02: So that was pretty good.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I know you said you didn't know.
36:05
I just was wondering if they,
36:07
you know,
36:07
lived within the area or they traveled for this.
36:11
SPEAKER_02: Nah, they got to live local.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: There's no way they're traveling.
36:15
I can't imagine that,
36:16
you know,
36:17
Jim plays shows every week across the country.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: I can't imagine that they're going to travel to pinball PA to see them.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm assuming they're local guys.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
36:29
SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: Right.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's kind of cool to have some celebrities pop in at the pinball.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was good.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: It was a good little extra bonus, I guess, to an already good day.
36:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
36:44
SPEAKER_02: so did people recognize them,
36:47
SPEAKER_02: or did they introduce themselves,
36:49
SPEAKER_02: or did Ed know who they were,
36:52
SPEAKER_02: or how did they know who they were?
36:54
SPEAKER_02: I think Jim knew who they both were.
36:55
SPEAKER_02: I know that Ed didn't know who the wrestler was, because he asked me.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: He's like, do you know this name, Shane Douglas?
37:04
SPEAKER_02: I was like, yeah, why?
37:05
SPEAKER_02: And he was like, oh, he's in the building.
37:07
SPEAKER_02: I was like, huh, you know me.
37:09
And so I'm like,
37:09
oh,
37:09
he's a fucking professor from the mid-'80s,
37:11
you know?
37:12
SPEAKER_01: Right.
37:13
i'm like running down his character and stuff and it's like i
37:17
just ask him all
37:18
SPEAKER_02: right well yeah that's who he is and the other dude the the bartender guy
37:24
i'm i'm assuming jim knew him but he's so monstrous that you
37:28
wouldn't not notice
37:29
him right seven foot two or something like that real tall tall
37:34
guy yeah very big
37:36
dude so no matter what just being in the room you'd recognize
37:39
him and think he's
37:39
done something so who knows but um i don't know how how they
37:46
figured out that
37:46
that's who they were but that's who they were so all right no
37:50
that was cool
37:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: All right.
37:53
So aside from the little shakeup over at your pinball place,
38:00
how is the business over there?
38:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, are you guys doing okay?
38:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, September, October was tough.
38:07
SPEAKER_02: It always is.
38:08
SPEAKER_02: Going back to school is always tough.
38:11
SPEAKER_02: Picks back up in November, which it has.
38:13
We've had three nice,
38:14
depending on what we do tomorrow,
38:16
three nice weeks in a row.
38:18
SPEAKER_02: So it's fine.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: It ebbs and flow.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: It's like everything else, man.
38:24
SPEAKER_02: Some weeks are good.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: Some weeks are not good.
38:26
SPEAKER_02: It happens.
38:27
SPEAKER_02: Well,
38:28
do you know if it's gained any notoriety or popularity or
38:36
people make that like a
38:37
SPEAKER_02: travel destination or something?
38:39
SPEAKER_02: Some do.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: We've had people come as far as Japan.
38:43
okay because we do have some very rare games you know that are
38:49
in the building like
38:50
we we have two or three that are like one of five that are
38:53
total in existence and
38:55
SPEAKER_02: so people travel to see that stuff and
38:59
But for the most part,
39:00
it's kind of like Chuck E.
39:02
Cheese without the crime.
39:07
It's come in,
39:08
play video games,
39:09
play pinball,
39:11
maybe have a piece of birthday cake.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: That's what it is.
39:15
SPEAKER_02: It's more for families.
39:17
SPEAKER_02: We're not really focused too hard on the hardcore gamey people.
39:22
yeah we want the we want the the 45 year old dad that is having
39:27
trouble connecting
39:28
with his kid and looking to share his his love of gaming with
39:33
his kids love of
39:34
gaming so they merge at pinball pa that's kind of there you are
39:38
that's who our
39:39
crowd is so bringing people together that's what it is we're a
39:42
family business what
39:44
else would you expect from me right let's have a good wholesome
39:47
family business of
39:49
SPEAKER_02: course yeah
39:50
Yeah,
39:51
then the pornographic video games are behind the curtain in the
39:57
back.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: Yes, we got the doors, the little saloon doors.
40:02
SPEAKER_02: Right, like they used to have at the video stores.
40:06
SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: All the family-friendly videos are all out there on the shelves,
40:12
SPEAKER_02: and then they had this one little area in the back.
40:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:15
And it either had those little doors with a bell on it so that
40:19
you couldn't sneak
40:20
SPEAKER_02: in there or it had the beads.
40:22
SPEAKER_02: Remember the beads?
40:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: So that every time you went back there, you heard that of the beads.
40:29
SPEAKER_02: Used to eat that shit because I used to always try it.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: Like we'd go to the – my dad was –
40:36
he just was like i'm not going to blockbuster i'm going to the
40:40
local guy which was
40:41
great because the local guy always had the porn sure but the
40:45
local guy also had you
40:47
i think he had the beads thing so every time i'd try and sneak
40:51
in there he'd hear i
40:53
could just see my dad and minute he heard the beads rustlers
40:56
i'm maybe like what
40:59
SPEAKER_02: are you doing over there
41:03
SPEAKER_02: Stop looking at that Savannah video.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're here to rent family videos.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: Don't be looking at that stuff.
41:18
SPEAKER_02: Right.
41:18
SPEAKER_02: That's funny.
41:21
SPEAKER_02: Too good.
41:22
SPEAKER_02: So what was your dad?
41:25
Did you know what your dad's viewpoint was on porn or video
41:30
porn or anything like that?
41:33
SPEAKER_02: He was like most in that era.
41:36
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he had any video porn.
41:38
I don't think he shot any of my mom sucking his dick or
41:41
anything like that.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he was into that.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: He was like so many of our dads.
41:48
If you dug around in their sock drawer,
41:51
you could find a Playboy or whatever.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: Under the bed or whatever, you could find this or that.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: He was quiet about it, I guess.
42:05
When I would go to the office,
42:06
he had the girly calendar on the wall and that kind of shit.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: But I don't think he was...
42:14
he certainly wasn't as sick as me,
42:19
but he didn't,
42:20
uh,
42:21
he didn't preach about it or anything.
42:23
SPEAKER_02: Look at that filth.
42:24
SPEAKER_02: Look at that.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: Nah, not at all.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: He was just, you know, he would look at a girl.
42:32
Like if,
42:32
if he saw an attractive girl though,
42:34
he wasn't like,
42:35
Oh my God,
42:35
look at her ass.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: You know, he wasn't like that.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: He was more like a little more subtle.
42:40
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty well put together, isn't it?
42:43
SPEAKER_02: Yes, Dad, it is.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: He was, and he goes, take a look at this smut.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, dude, it was that age too.
42:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: That age was literally not allowed to say anything.
42:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: You know,
42:59
SPEAKER_02: people like your dad,
43:00
SPEAKER_02: you think your dad's ever been out in the street and been like,
43:03
SPEAKER_02: that girl's got some really fucking big tits.
43:07
SPEAKER_02: No.
43:07
SPEAKER_02: Your dad's never seen.
43:08
SPEAKER_02: He might look at her and say, hmm, that's very attractive, son.
43:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: She's a good looking girl.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
43:18
SPEAKER_02: She looks like the type you should be looking to settle down with, son.
43:21
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
43:23
SPEAKER_02: Meanwhile, she's some whore.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: You're like, you're right, Dad.
43:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, settle down.
43:30
SPEAKER_02: Find a nice girl, settle down.
43:32
SPEAKER_02: White picket fence, dog.
43:37
SPEAKER_02: All the things we don't want.
43:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it just doesn't work out that way.
43:41
SPEAKER_02: No, definitely not.
43:43
yeah i was i was thinking about that dawn and i were talking
43:47
about relationships
43:49
you know we're chit-chatting it up a little bit about it and uh
43:54
you know it's just
43:56
just just some some guys or some people are just not meant to
44:01
be in you know
44:02
SPEAKER_02: long-term relationships or you know the the
44:07
married settled down type of thing and and just you know just
44:12
sitting there
44:13
thinking about that it's just like how how long could i
44:16
tolerate that and i think i
44:17
know what my tolerate you know my how much i would tolerate
44:20
that i'd be in about
44:22
five years that's about it that's a long time to be that is a
44:26
long time that's a
44:28
SPEAKER_02: long time to be unhappy man yeah
44:32
SPEAKER_02: I think it would just run out on me after.
44:35
And I know it from personal experience because that's about my
44:40
limit right there is
44:42
SPEAKER_02: five years,
44:43
SPEAKER_02: and I'm pretty much done.
44:46
Well,
44:46
I mean,
44:46
most of us just don't want that hassle,
44:51
the hassle of a broad.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: That's really what it comes down to.
44:54
SPEAKER_02: We just don't want it.
44:56
SPEAKER_02: But we get it, unfortunately.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't have to worry too much about that.
45:06
SPEAKER_02: I just packed a bag, got in the truck, and motored down to St.
45:13
Louis for a couple of days and motored back and doing the show
45:16
tonight,
45:17
and it's like,
45:18
you know do you have to do that it's like yeah it's what i do
45:23
yes i do as a matter
45:26
of fact yes yeah and i'm gonna do it again the next time it
45:30
comes around yeah so
45:32
it's pretty good shit well what else you got for us anything
45:37
nothing like i said it
45:38
SPEAKER_02: was a slow week this week not much going on i get you
45:42
SPEAKER_02: All right.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: Well,
45:43
I think this will probably end this warm-up segment for us and
45:48
get our feats on the
45:49
SPEAKER_02: ground.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: But as always,
45:55
we've got the fast pass over there at the locals for the people
46:00
who are requesting
46:01
SPEAKER_02: music.
46:02
So if you haven't gotten,
46:04
if you're a locals member over at classicmetalshow.locals.com,
46:11
uh put your request there in the fast pass if you haven't done
46:14
it already and i
46:16
will pick your tunes out of there and then again if i run out
46:20
of uh fast pass
46:22
requests and there's something in the uh request email uh i'll
46:26
hit those up next so
46:29
SPEAKER_02: As always, appreciate everybody who does participate in the locals.
46:35
SPEAKER_02: And you can go over there and be a member.
46:38
SPEAKER_02: Classicmetalshow.locals.com.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: Sign up.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: $5 a month.
46:43
Helps the show out and gives you a little notoriety on a
46:46
Saturday as well.
46:47
Cool.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
46:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, as always, Mr. Aiken, I will let you pick the lead off track.
46:54
SPEAKER_02: So what shall we play?
46:56
SPEAKER_02: How about, I'm going to make Jackal's night here.
46:59
How about Blue Cheer with the song Saturday Freedom from their
47:05
self-titled?
47:08
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
47:12
SPEAKER_02: There it is.
47:12
SPEAKER_02: All right.
47:14
SPEAKER_02: Got her all pulled up, ready to rock it out.
47:16
SPEAKER_02: Cool.
47:17
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
47:18
SPEAKER_02: All right.
47:18
SPEAKER_02: Well,
47:18
SPEAKER_02: we're going to take a break and play a few tunes,
47:21
SPEAKER_02: and we'll come back and get things rolling along here.
47:24
So for Mr.
47:26
Aiken,
47:26
this is Blue Cheer with Saturday Freedom exclusively here.
47:31
SPEAKER_02: On your classic metal show.
48:11
SPEAKER_03: Hey everybody,
48:11
SPEAKER_02: this is Johnny Gioeli from Hardline,
48:14
SPEAKER_02: Axl Rudy Pell,
48:15
SPEAKER_02: Crush 40,
48:15
SPEAKER_02: and so many other projects.
48:18
SPEAKER_02: 95 albums.
48:19
SPEAKER_02: Can you believe that?
48:20
SPEAKER_02: But you're watching me right here on CMS TV.
48:25
SPEAKER_02: Rock out, people.
48:26
You want to take your chick and you want to be in Section 13 in
48:30
front of the stage?
48:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:32
SPEAKER_02: That's a grand.
48:33
SPEAKER_02: That's a grand.
48:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you get close enough to see Tommy's fake dick.
48:41
SPEAKER_02: It's an attraction.
48:43
SPEAKER_02: And you can see if Vince is actually lip syncing.
49:08
SPEAKER_02: It is your classic metal show right here on the classic metal show.com.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: That is the darkness.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: That is not one.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: It's called, uh, love on the rocks with no ice.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: And when going up, I requested John Phillips.
49:23
Just before that,
49:23
we heard Canadian band priestess with raccoon eyes for T cuz
49:29
brah.
49:30
SPEAKER_02: Some David Bowie in there with don't bring me down for four heady trunk.
49:34
SPEAKER_02: Led Zeppelin with nobody's fault but mine for Jackal.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: And of course,
49:38
we kick that block off there with some blue cheer with Saturday
49:43
freedom for Chris.
49:45
SPEAKER_01: There we go.
49:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:46
SPEAKER_02: So old school.
49:48
SPEAKER_02: That was all old school shit.
49:50
SPEAKER_02: So I like to group it together, as you know.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
49:54
SPEAKER_02: And it seems to work out pretty spectacularly every Saturday.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: You're a genius, man.
50:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know, man.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: Too funny.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: Too funny.
50:08
SPEAKER_02: All right.
50:10
SPEAKER_02: Got anything to kick us off with?
50:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
50:13
SPEAKER_02: Let's get rolling here.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: Let's get rolling.
50:15
SPEAKER_02: Favorite of yours.
50:17
SPEAKER_02: I can't believe I'm going to say it.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: A secret we kept.
50:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
50:24
SPEAKER_02: We were aware of this for, what, a month or two?
50:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what you're making reference to.
50:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm making reference to the official announcement of,
50:34
SPEAKER_02: let me put it on the screen here,
50:37
Metal Church returning with brand new lineup that includes
50:42
David Ellefson,
50:44
SPEAKER_02: Ken Mary,
50:45
SPEAKER_02: and Brian Allen of Vicious Rumors.
50:48
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
50:49
SPEAKER_02: Now, we knew about this.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: When did I tell you?
50:53
uh about three weeks ago yeah we we knew for a little while but
50:57
we were sworn to
50:58
secrecy yeah i mean is is that though is that the quote unquote
51:04
the metal church
51:05
lineup you want to see i wonder what uh what prompted the uh
51:10
big big lineup change
51:13
yeah the only thing i could think of is maybe the other guys
51:16
are busy with other
51:18
SPEAKER_02: bands
51:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
51:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, or maybe Kurt wasn't happy with the last lineup of the band.
51:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: That was a pretty solid lineup for most of the members for the last,
51:35
SPEAKER_02: well,
51:36
SPEAKER_02: quite a few years,
51:37
SPEAKER_02: 18 years maybe.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: No,
51:38
not that long because there was the lineup in between that we
51:42
just had with the
51:43
SPEAKER_02: Congregation of Aggravation or whatever that album was called.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: The one with Mark Lopes as the singer.
51:50
Yeah,
51:50
but aside from the singer,
51:53
most of the guys have been in the band a while.
51:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, who knows?
51:57
SPEAKER_02: They could be busy.
51:58
They could be busy,
52:00
or they could be...
52:01
Kurt didn't want to play with those guys anymore,
52:04
and...
52:05
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
52:06
SPEAKER_02: Certainly getting Ellefson and Ken Mary in the band,
52:09
SPEAKER_02: you know,
52:09
SPEAKER_02: those are upgrades no matter who you put in there.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: Right, of course.
52:13
SPEAKER_02: And as you know, Ken Mary was playing with Jack Russell's Great White.
52:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and Flotsam.
52:22
yeah for quite a while and you know uh people who may or may
52:27
not be familiar with
52:28
ken but uh he he's like a hardcore metal guy yeah he is he's
52:33
like really into the i
52:34
mean he'll play the more melodic stuff you know but but he he
52:38
really likes some of
52:39
the really brutal stuff you know yeah he's he's a metal drummer
52:42
that makes money
52:43
playing less metal stuff right right because he has been was he
52:48
an alice cooper and
52:49
SPEAKER_02: um
52:50
house of lords i think he was in for for a bit yeah um you know
52:55
so he's been into
52:56
some some lighter bands i guess not that those bands are light
53:00
necessarily just
53:02
SPEAKER_02: melodic bands yeah they're not metal church that's for sure
53:07
SPEAKER_02: But, yeah, Ken is a player.
53:09
SPEAKER_02: And Brian Allen from Vicious Rumors, he's good, too.
53:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, they're all good guys.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: It's just this is almost like an all-star lineup, though.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
53:21
Well,
53:22
maybe that's the only way to make Metal Church worth enough
53:25
money to tour.
53:26
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I have to imagine that Metal Church with Ellefson –
53:33
specifically with a grammy award winner is worth more than
53:38
ronnie monroe metal
53:39
church well yeah i agree but it just seems kind of funny that
53:44
it i think what it is
53:46
for me it sounds like a hired gun thing you know it kind of
53:51
like what uh dead
53:52
SPEAKER_02: daisies did with glenn hughes sure you know
53:56
we're dead daisies i mean we we made our mark on the world we
54:00
you know we had a
54:02
john karabi in there it's you know he he's those slouch as far
54:06
as vocals are
54:07
concerned but he isn't of the star power that a glenn hughes is
54:12
right you know and
54:13
then then you know john goes off to do his own thing and they
54:18
bring in a glenn
54:19
SPEAKER_02: hughes to front
54:21
dead daisies and that only lasted you know for a while and then
54:26
he's off and doing
54:28
glenn hughes stuff again and then john karabi comes back right
54:33
you know so that's
54:34
kind of my point it's it sounds almost hired gunnish you know i
54:39
i've got some hired
54:41
SPEAKER_02: name brand people in the band
54:44
I almost wonder if he did the last lineup with the Mark Lopes
54:48
and the fact that
54:48
SPEAKER_02: Lopes especially is not back if he just wasn't happy with it.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: So he retooled it completely.
54:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I wasn't impressed with Mark's
55:01
vocal style you know it just it just seemed too repetitive i
55:07
liked it personally i
55:08
thought it was really good and you know it was very aggressive
55:11
which you know the
55:12
heavier it is the better i like it so maybe that was it but and
55:16
and what's the name
55:17
of this the new singer the new singer is brian allen he was in
55:21
vicious rumors the
55:22
last couple of records all right and that's different than even
55:27
we had heard
55:28
SPEAKER_02: Because we had heard that the singer from Trauma was the guy.
55:34
SPEAKER_02: I had heard that.
55:35
SPEAKER_02: Right.
55:36
And then when I saw this announcement,
55:37
I was like,
55:37
man,
55:37
did they make a change that quick?
55:39
So I went back and listened to the demo that we had of Fuck
55:44
Around and Find Out
55:45
SPEAKER_02: versus the actual recorded,
55:48
SPEAKER_02: the one that's released,
55:49
SPEAKER_02: it's the same guy.
55:50
SPEAKER_02: So we were just told the wrong guy.
55:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
55:52
SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:54
SPEAKER_02: But, yeah.
55:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:56
um what would you call this mega church i guess yeah something
56:00
like that it's mega
56:01
church something like that well you know i'll be i'll be happy
56:05
to go see it me too
56:06
you know if and when it tours around and things but uh you know
56:11
as a as a fan of
56:13
metal church i mean you know now we're now we're down to this
56:17
thing where metal
56:19
SPEAKER_02: church is kurt vanderhoof yeah
56:23
Well,
56:23
I think we're getting down to that with almost every band we
56:26
like,
56:26
aren't we?
56:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, with, with what's his name?
56:37
SPEAKER_02: How?
56:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: Mike Howe committing suicide a few years ago.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
56:42
You know,
56:43
it,
56:43
it,
56:43
it felt,
56:44
you know,
56:45
like the metal church that we could,
56:47
you know,
56:49
gravitate toward as far as like the classic sound lineup and
56:52
all that yeah and but
56:54
then since since mike's passing you know they they've been
56:58
trying to find their
56:59
footing as metal church and you know we'll see how this one
57:05
works out well would
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SPEAKER_02: you like me to play the single fafo yeah
57:13
SPEAKER_02: Let's hear some.
57:14
SPEAKER_02: Let's hear a little Metal Church with Fuck Around and Find Out.
57:20
SPEAKER_02: Probably not going to get a lot of radio love on this one.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
57:30
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58:56
SPEAKER_02: I can't believe OMOM got this gig.
59:01
Yeah,
59:02
this guy has more of a David Wayne-ish delivery than he does a
59:08
Mike Howe delivery.
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SPEAKER_02: He does look like OMOM, though.
59:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he does.
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SPEAKER_02: And here's some more.
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SPEAKER_02: Face it, fuck around then you'll find out
1:00:01
SPEAKER_02: Sounds like Metal Church to me.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_02: I like it.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it sounds like earlier Metal Church.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_02: Again, like I said, the David Wayne era.
1:00:12
I think this guy could probably carry off the house stuff too,
1:00:15
don't you think?
1:00:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_02: Good choice.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm for this.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_02: What are you thinking on hearing the song?
1:00:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, I'm assuming they're
1:00:31
recording a record yeah yeah there's record coming out all
1:00:34
right so i you know if
1:00:36
it's in this direction i i can only imagine it'll be you know
1:00:41
pretty good i'm
1:00:42
looking forward to it i think it's going to be solid so that'll
1:00:46
be fun at least
1:00:47
SPEAKER_02: we'll have some new metal church for 2026 that should be yeah something
1:00:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, I wonder if Kurt has gotten his over his back issues.
1:01:01
I know he's been having back issues for forever and a day,
1:01:04
which is kind of what sidelined
1:01:06
metal church at least that's what was in the news anyway or in
1:01:11
reported right you
1:01:13
know that uh kurt couldn't tour because of his back issues and
1:01:17
things but yet right
1:01:19
after that he was performing with that side that side band yeah
1:01:23
and had videos and
1:01:24
everything else so who knows yeah who does know the politics of
1:01:30
bands and you know
1:01:33
SPEAKER_02: they're all so honest
1:01:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
1:01:37
It's just,
1:01:38
you know,
1:01:38
what they tell the public and what the truth is,
1:01:41
is two different things.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_02: They're always so literally honest with everything they say.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't low ticket sales, even though we sold 10 tickets to that show.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_02: It was somebody had a health issue.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_02: Sure they did.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, anyway, uh, fuck around, find out first single from metal church.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_02: It is out there.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_02: New metal church, David Ellefson can marry Brian Allen.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_02: And who's the fourth, um, long time guitarist, Rick van Zant.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_02: So he's the only one left from the old crew.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:19
So him and him and Kurt obviously like playing off of each
1:02:23
other and they added a
1:02:24
SPEAKER_02: new band around them.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_02: So there you have it.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_02: Metal church.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_02: Um,
1:02:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm kind of excited about that.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_02: I think it's going to be good.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_02: I like hearing that there's one,
1:02:35
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:02:36
SPEAKER_02: I like hearing that there's one more run in,
1:02:38
SPEAKER_02: in a band that we like,
1:02:40
SPEAKER_02: you know what I mean?
