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Midnight at the Oasis · That Car Show

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Well, welcome back to that car show.
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I'm Lindsay and this week the gang is all back together.
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Both of the guys are with me, Ryan and Dan.
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Hi guys. How are you?
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It's. Good to see you just back from
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my shift at Best Buy. I haven't done any stunts at any
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movies and stuff, so I feel like I might be letting you guys down
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tonight. Yeah, but a good show last week.
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Thanks. Robert, thank you.
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Yeah, but I feel like you were out doing your best impression
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of a stunt driver because you had a pretty interesting road to
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Cela, which I also want to hear about.
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But can you tell us a little bit about the very adventurous, very
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exciting route that you took to get to this very unique event?
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Yeah, So we went to Seema the hard way and I, I say the hard
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way and I say we, I was actually a a passenger Princess from the
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journey. So I didn't actually drive, but
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I was kind of in a leadership role.
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But Seema obviously is the world's biggest automotive trade
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show, takes place once a year in our favorite place, Vegas.
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And we organized a rally where we decided that we would go to
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SEMA but not do tarmac, so not at.
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All. Well, I think we traveled 200
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miles of which probably about 30 miles with tarmac.
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It's pretty yeah, that counts no as no tarmac for sure.
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Yeah. And if you think about it, it
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was long days. It was like 9-10 hour days.
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Wow. In the desert.
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Wow. So for what is normally like a
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four hour or five hour drive. Yeah.
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So, yeah, so we we met in Palm Springs, we had 27 rigs of
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different kinds and types and there was everything from the
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folks that have got, you know, all the set up, the people in
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stock, Defenders and Lexuses. Alexis is the Lexi we're going.
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To go with Lexi here at that car show that's.
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Right. It's official.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So we, we had a great tour guide, a guy called Martin.
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He'd done the route the week before, so he knew what to
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expect, but none of us did. We set off from Palm Springs.
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We ventured out to this track and he said to us like, we're
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going to go really quickly but carefully for the next sort of 2
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miles. And that's because it was an
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active shooting range, so either side of the track, people are
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allowed to shoot their guns. So we were safe.
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But yeah, it was interesting. That's a.
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Pretty wild lead in or he's like nothing to be alarmed, just with
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a quickness. Nothing to see here, move along.
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Right. So then we got.
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One way to light a fire under your butts, right?
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Definitely. Don't mind the live ammo.
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Carry on. Yeah.
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Definitely something that we wanted to get through, but then
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everyone aired down. So we we took this very
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seriously in terms of, you know, down to 20 PSI, you know,
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convoying. We all had rugged radios, so
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rugged radios and sponsored and given us radios.
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So the whole convoy was, you know, talking to each other as
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we were kind of taking this trip.
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It was I was a passenger in a modified F-150 so almost like a
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pre runner trophy truck type thing.
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But. But it was, yeah, a lot of fun,
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a lot of camaraderie. We spent the end of day one or
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stayed overnight at auto camp in Joshua Tree.
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So if you're not aware, this is a, and I think there's a few of
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them around the US, but it's Airstreams.
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Oh. How fun.
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So you allocated your Airstream. So it's a bit of blamping, yeah.
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Exactly. You're offering, Yeah.
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I was kind of hoping for a Four Seasons, but sadly that didn't
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turn out. So yeah, we were clamping for
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the night. Each each caravan had its own
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fire pit. So but it kind of felt well
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deserved after day one. Day 2, we had to be on the track
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at 7:00 AM. That was the only way we would
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get to Vegas before sunset. Oh my gosh.
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So another day of off roading, tighter trials.
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There were a couple of trials that were just completely open
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and we were able to just go for it in the middle of the trip.
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We got to this like farm and it was an active farm that did like
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animal feed, but in, in essence, you had like a number of massive
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green circles, which is where they were irrigating and
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watering. But this was in like in the, it
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was like coming across an Oasis. Like it was just unbelievable.
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I'll be very careful. It was a farm shaped Oasis a.
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Farm shaped Oasis, but it was just like the aerial views of
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this is desert, desert, desert and just these green patches,
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but big patches. And then eventually we rolled
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into Sema in time, which was great.
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But the valets, the valet looks were like what, what?
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What have you guys brought? Right.
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You're expecting us to deal with this?
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Yeah, so that was that was our adventure pre seamer.
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So can I, can I interrupt real quick?
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Is this something you enjoyed off roading?
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I mean, you are traditionally sort of an on road, a tarmac
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guy. Were you, were you tempted by
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the taste of an off roading nuts and honey?
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I mean, is this maybe you didn't have that commercial in the UK,
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but is this something you would you could see doing yourself and
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and pursuing again, was this? Yeah, absolutely.
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It's, I think having a guide, it really makes it right.
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Yeah, so we we had a really great guide and you know Martin
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and the team kept us safe. There was various points where
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they would spot for us. There's one bit where we kind of
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got to this gully and there was like a big steep sandy hill and
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they would basically coach each each car through that.
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And what was interesting is the the actual the car that did the
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best in that specific thing apart from the pre runner was a
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stock defender on Steely's. Really.
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So. Well, how timely that's.
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Right, you can share that. Story with people.
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You might be meeting Lindsay. That's amazing.
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I was going to ask you, were there any standouts kind of one
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way or another? And so would you?
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Was it like a dune, basically like a sand dune?
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Yeah, like a like a big steep sandhill.
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I guess that's a dune, is it? Yeah, yeah.
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We call them Sandhills in the UK.
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I don't know if that's formal or not, but I do.
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That's not as foreboding. I don't.
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Know yeah, and there's definitely I mean, nobody says
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my favorite movie was Sandhill, but here we go.
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Those are cranes, right? But you did the, you know, the
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very best part about this was, was that you did it in someone
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else's vehicle, right? That's I think the best kind of
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off roading is when you're off roading in someone else's truck,
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right? Yeah, yeah, it's like boats,
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isn't it? Exactly.
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It's like a lot There is, there really is.
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You know, I was looking back through some of my like defender
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off roading footage today and it really does make all the
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difference like I think you experienced and having a guide,
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it's just sort of this because I don't know, have you done much
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off roading before this? A little bit, but nothing like
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in the UK is like green landing and things like that.
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So which is is not really the same level of rugged terrain.
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Is it as remote as you were on this trip?
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I think different remotes, but yeah, I mean on this trip our
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cell phones didn't work the whole time.
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Really. How you know?
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Which was really nice, believe it or not.
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Yeah, it's a nice break, right? Yeah, The reason I asked if you
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enjoyed it is I've done a couple of these adventures, right,
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these organized things and I I absolutely love it, right.
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It's a slower pace. It's it's, you know, yeah, I
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don't know. It's and I always come back from
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these things thinking, well, I'm going to go buy a Land Rover or
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a Forerunner or something. Of course I never do because
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real life. But I absolutely could see
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getting into it. And glad to glad to hear that
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you enjoyed it too. I think the one thing for me is
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you develop more of a camaraderie.
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So, you know, imagine if you're doing AI, don't know a track
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session or you're doing a rally, you're not going to get to that
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same level of camaraderie because you haven't overcome
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these things together, right? Yeah, what?
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Was the strangest thing you saw out in the desert.
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See any UFOs or anything? Well, I think it was that Oasis,
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like just coming across the Oasis and then we had to like go
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around it respectfully. So we slowed down and we took
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took a ride, but it's just really surreal.
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Like, you know, green, the greenest, whatever it was, the
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greenest you've ever seen. So you've got all these like,
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great, you know, Sandy and. And then just green, bright
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green, Yeah. Yeah, no crops, better places
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for that deserts, but yeah. Right.
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Yeah, They might be doing something right if they're still
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in business. Yeah, You know, they were just
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trying to make you feel at home. They're like, we need some crop
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circles for Dan and so we're going to put a farm here.
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There's still a thing crop circles like it's all you heard
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about there for. Yeah.
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OK. All right.
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Yeah. And it was people doing it,
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wasn't it? It was people messing with
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people. That's what they ultimately like
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believe that's that was the final answer for now until we
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hear otherwise. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So is that I wonder if it's like artisan animal feed and they're
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like right. But was this grown in the
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deserts of Nevada? Was this from the Oasis farm?
