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The Plotties 2025 with Carla and Emily! · Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily

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Hi friends, and welcome to lose the plot with Carla and Emily.
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And yes, this is that episode. It's the 2025 Ploties, our
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extremely unofficial, deeply biased award show, where we
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decide what slapped, what surprised us, and what should be
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illegal. We've got categories like most
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pygmy female character, most toxic male character, plus some
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feral honourable mentions that we could not resist.
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How do you think we went this year, Emily?
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Honestly, I think we were slacking.
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I think not really slacking this year.
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I was going through the list and I was like, damn, we didn't try
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at all. I think it's 'cause I moved.
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We're busy. Ohh yeah.
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Obviously we haven't come to me. We have a life, we're working.
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Barely, barely sliding, barely scraping by.
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We're crawling to our jobs every day.
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I feel like 2025 is just a struggle year, but that's fine,
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we got it. Every year is a stronger year.
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It's. Every year it's OK, and every
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year we've fucking got it. I've made a list of all the
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books, so this is a warning that there may be potential spoilers
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for the following books. Lightlock by Alex Astor, The
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House Made by Freedom McFadden, Twilight by Stephanie Meyer.
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Quicksilver by Kelly Hart. Lights Out by Naveessa Allen,
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The UN Honeymooners by Christina Lauren, Five Brothers by
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Penelope Douglas. 50 Shades of Grey by EL James, Mile High by
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Liz Tom Ford, Muscles and Monsters by Ashley Bennett,
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Flock by Kate Stewart, Beautiful Ugly by Alice Feeny, Window
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Shopping by Tessa Bailey, and Shield of Sparrows by Devney
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Perry. I feel like that's all that
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slack. You run through that?
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Really. Quickly we did a.
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Lot we did do a lot, but we could also do more.
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We could always do more. We can.
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Always do more. You know what?
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But also we could do more. I'm not promising anything.
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Also, how about we set up a Patreon and then we do more?
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After that we can do. That we can do.
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That in 2020 years I'll. Take a whole afternoon off work
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you'll. Set it up.
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Please do please decide what extra content we could even
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offer on Patreon for people. I feel like OK this is going to
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be wild. We should be behind a paywall
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because of the things. We.
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Say, like Loki. Carla has to edit out a lot I.
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Feel like I don't like that's. I feel like I don't wait.
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There are things. There are things.
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But realistically, the things we say sometimes should be behind a
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paywall just in case we don't want the children listening to.
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This no just. In a probes in.
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A probes but also not my problem.
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Our first like payer of Patreon should be a millionaire man.
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Oh, and pay so much that everyone else doesn't have to
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pay. Oh, you know what?
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I mean, yes, I don't think that's going to happen, no.
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But we're dream big. I've had a look at our demo and
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it's 85% at least female, I think, not 90%, I think 1% male.
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Beautiful So. There's always a man.
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Exactly. You're welcome.
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You are welcome here. You.
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Are you are? Welcome.
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Look, I I don't know why you're here.
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Maybe you're gay. Maybe he's just got some good.
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Humour lean maybe? Yeah, maybe.
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He's a straight. It's OK, everyone's welcome to
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pay on Patreon. US haven't got it set up, us
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advertising it. I can send my big, big deals.
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Honestly though, it's 2026, everyone's paying for
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everything, OK? Nothing's for free in this
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economy. Bro we don't even have ads so
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we're doing this with the love of the game, let's be real.
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I just like yapping. Oh. 100.
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Percent. I love a good yap.
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Bro we have pretty similar award categories to last year, I'm not
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gonna lie. Honestly, they're the only ones
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that matter. Exactly.
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We've got the important ones. We also read a lot of books that
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induce rage, so good luck to us. A lovely first category couple
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that should have broken up by the end of the book.
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Five brothers, Any of them, All of them, any of them.
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The whole book separate. Because the main pairing.
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Disgusting. Christian and Macon bacon, Yes,
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so. I don't care what anyone says,
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any single brother of that book should be single and underground
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in a hole. Because when when all going.
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Through the list. Starting out strong because when
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I read the list and I was looking at five brothers, I kind
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of thought about it as Chris, Jen and Macon because they were
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the pairing. They are the pairing, but I also
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believe that any other pairing in that book should not exist.
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Facts. And what is your main reason?
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Like why do you think that one really stood out?
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I feel like let me have a think, sorry.
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Never apologize for thinking. It's really hard when I.
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Do of. It really.
