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161: Post Traumatic Mess · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown, I'm Brian. I'm Greg.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Lucy. I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Alan.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Merlita.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Beau.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 10: And we've got the full house once again. So it
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  Speaker 10: is time for another exciting episode of the Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 6: Cappuccino my butt. I still drink coffee.
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  Speaker 3: The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.
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  Speaker 6: It's time for the Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 10: We're coming to you live via digital recording from Nancy's
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  Speaker 10: Bagel Grounds, where we will hang out, drink coffee, talk movies,
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  Speaker 10: and traumatize each other or something. So Marlena, I ask you,
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  Speaker 10: what blend of coffee are we drinking this week?
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  Speaker 11: Fishers and Fallers.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 12: Um, we, we're, we're trying to control our geek activities
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  Speaker 12: week to week now.
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  Speaker 1: So, um, who do we want to, Alan, do you
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  Speaker 1: want to go this time around?
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, so I think at last count, I want, I've
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  Speaker 2: seen like 10 in the last week.
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  Speaker 10: Um, so you just got a vhs player all right
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  Speaker 10: right it was.
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  Speaker 2: All cruel well part of it was uh my wife
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  Speaker 2: and i we found like the first four final destination
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  Speaker 2: films on like a ten dollar four pack so we
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  Speaker 2: marathoned the first oh.
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  Speaker 10: You brave soul the first one's a fun movie there's
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  Speaker 10: there's some good kills in that second one by the
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  Speaker 10: third you might as well just wrap it up for
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  Speaker 10: the third See, the third one, I don't even remember
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  Speaker 10: if I watched. I went and saw 4 and 5
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  Speaker 10: when they went 3D just to see how stupid they
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  Speaker 10: would make it.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't even remember if I watched 3, actually.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. But the worst movie I saw,
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  Speaker 2: and yet the one I keep telling people about, I
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  Speaker 2: saw Real Steel. Oh, yay.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anybody that's seen it. Have you
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  Speaker 1: seen it? No, I wouldn't care.
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  Speaker 2: The reason I watched it is really stupid. My wife
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  Speaker 2: and I were getting ready for our third annual Oscars
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  Speaker 2: drinking game, so I'm trying to watch as many of
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  Speaker 2: the nominees as I can. And this only got nominated
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  Speaker 2: for visual effects, but there's not a whole lot on
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  Speaker 2: DVD yet, so I grabbed it. And I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was just going to be like this robots punching each other,
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  Speaker 2: kind of silly but kind of fun. And what it
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  Speaker 2: turned out to be was it tried to be this
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  Speaker 2: commentary on how technology is kind of usurping humanity.
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  Speaker 3: Except they were really stupid about it.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell are you saying? The Rock'em Sock'em Robots
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  Speaker 1: movie's stupid?
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  Speaker 6: I'm not buying it.
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  Speaker 5: To make you suspect they've already accomplished it, or that it.
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  Speaker 6: Doesn't really matter anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it done before. One of my favorites is
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  Speaker 2: Cronenberg's Crash, where humanity literally has a hard-on for technology.
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  Speaker 12: Literally is right.
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  Speaker 2: But with Real Steel, they tried to be clever about it.
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  Speaker 2: They have the... like, the scrappy underdog robot, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's just, like, second generation as opposed to, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: much better robots.
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  Speaker 1: It's Apple versus PC. Is that what you're saying?
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  Speaker 2: So, like, its name is Atom, A-T-O-M, but Atom, like,
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  Speaker 2: the first man, and then he goes up against the
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  Speaker 2: world champion Zeus, which is a god, so....
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  Speaker 3: The movie may have been a little xenophobic as well.
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  Speaker 12: Ah, nice.
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  Speaker 2: Because the bad guys were... japanese and russian and so
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  Speaker 2: it's this classic american underdog tale um where the the
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  Speaker 2: little guy goes up against the big guy.
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  Speaker 1: I must break you right.
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  Speaker 3: And um you know since they have heart and they
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  Speaker 3: believe in themselves.
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  Speaker 12: And there's a workout montage you know what actually.
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  Speaker 2: Um there was a They were doing the workout part
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh God, there's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a montage any minute now. When they passed the workout spot,
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  Speaker 2: the workout scene, I was like, thank God, no montage.
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  Speaker 2: And then it went into a fight montage.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's funny. My wife has been watching more
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  Speaker 1: movies recently, I think, because it's been rubbing off on,
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  Speaker 1: I'm rubbing off on her. And any time, especially a
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  Speaker 1: bad montage comes up, because I pointed out to her
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  Speaker 1: how many there are in movies and how cliche and
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  Speaker 1: And that it'll be five scenes and each one will,
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  Speaker 1: you know, anyway. And there's always food spilling or something.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 1: And I finally got to the point where I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to stare at you whenever one comes on.
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  Speaker 1: And she'll look at you and she'll, fuck you. Because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I refuse to watch them most of the
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  Speaker 1: time because they don't progress the film. They don't do
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  Speaker 1: anything for the movie. It's just cheap time filler and
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  Speaker 1: you plug your buddy's band or something like that. Or
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  Speaker 1: plugging the soundtrack.
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  Speaker 12: I like that you worked a new level of creepy
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  Speaker 12: into your marriage.
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  Speaker 6: Just staring at my wife.
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  Speaker 1: She's going to stare at you when it comes on.
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  Speaker 5: It gets harder and harder to achieve that new weapon.
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  Speaker 12: That's right. After a while, you've worn them down.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: So now basically your wife's going to go out with friends,
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  Speaker 13: see some movie that has a montage.
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  Speaker 1: She's going to start crying.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: No, she just, I just, I think it was that
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't noticing that when they happened and that I,
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  Speaker 1: I've grown. I'm like, you know, I'll look what they're doing.
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  Speaker 14: And then, and she's like, what?
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, well, what's going on now? So I
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  Speaker 1: am evil. Sorry. I, hijacked your deeply.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess in summation, real steel is not worth watching.
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  Speaker 2: It's a heartwarming tale where everybody learns a valuable lesson
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  Speaker 2: about perseverance and believing in yourself, believing in yourself, and
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  Speaker 2: finding the heart underneath your rough exterior.
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  Speaker 10: I like that one of the quotes they went to
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  Speaker 10: use for the promotion of it.
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  Speaker 1: Is, it's like Rocky with robots.
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  Speaker 15: Oh, Really?
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  Speaker 10: That's what you had to put on the box for us?
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  Speaker 10: Because we can't figure that out.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 12: I was just like, how dumb is America?
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  Speaker 6: Did they assume that the robots.
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  Speaker 1: Or make you assume or make you believe that the
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  Speaker 1: robots had emotion? Or just the underdog had emotion?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 14: Good.
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  Speaker 6: See, that's part of it as well.
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  Speaker 2: They infused humanity into the robot because instead of.
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  Speaker 3: programming it with a computer or however they do that.
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  Speaker 6: It didn't really explain.
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  Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman's character, he used to be a boxer. They
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  Speaker 2: used the shadow feature where the robot follows you.
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  Speaker 3: And he boxed for it and taught it himself.
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  Speaker 6: Is Hugh Jackman digital in it?
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  Speaker 1: They CG'd Hugh Jackman?
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  Speaker 6: Did they infuse him with emotion?
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  Speaker 10: Um... We're still working on that technology.
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  Speaker 12: Channing Tatum's the guinea pig.
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  Speaker 2: He's the one who learned all the values.
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  Speaker 13: I think Liam Neeson is the prototype. I have yet
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  Speaker 13: to see evidence that Liam Neeson really exists in real life.
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  Speaker 13: I think he's just straight up digital.
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  Speaker 12: He can kick a little sass, that's all I know.
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  Speaker 6: What did Roger say, though?
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  Speaker 1: He kills good? He kills people good.
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  Speaker 6: He kills good. I just like him because he was
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  Speaker 6: in Crawl, and you've watched that so many times.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's why I like Qui-Gon.
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  Speaker 8: No, you didn't.
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  Speaker 6: Nobody liked it. No, I didn't.
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  Speaker 12: So, other stuff to tie in?
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  Speaker 2: I'll end with just plugging in actually good movies.
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  Speaker 12: No, we don't watch those much.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we watched Tucker and Dale vs.
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  Speaker 6: Evil.
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  Speaker 1: That is good.
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  Speaker 3: Which was fun because actually my wife and I had
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  Speaker 3: watched Cabin Fever the night before.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good double feature.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was completely unintentional. But has everybody here seen?
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  Speaker 1: I've not seen. It's ready to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, it's a take on the Cabin in the Woods thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's that the rednecks are the good guys, and the
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  Speaker 2: teenagers are prejudiced and end up accidentally killing themselves all
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  Speaker 2: over the place. It's an Alan Tudyk's in it, and
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  Speaker 2: he's just amazing.
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  Speaker 1: He is awesome.
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  Speaker 6: So, don't watch Real Steel.
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  Speaker 1: Watch Tucker and Dale. That's one that I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: get her to watch with me.
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  Speaker 10: I think She would probably like it because, yeah, she
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  Speaker 10: probably doesn't like the real versions of the movie. So
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  Speaker 10: this is just kind of making fun of how stupid
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  Speaker 10: they are. So you can get her on board with that.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I've got.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of this, I'll have anybody listening. I just saw
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  Speaker 1: it today, specifically A-Day. Some nerd online took time to
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  Speaker 1: figure out what Ice Cube's Today Was a Good Day song.
