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#175 - Westside Boogie · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: All right, man Boulet cap show. We got a special
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Speaker 1: guests in here. It's lit side boogie. You finally let
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Speaker 1: me come first of all, I've DMed you before. That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: You be ignoring my dms. That's not true. It's a man,
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Speaker 1: I can show you treat me like the little Instagram thought,
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Speaker 1: Hey for this stuck video? How did y'all pull that
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Speaker 1: shit off? Just for see? You just look like it
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Speaker 1: was it like an uncomfortable video to shoot hanging upside
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Speaker 1: down like that? What do you mean? I was flying
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Speaker 1: for real? You weren't flying for real. I was literally
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Speaker 1: was flying. Okay, well, now it was hell uncomfortable. I
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Speaker 1: hate that shit because the fucking uh can I cuss
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Speaker 1: on this thing? Of course? Oh the fucking harness. They
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Speaker 1: put it inside my pants. So for one, it's a
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Speaker 1: dude kneeling down in front of me while my pants
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Speaker 1: is like kind of down. Can you enjoy that? No,
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Speaker 1: you're funny as hell and I'm already and Compton in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the hood. So them was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm dealing with that. And then it's just uncomfortable like
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Speaker 1: some and like because it's up against you're skinny, and
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Speaker 1: they needed tight. The tighter it is, the safer it
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Speaker 1: is for you. So I'm already like scary about heights
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Something put his as possible, So
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Speaker 1: then I had to get used to like flipping backwards
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Speaker 1: and like my weight and stuff like that. But it
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Speaker 1: just kind of reminds like you're facing Like a few
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Speaker 1: of the shots reminded me of fifty at the super
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Speaker 1: Bowl bent that's far, you know what I mean, like
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Speaker 1: hanging upside down, you know, I mean for a little
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Speaker 1: bit about fifty in a regular video the super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: he looked kind of washed. That's my boy. But super
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Speaker 1: Bowl he was a little heavy when he pulled down,
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Speaker 1: but he wasn't heavy. I just think that's grown up weight. Yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: So you're saying mine look like grown up. Wait, I
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Speaker 1: got you. Anyway, When is your album coming out? Man?
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Speaker 1: It's been a while. I know it's been what three years?
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Speaker 1: Was it? Twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, yeah, twenty nineteen?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, soon next one of these days. I mean, listen,
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Speaker 1: you're here for a reason, exactly. You know it's rollout.
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Speaker 1: The album is done. I didn't just pull up right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you got music out. Yeah, I do exactly
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Speaker 1: that me. I'm back outside. How many songs on your album? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: asked me questions. I don't even know if I can answer.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say twelve to fifteen because I didn't ask you.
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Speaker 1: Everything is like, you know, everything is part of rollo.
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Speaker 1: You know you got to surprise people. But it's is ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: You guys are do an interviews. I know it's fucked up. Man,
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Speaker 1: I love you, bro. What are we doing here? I
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Speaker 1: don't know capping twelve to fifteen? I wanted to be
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Speaker 1: for real, in my brain, I wanted to be thirteen.
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Speaker 1: But I'm just I'll be like trying to figure it
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Speaker 1: out until the day it's released. I probably might take
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Speaker 1: something out or add some last minute Hell Mary, you
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Speaker 1: never know. Yeah, is it like because I feel like
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Speaker 1: that's like, to me, a nice number for an album. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And we start getting into like that twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's a little overwhelming sometimes listening a
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Speaker 1: lot to that much music. I once so I was
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Speaker 1: gonna do ten, but I was like, I don't make
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Speaker 1: them wait three years to ten something. They're gonna be pissed.
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Speaker 1: So how was everything just in terms of like just life. Man,
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Speaker 1: we got through a pandemic, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Obviously that happened. I was in waiting three years for
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Speaker 1: your music, so I'm assuming you've lived a lot of
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Speaker 1: life in that time. Yeah, pandemic was was good and
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Speaker 1: bad for me, like as far as like quarantining because
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Speaker 1: like I had to be in the house, but it
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Speaker 1: also like tested my relationship out I was in at
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Speaker 1: the moment. We ended up breaking up, which like I
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Speaker 1: don't think we was right for each other anyway, So
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Speaker 1: I think the pandemic kind of made you all break up.
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, it forced us to be around each other.
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Speaker 1: I think it was problems we would have kept prolonging.
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Speaker 1: We probably would have ended up breaking up, but not
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Speaker 1: like when we needed to. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: Because if think got it happened before you had a
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Speaker 1: baby or I mean, yeah with her, Yeah, you're right,
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Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, because I do got a kid.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, but it just not with Yeah, it's not
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Speaker 1: with her, So that happened then. Also, just like an
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Speaker 1: artist in my head, I deal with that a lot,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I can't lie about that.
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Speaker 1: Then going through therapy and then finally being in a
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Speaker 1: lot of people are comfortable. I feel like it's starting
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Speaker 1: to become normalized. I love this. Like my generation, I'm
5:10
Speaker 1: starting to realize we're so amazing, just as far as
5:12
Speaker 1: like I look around all my homies's great parents. When
5:15
Speaker 1: I remember us being younger, none of us had our dads,
5:17
Speaker 1: and now we like over like we're just overcompensating for
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Speaker 1: what we didn't have. You know what I'm saying, We
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Speaker 1: super like dads now. And so yeah, even with therapy,
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Speaker 1: like my home is just starting to be open to it,
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Speaker 1: Black and brown community starting to be open to it.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's dope. What is was there anything
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Speaker 1: like kind of was like your tipping point? Where like
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Speaker 1: I need to go talk to somebody type shit for me.