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We need more of it on this point.
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I'm trying really hard. I think she was so determined to
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just be a there's nothing wrong with being a staying home wife,
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but I think when you're 2120, why are you working so hard to
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please just a man? But she also has nothing going
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for her. But she would have, because she
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could have been a neppo baby. She could have done anything and
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I feel like I feel like you need to give yourself a chance to be
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a person separate from a man. But instead she was constantly
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trying to be anyone that any one of these brothers would have
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liked. Does that make?
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100%. And then I feel like making, I
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don't think I think he was the worst, but I feel like he was a
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further part of his life than she was and he was very settled.
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So you would say like incompatible.
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They shouldn't have even been together by the end of the.
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Book I feel like they could have been compatible, but I feel like
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they were just throwing together like they had nothing and that
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was it. I feel like it would make more
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sense if they had a lot of things and they worked together
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but it was a book about her trying to become this person for
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a man. He also he was a raging
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alcoholic and she was constantly trying to feed him and baby him
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and I just feel like. Yeah, he was at least 10 years
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older, too. Yeah.
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I think. With that book, it wasn't only
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that she was just trying to make it work with any of them to
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become the swamp mummy of the house.
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Exactly. But she was just trying to
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figure out who banged her on that couch.
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Yes, and that's who she was gonna pledge her loyalty to.
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But I that's not a good choice. But I also feel.
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Like that was very underwhelming for that to be a choice.
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Mm hmm, cause why is that the reason?
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Like you had random sex with a random guy on a couch, but your
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sex scene prior to that was you pretending to be lost and get
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napped. I feel like it was very low bar.
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With. The brother, by the way.
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With the brother, yes. Which you were fully aware.
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Of also I just don't like that book because I feel like there's
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only one that drinks alcohol and she knew he smelled like alcohol
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and she was like. Creepy.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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Also kind of rapey. Dubious consent.
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Dubious. Do you?
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How? How you fit?
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What is yours? OK, so.
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This is gonna be a bit far left because like, but it makes
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sense. OK, let's talk about Cecilia
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from Flock and mother fucking Sean.
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Whatever. Fucking that, yes.
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Fuck yes, why why why? They didn't even need to be
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together. It wasn't even fake dating or
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anything. He rocked up at that weird
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university bullshit workplace fucked.
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Is that the? Is that the conspiracy theory?
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What? Weird, weird.
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Weren't even in a relationship and she was just trying to rock
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up and be cool in the weird garage, smoking weed, drinking
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alcohol, parties with all men that they were having.
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No, Hands down best answer so far.
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That book is the weirdest fucking book I've ever read in
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my life and I know people love it and.
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Hell. I don't understand.
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People are saying the next books are better and I'm like, no,
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anything would be better than that.
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No, I've read the next book. It's worse.
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But also they tried to do the love triangle with Dominic He.
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Doesn't exist in the fucking book.
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But she's not compatible with either Sean or Dominic.
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Anyway. So you can't make a triangle.
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Work if the five part. Doesn't even fit.
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I feel like it's very similar to Five Brothers, where she is
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trying to become a person based on men.
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She wants to be in the gang though.
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Yes, that's the Denim Vipers. I don't OK.
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You're not Roxanne. No.
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You don't? I don't see.
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I don't understand this book for one of many reasons.
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We're opening. It all up we're we're we're
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coming back because I spiral about this book more and more
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each day. One Sean was fucking weird.
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Yes. Every time there's like a 60.
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Year old man conspiracy theorist in a 20s body.
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Not only that, he wasn't enjoyable to be around.
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She cooked him dinner and he yelled at her or some shit, I
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can't remember. Also the other one, Dominic
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barely existed. Yeah, stop lying to me.
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He was in there for one chapter, had enough.
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That's not a triangle. And then they add another man by
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the end of it. Remember the weird hiking date
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where he smashed her apple? I was.
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That's what I'm talking about. Could you imagine?
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There is no reason to continue on even if as a friendship even
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with Co worker because you know how they were Co workers.
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Like even as that I would never see that man again outside of
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office hours. But what do you mean?
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What do you mean that you're on this hike with this man that
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done this alone? But none of them made a decision
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to date. She just started rocking up at
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the house, remember? They didn't even like, talk
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about it. I just don't get OK, wouldn't be
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me. You wouldn't catch me going
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anywhere with a man that gave serial killer on a hike.
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Yeah, Ted Bundy vibes for sure, but not even Ted Bundy because
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he doesn't even have the social game.