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  Speaker 1: He took every line out of it, and the Lakers
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  Speaker 1: beat the Supersonics, and there was no smog in L.A. today,
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  Speaker 1: and he watched you on TV reps. We went through
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  Speaker 1: every identifiable thing and broke it down to the specific
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  Speaker 1: days that it had to be, and it came out
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  Speaker 1: like January 20, 1992. So if all of those events
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  Speaker 1: had to take place on that day, it had to be.
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  Speaker 1: that day for non-existence.
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  Speaker 7: I heard he did use his AK that day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure he probably did. So I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a nice waste of time for someone. That's a
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  Speaker 1: neat little article that the person wrote about it.
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  Speaker 5: What's the movie that takes like just video people took
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  Speaker 5: all around the world.
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  Speaker 6: Life in a day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, life in a day.
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  Speaker 5: It just seemed to tie into the ice cube.
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  Speaker 6: Have you seen that?
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  Speaker 13: No.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you should go see that after we leave.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's queued up, ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: I've got so many of those.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I have so much to talk about if I watch
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  Speaker 1: the movies I'm supposed to.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got too much to talk about as it is,
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  Speaker 5: so I'm going to have to, like, go talk into
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  Speaker 5: a mailbox or something before i watch anything.
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  Speaker 1: Just start recording your own podcast.
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  Speaker 10: We're just sitting on a mic and don't record it
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  Speaker 10: the kids will walk me like oh he's doing that again.
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  Speaker 5: Just don't bother him yeah like i don't do that
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  Speaker 5: sometimes my son is like you know i'll be out
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  Speaker 5: talking to somebody he's like dad i've heard.
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  Speaker 1: All your stories so many.
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  Speaker 6: Times you have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: He figures if we're ever in a freaky Friday scenario.
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  Speaker 6: He'll be able to pull it off.
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  Speaker 1: He'll get by just fine.
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  Speaker 6: You're screwed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You'll just be like, what is he doing?
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  Speaker 12: I don't know.
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  Speaker 15: All right.
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  Speaker 1: On that note, we should.
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  Speaker 12: Take a break and we will come back with this
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  Speaker 12: week's topic.
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  Speaker 16: Just waking up in the morning, gotta thank God I
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  Speaker 16: don't know, but today seems kinda odd No barking from
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  Speaker 16: the dog, no small And mama cooked a breakfast with
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  Speaker 16: no hog I got my grub on, but didn't dig
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  Speaker 16: out Finally got a call from a girl, wanna dig
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  Speaker 16: out Hooked it up for later as I hit the
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  Speaker 16: door Thinking will I live another 24 I gotta go
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  Speaker 16: cause I got me a drop top And if I
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  Speaker 16: hit the switch, I can make the ass drop had
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  Speaker 16: to stop at a red light looking in my mirror
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  Speaker 16: not a jacker in sight and everything is alright I
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  Speaker 16: got a beat from Kim and she can fuck all
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  Speaker 16: night called up the homies and I'm asking y'all which
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  Speaker 16: part are y'all playing basketball get me on the court
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  Speaker 16: and I'm troubled last week fucked around and got a
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  Speaker 16: triple double freaking niggas every way like MJ I can't
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  Speaker 16: believe today was a good day.
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  Speaker 17: It's intermission. Rise and stretch time. Time to refresh yourself
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  Speaker 17: and visit our snack bar. Got a yen for hot popcorn?
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  Speaker 17: of ice cream and candy to tempt you. Showtime will
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  Speaker 17: be announced loud and clear to get you back to
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  Speaker 17: your car in time. So stretch your legs. Come to
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  Speaker 17: the snack bar now.
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  Speaker 4: It rests on 13 acres of earth over the very
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  Speaker 4: center of hell.
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  Speaker 1: The last house on the left.
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  Speaker 4: Here is the first motion picture to offer to the
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  Speaker 4: daring a look into the final maddening space between life
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  Speaker 4: and death.
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  Speaker 6: The last house on the left.
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  Speaker 4: Caution. To avoid fainting, keep repeating.
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  Speaker 6: It's only a movie.
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  Speaker 14: Only a movie.
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  Speaker 6: Only a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Sights and sounds far beyond anything you've tested. The Last
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  Speaker 4: House on the left. Offered by Sean Cunningham Films Limited
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  Speaker 4: in color.
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  Speaker 6: Caution.
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  Speaker 4: To avoid fainting, keep repeating.
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  Speaker 6: It's only a movie. Only a movie. Only a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Take as much as you can.
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  Speaker 6: Only a movie. Well, I love the movies.
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  Speaker 18: Welcome to the biggest movie event of the year we're
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  Speaker 18: going to have a great night ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 5: And the Oscar goes to Nick Ledger.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much ladies and.
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  Speaker 14: Gentlemen prepare yourselves that's.
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  Speaker 19: What I'm saying but half the time there's only three
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  Speaker 19: of us that show up for this so it's just me.
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  Speaker 6: So anyway I'm going to have hot dog and watch
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  Speaker 6: this show Hey, look at that.
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  Speaker 1: She's got a fancy dress on.
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  Speaker 6: That would be fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Coming to you soon.
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  Speaker 9: Brian by himself eating hot dogs.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: The 2012 Oscar party.
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  Speaker 18: From his basement.
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  Speaker 14: With all the blitz, glamour, pork products, and vicious commentary
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  Speaker 14: you've come to know and love.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, I like bologna.
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  Speaker 6: So I took some bologna and I wrapped it around
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  Speaker 6: a hot dog. Rupert Popkin.
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  Speaker 10: Mom!
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  Speaker 6: I'm having a show down here.
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  Speaker 1: Keep it down. I'm trying to tell all the people
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  Speaker 1: about this fancy dress she's wearing.
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  Speaker 14: Coming soon to this feed.
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  Speaker 1: The fourth annual Oscar meltdown.
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  Speaker 14: The Academy Awards will never be the same.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, shit the bed! Why, howdy, folks! Come on in!
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  Speaker 4: Well, from the wicks of them fancy britches and sassy
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  Speaker 4: little hairdos, y'all ain't from around here, are ya?
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  Speaker 6: This is Sid Hagan.
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  Speaker 1: You're fucking around with Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 16: Why don't you just take your mama home some chicken,
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  Speaker 16: and then I won't have to stuff my boot all
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  Speaker 16: up in your ass.
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  Speaker 19: All right, we are back with The Grind. Hopefully you
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  Speaker 19: were listening last episode when we started this topic. Again,
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  Speaker 19: we are discussing traumatic movies, or movies that scarred me
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  Speaker 19: for life. We now continue with our traumatic discussion.
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  Speaker 13: You mentioned that lack of an answer. That's going back
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  Speaker 13: to the remake discussion.
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  Speaker 6: It's very indicative. Whenever a movie is made in the U.S.
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  Speaker 13: That's a remake of something that was made elsewhere with
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  Speaker 13: an ambiguous ending. Usually they're given very clear-cut endings in
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  Speaker 13: the U.S., The color that comes to mind would be
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  Speaker 13: like the vanishing. At the end of the movie, he's
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  Speaker 13: stuck in the coffin. In the US version, he gets out.
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  Speaker 13: The other one is the dinner game versus Dinner for Schmucks.
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  Speaker 13: In the original dinner game, they never go to the
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  Speaker 13: dinner party in Dinner for Schmucks.
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  Speaker 5: It's like the highlight.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch it?
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  Speaker 5: That's one of the things when they ruin something that
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  Speaker 5: they manufacture motive. And even if they're telling, to me,
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  Speaker 5: that The Facebook movie drove me crazy because I don't
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  Speaker 5: care about the real people or anything, but it is
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  Speaker 5: a real thing that there are real people and everybody
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  Speaker 5: knows it, so it's what they call a Romana cleft.
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  Speaker 5: And it's still happening and already known we have to have.
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  Speaker 1: A bullshit version of it.
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  Speaker 5: Can we please have a bullshit version of real events.
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  Speaker 1: Before they're even finished happening?
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  Speaker 5: And most of what it does is it manufactures motive.
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  Speaker 5: Like he had to have a reason to... People don't
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: have reasons. They do stuff. They try to figure out
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: what their motives are. But in this, it's like he's Scarface.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: First you get the little ads for a smaller tummy
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: then you get then you get the women I don't
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: know apparently it was all about some romance I'm traumatized
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: by that movie it just pisses me off so much I.
• 18:53
  Speaker 11: Think movies should end with sad endings more often just
• 18:57
  Speaker 11: because it's like I mean every happy, sappy, cute movie
• 19:02
  Speaker 11: needs an ending where you pound your fist on the
• 19:04
  Speaker 11: table and you're like, what the fuck?
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: At least they should give you the option and the
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: special feature.
• 19:11
  Speaker 20: It's not like the 70s where there was this tacked
• 19:14
  Speaker 20: on unhappy ending where it was just like, Everything seems
• 19:16
  Speaker 20: like it's okay, but then the hero gets hit by
• 19:18
  Speaker 20: a car.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: You know, like.
• 19:21
  Speaker 11: In 500 Days of Summer where he's in love with
• 19:23
  Speaker 11: this girl and then you're like, oh, oh, oh, they're
• 19:25
  Speaker 11: going to get back together and then she gets married.
• 19:27
  Speaker 11: But then at the end he meets a new girl.
• 19:29
  Speaker 11: It should not have ended that way. It should have
• 19:31
  Speaker 11: ended miserably.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: But it is actually depressing because he didn't learn anything.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: That relationship's doomed to fail as well. So the first
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: time I watched it, I was like, that's a bullshit ending.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: When I watched it again, I was like, oh.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: No, it's fun because it's depressing.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: You met a girl, oh, you met a girl.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: I don't know what you're saying, though, that sense of
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: vindication that America... need. Like with The Departed, you watch.