1:02:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, cause there's not enough of that.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:02:45
SPEAKER_02: Here's one,
1:02:46
SPEAKER_02: here's another story that I think you,
1:02:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't think this is a surprise at all,
1:02:53
SPEAKER_02: but I think you might have something to say about it,
1:02:57
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_02: Um,
1:03:00
SPEAKER_02: Cinderella,
1:03:01
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:03:03
apparently was asked to do a huge tour next summer and Tom
1:03:09
Kiefer shot it right
1:03:10
SPEAKER_02: down.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh,
1:03:12
SPEAKER_02: in a new interview with Canada's,
1:03:14
SPEAKER_02: the metal voice,
1:03:15
SPEAKER_02: Jimmy K,
1:03:15
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:03:16
Fred Curry was asked if there could ever be a Cinderella
1:03:20
reunion of all the
1:03:22
SPEAKER_02: surviving members of the band.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_02: Jeff Labar died in 2021 in his apartment in Nashville.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_02: He was 58.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_02: Um,
1:03:29
SPEAKER_02: The Cinderella drummers said, there's not.
1:03:33
And we were asked to do a big tour next summer,
1:03:38
a huge tour,
1:03:39
and it's just not going to happen.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_02: So it goes on and on, but it's nonsense from there.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_02: Here's the question.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_02: What is the big tour that they were asked to do?
1:03:52
SPEAKER_02: I think I know.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_02: You have any idea?
1:03:56
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_02: Probably the Motley tour.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_02: You think the Carnival Sins thing?
1:04:03
SPEAKER_02: What other big tour in their era is there next summer?
1:04:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_02: Is that considered a big tour, though?
1:04:10
SPEAKER_02: Here it's playing Blossom.
1:04:16
here it's here it's blossom with um tesla and extreme okay i
1:04:23
could easily see it
1:04:24
being tesla cinderella motley yeah i could see extreme as the
1:04:32
throw on because
1:04:33
nuno's hot right now and the motley guys being that kind of
1:04:37
lame that they would
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: just pick up the hot guy
1:04:42
SPEAKER_02: But don't you think this is probably what it would have been?
1:04:45
SPEAKER_02: It could have been.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I wasn't aware of that.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: because part of the stories that I brought has to do with this fact that,
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:04:56
SPEAKER_02: the quote unquote,
1:04:57
SPEAKER_02: the carnival of sins is back.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, who cares?
1:05:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_02: Are you excited?
1:05:05
SPEAKER_02: Well, that was going to be my question.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_02: Please, we can switch to that.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_02: Let's stay here just for a second, and we'll do mine right after this.
1:05:17
is this a sign that tom just does not get along with fred and
1:05:25
brittingham i don't i
1:05:26
don't think it has anything to do with them getting along well
1:05:30
i'm not i'm not
1:05:31
SPEAKER_02: aware that there was any animosity not either but
1:05:35
SPEAKER_02: The only reason,
1:05:36
SPEAKER_02: as far as I know,
1:05:38
that they did not prior to the death of Jeff Labar is because
1:05:46
of Jeff Labar's being
1:05:49
out of hand with the substance abuse and the drugs and alcohol
1:05:53
and things.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: Because I guess...
1:05:57
you know they were on one of those rock cruises sure and i
1:06:01
guess things kind of got
1:06:02
out of hand and he kind of uh embarrassed acted up right yeah
1:06:08
and uh i guess tom
1:06:10
was like i'm not gonna i'm not gonna tour and be responsible
1:06:16
for someone dying on
1:06:19
SPEAKER_01: tour you know but that guy's not in it anymore
1:06:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, true.
1:06:23
But what I'm saying is I'm not aware that there's any animosity
1:06:28
between Tom and Fred and Jeff.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_02: So why would he not do this?
1:06:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he just wants the money for himself.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_02: I guess, but it's got to be.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's one of those things that,
1:06:43
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:06:43
SPEAKER_02: it makes less sense for Tom to go do Cinderella when he's
1:06:50
SPEAKER_02: You know, it takes all the proceeds for his Tom Kiefer band.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_02: I have a theory on this.
1:07:00
It's a total throwing the spaghetti at the wall and seeing what
1:07:04
sticks theory.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_02: Do you think maybe it's because Kiefer's wife is in the solo band?
1:07:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, that could be something to it.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_02: So he'll stay with the solo band instead of going.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_02: Because, A, this would make a ton more money, even in an opening slot.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_02: This would make a lot more money than playing a tooth out like a casino.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:07:31
SPEAKER_02: if he's out there playing sheds,
1:07:34
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:07:34
SPEAKER_02: they got to be getting,
1:07:36
SPEAKER_02: what,
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: $20,000 a night,
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: right?
1:07:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, here's the thing.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_02: I would think that the Tom Kiefer band playing casinos.
1:07:45
yeah he's probably getting 20 to 25 so do you think this would
1:07:50
be more though on in
1:07:52
but if if he was if cinderella was getting a shed and let's
1:07:58
just say that their
1:07:59
their price was 30 000 right a night split that up three ways
1:08:05
that's 10 grand a
1:08:06
SPEAKER_02: piece yeah
1:08:09
SPEAKER_02: Tom Kiefer playing a casino at $20,000 or $25,000.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_02: That's $25,000.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_02: No, I get it.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_02: And I get the math of it.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_02: The thing I wonder, though, is...
1:08:22
and this is only from knowing musicians for a lot of years they
1:08:27
hunger for that big
1:08:28
stage once again once they haven't had it they get hungry for
1:08:33
it you think Kiefer
1:08:34
just doesn't care it's just work to him now yeah I don't know I
1:08:37
just I just think
1:08:38
SPEAKER_02: Kiefer I think Kiefer is just a guy who who just really puts a lot of um
1:08:46
SPEAKER_02: value into his, his art or his craft.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_02: And I don't think that,
1:08:52
SPEAKER_02: and the thing is,
1:08:53
SPEAKER_02: is he could play those Cinderella songs anytime he wants and does,
1:08:59
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:09:00
SPEAKER_02: obviously along with a solo,
1:09:04
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:09:04
SPEAKER_02: material and stuff,
1:09:05
SPEAKER_02: but I'm sure it has to do with just,
1:09:09
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:09:10
SPEAKER_02: it's,
1:09:10
SPEAKER_02: it,
1:09:11
SPEAKER_02: it,
1:09:12
SPEAKER_02: economic sense.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't make any economic sense for Tom to.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_02: Resurrect Cinderella.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_02: It's sad in this point to see it just because,
1:09:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't know,
1:09:25
SPEAKER_02: for me,
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: and again,
1:09:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm only speaking for me personally.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_02: Maybe other people have a different opinion.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_02: Maybe you do.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't connect at all with the Tom Kiefer band.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the songs are good.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to say it's bad.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_02: You know, I listened to it.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_02: The songs sound okay,
1:09:46
SPEAKER_02: but it's missing whatever it was that Cinderella had,
1:09:50
SPEAKER_02: and I don't know what that is,
1:09:54
SPEAKER_02: but it's not in the Kiefer band to me.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_02: Well, it isn't as raw and edgy, the Kiefer band.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_02: It's more laid back.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: The Kiefer band is more laid back.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, cause Tom, Tom is really into the whole blues thing.
1:10:12
And,
1:10:13
and I think that,
1:10:14
uh,
1:10:14
you know,
1:10:15
he settles into that,
1:10:16
that blues pocket.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: He's stuck in the heartbreak station.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_02: So, but I think that's what he likes.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
1:10:27
SPEAKER_02: I I'm sure he likes to jam out and stuff,
1:10:29
SPEAKER_02: but I think his,
1:10:31
SPEAKER_02: his heart is in that,
1:10:33
SPEAKER_02: that,
1:10:34
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:10:34
SPEAKER_02: laid back blues slide guitar.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_02: And,
1:10:38
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:10:39
SPEAKER_02: kind of,
1:10:39
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:10:41
SPEAKER_02: kind of like what melon camp does,
1:10:43
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:10:43
SPEAKER_02: that,
1:10:43
SPEAKER_02: that,
1:10:43
SPEAKER_02: what do you,
1:10:45
SPEAKER_02: what do you call that?
1:10:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, dad rock heartland, heartland, heartland dad rock.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I guess Tom Kiefer is in that world.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_02: He's like in the same world as like Bon Jovi as well.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: Bon Jovi used to rock.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: Now he plays that garbage that we played last week.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, so, yeah, I don't know.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_02: I just saw this.
1:11:12
I was like,
1:11:12
this is,
1:11:13
to me,
1:11:15
I saw this and was like,
1:11:16
man,
1:11:16
is that disappointing.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_02: Cause that would have been a reason to sneak out and see that show.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:23
Even at blossom,
1:11:25
if it was Tesla and Cinderella,
1:11:29
and then I could leave,
1:11:30
I would go.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: I would go to that.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_02: I would go see Tesla and Cinderella.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_02: There's no way I would stay for Motley.
1:11:38
I have zero interest in seeing it and then seeing half of the
1:11:42
show because it's at
1:11:43
Blossom instead of inside where they can erect all the bullshit
1:11:48
to mask their lack
1:11:49
SPEAKER_02: of playing ability.
1:11:52
SPEAKER_02: I can't imagine going to that and staying for that,
1:11:54
SPEAKER_02: but I would like to see Cinderella and I would like to see Tesla again,
1:11:59
SPEAKER_02: but I guess I'll just wait for the casino shows.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_02: I guess that's what I got to do.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, go ahead with your Motley thing.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_02: Well,
1:12:08
SPEAKER_02: what I was,
1:12:09
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:12:09
SPEAKER_02: what I was going to say is,
1:12:11
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:12:12
obviously not that a Motley tour is a big deal because he just
1:12:18
been beating that
1:12:19
SPEAKER_02: horse to death forever.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_02: But,
1:12:22
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:12:22
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:12:22
SPEAKER_02: to,
1:12:22
to announce it as if it's like a big deal to have the carnival
1:12:26
of sins tour again,
1:12:28
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: and,
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: and you know,
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: all the theatrics on the stage and you know,
1:12:35
SPEAKER_02: the,
1:12:36
SPEAKER_02: well,
1:12:37
SPEAKER_02: as they describe,
1:12:38
SPEAKER_02: well,
1:12:38
SPEAKER_02: hang on a minute.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_02: Let's let's,
1:12:40
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:12:41
SPEAKER_02: let me see if I could find this,
1:12:42
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:12:43
SPEAKER_02: this one clip I had from when they were doing the carnival sins thing.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh, let me see here.
1:12:52
I guess they've forgotten that wasn't that the last tour that
1:12:55
wasn't that the retirement tour?
1:12:58
SPEAKER_02: Was that carnival?
1:12:59
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no.
1:13:01
SPEAKER_02: This was back in the early part of the two thousands.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_02: I gave up on Motley long before that.
1:13:09
SPEAKER_02: I think the last time I went and saw Motley was with you.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: Was that generation swine?
1:13:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was at the CSU Convocation Center or something like that.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the last time I saw him.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_02: I just was, like, done with him after that.
1:13:25
Yeah,
1:13:26
here's the morning show that they,
1:13:31
Nicky and Mick Mars,
1:13:35
were doing a morning show in St.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_02: Louis because they were bringing that Carnival of Sins tour.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, back then?
1:13:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they didn't...
1:13:47
the the hosts the morning show hosts on the like a tv thing
1:13:52
yeah uh they obviously
1:13:55
did not know much about motley and so nikki was kind of goofing
1:13:59
on him sure and and
1:14:01
they real they finally got to the point he realized he was
1:14:04
being goofed on and
1:14:05
SPEAKER_02: right was got all butthurt about it but here here's here's that clip
1:14:11
Okay,
1:14:11
well,
1:14:11
they were banned earlier this year on NBC,
1:14:13
but we've got them right now on Fox 2.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_03: Sure we do.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_03: It's two of the most popular band members of Motley Crue.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_03: Tommy Lee and Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue joining us live this morning.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_03: Are you guys alive?
1:14:24
SPEAKER_03: Are you alive?
1:14:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_02: You're with us?
1:14:27
SPEAKER_03: I'm Tommy.
1:14:28
SPEAKER_03: This is Nikki.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_03: I think we know who you are.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_02: I think we got that.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_03: You guys are pretty famous.
1:14:32
You guys were banned from NBC for using a naughty word that
1:14:35
wasn't bleeped out on
1:14:36
SPEAKER_03: New Year's Eve,
1:14:37
SPEAKER_03: but we're letting you hear on Fox.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_03: We can say it on Fox?
1:14:40
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_03: That's not what I'm saying.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I was excited.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_03: We did want to give you a big congratulations, though.
1:14:47
Apparently,
1:14:47
you guys were hearing are the sixth top grossing midsummer
1:14:53
tour.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_03: And so, I mean, that's great.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_03: We got Kenny Chesney at number one, but you guys are at number six.
1:14:59
SPEAKER_03: We put the gross in grossing.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_02: This whole segment is so tough to listen to.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_02: I know.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_02: It's just that female.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_02: Both of them.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_02: The corporate guy.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_02: You said a naughty word.
1:15:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:15:18
This is a guy that probably spends his time reading,
1:15:21
like,
1:15:21
stocks and stuff.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_02: On the NASDAQ today, C-U-K is up 31 points, and look who it is.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_02: It's the guys from the Motley Crue.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_02: Just not the right guy.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I took the braids out when I got back in Motley Crue.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_02: I decided the braids didn't look right.
1:15:45
SPEAKER_03: It looks okay to us.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_03: Do you like it?
1:15:49
SPEAKER_03: Where is Tommy today?
1:15:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't like it.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_03: I'm Tommy.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_03: What happened to Tommy?
1:15:55
SPEAKER_03: I'm looking up at the screen.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_03: I realize that Tommy's not even there.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, you introduced me as Tommy.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_02: I figured I would go with the flow.
1:16:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's Mick.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're trying to pull a joke on us.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_03: You guys are pulling a fast one.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_02: You're pulling a fast one.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, shame on you.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_02: Jesus, that's bad.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_02: You're going to be in St.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_02: Louis coming up pretty soon.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_02: We are.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_02: Tell us some of your memories from St.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_02: Louis.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_02: Can you remember anything?
1:16:28
Well,
1:16:29
I remember that we've had great shows there,
1:16:32
and it's a rowdy crowd.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_02: And we've got,
1:16:36
SPEAKER_02: this time around,
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: Carnival of Sins Tour,
1:16:38
SPEAKER_02: we've got Sum 41,
1:16:42
SPEAKER_02: Silver Tide,
1:16:42
SPEAKER_02: the X's,
1:16:43
SPEAKER_02: and the Yeasty Girls with us.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, that sounds like fun.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_02: Have you heard the UC girls yet?
1:16:49
SPEAKER_02: No, I haven't.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking forward to this one.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_02: Are you?
1:16:53
SPEAKER_02: You sound like a guy who's going to be front row and center for this.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that sounds like fun.
1:16:59
He sounds like the guy that knew Kenny Chesney when he said
1:17:02
that name but has no
1:17:03
SPEAKER_02: idea who he's talking to.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:17:08
You recently spent some time down at Disneyland with your son
1:17:12
and your wife.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_03: This has got to be kind of rough.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_03: You've got a 10-year-old now.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_03: And you're out touring around with the band.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_03: I've got five kids.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_03: You've got that many?
1:17:21
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_03: Holy cow, you've been busy.
1:17:23
SPEAKER_03: Well, I've had sex five times in my life.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_03: Exactly, yeah.
1:17:28
SPEAKER_03: You should be very potent.
1:17:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm very potent.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_03: You're impotent.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm an impotent, potent person.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I mean, is it rough being away from the family on tour?
1:17:41
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's different from the 80s.
1:17:43
SPEAKER_02: This is the worst.
1:17:47
SPEAKER_02: This is tame-down morning TV for the housewives.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_02: This is everything that could possibly be wrong in an interview.
1:18:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:18:01
SPEAKER_02: Bad questions.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_02: Every question is a what's it like or some form of a what's it like.
1:18:05
Well,
1:18:06
again,
1:18:08
it's two morning show hosts who know nothing about Motley Crue.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:18:13
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1:18:19
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1:18:26
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1:18:32
SPEAKER_02: And clearly their staff didn't do any research.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_02: Handed them a piece of paper that said, Motley Crue, September 16th, St.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_02: Louis Arena, whatever they're playing.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_02: And that's all they have in front of them.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_02: They have no information, no knowledge.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_02: What's your favorite memory of our town?
1:18:51
SPEAKER_02: Really?
1:18:52
SPEAKER_02: Can you remember anything about St.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_02: Louis?
1:18:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_02: Because we heard that you guys party all the time,
1:19:00
SPEAKER_02: so everything we ask is going to be a question about you being drunk.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_02: This sucks.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_02: It is different,
1:19:11
but the important part of touring is to put the best show on
1:19:15
that we can put on.
1:19:16
We think we're putting on one of the best shows in rock and
1:19:18
roll right now.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_00: We're having a blast.
1:19:21
SPEAKER_00: Excuse me, the phone's ringing.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_03: You can't do that yet.
1:19:24
SPEAKER_03: So the show includes aerial displays, circus performers.
1:19:27
SPEAKER_03: Is that all included in the show when you come to St.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_03: Louis?
1:19:30
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_02: All of it.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_02: Choppers on stage, pyro, video screens, circus tents.
1:19:37
SPEAKER_02: Fire-blowing midgets.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_02: Fire-blowing midgets.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes we blow the midget up.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_03: Sometimes Nikki catches on fire.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_02: Is that right?
1:19:45
SPEAKER_02: Is that right?
1:19:46
SPEAKER_02: What?
1:19:46
SPEAKER_02: No, we're just kidding.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Lord.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_03: Final question.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_03: He had to mention the F word.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_03: They're telling me we got to wrap, guys, but I want to ask you.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_03: Who rocked harder in the 80s, Motley Crue or Poison?
1:20:00
SPEAKER_03: Who?
1:20:01
SPEAKER_03: Thanks for joining us.
1:20:03
SPEAKER_02: What an asshole.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh, got to bleep that one.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_03: Thank you, guys.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_02: We're moving right along right now.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_02: We want to tell you that we've got some more stuff coming up.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_03: That concert, by the way, August 9th, if you really want to see it.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to be there.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_03: You won't be there.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_02: No kidding.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_02: I thought you said that was going to be fun.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_02: You couldn't wait for it.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_02: Now you're not going to be there.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_02: Now because he called you an asshole, you're not going.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_02: When you were being an asshole.
1:20:30
SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_02: So there you go.
1:20:32
SPEAKER_02: That's the last time that they came around with the carnival ascent.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got no.
1:20:39
Look,
1:20:40
it's obvious they have to do this because their performance is
1:20:43
terrible.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know, but somebody, were people clamoring?
1:20:47
SPEAKER_02: When are you going to do that Carnival of Sins thing?
1:20:49
SPEAKER_02: You're going to bring,
1:20:50
SPEAKER_02: like,
1:20:51
SPEAKER_02: circus performers and fire breathers and jugglers and...
1:20:56
SPEAKER_02: No,
1:20:56
SPEAKER_02: this is clearly a management thing.
1:21:00
Manager said,
1:21:01
we could squeeze one more summer out of this fucking dried up
1:21:04
lemon.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_02: I can't imagine.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_02: I know this.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_02: I know they have been...
1:21:13
advertising the out of this tour i know this weekend was when
1:21:16
the tickets went on
1:21:17
sale i can't not fathom this doing well can you no that's what
1:21:23
i'm saying when you
1:21:25
said uh about fred cory saying that they were invited to be on
1:21:29
a big tour i was
1:21:30
just like is is this considered a big tour yeah i i mean poison
1:21:38
has pretty much
1:21:38
SPEAKER_02: said they're not gonna tour
1:21:41
SPEAKER_02: So, what, Def Leppard, maybe?
1:21:46
SPEAKER_02: No idea.
1:21:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what they'd be touring on.
1:21:48
They've been on tour for a couple of years on their fucking
1:21:51
terrible record,
1:21:52
too.
1:21:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:21:54
SPEAKER_02: So this Carnival of Sins starts in the middle of July.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:22:01
And plays outside of Pittsburgh at Burgettstown at the Pavilion
1:22:05
at Star Lake.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_02: Then they're over in New York at Darien Lake Amphitheater up in Detroit.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_02: Pine Knob.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_02: Playing all sheds.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're outdoor things.
1:22:21
And then getting later into August is when they're heading
1:22:24
toward the Midwest,
1:22:26
I guess.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_02: Let me see here.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_02: They're playing Tinley Park over here outside of Chicago,
1:22:33
SPEAKER_02: August 23rd,
1:22:35
SPEAKER_02: Cuyahoga Falls the following night at Blossom Music Center,
1:22:40
then down to Cincinnati to River Bend Music Center and back up
1:22:45
to Grand Rapids at
1:22:46
SPEAKER_02: the AccuSure Amphitheater.
1:22:50
SPEAKER_02: It's a whole lot of shows I won't be going to.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_02: There's no reason to go to this.
1:22:56
SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
1:22:58
so yeah are you amazed that you just don't like this band at
1:23:01
the level that we
1:23:02
don't well i am they're a joke anymore i mean i mean the i i
1:23:08
think the big number
1:23:10
well there's two biggest reasons you know obviously vince has
1:23:14
has been so out of
1:23:16
shape and just hard to watch and listen to you know and you
1:23:22
know you already know
1:23:23
SPEAKER_02: that it's all
1:23:24
fake you know as vince hasn't sung words in 20 years right you
1:23:30
know and and that
1:23:31
gets old you know that just gets to be an old shtick and then
1:23:35
of course nikki six
1:23:36
and his you know antics you know you just he's just become a
1:23:41
very dislikable person
1:23:43
and you're just like why do i want to go see nikki six up there
1:23:46
doing fake bass
1:23:47
lines and you know out of shape that my uh vince neal not
1:23:52
singing the words and
1:23:54
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:23:54
obviously Tommy has kept himself together and still seems to
1:23:59
perform at a high
1:24:00
SPEAKER_02: level as a drummer,
1:24:01
SPEAKER_02: you know?
1:24:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
1:24:02
SPEAKER_02: but even him,
1:24:03
SPEAKER_02: there was a time that you would just go to see Tommy Lee,
1:24:05
SPEAKER_02: but now it's just,
1:24:08
we've had too many rap videos that just make him an obnoxious
1:24:11
douche that we don't
1:24:12
SPEAKER_02: want to see anymore.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:24:14
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, we've seen it.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
1:24:17
SPEAKER_02: We've seen it too much.
1:24:18
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:24:19
they burned out the market and it's just what what do they
1:24:22
bring into the table
1:24:23
that that we haven't seen already yeah nothing and and it just
1:24:28
gets worse and worse
1:24:30
with each tour i mean now you know vince recovering from two
1:24:34
strokes you know yeah
1:24:38
SPEAKER_02: so now you got to stroke that vince neal and and no mcmars and um
1:24:45
SPEAKER_02: Wheeling out the Carnival of Sins props.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, at least John Fievel looked the part.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_02: He looks like he's from a carnival.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_02: He does.
