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- 0:00I think the really interesting trend moving forward though is
- 0:03the proliferation of AI agents and and we think that we can act
- 0:07as a critical gateway to AI agents moving forward.
- 0:21Hello and welcome to the Retail Podcast.
- 0:24Now today we're going to go into an area that I love and have had
- 0:27lots of experience with. And I'm really curious to to
- 0:32dive directly into Andrew Doyle, who's VP of frontline of Jabra
- 0:37to talk about empowering, which I'm pretty sure frontline
- 0:42workers as he's the VP for frontline workers at Jabra.
- 0:45And so some of you may or may not know Jabra.
- 0:48So Andrew, why don't you set the scene for us?
- 0:50You know who is Jabra and then bring it down to frontline
- 0:54workers? What are you guys doing in this
- 0:55space? Thanks, Alex.
- 0:57Well, firstly, thanks for giving us the opportunity, Sir, to join
- 1:00you on the podcast. A little bit of background to
- 1:02Jabra. So actually Jabra's part of a
- 1:05Danish group called GNGN, still Noor actually 156 years old.
- 1:09That's what that matters. And a little anecdote.
- 1:13GN was the first company to create telegraphic communication
- 1:17between China and the rest of the world.
- 1:19So a little anecdote for you. And we like to think that we're
- 1:23still in the world of communicating and connecting
- 1:24people. Even now.
- 1:26We have 3 divisions. We have our hearing division.
- 1:29So one of the world leaders in, in, in hearing aids.
- 1:32We have the cool part of our company, which is the gaming
- 1:34division. So for the gamers out there, we
- 1:37we have a brand called Steel Series, which again one of the
- 1:40world leaders in in gaming gear. So everything from headsets to
- 1:44keyboards to mice. And then we have the enterprise
- 1:46division, which is the business that frontline resides.
- 1:49And I think probably a lot of your listeners will be aware of
- 1:54Jabra through products, speaker phones, headsets, even video
- 1:58collaboration products that were particularly targeted with, with
- 2:01the desk based or the knowledge worker.
- 2:03So that's kind of our our pedigree.
- 2:05And you can probably sort of perceive the synergies that
- 2:08exist across the group in terms of our technology capabilities,
- 2:12particularly around audio and IT.
- 2:13You know, we've, we're particularly intrigued in this
- 2:15sort of frontline worker space. We, we made the strategic
- 2:19decision to, to invest in what we think is a great market
- 2:22opportunity of frontline workers and particularly retail because
- 2:26we think we can add some value in that space.
- 2:29And it's, it's really around the provision of, you know, superior
- 2:33audio technology towards the front line and towards retail
- 2:38workers. And that is sort of to improve
- 2:41collaboration through what we think of as human to human
- 2:44communication, but also human to machine communication,
- 2:47particularly the proliferation of AI.
- 2:49So kind of what brings us into the space.
- 2:51Yeah. And we we look forward to trying
- 2:54to build sort of our business and build improved solutions in
- 2:58the forthcoming years. I sort of get the play that
- 3:01you're making in terms of your, everyone who works in enterprise
- 3:05is aware of the brand, they've seen the headsets, they've had
- 3:08some working relationship with you.
- 3:10If if you've worked, as you said, you're a knowledge worker
- 3:13or, or been in the enterprise environment, what, what, what
- 3:17makes you feel or what was the research or what was the element
- 3:20that made you guys feel that there was, this is a great time
- 3:24to go into a market that has existed for a long time.
- 3:28So it's a, it's a tough move, I think, but I'm curious about
- 3:33those elements. You will already know, but what
- 3:35well, we're really good in this area.
- 3:37We're really good in this and that's what we see is needed.
- 3:40I'm curious what what those areas?
- 3:44Well, I think we're seeing this sort of, I mean, you know,
- 3:47retail in particular is constantly looking to drive
- 3:51productivity, customer service engagement of of associates.
- 3:56And we're starting to see I think the recognition that, you
- 4:00know, improving communication through.
- 4:03So what we hear this phrase digitalisation at the front line
- 4:06and sort of phrase, I think that's been been used for a
- 4:08while. What we're seeing is sort of the
- 4:10sort of what we regard as key partners of ours like sort of
- 4:13Microsoft Zebra Technologies and now building really strong
- 4:18digital capabilities in their software platforms for two way
- 4:22communication push to talk applications such as work cloud
- 4:26sync teams, walkie-talkie. We're seeing those that
- 4:29proliferation of those devices of those sort of software
- 4:32application. And what we think is that
- 4:34actually there is a real value add that we can bring from
- 4:38superior audio and pods essentially.