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Speaker 1: My feelings was just hurt. I was just crying. I
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Speaker 1: was tired of crying. The opportunity was presented to me
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Speaker 1: from LVRN because you know, they care about the artist's
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Speaker 1: mental health, so shout out to them, and I didn't
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Speaker 1: really want to do it at first. It felt like homework.
5:50
Speaker 1: Some days it's still feel like class, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, because yeah, because I've been to therapy that
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Speaker 1: sometimes you get like exercises and DA like yeah, do this,
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Speaker 1: do this and we'll meet next week exactly, so having
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Speaker 1: to do stuf when you leave, and it's like, man,
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Speaker 1: I just want to come here and not have to
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Speaker 1: deal with it when I get out of therapy. So
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Speaker 1: it's still a struggle, you know what I'm saying. But
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Speaker 1: I'm starting to notice the benefits of it, just like
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Speaker 1: I'm more patient or open to people and like understanding
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Speaker 1: where they're coming from and stuff like do you find
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Speaker 1: yourself like practicing shit you learn like in real time
6:14
Speaker 1: to be like oh this is yeah, just like I
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Speaker 1: get tested still and the way I'm able to approach
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Speaker 1: these situations now and I just react out of like
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Speaker 1: anger or feel like I'm getting attacked when somebody give
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Speaker 1: me their opinion on something. And I know in the
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Speaker 1: past that's been my problem, is always feeling attacked when
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Speaker 1: somebody go against my way of thinking. Hmm, what were
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Speaker 1: you so sad about? Man? I got dumped, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Also, the breakup, yeah, mess me up
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Speaker 1: because I feel like this was like my first healthy relationship.
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Speaker 1: All my other relationship was like based off like trauma
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Speaker 1: bonding and stuff like that was my baby bonding, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Just hurt people. Yeah, just like
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Speaker 1: hurt people love hurt people, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So they hurt together exactly. So this was the first
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Speaker 1: time I felt like I had a girl who's like
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Speaker 1: she was open to my kid, like, she was receptive
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Speaker 1: to him, she was at the games with me. It
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Speaker 1: was just healthy and I don't think I knew how
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Speaker 1: to handle that. So I don't think I was a
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Speaker 1: great boyfriend at the time. But also she had a
7:05
Speaker 1: lot of growling to do, and so I think we
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Speaker 1: just hit our ceiling and it messed me up because
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Speaker 1: I was my best friend. Also, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: that was the part I didn't know how to like.
7:15
Speaker 1: I was just trying to fill that void because it
7:17
Speaker 1: was just missing. So I was messing with a lot
7:18
Speaker 1: of thoughts and stuff like that just to feel that space.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know how to sit sit at home by
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Speaker 1: myself for more than a day. I got to have
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Speaker 1: somebody over, but then also don't want them like being
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Speaker 1: cleany or kissing on me. It's just like it's just weird.
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Speaker 1: So you kind of use like a that was kind
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Speaker 1: of like your coping mechanism exactly being a thought being
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Speaker 1: a thought. Yeah, how do you feel like you're over it? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I still go through days when I'm mad because I
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Speaker 1: feel like I didn't get no closure, right. I feel
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Speaker 1: like what happened just disappeared on your well, it's just
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Speaker 1: you know, life, her life. I feel like she still
7:53
Speaker 1: have to go through her whole phase. I ain't gonna lie.
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Speaker 1: I feel honestly, it's an important phase to every girl,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I feel like she
7:58
Speaker 1: was starting to grow to resent me because she still
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Speaker 1: had she had life she needed to see. She also
8:04
Speaker 1: a singer, so I felt like I'm not sure she
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Speaker 1: felt supported in all the space of her career, and
8:10
Speaker 1: I got an ego too, so who knows how I
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Speaker 1: was acting or how she was perceiving it. But I
8:14
Speaker 1: also don't want to hold her accountable. She was doing
8:16
Speaker 1: weird stuff on Instagram, you know, she dating somebody I
8:19
Speaker 1: know now and oh shit and stuff like that. But
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Speaker 1: what was like for you, Like, was there a specific
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Speaker 1: reason why it took you so long to get this
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Speaker 1: album out or do you feel like it was just
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Speaker 1: I mean, so many different things probably ended up accumulating
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Speaker 1: in this I know I could. I'm sure it was
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Speaker 1: because I was in my head a lot. I'm so
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Speaker 1: heavy on like growth and like making sure my my
8:42
Speaker 1: next stuff is buried in my last project, and I
8:44
Speaker 1: felt like my last project was so amazing, So that
8:46
Speaker 1: first year after that, I was definitely in that bag.
8:49
Speaker 1: When I finally was ready to record again, I feel
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Speaker 1: like I was making the same songs that I did
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Speaker 1: from Everything for Sale because it was my comfort space.