1:24:56
I mean,
1:24:57
with the big long coat and the white makeup and stuff,
1:24:59
he looks like a clown.
1:25:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he looks like a circus performer.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_02: He does.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_02: He'll fit right in on this stage.
1:25:05
SPEAKER_02: You won't know if it's him or a midget blowing fire.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_02: At least he'll fit.
1:25:11
SPEAKER_02: But, again, is the...
1:25:15
announcement that it's the carnival of sins return is is that a
1:25:19
is that a big draw
1:25:20
did people go man that was that was the most you know
1:25:25
entertaining motley show i've
1:25:26
ever seen yeah i it was so good 25 years ago i gotta go again
1:25:31
yeah no one is saying
1:25:33
SPEAKER_02: that nobody is saying that uh yeah this this just sounds terrible
1:25:41
really does not sound like a good fun time at least to me i
1:25:45
don't know about to you
1:25:46
but to me it sounds awful i'm not going to that so nikki six
1:25:52
says vince neal
1:25:53
SPEAKER_02: sounded solid and badass yeah this this is let me put that on the screen
1:26:03
Nikki six says Vince Neil sounded solid and bad-ass during the
1:26:07
latest residency.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_02: Did he though?
1:26:10
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_02: Is there any video from it at all?
1:26:14
SPEAKER_02: From the residency?
1:26:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure there is, and I'm sure he sounds terrible.
1:26:19
SPEAKER_02: I want to know how solid and bad-ass Vince sounded at the residency.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_01: Let's find us one here.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_02: I, you know, how, how, uh, how do you try to sell that to the audience?
1:26:36
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:26:37
SPEAKER_02: is that,
1:26:37
SPEAKER_02: is that the,
1:26:38
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:26:38
SPEAKER_02: selling point that,
1:26:40
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:26:40
SPEAKER_02: Nikki says that Vince is sounding better than ever and people go,
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: oh,
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: well,
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: I was,
1:26:46
SPEAKER_02: I was thinking about skipping out on the Motley show,
1:26:48
SPEAKER_02: but now that Nikki says that Vince sounds solid and bad-ass,
1:26:52
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:26:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm,
1:26:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to go.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because apparently no Motley Crue fan has YouTube.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's see.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_02: Let's see if he sounds.
1:27:04
I pulled this completely at random,
1:27:06
so I don't even know if the audio is good.
1:27:08
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_02: If he sounds solid and badass.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go.
1:27:55
better it's hard to tell on this if that's vince actually
1:28:02
singing the words i mean
1:28:05
it's probably not it's probably not but yeah that's that's a
1:28:09
pretty big that's a
1:28:10
pretty big stage they got though dude they're still a huge band
1:28:14
i know i get it i
1:28:15
know people will go but i'm just i don't know we can't figure
1:28:20
out why it's still a
1:28:21
SPEAKER_02: big band that's the problem they haven't been good in
1:28:26
SPEAKER_02: Have they been good since Karabi left?
1:28:29
SPEAKER_02: Honestly, and I'm not trying to say that because I'm a Karabi guy.
1:28:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
1:28:33
SPEAKER_02: are there legitimate even songs that you catch yourself,
1:28:37
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:28:39
SPEAKER_02: we're the saints of Los Angeles or whatever.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_02: Do you catch yourself humming along the way or pulling up on Spotify?
1:28:47
SPEAKER_02: After Karabi.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_02: New tattoo.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:28:50
SPEAKER_02: New tattoo or what's the other one?
1:28:52
SPEAKER_02: Murder in high heels or something.
1:28:54
SPEAKER_02: Hell in high heels.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_02: Hell in high heels.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_02: There's that fake.
1:28:59
SPEAKER_02: There's that song fake from new tattoo.
1:29:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, have they done any dogs of war sex?
1:29:06
SPEAKER_02: These are all lousy songs.
1:29:10
SPEAKER_02: All of them.
1:29:12
I don't think they've had a good song since Dr.
1:29:15
Feelgood with the Vince lineup.
1:29:19
SPEAKER_02: Do you think they have?
1:29:21
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_02: If I Die Tomorrow?
1:29:23
SPEAKER_02: Was that them?
1:29:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:29:27
SPEAKER_02: Since Dr. Feelgood, that was their pinnacle right there.
1:29:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_02: And it was over.
1:29:33
SPEAKER_02: And Primal Scream on that Best Of thing.
1:29:37
SPEAKER_02: Best Of, yeah.
1:29:39
SPEAKER_02: Which was probably just a throw, a holdover.
1:29:42
the same as the other song that was okay too,
1:29:45
which is that Ford Fairlane one.
1:29:47
SPEAKER_02: What was that song?
1:29:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:29:53
So,
1:29:53
so at that,
1:29:54
at the point in,
1:29:56
what was that 91 when primal scream came out?
1:29:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_02: I think that's just before Vince got the boot that that was, you know,
1:30:07
probably the best motley at that point as far as you know songs
1:30:11
and performance and
1:30:12
everything yeah that song was called rock and roll junkie by
1:30:17
the way the ford
1:30:18
fairlane one remember that one yeah you know yeah they just i'm
1:30:24
i'm constantly
1:30:25
amazed and it just it is weird when you look at all the biggest
1:30:29
bands their early
1:30:31
SPEAKER_02: records were so good that it carries them through
1:30:37
SPEAKER_02: You know, almost a half century of shit.
1:30:39
SPEAKER_02: Think about it, every one of these bands.
1:30:42
SPEAKER_02: It's no different than Guns N' Roses.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying, all of them.
1:30:46
SPEAKER_02: Rolling Stones, the who.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter.
1:30:49
SPEAKER_02: Guns N' Roses basically tours on appetite for destruction.
1:30:53
SPEAKER_02: Sure, U2.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_02: Has U2 had a successful thing since... I don't know, the...
1:31:03
SPEAKER_02: or something like that.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_02: That's, that's probably the last one.
1:31:08
SPEAKER_02: feeling better with the real thing or whatever.
1:31:11
SPEAKER_02: Have they had a song that anybody remembers after that?
1:31:14
SPEAKER_02: Then, you know, Apple forced the download of that crap ass.
1:31:21
SPEAKER_02: Terrible how to dismantle a bomb or something.
1:31:24
SPEAKER_02: Onto your phone.
1:31:25
SPEAKER_02: It looks like some guy giving another guy a blow job on the cover.
1:31:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:31:30
SPEAKER_02: And nobody could figure out how to get it off their phone.
1:31:32
SPEAKER_02: I know.
1:31:33
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, get this off my phone.
1:31:35
SPEAKER_02: God damn it.
1:31:37
SPEAKER_02: How did this get to my music files?
1:31:39
SPEAKER_02: Why are you wasting my valuable space?
1:31:43
Remember back then we were all rocking like eight gig hard
1:31:46
drives or something too
1:31:48
SPEAKER_02: on our phones.
1:31:49
SPEAKER_02: That one album was like a tenth of it.
1:31:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:31:52
SPEAKER_02: It's like I couldn't figure out how to get that off my phone fast enough.
1:31:57
SPEAKER_02: It's like, get this off my phone.
1:31:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:32:01
i remember deleting it and then it came back because you didn't
1:32:04
sync it with your
1:32:06
itunes or whatever like i deleted it directly on my phone and
1:32:10
like a day later i
1:32:11
went there it was again on my phone i was like what the fuck
1:32:15
i'm gonna have to drop
1:32:16
apple over this right you made me have this crappy youtube
1:32:21
album on my yeah
1:32:25
What's funny is if that happened today,
1:32:28
I don't think I'd even give a shit.
1:32:32
SPEAKER_02: I just would be like, yeah, I'm just not going to play that.
1:32:34
SPEAKER_02: You know, I wouldn't care at all.
1:32:36
SPEAKER_02: Back then it was world war three.
1:32:40
SPEAKER_02: Back then it was, fuck Apple, these cocks suck.
1:32:43
SPEAKER_02: How dare they push this music on?
1:32:46
SPEAKER_02: It was like, who cares?
1:32:48
SPEAKER_02: The worst for me was I was even sort of a U2 fan.
1:32:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:32:52
SPEAKER_02: So why was I upset about this thing?
1:32:55
SPEAKER_02: But I was.
1:32:56
SPEAKER_02: I know I was.
1:32:57
SPEAKER_02: I was angry.
1:32:58
SPEAKER_02: I was like, get this shit off my phone.
1:33:01
SPEAKER_02: You know?
1:33:04
SPEAKER_02: I mean, my interest in U2 basically ended at Joshua Tree.
1:33:11
i liked the one after it the octune baby i thought was pretty
1:33:15
good and i liked what
1:33:19
zoo zoo ropa was okay it had fly on it which was okay it had
1:33:24
like one or two but
1:33:25
after that zoo ropa is where it really started getting artsy
1:33:30
yeah like they were
1:33:31
SPEAKER_02: kind of like a
1:33:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a big fan of Irish music,
1:33:37
which probably explains why I'm not a big fan of Thin Lizzy and
1:33:40
the bands I'm
1:33:41
SPEAKER_02: supposed to like as a metalhead,
1:33:43
SPEAKER_02: but I just don't like that sound.
1:33:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what you call that sound, but that...
1:33:49
poor man's pub sound is what i guess i'd call it okay and you
1:33:54
too was like the one
1:33:56
band that i sort of was into for for a while but man once bono
1:34:02
got full of bono it
1:34:03
SPEAKER_02: was over it was just like i can't stand this fucking guy anymore
1:34:08
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:34:08
SPEAKER_02: they might even still have good songs now,
1:34:11
SPEAKER_02: but I just don't listen to the records at all because I can't stand Bono.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_02: I just can't stand even looking at him with his smug.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_02: You are the problem with using too much oil and gas.
1:34:22
SPEAKER_02: Now let me get on my private plane and fly around the world.
1:34:25
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:34:26
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you, Bono.
1:34:28
SPEAKER_02: Dickhead.
1:34:29
SPEAKER_02: Row a boat, you asshole.
1:34:36
SPEAKER_02: Well,
1:34:39
SPEAKER_02: If you want to go see Motley and see, uh, Vince being solid and bad-ass.
1:34:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:34:44
SPEAKER_02: Solid and bad-ass.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_02: The, uh, carnival sins tour is returning.
1:34:49
As I said,
1:34:49
it,
1:34:50
uh,
1:34:50
launches,
1:34:51
uh,
1:34:52
July 17th and it runs all the way through,
1:34:54
uh,
1:34:55
September 26th.
1:34:58
SPEAKER_02: Can't wait to not be there.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_02: They got about two, two months worth of tour dates, uh, going on there.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_02: cannot wait.
1:35:08
So if you want to see all the festivities of all the excitement
1:35:12
on the stage and
1:35:13
SPEAKER_02: the circus performers and the fire breathers and crazy shit,
1:35:19
SPEAKER_02: let me ask you this question.
1:35:21
Unless we bring it to this show,
1:35:24
will you even watch a YouTube video of this?
1:35:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh,
1:35:30
i mean i would watch it if it if we pulled it up on the show
1:35:34
like you said but
1:35:35
would i go look it out no yeah would you even out of curiosity
1:35:40
let's see what
1:35:40
they're doing me either i got zero interest in this just none i
1:35:46
i would like chat
1:35:48
SPEAKER_02: room if you guys could
1:35:50
change direction from talking about God knows what you're
1:35:52
talking about for one second.
1:35:55
Do any of you have even remote interest to seeing what this
1:36:00
would be about?
1:36:01
SPEAKER_02: not necessarily going, just pulling it up on YouTube.
1:36:05
SPEAKER_02: Once the tour starts to see, yeah, let's see what the carnival is too.
1:36:08
SPEAKER_02: Looks like, let's see how crazy shit looks on stage.
1:36:12
Let's see if it's as bad-ass and solid as Nikki said,
1:36:15
do you have that guys?
1:36:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm,
1:36:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm very curious if our chat room,
1:36:21
because our chat room tends to like some of this bullshit that
1:36:25
me and you don't
1:36:25
SPEAKER_02: like,
1:36:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm always curious to hear what they think,
1:36:29
SPEAKER_02: but,
1:36:30
so far no no no no fuck no well let's let's see what tickets
1:36:43
for this thing run all
1:36:44
right um let's let's go ahead and pull up the show uh that's in
1:36:51
cuyahoga falls okay
1:36:53
SPEAKER_02: pulling that up right now looking at the old ticket master
1:36:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh,
1:36:59
SPEAKER_02: well,
1:37:00
SPEAKER_02: it looks like,
1:37:01
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:37:01
SPEAKER_02: you can get a standard lawn seat,
1:37:04
SPEAKER_02: adult lawn seat for 50,
1:37:07
SPEAKER_02: for 50 bucks.
1:37:09
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:37:09
SPEAKER_01: So a bad seat where you can't hear is only 50.
1:37:12
SPEAKER_02: So 50 bucks.
1:37:14
SPEAKER_02: Then let's see.
1:37:16
SPEAKER_02: Section 32.
1:37:18
SPEAKER_02: You're in, you're in the top half of the seating.
1:37:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you can get a seat for 101 bucks.
1:37:24
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_02: And that's barely off the lawn.
1:37:32
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:37:32
SPEAKER_02: Correct.
1:37:35
SPEAKER_01: Damn.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh,
1:37:37
SPEAKER_02: then if you want to get up close and personal up in the,
1:37:41
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:37:42
SPEAKER_02: mid section,
1:37:43
SPEAKER_02: right up by the stage,
1:37:45
SPEAKER_02: that will cost you a paltry $409.
1:37:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh my God.
1:37:48
SPEAKER_02: And that's ticket $409.
1:37:56
and currently uh there are 92 tickets available in that center
1:38:02
section right in
1:38:04
front of the stage oh my for 409 i can't even fathom spending
1:38:11
that kind of money
1:38:17
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slash cms I can't fathom spending that kind of money to see a
1:38:44
band I actually want
1:38:45
SPEAKER_02: to see.
1:38:47
SPEAKER_02: And then the rest of the seating,
1:38:50
SPEAKER_02: all the tickets out there,
1:38:51
and there's plenty of tickets available in that first section
1:38:56
of seating right up
1:38:59
SPEAKER_02: by the stage.
1:39:00
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:39:02
SPEAKER_02: It looks like they all go for the same price at $244.50.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_02: It's a steal at any price.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_02: So to move up about 10 to 15 seats will cost you almost double.
1:39:18
SPEAKER_02: 30 feet will cost you $200.
1:39:24
$244 to sit in that second section,
1:39:26
but $409 to sit up right by the stage.
1:39:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh, boy.
1:39:32
SPEAKER_02: That is brutal.
1:39:33
Let me put this on the screen so people can see that we're not
1:39:37
just talking shit here.
1:39:41
SPEAKER_02: So here's the $100 ones in Section 32.
1:39:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:39:45
SPEAKER_02: And then you said, what, $24?
1:39:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, $244.
1:39:47
SPEAKER_02: $244.
1:39:47
SPEAKER_02: And then $409.30.
1:39:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:39:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, you could sit on the sides in the front for only $244.
1:39:53
SPEAKER_02: Look at that.
1:39:54
SPEAKER_02: That's how many feet from here?
1:39:57
SPEAKER_02: Six?
1:40:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:40:07
SPEAKER_02: Six feet away, you can save $200.
1:40:12
SPEAKER_02: It's still not worth $244.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_02: $244 is a lot for a concert ticket.
1:40:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's just for you.
1:40:20
SPEAKER_02: Just one.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_02: So if you end up taking your check, that's $500.
1:40:23
SPEAKER_02: That's $500 plus.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_02: Then you got drinks and parking and all that other shit.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, at least at Blossom, you don't have to pay to park.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:40:34
SPEAKER_02: Of course,
1:40:34
SPEAKER_02: you got to walk six miles to get in from the parking lot,
1:40:37
SPEAKER_02: but at least you don't have to park.
1:40:40
So if you and your chick want to go see Motley Crue and you
1:40:43
want fairly decent
1:40:45
SPEAKER_02: seats up near the stage,
1:40:47
SPEAKER_02: it's a minimum of $500.
1:40:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:40:48
SPEAKER_02: Bare minimum.
1:40:53
SPEAKER_02: Realistic, $750.
1:40:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:40:57
thousand if you're doing dinner i guess if you're going to one
1:41:01
show in the summer
1:41:02
that would be okay yes i suppose if that's your one big night
1:41:09
out yeah good lord
1:41:14
409 a ticket and that's ticket master that's not even the
1:41:18
resale business so if you
1:41:21
SPEAKER_02: if you uh
1:41:23
want to take your check and you want to be in section 13 in
1:41:27
front of the stage.
1:41:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:41:29
SPEAKER_02: That's a, that's a grand.
1:41:30
SPEAKER_02: It's a grand.
1:41:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:41:33
SPEAKER_02: But you get to,
1:41:35
you get close enough to see Tommy's fake Dick and it's an
1:41:39
attraction and you can,
1:41:41
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:41:41
SPEAKER_02: see if,
1:41:42
SPEAKER_02: uh,
1:41:43
SPEAKER_02: Vince is actually lip syncing.
1:41:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't think you, I think you can see that from YouTube for nothing.
1:41:51
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:41:53
oh man what a rip off this is holy cow once again the carnival
1:41:59
of sting that's what
1:42:02
it is the carnival of sting just terrible well get them while
1:42:08
they're hot i gotta
1:42:09
feel you'll be able to get those damn show yeah how long before
1:42:13
the groupon starts
1:42:14
SPEAKER_02: on this seriously christmas groupon maybe
1:42:22
This thing is not going to,
1:42:23
they are not going to sell 25% of this by Christmas.
1:42:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:42:28
SPEAKER_02: Well,
1:42:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
1:42:29
SPEAKER_02: you could just scan,
1:42:31
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:42:31
SPEAKER_02: when you're putting your mouse over those sections,
1:42:33
SPEAKER_02: you can see how many tickets are available in each section.
1:42:37
SPEAKER_02: Look at how many people bought these $400 tickets.
1:42:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:42:41
SPEAKER_02: Fucking idiots.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_02: Now you fucking dummies deserve what you get.
1:42:47
SPEAKER_02: What do those pink tickets go for?
1:42:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, look at this.
1:42:51
SPEAKER_02: This is only $11.67.
1:42:53
SPEAKER_02: These?
1:42:58
SPEAKER_02: $5,063.40.
1:42:59
SPEAKER_02: Five grand.
1:43:04
SPEAKER_02: That's a resale ticket, though.
1:43:07
SPEAKER_02: Meaning that somebody bought it and they're reselling it.
1:43:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:43:12
SPEAKER_02: Only $5,000 for these four.
1:43:16
SPEAKER_02: It's front row, Neely.
1:43:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:43:18
SPEAKER_02: Got to be there.
1:43:19
SPEAKER_02: Got to see it.
1:43:21
SPEAKER_02: Look, I could save $4,000 by just going one row back.
1:43:25
SPEAKER_02: It's great.
1:43:25
SPEAKER_02: How much are these starred ones?
1:43:28
SPEAKER_02: These are only, look, these are only 2,074.
1:43:29
SPEAKER_02: The freak show package.
1:43:35
SPEAKER_02: The center of house facing stage with the freak show, 2,000 bucks.
1:43:42
SPEAKER_02: Bet you can't wait to see that, can you?
1:43:44
SPEAKER_02: I know.
1:43:45
SPEAKER_02: What all do you get on that?
1:43:46
SPEAKER_02: Where's the freak show package?
1:43:49
SPEAKER_02: Information.
1:43:51
SPEAKER_02: First five rows,
1:43:53
SPEAKER_02: one tick in the first five rows,
1:43:54
SPEAKER_02: individual photograph with the members of Motley Crue,
1:43:58
SPEAKER_02: exclusive Carnival of Sin's 20th anniversary laminant,
1:44:03
SPEAKER_02: early entry,
1:44:04
SPEAKER_02: crowd-free pre-show merchandise shopping.
1:44:07
SPEAKER_02: How is that a perk?
1:44:09
SPEAKER_02: That's not a perk.
1:44:12
How many times have you gone to buy a shirt and it was a hassle
1:44:17
to get a shirt?
1:44:17
SPEAKER_02: Never.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_02: Never.
1:44:21
SPEAKER_02: Should have been here in the pre-show.
1:44:22
SPEAKER_02: We had those shirts.
1:44:23
SPEAKER_02: Now that we're out.
1:44:25
SPEAKER_02: I've never heard that yet.
1:44:28
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
1:44:28
SPEAKER_02: What else do you get here?
1:44:30
SPEAKER_02: Custom Carnival of Sins leather wristband set, Neely.
1:44:35
SPEAKER_02: Hand-stitched and stamped with the iconic pentagram and tour year.
1:44:41
SPEAKER_02: Great.
1:44:42
SPEAKER_02: Vintage tour poster reprints.
1:44:45
SPEAKER_02: A collector's set of Carnival of Sins poster art from 2006.
1:44:50
SPEAKER_02: Reimagined for the 20th anniversary.
1:44:53
SPEAKER_02: Premium VIP.
1:44:55
SPEAKER_02: Now this is a big one.
1:44:57
SPEAKER_02: Premium VIP Carnival of Sins trucker hat.
1:45:03
SPEAKER_02: Can't wait.
1:45:04
SPEAKER_02: A trucker hat.
1:45:06
SPEAKER_02: A trucker hat.
1:45:08
SPEAKER_00: Why?
1:45:08
SPEAKER_02: Because apparently to afford this,
1:45:10
you're going to have to drive from this city to the next one
1:45:12
with their truck.
1:45:14
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:45:16
SPEAKER_02: Let's see what some of these other ones have.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_02: The Sinister Sideshow Package.
1:45:22
SPEAKER_02: Looks like it's all the same shit.
1:45:25
SPEAKER_02: It's all the same junk.
1:45:28
let's get the extreme experience oh the extreme meet and greet
1:45:32
wonder how much that
1:45:33
costs sinister where's the extreme meet and greet they probably
1:45:39
don't get tickets
1:45:41
one premium ticket meet and greet with extreme photo
1:45:45
opportunity with extreme one
1:45:46
VIP exclusive extreme merch item one commemorative laminate but
1:45:53
where are the seats
1:45:56
SPEAKER_02: Let's uncheck everything but those apply filters.
1:46:03
SPEAKER_02: God, those are $500 to meet extreme.
1:46:07
SPEAKER_02: You get to say, Hey to Paul Gilbert.
1:46:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:46:11
SPEAKER_02: Those aren't even in the, in the lower section.
1:46:13
SPEAKER_02: Those are, those are up top somewhere.
1:46:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:46:17
SPEAKER_02: I can't move.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_02: I want to let me move.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_02: Won't let me move.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_02: There we go.
1:46:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh, these are up here.
1:46:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, look at that.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_02: You get to sit in the middle.