• 19:52
  Speaker 13: Infernal Affairs and the police mole, basically, he just goes
• 19:55
  Speaker 13: back to his job. As opposed to in this one,
• 19:58
  Speaker 13: it's like, no, they created that Marky Mark character just
• 20:00
  Speaker 13: so he could kill him at the end of the movie.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: And everyone's like, good, the bad guy got it in
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: the end. Yeah, that's so frustrating.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: So you want more true grit, I guess.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I guess it's not.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Everything horrible. We want more unhappiness.
• 20:15
  Speaker 14: Right, right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: That's why Empire Strikes Back is the greatest movie ever.
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: It's true.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Bad guys win. And it's just depressing.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: It's pretty depressing.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Especially for little kids watching.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: Well, you know.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: This is the end of the movie?
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: We did just.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Because my kids are on these.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: They have.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: My old toys. They're playing the Lego Star Wars game.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And we did just watch... The Revenge of the Sith.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And they were just like, mouths open at the end
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: of it. They're like, everything.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: So was I, actually.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Everything is, everything's gone. You know, and I, I believe
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that it's still a pretty good, of the three. It's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the most watchable. It's the most watchable. And it's, it's,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: because even Jedi, if you watch it with fresh eyes,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: it's kind of, it's kind of, you're like, really puppet,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you know, these puppet, you know, Ewoks and it's just.
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: The first half is okay. Like, I like the whole
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: Jabba scene. I like the escape from the palace and
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: all of that. And then it hits that little he
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: goes back to see Yoda and everything from there is downhill.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And you're really going to end the series like this?
• 21:21
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: You know, that they're going to fall into the same
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: traps as they did with the other Death Star.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry if that I'm going on Star Wars.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But I always had that problem. Almost traumatized, not by
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the part that I thought with Darth Vader dying... You know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: or not dying, but... Anakin dies.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: Anakin dying the.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Way that he does.
• 21:40
  Speaker 13: I mean, Return of the Jedi does have a very
• 21:42
  Speaker 13: bleak ending that's really underspoken. Because, I mean, think about
• 21:44
  Speaker 13: all the debris from the Death Star once that starts
• 21:46
  Speaker 13: getting into it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Taking out Ewoks left and right.
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: I mean, I guess I should clarify my point and
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: say that not all movies should end with a sad ending.
• 21:57
  Speaker 21: But I just see in Hollywood it's.
• 22:00
  Speaker 11: So common that a movie will end With a happy
• 22:03
  Speaker 11: ending just for the sake of a happy ending.
• 22:05
  Speaker 21: That's not how life is.
• 22:07
  Speaker 11: I think it should be more close to how things
• 22:12
  Speaker 11: actually are.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: That just goes back to what's the reason for you
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: even going to a movie to begin with? Do you
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: want to escape brutality?
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: No.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: That's too extensive.
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: Do you want to enjoy that part of it or
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: do you want to enjoy the, you know, the performance
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: or yeah, do you just want a happy story to
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: distract you from your own bullshit life?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: She just wants to see that other people are more miserable.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: That's what I go looking for.
• 22:34
  Speaker 12: That's what I love.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Did you see closer?
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, gosh.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: That was a little bit emotionally traumatizing for me the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: first time. It was just really, really depressing and, um,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: so it's real life.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: People are in a relationship, they get horny, they fuck
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: other people and.
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: Then, um, that screws up your whole life.
• 22:53
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: I had a bad day. I'm going to go home
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: and watch Elephant Man. I felt better.
• 22:59
  Speaker 12: Somebody had it worse than me.
• 23:00
  Speaker 21: I mean, you know, I don't know.
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: I don't even know why I'm suggesting that because I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 11: the one, of all movies that make me really sad,
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: I'll go home and like, there'll be nothing on Netflix
• 23:11
  Speaker 11: because I hate to say it since they've changed the
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: pricing thing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 21: The selection of Netflix has gone way down.
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: But I'll end up watching some stupid, like, Popular on Netflix.
• 23:23
  Speaker 21: Romantic comedy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: I hate romantic comedies, but sometimes, for some reason, I
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: think it's a good idea. And I ended up bawling
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: my eyes out for some unexplained reason.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, we know why. I can't believe Natalie Portman's in this.
• 23:38
  Speaker 15: Yes, I've watched the fucking Natalie Portman.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: What's your movie?
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Why did I do that to myself?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I know she's smarter than this.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: I felt empty inside afterwards.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm learning more and more that she might
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: be empty.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: And there are times where I'm like.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: what's this choice that she's making?
• 24:01
  Speaker 21: She just melts to feed.
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: But you would have felt better if it had ended
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: badly or an unhappy ending.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Ashton Kutcher was dead at the end.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Wait, that would have been an unhappy ending?
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, it would have made me feel better.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I didn't mind him too much. I just, what is
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: going on with her? I just don't understand her. In
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: the movie, she's like this person who's sexually open, but
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: emotionally unavailable.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: You're admitting you've seen No Strings Attached.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it. But she seems the opposite.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: She's not believably sexual at all.
• 24:32
  Speaker 20: Well, she produced it, right? I think that was her
• 24:33
  Speaker 20: trying to be like, no, I can be this sexy girl,
• 24:36
  Speaker 20: and it just didn't work out.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Well, she's very attractive, but she's not credible as somebody.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: It's just weird.
• 24:44
  Speaker 21: It was, like, such an unbelievably horrible movie.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 21: I want that hour and a half of my life back.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was pretty bad.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: The only thing that I've ever seen Ashton Kutcher in
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: that I kind of enjoyed was the butterfly effect. That's...
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I kind of... No, see, I liked a lot of
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: what was going on there. I like to say it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: stupid fun.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 21: It wasn't, like, the profound movie.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to be a lot more profound. You're right.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: But I.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: It was one of those, oh, this is on. Oh,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make fun of this. And then I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm kind of enjoying it. Again, I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: like the plot more. I don't know that he brought
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: anything to it. But I like some of the plot
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: elements going on.
• 25:21
  Speaker 22: The thing that pisses me off about The Butterfly Fish
• 25:25
  Speaker 22: is when I watch movies, the only thing that really,
• 25:28
  Speaker 22: really bothers me is little kids or babies in trauma.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I have a two-year-old. But I'll watch it. I'm okay
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: with it if it's done artistically or for a purpose.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: So when they had the scene with the mailbox blowing
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: up and the little baby's arm reaching for the mailbox,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: that wasn't for any purpose.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Other than to push buttons.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they shouldn't have done that because I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: don't care that much, but it just seemed exploitative.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: When it didn't need to be.
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: Can I suggest it's alive?
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: I know I saw that and hated it, but I
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: can't remember anything about it. I just remember seeing it
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: and thinking, no, I didn't like that movie. That's all
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: I remember. I was in high school.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I think the idea that Ashton Kutcher's brain was rotting
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: is maybe what made you feel... I don't mind.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I thought he was brilliant as Kelso.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Again, his TV.
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: Career is different.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: The first half of Dude, Where's My Car? is pretty funny.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: I could have bought him in that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: No-strings-attached thing. That seems like about his size, in a way.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: You know, sort of an amiable guy in a romantic comedy.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I just couldn't believe her, and I really wanted that
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: girl Greta to take her part.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: The girl from Greenberg.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: She's just charming. I could believe her, but Natalie Portman,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: it's almost like she's.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: She's got some sort of hidden issue.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: She's the female equivalent of Samuel L. Jackson. She's in everything.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Or Michael Fassbender.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, I thought she was great in Black Swan.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: It's nothing against her. But she seemed like sort of
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: believably weird and sort of messed up. And I wasn't
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: looking for that in a romantic comedy.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I think she is.
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: She's a showbiz kid, much like the character in Black Swan. So,
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: She grew up probably equally as messed up. So I
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: think we're kind of seeing a little of her in
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: that movie than we need to.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Probably more than she wants people to see. I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Lucas sucked the life out of her. Yeah, that's probably true, too.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: She was getting closer.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: That was close to Lucas, too.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I think it was mid-Lucas, actually.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 11: Like at the ending scene where she just lost the
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: will to live.
• 27:55
  Speaker 21: She just lost the will to be alive inside.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids were, if they could vocalize it that way,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: they were like, what the fuck? Why is she dying?
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: This makes no sense.
• 28:05
  Speaker 12: She was so sad.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: She was so sad.
• 28:07
  Speaker 21: You don't just die because you feel like it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And we can't explain it. You know why? Because Lucas
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: can't explain it. Because Lucas' kid didn't tell him what
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to do in that part of the script. He just
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: gave up. He gave up.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: We've got to show the Death Star. I saw Dogtooth.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Ha, that was my suggestion for this trauma movie. I
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: think I brought it up.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: That movie is so amazing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: It didn't traumatize me. No, but it's about trauma, isn't it?
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: It was very interesting. It kind of reminds me of
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: a Lanford Wilson play called Home Free. It's this couple,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: she's pregnant, and she goes out and works in and
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: he's agoraphobic. Is that the phobia?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Agoraphobic, yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Agoraphobic, because my sister-in-law always says, oh, he doesn't like
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: to go out anywhere. I think he's homophobic.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: Well, um... But I think it's agoraphobic.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: But, yeah, he can't go out, and they have these
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: two imaginary kids, Clay Pone and Edna, and.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: It's kind of like that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: You know, they're... pretty much in their own reality uh
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: cut off from the world but it reminded me of
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: that and did somebody did you tell me it was
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: a documentary or i never told you it was a
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: document somebody i went started into this movie having the
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: idea it was a documentary i told you very little
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: about it yeah i heard something or i got it
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: mixed up with a different movie and so that was
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: a fun experience, like starting to watch it and think,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: is this a documentary? How could this? No.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: This can't be a documentary.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: This can't be.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Well, it got to the point where the son is
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: having sex. It's like, what's going on in a documentary
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: where you're watching people have sex?