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Speaker 1: So then it was that my managers having to be like, nah,
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Speaker 1: we not doing this again. You're gonna have to find
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Speaker 1: a new pocket. So being frustrated about that took a
9:04
Speaker 1: minute to get over that hump. Then yeah, I finally
9:08
Speaker 1: got to a space where I had something I wanted
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Speaker 1: to talk about. I also don't know how to draw
9:11
Speaker 1: from fake spaces. I gotta find something something real. Yeah,
9:15
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I obviously don't want
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Speaker 1: this to be my production rate. Every three years I
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Speaker 1: drop an album. So I think the therapy also like
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Speaker 1: opening my mind up to stuff. It's been helping. So
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Speaker 1: I think I'm in a great space now. So you
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Speaker 1: mentioned LVRN, I mean yeah, I bring it up a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: those my managers are great. Shout out to them. Shout
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Speaker 1: out to them. Yo. They have some of my favorite artists,
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Speaker 1: Me and Me and me and me, and I love
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Speaker 1: I Love I Love Black. That's my dog. Amazing. Huh,
9:43
Speaker 1: he's the man. I love Black. Black's like he's like
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Speaker 1: I would say, he's like in my probably top five
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Speaker 1: favorite artists of the last decade. I love Black's new music. Man,
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Speaker 1: it's coming black season. I just seen you on somebody's
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Speaker 1: story the other day, so I'm way like you, bro.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we need some new music, yeah for sure,
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Speaker 1: some new merch all that good stuff. What is it for?
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Speaker 1: You know? Cause like I feel like being signed to
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Speaker 1: eminem has got to be a gifted a curse? How
10:12
Speaker 1: how would you kind of perceive it? Because we always
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Speaker 1: hear like, what curse? What do you think is a curse?
10:17
Speaker 1: I mean, Eminem is you know, he's he's the greatest
10:20
Speaker 1: rapper alive, that is I feel, you know what I mean?
10:23
Speaker 1: So like when people think of Eminem, they think of
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Speaker 1: him being like the goat, you know. And I feel
10:29
Speaker 1: like anytime he signs an artist, it's very much expected
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Speaker 1: that that artist also has to be in that scene.
10:35
Speaker 1: And like, think about he signed you, he signed the
10:37
Speaker 1: Griselda Guys Slaughterhouse back in the day. I'm forgetting I'm sure. Yeah,
10:41
Speaker 1: some other artists. Who else on shady? Yellow Wolf? Who?
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Speaker 1: Yellow Wolf? Yello? Oh yellow Wolf? Yeah, but that means
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Speaker 1: he's not on shady anymore? Who's on shady? You don't
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Speaker 1: know that he kind had of falling out? Oh my bad?
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Speaker 1: I believe yellow Wolf. No, I don't say my bad.
10:57
Speaker 1: I don't know the place. Royce my dog. But let
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Speaker 1: me just tell you this, I don't think Royce is
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Speaker 1: on shady though he was at the point, come on,
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Speaker 1: wasn't you know better than me? Why shout out to
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Speaker 1: roy is really one of my favorite people in the world.
11:15
Speaker 1: It's also one of the greatest rappers of all time. Literally,
11:18
Speaker 1: I literally think at any given time he might be
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Speaker 1: a greatest rapper alive. There's like a few of those guys.
11:23
Speaker 1: It's like Royce Black thought, I think Conway's in that discussion.
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Speaker 1: I think when you're at your peak, you could be
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Speaker 1: in that discussion, Emine if you didn't say something towards me.
11:35
Speaker 1: I was about the trip, like no, fuck you. But
11:39
Speaker 1: what I'll be saying is like, I don't know, I
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Speaker 1: never feel it because it's the one I'm competitive, So
11:45
Speaker 1: it's like everybody's like even playing field for me. Obviously,
11:47
Speaker 1: I respect everything how Eminem changed my life, but you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm still trying to get to
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Speaker 1: where I'm trying to go. So I don't feel no
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Speaker 1: pressure from whatever Eminem is accomplished, because I like that
11:57
Speaker 1: my own goals. And also, it's like this ship I
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Speaker 1: faced in my neighborhood. It's like, once I come to
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Speaker 1: this shit, it's like it's just nothing. It's like, whatever,
12:05
Speaker 1: what's some little you know, it's a little little not
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Speaker 1: like that's some little white kids on the internet that's
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Speaker 1: gonna be mad. I'm not rapping fast. It's the most,
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Speaker 1: the most. It is a thing, for real, for real,
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Speaker 1: My It's like, from the outside looking in, a lot
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Speaker 1: of people think I don't fit with the shady rosters
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Speaker 1: stand for. You know what I'm saying, eminem though, you
12:20
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I could borrow any given time,
12:22
Speaker 1: and that's not I just don't want to do it
12:23
Speaker 1: all the time. Way you can borrow up eminem at
12:25
Speaker 1: any time, you know what I'm saying. Maybe, but I
12:28
Speaker 1: was just saying, you know, I could go off, but
12:32
Speaker 1: that's not you know what I'm saying. I'm more so
12:34
Speaker 1: in delivering my message, and if great lines come in
12:37
Speaker 1: the process of that, that's dope, little metaphors and stuff,
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Speaker 1: But trying to get my point across it and make
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Speaker 1: great music and talk to my people. So yeah, don't
12:44
Speaker 1: care about what those shady fans are saying. I love
12:47
Speaker 1: the ship out of y'all. But you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
12:49
Speaker 1: I was just in Detroit. I told you what Tech
12:50
Speaker 1: nine concert in Detroit, and I saw with my own
12:53
Speaker 1: eyes Detroit white people, like not just normal white people
12:58
Speaker 1: like Detroit white people like you know, like that listened
13:01
Speaker 1: to insane clown possy and stuff, and I was like, yeah,
13:05
Speaker 1: it was just a different different white trash in Detroit hits.