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Because that is all that my dogs will eat.
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Come on. Yeah.
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The only thing that. Sound like a That whole stretch
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was a date shake, right? That's pretty wild, but OK, so
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defenders and the pre runner trophy truck, those were the
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winners. Yeah, and the Jeeps did really
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well. It was like 3392 Jeeps.
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Is it 392? It's the ones with the HEMI
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engines where they're like, this is the last version of it.
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And then they go, and here's a new, a new last version of it,
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right? But they did very well as well.
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You know, if you've got anything that you can just unlock the
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sway bar, you know, you can go down to the low, you can crawl
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across these rocks, you're going to do really well.
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Not a lot of Tiguans in that crew, huh?
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I didn't see any. I think there was a couple of
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like wrecks on the side of the, you know, the tig ones that
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never made. It.
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Vaguely resembled a Tiguan that had attempted going to see me
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the hard way. Well, I love the name of the
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rally. Like that in itself puts a smile
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on your face and you know you're in for a good time.
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OK, so you had this epic adventure to then kick off Yet
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another epic adventure of a very different sort.
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So what did you think of Seema? Like tell us.
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Everything. My mind was blown.
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Have you both been to Seema? I have not.
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OK, you. You've been Ryan.
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I went a couple years ago. We at the time was doing the
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steering committee and we had a sponsor Swiss Tracks and we
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thought we had won the lottery when they said here, take our,
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our passes, our, our exhibitor passes to go to Seema.
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Oh wow. But you know, I, I, in
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retrospect, I had no way they were probably so ready to give
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them up. But I think for me, what colored
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my experience was sort of the event before the event.
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We flew, we somehow got diverted to Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport,
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which I think might be the worst airport in the continental US.
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And then we had to find a rental car along with the rest of the
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airport when all the flights were delayed or cancelled for
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some reason and then drive. So it was already like dark out.
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And then we had to find the rental car, then drive to Vegas.
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And we got a late start because we had to wait 3 or 4 hours
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before our Pelican cases came down on the carousels.
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And if you've ever stood and stared at a luggage carousel for
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any length of time, it's hypnotic, especially after three
13:27
hours. And eventually, you know, they,
13:30
they appeared, we got in the world's stinkiest rental car.
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I don't know if you've ever rented a car from like one of
13:36
those cheaper rental outfits, like a dollar or a fox or a, you
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know, thrifty, you know, well, this was from one of those.
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So the car had almost certainly like transported a dead body at
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some point in time. It just maybe multiple.
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Bodies, yeah. Yeah, to dispose of in that
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desert. So I will admit that by the time
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we finally got to SEMA, I at least was cranky and tired.
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And the last thing I needed was, you know, hotel room with, you
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know, the the drifting 24/7 and the Dan I.
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And if this is this was my impression.
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I felt like I was at a party where I didn't know anyone,
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right? It was overwhelming.
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There was it was there was too much.
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I didn't really speak the language for the most part.
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Certainly there was some crossover, but I just didn't
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really feel like it's kind of like Vegas, right?
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You're a Vegas person or you're not a Vegas person.
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And I think seems kind of the same way.
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And I don't think I'm a Sema person at heart.
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That said, we did have some fun. We did the boring tunnel tunnel,
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which I think you did as well, which which I appreciate only
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for like the the relative calm and solace of being in a Tesla,
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you know, in a in a cave beneath Vegas.
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But yeah, it's one of those like maybe every five year things for
14:51
me, if that, yeah. It was.
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I didn't get. Any solace in the Tesla because
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the lady in front thought she was auditioning for the voice so
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Lord. You're trapped.
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I was. Trapped in a tunnel with a lady
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who was singing some sort of thing that represented music and
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I literally had no way to escape.
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So that was my traumatic boring tunnel experience.
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Well, OK, so. For those who don't know, which
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I am one of those because you get in line to get in the cars
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and they just pair you with whoever you're in line with
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because how did you end up with, yeah, you know, the next opera
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Sayer has? Built a tunnel network
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underneath Vegas right as part of his boring company.
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Is it a? Network, Dan, Or is it a tunnel?
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I think we're. Being met right here.
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Because is it a network? No.
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OK, because. They're opening up, I think in
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two months time they're opening up the airport.
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So the airport will go straight downtown, OK.
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So I would class that as a network.
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Well, the airport. Is kind of downtown, shall we
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say? It's a a budding network, a
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budding. Network A growing network.
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Of tunnels. It didn't, if I recall.
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Yeah, you kind of have to take it because there aren't a lot of
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options, right, To get from like one end to the other, right.
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The conference room. Yeah.
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I. Mean you can walk like is your
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other option, but but it's interesting because they haven't
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quite yet got the autonomy. So at the moment it's drivers.
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And then when you go in the tunnel, you don't realize it as
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a passenger, but it's all lit with special lighting and the
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lighting is giving the driver signals.
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So if the lighting goes red, slow down.
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If the lighting goes green, speed up so you're oblivious to
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it initially. But I started talking to a
16:37
different lady who wasn't singing like a banshee and she
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was explaining what all these lights meant in the tunnels.
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Interesting. It's.
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Not just for a show, no. No, it's not just there for your
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entertainment. It was.
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Yeah, well. Maybe be glad you had the
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singing because I kept waiting for something to happen.
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Like it was like a like a dark ride in an amusement park.
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I kept waiting for something like jump out some the boiling
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tunnel. Jumps or something.
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Yeah, yeah. Like I just, it kind of was.
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I mean, I guess the name kind of says it all.
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That was a little boiling. Tunnel, yeah.
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Interesting, but the. Show the size of the show.
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You can't comprehend how big. It's almost like an airport,
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like a big airport. And there's outside and inside,
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so big convention halls inside and then there's at least 2
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tracks with continuous rubber being burnt.
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So people are either doing, you know, drift examples or they're
17:38
like, there was just so much going on.
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I, I probably did about 18,000 steps a day.
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So my feet were absolutely, you know, shot to pieces.
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A few highlights though. Subaru did reveal the new Gym
17:59
Carner car. So Travis Pastrana has been in
18:04
Australia. It was a bit of a badly kept
18:07
secret because I ended up being with Travis a few months ago.
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And he said, yeah, I'm about to film this Gym Carner.
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And I said, oh, where is it? And he went, I can't tell you.
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And then about 10 minutes later, he bumped into a buddy of his
18:20
who he'd worked with on Gym Carner.
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And just when they finished talking to each other, when this
18:25
guy said to Travis, I'll see you in Australia then.
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So that was out of the bag. But it's a Subaru brat.
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So I think the video goes live in a couple of weeks, OK.
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That's pretty cool. That's good.
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See, that gets me excited, right?
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Yeah, I. Like that.
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So that was revealed. The Hoonigan folks had a big
18:49
courtyard with. I think Hoonigan is now part of
18:52
a wider company that does all sorts from wheels to suspension.
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So under the umbrella Hoonigan they had all the different
18:59
sections. Leah Block had her GR Corolla
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incidentally. Ryan, are you missing yours?
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I think I've thought about it daily, honestly, and I'm
19:10
actually writing an article for Autoblog about it now,
19:13
tentatively titled Can an Old Man GR Corolla?
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You need to go dot dot. They're great, right?
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Well, I also have an. Asterisk because, you know, I'm
19:24
not quite ready to to join that right category, that
19:28
demographic. But no, it was fantastic.
19:32
It was a fantastic car. But no, we want to go drive the
19:33
Type R Civic and all its competition.
19:35
So sorry, yeah. So Leah's car was there.
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She's modifying a GR Corolla. Nice, nice.
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So a couple of the chem block cars, so the 43 Institute were
19:46
there, which is great. And they they do great work.
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They're obviously a charity in Ken's name.
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And then you just go through different holes with different,
19:55
it's a bit geeky. So if you're not really into the
19:58
trade stuff. So there's a whole hole on tires
20:02
and all it is is different tire companies and they might have a
20:05
show car or two, which is pretty cool.