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: What kind of.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: Fucking sex are these people having?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: What is going on in this movie? That's the least
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: dramatic part of the movie, too, is the, I think
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: just the subtle thought.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: The sex thing is weird.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's weird, the situation, but I think, yeah, it's, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I was, you even posted it, the dance scene is
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: so unsettling, you know.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: That's great.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Where is she getting this inspiration? Because she's obviously seen
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: snippets or her mother or something from Flashdance and You know.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: It's... Well, I don't mean to be Mr.
• 30:34
  Speaker 12: Shallow, but I am.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, it was a really interesting and intriguing movie,
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: and it draws you into the world, but at the
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: same time, I don't know what it has to do
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: with anything. So for me, largely, it was a drama of...
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Are those sisters hot? Because in a way they are, because,
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: you know, they're like separated from the world... So they're
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: not full of all the usual bullshit that crushes your soul,
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: all the things people say that, you know, you think somebody's, like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: interesting and charming, and then they say something just so
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: stupid and cliche and trite, and it's like, oh, God.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: They're rotting from the inside out. So in a way,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: they're attractive because they're different. But then in another way,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: it's like, but this is just too fucking creepy. This
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: is just weird. And then it gets to the point
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: where they just do not even remotely get sex. Not
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: even with a really good clue.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Not even, they don't get the hint.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: They don't, and it's like, no, this is just weird.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: It's just strange and bizarre. Yeah, because the one girl who, like,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: he brings in had, um, she starts like trading for
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: sexual faith. They still don't get it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:03
  Speaker 17: Um, yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: So, um, I'm really glad I saw it, but I'm not.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Sure what you were supposed to get out of it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Um, it seems like a really good metaphor for something,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: but I have no idea what.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I kind of got a lot of, because I grew
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: up in a very religious sheltering family. And so it's
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: sort of like, um, very exaggerated version of that yeah
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: like uh so you all talk about like watching horror
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: movies when you were little when i first saw raiders
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: of the lost ark.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: My parents made me close my eyes during the face
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: melting scene.
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: At the end that that traumatized me so it's in
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: your best interest or you see what happens.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So actually and this don't tie it in perfectly um
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: One of the first really traumatizing things I saw was
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: when I was 18 and I was out in college.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to go rebel and watch
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: one of those R-rated movies I'm not supposed to watch.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: You rebel.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: So I went to the theater and I saw the
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: remake of The Hills Have Eyes. The most violent thing
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I'd seen before that, I think, was Lord of the Rings.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: so then I and I was still religious back then
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: sort of so I went home and I confessed to
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: my religious leader who actually.
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: Happened to be my dad at the time this is
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: even more weird.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah and I it took me a long time to
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: get over that like I my wife my girlfriend at
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the time was going to watch The Descent with a
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: friend and I was invited over I was like no
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do that again because the blood
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: and gore.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: And there's plenty of it now.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Now I laugh at, like, Jigsaw and all the shenanigans.
• 33:45
  Speaker 20: I did think that one scene in the remake of
• 33:48
  Speaker 20: The Hilltop Bias was really traumatic for me, too, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 20: I was fully desensitized by the time I.
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: Saw that film.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it since then.
• 33:54
  Speaker 20: I just remember there being, like, a... rape baby, there
• 33:58
  Speaker 20: was some crazy thing that happened in the trailer.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: That's all I remember.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: That's what I like a little bit better than the original.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: I find the original racist.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: I don't remember exactly what happened, I just remember it
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: being wrong.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: The rape babies have eyes.
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: Well, that can go to mine, because mine was kind of,
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: I guess in a way there can be good traumatizing,
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: because it does sort of wake you up to horrible,
• 34:21
  Speaker 10: horrible things. I remember being kind of clueless and going
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: to see The Accused. damn I don't know that scene
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: again you get all the way to the end before
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: you really see what happens and it yeah I don't
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: think I was prepared for that and I think it
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: was one of those that you don't identify you need
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: something to make you identify with somebody to understand that
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: kind of or at least have a glimpse of that
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: kind of pain and horror and yeah it took that
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: movie before I was like oh okay we're kind of
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: all responsible for this and you know I hate my
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: gender But I don't know, there was so much I
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: took away from that that was kind of life-changing at
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: that point of not taking responsibility for that kind of
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: stuff and all of a sudden going, oh, it's kind
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: of everybody's job to make sure this doesn't happen.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: It's funny now because you watch South Park making fun
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: of it and it sort of takes the sting out
• 35:22
  Speaker 10: of it. But at the time, being relatively young and
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: watching that, yeah, I was not prepared for that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Scene. I don't know.
• 35:29
  Speaker 12: Which I had the same years later, The Last House
• 35:32
  Speaker 12: on the Left.
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: The original one, which is not a great movie, but
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: those scenes in the woods are horrifying. Those are the
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: scenes where you can see he's a good filmmaker, and
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: then the rest of it's kind.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Of slapped together. The whole setup of the dad. It's
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: not a good movie, but there are good moments in it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting because we haven't really talked much about
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: movies that are just morally traumatizing. But that's like a
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: whole category of film.
• 36:01
  Speaker 21: People under the stairs.
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: That's an awesome movie.
• 36:04
  Speaker 12: What are you talking about?
• 36:05
  Speaker 21: It is awesome, but it's traumatic.
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: They have this race of mutant people that they keep
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: locked in their house, and the dad.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Runs into them in full head-to-toe.
• 36:15
  Speaker 21: Fetish gear, and they lock their daughter in.
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: There's a fun little Twin Peaks guy in there, too.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: One that just.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Images uh just didn't even think of it the shining
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: i saw that way too young yeah and yeah the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: old traumatizing dude i think of him as one of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: my favorite directors and i'm like you know what he's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: really throwing some crazy.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Stuff yeah it's the it's the.
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: Old lady in the bathtub yeah which i'm thinking about
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: it i had that same because i that is the
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: image you came up with it's a traumatizing one i
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: had that with um the opening of carrie I did
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: not need to see naked, bloody Sissy Spacek running around.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I was just, what the hell? No, no, stop. Just
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Sissy Spacek. It's just traumatizing.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, you know that story about Blue Velvet? That's what
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: Rossellini told me, that the whole little town where they
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: were filming came out.
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: Oh, God.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: They were all out there having picnic tables and stuff.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: And she felt responsible because they were going to film
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: the scene where she's.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Like, Is that your mother?
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Who's that?
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Your mom?
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: They were going to film that scene.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: So she went around and, you know, people wanted to
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: meet her and they're saying hi. And she's like, yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I wanted to explain, you know, because there are kids there.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: In this next scene, I'm going to be nude and
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: beat up. And you might not want to.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: And they're like, oh, no, we're fine.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: And she couldn't convince anybody to leave.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: And so then she did the scene, and she said,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: you know, when she's acting, she's not, you know, she's focused,
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: and also the lights, just you can't see outside the scene.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: But as soon as the scene was over, she looked around,
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: and everybody was gone.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Well, that's got to make you feel good.
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: It's funny that she tried to shield people from trauma
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: because out of everything I've ever watched in my entire life,
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: I think the thing that's traumatized.
• 38:17
  Speaker 21: Me most is those fucking green pornos.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I knew you were going.
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: I've never been able to think about a dolphin the
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: same way. I was watching that movie like, I'm afraid
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: of bed bugs for a whole new reason. They have
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: nice penises and they stab into their mate.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: You know, I had no idea that... goose sex was
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: so rapey. That's like freakish and that really bothers me.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: And I found that out just like last month. A
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: lot of animal sex. So the goose doesn't care what's
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: good for the gander?
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: I don't think so.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: What you find out is the Lion King's lying to you.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: It's not missionary. It's not voluntary.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: You know on the Sundance Channel's website you can do
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: like a personality test and they'll tell you which bug
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: you are and then you can watch the sex video.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: That's such a creepy concept.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: But my son said after watching Blue Velvet, he said,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, that traumatized me. I'll never break into a
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: stranger's apartment to try to solve it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Didn't stop me.
• 39:30
  Speaker 13: But you mentioned Lynch and going back to what Alan
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: was saying earlier with the razor had a movie that actually, uh,
• 39:35
  Speaker 13: I remember watching it for the first time. And this
• 39:37
  Speaker 13: was when I was in my twenties, but, uh, it
• 39:39
  Speaker 13: was just so weird that afterwards I was like, uh,
• 39:43
  Speaker 13: quite a few, right. It's something called Uzumaki. It's a
• 39:45
  Speaker 13: Japanese film.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: And, um, It's like, what if David Cronenberg and David
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: Lynch had a baby?
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: This is what this movie would be, because it's about
• 39:53
  Speaker 13: this town to where everyone in this town is slowly
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: going insane because they're obsessed with the shape of the spiral.
• 40:00
  Speaker 13: And it sounds like a very absurd concept, but everyone
• 40:03
  Speaker 13: becomes obsessed about bringing out the spiral within themselves. So
• 40:07
  Speaker 13: one fellow commits suicide by putting himself into a washing machine,
• 40:11
  Speaker 13: and there are other people that are turning into half-human, half-snails.