13:08
Speaker 1: You gotta see Australian white trash. I bet you they're
13:11
Speaker 1: fucking different, but I bet you they could survive off
13:14
Speaker 1: the grid. Nah. It was fired. Eighty thousand people five
13:17
Speaker 1: year olds out there in Australia and Australia at this
13:20
Speaker 1: concert and it was just wild. You opened YEP and
13:23
Speaker 1: he brought me out on his head. That's a big man.
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Speaker 1: Super grateful for that. Nice guy, Eminem, Yes, nice guy. Uh.
13:31
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel bad for how big he is because
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Speaker 1: he can't do some of the stuff that he would
13:34
Speaker 1: probably want to regular people want to do. So I
13:38
Speaker 1: do see he trapped in celebrity sometimes, but I take that.
13:42
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know you obviously wrote
13:45
Speaker 1: on the album, but I just want to get your
13:46
Speaker 1: opinion on this Kendrick album. Man, amazing, it's incredible right
13:50
Speaker 1: to be from Compton. Shout out to that. What was
13:52
Speaker 1: your favorite song on the album? Count me out? Count
13:54
Speaker 1: me O's amazing love at that's right when I right
13:58
Speaker 1: after we listened, I was just the one, I said
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Speaker 1: play back again, did you. I was gonna say, like,
14:02
Speaker 1: how did you initially listen to the album? Because for me,
14:04
Speaker 1: like we had like premiered it at the radio station,
14:07
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I don't want to listen
14:09
Speaker 1: to it tonight because I can't give it all the
14:11
Speaker 1: attention I wanted. So I waited until like Saturday or
14:13
Speaker 1: Sunday and just sat with it and my friend made
14:16
Speaker 1: it thing. We it was like my close music friends,
14:19
Speaker 1: like my two producers and a couple other people I respect,
14:22
Speaker 1: and we had the lights low. I was sitting on
14:24
Speaker 1: the floor with it, bottle champagne and we just played
14:27
Speaker 1: it too. Incredible body of work, and I feel like
14:30
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's it's like the vulnerability from artist's
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Speaker 1: biggest Kendrick, Like, think how vulnerable he is, And that's
14:37
Speaker 1: that's the necessary part. And I'm glad you said that,
14:39
Speaker 1: because that's extremely necessary, super necessary. Somebody that big is
14:43
Speaker 1: still vulnerable and not yeah, and still goes through like
14:46
Speaker 1: the same random human situations we go. Yeah, because to
14:50
Speaker 1: do this that he opened and talked about it, Yeah,
14:52
Speaker 1: everyone goes through it, but like not everyone in his
14:54
Speaker 1: position is going to share that kind of shit. You
14:59
Speaker 1: helping Summer with reverse, Like, just give me a little
15:01
Speaker 1: rundown of how that happened? Are in dream Team this
15:06
Speaker 1: the play was brought to me by Justice Uh, one
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Speaker 1: of my managers, and I just helped to what I
15:10
Speaker 1: can help with scent it over. You know what I'm saying,
15:12
Speaker 1: Summer did her thing went crazy? That's gotta be up there,
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Speaker 1: and like, you know, being a kid from Compton, Yeah yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying. Kendrick one of
15:21
Speaker 1: my favorite rappers in the world. So would you say,
15:24
Speaker 1: because I always say Kendrick is top five, dead or alive.
15:26
Speaker 1: I feel like if you could put Biggie in your
15:28
Speaker 1: top five, you old dusty ass motherfuckers. By the way,
15:30
Speaker 1: I'm one of them. M hm, he's got two albums.
15:33
Speaker 1: I don't put bigg in my top five, but a
15:35
Speaker 1: lot of people don't like Brian go get it from
15:38
Speaker 1: from Interscope who was here with you? He's an old
15:40
Speaker 1: dusty New Yorker. He's definitely in his top five off
15:42
Speaker 1: a two hours get it though. But I'm like, Yoka,
15:45
Speaker 1: if you get my top five, did or a lot
15:47
Speaker 1: what the effects? And he's probably. I mean, I feel like,
15:51
Speaker 1: if you think of like first and if we're not
15:53
Speaker 1: even we're excluding section eighty. But let's even include like
15:57
Speaker 1: section eighty. But like, I feel like the only person
16:00
Speaker 1: who could fuck with his first four albums is Kanye.
16:03
Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good point. Facts them first
16:06
Speaker 1: four albums was undeniable because if it's section eighty, good Kid,
16:11
Speaker 1: Mad City to Pimp a Butterfly, Damn, that's for well.
16:14
Speaker 1: I mean, if he takes section eighty out, let's start
16:15
Speaker 1: with this good good Kid, Mad City. Yeah, even ship,
16:19
Speaker 1: not including untitled, which is kind of like his lost tapes.