20:07
But then they've got the machines for fitting the tires,
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another hole for detailers. So the Grios, yeah, You know,
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all those sorts of folks have got different stands, yeah.
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So you can remember you can. Really dive deep in whatever
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your area of interest is. Yeah, and.
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Like. Very granular it sounds like.
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I remember going into some of these halls though and just
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praying that no one would come up to me and like want to like,
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speak the language with me. Scan your badge.
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They want to scan your badge, right?
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Oh. That's right, that's right,
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that's right. I think the.
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Points. What do they do?
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They level. Up if if they What's that all
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about? You just get.
20:43
Spam. So they e-mail.
20:45
You after they've scanned your badge.
20:48
And so there weren't many manufacturers there, but there
20:51
was a big Toyota presence. How interesting.
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Yeah, so. That was pretty cool.
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They launched the the new Rav 4 GR edition, which doesn't have a
21:03
It's not a fully blown GR. So I think they call it GR
21:08
edition or something. So in essence, it's a ramp 4.
21:10
It's got Corolla suspension on it, I believe, but no change in
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the engine. But it's got like a little
21:15
spoiler at the back like you need to look it up.
21:18
But it it was a cool car. Yeah, it was the official launch
21:23
I think. Spoiler.
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That's how you know it's good. That's right.
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And. Obviously needs the downforce
21:29
being, you know, SUV with a right height and a.
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Right. It was good matter.
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Was it the the Mitsubishi Pajero or whatever?
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Right. You know the you know it's good
21:41
enough for the Rav 4 GI. So I think you're right.
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It's like Vegas. You don't want to go every year.
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Yeah. Yeah, what?
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What is it about Vegas? I mean, it's like the strip club
21:51
of cities, right? You just feel like you're just
21:53
getting like scammed at every, you know, you have to be on.
21:57
Guard. Yeah, I work too.
21:59
Hard for my money and everyone says Vegas is like crazy, crazy
22:02
expensive now, right? Like they just they tack on fees
22:05
for this and for that. And you know, I just, I don't
22:08
know, maybe it's fun when you're on the company dime, but just of
22:11
all the places you can spend your time, Vegas is just not you
22:15
got to you got to go once, right?
22:16
You got to go once, do it right. Yeah, because you can't explain
22:20
it like you have to experience it, which it sounds like SEMA is
22:24
a bit like that, like you can't fully appreciate it unless
22:26
you've experienced it yourself. I think we can agree they both
22:31
elicit very strong reactions. They're very polarizing.
22:34
Like, like you said, Ryan, people either love him or hate
22:36
him. And I think people say that
22:37
about Vegas as well. So the one thing I kept seeing
22:42
on Instagram from like other car journalists and things and
22:45
people who had maybe never been there before, maybe had been
22:48
there 10 times, was they didn't really have anything to say to
22:51
like, illustrate their photos. So the phrase I saw over and
22:55
over again was, well, Sema's a wrap.
23:00
So there wasn't any like and I went that's that's not typical
23:04
of SEMA. So I wonder if it was just this
23:06
year. Usually they're like, well we
23:08
saw XYZ or this was notable or. There were good builds.
23:13
Yeah, that's the other thing seems.
23:15
Famous for right the builds right far apart.
23:17
It's not like all the builds are in one place, if I recall right.
23:20
So you kind of have to, it's kind of a scavenger hunt to find
23:22
the good stuff, right? And you know, it's, it's the
23:26
seamless scavenger. Hunt So Dan, did you see like
23:29
did you get a chance to check out some of the builds and what
23:31
did you see and what were your thoughts?
23:33
Yeah, there. Was all sorts of crazy builds.
23:35
So one was a lowered Hummer. I think it had six wheels, but
23:41
it was almost like a dragster Hummer.
23:44
The one that I really liked was they did an F40 and completely
23:48
modernized the F40 and that looked really, really cool.
23:51
So that was probably. My highlight and you were into.
23:54
It Yeah. So.
23:56
Which which Hummer model did they modify?
24:00
It was like a. Civilian H3.
24:02
Is that the? Yeah, that's a.
24:05
Tiny one. Right.
24:06
Yeah, this thing. Was tiny.
24:08
Oh yeah, so that would. Be 3.
24:10
Yeah, interesting. Yeah, yeah, what an.
24:12
Interesting choice to do that too.
24:14
So it was, it was like slammed. Really slammed.
24:17
Like it almost looked like a dragster.
24:19
Yeah. Yeah, it was super weird.
24:21
Super weird. Yeah, in a while they were
24:23
smoking when they. Created that any.
24:25
RWB Porsches or liberty walk in cars or things I.
24:28
Think I Shouldn't I send you a picture?
24:29
That was a golf. A golf coloured RWB, Yeah.
24:33
And then next to that was Jorge's friend, our our friend
24:37
Jorge from Tormenti Tarmac. Yeah, his friend has got a a
24:40
Violet 355 convertible. Nice.
24:44
Oh, nice, so that's. Violet.
24:47
And what did you think of it in that color I loved?
24:49
It it was great. Yes, nice.
24:52
Yeah. And did you see this is how
24:55
little I know about SEMA actually.
24:57
So I have to go so I can learn about it, but I don't know if
24:59
they do the big trucks every year.
25:01
They're like really over the top, yes.
25:04
No, they did. There was a whole line of them
25:05
and some of them were like, yeah, you were just looking at
25:08
their navels right there. It's just, yeah, that's.
25:10
What has always struck me in the pictures is like, not only are
25:13
they just outrageous builds in general, but the height, they're
25:16
all raised up so high. Crazy, so I'm.
25:20
Sorry, what is above your shoulder there?
25:22
I, I, I, I see something. If you're watching this, maybe
25:25
you see it too. It is.
25:28
It's a fabulous new sign that our friend of the show Tory made
25:35
happen. So it's a sign of our logo.
25:38
That's excellent. That's excellent.
25:39
Right now I'm always seeing Dan's head, but right for the
25:41
rest of. Dan and I right now.
25:43
There we go. You got the best side exactly.
25:47
Dan's not always with us, so now he's with us twice right now
25:49
tonight in. Spirit.
25:52
That's right. That's very cool.
25:53
Though yeah, it is. It turned out really well.
25:56
It's super fun. And yeah, did a little, did a
26:00
little remodeling of the studio and that was one of the first
26:03
pieces to go up. So yeah, it's.
26:05
And they will be available on our Amazon store just in time
26:08
for the holidays. That's.
26:11
Right, they're at the top of everyone's gift list.
26:13
Obviously we love it. Well, I think, I think bottom
26:18
line, I have to go to see my next year so that we've all been
26:21
one for the team. I was going to say I will take
26:23
one for the team. Dan's off the hook.
26:24
Ryan doesn't have to go again yet.
26:26
Well, now they're not going to. Let me back.
26:29
That's right. No, you have to pitch it as
26:32
like, listen, my first experience was not, I was not as
26:36
you'd hoped. So I'd like to come back and
26:38
let's try again. And this was the first year they
26:41
actually let like civilians in, right?
26:43
Like that was the other thing about this year.
26:45
So I wonder if that, you know, change things.
26:47
They were, sort of. Finding their rhythm or
26:48
whatever, yeah. I think that.
26:51
Was part of it because I would always see the pictures before,
26:54
but it was like you said, it was sort of a very closed set for a
26:58
long time. Yeah, yeah.
26:59
You had to. I wonder how that'll change
27:01
things, but I know. Well, I, I will go check it out
27:04
next year and let you know and we'll see.
27:07
But Ryan, it sounds like you are going to have a pretty
27:10
interesting Speaking of roads to events, you're going to have an
27:14
interesting trip on your way to Thanksgiving.
27:17
So can you share about the new the chariot that you'll be
27:21
enjoying? Well, because we're.
27:22
Crazy. We drive to most holidays,
27:26
family things, right? So we'll be driving from Denver
27:28
to to Wisconsin this year. Please don't break into my
27:31
house. We have a very advanced security
27:34
system and a dog. But who will be in a kennel?