1:46:30
SPEAKER_02: For 500 bucks?
1:46:31
SPEAKER_02: For 500 bucks.
1:46:33
SPEAKER_02: You don't even get to sit in the first section.
1:46:36
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
1:46:39
SPEAKER_02: What a joke.
1:46:40
SPEAKER_02: Are you kidding me?
1:46:40
SPEAKER_02: You get to go say hi to Gary Cherone.
1:46:44
SPEAKER_02: Great.
1:46:46
SPEAKER_02: Even though you can't see him from where you're sitting.
1:46:52
SPEAKER_02: What a ripoff.
1:46:53
SPEAKER_02: Holy cow.
1:46:56
right i'm not being crazy here this is a total ripoff right
1:46:59
yeah this is extremely
1:47:02
stupid god well you know whether it's this or any one of these
1:47:08
other ridiculous uh
1:47:10
SPEAKER_02: shows out there with with the prices the cost
1:47:16
SPEAKER_02: I never thought at any point,
1:47:17
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:47:18
SPEAKER_02: when we were buying tickets,
1:47:20
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:47:21
SPEAKER_02: we talked about this a week or so ago where,
1:47:23
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:47:24
SPEAKER_02: it was a ritual to get up and get,
1:47:26
SPEAKER_02: get to the ticket master early.
1:47:28
SPEAKER_02: So, so as they open, you get your ticket.
1:47:32
And you know,
1:47:33
you spent 10,
1:47:36
15,
1:47:36
maybe even $25 on a ticket and got like front row seats.
1:47:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:47:41
SPEAKER_02: Now all those,
1:47:42
all those front row seats at the same shows that we went to in
1:47:45
the eighties,
1:47:46
SPEAKER_02: there are thousands of dollars,
1:47:47
SPEAKER_02: $5,000.
1:47:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:47:48
SPEAKER_02: Thousands of dollars.
1:47:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:47:53
The same tickets we used to get by showing up at Ticketmaster
1:47:57
early and being the
1:47:58
SPEAKER_00: first in line.
1:48:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, now nothing.
1:48:02
SPEAKER_02: Now if you get there at 10.01 on your computer,
1:48:05
SPEAKER_02: you're going to be told,
1:48:06
SPEAKER_02: well,
1:48:07
SPEAKER_02: due to increased demand,
1:48:08
SPEAKER_02: your tickets are $8,000.
1:48:14
SPEAKER_02: No thanks.
1:48:16
SPEAKER_02: If your phone rings, pick it up.
1:48:19
which one the uh the studio line yeah all right so the next
1:48:25
minute but yeah okay
1:48:29
well i will not be going to the carnival sins tour i will not
1:48:33
be going either
1:48:37
SPEAKER_02: So I was looking forward to it, but I have like that guy in St.
1:48:44
SPEAKER_02: Louis.
1:48:44
SPEAKER_02: That sounds like a lot of fun.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_02: Sounds great.
1:48:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go.
1:48:49
SPEAKER_02: I can't wait for that.
1:48:50
SPEAKER_02: I've got, I want to see the yeasty girls, the yeasty girls.
1:48:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:48:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:48:54
SPEAKER_02: That sounds like a great time.
1:48:56
SPEAKER_02: Wonderful.
1:48:57
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:49:00
SPEAKER_02: Hail and kill caller.
1:49:01
SPEAKER_02: You're on the air.
1:49:02
SPEAKER_03: What's going on, Neely?
1:49:04
SPEAKER_03: How are you?
1:49:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm well.
1:49:06
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's good to hear.
1:49:07
SPEAKER_03: You know who this is?
1:49:08
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't.
1:49:09
SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
1:49:11
SPEAKER_03: Let's go back about 20 years.
1:49:13
SPEAKER_03: We used to work together.
1:49:15
SPEAKER_02: Do what?
1:49:16
SPEAKER_02: I said, let's go back about 20 years ago, maybe 30 years ago.
1:49:21
SPEAKER_02: We used to work together at the high school radio station.
1:49:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh, is this John?
1:49:25
SPEAKER_02: It is.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_02: Hey, what's up, John?
1:49:28
SPEAKER_02: Not much.
1:49:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm on the call and complain about it.
1:49:30
SPEAKER_02: She thinks she has a few minutes.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you want to complain?
1:49:33
SPEAKER_02: Did you check in with the complaint department?
1:49:37
SPEAKER_02: He did.
1:49:37
SPEAKER_02: That was me.
1:49:38
SPEAKER_02: I did.
1:49:38
SPEAKER_02: I talked to Chris a few days ago via text messaging.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_03: And I said,
1:49:43
SPEAKER_03: I've had a few things on my chest over the last couple of years,
1:49:47
SPEAKER_03: and I think I'm probably ready to get it all set.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_02: You've allowed something to fester for years?
1:49:52
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:49:54
SPEAKER_03: I have,
1:49:54
SPEAKER_03: and I always try to play the calm,
1:49:56
SPEAKER_03: cool,
1:49:57
SPEAKER_03: collected,
1:49:57
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:49:59
SPEAKER_03: and not get upset over stuff that I can't control,
1:50:02
but it just has gotten to the point where I just can't fucking
1:50:05
handle it anymore.
1:50:06
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:50:07
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:50:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, unleash, John.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_02: Unleash.
1:50:11
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:50:11
SPEAKER_02: My first issue that I have is,
1:50:13
SPEAKER_03: since you guys have talked about ticket prices,
1:50:17
SPEAKER_03: is actual contract ticket prices.
1:50:19
SPEAKER_03: Now, I get, and I understand inflation, but
1:50:21
SPEAKER_03: I understand all that good jazz and I understand that,
1:50:24
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:50:25
SPEAKER_03: cost of production of shows and this,
1:50:27
SPEAKER_03: that,
1:50:28
SPEAKER_03: and the third,
1:50:28
SPEAKER_03: so prices go up or whatever.
1:50:31
SPEAKER_03: So,
1:50:31
SPEAKER_03: um,
1:50:32
SPEAKER_03: a friend of mine wanted to take his son to see,
1:50:35
SPEAKER_03: um,
1:50:35
SPEAKER_03: his first concert,
1:50:36
SPEAKER_03: which was nine inch nails.
1:50:38
SPEAKER_03: Um, this past summer, I think it was that rocket mortgage.
1:50:42
SPEAKER_03: I think it was called.
1:50:43
SPEAKER_03: So anyways, um,
1:50:48
SPEAKER_03: the tickets that he was looking at were like $300 a pop.
1:50:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:50:53
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like,
1:50:54
I can remember going to Blossom and paying like $20 for four
1:50:59
tickets to send Milan.
1:51:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, how do we go from like that to $300 a ticket?
1:51:04
So I told myself in all the years that I've been in the music
1:51:08
industry that I would
1:51:09
SPEAKER_03: never be that guy that would call somebody that I know and say,
1:51:13
SPEAKER_03: hey,
1:51:14
SPEAKER_03: I need a favor from you.
1:51:17
SPEAKER_03: So I ended up doing that.
1:51:18
SPEAKER_03: I called a friend of mine.
1:51:19
SPEAKER_03: I said, hey, he wants to take his son to see his first concert.
1:51:22
SPEAKER_03: Is there any way that you can hook them up with tickets?
1:51:25
SPEAKER_03: I'm not asking you to have them front row or anything like that.
1:51:29
Just something where they both can sit down and enjoy the show
1:51:32
together,
1:51:32
right?
1:51:33
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I'll take care of that, no problem.
1:51:35
SPEAKER_03: The tickets were still like $100 a pop.
1:51:40
SPEAKER_03: I don't understand how they expect fans to go to all these shows
1:51:46
and you know they're hundreds and hundreds of dollars you know
1:51:50
a ticket yeah and
1:51:52
then you got to include parking and then you can get food and
1:51:55
before you know
1:51:56
you're spending like a thousand dollars before the night's
1:51:58
running over yeah a
1:52:00
grand a grand to go see two hours worth of band you know and
1:52:06
and i've always
1:52:06
enjoyed going to see you know local fans play before i go see
1:52:10
national acts play
1:52:12
And for one of the main reasons is because you could spend 20
1:52:15
bucks and go see a
1:52:16
SPEAKER_03: local band play.
1:52:17
SPEAKER_03: And you know that band is getting that 20 bucks for the most part.
1:52:20
SPEAKER_03: You know where the $300 tickets, you don't know where that money's going.
1:52:24
SPEAKER_03: You know it's going to the promoter.
1:52:26
SPEAKER_03: You know it's going this way and that way and blah, blah, blah, blah.
1:52:30
SPEAKER_03: But it's like $300 a ticket is just outrageous.
1:52:32
Like a friend of mine wanted to take their daughter to go see
1:52:35
Taylor Swift.
1:52:36
SPEAKER_03: She was like, oh, I bet your tickets are pretty cheap.
1:52:38
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, yeah, right.
1:52:43
So now my next one I want to have a little gripe book is the
1:52:50
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
1:52:53
I have for years defended the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for
1:52:58
including rap artists,
1:53:00
SPEAKER_03: anybody but rock and roll artists into the Hall of Fame.
1:53:03
SPEAKER_03: If they deserve to be in the Hall of Fame,
1:53:05
SPEAKER_03: they should be in the Hall of Fame.
1:53:08
SPEAKER_03: My issue is,
1:53:09
SPEAKER_03: and I'm not even a big fan of this band,
1:53:11
SPEAKER_03: how the fuck does somebody like LL Cool J or Eminem,
1:53:15
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:53:16
SPEAKER_03: get into the Rock of the Hall of Fame before Iron Maning does?
1:53:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, you can thank Rolling Stone and Jan Winter for that.
1:53:26
SPEAKER_02: It's a politically correct thing.
1:53:32
So if you're not a Rolling Stone darling or you're not friends
1:53:37
with the...
1:53:38
SPEAKER_02: I know this Jan,
1:53:39
SPEAKER_02: I think he's out of it now,
1:53:41
SPEAKER_02: but that Jan Wenner,
1:53:42
SPEAKER_02: he more or less called the shots for all that.
1:53:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at the band Chicago.
1:53:49
It took them forever to get in,
1:53:51
and they only got in as they were voted in by the fans.
1:53:58
SPEAKER_03: Well, they should have been in no matter what.
1:53:59
SPEAKER_03: There's a certain band that should just automatically get in.
1:54:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and look at what happened to Judas Priest.
1:54:07
SPEAKER_02: They're not...
1:54:08
SPEAKER_02: Was that the one, Chris?
1:54:10
SPEAKER_02: They're in, but they got in on like the fan vote or something.
1:54:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they got in as a... It wasn't, they didn't get in for merit.
1:54:20
SPEAKER_02: They got in because the fans voted for them or something.
1:54:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something to that effect.
1:54:24
SPEAKER_02: And it's like, that's not right.
1:54:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
1:54:27
SPEAKER_03: and I'm a huge Soundgarden fan,
1:54:29
SPEAKER_03: but I'm like,
1:54:30
SPEAKER_03: how does Soundgarden get in before Iron Man does?
1:54:33
SPEAKER_03: And again, I'm not a huge Iron Man fan.
1:54:36
SPEAKER_03: But you've got to give credit where credit is due.
1:54:38
SPEAKER_03: They deserve to be in.
1:54:39
SPEAKER_03: So I've always said, now I don't defend the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
1:54:43
SPEAKER_03: Now I say, just take the Rock and Roll part of it out.
1:54:46
SPEAKER_03: Just put in Hall of Fame.
1:54:49
SPEAKER_02: Cutting edge, John.
1:54:50
SPEAKER_02: Cutting edge.
1:54:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry if you're thinking logically here.
1:54:56
It just should be the Music Hall of Fame if they're just going
1:54:59
to have everybody
1:55:00
SPEAKER_02: and their brother in there.
1:55:01
SPEAKER_02: It should just be pushed into the league and forgotten about.
1:55:05
SPEAKER_03: It's no different than,
1:55:07
SPEAKER_03: like,
1:55:07
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:55:07
SPEAKER_03: back in the days when you would go to a record store in the mall.
1:55:10
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I'm showing my age.
1:55:12
SPEAKER_03: But, you know, they would have all the junior sections or whatever.
1:55:15
And I'm like,
1:55:16
well,
1:55:16
you know,
1:55:17
Chris might think this band is,
1:55:18
you know,
1:55:19
rock and roll.
1:55:20
SPEAKER_03: I might think they're metal.
1:55:21
SPEAKER_03: You know, Neely might think they're whatever, you know.
1:55:24
SPEAKER_03: Why can't we just put them all in alphabetical order?
1:55:26
SPEAKER_03: Here's the A section.
1:55:27
SPEAKER_03: Here's the B section.
1:55:28
SPEAKER_03: Here's the C section.
1:55:29
SPEAKER_03: Go into the store and say, hey, I want the Cinderella's newest album.
1:55:34
SPEAKER_03: Okay,
1:55:34
SPEAKER_03: then I can just go on to the C-section,
1:55:36
SPEAKER_03: grab Cinderella,
1:55:37
SPEAKER_03: go and pay for it,
1:55:38
SPEAKER_03: get the heck out of the store,
1:55:39
SPEAKER_03: and get done and over with.
1:55:40
SPEAKER_03: You know,
1:55:41
SPEAKER_03: instead of going,
1:55:41
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:55:42
SPEAKER_03: what album's in the pop section,
1:55:44
SPEAKER_03: what album's in the,
1:55:45
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:55:45
SPEAKER_03: rock section,
1:55:46
SPEAKER_03: what album's in this section.
1:55:48
SPEAKER_03: And it's like, I just get tired and frustrated with that.
1:55:51
SPEAKER_03: Like,
1:55:51
SPEAKER_03: just get rid of it,
1:55:52
SPEAKER_03: put it all in one,
1:55:53
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:55:53
SPEAKER_03: alphabetical order,
1:55:54
SPEAKER_03: and just go from there.
1:55:57
SPEAKER_03: And then my last one is, since you mentioned this,
1:56:01
is,
1:56:01
um,
1:56:02
these magazine publications like,
1:56:05
um,
1:56:06
you know,
1:56:07
um,
1:56:07
like,
1:56:08
um,
1:56:08
what was it?
1:56:10
SPEAKER_03: So they'll put out like their top,
1:56:12
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:56:12
SPEAKER_03: 50 artists or slash,
1:56:14
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:56:14
SPEAKER_03: 50 bands or the top drummers or top guitar players and blah,
1:56:19
SPEAKER_03: blah,
1:56:19
SPEAKER_03: blah,
1:56:19
SPEAKER_03: blah.
1:56:20
SPEAKER_03: Why is Prince never mentioned in any of these publications?
1:56:26
SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't care if you like Prince or not.
1:56:29
SPEAKER_03: In my opinion, um,
1:56:31
SPEAKER_03: Prince is probably one of the greatest musicians of my lifetime.
1:56:36
SPEAKER_03: Especially as a guitar player.
1:56:39
SPEAKER_02: I would put him top ten anyway, guitar players, if not top five.
1:56:43
SPEAKER_02: He's one of the best ever.
1:56:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean, how does a band Oasis get listed as...
1:56:49
in the top 15 of all time bad but like prince isn't even in the
1:56:53
top 50 because
1:56:54
prince didn't stay to one style prince did rock he did r&b did
1:56:59
hip-hop and prince
1:57:00
also was anti anti-establishment i mean the whole changing his
1:57:05
name to the artist
1:57:07
formerly known as was in dispute with the industry yeah he's he
1:57:12
was anti-corporate
1:57:13
SPEAKER_03: yeah so he's also the one that was like behind the whole like
1:57:18
They wanted to sell,
1:57:19
like,
1:57:19
one of his albums at $9.99 or something like that.
1:57:22
SPEAKER_03: He was like, you know, F that.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_03: We're not doing that.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to release it if you're going to.
1:57:27
SPEAKER_03: Or am I taking this from other artists?
1:57:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:57:30
SPEAKER_03: So, I don't know.
1:57:32
Those are just a couple of things that I've had in my mind for
1:57:35
the last couple of years.
1:57:36
And I forget that's no better place to get it off my chest than
1:57:39
your guys' show.
1:57:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm glad we could be your therapy session for you there, John.
1:57:44
SPEAKER_02: We'll talk to you again in 20 years, John.
1:57:50
All right,
1:57:51
well,
1:57:51
I appreciate you guys doing the job that you do,
1:57:53
and fuck the talent,
1:57:54
handjob.
1:57:56
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:57:56
SPEAKER_02: There he goes.
1:57:56
SPEAKER_02: There goes John Darless.
1:57:58
SPEAKER_02: There goes John Darless.
1:57:59
SPEAKER_02: Check it out.
1:58:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:58:01
SPEAKER_02: He was my,
1:58:02
he kind of worked kind of a little bit like an intern assistant
1:58:06
with me when I
1:58:08
SPEAKER_02: started the classic metal show.
1:58:09
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so many years ago.
1:58:11
SPEAKER_02: So John's still out there kicking around, still listening to the show.
1:58:16
SPEAKER_02: And we appreciate it, John.
1:58:17
SPEAKER_02: What's weird is I've never met John in person.
1:58:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:58:21
SPEAKER_02: He and I text at least three times a week.
1:58:29
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uh,
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so i can prove that there was no goodness fake huh fake yes sir
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okay all right i
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got it got her pulled up all right all right well here's some
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I remember most about that movie?
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SPEAKER_02: How crappy the movie was.
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Dude,
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I remember that movie more than just about anything from the
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early 90s.
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And I only remember this because it's going to show what a
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fucking pussy whip fag I was.
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SPEAKER_02: I snuck out of a day's work to go see this movie.
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SPEAKER_02: And what do you think drove you to do that?
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SPEAKER_02: I know it did.
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SPEAKER_02: A, I was a huge fan of the Arnold movies in the late 80s and 90s.
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SPEAKER_02: So you thought this was going to be a good Arnold movie?
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SPEAKER_02: I thought it was going to be good.
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SPEAKER_02: Plus the soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_02: The soundtrack was great.
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SPEAKER_02: From the Bill and Ted Bogus Journey soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a contribution from Winger with Battle Stations.
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SPEAKER_02: That one going out by request to Electric Fence.
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We heard Infectious Grooves in there with Violin and Funky for
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Winter Steel.
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SPEAKER_02: Voodoo Johnson with Bad Habit for Skippy.
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and new testament there from the parabellum release with room
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set 117 for scarfoot
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and kicking off that block judas priest with hot rocking for t
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cuz brah well there
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you go yeah so nice uh nice upbeat uh grouping of songs did you
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like that winger
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song when it came out i did not i didn't hate it right now but
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i remember when it
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SPEAKER_02: came out i was like man
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SPEAKER_02: This is very cheesy from this band.
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SPEAKER_02: Well,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: that,
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SPEAKER_02: that was the era where,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: these bands were contributing songs to soundtracks,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: remember,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: what was it?
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SPEAKER_02: Queensryche had a song.
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SPEAKER_02: What was it?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, Scarborough fair last time in Paris last time in Paris.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was one.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a good song.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I heard that today.
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SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, it was on one of my random play songs.
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SPEAKER_02: Good song.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
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yeah it was a different era with the with the soundtracks the
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soundtrack was a big
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deal back then it was as big a deal as an album it was
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absolutely you know i i look
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back uh yeah i know you saw the saw the same um documentary
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that uh that that what
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SPEAKER_02: was his name rob rob stigwood rob stigwood
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yeah from from he was uh the was he producer um back in the 70s
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like back in the
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SPEAKER_02: 70s soundtracks
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movie soundtracks was not a big deal right what was it was his
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name rob i think it
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was rob i don't know i'm lost on what you're talking about here
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but that doesn't
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mean anything well this was the era of greece and saturday
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night live and sure or
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not saturday night live but uh saturday night fever saturday
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night fever well at
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SPEAKER_02: the time there there didn't seem to be any um
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interest in like a a soundtrack for for the movies you know as
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far as like selling
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it as a as a record or a tape or anything and this this uh rob
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stickwood he
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capitalized on that and said okay well i think he made a deal
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with the the movie
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SPEAKER_02: company and said uh so you have no interest in the soundtracks
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SPEAKER_02: And they were just like, no, why, why do we care?
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SPEAKER_02: And he goes, well, I'm just going to take it then.
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SPEAKER_02: And they go have at it.
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And he marketed the soundtrack for Greece and he marketed the
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soundtrack for,
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uh,
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saturday night fever and and they became huge sure and that
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kind of uh kicked off
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that whole sound you know movie soundtrack selling it as a disc
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or a cd or you know
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that was tapes tapes and well that was usually how they
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announced the movies back
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in the 80s was with the soundtrack yeah but they they weren't
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selling it though
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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They incorporated it into the movie,
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but selling the...
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No,
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I'm saying in the 80s,
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not the 70s.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, no.
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I mean,
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even in the 80s,
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selling it later in the 80s,
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it became a thing to buy the soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: And because you got bonus tracks on there that these bands,
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SPEAKER_02: like we just said,
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SPEAKER_02: Winger,
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SPEAKER_02: Queensryche.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Megadeth, Faith No More, everybody was doing it.
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SPEAKER_02: They were all contributing, and you wouldn't get that song anywhere else.
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SPEAKER_02: They didn't typically add it to their album or anything like that.
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SPEAKER_02: It was just on the soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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So if you were one of those purists who had to have everything,
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your favorite band...
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did you would get soundtrack but the soundtrack was also a good
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compilation of a
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bunch of cool tunes sometimes sure a lot of times yeah but
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prior that that uh that
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stickwood guy he he kind of started that okay didn't know that
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because because
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SPEAKER_02: prior to you know uh greece and and uh saturday night fever uh
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nobody talked about soundtracks okay you know buying them and
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owning them or
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anything you know or playing them in the car with your eight
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track or whatever it
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was you know was the what was the first real big one i think
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greece was it greece
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or was it stars born that was pretty huge too that was about
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the same time no stars
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SPEAKER_02: born was before that stars born was no no greece was 78.
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SPEAKER_02: mm-hmm star is born
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, not the 2018 movie.
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SPEAKER_02: The good one.
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SPEAKER_02: Not 1954.
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SPEAKER_02: How come I can't find that movie?
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SPEAKER_01: 76.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: That was a big soundtrack, wasn't it?
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SPEAKER_02: Chris Christopherson and Barbara Streisand.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't recall, to be honest with you.
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SPEAKER_02: It could have been.
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SPEAKER_02: I just don't recall.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a big one in my house.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you that.
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SPEAKER_02: My dad and mom played the shit out of that thing.
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SPEAKER_02: I still know all the songs on that one.