- 4:42And yeah, we think that's a sort of a missing component today,
- 4:46the quality of audio as we think ultimately you know those if you
- 4:50can enhance communication, you can increase productivity,
- 4:53accurate two way communication, customer service, giving better
- 4:57information directly to your associate enables them to be
- 5:00more engaging with customers. And of course that in itself
- 5:04provides better engagement for the for the worker.
- 5:06I think the really interesting trend moving forward though is a
- 5:10proliferation of AI agents and and we think that we can act as
- 5:14a critical gateway to AI agents moving forward.
- 5:17In what way? What?
- 5:19Unpack that for me What? What you mean by that?
- 5:21Yeah, I mean, so if we think about the fact that voice is the
- 5:26most natural way for us to communicate and it seems to be
- 5:30now a general building consensus, the voice will be the
- 5:33interface to AI agents as there was a clear productivity game.
- 5:37So I was in preparation today. I was, I was looking at sort of
- 5:41some data points and they consider that that was really
- 5:44interesting. The human brain, we can process
- 5:46around 500 to 600 words per minute in thought.
- 5:49And we when we speak, we can essentially speak at a speed
- 5:52around 200 to 300 words per minute.
- 5:55But once we tie, that drops to between 40 and 70.
- 6:00So essentially we speak four times faster than we tie.
- 6:03It's even higher actually if you compare it to typing with sort
- 6:06of a small handheld device. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 6:09So I'm fairly certain that we're fairly certain the voice is
- 6:12going to be the interface to AI, to voice driven applications and
- 6:16particularly AI agents. So we think voice is going to be
- 6:20critical. Why do, let's say headsets
- 6:22matter? You think about sort of really
- 6:25fundamentally what the headsets do.
- 6:26They do two things. They allow you to operate heads
- 6:29up and hands free. That's a term we use a lot and
- 6:32typically people working on the front line are multitasking by
- 6:35nature. They're having to communicate
- 6:37while undertaking another task. So the ability to operate, if
- 6:41you have to pull out a handheld device to interact, to update
- 6:45information, actually quite cumbersome.
- 6:47It slows down productivity. So that's one big advantage.
- 6:50Headset then increasingly important is, is audio
- 6:54intelligence, so the importance of obviously being able to hear
- 6:59information accurately. So I use the example of an AI
- 7:03agent understanding what the AI agent's telling you, but really
- 7:06critically able to update the AI agent accurately.
- 7:10So the audio intelligibility headsets improve that
- 7:13significantly then using sort of, yeah, let's say a detached
- 7:18speaker. So that's where we think we play
- 7:21a role. And you know, as organisations
- 7:24are considering the deployment of AII, think the consideration
- 7:29of hardware, specifically the audio device, is actually going
- 7:33to become quite important. I got you.
- 7:36So again, please correct me if I'm wrong.
- 7:38So you're ultimately complementing the device the
- 7:42whoever the the retailer is using, whatever device they're
- 7:46using that has some form of audio capability.
- 7:50That's that's where where you guys are playing, right?
- 7:53Exactly so we. The handheld device as well or
- 7:57or anything like like Zebra? No, I mean it's anything.
- 8:00No, exactly. So we connect to the Zebra
- 8:02device and if that was running an application that could be a
- 8:05voice based, a voice enabled application or game.
- 8:08Yeah, they all, they all. Have right, all of them have a
- 8:10some form of push the. Tool for.
- 8:13Voice capability now. Exactly.
- 8:16So you're enhancing that that capability basically through the
- 8:19parameters of being heads up and hands free.
- 8:22Then increasingly important this this principle of audio
- 8:24intelligibility. I mean we have sort of a data
- 8:27point around transcription. So of course how you do this
- 8:30transcript audio through to text.