27:37
But anyway, we're driving from Denver to to Milwaukee and a
27:44
Genesis AGV 70. It's the 3.5.
27:48
So it's the six cylinder. It's a 3.5 turbo.
27:50
Genesis has a very generously allowed me to, to do that.
27:55
And you know, you guys know this, but often times when you
27:57
get a press car, you're sort of sort of unspoken, but you're
27:59
limited to 500 miles. So to put like 2500 miles on a
28:02
car is, is, is really very good of them.
28:05
And so I will report back. I, I really like the, the G90
28:10
sedan, the big, you know, massage seats, you know, for
28:14
position massage sheets and everything else car.
28:16
I don't know if this will be quite to that level, but it
28:19
should be fun and looking forward to it.
28:21
So I'm sure I have lots of, lots of things to say about it.
28:23
And, you know, it's certainly nicer than anything we would
28:27
have ended up with from Hertz. So I'll tell you that.
28:29
And, and with, with, with flying and all that, you know, we're
28:32
kind of looking like the geniuses right now too, right.
28:34
So instead of that, yeah, cheapskate.
28:36
So no kidding. Back looking forward to.
28:38
It Yeah, I. Think it's going to be a pretty
28:40
epic adventure, yeah. It should be good but anyone
28:43
listening if you have any points of interest or like photo spots
28:47
between Denver and Milwaukee you think I should stop and take a
28:50
picture of for the inevitable auto blog article when I'm back.
28:55
That's true, please do Fort Cody.
28:58
Either of you heard of Fort Cody?
28:59
It's this I have not. It's this Old West themed, I
29:05
don't know, roadside attraction somewhere in western NE that
29:10
Buffalo. Is it Buffalo Bill?
29:12
Buffalo Bill Cody? Is that the the guy?
29:15
Anyway, it's this. It's this very.
29:16
Old school, like, you know, tourist trap where it looks like
29:20
a stockade and then you go in and it's, you know, it's all
29:24
like, you know, crap from China, you know, and candy and stuff.
29:27
But we'll probably stop there. You know, I think the world's
29:31
largest covered wagon is somewhere along the way.
29:34
So maybe that's another stop. But anyone listening any any any
29:38
suggestions, questions, please do let us know and we're going
29:42
to. Start a Go Fund Me a Go Fund Me
29:45
page for Ryan's daughter so we can get a Netflix subscription
29:48
for her so she doesn't have to go to all these attractions
29:52
sheets. Today are so spoiled.
29:55
Let me tell you. You know, I mean, we used to
29:56
look forward of stops like that because, I mean, how many times
29:59
can you play, you know, car bingo with those little red, you
30:02
know, translucent sliders, right?
30:04
Yeah, used to play license plate games, right?
30:08
Yeah, that was like the height of entertainment, you know, when
30:11
you were Rd. tripping. Wasn't there a beetle?
30:13
Game You saw a beetle where you could punch your brother.
30:16
Oh. Yeah.
30:17
Punch buggy or slug bug? Yeah.
30:19
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, 1 headlight out and you
30:21
know that kind of thing. And oh, that sounds.
30:23
Like a? That sounds like a more advanced
30:25
version than we played. It was more.
30:27
Violent time. Well, and I mean, when you're
30:31
talking about the the license plate game, when you had that
30:35
little, you know, cardboard thing with the sliding red, that
30:38
was kind of an advanced, you know, fancy version of that too,
30:41
as opposed to just yelling out the state.
30:43
It's it's true. But like, some of those cards
30:45
are better than others. Do you remember this?
30:47
Oh yeah. Like some you cannot win on to
30:48
save your life, right? Highly specific stuff that you
30:53
know, so we never have. This so I've got no idea what
30:56
you guys are talking about. Oh my.
30:58
God, OK, you know I'm. Trying to find one on eBay
31:01
because it was, it was this little cardboard like, you know,
31:05
8 by 11 or whatever piece of cardboard kind of two layers and
31:09
it had the different states. And the whole intent was
31:13
obviously to keep you busy on a road trip.
31:14
But you're looking at the cars that you're passing and as you'd
31:17
see a state that you hadn't seen before, it had this thin red,
31:23
like vellum almost or something, and you'd slide it to cover
31:26
almost. Yeah, yeah.
31:27
With a little yeah, one each. Yeah, everyone.
31:30
Had one and you just. I mean if.
31:32
Your family was fancy, We just had one.
31:35
We also had. One that was like roadside
31:37
attraction. So like if you pass a church or
31:39
whatever, but then some of the stuff was really subjective,
31:41
like, you know, you're like is. That a hill or is that a
31:44
building? So you know that just started
31:48
arguments and but so this. Is where the family dynamics
31:51
reveal like the success of the game depended on your family
31:54
dynamics. Like is everybody?
31:57
Well, that's it, You're already. In the back of a 48 horsepower
31:59
Volkswagen Dasher, right? And then you throw, you know,
32:02
automotive bingo on top of it. It's amazing any of us survived
32:05
so right. This feels oddly specific, but I
32:09
think this. Is a therapy session for Ryan.
32:12
It always is. That's the beauty of car people,
32:17
right? Yes.
32:19
Well, Dan, it sounds like you. So you came back from SEMA and
32:23
then you got to experience something new at Universal
32:27
Studios that it was again automotive themed as is customer
32:31
watched. I didn't.
32:32
Get to experience, unfortunately.
32:33
So next year there's a new ride coming to Universal Studios.
32:36
Yeah. So I now being a resident in
32:39
California, you can get a discounted season pass that's.
32:43
Right, so I thought. I would get a discounted season
32:45
pass and went yesterday and they've got a new ride which is
32:50
called Fast and Furious Hollywood Drift I believe.
32:55
And if you've been to Universal Studios, it's an interesting set
32:58
up. It's like a multi level piece of
33:01
land. So the first part of the park is
33:05
at a certain level and then everything else you have to take
33:08
either escalators or elevators down to the other part of the
33:12
park. So it's on a multi level and
33:16
then you've got all the sound stages and you've got the Jaws
33:19
experience and all that sort of stuff.
33:21
But anyway, if you picture this, imagine these escalators that
33:25
are going down and it's multiple escalators.
33:27
It's not one. You kind of go down one set, you
33:29
walk along, go down the next set.
33:31
Weaved in between these escalators is a roller coaster.
33:35
And at the moment they were just sending test mules around it,
33:38
but next year it's going to be open.
33:41
And the theme is Fast and Furious.
33:43
So in in essence, you're doing a roller coaster and it's not a
33:47
fixed roller coaster. So what I mean by that is it
33:49
pivots on its center axis. So in essence, drifting.
33:54
Oh, the the actual cars that you ride in, yeah, drift you through
33:59
the roller coaster, and I believe that'd.
34:00
Be different themed cars. They've only shown that in like
34:04
static images. These were all painted the same
34:06
color, but so I think A-Team outing middle of 26 to Universal
34:12
Studio where we we go do some drifting, evaluate.
34:15
The drifting, yeah. We need to meet up with our new
34:18
buddy Robert Nagle, and he can ride with us and then he can.
34:21
There we go. The.
34:22
Technique of the roller coasters and drifts, that's true.
34:26
Escalators. Yeah, well, that's cool.
34:28
So that reminds. Me of something I was going to
34:30
ask you about Sema Dan, because I know Ryan had shared that part
34:33
of his experience was he had the IT sounds like it's like the
34:37
Vegas version of Monaco where instead of being right on top of
34:40
the racetrack, he was right on top of the drifting in his
34:43
hotel. So was that your experience too,
34:46
Dan? Because we had wasn't and I.
34:48
Think that's because so Ryan, I think you're a Marriott guy,
34:52
aren't you? Yeah, Yeah.
34:54
So there was a Marriott right next to the the tracks, and
34:58
luckily I stayed in a place called the Westgate, which was
35:01
kind of around the back. And it wasn't.
35:03
But I think if I'd have stayed in the Mario, I would have had
35:05
that same experience. Yeah.
35:07
Yeah, it drove us to drink, I'll be honest.
35:09
I mean. Any excuse?
35:11
Come on. Yeah, I know.