16:22
Speaker 1: You know I love untitled me too. That was my
16:24
Speaker 1: ship doesn't get talked about enough. And we got an
16:27
Speaker 1: untitled project from Kendrick. That's some real rap ship. Like
16:30
Speaker 1: NAS gave us a lost tapes, Kendrick gave us untitled. Yeah,
16:32
Speaker 1: he really gave us a lot of music. Who is
16:35
Speaker 1: your top five? That's a weird question, but like you know,
16:37
Speaker 1: it's probably, I mean, it don't really rotate. It's the
16:41
Speaker 1: same ones. I'm not gonna say no order, but I
16:43
Speaker 1: just know it's Lil Wayne, Kendrick, jay Z, tupac Eminem
16:53
Speaker 1: was the last one. Political. You don't say Eminem. Those
16:58
Speaker 1: dusty white kids are coming for you this at the
17:00
Speaker 1: on the craft of music. Yeah, he might be number one.
17:03
Speaker 1: If we just talk we're talking about ability to rap.
17:05
Speaker 1: It's probably number one exactly. So yeah, my ability of
17:08
Speaker 1: rapping Eminem could be I mean yeah, I mean yeah.
17:11
Speaker 1: Discography you know with agree to disagree? You you like
17:17
Speaker 1: his discography? Discography? Yeah, but I'm not gonna debate you
17:20
Speaker 1: on it either. Yeah, I got you, I get it man. Yeah,
17:23
Speaker 1: but yep. I love everything Eminem does. Love his first
17:25
Speaker 1: three albums. Everything Eminem has ever dropped is amazing. Loved
17:29
Speaker 1: his first three I thought you were asking me. I
17:31
Speaker 1: loved music. To be murdered by that ship was fire?
17:34
Speaker 1: What's the least favorite one had all his albums? Val
17:37
Speaker 1: was a revival? Was that the one that came out
17:40
Speaker 1: in like where he Was? You know? That's the one
17:43
Speaker 1: he said he didn't like, right, one of them he
17:45
Speaker 1: said he didn't like Listen. I'm gonna say this about Eminem.
17:48
Speaker 1: Eminem is one of my favorites ever. Eminem Show is
17:50
Speaker 1: one of my favorite albums of all time. I love
17:52
Speaker 1: Eminem Show. It's my favorite m album. I just man
17:57
Speaker 1: Skylar Gray on every fucking album. Oh my god, you're
18:03
Speaker 1: shout out of the Skylark. I'm just tired of Skylar Graham,
18:06
Speaker 1: Pink Hooks, Cooks. I respect that, but I did love
18:10
Speaker 1: Recovery was dope. That was a newer one. I mean
18:13
Speaker 1: that was it's like twelve years old now, but like
18:14
Speaker 1: Recovery was fire and Music to be murdered By was
18:18
Speaker 1: like a vintage Eminem album. To me, it's because do
18:20
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy? Because like I just missed Like
18:23
Speaker 1: a lot of people used to talk shit about Eminem's production,
18:25
Speaker 1: but I liked it now. It used to be hard
18:27
Speaker 1: to me too, So like all those albums, like especially
18:29
Speaker 1: like Eminem Show, you would hear like Eminem production and
18:31
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, but then I feel like he
18:33
Speaker 1: kind of just got a web. Music to be murdered
18:36
Speaker 1: By it was my ship. I was like, this feels
18:38
Speaker 1: like a vintage Eminem project. That's amazing and not a
18:42
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, ballads. Shout out to Skylar Gray though.
18:45
Speaker 1: Have you met Skyler Gray? Yep, she was in Australia.
18:48
Speaker 1: She was a nice lady, amazing lady. Nice shout out
18:51
Speaker 1: to her. Man was the Skylar Gray man shout out
18:53
Speaker 1: to her and sharing pink all of them, shut all
18:58
Speaker 1: of them out to white people, man, white people in general.
19:00
Speaker 1: Man with your album, like you know, I know you're
19:04
Speaker 1: not gonna give us any features because Shelley on there.
19:07
Speaker 1: But that was on a single, so okay, yeah that's
19:10
Speaker 1: already out. But anyway, how many rappers? How many other
19:13
Speaker 1: rappers are on the album? How about that? Just give
19:14
Speaker 1: me that? M m M. As of right now, I'm
19:20
Speaker 1: counting four in my brain. If we just say they rap,
19:23
Speaker 1: yeah for the rappers? Yeah, yeah, no idea when the
19:28
Speaker 1: album's coming out or I got idea, an idea I
19:31
Speaker 1: will say in the next forty days. That sounds about right. Yeah,
19:35
Speaker 1: I mean you are making your rounds exactly, you know
19:37
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, what about like in terms of
19:40
Speaker 1: like your writing process. A lot of times, like when
19:44
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio, a lot of artists nowadays, I
19:46
Speaker 1: feel like they do they punch in line by line,
19:48
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I can't. I don't.
19:49
Speaker 1: I can't. I respect people who do that and imire him.
19:52
Speaker 1: I just can't do that. That just seems so like
19:55
Speaker 1: counterproductive for me. Are you still putting the pen to
19:57
Speaker 1: paper or the notes. Nah, I just I write in
20:00
Speaker 1: my brain. I've been doing that since ninth grade when
20:02
Speaker 1: my glass is messed up and I can see like
20:04
Speaker 1: the paper no more. But also I just need a
20:06
Speaker 1: trigger word, Like if I'm scared, I'm gonna forget the sentence,
20:09
Speaker 1: I just write a word down in my notes. Oh fire,
20:12
Speaker 1: It's one word, and then I could connect the bar.
20:13
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember the bar. Oh shit like that? So
20:16
Speaker 1: will you like do that? Like? Like I guess if
20:19
Speaker 1: you get send a pack of beats, are you doing
20:21
Speaker 1: that shit in the studio or are you doing that
20:22
Speaker 1: shit at home? And then I don't like the studio.