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yeah but that that stickwood guy he he made his fortune on
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marketing you know and
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selling the the soundtracks okay you know as far as a
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compilation is concerned
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right and it was just he made a shit ton of money and the the
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uh movie studios they
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they didn't have any interest in it just like uh do do with it
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what you want
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when did it come back in the 80s would it be like footloose
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well it just it it
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started the popularity of of soundtracks started in the late
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70s and they really
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took off in the 80s okay and it seemed like everybody wanted to
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get their song on a
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SPEAKER_02: soundtrack because you know that paid some pretty good royalties sure
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Cause every time somebody watched that movie and that song or
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whatever popped up
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SPEAKER_02: there,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: what was another soundtrack that,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: was a big one was,
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SPEAKER_02: um,
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SPEAKER_02: uh,
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SPEAKER_02: vision quest vision quest.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I think that was Madonna had crazy for you on it.
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SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And journey had journey had the song on there.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, not ask the lonely, um, be good to yourself.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Be good to yourself.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: It starts the movie off when he's out there jogging across that bridge.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So things like that.
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i had a ton of soundtracks in my i i used to love soundtracks
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for me it's weird
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because i i do not like listening to just random music man if
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you gave me the right
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soundtrack back then i was in because it'd be like all my
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favorite bands on one
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record you know with stuff i didn't know right and it was cool
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like what was that i
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SPEAKER_02: can't think of what it was but it was the one with um
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might even have been the bill and ted with angry again and it
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had um um faith no
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more on it i think that might have been bill and ted's
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excellent adventure or bogus
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journey yeah that was a good and it had a kiss song on it too i
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think it had like
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god gave rock and roll to you or something right yeah that was
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a good one iron
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eagle people are saying i'm in the chat room iron eagle that
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was a good one too
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SPEAKER_02: with one vision
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SPEAKER_02: One Vision was on that from Queen.
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SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: Purple Rain, yes, that was a fucking killer soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, do we count that as a soundtrack, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Not just a Prince album?
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for nine for for uh purple rain purple rain that would be an
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album and a sound and
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a soundtrack yeah because it was all well it wasn't all one
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artist because uh the
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time was on no they're not on that album they're not their own
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album okay and with
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the with the do the bird or whatever that song was right
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everybody say what
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this Bill and Ted's bogus journey had slaughter was shouted out.
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SPEAKER_02: Winger battle stations, kiss.
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SPEAKER_02: God gave rock and roll to you.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, Richie Kotzen with a dream of a new day.
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SPEAKER_02: Steve Vai with the Reaper faith.
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SPEAKER_02: No more with the perfect crime.
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SPEAKER_02: Megadeth go to hell.
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SPEAKER_02: Primus with Tommy, the cat King's X with junior and gone wild.
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SPEAKER_02: And Steve Vai again, uh, the, the, the Reaper rap.
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the reaper rap yeah yeah i know i had that album anything that
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faith no more had i
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would have bought just like you were saying people that were
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completists back then
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if it had faith no more i had to have it because i was all in
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on faith no more at
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SPEAKER_02: that point
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: I remember,
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didn't Slaughter do like a giveaway that led into the video of
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that on MTV where
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they had like trucks and stuff of like gear that they took to
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somebody's house or
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SPEAKER_02: something?
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They did some sort of contest that culminated with them playing
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the video for Shout
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SPEAKER_02: It Out on MTV.
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SPEAKER_02: I do remember that.
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SPEAKER_02: Good times, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's when, you know, everything is just a trend.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: everything just kind of gets hot and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: everybody and their brother wants to be a part of it.
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SPEAKER_02: And then people lose interest in it after a while.
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SPEAKER_02: Now everybody's lost interest in everything.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, pretty much.
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SPEAKER_02: There's nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: There's nothing anybody's interested in now.
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SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: When do you think was the last...
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SPEAKER_02: good movie soundtrack that people would be interested in purchasing?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, boy.
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SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
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i personally loved this and i know it was a big seller i know
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our audience is going
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to be like you homo i don't care the uh 2018 star is born
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soundtrack okay lady gaga
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and um whatever the guy's name is there's a lot of good music
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on there it's not
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metal at all it's definitely all kind of you know acoustic
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guitar music and
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SPEAKER_02: keyboard
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music but if you like that stuff it's good as far as this
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audience somebody said in
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the chat room pulp fiction probably yeah that's that's got a
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lot of good songs on
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SPEAKER_02: there yeah and that forrest gump i know it's like 30 years ago but
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SPEAKER_02: I love the Forrest Gump soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_02: That's one of my favorite things of all time.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just a lot of good 70s music on it.
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Well,
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since we're on this subject here,
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top 10 best-selling soundtracks of all time.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's see here.
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SPEAKER_02: The Bodyguard, 1992.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was a big one.
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SPEAKER_02: Saturday night fever, which I mentioned.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I forgot about this one.
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SPEAKER_02: Dirty dancing.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I had, uh, Titanic from 97 Greece, which I mentioned from 78.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, I don't know this one at all as she.
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SPEAKER_02: Never heard of that.
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SPEAKER_02: Never heard of it.
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SPEAKER_02: 1990.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh,
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SPEAKER_02: Can't even pronounce this one.
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SPEAKER_02: It's some foreign purple rain, 1984 flash dance, 1983 flash dance.
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SPEAKER_02: I forgot about that.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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I,
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when I was working at the record store,
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we sold out of that every week for weeks on end.
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SPEAKER_01: She's a maniac, maniac.
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SPEAKER_02: Bombay, 95.
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SPEAKER_02: Not familiar with it.
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SPEAKER_02: The Lion King, 94.
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SPEAKER_02: I hated that record.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that had Elton John on it, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, can you feel the love tonight?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that one didn't sell because of the stars.
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SPEAKER_02: That sold because of...
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fucking the characters singing hakuna matata okay and that
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believe me but my kids
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were like three and four and what year was that 92 or three or
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something like that
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that was uh 94 yeah my kids were my my daughter was four my
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boys were two i heard
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SPEAKER_02: the lion king soundtrack every day for two goddamn years
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, here's a good game since we're talking about how popular they are.
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SPEAKER_02: How many copies should we go from 10 down to one?
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SPEAKER_02: One being the highest or the lowest?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, one being the highest.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Lion King is at number 10.
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SPEAKER_02: How many copies was sold?
2:17:20
SPEAKER_02: Five million.
2:17:22
SPEAKER_02: Triple that.
2:17:24
SPEAKER_02: 15 million?
2:17:25
SPEAKER_02: 15 million.
2:17:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we probably bought 10 of those myself.
2:17:30
SPEAKER_02: So just know that it goes up from here.
2:17:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay, from 15 million.
2:17:34
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
2:17:34
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:17:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:17:36
SPEAKER_02: The next one, again, I don't know this movie, Bombay.
2:17:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know it either, so I'll say 16 million.
2:17:44
SPEAKER_02: Nope, at 15.
2:17:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:17:47
SPEAKER_02: Flashdance.
2:17:51
SPEAKER_02: 20.
2:17:52
SPEAKER_02: Dead on, 20.
2:17:56
uh purple rain purple rain god it sold more than 20 million
2:18:00
copies wow i'm gonna
2:18:02
say it's so popular so good too 28 million no it it topped out
2:18:11
at 20 million as
2:18:12
well okay still so we're saying that like that's a low number
2:18:18
we could literally
2:18:19
SPEAKER_02: stack 20 bands together and not come up with that yeah exactly just for a
2:18:24
SPEAKER_02: soundtrack
2:18:27
SPEAKER_02: This movie, I can't even pronounce the wall.
2:18:30
SPEAKER_02: The love of blah, blah, blah.
2:18:32
SPEAKER_02: I have no idea what it is.
2:18:33
SPEAKER_01: 400 million.
2:18:34
SPEAKER_01: It to that 20 million.
2:18:35
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:18:41
um a chic a chic we a chic we i don't know what the chic we
2:18:48
yeah whatever that oh
2:18:50
yeah it's a it's at a a s h i q ui yeah 22 million nope 20
2:18:59
million all right all
2:19:02
SPEAKER_02: right now we're into the top five okay
2:19:07
SPEAKER_02: That was five.
2:19:10
SPEAKER_02: At number four, Grease.
2:19:13
SPEAKER_01: 25.
2:19:14
SPEAKER_02: A little higher.
2:19:20
SPEAKER_02: 27.
2:19:20
SPEAKER_02: Higher.
2:19:20
SPEAKER_02: 8?
2:19:22
SPEAKER_02: 28.
2:19:22
SPEAKER_02: 28.
2:19:22
SPEAKER_02: 28 million.
2:19:23
SPEAKER_02: I've owned that one several times.
2:19:24
SPEAKER_02: Do you own that?
2:19:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't own it.
2:19:26
SPEAKER_02: My sister had a copy of that.
2:19:29
SPEAKER_02: I still own a copy, but I owned it in cassette, album, and CD.
2:19:35
SPEAKER_02: CD.
2:19:37
all right uh titanic that was a biggie 33 well it's close 30 30
2:19:48
okay dirty dancing
2:19:52
SPEAKER_02: another big one say the same 32 32 okay
2:20:00
SPEAKER_02: Saturday Night Fever.
2:20:01
SPEAKER_02: 40.
2:20:01
SPEAKER_02: 40 is exactly what it is.
2:20:06
SPEAKER_02: And The Bodyguard.
2:20:08
SPEAKER_02: Bodyguard's number one.
2:20:10
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
2:20:15
SPEAKER_02: 50.
2:20:16
SPEAKER_02: Not quite.
2:20:16
SPEAKER_02: 45.
2:20:16
SPEAKER_02: 45.
2:20:17
SPEAKER_02: What was the big hit on that?
2:20:20
SPEAKER_02: I Will Always Love You.
2:20:21
SPEAKER_02: Is that right?
2:20:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so.
2:20:23
SPEAKER_02: That's the one.
2:20:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, wow.
2:20:31
SPEAKER_02: That is crazy.
2:20:32
SPEAKER_02: It's funny that none of the ones from the 80s made it.
2:20:36
SPEAKER_02: Like the Breakfast Club or,
2:20:39
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:20:40
SPEAKER_02: they all had soundtracks with like Depeche Mode and shit like that on it.
2:20:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know, but Dirty Dancing was 87.
2:20:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:20:48
I'm talking about the ones we just talked about,
2:20:50
Bill and Ted,
2:20:51
Vision Quest.
2:20:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:20:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, none of those made it.
2:20:55
SPEAKER_02: At least none of them made, what was the starting number, 15 million?
2:20:58
SPEAKER_02: I guess that's a lot.
2:20:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 15 million, yeah.
2:21:01
SPEAKER_02: You've got to think about the movie, too.
2:21:02
SPEAKER_02: None of those movies were that big.
2:21:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know those two movies that you read.
2:21:09
SPEAKER_02: I think those are Indian movies.
2:21:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm sure they were big movies.
2:21:16
SPEAKER_02: Every other movie you listed was a huge movie.
2:21:18
SPEAKER_02: It was like a number one summer blockbuster movie.
2:21:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, this has been fun.
2:21:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:21:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you never thought about it before.
2:21:30
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
2:21:36
just looking at this real quick here trying to get a little
2:21:46
more complete um
2:21:48
SPEAKER_02: listing of of soundtracks okay pop-up blocker
2:22:05
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:22:06
SPEAKER_02: Come on now.
2:22:07
SPEAKER_02: Come on, you piece of shit.
2:22:08
SPEAKER_02: The internet's acting very stupid.
2:22:10
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:22:16
SPEAKER_02: See where some of these fall into place here.
2:22:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't get this.
2:22:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't get this list at all.
2:22:25
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, just thought I'd bring that up.
2:22:29
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:22:30
SPEAKER_02: Interesting to say the least.
2:22:34
Yeah,
2:22:34
there's all kinds of different soundtracks out there
2:22:37
category-wise.
2:22:38
SPEAKER_02: The best soul movie soundtrack, top 75 movie songs of all time.
2:22:44
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
2:22:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, stuff like that.
2:22:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure a bunch of that is a bunch of crap we don't care about.
2:22:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure.
2:22:50
It'll all be like that,
2:22:51
you know,
2:22:53
Early Morning Requiem by David Elfman or something,
2:22:57
you know.
2:22:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:22:58
SPEAKER_02: Some bullshit like that.
2:22:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:23:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a good one, too.
2:23:03
SPEAKER_02: Beverly Hills Cop.
2:23:04
SPEAKER_02: That had a good soundtrack, too.
2:23:06
SPEAKER_02: I wonder how that didn't even sell 15.
2:23:09
SPEAKER_02: Had that big Bob Seger hit on it.
2:23:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:23:11
SPEAKER_02: Shake down, break down, shake down.
2:23:14
SPEAKER_02: I think that was his last hit, wasn't it?
2:23:18
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
2:23:20
SPEAKER_02: Either that or Like a Rock.
2:23:22
SPEAKER_02: Like a Rock, I think.
2:23:24
SPEAKER_02: It's one of those two.
2:23:28
SPEAKER_02: God, are we old?
2:23:32
But you notice where these soundtracks fall,
2:23:35
it seemed to end in the,
2:23:37
in the nineties.
2:23:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:23:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:23:41
SPEAKER_02: There's none now.
2:23:42
SPEAKER_02: Now,
2:23:44
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:23:46
you would think there'd be more with everybody just unloading
2:23:49
singles now,
2:23:50
SPEAKER_02: instead of,
2:23:51
SPEAKER_02: instead of albums,
2:23:52
SPEAKER_02: you would think you might see a,
2:23:54
SPEAKER_02: and especially with more content.
2:23:57
know there's so much more content being created for video and
2:24:01
tv movies and tv you
2:24:03
would think they'd come back with the soundtracks just to make
2:24:06
some more money
2:24:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I just don't think people will buy them.
2:24:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's true, too.
2:24:14
SPEAKER_02: Again,
2:24:15
we didn't have streaming music services to where you can just
2:24:18
pick and choose
2:24:19
SPEAKER_02: whatever song you want.
2:24:20
True,
2:24:21
because if we'd had streaming,
2:24:22
none of these would have sold even one million copies.
2:24:25
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
2:24:26
So it's just that you bought that compilation and it had a
2:24:30
whole selection of tunes on there.
2:24:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:24:33
mm-hmm yeah those were great for driving to work did you get a
2:24:37
bunch of different
2:24:38
bands those were the early Spotify really you get a bunch of
2:24:42
different bands it was
2:24:43
just long enough to get to work like 30 40 minutes is perfect
2:24:48
miss those days
2:24:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
2:24:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking at different lists here,
2:24:55
SPEAKER_02: and the ones that pop up all the time are Saturday Night Fever,
2:24:59
SPEAKER_02: Purple Rain,
2:25:01
SPEAKER_02: Dirty Dancing,
2:25:02
SPEAKER_02: Grease,
2:25:05
SPEAKER_02: Flashdance.
2:25:06
SPEAKER_02: I ain't going to lie, I played shit out of the Grease soundtrack.
2:25:11
even the even the weird shitty songs like look at me i'm sandra
2:25:14
d you know whatever
2:25:16
that chanting woman's name was you know uh uh i i love it i
2:25:22
love that whole and of
2:25:23
course the the theme song you know with frankie valley crease
2:25:27
is the word right
2:25:30
yeah that's a good one too mind crime last action hero that was
2:25:33
a very good
2:25:34
SPEAKER_02: soundtrack oh yeah that's true
2:25:36
SPEAKER_02: That's a very strong soundtrack.
2:25:38
SPEAKER_02: I think that might have had that Megadeth song on it.
2:25:42
SPEAKER_02: Didn't it have Cottonfields too from Tesla?
2:25:45
SPEAKER_02: I believe it did.
2:25:45
SPEAKER_02: Or no, it had the song Last Action Hero by Tesla.
2:25:51
SPEAKER_02: Last Action Hero.
2:25:53
SPEAKER_02: I think that was Tesla.
2:25:57
I know it had a Tesla song that wasn't on any albums,
2:26:00
which is why I bought it.
2:26:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, wow.
2:26:15
SPEAKER_02: There was a lot of, um, versions.
2:26:20
SPEAKER_02: No, I was just looking at all the, all the different songs here.
2:26:25
SPEAKER_02: Last action hero.
2:26:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:26:33
SPEAKER_02: See who was on that last action hero soundtrack.
2:26:42
SPEAKER_02: I got it.
2:26:44
SPEAKER_02: ACDC, Big Gun.
2:26:47
SPEAKER_02: Where the Hell Have I?
2:26:48
SPEAKER_02: Alice in Chains.
2:26:50
SPEAKER_02: Angry Again, Megadeth.
2:26:51
SPEAKER_02: There it is.
2:26:52
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was on there.
2:26:54
SPEAKER_02: Real World, Queensryche.
2:26:56
SPEAKER_02: Two Steps Behind, Def Leppard.
2:26:58
SPEAKER_02: Poison My Eyes, Anthrax.
2:27:01
SPEAKER_02: Dream On Live, Aerosmith.
2:27:03
SPEAKER_02: A Little Bitter, Alice in Chains.
2:27:05
SPEAKER_02: Cock the Hammer, Cypress Hill.
2:27:07
SPEAKER_02: Swim by Fishbone.
2:27:09
SPEAKER_02: Last Action Hero by Tesla.
2:27:11
SPEAKER_02: And Jack and the Ripper by Michael Kamen.
2:27:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a good one there.
2:27:20
SPEAKER_02: That was a big one.
2:27:21
SPEAKER_02: And look, one, two, three, six hits.
2:27:25
SPEAKER_02: Six songs were hits off that.
2:27:28
SPEAKER_02: That was a big one.
2:27:28
SPEAKER_02: You know what I remember most about that movie?
2:27:34
SPEAKER_02: How crappy the movie was.
2:27:37
Dude,
2:27:37
I remember that movie more than just about anything from the
2:27:42
early 90s.
2:27:44
And I only remember this because it's going to show what a
2:27:47
fucking pussy whip fag I was.
2:27:51
SPEAKER_02: I snuck out of a day's work to go see this movie.
2:27:58
SPEAKER_02: And what do you think drove you to do that?
2:28:01
SPEAKER_02: I know it did.
2:28:02
SPEAKER_02: A, I was a huge fan of the Arnold movies in the late 80s and 90s.
2:28:07
SPEAKER_02: So you thought this was going to be a good Arnold movie?
2:28:10
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was going to be good.
2:28:11
SPEAKER_02: Plus the soundtrack.
2:28:14
SPEAKER_02: The soundtrack was great.
2:28:16
SPEAKER_02: So I was like, this is like the bands that I like.
2:28:20
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of rock and roll.
2:28:22
SPEAKER_02: It's going to be Arnold.
2:28:23
SPEAKER_02: I like the premise.
2:28:24
SPEAKER_02: I thought it looked cool.
2:28:27
SPEAKER_02: That movie sucked so bad.
2:28:30
SPEAKER_02: Did you ever see this movie, Last Action Hero?
2:28:32
SPEAKER_02: It's fucking terrible.
2:28:34
SPEAKER_02: It might be the worst movie Arnold Schwarzenegger did.
2:28:40
SPEAKER_02: It was kind of sticky.
2:28:43
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:28:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:28:46
And it just was such a letdown because the movie before it was
2:28:52
Terminator 2.
2:28:55
So going from Terminator 2 to The Last Action Hero,
2:28:58
what a letdown that was.
2:29:01
You know,
2:29:01
from Terminator 2 with that cop that would just morph and turn
2:29:05
into swords and shit.
2:29:07
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:29:08
SPEAKER_02: To jumping in and out.
2:29:11
SPEAKER_02: Last Action Hero was just an expensive version of Shocker.
2:29:16
instead of traveling through the wall he was traveling through
2:29:19
the movies but it
2:29:21
was the same movie awful there's people are putting up boy you
2:29:26
guys are just did
2:29:27
you guys live with me the adventures of ford fairlane i
2:29:31
remember another one
2:29:32
another henpecked one snuck out to see that at the drive-in
2:29:38
under the guys that i
2:29:39
SPEAKER_02: was working an overnight shift
2:29:41
SPEAKER_02: I was such a fag.
2:29:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, man.
2:29:44
SPEAKER_02: I was such a bitch.
2:29:48
But I remember distinctly,
2:29:49
I told the wife,
2:29:50
I got to work the overnight tonight.
2:29:51
SPEAKER_02: And you went to the drive-in by yourself?
2:29:55
SPEAKER_02: I went to the drive-in.
2:29:56
SPEAKER_02: No, I went with friends to the drive-in.
2:29:58
SPEAKER_02: I slept over their house.
2:30:00
I slept over their house and woke myself up at six in the
2:30:03
morning and drove home.
2:30:05
Got home at the same time I would have got home if I'd worked
2:30:08
an overnight shift.
2:30:10
SPEAKER_02: But I only wanted,
2:30:11
SPEAKER_02: and I remember that movie,
2:30:13
SPEAKER_02: I only wanted to see that movie,
2:30:15
SPEAKER_02: this will tell you what a fanboy goof I was,
2:30:18
SPEAKER_02: because Motley Crue were in it.
2:30:22
SPEAKER_02: And they were doing an unreleased song, that Rock and Roll Junkie song.
2:30:25
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
2:30:26
SPEAKER_02: And I wanted to see Motley,
2:30:28
SPEAKER_02: I was such a fan of Motley at the time,
2:30:30
SPEAKER_02: that I went to see the Ford Fairlane movie.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_02: I was a fan of Dice, obviously, so...
2:30:35
dice clay and motley that seemed like a home run to me another
2:30:40
crappy movie it
2:30:42
SPEAKER_02: really is not a good movie at all no you know so
2:30:49
SPEAKER_02: The stories.
2:30:50
SPEAKER_02: There's so many fucking homo stories.
2:30:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm such a fag.
2:30:56
SPEAKER_02: You know,
2:30:56
SPEAKER_02: you get locked into those relationships,
2:30:58
SPEAKER_01: man,
2:30:58
SPEAKER_02: and it's just better to,
2:31:00
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:31:02
SPEAKER_02: not upset the apple cart so you don't have to suffer so much grief.
2:31:06
It's just embarrassing because I look at it now and I'm like,
2:31:09
what the fuck was I thinking?
2:31:12
SPEAKER_02: Why didn't I tell this bitch to pound salt?
2:31:16
and i because i would now i mean now it's like you're two
2:31:22
minutes late i'm gone
2:31:23
yeah i i can't be fucking bothered with anything now well
2:31:28
that's because you had
2:31:29
kids though true yeah maybe not true i don't know that the kids
2:31:34
were the were the
2:31:35
anchor really honestly nah well that's that's that's usually
2:31:40
what it is for a lot
2:31:41
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SPEAKER_02: if
2:32:13
SPEAKER_02: If I would have had the balls to leave her,
2:32:16
the kids would not have been an important part of the decision
2:32:19
at all to me.
2:32:21
SPEAKER_02: I'd have left them in a heartbeat.
2:32:22
SPEAKER_02: I know that makes me a horrendous dad, and I've done a lot to make up.
2:32:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm just being honest.
2:32:29
SPEAKER_02: I would have been out of there.
2:32:31
SPEAKER_02: I would have been.
2:32:32
If the only thing that was holding me there was the kids,
2:32:35
I would have left.
2:32:36
SPEAKER_02: No question in my mind.