35:15
We weren't sure. Right.
35:17
Yeah. It gave you good cover.
35:19
Yeah, I know. Well, I'm.
35:21
I'm glad that you did not have that experience, Dan.
35:23
And maybe that explains a little bit also why your experience was
35:27
more positive than Ryan's and Ryan, now you know where to stay
35:30
when you go back. That's right.
35:31
So that you can have you can get yourself a break from the
35:35
drifting without having to go into the boring tunnel.
35:37
Yeah. Yeah.
35:40
I know. Well, Speaking of the boring
35:43
tunnel, Tesla has started to do car rentals for $60.00 a day.
35:48
So are they renting them? Do you guys know they're renting
35:51
them directly to consumers? Are they giving them to car
35:54
rental companies? Do we know?
35:56
Well, that didn't work. Speaking of Hertz, right?
36:01
I saw an article. In the New York Times and
36:05
apparently there's a wider issue going on right now where
36:07
electric cars aren't selling. Obviously September was tariffs.
36:13
So I don't know whether this is a longer term strategy, but
36:16
Tesla have obviously got all this allocation of cars on their
36:20
forecourts. So they've actually make them
36:23
available so you can rent them for $60.00 a day.
36:27
So as an alternative to Hertz or you know those other folks.
36:32
And it's interesting because I wonder if this is something
36:34
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37:47
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37:49
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37:54
ever in this lift car was a brand new Tesla Model 3 with the
37:57
white seats. And I'm thinking, that's how I
38:01
knew it was new, right? Until.
38:04
They were white. And it was a pretty good
38:06
experience. It was, I hadn't been the last
38:09
couple rental, you know, Tesla's I'd had were beaten.
38:11
They had like 60,000 miles because I don't think they're
38:13
replacing them. But this was a brand new model.
38:16
It was really, really nice, a great experience until the guy
38:18
went the wrong way down a one way street.
38:20
I never started honking at us and I snapped to attention and
38:23
and but a nice enough vehicle. But that's your point, Dean, I
38:27
think, you know, everyone's hurting and you know, I think we
38:31
all saw this article about Polestar.
38:33
Polestar just did a stock split to boost the value of the stock
38:38
and now the stock is at $0.22. Well, and they did that.
38:43
Like, yeah, it that's a reverse stock.
38:45
Split. That's what it was.
38:46
Not the way. You want to go that's.
38:48
What it was, what it was never a good.
38:51
Sign go buy your. Pole star stock while you you
38:54
can. I, I don't know, you know, when
38:55
our lease is up in July or whatever, what we're going to
38:57
do, where we're going to go right from here because we
38:59
really like the thing. And yeah, and I'll, I'll, I'll,
39:03
I'll, you know, go to my grave saying that I think for most
39:05
people in most places and electric is the is the superior
39:09
daily driver drivetrain. I just don't see us going back
39:12
to a, you know, and I see car for daily duties.
39:16
Yeah. So I don't know where we'll go
39:17
from from here. Well, and this is.
39:19
Your family's first EV correct it is it.
39:21
Is, yeah. Can I just say that the that car
39:25
show are not financial experts and no advice should be taken on
39:30
stocks to buy or sell with our insight please you could you
39:34
could buy. Thousands of shares and and
39:36
feel. But what if it goes to $0.11?
39:40
But. Yeah, you.
39:43
Know it's. Well, it's, I mean, it's, I
39:47
don't, I don't know off the top of my head if there has been a
39:50
company that has been saved by a reverse stock split.
39:53
But it is, you know, they don't, they don't do that without being
39:57
under duress a bit. And it's.
39:59
Writing's on the wall and it's too bad because it's a great
40:02
product. I, I really do believe it's a
40:04
great product. You know the the whole *2 that
40:06
we had was built in China and so obviously we know, you know how
40:09
that's all playing out and why they stopped selling them.
40:11
But of course there's the model 3 and the other one caught the
40:13
Model 3, but the pole *3 rather and then the four and I think
40:17
A5. So I mean, they have great
40:18
products in the pipeline. And I think, you know, pole
40:20
Star's a fantastic alternative if you would, you know, if you
40:24
you'd be driving a Volvo, but you want to drive electric,
40:26
right? I mean, you're not a Tesla
40:27
person, right? I think a pole star's a great
40:29
car. So, you know, it'd be really
40:32
kind of sad if they go away in the USI think they'd be they'd
40:36
continue to be sold elsewhere in the in the country.
40:37
But I don't know. It's.
40:40
Didn't you write an? Article about SO they're one of
40:42
the only companies that are doing a roadster, so maybe that
40:45
gets shelved. Yeah, well, Tesla was also doing
40:49
a Roadster. But you.
40:51
Right, get to see that. No, I know.
40:53
And it's a beautiful thing, right?
40:54
It's a it's a, it's AI think a coupe and A and a roadster and
40:58
it's a fantastic looking car. It's one of those few cars that,
41:01
you know, if everything goes as planned, it's going to look just
41:03
like the the production car is going to look a lot like the
41:05
concept car. So think like, you know, when
41:08
the Audi TT came out and like, oh damn, that actually looks
41:10
quite a lot like the, you know, the concept car or the original
41:13
boxed or whatever. And this is a car that really
41:15
does look exceptional and I think will will stay true to the
41:17
concept, but we'll see. You know, I mean, it's, it's
41:20
also a $200,000 car. So I don't think, I don't think
41:23
any lease deal is going to be good enough to put that in my
41:26
garage. But well, it's not.
41:28
Really a family. It's not really a family car.
41:31
So you're off the hook for a few years in terms of, like, Ryan,
41:34
why haven't you put your money where your mouth is?
41:36
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
41:38
Exactly. Yeah, I don't know.
41:39
And maybe if the company goes, you know, goes out of business,
41:42
at least here in the States, you know, maybe we'll be able to
41:44
keep the car very, very inexpensively, too.
41:46
And maybe we'll have this pole star for a long time.
41:48
We'll be able to service the damn thing.
41:51
I'll be up poking at it with a Phillips head screwdriver up on
41:53
my left trying to get electric the next.
41:57
Ocean. Where do we take it though?
41:58
Oh. Bad.
41:59
Well, hopefully that did you see who's the guy that does that?
42:03
Rich rebuilds on YouTube. He just got a free Fisker Ocean.
42:08
Was able to fix it with a new key for 20 bucks.
42:10
At least that's the click baity title.
42:12
Whatever. Would you take a free Fisker
42:14
Ocean either of you? Yes.
42:16
Free. OK, yes.
42:18
If it's free, yeah, because I think I would.
42:21
And sorry, Lindsay, go on. No, I mean.
42:23
I feel like that's one of those things where if it's free,
42:25
obviously you pay insurance and that kind of thing and like for
42:29
as long as it runs. And if you know, ideally,
42:32
obviously if something happens, you're able to figure out some
42:34
kind of a solution for a fair amount of time.
42:37
But I think that's one of those things that you just do for the
42:40
sake of the plot. You're like, wait, you're going
42:41
to give me a fester ocean, right?
42:43
That's all I get. One right like.
42:45
For the podcast, for my life, you're just like, that's one of
42:48
those stories of like, yeah, somebody handed me this car.
42:50
So here we are. Like, why would you say no
42:53
really? Because if it, if it breaks and
42:55
it's unrecoverable, like, OK, you didn't pay for it.
42:58
It's not like you're losing a bunch of money.
43:00
And you got to enjoy it for as long as you got to enjoy it.
43:04
And you know, the whole history story, like is such an up and
43:08
down story. And you get to be a tiny part of
43:10
it and enjoy one of their products for as long as it
43:12
works. So.
43:14
But yeah. So, Dan, what would you say I
43:16
was? Saying I think you'd strip it
43:17
for spares and put them all on eBay.
43:19
Well. People are going to need them.
43:22
Yeah, or you could. Turn the seats into like a desk
43:25
or a sofa or something. Oh, that's true, Upcycle.
43:29
It Yeah. Yeah, so.
43:31
OK, so that's what I would do. I would take it, drive it for as
43:34
long as it worked, then part it out and possibly create the
43:37
world's first Fisker Ocean love seat.