20:24
Speaker 1: I hate the studio. I do everything at home. I
20:25
Speaker 1: literally hate the studio. Why because it's cold, it's people
20:30
Speaker 1: walking around. It's just like I need my intimate. My
20:33
Speaker 1: music is so personal to me. I'm not ready for
20:36
Speaker 1: people to It's only a certain amount of people I
20:37
Speaker 1: trust to hear it. And you record yourself, no, but
20:40
Speaker 1: he with me every day, my producer Engineering Area, one
20:43
Speaker 1: of my best friends. So I can't record myself, though
20:45
Speaker 1: I definitely send him stuff when I'm just at home. Yeah,
20:47
Speaker 1: when Blast just told us that he recorded Chosen on
20:51
Speaker 1: a Focus right in a road mic at his house.
20:55
Speaker 1: That shit blew my mind. I was like, that's crazy.
20:57
Speaker 1: That's like the two hundred and fifty dollars like package.
20:59
Speaker 1: That's but I did my first project, thirty forty eight
21:02
Speaker 1: I did at home by myself too. That Michael was
21:03
Speaker 1: probably fifty dollars. So I just had to stack my
21:06
Speaker 1: vocals a bunch of times to make it sound full.
21:08
Speaker 1: I just copy and paste, copy and paste because I
21:10
Speaker 1: didn't know how to really do it. Mix some aster shit, yeah,
21:12
Speaker 1: and I just put it out. So, uh, what in
21:15
Speaker 1: your you know, obviously LA. I feel like it's kind
21:18
Speaker 1: of how the renaissance in terms of like getting a
21:21
Speaker 1: lot more respected hip hop, and you know, I feel
21:23
Speaker 1: like there was like a dry spell, you know, from
21:26
Speaker 1: like man, I was just with this nigga from LA,
21:28
Speaker 1: I mean Atlanta the other day. He was talking crazy
21:31
Speaker 1: about LA and just how we not respected outside of
21:34
Speaker 1: LA and it was pissing me off. And then it
21:36
Speaker 1: was just like rowdy flopped, where's that at. We don't
21:39
Speaker 1: got him? And it's like I'll be saying it, I'd
21:42
Speaker 1: be one in the world's respect it. But it still
21:44
Speaker 1: feels like we got a lot of work to do
21:46
Speaker 1: as far as, like what I was saying yesterday is
21:49
Speaker 1: out here, they always want to bring up Atlanta and
21:50
Speaker 1: how everybody support each other. The streets dictate how LA
21:53
Speaker 1: move and you know what I'm saying, everybody can't move
21:56
Speaker 1: around each Well, I was gonna say, do you feel
21:57
Speaker 1: like that? That is because I always say that, like
21:59
Speaker 1: sometimes the pop pics or get in the way of
22:01
Speaker 1: like certain artists working together, or like you said, people
22:06
Speaker 1: say that about Atlanta, but it might not be actually
22:09
Speaker 1: possible for everyone to move together out here. But I
22:11
Speaker 1: do feel like there is some sort of cohesiveness with
22:13
Speaker 1: some of the younger generation when it comes to like
22:15
Speaker 1: the Rucci's and the One Take Jays, and like obviously
22:19
Speaker 1: nationally they might not be where we want them to be,
22:21
Speaker 1: But I just feel like there's something, you know, the
22:23
Speaker 1: lac and that is thriving. And that's what makes One
22:26
Speaker 1: Take I think will make One Takes you amazing because
22:28
Speaker 1: he stay true to hisself. He's not trying to gang bang,
22:31
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and that make him able
22:33
Speaker 1: to move in all these different spaces, and we need
22:35
Speaker 1: artists like that that could do that. He could go
22:37
Speaker 1: do work with Rucci and then go work with Blue
22:40
Speaker 1: Face and then just be anywhere he want. You know,
22:41
Speaker 1: I'm saying nobody saying it and nobody saying nothing, and
22:44
Speaker 1: we love them, but it's a lot of niggas. It's
22:46
Speaker 1: a lot of upcoming artists that feel they got to
22:48
Speaker 1: attest theirselves to a neighborhood. And that's just young black
22:52
Speaker 1: men in general. They gotta feel like they got to
22:54
Speaker 1: do that to feel like secure or feel cool. So
22:56
Speaker 1: then that prevents them from being able to work with
22:58
Speaker 1: other artists because it's thirty years of tension between these
23:02
Speaker 1: two neighborhoods and you just can't do it. Yeah, it's
23:05
Speaker 1: crazy because, uh, you know, working with Head had had
23:08
Speaker 1: to break down all the politics at LA to me
23:09
Speaker 1: one night when I first moved out here in like
23:11
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, I was like, fuck, I had no idea.
23:15
Speaker 1: It's sad. It's hell, it's sad. But people from the
23:17
Speaker 1: outside that don't live here don't understand like the intricacies
23:20
Speaker 1: of some of the shit because like we just think
23:22
Speaker 1: of like nationally, you think of LA, you just think
23:24
Speaker 1: blood's versus crips, Like it's definitely not that simple. No,
23:27
Speaker 1: it's not. It's bloods versus blood this bloods, crips verse cribs.
23:30
Speaker 1: That's the majority of the time of what it is.