2:32:39
SPEAKER_02: The kids were not that big of an anchor to me.
2:32:42
What was a big anchor was my money was given away half of my,
2:32:48
I could never get past.
2:32:51
Someone said it to me once when I was getting ready to get
2:32:55
married and it stuck
2:32:56
SPEAKER_02: with me and still sticks with me to this day,
2:32:58
SPEAKER_02: which is why I'll never get married again.
2:33:02
You got to be an imbecile to work from Monday morning till
2:33:06
Wednesday lunch for
2:33:08
SPEAKER_02: somebody you hate.
2:33:09
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:33:10
SPEAKER_02: And that is so true when you think about it.
2:33:12
And in divorce court,
2:33:15
if you lose the alimony game,
2:33:17
you are going to be giving up
2:33:20
SPEAKER_02: Or the child support or whatever.
2:33:23
You are literally,
2:33:24
it's not so much the money,
2:33:25
because who gives a fuck about the money?
2:33:27
SPEAKER_02: It's the time.
2:33:28
SPEAKER_02: It's 20 hours a week wasted on some bitch that you hate.
2:33:34
SPEAKER_02: That is horrible.
2:33:37
SPEAKER_02: That is such a horrible, honestly, because you can look at the money.
2:33:42
SPEAKER_02: You could get a less paying job.
2:33:45
You know,
2:33:45
I mean,
2:33:46
you get a job making $300 a week or whatever and just to fuck
2:33:51
with your ex.
2:33:53
SPEAKER_02: But you're still working from Monday at 8 a.m.
2:33:56
SPEAKER_02: until Wednesday at noon, man.
2:33:59
You know,
2:33:59
it's still 20 hours you're giving this bitch that you can't
2:34:02
stand.
2:34:04
SPEAKER_02: That weighs so heavy on me.
2:34:07
SPEAKER_02: I would never do that again.
2:34:09
SPEAKER_02: Never.
2:34:14
SPEAKER_02: Too funny.
2:34:15
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:34:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, moving on, you got anything else in particular?
2:34:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I have stuff, but let's see.
2:34:25
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk.
2:34:27
SPEAKER_02: We grazed over it a little bit.
2:34:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to bring this up for real now.
2:34:33
Let's talk about,
2:34:34
well,
2:34:35
let's play the bumper first,
2:34:36
and then we'll talk about this.
2:34:39
SPEAKER_02: If I can find it.
2:34:39
SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
2:34:42
SPEAKER_02: Hey,
2:34:42
it's been five minutes and it's time now for Neely to talk
2:34:46
Dockin' on the Classic
2:34:47
SPEAKER_02: Metal Show.
2:34:54
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:34:55
SPEAKER_02: Time to talk Dockin' here on the Classic Metal Show.
2:34:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:34:59
SPEAKER_02: Of course, Don came out this week to clarify his retirement comment.
2:35:05
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:35:06
SPEAKER_02: And his comment is, what I meant was we're going to slow down.
2:35:11
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:35:13
SPEAKER_02: not going to read all this stuff.
2:35:14
SPEAKER_02: It talks about that they want to do an EP and all this stuff.
2:35:19
SPEAKER_02: Don has no idea, right?
2:35:22
SPEAKER_02: Let's just call it what it is.
2:35:23
SPEAKER_02: He has no idea.
2:35:25
He's never,
2:35:26
if,
2:35:27
if I was betting,
2:35:28
if you were betting,
2:35:29
yeah,
2:35:31
would you bet he never retires?
2:35:33
SPEAKER_02: He literally dies either on stage or on his way to or from a stage.
2:35:38
Well,
2:35:39
I think what,
2:35:40
I think what will sideline Don,
2:35:42
if anything does is his mobility,
2:35:46
right?
2:35:48
and you know like like last night you know he he he had well it
2:35:55
was it was just a
2:35:56
bad travel day like he he flew out of he flew out of uh santa
2:36:01
fe to dallas on
2:36:03
thursday okay and he was supposed to catch a connector in
2:36:07
dallas to st louis well
2:36:11
SPEAKER_02: his he was supposed to catch his connector like it
2:36:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, it was like 2, 2.30 in the afternoon.
2:36:18
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:36:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, then they bumped it to 4.30.
2:36:21
SPEAKER_02: Then they bumped it to 6.30.
2:36:23
SPEAKER_02: Then they bumped it to 8.30, and then they canceled it.
2:36:27
SPEAKER_02: So he basically sat at the airport for about 10 hours.
2:36:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, in those very comfortable seats there at the airport.
2:36:35
SPEAKER_02: Only to have his flight canceled.
2:36:37
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:36:38
SPEAKER_02: And the only way...
2:36:41
they were able to rebook his flight he was at dallas fort worth
2:36:46
he had to go to
2:36:46
dallas love field the next morning and get a flight at 6 a.m
2:36:52
out of there so he had
2:36:54
to go to a totally different airport right to catch a flight
2:36:57
out of dallas to st
2:36:59
SPEAKER_02: louis and and that was a 6 a.m flight so he had to leave the airport
2:37:07
SPEAKER_02: get an Uber,
2:37:08
SPEAKER_02: go to a hotel close to Dallas Love Field,
2:37:12
SPEAKER_02: and then be there by like 5 in the morning or 4.30.
2:37:16
SPEAKER_02: to catch that six o'clock flight and get into St.
2:37:19
SPEAKER_02: Louis by, uh, what was that?
2:37:22
SPEAKER_02: Seven 30.
2:37:23
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
2:37:24
SPEAKER_02: And he was solo.
2:37:25
SPEAKER_02: Like he's by himself.
2:37:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:37:27
SPEAKER_02: He was by himself.
2:37:28
SPEAKER_02: So he didn't have anybody to help him with his suitcases or any shit.
2:37:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
2:37:33
SPEAKER_02: And he's not really wired for that anymore.
2:37:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:37:35
SPEAKER_02: So, so he, he was, uh, you know, he was, uh,
2:37:42
cranky no he was he was uh dealing with a backache you know you
2:37:49
know and so by the
2:37:50
time he hit the stage even though you know he had said that his
2:37:53
back was bothering
2:37:54
SPEAKER_02: him
2:37:55
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:37:55
SPEAKER_02: we had gotten him some Advil and things,
2:37:57
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:37:58
SPEAKER_02: to try to,
2:37:59
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:37:59
SPEAKER_02: relieve the pain,
2:38:01
SPEAKER_02: but it just got so bad while he was on stage.
2:38:04
SPEAKER_02: He had to,
2:38:05
SPEAKER_02: he had to take,
2:38:05
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:38:06
SPEAKER_02: sit and sit on a bar stool a couple of times through the set,
2:38:10
SPEAKER_02: which he hates,
2:38:11
SPEAKER_02: which he hates.
2:38:13
SPEAKER_02: But,
2:38:13
SPEAKER_02: uh,
2:38:14
SPEAKER_02: the fans didn't seem to mind because after the show and this morning,
2:38:18
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:38:19
SPEAKER_02: we were out in the main,
2:38:21
SPEAKER_02: um,
2:38:21
SPEAKER_02: casino,
2:38:23
SPEAKER_02: uh,
2:38:25
restaurant area he and i before he took off to go home this
2:38:29
morning and so many
2:38:30
fans came up to say hello and take a picture and said they
2:38:34
loved the show and it
2:38:36
didn't bother them at all that he had to take a you know take a
2:38:40
seat for a few
2:38:41
minutes to rest his back but getting back to the thing is the
2:38:46
only thing in my
2:38:47
opinion that's gonna sideline don is is mobility okay if he
2:38:52
were to become
2:38:54
you know uh unable to to walk or something like that you know
2:38:59
that would probably
2:39:00
be the end of it but as far as the performing is concerned he
2:39:04
still loves to
2:39:04
perform you know he still likes to get out there and you know
2:39:08
so he's like well you
2:39:09
know maybe i'll just book like one or two shows every every
2:39:13
month or every other
2:39:14
SPEAKER_02: month or something and
2:39:16
Do a dozen shows or 20 shows a year and still get out there,
2:39:21
but give me a reason to go out.
2:39:25
SPEAKER_02: Do you think he ever moves back to L.A.
2:39:27
and just finds himself like a little hotspot club that's his
2:39:32
that just does
2:39:32
SPEAKER_02: acoustic things every now and again?
2:39:35
SPEAKER_02: It's hard to say.
2:39:37
SPEAKER_02: It's hard to say.
2:39:38
SPEAKER_02: You would think that would be,
2:39:39
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:39:39
at this point with the voice and the can't play guitar and
2:39:43
everything else,
2:39:43
SPEAKER_02: you would think he'd be looking to find something a bit easier to do.
2:39:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:39:50
You know,
2:39:51
and I'm not even saying that the performance part is hard to
2:39:53
do.
2:39:54
I mean,
2:39:54
it is for him with his back and his hand and all the other
2:39:57
shit,
2:39:58
but
2:40:01
I think what you're describing is probably way more of an issue
2:40:04
to him than the
2:40:04
SPEAKER_02: performance,
2:40:06
SPEAKER_02: which is the travel.
2:40:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure he dreads on a Wednesday if he's flying Thursday.
2:40:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure he's thinking about it all day Wednesday.
2:40:15
SPEAKER_02: I got to get on this fucking plane.
2:40:17
SPEAKER_02: It's going to suck.
2:40:18
right you know i'm gonna be uncomfortable my back's gonna hurt
2:40:21
my fucking hand is
2:40:22
all fucked up i'm sure even even guys who are you know
2:40:27
seemingly healthy like uh
2:40:29
like a sammy hagar complains about the travel sure you know and
2:40:34
which is why he you
2:40:36
SPEAKER_02: know was
2:40:37
seemingly pretty excited about that residency in las vegas you
2:40:41
know because they
2:40:42
didn't have to travel and go from show to show you know but as
2:40:48
far as you know don
2:40:49
is concerned you know he still wants to do a handful of shows a
2:40:53
year okay and that
2:40:55
that'll scratch that itch to to get out and perform but without
2:41:00
some rigorous you
2:41:02
SPEAKER_02: know touring schedule mm-hmm
2:41:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
2:41:07
SPEAKER_02: I hope he does figure out something that's a little less...
2:41:10
SPEAKER_02: Because he just seems...
2:41:12
SPEAKER_02: And again,
2:41:13
SPEAKER_02: this is the press view.
2:41:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you see him.
2:41:16
SPEAKER_02: He seems pretty down.
2:41:18
SPEAKER_02: Every interview I see with him, he seems pretty... Which I get, too.
2:41:22
SPEAKER_02: He hates doing interviews, too.
2:41:23
SPEAKER_02: Who doesn't?
2:41:24
SPEAKER_02: But...
2:41:26
SPEAKER_02: You know,
2:41:26
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
2:41:27
SPEAKER_02: all these guys that have been doing it 40 years,
2:41:28
SPEAKER_02: they fucking hate doing interviews.
2:41:30
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:41:31
SPEAKER_02: They all hate it because it's just the same old dumb shit.
2:41:34
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's...
2:41:36
16 guys in a row all asking the same 10 questions dude tell me
2:41:41
about when you were
2:41:42
fucking on top of the world in 1983 you know that's that's
2:41:47
that's all these guys
2:41:48
ever ask yeah one or two things about whatever's going on now
2:41:52
and then i just want
2:41:53
to take you back on you know tell me a little bit about the
2:41:56
time between tooth and
2:41:58
SPEAKER_02: nail and under lock and key what was going on
2:42:01
Yeah,
2:42:02
well,
2:42:03
they're always so interested in the relationship between Don
2:42:07
and George.
2:42:07
SPEAKER_02: Don and George, of course.
2:42:08
SPEAKER_02: And that's all they ever ask about is they just ask about the question.
2:42:13
SPEAKER_02: It's like, well, what was really going on between you two?
2:42:15
SPEAKER_02: How come you two hated each other?
2:42:17
SPEAKER_02: How come this?
2:42:18
SPEAKER_02: It's all history.
2:42:21
SPEAKER_02: Go look it up yourself.
2:42:23
SPEAKER_02: It's out there.
2:42:23
SPEAKER_02: And neither one of them can win if they answer it.
2:42:28
yeah because if they answer it it always turns it comes out in
2:42:32
the put in the press
2:42:34
as don dock and said george lynch is a lazy performer right and
2:42:39
what he might have
2:42:40
said was back in 1983 when i first met george lynch he was a
2:42:45
lazy performer and i
2:42:46
didn't like that and i told him this one time step it up but
2:42:52
they won't report that
2:42:53
SPEAKER_02: instead it'll be a clickbait news thing
2:42:56
SPEAKER_02: Don Dockin says George Lynch, lazy performer.
2:42:59
SPEAKER_02: Right, of course.
2:43:00
SPEAKER_02: You know,
2:43:00
SPEAKER_02: and it'll go through the media spin,
2:43:02
SPEAKER_02: and next thing you know,
2:43:04
SPEAKER_02: Don's beating up people's mothers and stuff again.
2:43:08
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's so stupid.
2:43:09
SPEAKER_02: The media's fucking dumb.
2:43:11
SPEAKER_02: I know.
2:43:12
SPEAKER_02: Well,
2:43:12
SPEAKER_02: I see those two backstage,
2:43:15
SPEAKER_02: and obviously they share a stage when Lynch is there to perform,
2:43:20
SPEAKER_02: which he was last night.
2:43:21
SPEAKER_02: He did his Lynch Mob show.
2:43:24
opening for docking and then george came on and did the last
2:43:28
three songs and you
2:43:29
know they they sit there in the in the uh break room or the
2:43:34
break room the the
2:43:35
backstage area the green room and they'll sit there chatting up
2:43:39
a storm so it's
2:43:41
it's not this this hate animosity thing you know they they in
2:43:46
fact george literally
2:43:48
SPEAKER_02: lives 30 minutes from dawn's house in new mexico
2:43:52
SPEAKER_02: Do they visit each other?
2:43:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's the thing.
2:43:54
SPEAKER_02: He's been by George.
2:43:56
SPEAKER_02: And Don has invited George.
2:43:59
SPEAKER_02: He says, well, next time you come down through the area, stop by.
2:44:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:44:05
you know so yeah it is a i mean i guess because they were do
2:44:13
you think it's because
2:44:14
they were the most famous or biggest band at the time that just
2:44:18
didn't like each
2:44:19
other they imploded when they were right at their peak too
2:44:22
which hurt which made
2:44:24
SPEAKER_02: that people want to know because they were right at the cusp of
2:44:30
launching i am back for the attack was launching they were
2:44:33
ready to be an arena
2:44:35
headliner at that yeah and i mean back for the attack with the
2:44:39
dream war as much as
2:44:40
i don't like that song i'd certainly understand another
2:44:44
soundtrack song soundtrack
2:44:45
song another soundtrack song but my god was it huge i remember
2:44:49
that song was
2:44:50
everywhere yeah huge and then like two months later i remember
2:44:56
getting like kerrang
2:44:58
or hip raider or something it said docking breaks up yeah what
2:45:02
how can that be yeah
2:45:04
i remember i remember going to see nightmare on elm street part
2:45:07
three and and at
2:45:09
the end of the movie they they played the dream warriors music
2:45:13
video and i stayed
2:45:15
stayed after the movie was over just to watch see the music
2:45:19
video sure yeah
2:45:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:45:24
SPEAKER_02: What is this?
2:45:25
SPEAKER_02: Don fucked Doodle's wife again?
2:45:28
SPEAKER_02: Doodle's Weaver.
2:45:30
SPEAKER_02: Doodle's Weaver.
2:45:31
SPEAKER_02: Who said that?
2:45:33
SPEAKER_02: Fuego.
2:45:33
SPEAKER_02: It's a good one.
2:45:35
SPEAKER_02: Good line.
2:45:37
SPEAKER_02: Doodle's Weaver.
2:45:40
SPEAKER_02: Our fans remember every damn thing.
2:45:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:45:43
SPEAKER_02: It's too funny.
2:45:46
don can tell some stories i'll tell you he can he definitely
2:45:49
can it is amazing you
2:45:51
know even before he became famous as a musician and things his
2:45:58
hit the stories he
2:46:01
has about uh being um in the presence of or being friends with
2:46:09
or acquaintances
2:46:10
SPEAKER_02: with a lot of
2:46:12
pretty famous people you know it's just it's just stunning you
2:46:18
know that he just
2:46:19
happened to be like in the right place at the right time sure
2:46:23
no people you know
2:46:25
yeah because didn't he happen to be in germany when they were
2:46:29
recording blackout
2:46:30
SPEAKER_02: scorpions well no that's how he got his career started
2:46:34
SPEAKER_02: But it was from being in Germany, right?
2:46:37
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:46:37
SPEAKER_02: No?
2:46:38
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:46:38
SPEAKER_02: He was performing at the Whiskey with his lineup of Dokken at the time.
2:46:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:46:46
And Dieter Dirks,
2:46:48
the producer for the Scorpions,
2:46:50
just happened to be in L.A.
2:46:52
SPEAKER_02: and he came to the Whiskey and he was checking out Don singing.
2:46:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:46:58
And after the show was over,
2:47:00
Dieter came up to Don and said that he goes...
2:47:04
SPEAKER_02: he said, I like your, I like your singing.
2:47:06
SPEAKER_02: And he says, and he says, Oh, you like my band?
2:47:10
SPEAKER_02: He goes, no, I don't like your band, but I like you.
2:47:13
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
2:47:14
He said,
2:47:15
and then he told them that they were recording the blackout
2:47:18
record and,
2:47:19
uh,
2:47:21
klaus was having some vocals that vocal issues okay and because
2:47:25
don has that same
2:47:28
vibrato you know uh he asked him if he would come to germany
2:47:33
and do backup backing
2:47:35
tracks okay on the blackout record sure which is how he ended
2:47:40
up going to germany
2:47:41
SPEAKER_02: they paid for him to go to germany and do the backup vocals and stuff
2:47:46
SPEAKER_02: And in exchange for his time and stuff, they gave him studio time.
2:47:52
SPEAKER_02: And he recorded that record that ended up coming out on Carrera Records.
2:47:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:47:59
SPEAKER_02: You know, back in the streets.
2:48:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:48:01
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
2:48:03
So that's how that came about,
2:48:05
but he didn't have a band,
2:48:07
you know,
2:48:07
at the time.
2:48:08
SPEAKER_02: So that's,
2:48:09
SPEAKER_02: that's when he had to bring George and,
2:48:12
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:48:12
SPEAKER_02: get these guys,
2:48:13
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:48:13
SPEAKER_02: to perform,
2:48:14
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:48:15
SPEAKER_02: and it wasn't really docking.
2:48:17
SPEAKER_02: It was just Don docking.
2:48:19
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:48:21
crazy so it was just happenstance that uh dieter dirks caught
2:48:27
him at the whiskey
2:48:28
performing and invited them to come do that sure and i mean i
2:48:35
just remember back in
2:48:36
the day they they always were docking was always that band that
2:48:41
was on the good
2:48:42
SPEAKER_02: tours
2:48:43
SPEAKER_02: Like, in that era.
2:48:44
I mean,
2:48:45
it was,
2:48:45
you know,
2:48:45
obviously the Monsters of Rock,
2:48:47
which we talk about all the time.
2:48:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but they were on ACDC tour.
2:48:51
SPEAKER_02: ACDC, Twisted Sister, Aerosmith tour.
2:48:53
SPEAKER_02: Judas Priest.
2:48:54
SPEAKER_02: Twisted Sister, Judas Priest.
2:48:56
SPEAKER_02: They were in that heavy metal parking lot.
2:48:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:48:59
SPEAKER_02: They were on every good tour.
2:49:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they got all high exposure tours.
2:49:06
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
2:49:07
but they had a good manager in that cliff bernstein right q
2:49:11
prime manager right you
2:49:13
know which obviously uh manages like metallica and you know
2:49:19
bands like that so they
2:49:21
they got lucky with with having a good management team that was
2:49:25
able to promote
2:49:26
SPEAKER_02: them sure
2:49:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
2:49:29
SPEAKER_02: it just sucks that,
2:49:34
SPEAKER_02: as a fan,
2:49:34
SPEAKER_02: and just as a fan,
2:49:37
SPEAKER_02: when you look at a band like that,
2:49:39
SPEAKER_02: that you like,
2:49:39
SPEAKER_02: and forget that we know them,
2:49:41
SPEAKER_02: I want to just take that all,
2:49:43
SPEAKER_02: just as a fan of the band at that time,
2:49:47
just see them get that close and you as a fan put your energy
2:49:51
into it and then they
2:49:53
break up right when it's gonna happen I can remember telling my
2:49:58
friends when I was
2:50:00
15 years old you know I'd get in their car and everything
2:50:03
everything at that point
2:50:05
SPEAKER_02: if you remember I just have been 82 83 from 82 to 86 everything was
2:50:13
SPEAKER_02: Led Zeppelin in my school.
2:50:15
SPEAKER_02: Everything was Led Zeppelin, Judas Priest, Genesis, and Aerosmith.
2:50:23
those were the four major bands right and i can remember
2:50:28
getting in many friends
2:50:30
cars you know just whenever we were doing going to the gate to
2:50:34
smoke pot or
2:50:35
whatever the it was we were doing and i would pull the tape out
2:50:39
the dock and i had
2:50:41
the single with um i think it was dream warriors on the front
2:50:44
back for the attack
2:50:45
the song on the on the other side right and i would play that
2:50:49
for my friends they
2:50:49
SPEAKER_02: were every one of them be like
2:50:51
that kicks ass man what is that i was like it's docking dude
2:50:55
docking yeah yeah and
2:50:57
sure enough they all gave me that stupid look and were like did
2:51:02
you say van halen
2:51:04
SPEAKER_02: no i said docking
2:51:06
felt like that guy in that goofy spoof about docking,
2:51:10
you know,
2:51:11
Donnie,
2:51:11
the doc docking.
2:51:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:51:13
SPEAKER_02: Donnie, the doc docking.
2:51:14
SPEAKER_02: I felt like that guy because I would 24, seven docking.
2:51:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:51:20
SPEAKER_02: And all the time.
2:51:21
SPEAKER_02: I just remember that though,
2:51:23
telling people about docking and they were just looked at me
2:51:26
with their eyes
2:51:27
SPEAKER_02: crossed.
2:51:27
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, this is not, this is not what we're listening to.
2:51:32
SPEAKER_02: We're listening to, I don't know.
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delicate sound of thunder you know old old music there was no
2:52:16
getting through to
2:52:17
people with something that was current at the time and then
2:52:20
when it blew up
2:52:20
everybody knew about it and then they were like yeah sure you
2:52:22
were you were that
2:52:24
SPEAKER_02: you were the one that knew about doc and i was like i was really i was
2:52:32
and that was good times yep just you know working at the record
2:52:35
stores when i first
2:52:37
heard them when breaking the chains sure themselves and then of
2:52:41
course mtv they
2:52:43
were on mtv and then it just went from there i just liked what
2:52:47
i heard from the
2:52:48
SPEAKER_02: from the get-go right and uh just was a just a fan ever since
2:52:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was always a fan from when I heard him.