• 40:14
  Speaker 13: And it sounds absurd, but watching it, and just the
• 40:17
  Speaker 13: atmosphere of dread they create, it's like, it just makes
• 40:21
  Speaker 13: you feel weird the first.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: Time you watch it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 13: Now it's become one of my favorites, but the first
• 40:24
  Speaker 13: time you watch it, it's just so, it's such an
• 40:26
  Speaker 13: absurd concept, and they sell.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: It to make it work. What's the name of it again?
• 40:31
  Speaker 13: Uzumaki, and this fellow, he's only made one other film,
• 40:35
  Speaker 13: which equally was kind of odd, he's just this odd
• 40:37
  Speaker 13: writer-director called Long Dream, where it's about this individual who's
• 40:41
  Speaker 13: in an insane asylum, because he's having what are called
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: long dreams to where he'll one night he goes to
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: sleep and wakes up the next day and he's lived
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: like two days because we've all had those dreams before
• 40:52
  Speaker 13: where you think you've lived a day and you wake
• 40:54
  Speaker 13: up it's like oh no it was a dream but
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: he's having it to where he'll live two weeks and
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: then wake up and those two weeks never happen and
• 41:02
  Speaker 13: then two years it's getting point to where he'll live
• 41:04
  Speaker 13: for 40 years and make all these relationships get married
• 41:07
  Speaker 13: and he'll just wake up the next day.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: And he's back four years.
• 41:10
  Speaker 13: And that just messes with you psychologically.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: And you're 401k.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: What if it keeps accumulating?
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: Now, wait a minute.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It might be on to something here. When you brought
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: up traumatizing, one thing that I thought about and The
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: fact that so many people and grandmas and mothers and
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: fathers would take their children to this and would come
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: out saying that it was beautiful, that everyone needed to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: see it, that it's so important and would return many times.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I never understood, and I went and saw it because
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: of it, but the passion of the Christ. It's like
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: people enjoyed watching their God be tortured for an hour straight,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: no words, no anything. And I worked with a little
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: old lady, Baptist woman, who just, I mean, was weeping
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: at how beautiful she thought the whole thing was. And
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: to me, it was just, and I know people have
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: written things about it, but it was just torture and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: people were enjoying it. And I know that's not the
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: part that they were enjoying about it. They were thinking, oh,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I'm finally seeing what they went through and what he
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: went through and maybe making it more real. But those
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: same people will then blast other films for, they say, oh,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: it's exploitive or it's, no, they're showing what another movie
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: might be showing what a rape is really like or
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: might be showing, and why as a society we think
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: that you know child abuse is bad or why you
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: know trying to over shelter your children in dog tooth
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: why you know why that might be the wrong way
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to go about things and why all this you know
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: i don't know i it's funny you say that it
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: should be traumatic and it's not.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: There's a movie i love called the stone boy that
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: nobody i'm the only person in north america who's ever
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: seen it yeah But it's about, it's fairly traumatizing. It's
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: about a kid and his brother going to pick peas
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: in the morning and going through the fence with a shotgun.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: The shotgun goes off and the kid kills his older brother.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: And then he finishes picking peas and goes home and
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: has to tell his family what happened. And it's called
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: The Stone Boy because he never cries and everybody thinks
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: it's strange. Everybody's in the movie. Glenn Close is in it. Um,
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: Robert Duvall, and everybody else is in there somewhere. But
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: it's a really good movie. It's odd because it's... I
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: don't know. I just saw it, didn't expect it. It
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: looked like a bad Disney movie when it came on,
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: and it kept being good. And in the end, he
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: winds up talking to a stranger on the bus and
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: explaining things, and it's just really good. But I was
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: trying to get a friend of mine to watch this movie,
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: and the reason I bring it up is that difference
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: between what people say they can't stand to watch violence.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: She gave up on it. She says, I can't watch
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: violent stuff like that. It's like, you told me last
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: week you watched Wild at Heart. where the guy's head
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: gets shot off and goes rolling. No, but that's okay,
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: but you're not going to watch my movie because you can't.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: Watch violent stuff.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you can look at Willem Dafoe's teeth
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: in Wild and Hard and not flinch, you can watch that.
• 44:56
  Speaker 13: I think it depends on how realistic and credible it is. Because,
• 45:00
  Speaker 13: I mean, I remember a film that we, there were
• 45:04
  Speaker 13: a couple movies where I remember people walking out of
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: them and getting very upset and crying and theater but
• 45:09
  Speaker 13: one of them that sticks out was um monster's ball
• 45:12
  Speaker 13: where heath ledger commits suicide yeah it's like you know
• 45:15
  Speaker 13: i was like what's just so strange about it apparently
• 45:17
  Speaker 13: it was just the realistic nature of him just shooting
• 45:20
  Speaker 13: himself in the chest it like it was bothering a
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: lot of people where i was just it wasn't uncommon
• 45:24
  Speaker 13: about once a week to see somebody just standing out
• 45:27
  Speaker 13: just taking a breather from that film right about there.
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: You know it's really weird because one thing i've noticed
• 45:32
  Speaker 11: like You can kill a hundred people in a movie
• 45:37
  Speaker 11: and it's not that bad. But when someone kills themselves
• 45:40
  Speaker 11: in a movie, it's always really hard to take.
• 45:42
  Speaker 21: I don't know why.
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: But even in movies where it's not a big issue
• 45:47
  Speaker 11: and it's... Compared to the rest of the movie, it's
• 45:50
  Speaker 11: not any worse. But even in Freeway and the scene
• 45:53
  Speaker 11: where Brooke Shields finds out who her husband really is
• 45:56
  Speaker 11: and shoots herself, that was harder for me to watch
• 45:59
  Speaker 11: than any other scene in the movie, which was not pleasant, but.
• 46:02
  Speaker 21: There's just something really weird.
• 46:04
  Speaker 12: It's still a taboo, really.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: Have you ever seen Rules of Attraction? Where the girl
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: puts her wrists in the bathtub?
• 46:09
  Speaker 21: Oh, yes, yes, I did see that.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it has the big, overdramatic, who is it?
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: The guy who did Can't Live Without You. Yeah, he
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: was the same guy who did the, oh, the song
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Everybody's Talking. Harry Nilsson, I think, did that song.
• 46:31
  Speaker 13: Even when you're watching that scene, it's like, you're playing
• 46:33
  Speaker 13: this song, am I supposed to be finding this funny?
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: It is kind of over the top because of the soundtrack,
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: isn't it? It's almost like one of those Roy Orbison
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: songs that's so over the top. Well, I don't know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: he makes it credible, but it's just odd how big
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: it is. Yeah, I guess it does depend because, you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: I watched The Passion of the Christ, and to me
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: it's just like, okay, it's rated R for smiting. And
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: somewhere in the middle, Jesus invents the table with chairs.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: And Virgin Mary, Mother of God, says it'll never catch on.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: And what is this movie?
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know what to do with it. I know
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: it's Jesus and stuff, but it's still just like a
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: profoundly silly movie in.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: A lot of ways.
• 47:24
  Speaker 12: I think that was the working script title, Jesus and Stuff.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Jesus and Stuff, yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I actually finally saw that for the first time a
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: couple months ago. I didn't see it back then. But
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: by the end of the movie, I was cracking jokes
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: to my wife just because Mel Gibson used so much
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: slow motion.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: It just got so ridiculous.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: You almost start to want to hear the six million
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: dollar man thing.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: When he's getting nailed to the cross, you have the
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: hand and that's Mel Gibson's hand. You see the hand
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: come out and then Jesus kind of looks over with
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: a shocked expression. I just imagine him being like, Mel Gibson?
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: That too, Mel?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: At that point, I would expect him to go, I'm
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: getting too old for this shit.
• 48:09
  Speaker 11: I feel like I need to see Passion of the Christ.
• 48:14
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I haven't seen it either.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it almost felt like it was a
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: joke that they were playing on everyone. We're going to
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: get all of them to come out. We're either going
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to make them all mad. or we're going to get
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: them all to come out.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Is that what he's doing now with what's the project
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: he's doing with Showgirls guy?
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Maccabees battle or something.
• 48:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, like the Hanukkah battle.
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: He's supposedly doing the version of that.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: He's trying to make amends with Esther House.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: And again, it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Seems like, okay, they're just trying to make you see it.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: They're just trying to do something that everybody's going to go,
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: I can't look away.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: I've got to go see what happens. True, Rick.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: About morally traumatizing, actually, I was kind of surprised at
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: my reaction. I saw Hobo with a Shotgun, which I loved.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a lot of fun. And violence
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: and gore.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: Doesn't bother me at all.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I think the bad guys, the way they were doing
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: the violence, just the complete and utter sadism, just really
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: got to me. And I don't even know why, because
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: it normally shouldn't. In the Saw movies, it doesn't bother me,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: because there's a sort of twisted morality to it. There's
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: always a reason. But for this, it was just pure fun,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: and it kind of got to me.
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: But it made it better when the hobo got the
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: shotgun and started killing them all because I was cheering. Yeah.
• 49:46
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: It's funny that, like, in the remakes thing, we saw, well,
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: I had just recently seen, what's the home invasion?
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: No, funny games?
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: No.
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: Well, I, yeah.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: But that is kind of the same thing. It's like,
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: why on earth are they doing this?
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: But Straw Dogs.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: Because I remember my initial reaction the first time I
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: saw Straw Dogs with Dustin Hoffman. I was surprised at
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: myself how much I wanted to kill that rat guy.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: I just, I wanted to kill him. I wanted to
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: see somebody kill him.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: It was just... I mean, the movie is successful in
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: the fact that it infuriates you the same way it
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: does now.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: It shocked me how much it got to me.