23:32
Speaker 1: It's like same, all same now. So it's like and
23:34
Speaker 1: it's like some of the more heavier conflicts are between
23:38
Speaker 1: except you know, crips verse cribs actually son and then
23:42
Speaker 1: not knowing what had to wear in what areas? Man.
23:45
Speaker 1: I I remember it was recently. I knew somebody that
23:49
Speaker 1: got that got shot and I was trying to support them,
23:51
Speaker 1: and then I had commented on the page like I
23:54
Speaker 1: hope you get better, and then I know somebody was like, yeah,
23:58
Speaker 1: egrace the other thing because you know what I'm saying
24:00
Speaker 1: has something to do with that, and I'm just like, oh,
24:02
Speaker 1: what happened? Man, I'm like, I never know nothing. I'm
24:04
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Speaker 1: Who are some of your favorite LA artists that like
25:11
Speaker 1: are kind of on the come up? You know what
25:12
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that you're just a fan of I
25:14
Speaker 1: like Babystone Guerrillas. I like what they're doing. My young homies.
25:18
Speaker 1: I gotta give them a shameless plug. Epic must Die
25:20
Speaker 1: in KB Devine who else I like right now? Asim
25:24
Speaker 1: a bobster, I think he dope. He's got that, uh,
25:28
Speaker 1: I like doing your move. Wally is from my neighborhood. Obviously,
25:32
Speaker 1: I love Wally. Wally's dope Wally and why yes, I
25:35
Speaker 1: love him. Key Riches three youngest from my neighborhood that
25:38
Speaker 1: I love. And let me see what else out here.
25:41
Speaker 1: I still want to take j but he already kind
25:43
Speaker 1: of up now. Wally is dope though. Waley amazing, super talented,
25:47
Speaker 1: Like you're really right, and yeah, I feel like he
25:49
Speaker 1: makes records that can really translate, like exactly, and that's
25:51
Speaker 1: one of them artists that like that can move outside
25:53
Speaker 1: of LA and people connect to it. You know what
25:55
Speaker 1: I'm saying a lot of what we got to stop
25:58
Speaker 1: doing is stop making our music just so about like
26:00
Speaker 1: for our homies. And I used to do that early too,
26:03
Speaker 1: Like I'm just gonna make music for the hood, so
26:04
Speaker 1: when I come to the hood, the hood could be
26:06
Speaker 1: playing it. But then we go out, you want the
26:08
Speaker 1: world to play, yeah, exactly, then you leave it like
26:10
Speaker 1: what the fuck? I mean? That's why Roddy figured it,
26:13
Speaker 1: you know, they figured it out. That's what I'm saying
26:14
Speaker 1: once once you find the formulist up and so yeah,
26:17
Speaker 1: even when we had that wave of muster and Roddy,
26:19
Speaker 1: I think it was a year or two ago, right,
26:21
Speaker 1: Uh Roddy's album came out in uh December of twenty nineteen,
26:29
Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was everywhere, and I feel
26:32
Speaker 1: like that was our chance to like be back in
26:34
Speaker 1: the world and like figure it out. But you know,
26:36
Speaker 1: we're still gonna have our shot. But it's crazy because
26:39
Speaker 1: you think of the Roddy situation and like how long
26:41
Speaker 1: he took to put out put out his album kind
26:43
Speaker 1: of similar to you. And I feel like sometimes when
26:48
Speaker 1: you wait a while, you can maybe overthink it and
26:51
Speaker 1: you know it's not it's a real fear, and it's
26:53
Speaker 1: a real thing because the more they it's always gonna
26:56
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you made this this way this long,
26:58
Speaker 1: and you didn't live up to expectations because you're not
27:00
Speaker 1: gonna be able to please everybody, and that one time
27:02
Speaker 1: you see that could just mess up your whole mental state.
27:05
Speaker 1: I know for me it will, like you know what
27:06
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's tough, but you also don't want
27:10
Speaker 1: to oversaturate yourself. You also don't want to rush your product,
27:13
Speaker 1: but you gotta let that shit go. You do. Gotta
27:16
Speaker 1: just let it go and just create and just give
27:19
Speaker 1: it out to the world. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
27:20
Speaker 1: low key, man, I mean I see. I feel like
27:23
Speaker 1: that sometimes, Like when we think of like we all
27:25
Speaker 1: know artists, you're one of them. I'm sure that. I'm
27:28
Speaker 1: sure you've had songs that you've recorded in the last
27:30
Speaker 1: three years that you loved, like two and a half
27:33
Speaker 1: years ago when you first recorded them, they probably didn't
27:34
Speaker 1: make the album because they might have been old to you. Yeah,
27:36
Speaker 1: did that happen. No, it still happens. I just had
27:39
Speaker 1: to bring an old song back like two weeks ago
27:42
Speaker 1: because it's old to you, but no one's heard it exactly.
27:44
Speaker 1: I see that shit all the time. But I'm glad
27:46
Speaker 1: if I left the song for a little bit and
27:48
Speaker 1: came back to it and with new ears and I
27:50
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was tripping this song slap and
27:52
Speaker 1: that'd be a lot a lot of times too. So yeah.