- 8:33If you take a an enterprise grade products such as Jabras,
- 8:37we will achieve the sort of transcription accuracy of around
- 8:4096%, something like really, yeah, which is compared to let's
- 8:45say a standard consumer grade headset that will be as low as
- 8:4964% in the world where you, you know, you are actually updating
- 8:53key data for maybe to drive workflows actually that that
- 8:58level of inaccuracy becomes comes, you know, quite
- 9:01significantly problematic. So thinkers, organisations are
- 9:05thinking forward towards sort of again using voice LED
- 9:10applications. Everybody needs to think about
- 9:13the hardware components. So yes, the clarity and the
- 9:15accuracy is what I'm hearing, right.
- 9:17That's really down to the, the quality of that mic picking up
- 9:21is, is the difference between with you having to repeat lost
- 9:25productivity in lost communication, How how sorry, go
- 9:30on. No.
- 9:31I was going to say these as we think about the microphone
- 9:33technology, you know, typically that microphone technology needs
- 9:35to work in noisy environments. Yeah.
- 9:38Yeah. So you think some sort of noise
- 9:39cancelling or? Yeah.
- 9:41Exactly. But is that what we're talking?
- 9:43I mean, like, are your devices noise cancel?
- 9:45I'm giving them a bit of a geek and nerd.
- 9:47I'm I'm curious, like, are you cancelling noise?
- 9:50Are you doing that sort of stuff?
- 9:52What's? What's going on?
- 9:53So that's where sort of the secret sauce is, if you like, is
- 9:56a, is a business. We, we, I think it's consumers,
- 9:58we tend to think of noise cancelling from the point of
- 10:01receive. So typically a lot of us will
- 10:03have, you know, will listen to music using noise cancelling on
- 10:06a plane and you know, you hit that button and it's quite
- 10:08transformational, that experience.
- 10:09Yeah, yeah. But essentially we, we, we do
- 10:12that so we, we can reduce the noise for you as a listener.
- 10:15But I think really importantly, we through noise cancelling
- 10:19microphone technology and digital algorithms and we're
- 10:21able to essentially create the same effect.
- 10:24But when you are transmitting, so essentially we are able to
- 10:27cancel that, that, that bubble of noise around the microphone.
- 10:30So the, everything that's transmitted is your voice.
- 10:33Again, that's where the you know, that's where the the smart
- 10:36technology comes in. You don't do one for podcasters
- 10:41any amount of conferences I go to and then we have to spend so
- 10:45much time digitally deleting all the background noise.
- 10:50And I've, and it's interesting because a lot of the consumables
- 10:54for, for consumers microphones are now coming with sort of some
- 10:59form of noise cancelling. And, and I think what that's
- 11:02really good because if you're getting that consumer grade,
- 11:04then your business is still using archaic whatever methods
- 11:08for, for, for it's, you know, it's I, I can imagine because
- 11:12I've had those things in my ear on a shift and they are really
- 11:15problematic and they do 'cause headaches and they have all of
- 11:18these other things as they it. Opens up a whole world really I
- 11:22think I mean this is sort of what makes again has come back
- 11:25to why we think we have an interesting the original
- 11:28question. Why do you think we have a a
- 11:30sort of a business opportunity here?
- 11:31I think it's because once you, if you believe I met my first
- 11:36couple of weeks in this role, I met UK retailer and they're on a
- 11:40journey of thinking about how they can provide AI agents for
- 11:45for employee guidance, how to tools super great.
- 11:48They're a really brilliant proof of concept that they're running.
- 11:51You know, the, the, the, the IT lead was of the opinion.
- 11:54If I don't get the device right, the headset doesn't work.
- 11:57This falls over. It's all that heavy lifting in
- 11:59the back end actually almost hinges on how good the quality
- 12:04endpoint devices and you know they see that from audio
- 12:07intelligibility. You know the product, you know
- 12:10the audio transmission needs to be good enough, but also you
- 12:12think about these are personal devices.
- 12:15We I think we will be asking a lot of retail associates to wear
- 12:19comfort becomes important. And is it available in the
- 12:23market right now or are you how, where are you in your
- 12:25development? Yeah.
- 12:26So we've, we've, we've had a product to the market for for a
- 12:30few years, but we, we which was is a, a more classic Bluetooth
- 12:35product Perform 45. And now we've just launched a
- 12:39new product called the Perform 75.
- 12:40I've got 1 here in front of me. The the, the.
- 12:45Yes it. Is the one the mic?
- 12:47OK, got you. So this one is a mic and then if
- 12:49you for comparison, then you have I'm concerned the Bluetooth
- 12:52will kick in. But essentially this is them
- 12:54more classic Bluetooth style device.