2:52:57
SPEAKER_02: Well,
2:52:57
SPEAKER_02: I take that back because I remember the first time I heard him,
2:52:59
SPEAKER_02: I didn't like him that much.
2:53:01
SPEAKER_02: I hated the song Breaking the Chains.
2:53:04
SPEAKER_02: Remember that had that super fucking cheesy, terrible video.
2:53:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:53:09
SPEAKER_02: The chains blowing up and they were chained to like a table or some shit.
2:53:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:53:14
SPEAKER_02: They were just breaking.
2:53:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:53:17
SPEAKER_02: And it was like,
2:53:18
SPEAKER_02: but it was like real cheap,
2:53:21
SPEAKER_02: real cheap fireworks or something that are going off on it.
2:53:24
SPEAKER_02: Cause probably cause they didn't want to get burned or nothing.
2:53:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:53:29
it was probably some improvised that they made themselves like
2:53:32
like rock and randy
2:53:33
remember rock and randy used to make the flash pots oh yeah it
2:53:37
was damn near blow
2:53:38
up the stage i'm sure that's what was going on with docking on
2:53:43
the there's no way
2:53:44
SPEAKER_02: that video costs more than 500 there's just no way
2:53:50
SPEAKER_02: But I just remember hearing that.
2:53:52
SPEAKER_02: I didn't like the song either.
2:53:54
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't like Felony very much.
2:53:56
SPEAKER_02: I remember hearing that and I didn't like Felony.
2:53:58
SPEAKER_02: I didn't like that record.
2:54:00
SPEAKER_02: But man, they put it together on the next one though.
2:54:02
SPEAKER_02: Well,
2:54:02
SPEAKER_02: they had to,
2:54:04
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:54:04
SPEAKER_02: they,
2:54:04
SPEAKER_02: they were going to be dropped from the label because,
2:54:06
SPEAKER_02: because bringing the gene stiffed,
2:54:09
SPEAKER_02: it just,
2:54:09
SPEAKER_02: it just wasn't happening.
2:54:11
You know,
2:54:11
they were out on the,
2:54:13
their first major tour was opening for blue oyster call.
2:54:16
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:54:18
SPEAKER_02: And,
2:54:18
SPEAKER_02: uh,
2:54:18
SPEAKER_02: they came home,
2:54:19
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:54:20
after that tour and the record wasn't selling and they were
2:54:24
about ready to get
2:54:25
SPEAKER_02: dropped.
2:54:25
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, Don basically.
2:54:29
begged the record label to give them one more chance and that's
2:54:32
when they came up
2:54:33
with tooth and nail and that you know that just set them set
2:54:37
them you know off on
2:54:39
SPEAKER_02: their course it's weird how they went from
2:54:44
SPEAKER_02: I'll say questionable songs with,
2:54:47
with breaking the chains and the stuff before to three albums
2:54:52
of near perfection.
2:54:54
Well,
2:54:54
the thing is,
2:54:55
is breaking the chains really wasn't a cohesive band yet.
2:55:00
SPEAKER_02: It was just a,
2:55:01
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:55:02
SPEAKER_02: a collection of songs that they recorded,
2:55:07
SPEAKER_02: but they,
2:55:07
SPEAKER_02: they weren't like a,
2:55:08
SPEAKER_02: a,
2:55:11
SPEAKER_02: seasoned band or a band that played well together.
2:55:15
SPEAKER_02: They just, they just recorded these songs and, um,
2:55:20
SPEAKER_02: it was only in Germany and then they brought it here to the U S and,
2:55:25
SPEAKER_02: and,
2:55:25
SPEAKER_02: um,
2:55:26
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:55:27
SPEAKER_02: re-released it.
2:55:28
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:55:29
SPEAKER_02: You know,
2:55:29
SPEAKER_02: so,
2:55:30
SPEAKER_02: but once they became a band and had,
2:55:34
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:55:35
SPEAKER_02: um,
2:55:36
SPEAKER_02: consistent players and they,
2:55:38
SPEAKER_02: and they wrote together and they performed together and all this,
2:55:41
SPEAKER_02: that's when it all came together as a cohesive unit.
2:55:45
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:55:46
SPEAKER_02: What's the go-to for you?
2:55:47
SPEAKER_02: It's functional.
2:55:49
dysfunctional really yeah okay i gotta go with back for the
2:55:54
attack for me i love
2:55:56
that record venice yes i listened to it uh thursday on my way
2:56:00
down to st louis but
2:56:02
i listened to dysfunctional on the way back today dysfunctional
2:56:05
is damn good too
2:56:06
but it's a mature record i mean it's it's a very mature record
2:56:11
the the uh the songs
2:56:14
SPEAKER_02: and the the
2:56:17
lyrics and the,
2:56:18
and the meanings and some of the songs are just very,
2:56:21
uh,
2:56:21
very deep.
2:56:22
SPEAKER_02: And that wasn't even supposed to be a docking record.
2:56:25
That was supposed to be a followup on dock and solo record from
2:56:29
up from the ashes.
2:56:31
SPEAKER_02: Would you put up to dysfunctional?
2:56:36
SPEAKER_02: Where would you list the solo record?
2:56:41
SPEAKER_02: Cause I personally would put it pretty fuck.
2:56:43
I would put it probably third in the dock and catalog behind
2:56:48
back for the,
2:56:49
SPEAKER_02: for me behind back for the attack and tooth and nail.
2:56:52
up from the ashes yeah yeah that's that's in my top five that's
2:56:57
in my probably top
2:56:58
three from them i love that record it is just so good i would
2:57:03
have loved i would
2:57:05
have loved to have heard what lynch would have done with some
2:57:07
of those songs
2:57:08
nothing against john it was john norm right it was john norm
2:57:12
and billy white yeah i
2:57:14
would have rather heard lynch i think it would have been it
2:57:17
would have been an
2:57:17
SPEAKER_02: amazing docking record
2:57:20
it would have been the record that put him over the do you
2:57:23
think that it would have
2:57:24
put him over and the reason it didn't put Don over was because
2:57:28
it was Don Dockin
2:57:29
and not Dockin yeah well he had to start again more or less you
2:57:33
know and plus he
2:57:34
was on a new label too he was on Geffen you know so you know he
2:57:41
did well in Japan
2:57:42
SPEAKER_02: and you gotta remember this was 1991 too
2:57:49
sure so yeah so the business was getting ready to die yep it
2:57:54
was it was changing
2:57:55
over and so from 87 uh when when uh back for the attack came
2:58:01
out to by the time
2:58:03
that uh dawn's solo record came out you know there had been
2:58:08
several years there you
2:58:09
know and then of course the the climate was changing as well
2:58:14
right yep i get it
2:58:19
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:58:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, what do you want to do?
2:58:22
SPEAKER_02: You want to take a break?
2:58:23
SPEAKER_02: You want to just go for another half hour and call it?
2:58:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, let's, let's play a couple of songs.
2:58:28
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:58:29
SPEAKER_02: And then we'll come back and we'll wrap it up.
2:58:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:58:33
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:58:35
SPEAKER_02: So, uh, let me see here.
2:58:36
SPEAKER_02: What do I got?
2:58:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm jumping the fast pass again.
2:58:39
SPEAKER_02: What do you think of that?
2:58:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm jumping in.
2:58:43
SPEAKER_02: I would like to hear sleepless night from docking.
2:58:47
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:58:49
SPEAKER_02: I think we can accommodate you.
2:58:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:58:51
SPEAKER_02: I love that tune.
2:58:53
SPEAKER_02: And what a fucking rift.
2:58:54
SPEAKER_02: Open it.
2:58:56
SPEAKER_02: Love that shit.
2:58:58
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:58:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, sleepless night it is.
2:59:00
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:59:01
Well,
2:59:02
we're going to play a few tunes and come back and we'll wrap up
2:59:04
the show.
2:59:05
SPEAKER_02: So here it is from the back for the attack release.
2:59:07
SPEAKER_02: It is sleepless nights exclusively here on your classic metal show.
2:59:20
Bye.
2:59:20
Bye.
2:59:50
SPEAKER_03: Hi, everyone.
2:59:51
SPEAKER_03: This is KK Downing of KK's Priest, and you're watching CMS TV.
2:59:57
And I remember getting punched right square in the back wearing
3:00:02
that shirt to
3:00:03
SPEAKER_02: school after this video came out.
3:00:04
SPEAKER_02: It was the last time I ever wore it.
3:00:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, ditch the shirt.
3:00:07
SPEAKER_02: Ditch the shirt, faggot.
3:00:28
it's gillen right here with the secret of the dance that one uh
3:00:34
going out by
3:00:34
request to the wretch just before that we heard billy squire
3:00:38
within the dark for
3:00:39
demon and kicked off that little short block with sleepless
3:00:44
nights by docking for
3:00:45
SPEAKER_02: chris we were talking in the chat room yes
3:00:50
is there any artist ever who killed their entire career with
3:00:55
one song more than
3:00:57
billy squire no and it wasn't so much the song it was video
3:01:02
video killed it but we
3:01:06
were talking in the chat room i i suggested this i'm curious
3:01:09
your opinion had billy
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SPEAKER_02: squire not put out that video
3:01:15
had he just kept going the way he was going i'm not saying he
3:01:20
would have become
3:01:21
bruce springsteen or that level big but i think he raises to
3:01:26
like the huey lewis
3:01:29
SPEAKER_02: level for his career
3:01:32
yeah he had a he had a really good great career going on there
3:01:35
and had some pretty
3:01:36
good records and stuff but that one faggy video and that was it
3:01:42
and no one gave him
3:01:43
a chance yeah i know he was crawling around on the floor and
3:01:47
wearing a pink rip top
3:01:49
and can you find that video i'm sure i can i'm sure i can find
3:01:55
that horrendous
3:01:55
SPEAKER_02: video
3:01:57
and he's just doing all these hand motions it's really gay just
3:02:02
really faggy rock
3:02:04
me tonight official video i remember when that video came out
3:02:11
and i i said hey
3:02:12
check out the new billy billy squire video and you know what my
3:02:15
chick said who's
3:02:17
SPEAKER_02: this fag
3:02:19
look at this fag pretty close she wasn't wrong just awful all
3:02:30
right here we go
3:02:31
here's the video oh right there stop right there it's already a
3:02:41
bad video already
3:02:42
SPEAKER_02: with the satin sheets satin sheets it's terrible
3:02:48
SPEAKER_02: believe he did this to his own career damn all right here we go
3:03:05
SPEAKER_02: Now, you know what's funny, though, when you see this?
3:03:08
SPEAKER_02: You know there was some stupid producer in his head that was like,
3:03:12
SPEAKER_02: we're going to have you naked,
3:03:13
SPEAKER_02: you're going to get up,
3:03:14
SPEAKER_02: it's going to be sexy.
3:03:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
3:03:18
SPEAKER_02: It's we're going to sexy you up.
3:03:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:03:20
SPEAKER_02: It's going to be a sexy, hot video shoot.
3:03:23
SPEAKER_02: We're going to start with you getting out of bed naked.
3:03:25
SPEAKER_02: The chicks are going to dig this, man.
3:03:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is going to send you into the stratosphere.
3:03:30
But the thing is,
3:03:31
is that the majority of Billy's audience was mostly dudes,
3:03:36
I would imagine.
3:03:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:03:38
SPEAKER_02: And guys didn't want to see this.
3:03:40
SPEAKER_02: They were just like, what the fuck?
3:03:42
SPEAKER_02: They wanted the stroke man, not this guy.
3:03:44
SPEAKER_02: This guy was the stroke myself, man.
3:03:48
SPEAKER_02: This is not good.
3:03:49
SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
3:03:50
SPEAKER_01: You know what the faggiest part of my life is?
3:04:14
i i don't think it was this shirt but he sold shirts with that
3:04:19
same color pattern
3:04:20
on them yeah i had one and i i did i went and saw squire and i
3:04:26
on emotions in
3:04:27
motion and i bought the t-shirt and i and i remember that i was
3:04:33
wearing it like i
3:04:34
SPEAKER_02: would wear it to school i was proud of it i was billy squire fan
3:04:38
SPEAKER_02: And then this video came out.
3:04:40
And I remember getting punched right square in the back wearing
3:04:45
that shirt to
3:04:46
SPEAKER_02: school after this video came out.
3:04:47
SPEAKER_02: And it was the last time I ever wore it.
3:04:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, ditch the shirt.
3:04:50
SPEAKER_02: Ditch the shirt, faggot.
3:04:52
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
3:04:53
SPEAKER_02: That's exactly what it was, too.
3:04:55
SPEAKER_02: It was like, how can you wear that shirt, you homo?
3:04:58
SPEAKER_02: And I got beat for it.
3:05:01
SPEAKER_02: Horrible.
3:05:02
SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
3:05:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Jesus Christ.
3:05:14
SPEAKER_02: What is that?
3:05:16
SPEAKER_02: What is that?
3:05:18
SPEAKER_02: It's like he's directing an orchestra or something.
3:05:26
SPEAKER_02: I know.
3:05:26
SPEAKER_02: It's just this limp-wristed... It's like, wait a minute.
3:05:31
SPEAKER_02: You're the emotions in motion guy.
3:05:34
SPEAKER_02: You're the stroke man.
3:05:35
SPEAKER_02: You're lonely as the night.
3:05:37
SPEAKER_02: What is this?
3:05:38
SPEAKER_02: Now you're dancing around in your fruity-looking apartment.
3:05:42
SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
3:05:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God, are you kidding?
3:05:53
SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
3:06:12
SPEAKER_02: All right, but we have to blame him, right?
3:06:16
SPEAKER_02: He knew what he did, and he saw the final cut.
3:06:21
SPEAKER_02: He had to think this was terrible.
3:06:24
SPEAKER_02: He had to.
3:06:27
SPEAKER_02: There's no way he got up after this thing and said, fuck, nailed that.
3:06:32
SPEAKER_02: There's no way, is there?
3:06:34
SPEAKER_02: Well,
3:06:35
SPEAKER_02: you know,
3:06:35
SPEAKER_02: seeing the final cut is one thing,
3:06:37
SPEAKER_02: but actually acting it out,
3:06:40
SPEAKER_00: you know,
3:06:41
SPEAKER_02: performing in the video.
3:06:43
SPEAKER_02: He had to know that he was acting like a fruit.
3:06:47
SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
3:06:48
It's like he took the script from a George Michael video and
3:06:52
brought it to his studio.
3:06:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:06:54
SPEAKER_02: What the hell?
3:06:55
SPEAKER_02: He wanted to be the new Wham.
3:06:57
SPEAKER_02: He did.
3:06:59
SPEAKER_02: Jeez.
3:07:00
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
3:07:18
SPEAKER_02: There's literally nothing masculine in this video.
3:07:22
SPEAKER_02: Not a second of masculinity.
3:07:25
SPEAKER_02: Just dancing around like a fairy.
3:07:29
SPEAKER_02: In mood lighting, this is gay nightclub in the 80s colors.
3:07:37
SPEAKER_02: That's what this is.
3:07:39
SPEAKER_02: Somebody sabotaged him.
3:07:41
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
3:07:41
SPEAKER_02: There's no way.
3:07:42
SPEAKER_02: Because he's like married in real life, isn't he?
3:07:45
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
3:07:46
SPEAKER_02: He has like a wife and he's been married for like 40 years or something.
3:07:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:07:51
SPEAKER_02: Look, any woman that would stay with him after this deserves an award.
3:07:55
SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
3:07:56
Do you think the wife saw this and forever suspected that he
3:07:59
might be a little
3:08:00
SPEAKER_02: light in the loafers?
3:08:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, might have been.
3:08:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're late again.
3:08:04
SPEAKER_02: Where were you?
3:08:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, Billy.
3:08:06
SPEAKER_02: A little questionable.
3:08:08
SPEAKER_02: Billy, were you out with your friend Bill?
3:08:10
SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
3:08:19
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:08:20
SPEAKER_02: No one ever wore that.
3:08:23
SPEAKER_02: Ever.
3:08:24
No heterosexual man wore a wife beater with a pink,
3:08:30
what would you call that,
3:08:30
an overlay?
3:08:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like an over shirt or over, you know, a layered look.
3:08:37
SPEAKER_02: No hetero man ever wore that.
3:08:40
SPEAKER_02: Ever.
3:08:42
SPEAKER_02: Except Billy.
3:08:50
SPEAKER_00: You're in for a ride.
3:08:52
SPEAKER_01: Can you feel the blood bound?
3:08:58
SPEAKER_03: The way you're down inside.
3:09:04
SPEAKER_02: No one's stopping us now.
3:09:06
SPEAKER_02: You're downtown.
3:09:08
SPEAKER_00: The music's loud.
3:09:09
SPEAKER_00: Hey, that's all right about me.
3:09:13
SPEAKER_03: Go and play all my love.
3:09:15
SPEAKER_00: Play it all for me.
3:09:18
The real question is,
3:09:20
what does he do those hand motions for in real life?
3:09:23
SPEAKER_02: Because that's not something he's doing just for this video.
3:09:26
SPEAKER_02: He's comfortable doing it.
3:09:29
Do you think this was what he did when he was dancing around
3:09:31
his house listening to...
3:09:34
SPEAKER_02: Madonna or fine young cannibals or whatever.
3:09:36
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
3:09:37
SPEAKER_02: But he's like the male version of flash dance.
3:09:41
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
3:09:42
SPEAKER_02: So awful.
3:09:44
SPEAKER_02: And the dancing around.
3:09:46
SPEAKER_02: This is so bad.
3:09:54
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3:10:07
SPEAKER_02: Stop waiting.
3:10:15
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
3:10:17
SPEAKER_01: It's never easy.
3:10:18
SPEAKER_01: We can make it if we try.
3:10:21
SPEAKER_01: Taking our chances of
3:10:54
All that needs to happen is the rain falling down on him like
3:10:57
in Flashdance.
3:11:01
SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
3:11:03
SPEAKER_02: Son of a bitch.
3:11:06
SPEAKER_02: the hell are you faggots doing?
3:11:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:11:09
SPEAKER_02: Anthony's not wrong on this one.
3:11:12
SPEAKER_01: Jeez.
3:11:40
Yeah,
3:11:42
every night we hear the sound We're breaking up and breaking
3:11:51
down We'll find a
3:11:53
SPEAKER_00: chance,
3:11:53
SPEAKER_00: we'll leave it all away
3:12:30
I would love to know what these guys' names are and if their
3:12:34
careers were ruined as
3:12:35
SPEAKER_02: well with this.
3:12:39
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't think so because they weren't a name brand or anything.
3:12:42
SPEAKER_02: We don't know their names.
3:12:45
SPEAKER_02: You imagine the drummer or whatever goes for an audition.
3:12:48
SPEAKER_02: Hey, who have you played for before?
3:12:50
SPEAKER_02: I was in that Billy Squire video.
3:12:52
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for coming.
3:12:54
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:12:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can leave now.
3:12:58
SPEAKER_02: Jeez.
3:13:00
SPEAKER_02: This is really wretched.
3:13:02
SPEAKER_02: Oof.
3:13:02
SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
3:14:00
SPEAKER_02: I think these guys were the backing band for Frankie Goes to Hollywood.
3:14:04
SPEAKER_02: Jeez.
3:14:05
SPEAKER_02: Hey, guys, you want to shoot a music video or really gaying it up?
3:14:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:14:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, no.
3:14:13
SPEAKER_02: What are you doing with your shirt closed?
3:14:15
SPEAKER_02: Rip it open.
3:14:16
SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
3:14:18
SPEAKER_02: Now we're going to ass bump into each other.
3:14:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
3:14:22
SPEAKER_02: And then do some stomping around.
3:14:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he fucking torpedoed his career with this.
3:14:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh, man.
3:14:32
SPEAKER_02: Never could recover.
3:14:33
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
3:14:34
SPEAKER_02: Because he had some good songs.
3:14:36
SPEAKER_02: Like, you remember that song, Don't Say You Love Me?
3:14:38
SPEAKER_02: That was a pretty good song.
3:14:40
SPEAKER_02: Don't say you love me.
3:14:45
SPEAKER_02: That's a good tune on the next record, but it was way too late.
3:14:49
SPEAKER_02: By then, we had all said, faggot, moved on.
3:14:52
SPEAKER_02: It's like, nope.
3:14:53
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
3:14:56
Would you say he was the first ever artist that got absolutely
3:15:00
abandoned for gayness?
3:15:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:15:03
SPEAKER_02: I would think so, too.
3:15:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:15:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:15:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he went from having a...
3:15:08
SPEAKER_02: you know, a very, uh, high profile career.
3:15:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:15:13
SPEAKER_02: His,
3:15:13
his songs were being played on the radio and his albums were
3:15:17
selling and all that
3:15:18
SPEAKER_02: other stuff.
3:15:19
SPEAKER_02: And then this came out and it was just like over done over just done.
3:15:26
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
3:15:29
SPEAKER_02: What a fall.
3:15:30
SPEAKER_02: Holy smokes.
3:15:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:15:33
SPEAKER_02: All right, well, there you go.
3:15:34
SPEAKER_02: It's Billy Squire.
3:15:36
SPEAKER_02: I know we circle back to him every now and again, but so what?
3:15:40
SPEAKER_02: We're just gaying it up.
3:15:41
SPEAKER_02: And Hardy, stop it.
3:15:43
SPEAKER_02: That is not a good song.
3:15:46
SPEAKER_02: That's not a good song.
3:15:49
SPEAKER_02: If you want a good song on that album, go and listen to another 1984.
3:15:52
SPEAKER_02: That's a good song.
3:15:56
SPEAKER_02: Rock Me Tonight is not a good song.
3:15:59
SPEAKER_02: Do you think it's a good song?
3:16:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a fan.
3:16:04
SPEAKER_02: I mean, can you ever, like if it comes on, don't you switch it?
3:16:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know where I'd hear it.
3:16:11
SPEAKER_02: Like if it came on on like Spotify or something.
3:16:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, maybe.
3:16:16
SPEAKER_02: I'd be like, come on, come on.
3:16:21
SPEAKER_02: Don't let the gayness in here.
3:16:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to start sucking cock.
3:16:26
SPEAKER_02: Switch.
3:16:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's not a great song.
3:16:35
all right well there we have billy squire that's how we got to
3:16:39
that oh because we
3:16:40
were talking about in the chat room yeah too good destroyed his
3:16:46
career yeah he did
3:16:47
all right what do you have to destroy our career to end this
3:16:52
all right well i got a
3:16:53
weird just kind of a weird story here okay and i just want to
3:16:56
get your opinion on
3:16:57
SPEAKER_02: it okay um
3:17:02
The note that I gave to myself on this,
3:17:06
note to self,
3:17:10
I think I called this more to the story.
3:17:13
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:17:15
SPEAKER_02: So see if you can figure out what's going on here.