27:56
Speaker 1: But I also I feel like I've rushed songs out
27:58
Speaker 1: that I was just trying to put music out and
28:00
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't really love this, But then
28:02
Speaker 1: I guess that could happen all the time. Why do
28:04
Speaker 1: you think you're still so slept on, man, because I
28:06
Speaker 1: feel like you're very slept on, very underrated when it
28:08
Speaker 1: comes to just the conversations of just the best rappers,
28:11
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I feel like you
28:12
Speaker 1: don't get the respect you deserve. What I notice, I'm
28:16
Speaker 1: super respected by artists. It's like I'm just a nigga
28:19
Speaker 1: that's known in the artists world to like, oh yeah,
28:21
Speaker 1: not to play with boogie. But it could be consistency,
28:23
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like dropping more that could
28:25
Speaker 1: be a thing. I hate to turn slept on because
28:28
Speaker 1: I feel so much love, but I get it when
28:29
Speaker 1: people say it, but it's I don't never really feel it.
28:32
Speaker 1: I know I'm supposed to be bigger, but it's slept
28:34
Speaker 1: on always. It's like it's really my fault if I'm not.
28:37
Speaker 1: It is where I need to. Yeah, I think it's
28:39
Speaker 1: just like I feel like an artist like yourself, like
28:41
Speaker 1: I just feel like we just need more music. No,
28:43
Speaker 1: that's that's where and I get it. So you know
28:45
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's all it is consistency. So
28:49
Speaker 1: that's if you if any artists want to learn from me,
28:51
Speaker 1: learn from me and like get out your head and
28:54
Speaker 1: move forward, you know what I'm saying. And get some
28:55
Speaker 1: therapy if you need it. Even if you don't need it,
28:57
Speaker 1: you might not even know you need it. We all
28:59
Speaker 1: need it. I said, well, I'm talking to black people.
29:02
Speaker 1: I know for sure you got some type of unaddressed
29:04
Speaker 1: trauma somewhere you gotta be. Have ever done any hallucinogenics
29:09
Speaker 1: at all, like shrooms or any day? And I'm scared
29:10
Speaker 1: of shrooms right now because that shit revealed that I
29:13
Speaker 1: had some crazy shit going on in my brain and
29:15
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it again, so I'm gonna to fix
29:18
Speaker 1: myself some more. I like that. So you took shrooms,
29:20
Speaker 1: and it kind of like I took it was because
29:22
Speaker 1: I was against it like forever. So it was just
29:24
Speaker 1: like last year, I had like a month where I
29:26
Speaker 1: did ascid and like shrooms and it was crazy, very
29:30
Speaker 1: therapeutic thing to do do it the right way. I
29:33
Speaker 1: saw all my demons, I saw myself, and I hated
29:35
Speaker 1: who I saw. You can change your life low key facts,
29:38
Speaker 1: and I'm damn near preaching like niggas need therapy and
29:42
Speaker 1: shrooms just as much. I feel like every everybody needs
29:45
Speaker 1: to do shrooms once because like you gotta see that shit, Mike,
29:48
Speaker 1: that shit was crazy. Yeah, what about would you ever
29:51
Speaker 1: try DMT? Man? I don't think I'm ready because I
29:55
Speaker 1: could barely handle shrooms. Yeah, I feel like DMT you
29:57
Speaker 1: gotta be like really Yeah, and what's the other out
30:00
Speaker 1: of Waska ayahuasca? Yeah? Ayahuasca? Yeah, that's like a all
30:03
Speaker 1: day thing. You need a shaman. You need a shaman.
30:06
Speaker 1: You got to like prepare yourself. Your body probably will
30:09
Speaker 1: never be able to come back from that. I don't know, man,
30:11
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people. You know. It's funny
30:13
Speaker 1: because I got a couple of homies that have done
30:14
Speaker 1: ayhuasca and they say it's like thirty years of therapy
30:17
Speaker 1: in like six hours too. It's crazy, like so much,
30:20
Speaker 1: I can do it. I want to do it eventually. Yeah,
30:23
Speaker 1: I know that they have like some groups in like
30:25
Speaker 1: Malibu and Santa Monica to do it. I like low
30:28
Speaker 1: key want to go to like Costa Rica where it's
30:31
Speaker 1: at that. But I also I'm like free, I'm going
30:34
Speaker 1: to throw up ship on myself. Yeah, And they say
30:35
Speaker 1: you do that projecting or projectile or whatever. No, but shrooms.
30:39
Speaker 1: Shrooms are the wave, like we got to normalized shrooms
30:42
Speaker 1: in hip hop. Man, micro dose, you got a micro dose.
30:45
Speaker 1: No more perks. Leave the perks alone, the perks alone,
30:48
Speaker 1: and micro micro doose bro. All right, Well, look, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna get album in the next forty days. Forty days,
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Speaker 1: all right, rappers on it for rappers, a singer too,
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Speaker 1: the singer too, singer to it's black on the album.
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Speaker 1: I'm not giving him no info, but also a black
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Speaker 1: man album. Listen, man, this fly has been fun to
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Speaker 1: be his ass or this fly has been flying around
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Speaker 1: this whole interview, this whole interview. This fly is a
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Speaker 1: co star of the fucking interview. That's what we care
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Speaker 1: for leaving the front door open earlier. But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: appreciate you pulling up man. I can't wait to hear
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Speaker 1: the album. Thank you. Man. I'm gonna have him send
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Speaker 1: it to you early. Yeah, send it to me early.
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Speaker 1: So I no rap cap, no rap cap there it
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Speaker 1: is my guy, check my hand on camera, all right, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Man. All right, we're gonna do a video
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Speaker 1: drop in this camera, that one where you just introduce yourself.
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