43:42
That's what I wouldn't feel bad about.
43:44
I always, like, cry a little bit on the inside whenever I see,
43:46
like, a really good car that's turned into one of those, right,
43:49
You know? Yeah.
43:50
Or like something that's rare. There aren't that many examples.
43:53
And you're like, oh, you cut it in half to make yeah.
43:56
Crimean Ocean. Exactly.
44:00
Yeah. Well, so Dan, you mentioned that
44:04
you had seen an interesting Top Gear episode since we last all
44:07
were together. And I wondered if you could
44:09
share a little bit about that, because I'm very curious what
44:12
the result was, who was the winner.
44:14
So take it away. Yeah, this.
44:16
Was kind of, I guess on the back of it sounds like some of our
44:20
friends in England may be doing an SUV who have never done an
44:23
SUV before. I'm talking about the Formula
44:26
One world champions. And apparently next year is
44:30
there's an SUV coming. It's going to be a hybrid.
44:33
But that led me down a bit of a rabbit hole.
44:35
And Tom Ford, who is a famous Top Gear presenter, he did a
44:42
video to be. Confused with the designer, Tom
44:43
Ford. That's right, the guy who makes.
44:45
The handbags. It's not the handbags Tom Ford.
44:48
It's the other Tom Ford whose nickname is Wookie, which is
44:51
super weird because when you get emails from him that just says
44:53
Wooks and you're like, how do I respond to that, dear Mr. Wooks?
44:58
But yeah, he took a Ferrari Pro Sangui and he took an Aston
45:05
Martin DBXS. So the DBXS is the newest Aston
45:09
Martin, which basically is quicker than the seven O 7.
45:13
So it's up from the seven O 7 in terms of power and stuff.
45:17
And he went to the UK's narrowest and steepest road and
45:23
pitted them against each other. And I would encourage everyone
45:27
to watch the video, so I won't give too much away.
45:30
But the interesting things for me were the Ferrari has a
45:33
suspension from Multimatic. Now, if you guys are familiar
45:37
with Multimatic, what else have they worked on they.
45:41
Worked on the Mustang GTD, yes. So it's interesting that the
45:47
Italians are now working with the Canadians to get the best
45:51
possible suspension. But he was raving about that.
45:56
He was less raving about the options list on the Ferrari
46:00
because I think there was something like $135,000 of
46:03
options. Yeah.
46:04
And that's. Just obscene.
46:06
I mean I. Get it was a press car, but and
46:10
then he was raving about the usability of the the Aston, you
46:14
know, the fact he's got a decent sized trunk.
46:16
Watch the video because the Ferrari does a really cool thing
46:19
with his back seats. So if you want to put the back
46:22
seats down, you can. But it looks really cool and
46:26
watch the video for the net result.
46:27
But yeah, I think McLaren if they go into that market.
46:31
Oh, I've said it. Whoops, McLaren.
46:33
If they go into that market, then they've got some very stiff
46:36
competition to go up against just well and that.
46:39
Yeah, like you said, they've announced their models for the
46:42
next few years I think and one of them is going to be a 4 door
46:46
sedan. Is it so?
46:48
Which McLaren? I thought it was an SUV.
46:53
Oh, is it? OK. 4 door SUV.
46:55
So yeah, either way, I think the question stands either way,
46:59
would either of you be interested in A4 door McLaren
47:03
sedan or a four door McLaren SUV?
47:06
Ryan, what do you think? No, not.
47:08
Really, not really. I love McLaren.
47:11
I, I, you know, I love their cars, you know, don't know if
47:15
I'd buy one of the sports cars either, but we need to create a.
47:18
List don't we have things that is better to have a friend owned
47:22
than we own? There you go.
47:23
Boats. We've got SUV's, we've got
47:25
Mclarens. Yeah, right.
47:26
What's a? Brendan.
47:30
Right, an off road vehicle about McLaren.
47:34
Yeah, we'll just keep it's a, it's a living document.
47:37
We'll just keep adding to the list.
47:39
Yeah. But Dan, what do you think?
47:41
Would you be interested in a McLaren SUV?
47:45
I, I, I would love, I've never driven A McLaren.
47:47
I'd love to drive a McLaren. You know that everyone raves
47:50
about the driving. I hope that the build qualities
47:53
got better because I think early on, like it used to be, I don't
47:56
think it's the case anymore. It used to be that there was a
47:59
stat that said that McLaren customers less than 5% bought a
48:04
second McLaren. Really.
48:06
That's that's I mean I. Do I feel that's wild?
48:11
Wow. But I.
48:12
Think that's got better like 7%, right?
48:15
I don't know the I don't know the numbers, but I think the
48:17
qualities got better 6. Seven.
48:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a 50% gap.
48:22
Daughter's cringing. From across the house, Yeah,
48:24
let's say Ryan. You're so hip.
48:26
See, we can hang with the young people.
48:29
Pretty sad, isn't it? Yeah.
48:31
Oh man. Yeah, would you?
48:32
Guys, you, you just know it's a no and it would.
48:35
Not with my own money. I'd take one, you know.
48:38
Right Again. At NF Fisker.
48:39
Ocean. Yeah, I was going.
48:40
To say this is that's our other living list is like, what would
48:44
you take if somebody's handing you a free 1?
48:45
Sure. McLaren SUV Fisker Ocean not
48:48
drawing. Any analogues just for the
48:51
recording? No, Yeah, the IT will.
48:53
And it sounds like it's since it's a list of two, it's which
48:57
SU VS would you accept if someone is handing them to you?
49:00
Those are the 2. But Speaking of twos, I have
49:04
been having a funny experience since car week.
49:07
And I don't know if this has happened to you guys but I find
49:09
myself I'm moving through the world with sort of like 2 car
49:13
solution colored glasses on unexpectedly.
49:16
And it started at the zinger party at car week when I
49:21
happened to go out to the car park and Matt Farah's beautiful
49:26
Myers Banks was out there, the beautiful blue right next to AGT
49:30
40 that was almost a matching blue.
49:33
And I went, Oh my gosh, that would be a really funny 2 car
49:36
solution. Like what if that was your
49:38
garage? What would that look like?
49:40
What would that feel like? And ever since then I've started
49:43
to see pairs of cars together and I'm like, well, that's an
49:45
interesting 2 car solution because I feel like that's
49:49
that's such a catch all in the car community as everybody goes
49:51
like, OK, but what's your two car solution?
49:54
So I wanted to start with Dan, what is your like in a perfect
49:59
world, what is your ideal 2 car solution?
50:02
And then are there any funny ones that you've seen when
50:04
you're out and about lately? Yeah, I.
50:07
Think 2 car solution is something for the weekend is
50:10
something for the week, yeah so maybe a singer for the weekend
50:15
0. There we go.
50:17
I think I want to say McLaren F1, so maybe a Stinger for the
50:20
week and a McLaren F1 for the weekend, right?
50:23
Well, that's along the lines of like a Myers Max and AGT 40.
50:26
It's like, yeah, hey, it doesn't have to be practical.
50:30
It has to be fun and you have to love it.
50:31
So I love that idea. And so have you seen any funny
50:36
pairings out and about? What was?
50:39
I'm just trying to think what was on the stands.
50:40
So I went to one of the detail companies stands and they had an
50:45
S2000 from Fast and Furious and then they had a busy Moto 935
50:51
Electric that was on the Sonic stand.
50:55
So that would be a very cool 2 car solution.
50:58
Yeah, it would. That would be really unique.
51:00
I know I think it's interesting because you go OK, could you do
51:03
daily life if you had these two things?
51:06
What would that look like and I mean I'm game to find out, you
51:11
know. So Ryan, what's your ideal 2 car
51:14
solution and have you seen any funny pairings lately?
51:17
Yeah, you. Know let's do a A2 door cabrio G
51:22
wagon like Doug Demiro Oh yeah and GT3 touring that's that
51:28
would be really all I would need those two cars special if I was
51:32
living in some wonderful place like Southern California.
51:34
I think that'd be kind of ideal funny 2 pairing cars.