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: And Peter Vaughn is such a terrifying villain in that, too.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I saw the new one, and it's like,
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: I don't care what happens to any of these people.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: It just doesn't matter to me.
• 50:45
  Speaker 13: To me, Michael Mastin was the main protagonist in the remake.
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: Was that who they cast?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: James Marston.
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: James Marston.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't Michael Mastin.
• 50:54
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not Michael Mastin. But no, James Marston is
• 50:58
  Speaker 13: the main protagonist.
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: The thing about Dustin Hoffman.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: Being the main.
• 51:03
  Speaker 13: character in Straw Dogs is you can't see that fellow
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: getting violent. James Martin, he's kind of athletic looking.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: They just put glasses on him. It's like Clark Kent.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: It's like, no.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: It's funny what bothers people because in my own kids,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: the thing that I think, well, Toy Story is kind
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: of traumatizing to kids because now With all that kids
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: have to worry about, now they can't abandon their damn toys.
• 51:32
  Speaker 20: Oh, I had that problem early on with the Velveteen Rabbit.
• 51:36
  Speaker 20: I don't know how that didn't create a.
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: Whole generation of boys.
• 51:39
  Speaker 13: With me, it was Jim Henson's Christmas toy, because it's
• 51:42
  Speaker 13: about the same premise as Toy Story, but if you
• 51:45
  Speaker 13: happen to walk in and see the toy doing something.
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: It kills it. And it's like it's dead forever. Yeah.
• 51:52
  Speaker 23: I just heard a whole group of adults sitting there like,
• 51:58
  Speaker 23: And for one of the movies that year was treated
• 52:01
  Speaker 23: as one of the best movies of.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: The year, but all of them were like, no, I
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: didn't like Toy Story 3. It's just too sad. And
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: it's like, these were kids. These were all grown-ups. The
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: incinerator scene. Yeah. Everybody's just.
• 52:16
  Speaker 24: I know, and I don't know if I've ever been
• 52:18
  Speaker 24: on edge in a for a cartoon ever and I
• 52:22
  Speaker 24: was like okay what's happening what's happening my kids are
• 52:25
  Speaker 24: on either side I think I was holding them.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Back like this is not going to happen.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: Is it actually up traumatized oh yeah I think a
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: lot of people like.
• 52:33
  Speaker 11: A baby the opening scene and several parts the opening
• 52:37
  Speaker 11: by the end it was kind of ridiculous the opening
• 52:39
  Speaker 11: five minutes.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful I love my.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Wife so it's like oh we love each other.
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: The one that messed up my daughter was Monsters Inc
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: and it wasn't because She wasn't scared of the monsters.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: She was scared they were going to get in trouble
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: at work.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Like they were going to get fired.
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: That's so cute.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: They're supposed to be on the clock.
• 53:07
  Speaker 12: We're breeding such a messed up generation of kids.
• 53:10
  Speaker 13: But all three Toy Story movies, when you look at them,
• 53:13
  Speaker 13: basically it's the toys coming to the realization as to
• 53:17
  Speaker 13: how unimportant. in the sense that there's many more like us,
• 53:21
  Speaker 13: and after a given time, we're given away, as opposed to.
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: The very first one, where it's this nice little world
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: that they exist in by the end. It's like they're
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: just being handed off. It's very bleak for all three
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: films when you look at them, the story arc.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Traumatizing.
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: There's a book called Winky, which is about a teddy
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: bear who, after he has... the little kids grow up
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: and it's just sitting on the shelf and it wills
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: itself to life. Um, goes out into the woods, has
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: a baby. For the little girl as a girl bear
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: for the little boy as a boy that like goes
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: into a cabin and then the FBI comes in and
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: arrests it as a suspect, suspected terrorist.
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: What?
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: This is the Ted Kaczynski story.
• 54:08
  Speaker 11: Uh, and, uh, When I was in second grade, my
• 54:15
  Speaker 11: teacher read us Where the Red Fern Grows. And afterwards,
• 54:21
  Speaker 11: we watched the movie as like a special treat.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Here's a treat.
• 54:25
  Speaker 11: This book didn't make you all cry hard enough. The
• 54:29
  Speaker 11: part that really bothered me, aside from the part where
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: the dogs are eviscerated by like a mountain cougar of
• 54:35
  Speaker 11: some sort, is the part, I think there's a part
• 54:37
  Speaker 11: in the movie where some boy trips and falls on
• 54:42
  Speaker 11: an axe.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Remember that book, yeah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: I think in the book, didn't he swing and miss
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: the tree.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: And hit him?
• 54:50
  Speaker 21: Yeah, something like that. It's like an evisceration fest.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Next week, kids, Old Yeller.
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: There are a lot of traumatizing kids' movies. I mean,
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: never-ending story. I was utterly terrified of the wolf character.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: He's awesome.
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: Again, it's one of those, it's traumatizing and yet almost
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: immediately I was just like, that's my favorite character in
• 55:10
  Speaker 10: the movie.
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: My wife Lynn had this experience in kindergarten where, you know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: how they get eggs in an incubator and they hatch
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: baby chicks. Her teacher did that, but she got unfertilized eggs.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: And so they were just watching it, watching it. It
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: was like a kindergarten version of Waiting for Godot.
• 55:32
  Speaker 10: Laughter And then at the end, they just dyed them
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: and ate them, right?
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: And then at some point, she's like, this isn't going
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: to happen.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Kids, we've thought about a family, but it's just not
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the right time right now. She just goes out and
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: buys little chickens and throws them in there at night.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the heck?
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: Just peeps.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Hey, look what happened. I mean, that's very scientific. Unfertilized
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: eggs don't hatch.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: I guess they learned a valuable lesson.
• 56:02
  Speaker 11: Like a community college for your children.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: At least she's not a nurse. She's not a farm girl.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: What do you want?
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: I recently re-watched All Dogs Go to Heaven, which I
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen since I was a kid. I totally did
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: not get that not only is there a sequence where
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: he's in hell, but then later at the end the devil.
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: Dog comes for his soul. It's really eerie.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of fucked up stuff in Don Luth.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Secret of NIMH is pretty heavy.
• 56:33
  Speaker 13: I was thinking that earlier when you mentioned Watership Down.
• 56:38
  Speaker 21: Secret of NIMH.
• 56:39
  Speaker 11: NIMH itself stands for National Institute of Mental Health.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: That doesn't belong in a children's movie.
• 56:46
  Speaker 12: I'm sure that's what they were thinking.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Actually, about Secret of NIMH, because I watched it recently
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: and I hadn't seen it.
• 56:52
  Speaker 14: As a kid.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: And I determined that at the end, you know, like
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the little kids are trapped in the brick house and
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: it's going down into the mud and eventually gets pulled
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: back up. In the time period that it was there, the.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Kids would have died.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: And so I determined that everything after that was the
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: mother's mind had broken and everything after that was just
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: happening in her imagination. It's the only rational explanation for
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the ending at all.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: It's his life. It's just like the Sucker Punch version.
• 57:22
  Speaker 13: I just find it traumatizing that Christopher Plummer's career dropped
• 57:25
  Speaker 13: so low that he had to voice a character in Rock-A-Doodle.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: I was actually.
• 57:29
  Speaker 21: Thinking about Rock-A-Doodle the other day.
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: You're probably the only person.
• 57:35
  Speaker 21: I don't know why I was thinking about it.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: There was a light-up map of North America and one
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: light going off. This is the person who's thinking about
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: that at this moment.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: This is not a drill. This is not a drill.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: They put it on Blu-ray.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: It's at Walmart tomorrow.
• 57:51
  Speaker 21: No, it was actually on Netflix a few months ago.
• 57:53
  Speaker 21: I started to watch it, but I fell asleep instantly.
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: Traumatized. I think kids' movies are meant to really destroy
• 58:01
  Speaker 11: your soul.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: You know what is far more, I don't think I
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: ever saw it as a kid, but Pinocchio, when they.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: The Nokia is very disturbing.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: They're giving them alcohol and cigarettes.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: They start turning into donkeys.
• 58:16
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: That part's creepy. It's really messed up. And then in Dumbo,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: when you have the drunk scene, but it's actually hallucinations,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: so you're wondering what he actually drank, that's pretty messed up.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: And it's almost in there like, why did they put
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: this in the movie? And it's almost just a time filler.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: You know, we need another song. It's like.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: The section of Fantasia, like it's just something they were
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: working on anyway, and they decided to stick it in there.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: But almost every single one of them, you're like, somebody
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: had to be on drugs when they were thinking of
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the ideas of this, or else there's almost no reason
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, I don't know about traumatizing, but just.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: Well, it was weird how the grown-ups were bullying toward
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: Dumbo in that movie.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was really....
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: You know, as a kid growing up, I saw grown-ups
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: do stuff like that.
• 59:08
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: We had some ignoramus P.E. teacher who would, like, pick
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: on the kids, the popular kids picked on.
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: I always remember thinking, if I run.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: Into this guy when I'm growing up, there's going to
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: be a problem.
• 59:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I think you have to be a real jackass to
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: decide to be a P.E.