3:17:18
SPEAKER_01: All right.
3:17:22
SPEAKER_02: The Marriott, the hotel.
3:17:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
3:17:26
SPEAKER_02: left the young family high and dry in sin city.
3:17:31
SPEAKER_02: Literally.
3:17:32
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:17:34
A dad has claimed that he and his wife and their three-year-old
3:17:37
were forced to
3:17:38
spend the nights sweating in their car after the brand new
3:17:43
element and AC hotel,
3:17:45
symphony park refused to honor their reservation all because he
3:17:50
didn't have a
3:17:50
SPEAKER_02: plastic credit card in hand.
3:17:54
SPEAKER_02: The only reason I had misplaced my physical plastic credit card,
3:17:59
SPEAKER_02: the furious guest revealed to one mile at a time,
3:18:06
SPEAKER_02: slamming the chain for stranding them in the Vegas heat.
3:18:10
SPEAKER_02: Instead of a cool Marriott suite,
3:18:13
his toddler curled up in the backseat with him and tried to
3:18:18
sleep in the passenger
3:18:19
SPEAKER_02: seat.
3:18:20
My young child and wife slept in our vehicle on a hot Las Vegas
3:18:24
night while I
3:18:25
SPEAKER_02: repeatedly sought help through every official channel.
3:18:29
SPEAKER_02: The Marriott Bonvoy Titanium Elite member fumed.
3:18:35
The kicker,
3:18:36
Marriott had actually promised digital check-in as a way to
3:18:39
skip the front desk.
3:18:41
SPEAKER_02: But when this desperate dad tried it,
3:18:45
SPEAKER_02: he alleged the so-called perk turned into a parking lot punishment.
3:18:51
SPEAKER_02: According to one mile at a time,
3:18:53
the general manager eventually sent a message that read more
3:18:56
like a script than an
3:18:57
SPEAKER_02: apology.
3:18:58
I do apologize for not being able to check you in without a
3:19:02
physical credit card
3:19:03
SPEAKER_02: being present at the time of check-in.
3:19:05
SPEAKER_02: At our property,
3:19:06
we do require a matching ID and a credit card to be run through
3:19:10
our chip and pin
3:19:11
SPEAKER_02: machine.
3:19:12
SPEAKER_02: I do sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
3:19:18
SPEAKER_02: Now you've gone to hotels.
3:19:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
3:19:21
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever been able to check into a hotel without a credit card?
3:19:25
SPEAKER_02: No, never, never.
3:19:28
And I'd go,
3:19:29
you know,
3:19:29
I,
3:19:30
I probably,
3:19:30
I'm probably in a hotel at least two dozen times a year.
3:19:35
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
3:19:36
Never have I been to a hotel where you didn't have a ID and a
3:19:41
credit card.
3:19:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, that's part of the game.
3:19:45
SPEAKER_02: It's like renting a car, same thing.
3:19:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
3:19:50
SPEAKER_02: And when the dad escalated his complaint,
3:19:52
corporate allegedly doubled down in a statement to him with
3:19:55
Marriott Breast saying
3:19:57
that the Vegas hotel was within its right to demand a physical
3:20:01
credit card and an
3:20:02
SPEAKER_02: ID.
3:20:03
Even while admitting their much-hyped digital and mobile
3:20:06
check-in doesn't always
3:20:08
SPEAKER_02: mean you can actually...
3:20:10
SPEAKER_02: Just check in.
3:20:11
The company acknowledged that the inconsistency between the
3:20:14
advertised amenities
3:20:16
SPEAKER_02: and the operational practices one mile reported,
3:20:20
SPEAKER_02: but offered no fix,
3:20:22
only noting that the dad's observation had been shared with our
3:20:26
internal team for
3:20:27
SPEAKER_02: further evaluation.
3:20:28
The guest statements words in his response,
3:20:31
accusing Marriott of false advertising.
3:20:34
When a company continues to promote a specific feature as an
3:20:38
inducement to a
3:20:39
SPEAKER_02: purchase,
3:20:40
SPEAKER_02: knowing it will not be delivered,
3:20:41
SPEAKER_02: the question ceases to be one of...
3:20:44
internal policy and becomes one of a deceptive trade practice
3:20:48
he fires back to the
3:20:50
travel site calling it a matter of consumer protection law he
3:20:54
stressed that he
3:20:54
wasn't asking Marriott to scrap digital check-in altogether
3:20:59
just to be honest about
3:21:00
it update the amenity list and spell out that the guests still
3:21:04
need a physical card
3:21:06
SPEAKER_02: in hand
3:21:07
SPEAKER_02: A straightforward edit of the property's amenity list,
3:21:11
SPEAKER_02: removing digital check-in,
3:21:13
SPEAKER_02: or clearly stating that a physical card is always required.
3:21:19
SPEAKER_02: I've never been to a hotel where you didn't have to have that.
3:21:22
SPEAKER_02: That's just one of the rules.
3:21:24
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:21:25
It would resolve the inconsistency and protect both the guests
3:21:28
and the Marriott
3:21:29
SPEAKER_02: from the risk of regulatory scrutiny.
3:21:33
SPEAKER_02: The post has reached out to Marriott for comment.
3:21:36
SPEAKER_02: It's not one...
3:21:38
It's not just one unlucky family catching flack from the
3:21:41
hospitality industry either.
3:21:44
SPEAKER_02: As the Post previously reported,
3:21:46
travelers around the globe are fuming after screenshots show
3:21:50
third-party hotel
3:21:51
booking sites hitting customers with a tipping request before
3:21:56
they even check out.
3:21:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the tipping thing is out of control in every industry.
3:22:03
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:22:03
And you might think slipping 20 to the front desk for an
3:22:06
upgrade was old school,
3:22:08
SPEAKER_02: but some luxury hotels are now cutting to the chase,
3:22:12
SPEAKER_02: practically shaking down guests for cash the moment they check in.
3:22:16
SPEAKER_02: One traveler told The View from the Wing earlier this week,
3:22:20
year that they were given a slip of paper pushing tipping along
3:22:25
with their key when
3:22:26
they checked in at the Marriott and another reader who admitted
3:22:30
they once felt
3:22:31
smugly happy we don't stay at a Marriott often anymore says one
3:22:36
smug said their
3:22:39
smugness didn't last long they allegedly were hit with the same
3:22:42
treatment at
3:22:43
SPEAKER_02: Boston's Hyatt Central Hotel right
3:22:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just crazy talk there, man.
3:22:53
SPEAKER_02: I have to have...
3:22:55
SPEAKER_02: Unless you're doing a pay-by-the-hour thing.
3:22:58
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:22:59
SPEAKER_02: You know, just to bang some broad or something.
3:23:01
SPEAKER_02: You know, one of them sleazy motels.
3:23:03
SPEAKER_02: Any reputable hotel, you've got to show a credit card.
3:23:07
SPEAKER_02: An ID and a credit card.
3:23:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, every time.
3:23:10
They want to see your driver's license or some kind of state ID
3:23:14
and a credit card.
3:23:16
You know,
3:23:17
I've never known anybody can just walk into a hotel and check
3:23:20
in without...
3:23:22
SPEAKER_02: You know, anything like that in hand.
3:23:24
SPEAKER_02: At what point did we start tipping the person that hands you the keys?
3:23:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
3:23:31
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever done that?
3:23:33
SPEAKER_02: No, I have never done that.
3:23:34
SPEAKER_02: I was going to say, I wouldn't do that either.
3:23:37
SPEAKER_02: That's your job, to hand me keys.
3:23:38
SPEAKER_02: I don't need to tip you for it.
3:23:39
SPEAKER_02: You're already getting paid.
3:23:44
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
3:23:44
SPEAKER_02: Am I crazy and thinking that tipping is just out of control now?
3:23:49
SPEAKER_02: I saw a thing yesterday on some news thing or something.
3:23:55
SPEAKER_02: It was some guy kicked over a kiosk in a mall or something.
3:24:01
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:24:02
SPEAKER_02: Because he had to order something.
3:24:04
SPEAKER_02: He ordered it on the kiosk.
3:24:06
SPEAKER_02: And the kiosk asked him for a tip.
3:24:09
SPEAKER_02: As he went to pay at a kiosk, it had a thing for a tip.
3:24:13
SPEAKER_02: And he got all stupid belligerent.
3:24:15
SPEAKER_02: He kicked it over, which then he got arrested.
3:24:17
SPEAKER_02: But...
3:24:18
you know but i mean what kind of is that now now we're tipping
3:24:23
what robots they
3:24:26
weren't put out to do anything i've never heard of that it's
3:24:30
it's getting out of
3:24:31
it's out of hand now you see videos of people when they deliver
3:24:36
the doordash like
3:24:37
you didn't tip me enough it's like yeah kidding me you're
3:24:42
you're doing a job where
3:24:43
SPEAKER_02: you're asking for voluntary tips
3:24:47
SPEAKER_02: Then you're going to chastise somebody for that?
3:24:49
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you.
3:24:51
SPEAKER_02: Tip is zero.
3:24:53
SPEAKER_02: Canceled order, fuck.
3:24:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:24:56
SPEAKER_02: Well,
3:24:56
SPEAKER_02: again,
3:24:57
SPEAKER_02: when you're in that service industry,
3:25:01
people have that expectation that you're going to give them a
3:25:06
certain percentage of
3:25:09
SPEAKER_02: whatever the total bill is.
3:25:11
SPEAKER_02: Which I still find in DoorDash world to be stupid.
3:25:16
SPEAKER_02: Tell me why I should tip.
3:25:20
SPEAKER_02: Let's say a standard tip for a pizza is $5.
3:25:22
SPEAKER_02: Does that sound reasonable?
3:25:25
SPEAKER_02: It sounds reasonable to me.
3:25:27
SPEAKER_02: It's a pizza.
3:25:27
SPEAKER_02: It's a pizza.
3:25:29
SPEAKER_02: So tell me why it should be $10 for two pizzas.
3:25:34
SPEAKER_02: It should be.
3:25:35
SPEAKER_02: It should be five.
3:25:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're bringing the same boxes together at the same time.
3:25:42
SPEAKER_02: You're just carrying an extra box.
3:25:44
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
3:25:45
If you made two separate trips or something,
3:25:49
but just carrying an extra box.
3:25:53
SPEAKER_02: And I have a couple of people in my life that do DoorDash.
3:25:58
SPEAKER_02: They will argue with you to the end.
3:26:00
SPEAKER_02: And my argument is, okay,
3:26:04
SPEAKER_02: If I go to,
3:26:05
SPEAKER_02: if I DoorDash,
3:26:07
SPEAKER_02: let's say I order a steak dinner from Applebee's,
3:26:11
SPEAKER_02: which admittedly that's a terrible idea.
3:26:13
SPEAKER_02: The steak will be just garbage.
3:26:15
But if I order a steak dinner from Applebee's and a steak
3:26:19
dinner from Outback,
3:26:20
SPEAKER_02: okay,
3:26:23
SPEAKER_02: each one is a steak dinner.
3:26:26
SPEAKER_02: Why would I pay more for you to deliver me the Outback steak than the
3:26:34
applebee's steak why would i tip you more you're still just
3:26:39
bringing me a steak
3:26:41
right well they're basing it on the uh the total bill and they
3:26:47
and they're putting
3:26:47
up yeah i know why i know what they're doing i'm saying they're
3:26:50
not right to do it
3:26:52
yeah and again that's that's how they're trying to determine
3:26:55
what the tip is worth
3:26:57
SPEAKER_02: i guess
3:26:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:26:59
SPEAKER_02: Just because the food is overpriced doesn't mean I got to tip you double.
3:27:03
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:27:03
SPEAKER_02: That's ridiculous.
3:27:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, you're doing the same fucking job.
3:27:08
SPEAKER_02: And I see Sal in here.
3:27:09
SPEAKER_02: You got to tip 20% minimum.
3:27:11
SPEAKER_02: Well, if they do good service, I'll tip them.
3:27:13
SPEAKER_02: I'll tip them more than 20%.
3:27:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm generally that guy that does 35 to 50 if they do me right.
3:27:21
SPEAKER_02: But if they don't do me right, I'm not paying.
3:27:23
SPEAKER_02: Like even if I do like order a pizza or something,
3:27:26
SPEAKER_02: a lot of times the pizza company will say,
3:27:31
SPEAKER_02: do you want to leave a tip?
3:27:33
SPEAKER_02: They're asking me to leave a tip before they get to the door.
3:27:37
SPEAKER_02: And I'll always say, yeah, $2.
3:27:40
SPEAKER_02: And then if they're good, I'll give them some more.
3:27:42
SPEAKER_02: I'll give them like three more dollars at the door or whatever.
3:27:45
SPEAKER_02: But if they're not, fuck you.
3:27:46
SPEAKER_02: I already paid my $2.
3:27:47
SPEAKER_02: Beat it, fuck.
3:27:49
SPEAKER_02: Because I want the service.
3:27:51
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, it used to be a trade.
3:27:56
SPEAKER_02: That's what tipping was, was a trade.
3:27:59
SPEAKER_02: You give me better service than everybody else and I'll give you money.
3:28:04
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that what tipping is?
3:28:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but from the standpoint of the customer, a tip is reward.
3:28:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
3:28:15
SPEAKER_02: It's a reward.
3:28:16
SPEAKER_02: And that's how I treat it is I'm happy to give,
3:28:21
SPEAKER_02: like at the bar,
3:28:22
SPEAKER_02: and you've seen me do this at the bar.
3:28:23
SPEAKER_02: When I get rolling at the bar.
3:28:26
SPEAKER_02: It is not uncommon for me to tip 50% on a big bill.
3:28:31
SPEAKER_02: If I've got everybody around me and it's $300,
3:28:35
SPEAKER_02: $400 or whatever,
3:28:36
SPEAKER_02: it is not crazy for me to tip another $150,
3:28:39
SPEAKER_02: $200.
3:28:39
SPEAKER_02: That's not crazy.
3:28:40
SPEAKER_02: But they've got to earn it.
3:28:46
If I'm sitting there waving at the fucking bartender every 10
3:28:49
minutes to bring me
3:28:50
SPEAKER_02: another drink,
3:28:51
SPEAKER_02: you know what you're getting for a tip?
3:28:52
SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
3:28:53
SPEAKER_02: Because you didn't keep my drink full.
3:28:55
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:28:56
SPEAKER_02: That's the only reason I'm paying you is to fucking take care of me.
3:29:00
SPEAKER_02: Ignore the guy at the bar and take care of me.
3:29:03
SPEAKER_02: If you do that, I'll tip you.
3:29:05
SPEAKER_02: If you don't, I won't.
3:29:06
SPEAKER_02: Well,
3:29:07
like I've told this story before that if I'm going to stay at a
3:29:11
hotel for a couple
3:29:13
SPEAKER_02: of days and if I go to the bar,
3:29:15
SPEAKER_02: I set the standard at the bar on the first day.
3:29:19
SPEAKER_02: And then every time I go in there, they jump to attention.
3:29:23
SPEAKER_01: Right.
3:29:24
You know,
3:29:24
so you get their attention at the very beginning and then
3:29:28
they...
3:29:29
SPEAKER_02: They see you and they're right there.
3:29:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, hello, Mr. Neely.
3:29:33
SPEAKER_02: Glad to see you're here tonight.
3:29:35
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
3:29:36
SPEAKER_02: I get that when I go into Sassy's down the street.
3:29:39
SPEAKER_02: The lady that owns the place, her name is Stephanie.
3:29:42
SPEAKER_02: And every time I walk in there, she says, hey, Chris, been a minute.
3:29:45
SPEAKER_02: Where you been?
3:29:46
SPEAKER_02: Hey, how you doing, Stephanie?
3:29:49
SPEAKER_02: And she comes right over, takes my order.
3:29:50
SPEAKER_02: She's the owner of the company.
3:29:52
SPEAKER_02: She comes over and takes my order.
3:29:54
She doesn't wait for her minions to do it because she knows I'm
3:29:56
going to throw some
3:29:57
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, tipping's just stupid now.
3:30:35
SPEAKER_02: It's way out of control.
3:30:37
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
3:30:38
SPEAKER_02: The entitlement of this fucking, well, you had your groceries delivered.
3:30:43
SPEAKER_02: You should tip me $38.
3:30:44
SPEAKER_02: Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
3:30:46
SPEAKER_02: For what?
3:30:48
SPEAKER_02: For driving some bags across town?
3:30:50
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you.
3:30:52
SPEAKER_02: Ten bucks.
3:30:55
SPEAKER_02: Get them here in ten minutes, then you can have more.
3:30:57
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:30:58
SPEAKER_02: Took you an hour?
3:30:59
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you.
3:30:59
SPEAKER_02: Ten bucks.
3:31:01
SPEAKER_02: And that's fair.
3:31:04
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, go ahead.
3:31:05
SPEAKER_02: Got one more to wrap this up?
3:31:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, maybe.
3:31:08
SPEAKER_02: Hang on just a second.
3:31:09
SPEAKER_02: We'll look at this here real quick.
3:31:12
SPEAKER_02: If not, we'll just call it.
3:31:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm into calling it.
3:31:15
SPEAKER_02: My back's up.
3:31:16
SPEAKER_02: I know you see me squirming over here.
3:31:18
Oh,
3:31:18
here's one real quick,
3:31:20
and I just want to know if you even think there's any merit to
3:31:23
this.
3:31:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
3:31:25
SPEAKER_02: Gen Z is so frugal,
3:31:29
SPEAKER_02: they're doctoring,
3:31:31
SPEAKER_02: quote unquote,
3:31:32
heavy sodas at the gas station fountains throughout the country
3:31:36
to make one drink
3:31:38
SPEAKER_02: last all day.
3:31:40
SPEAKER_01: What do you mean by doctoring it?
3:31:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, let's find out.
3:31:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:31:44
Gen Z is doctoring heavy sodas at gas station fountains
3:31:49
throughout the country.
3:31:50
SPEAKER_02: The phenomenon is deeply connected to the economic realities.
3:31:54
Making one drink last all day is a practical response to having
3:31:58
little money to
3:31:59
SPEAKER_02: play with and trying to stretch...
3:32:01
limited budgets at many gas stations across the midwest and the
3:32:06
south gen zers have
3:32:07
discovered heavy options of soda fountain machines where the
3:32:12
syrup to the water
3:32:13
ratio is boosted for extra sweetness and flavor i haven't heard
3:32:18
i haven't seen that
3:32:19
i'm gonna be honest i don't drink that i don't yeah i don't
3:32:21
either i don't either
3:32:22
SPEAKER_02: thanks
3:32:23
The drinks are intentionally made stronger to withstand
3:32:27
dilution from melting ice
3:32:28
SPEAKER_02: allowing the soda to taste like it typically does as the ice melts.
3:32:33
The hack appeals to those who purchase a single large drink and
3:32:38
keep adding ice and
3:32:39
water throughout the day effectively extending the life and the
3:32:43
value of each
3:32:44
SPEAKER_02: purchase.
3:32:45
SPEAKER_02: Gen Z shaped by rising inflation,
3:32:49
SPEAKER_02: stagnant wages,
3:32:50
and lingering effects of the pandemic era disruptions faces an
3:32:55
economic environment
3:32:57
SPEAKER_02: where disposable income is scarce and the financial thrift is necessary.
3:33:02
Budgeting and saving are essential tools for navigating
3:33:05
uncertain times and small
3:33:07
SPEAKER_02: hacks like heavy soda embody this mindset.
3:33:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:33:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:33:14
SPEAKER_02: If people are doing that, then they're dumb as two stumps.
3:33:17
Because first of all,
3:33:18
just to buy the one drink is going to be like $3,
3:33:20
$4.
3:33:20
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:33:22
SPEAKER_02: To buy the one drink.
3:33:24
SPEAKER_02: You can buy a box of Crystal Light or whatever,
3:33:28
SPEAKER_02: you know,
3:33:30
SPEAKER_02: of whatever flavor you want,
3:33:31
SPEAKER_02: whether it's fruit punch or tea or whatever.
3:33:35
SPEAKER_02: whatever you want, for like $2, and that'll get you 10 cups, you know.
3:33:41
That'll get you 10 cups,
3:33:42
and you can fill it at your house for nothing,
3:33:44
for water.
3:33:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:33:45
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
3:33:47
SPEAKER_02: Do I doubt this is happening?
3:33:49
SPEAKER_02: No.
3:33:51
I'm sure there's a lot of fucking loser kids that are hanging
3:33:54
out by the Slurpee machine.
3:33:56
SPEAKER_02: We used to as kids too.
3:33:58
You know,
3:33:58
we used to hang out in there and try and,
3:34:01
you know,
3:34:01
keep refilling the cups.
3:34:03
SPEAKER_02: But after three, after about an hour or so, we'd leave.
3:34:07
SPEAKER_02: You know, you just get bored with that.
3:34:09
SPEAKER_02: I don't, I'm not believing.
3:34:10
SPEAKER_02: So what they're saying is they get it super high level.
3:34:15
fructose or whatever and then they just keep pouring water in
3:34:18
yeah exactly adding
3:34:19
ice and adding water through the day and basically diluting it
3:34:23
as the day goes on
3:34:25
just to make it last all day that sounds like an awful lot of
3:34:29
work for a generation
3:34:30
SPEAKER_02: that doesn't want to do any work
3:34:32
no that's what i was saying i i don't believe people are doing
3:34:36
this yeah i don't
3:34:37
believe this at all yeah i believe this is some wise tale wives
3:34:41
tale that somebody
3:34:42
told one story somewhere and some dick reporter just said yeah
3:34:46
let's let's go with
3:34:47
SPEAKER_02: that that's a good story it's just like that old story or that old uh uh
3:34:53
you buy your gasoline in the morning because you can get more
3:34:56
in your tank,
3:34:58
SPEAKER_02: you know,
3:35:00
SPEAKER_02: before it gets warm and it expands.
3:35:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
3:35:06
SPEAKER_02: It's a good answer.
3:35:07
SPEAKER_02: Dumb.
3:35:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is dumb.
3:35:09
all right well let's get out of here all right we've given the
3:35:13
kids enough it
3:35:14
wasn't the wasn't the most uh fire brand show but uh you got a
3:35:19
show it was fun
3:35:21
people like that i asked earlier people said it was a great
3:35:23
show so yeah so good
3:35:25
well i'm glad everybody enjoyed that's all that's all i care
3:35:28
about yep all right
3:35:30
SPEAKER_02: well we'll be back next uh saturday everybody have a happy thanksgiving
3:35:36
whatever it is that you're doing and we'll see you back here
3:35:42
again same bat time
3:35:44
same bat channel so happy Thanksgiving and have a great and
3:35:49
enjoyable week yes so
3:35:52
SPEAKER_02: we're gonna get out of here I'm gonna leave you with some riot
3:35:55
with outlaw cool so so until next saturday night this is neely
3:36:00
along with my very
3:36:01
SPEAKER_02: good friend turkey gobbler and that's it we're out we're gone bye kids