51:39
There is someone in the neighborhood that has like an
51:41
old like a a 47 Chevy pickup truck and also has a 930 turbo.
51:50
And those are the only two cars I've ever seen at that house.
51:53
And yeah, yeah, one of them gets St. parked.
51:56
The other gets parked under a portico.
51:58
I'm not quite sure what's in the garage, but those are the only
52:01
two cars I've seen. And he seems to be or she seems
52:04
to be doing OK with those too. So I love.
52:07
That the 9:30. Has a handicap placard on it
52:10
too, so wow. So we have.
52:12
So many questions, I know I. You need to become friends with
52:17
that guy. Poor lady, I didn't.
52:19
Want to say it right? You're like.
52:23
Car occasionally, that's right, that's right.
52:25
Yeah, yeah, as a matter. Of fact, and it's me walking
52:28
back and forth in front of your house.
52:31
Yeah. Well, those are both.
52:34
Really good combos, Yeah, I think so.
52:36
What are you? So the one I saw another one
52:39
today and this is what reminded me of kind of I keep seeing
52:42
these pairings. The one I saw this morning was
52:45
an ID buzz and then a 718 boxer S and I was like, well, those
52:49
are like again, could be A and really either of those could be
52:53
the weekend car or the daily. So you could you could live a
52:56
lot of life with those two. And then I actually saw a Nissan
53:02
Murano convertible in this beautiful sort of like sea green
53:06
metallic Unicorn color where I was just like, this is amazing.
53:10
And there was a replica vintage MG right next to it.
53:13
And I'm like, all right, what would life look like if that was
53:16
your garage? Yeah.
53:17
Yeah, yeah. So there's some, you know, and
53:20
then I saw a Saturn Vue and Oldsmobile Cutlass Sierra Park
53:24
together in a driveway the other day, and I was like, boy, that's
53:27
a blast from the past that. Was a good two car solution for
53:31
someone at one time. Yeah, right.
53:33
And. It's again, you look like your
53:35
neighbor with the questions. I'm like that was A2 car
53:38
solution of a certain time period and it is currently for
53:40
these people. So, you know, also interesting,
53:43
there's a whole new. Bingo game you can create that's
53:46
so you pull together all those combos and the kids are in the
53:49
car for hours trying to find the combos.
53:51
Yes, yes. Porsche car bingo, right.
53:54
There's a 924 S, right? I mean, you know, I never
53:57
thought I'd see one of those, right?
53:59
Yeah. Then in the center square,
54:00
you've got a, a GT3 because those are everywhere now, right?
54:04
You know, but. That's how you win.
54:06
They're like. Yeah, so.
54:09
I know well and I think, but I think my favorite actually is
54:12
one that I didn't see but someone sent to me.
54:16
There was a high performance driving event out of Willow
54:18
Springs last weekend and I got a picture from the hotel parking
54:22
lot in the morning and it was these two and I think they're
54:25
like 90s era single cab lowered short bed Chevy pickups, both in
54:32
insanely bright pink, different pinks parked right next to each.
54:39
I mean, commit to the bit right? Like the Barbie lifestyle.
54:43
So anyway, so it's it kind of makes your drives interesting as
54:48
you're, you know, going through your day, you go like, all
54:51
right, what if that was my garage?
54:52
And it's sort of, you know, we're all out and about and it
54:55
sort of adds a little fun to your drives, even if it's just,
54:59
you know, running errands. But I thought it was really fun
55:02
the other day when we did the hopped in the DeLorean for a
55:05
little time capsule action. We stole the DeLorean.
55:08
Didn't we? We did, but we kept our ability
55:13
to time travel, apparently. So this week I thought we could
55:17
chat about a brand that is near and dear to my heart.
55:21
Ford, of course. So same premise.
55:25
Right. For those of us just tuning in
55:27
now, so the premise is if you could go back to any time period
55:32
in the Ford manufacturing, you know all of the products, where
55:37
would you go? Like what do you feel like is
55:39
peak Ford? And Ryan, I would love to hear
55:42
your answer first. Well, Lindsay, asking me about
55:46
my favorite Ford year is a little like asking me about ham
55:50
radios or my favorite Harry Potter book, because I have no
55:54
real experience with any of these things.
55:56
I didn't grow up with Fords. I've never owned a Ford.
56:00
I don't know that I ever will own a Ford.
56:03
That's shots fired. Huh.
56:06
That said, I love me a Ford GT of any vintage.
56:10
I think 2005 would be a really Goodyear to go back in time and
56:14
pick one of those up when they were being sold at a discount.
56:17
And I do have a thing for the 5.0 LX Fox body Mustangs.
56:22
Give me a final year, you know, Fox body LX trim, cloth seats,
56:27
manual. That'd be pretty fantastic. 65
56:32
GT 350 would be fantastic, right?
56:35
I mean, these are just so good. I think those are, that's a car
56:37
that transcends, right? You know, find me a Porsche
56:40
person who doesn't like one of those.
56:41
They're just so good. But for someone who's not a Ford
56:45
guy, and I should say I have absolutely nothing against
56:48
Fords. I just don't have any experience
56:51
with them. I guess.
56:53
Take me at 88 miles an hour to 1992, because when I think of
56:58
Ford, it's the Ford lineup from that era that just says Ford to
57:04
me. So some highlights of 1992 or
57:06
the aforementioned Fox bodies. I think 93 was the last year of
57:09
those, right? They're trying to transition
57:11
into that next Gen. You could also get the new Crown
57:16
Victoria, a car that was made for 20 goddamn years and one
57:20
that you can still occasionally see in police fleets, especially
57:22
in California, right? Thirteen years after the last
57:26
one rolled off the assembly line.
57:28
You could get the Aerostar that year.
57:30
Oh, AKA the space shuttle on wheels.
57:34
You can get the big boy Bronco too.
57:36
I think that was the fifth generation that had just come
57:38
out that year, right? 82 The F series was at the top
57:42
of its game. It was still something the
57:45
Marlboro Man would drive, right? I mean, it just had that sort of
57:48
vibe. The OG probe, right?
57:51
Not the Mazda probe. In there.
57:54
Yeah, I mean, I guess they were both Mozzworth, that was right
57:56
there. I think that came on 88 or 89.
57:58
So that was still lurking around, tempting the
58:00
Appalachian, uh, enthusiasts on a budget.
58:02
I guess what else was? Well, there was a.
58:05
Taurus, the Taurus the show. The SHO, right?
58:08
Yeah. And that was the facelifted one,
58:09
like Conan O'Brien drove, you know, used to drive, right?
58:13
The Tempo was a car that was available.
58:15
It was 92, the Tempo. Was also there, yeah.
58:20
The Thunderbird, the personal luxury car.
58:23
Yeah. And you know what?
58:24
All of these models shared one thing in common.
58:27
It was that same stupid little Ford radio with a little chiclet
58:29
buttons. Every single one of those cars
58:31
had the same radio. So I think that's why in 1992 is
58:36
peak Ford for me. There we go.
58:38
That's. An amazing answer.
58:39
Yeah, Dan, you're up next door. Actually it's it's two years
58:45
later. So he's kind of 90. 4:00-ish
58:50
This is peak Clarkson. Clarkson is still quite young
58:54
looking and he's got this massive bouffant of big hair and
58:58
Ford have given him for a year a Ford Escort Cosworth.
59:05
See, you had. A different we did.
59:07
We had. Different Fords in the UK, which
59:09
is why I think I've got more of a love than maybe you have, Ryan
59:12
and the Mark. So we had in the 80s you had
59:16
Group B which was, you know, all about, you know, whatever the
59:20
rules were, you would interpret them to whatever.
59:22
And the RS200 came. But then when the Coswith the
59:25
escort Coswith came, it wasn't even an escort, it was a Sierra
59:29
because they had to take the body length and make it an
59:32
all-wheel drive car for rallying at Group A.
59:34
So you know, so this was a this was a beautiful little car with
59:40
a big spoiler on the back. You know, it had all-wheel
59:43
drive. It had a, you know, legendary
59:45
Cosworth badge on the back and you'd have it in like a Mallard
59:49
green or something like that. So that would be for me, that
59:53
would be peak. And I think they they started in
59:56
92, but 94 was when they kind of got to perfection.