• 59:28
  Speaker 17: Teacher.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: In that case, yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: But there was also a great kids' movie called Thomasina.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: It's about a.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: Cat that goes to cat heaven.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: I think it's called The Three Lives of Thomasina.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: Thomasina the Cat. And it's really intense because the dad
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: in it is a doctor, and then there's this holistic
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: medicine woman that lives in the glen it's like this
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: science and fate conflict and it's it's just like a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: little kids movie about a fucking cat it's like why
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: do you have to get into all of this but
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: they do you know because the writers they're aiming to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: do something else really most the the writers who are
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: working on this stuff and so they'll they'll write in
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: things like that episode of Columbo that was just socialist propaganda.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: It was really nicely put together, too.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 13: You mentioned that, and all of a sudden it just
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 13: brought to mind, I kind of remember, this even creeped
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 13: me out as a kid so much.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: It was The Nine Lives of Garfield. Have you ever
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: saw that or not?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 13: And it's basically this series of short vignettes where it's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 13: Garfield in different characters, and just, of course, at the.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: End of each one he dies and he comes back
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: as a different character.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 13: Garfield there was one it was like number five or
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 13: number six to where he didn't it was a different
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 13: art style and he looked completely different too he was
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 13: almost like a black cat and it was a very
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 13: short segment to where he sees like some sort of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 13: thing coming out of the spot on the wall and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 13: he just lives in this old broken down house with
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 13: this old woman kind of chases around for a bit,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 13: and when it finally, like, catches up with him, it
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 13: possesses him, and it ends with him, with the woman saying, oh,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 13: come on in here, and he's, like, coming up, like,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 13: jumping at her, and just cuts her.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: It's like, oh, Jesus.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: It's like some movie where Garfield kills an old woman.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: But does Lou Rawls do the soundtrack? Because that's all
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: that's really important.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 11: What is the movie about the troll.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 21: That sneaks in at night and steals the children's breath?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: The cat does that. But it's not the cat.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 21: It's like a troll.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: But isn't it Cat's Eye?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 20: Maybe.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 17: I don't know.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: I think it's some Stephen King movie.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Cat's Eye.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: A lot of people remember that 70s movie where the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: little African figure was denied.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that one traumatized Jay. I think a lot of
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: little kids were traumatized by that.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Well, we should probably round it out.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 10: Do we have any last-minute ones that we had on
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: your list that traumatized you for life?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Can we?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 12: Lynch is fucked up.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Kubrick is fucked up. Kids movies are fucked up. I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: think that's the three.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 21: That's pretty much all of us.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: Pretty much. Basically, what we also established is Lynch needs
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: to make a kids movie.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Actually, I think he was working on one briefly.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's been abandoned because he went back into
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: his furniture making and he just released a music album.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything about that, but I'm pretty sure
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: he's working on a kid's movie.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: He'll just have to get by with Straight Story, I guess.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: It's the closest thing he has.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 9: It's PG, at least.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 21: That sounds so frightening.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's actually rated G.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: Is it?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, actually.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: Damn.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: What is it?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: Straight Story. Straight Story, yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 13: The only creepy about that is Richard Barnsworth didn't win
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 13: the Oscar and committed suicide a.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: Couple months later.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 12: And nothing's creepier than suicide.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: As we've established.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 21: I mean, I don't know why. I can't explain it.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: I mean, it doesn't really bother me, but in movies
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 11: it's just really hard to watch.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: Like in Caché. Oh, yeah. Just came out of nowhere.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: There's We have a lot to work out.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: We have a lot of issues.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 20: It occurred to me, I know we're trying to wrap up,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 20: but I just had a moment where I kind of
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 20: realized something during the course of this conversation. And you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 20: were talking about the accused in South Park. I realized,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 20: and we were talking about Clockwork Orange, and I kind
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 20: of realized that one of the things that does traumatize
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 20: me more than other elements is that I guess for
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 20: a long time I really couldn't deal with horror played
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 20: as satire. I had a really hard time tonally with that.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 20: Man Bites Dog. I couldn't deal with that. I couldn't
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 20: deal with Martin. That movie kills me.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: That movie's so creepy.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: It's very creepy, I'll give you that.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 20: The violence against women in that and the tone of it,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 20: it's so unsettling to me.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: That one I felt like works because it's supposed to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 10: be that distilled. Again, I guess it forces you to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 10: look at it from this messed up kid and But yeah,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 10: it is really disturbing the way he interacts with them.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 20: And even American Psycho, like any sort of movie where
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 20: it's satirically played violence, especially against women, I think that's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 20: the most traumatic thing for me.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: I just realized that during the course of this conversation.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 12: It's disturbing.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of disturbing movies.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's also, it's almost more disturbing to me.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: I guess I go and, like, I have a safety
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: release valve where I go, I'm just so aware I'm
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: watching a movie.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: You know, but when people are trying to milk things
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: for significance and they're trying to be really self-important about it,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: it almost bothers me more that they're exploiting terrible things
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: as though it makes them artistically significant. It seems sort
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: of dishonest in a way.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: That was one of my main problems with Funny Games.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I know he was trying to prove a point, but
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I thought it was.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't here for that episode. I'm
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: going to leave it alone.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: There was something that was just not right about that
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: to me.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: He was definitely in that, I thought, talking down to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: every viewer. Yeah. I know more than you, and you
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: have a lesson to learn.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: Oh, God. Speaking of trauma... For me, Platoon was a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: traumatic movie.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, some people talk about The Dirty Dozen
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: as one of those movies you see maybe when you're
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: a kid, and you're so rooting for that one guy
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: to make it, and he doesn't make it, and it
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: just changes you. But Platoon, you know, they have this...
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: What traumatized me about it is I just hated it
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: so much.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I hated the dialogue.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: I couldn't believe.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: And then it won Best Picture, and then I'm like,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Fuck it. Just fuck it. You know, there's nothing I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: can do about it because I'm still going to watch
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: the Oscars. I can't say I'm never going to watch
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: the Oscars. Yeah, I will, but I'm pissed. So what
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: I did was like, I'm never going to pay to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: see another Oliver Stone movie. If it comes on TV
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: or something, okay, I might watch it. But no, I'm
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: not going to pay for it. I just hated it.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: Just the dialogue.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: The guy's talking.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: It pisses me off how bad it is.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: I've not seen it before.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: But actually, that's another movie, like Natural Born Killers.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 20: A lot of the violence in that, which must be
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 20: played for comedy, is really unsettling to me.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: That one drives me.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: And also, just the whole idea of Oliver Stone is
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: commenting on the media in that movie. He has some
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: fucking authority there. And, you know, also it was a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: rip-off of Man Bites Dog, which I thought was a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: more serious... I mean, it is played to be funny,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: but it's... I don't know. It's just artistically different. It
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: seems to me like Oliver Stone is exploiting the violence
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: for entertainment effect at the same time he's claiming to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: be commenting on it.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 10: I think the existence of it in general at that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 10: point in time is kind of a comment on society.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: The fact that it came into being and the fact
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 10: that everybody was fine with what he was doing or
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: just went to the movies and saw it.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't really a big deal at the time.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 10: I think that kind of shows you the state we
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 10: were in as a, as a country, you know, you
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: couldn't have made that movie years before, but we just
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 10: kind of gotten to that point.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: We were sort of desensitized. Yeah. I think again, all
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: these traumatizing.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 10: Movies have done this over the years and, It seems
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 10: to me, especially the kid movies we mentioned, it's almost
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 10: breaking you as you go along.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: You start out.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 10: As a kid, and you've got your hopes and dreams,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 10: and then these movies come along and crush them, and
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 10: eventually you're prepared.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: For Oliver Stone movies. It seems like how this works.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 12: I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I think that's how we round it out.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: Hello.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: It's one of those sad indies we're looking for.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 11: I mean, you might as well have horribly depressing children's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 11: movies because life is horribly depressing.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 10: Let's show you right off the bat.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 21: You have to show them movies like Old Yeller.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: Old Yeller, yeah.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: I can't believe we didn't mention Old Yeller. We did briefly,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: but we didn't.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: Can you explain to me the Old Yeller dog food?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 7: Because it confounds me.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: Every time I make a burger, and I'm like, what
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: kind of marketing?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: Why do you want to associate your dog food?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: Because their dog is.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: So crazy for it. Open at the mouth. Hydrophobia.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 12: This episode is sponsored by Old Yeller.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: I think there was a certain point when advertising became counterintuitive.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: And I remember those years just seeing more and more
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: things like, it came out with tombstone pizza.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: What do you want on your tombstone? And then there
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: was just other stuff.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 13: It's like you're trying to think of the weirdest thing.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 11: It's actually a place in Louisville somewhere called the Cat
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 11: Box Deli.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, seriously?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 12: The Cat Box Deli.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 11: And their logo was like a cat with boxing gloves.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: Where I grew up in Bowling Green, there was a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: little airport in front of a tombstone business. And so
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: there's like a little mock graveyard showing off their tombstones,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: and then there's the airport. And when I lived in Murray,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: there was a place that everybody used to go eat.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: It was called Granny's Porch. And later it was sold,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: and it became a Mexican place, and the creative writing
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: class used to go meet there. And then it was
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: sold again. It became a different restaurant. But no matter
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: what restaurant it was or who owned it or ran
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: it or what the menu was, it always tasted the same.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: It's like they had a stove that only had one
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: flavor somehow. But anyway, the sign outside Granny's porch.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: Was up for at least a year, and it said,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: open-faced granny burger.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: Open-faced granny.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I'm never going.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: To recover from that.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: I remember that all these years, and I think of
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: it like when I'm driving along River Road. And the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: fish place there, Kingfish, has a sign out front, today's
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: special squad box.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: Like when you go by the Skyline Chili's and they're
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: always advertising it three-way. Yeah. That's intentional. Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're trying to, there's some counterintuitive thing,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: and it probably works because people remember it. You know,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: people are so jaded to advertising that at this point
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: they're like, What the fuck?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: I'd say something.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: I think that's what, especially like something like the old
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: Yeller thing. I think it's the same reason they keep
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 10: doing these reboots. And it's like just all we need
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 10: is brand recognition.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Doesn't have to even make sense why we're tying
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: it to this. It barely has to. As long as
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: you recognize what we're saying.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: What we need to do is as a group, we
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: need to market fuck you cereal.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: And I think people really remember that.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Actually, I was.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: I'd buy it.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: I was working on Super Cougar Cracks.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: You and many other guys.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: Serial names the other day, and that came up. Because
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: sometimes you just try to think, what's the worst thing
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: you could possibly do? Or at least every job I've
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: ever had, it became a game, like, what's the worst
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: way we could do this? You know, if you're... I
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: think it started this place we were trying to get
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: a past due invoice, and we have to write it
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: in business speak. Like, you know, pay us the money
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: you've owed us for fucking.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Months, please.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: How do you say that? Please remit. But we couldn't
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: think of it for a while.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: We were thinking, what do we say? So we thought
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: of all the things, you know, just to get your
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: brain going. What's the worst thing we can say? Please
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: cough up.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: I think that was.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: That was the choice that sort of, okay, fork over.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 12: Sure.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: But no, eventually the business language is, please remit this amount.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. Did we beat a dead horse?