- 12:57And I think you know what we some of the attributes that I
- 13:01think are important and all our devices with the fall is the
- 13:05interoperability. So all of our products we build,
- 13:09we work with Microsoft Zebra seller, all the key brush to
- 13:13talk vendors. We ensure that our products
- 13:15integrate seamlessly. So there's this notion that, you
- 13:18know, this would fall down straight away if yes, I've got a
- 13:22handset, but I need to take, need to take the handheld out of
- 13:24my pocket every time I take a call, yes, I take a call needs
- 13:27to work, needs to be fully in top.
- 13:29So, so yeah, that's, that's key. So working closely with the
- 13:33partners around that into interoperability.
- 13:36So the two products are out. Yeah.
- 13:39And we're pretty excited about what, you know, the, the, the
- 13:41early response has been really positive so far.
- 13:44And again, final technical geek question, but what's the, what's
- 13:47the battery life? These are the important
- 13:50questions. This is not normal, but you
- 13:52know, I'm thinking if I'm going to deploy this, what was the
- 13:55battery life on these things? I think it's interesting with
- 13:58this product. So this is the perform 75.
- 14:00So this is a a larger this, this product's been designed to work
- 14:03across all the way from sort of the back of store in sort of
- 14:08warehouse environment or stores environment all the way to the
- 14:10front of the house. To answer your question
- 14:11specifically, we'll achieve 30 hours of battery life with this.
- 14:15So this will easily do multiple shift.
- 14:18But we've done that. I don't know, sort of yeah, I
- 14:21don't know how easy this works on the podcast, but so yeah,
- 14:23yeah, it got you, you know, you essentially once we've done with
- 14:26this designs a few things that are unique.
- 14:29So we created the modular product.
- 14:30So we actually have you can essentially deploy the headband
- 14:35to all of your social, the mic. That's crazy.
- 14:37Exactly. And then the the, the smarts of
- 14:39the product, you would just deploy what was needed to cover
- 14:42a full shift. And then we essentially have
- 14:44created what we call a hot swappable battery, which means
- 14:47you can charge in between shifts and then the associate would
- 14:50arrive in the morning, grab their personal headband wheels,
- 14:54have a neck bands and alternative wearing style.
- 14:56It would simply grab one of these and one of these from the
- 15:00charging Bay since they connect that and then they're up and
- 15:03running. And then with the ease of sort
- 15:05of connectivity, so simple tap to pair functionality on
- 15:09Bluetooth essentially, then you have them up and running really
- 15:12quickly. And that's been sort of key for
- 15:14us. So we've thought about shift
- 15:16work, we've thought about shared device, we've thought about
- 15:19power management and we've thought about ease of use from
- 15:22trying to build this. And you know, you come back to
- 15:24the microphone, yes, it is a long microphone.
- 15:26And I think you know, we shy away from that as consumers to
- 15:29an extent. This comes back to to the audio
- 15:32intelligibility. Yeah.
- 15:33You want it. Just me if you want some people
- 15:34to hear you or not, Yeah. Well, this will, this will
- 15:37create 99% noise cancellation. So there's a huge specific fit
- 15:41in terms of being able to be heard.
- 15:43And again, that's important. If I'm speaking, you and I are
- 15:46speaking now it's equally important if you're then, you
- 15:49know, working towards a voice activated application where the
- 15:52accuracy of what you're saying becomes really important, that
- 15:56there's a dangerous, you set up a workflow which is wrong.
- 16:00So that becomes really important.
- 16:01So yes, that's what that's kind of I, I sort of went a bit
- 16:03further than your question, but you're sending it.
- 16:05Yeah. As I said, it's an area that
- 16:08I've worked in for a long time. So I'm, I personally, I'm
- 16:10curious about what, what the future of this area looks like.
- 16:14So, but with that, I'm going to be respectful to your time and
- 16:18say thank you very much. It's been great.
- 16:20If people want to find out more information about yourself and
- 16:24the the stuff that you've been showing us, where, where, where
- 16:27should they go? If they go to jabra.com and the
- 16:30perform sub page within jabra.com, you'll see all about
- 16:34our products and I think we have links to to the team to connect.
- 16:38Wonderful. Andrew, thank you so much.
- 16:41Thank you, Alex. Appreciate it.