1:00:00
Interesting. Yeah, that's a good.
1:00:04
I mean, I was thinking it's interesting that you both went
1:00:06
very similar time periods, but such different answers and such
1:00:10
different, you know, experiences with the brand because of
1:00:13
growing up in different countries.
1:00:16
And Lindsay, you grew. Up with Ford.
1:00:18
So this is going to this is the this is the answer I'm really
1:00:20
curious about because, you know, Ford tattoo.
1:00:24
Act. That's right.
1:00:26
I really went back and forth because of like I've had
1:00:31
personal experience with so many different models of the brand,
1:00:34
but I kind of went back to my perspective on the Porsche
1:00:38
answer with picking kind of an epic moment in the brand's
1:00:42
history. And so I would want to go back
1:00:46
to like the Shelby era of for so the mid 60s, you know, 646566
1:00:54
when that program was coming together with the Mustangs and
1:00:58
the Cobras. And I realized, you know, you
1:01:00
could the purists would argue that might not be, you could
1:01:03
argue it's not Ford. But listen, it was integral to
1:01:07
the program. They were working together
1:01:09
closely at that point. And I feel like there were so
1:01:13
many historical moments, like, you know, we were just talking
1:01:16
to Robert Nagle about the Lamar races where they raced the Ford,
1:01:19
the GT 40s. And like, I feel like that era
1:01:23
of the company, you still like, there's so many stories that
1:01:27
came out of that. So many prominent figures in
1:01:30
automotive like Pete Brock and Ken Miles and Carroll Shelby and
1:01:34
all of that was like, you know, there's just so many stories and
1:01:39
big moments and like really shaped the history of the
1:01:43
company, even to the point like when I was at the GTD reveal a
1:01:47
couple years ago when Jim Farley was introducing the car, he
1:01:51
talked about even in 2023, he said, we're turning away from
1:01:56
Shelby. But it's not like we still love
1:01:59
Shelby. And that's been such a part of
1:02:01
the company. This is a new direction from us
1:02:03
that we're really excited about. And yeah, that's not about
1:02:06
Shelby, but also he's still in the discussion or those cars are
1:02:10
still in the discussion even now.
1:02:11
So I think it would be really, really interesting to get an in
1:02:17
person window into what that time period was like and you
1:02:22
know, all of those discussions and be there when those cars
1:02:25
were being developed so. So surprising.
1:02:28
No one. That's my answer, no.
1:02:30
That's a great answer. I, I, I, I think I've seen a
1:02:32
picture of like a transporter, like a race transporter from
1:02:35
that era just filled with all those great cars, right?
1:02:38
And just I want to go back and just drive that whole thing.
1:02:42
So I'm pretty sure one of our family friends drove that
1:02:44
transporter, of course. That's awesome.
1:02:47
Yeah, we. Have a good family friend who
1:02:49
his job. He was one of the original
1:02:51
Shelby employees and ultimately he was hired to do, and I don't
1:02:57
know, I think it was AI may be miss speaking, but I think it
1:03:00
was a type of a publicity tour. And he drove the big rigs and
1:03:03
they transported the cars around the US and there were I think
1:03:08
maybe 3 big rigs that did that, but he was one of them.
1:03:11
And yeah, that's, I think all, you know, all those guys have
1:03:15
such amazing stories. So to get to to get to be in
1:03:19
that moment for a little bit would be pretty epic.
1:03:23
Yeah, yeah. Was died.
1:03:24
In the wool Ford person, we blew all that.
1:03:27
I think you couldn't have chosen another year really, right?
1:03:31
Right. I.
1:03:32
Know I was like OK do I go back to 85 because that's when the
1:03:36
Bronco that I learned to drive was made.
1:03:39
It was much older when I learned to drive in it, obviously for
1:03:42
those trying to do the math. But anyway, that's neither here
1:03:46
nor there. Yeah, yeah.
1:03:47
Yeah, a little disappointed neither one of you said nineteen
1:03:49
O 8 when the Model T was brought to the market.
1:03:52
We didn't want to. Steal your Thunder because we
1:03:54
thought considering you share the same birthday right, we were
1:03:59
helping. You'd share some personal
1:04:00
stories from the time, but you came up with a model.
1:04:02
Eight kids, you know, by the way, happy birthday, Dan.
1:04:06
I think it was just your birthday.
1:04:09
I think you were. I think you might be, too.
1:04:12
What rotations around the sun? Oh, behind you I'm yes, getting
1:04:18
closer towards Ryan's age and nowhere near Lindsay, but the
1:04:22
right that's. That's the best part about
1:04:23
aging, right? You never catch up, right?
1:04:25
You're out. No, you're.
1:04:27
Like I'm just going to pause here and wait for you guys.
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That's. Right, I think you get
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backwards. After 30, don't you?
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That's right. That's right.
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Yeah, that's right. I mean, that's what.
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I'm doing. I for it's worth that I don't
1:04:38
see any white and you were your beard stubble there so I think
1:04:41
you're there we go yeah it's. Amazing.
1:04:43
You might. Be giving a bit.
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Isn't it? Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly. That British?
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Constitution. Yeah, but we hope you had an
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amazing birthday. Yeah, and thank you very much.
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That was Universal Studios, Yeah, that's.
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I mean, that's a good way to celebrate, absolutely.
1:04:58
But yeah, I mean, I think I think that's that's it for this
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week. You guys, unless we have any
1:05:04
other pressing topics that have I'm.
1:05:07
Excited about next week? Yeah, I know.
1:05:11
We have the auto show coming up and we get to see each other in
1:05:14
person. We in LA.
1:05:18
If you're at the show, come say hello.
1:05:21
That's right. We'll be there on the Thursday,
1:05:22
which is the press day. We'll be joined by our good
1:05:26
friend Jorge Aquino. We'll also be joined by Michael
1:05:30
Lasasso, who is the the business behind this podcast and doesn't
1:05:35
always get the the front of house, you know, but he'll be
1:05:39
with us as well. So it should be a it should be a
1:05:41
great a great few days, shouldn't it?
1:05:43
Yeah, it would be a. Lot of fun.
1:05:45
And I've been promised a delicious Mexican meal, so.
1:05:50
Dan, are you? Recommended it because I haven't
1:05:52
I was going. To say, are you cooking, Dan?
1:05:55
El Taco Bello or something. Which you've never.
1:05:59
Actually eaten. If my memory serves me, I'll.
1:06:02
Never have a Taco Bell. And if I ever do have a Taco
1:06:05
Bell, it's the one just outside San Francisco because there's
1:06:08
one on the beach. Oh.
1:06:11
Cantina. Just to the West of San
1:06:14
Francisco. Yeah, I.
1:06:16
Think they serve alcohol? They.
1:06:17
Still have one of the cantinas is still open.
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I think so, and that's the only Taco Bell I'll ever have.
1:06:24
Well, I mean, authentic it's not, but, you know, it is part
1:06:28
of the fabric of Southern California.
1:06:30
Yeah. Crab beef came right from the
1:06:31
ocean, yeah. The triangle of of cuisine.
1:06:37
You can either have it authentic, cheap, or convenient.
1:06:40
But you can't have all three, no?
1:06:42
Yeah, exactly. Well, for all of us here at that
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car show, thank you so much for joining us this week and thank
1:06:49
you guys. It was great to be all together
1:06:52
as a crew. And yeah, so thank you to all of
1:06:56
our listeners. Drop us a line and let Ryan know
1:06:58
if there are any spots that he needs to stop on his road trip
1:07:01
to take pictures with the Genesis.
1:07:04
Let us know what the snarkier the better.
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Right. Yeah, the weirder the the more
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Ryan's daughter will roll her eyes.
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Those are the suggestions we're looking for.
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If you have seen any unusual or unique or funny 2 car pairings,
1:07:19
let us know that and wish Dan happy birthday.
1:07:22
Thank you so much for joining us this week.
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And until next week, we are that car show.
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And remember, always be driving.