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: Is that where you wanted us to end?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a good place.
• 1:13:19
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  Speaker 1: I can't be in that scenario anymore and i don't
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: know that that was almost traumatic i mean if you
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: have to physically change the channel for a a sitcom
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: something you're tapping into something.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 13: Yeah one of my friends was in the hospital and
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 13: he was on a lot of pain medicine but um
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 13: a few days later we were all talking with him
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 13: and uh he was talking about how he had explained
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 13: to the nurses and he explained to all these people,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 13: you know, apparently they had it on TV laying on
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 13: the television channel. And he was watching an episode where
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 13: Lucy was giving her kids gasoline to drink.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: And he was trying to explain.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 13: He's like, oh, this, he's like, did you all have
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 13: that on another TV? He wanted to know what was
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 13: going on because he's like, did I dream this or
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 13: was it really on it?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, you're making it up. Everyone was giving
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: it shit. And suddenly I was like, when I came
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: in and they were explaining that and they were all
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: kind of like, and I was like, Oh, that's a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: real episode.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like a.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 13: Real episode where Lucy almost gives her kids gasoline to drink.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: But it was just so funny that like he apparently
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: for days thought he was insane. I was like, I'm
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: going to mention this. No, I swear, I have to
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: kill the dude.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: I swear, Hilary.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: Duff was in this movie where she was furry.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: It's a weird Duff. Poor Hilary. I kind of like Hillary.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: She's all right.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: Her show was so much better than that weirdo that
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: came after her. Miley Cyrus came after her. And Hillary's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: show was kind of cool.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 13: Speaking of watching odd shows and being sick, I had
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 13: the flu one time.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: I was channel surfing and I watched about 10 minutes
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: of iCarly. That was pretty charming. I've watched every episode
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: of that.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 13: We exist in a society where this is entertainment to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 13: our children.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with our society? If you watch enough,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I will have to argue that it is probably one
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: of the better sitcoms on television.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: Especially for children.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Episode to episode, if you actually get it with the characters,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: it's not bad.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: I was terrified.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: It is the one that Michelle Obama just did.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: You know the one that makes me uncomfortable to watch
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: is The Last Picture Show. It's a movie that actually,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: I think I can watch anything, but The Last Picture
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: Show really kind of drives me.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 7: That's interesting.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: It's so bleak and there's the kids sweeping the street.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 7: The thing about Donovich having sex with a young girl.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: I guess.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, and she's just such an idiot, but she's
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: the only, like, thing in their world that is supposed
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: to be special, and she's just like this bitchy little idiot. Oh,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: and then, and how their friendships get so messed up,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: but there's nobody else around, so.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: They have to forgive each other.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's something about that movie that really gets to me.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: You'll have to forgive me, my paradigm is off. iCarly
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: is good only because I get to see so little
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: on television. You don't have to apologize, you love iCarly.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: You love iCarly.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: It's just like I like Hilary Duff.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: I watch the shows with my kids.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: I love Arthur. I love that fucking art bar. I
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: could watch that show.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, Arthur, yeah.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: That's a great show.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 21: That was for the nerdier kids.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 12: Was it?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 21: It was on PBS.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: It's too damn smart. I don't like that one.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: Wishbone, yeah.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: And who was the little kid who had cancer and
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: they never caught it?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Caillou.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 11: Brian, my nephew, when he was little, vehemently hated that show.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 11: And I remember once he goes, I don't have to
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 11: like Kai or nothing.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: I'm going to watch it.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: So annoying.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: His voice.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 21: Does the kid have cancer?
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: Is that what the show is about?
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: I don't think he does. I don't think he does,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: but it looks like it.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: It's bad.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: Well, and is Dora the Explorer having some sort of
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: incestuous relationship with her cousin?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: Diego? Yeah. Well, why would you think that?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: Everybody thinks that.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 18: Really?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, Diego's pretty cool. I mean, you know.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 21: He is way cooler than her.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: Her cousin? Diego's her cousin.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 13: Okay, I thought it was, no, I thought it was
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 13: her boyfriend, but I've only seen a couple episodes.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: So everybody thinks that. No, it's cousin. Yeah.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 13: I've never watched it enough to get the subtle nuances
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 13: of the character relationships.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: She introduces her because she is... I'm sure there's a.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 13: Story arc that explains what the map does, apart from
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 13: describing it.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: I can't invest myself in that.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: I can't remember Diego's older sister's name, but she introduces
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: them all as her cousin.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: Does anybody remember the cartoon Love Is?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Like the little hand.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Love.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: Is, and it's the two naked eight-year-olds who are married.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: To each other.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: As a kid, I hated that thing.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: What is that about?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 12: I don't like it at all.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's two naked eight-year-olds who are married to each other,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: and Love Is.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 21: Two naked eight-year-olds married to each other.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: It is amazing that that exists.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of drama. Well, see, that's the whole thing.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: Men are from.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 21: We.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: Mentioned a movie from the 70s being traumatic. Look, the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: 70s were traumatic.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 6: That's just all there is to it. There were such
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: good movies.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad I skidded.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: Glenn Close comes out in the 70s, so that's why
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: she's such a good actress. I mean, she's braved it all.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: She's survived it.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah, she can be a man.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 11: Whenever I mention Babar, no one ever remembers Babar.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: I remember Babar.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 12: Sure.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: I said Glenn Close, not Meryl Streep. As soon as
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: you said man, I said, what?
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 12: Meryl Streep can be a man if she wants to.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: What's the Onion story I saw today? They ruled that
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: Meryl Streep can't beat tried in court because she has
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: no peers. Oh, God.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: That's pretty good.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I hope Billy Crystal tells that one.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: I should have brought up Antichrist with the traumatic events.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 18: Oh, God.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: This just means sequel. Every time we do one of these,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: we afterwards come up with 40 other things.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: It did turn out to be a fecund sort of topic.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: I just thought of it because, you know, I finally
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: managed to traumatize my kids. Because they thought, oh, it's
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: Dwight from The Office. This will be fun. Holy fuck. Super.
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  Speaker 1: It's like more realistic of what Kick-Ass? Kick-Ass could have been.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the first half of Kick-Ass before it gets cheesy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is really what would happen if
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: you would become a superhero. Yeah, if you took it
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  Speaker 1: to the end of what probably would have happened in
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Kick-Ass for real.
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  Speaker 14: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And this is what really fucked up people would associate
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  Speaker 1: with you if you did. Pretty much.
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  Speaker 6: What's her name?
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  Speaker 14: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Ellen Page.
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  Speaker 1: She's amazing.
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  Speaker 6: She's psycho.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she was great in Super. Psycho.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Jesus Camp, I got to thinking.
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  Speaker 13: I was like, that's a traumatizing documentary.
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  Speaker 1: It's a different kind of traumatizing.
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  Speaker 13: It goes back to what you were saying, just traumatizing.
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  Speaker 13: No different fooding.
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  Speaker 6: I watched that and I was like, I don't know. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 12: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If nothing else, it's a good time to get out
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  Speaker 1: your decoder pins. Okay, kids, get out your decoder pins.
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  Speaker 10: It is time for the Movie Meltdown Secret Circle reveal
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  Speaker 10: of the next exciting feature.
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  Speaker 1: See how excited I was there? i could tell that
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  Speaker 1: tonight's message was really important.
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  Speaker 10: Next week we will be back to discuss timer it's
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  Speaker 10: it's available in many many places online or at your
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 10: local closed down video store so go get yourself a
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  Speaker 10: copy and um yeah timer and we will even have
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  Speaker 10: a one from the vault segment from the star of
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  Speaker 10: the movie miss mccarthy so.
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  Speaker 12: Anything else to round this one out.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise, that about does it.
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  Speaker 12: We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed.
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  Speaker 12: Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 9: This jungle is massive, so please don't be so passive.
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  Speaker 14: Be aggressive, impress us, and they will get the message.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, your father, he had.
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  Speaker 13: It, for us it's automatic.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's magic, it's magic.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 10: Hugs and kisses from the girls and the boys Live
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  Speaker 10: like champs, don't run them boys Stay.
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  Speaker 14: The night, you can have some grits I'll show you.
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  Speaker 7: Right, this song is the.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 9: Test That game traumatized me.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: I did not want to go into the alternate world
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: because those kid things would... Did you ever play that?
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  Speaker 6: I've not played the game.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. The movie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first game is creepy. Sorry.
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  Speaker 8: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
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  Speaker 18: Talk hard!