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I just, I don't think any of it was enjoyable.
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But, but there was no point to that pairing.
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None of them it. Shouldn't have even been a
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romance book. Even in the second.
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We're gonna read the second one this year at some point.
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I know don't. Threaten me with a bad time.
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What do you mean? We're doing it quitting.
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The podcast. I read the second boy did this
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one. So much I don't know.
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How much like this one, The first one it's not.
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That's. Me.
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The first one's not even as bad as the second one.
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The second one is worse, which is why my anger for the series
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is so. Hard, but at least if we read
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the second of haunting Adeline we'll get views.
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But no one's reading the shit. This series is everyone's
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favorite. Everyone's.
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Favorite. You're joking.
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No, I'm not You're. Pulling me leg.
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I'm not, are you? Dead ass.
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I'm dead. I'm dead ass.
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I'm not dead. You're not say Bible, say Bible.
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I'm. Preaching.
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She's preaching stop. I haven't seen that come up on
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my full U page at. All.
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People talk about it being the best book ever and I thought it
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was going to have a little bit more substance than what it is
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when we read the second book. You are going to spiral out.
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They're having a laugh. No, they're taking the absolute
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pair. It's the most.
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If. You think she was.
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You think she was a pygmy in the first book?
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No. She beats Dena Viper's pygmy
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level. She to the top, you see going to
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it. Fucking fucking.
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Cunt of a pal. Sorry, God.
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Terrified. Okay, so if that's on the
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agenda, I'm going to pull out something extremely heinous that
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you'll hate too, so. You always do.
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Virginal illiterate challenge you've heard about every.
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Single time? Not every single time.
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About 40% of the time when you pick a book, I question it,
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dude, there was that book, there was that one book you DNF D and
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I had already made it 80% through and I was.
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Like what? Sorry for you 01 dark window.
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No, I like that book. It was.
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It was the book where it was like a murder mystery and it was
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like going back and forth between the man and the.
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Why did I DNF it? I don't.
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I think you were like, it's weird from the start.
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But he's saying something's weird.
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It's bizarre. That's insane.
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I can't remember the book but it was fucking hanging out.
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Goodreads 'cause sometimes I put a DNA.
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It was a crime. It was a crime about a crime.
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Was it like 2 years ago though 'cause I?
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Feel it was this year, I feel OK in saying that time doesn't
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exist to me and Drew anything that happened in the last four
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years happened last year so. Oh 100% that's why we look so
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young. Are we not fresh?
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Baby, let's move on because I have things to bitch about of
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those exact books that we've already mentioned.
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So we may as well keep it moving because it's going to come back
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up. Favorite couple.
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So we're trying to be positive. Here do you want to go first or
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do you want maybe? You go first.
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Quicksilver. OK.
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But I see it. Kingfisher.
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But also I just like that book. I think between all of them they
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weren't the worst. But I really love Quicksilver
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but I refuse to read Brimstone the second one because I'm
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scared that it's going to ruin it.
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I could see it though, because at least there was chemistry.
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I know they weren't the best best couple I've ever read.
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Like don't get me wrong, they could be better, but in
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comparison to all of the ones we read?
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Oh, 100% yeah, out of this lineup.
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Yeah, this lineup, bare minimum bare.
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Minimum. Like not even close.
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Can't give you a reason just other than they weren't trash
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exactly. And also they have the
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potential. Yeah, you know, like it's not.
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Believable enough to be in a romanticy.
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You know what though? Because it's such a low bar and
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the bar is in hell, they actually had conversations.
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Surprise. What?
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Surprise what? How dare they exactly.
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Chemistry wise I can't like anyone named Kingfisher but.
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That's not his. Real.
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That's not his real name. Apparently it's worse.
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So we don't read a lot of fairy books.
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Why don't they always have to have like 6 names?
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They do that because there's power and knowing their real
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name. So like for something, I think
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it's Cruel Prince, if you know their real name, you have the
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power to hold over them. So you know how in the end of
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the book he's like, I know his real name, so I can kind of get
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him to do what they want. So in that they don't give out
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their real name because they can kind of like make them mm, hmm.
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But I actually kind of fuck with Kingfisher so apparently.
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I warmed up to it towards the end.
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I just apparently his name in the real name is.
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Horrible. So I'm scared.
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Do you know what it is? No, I haven't looked yet.
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I haven't been spoiled, no. OK, I've got a Joe cancer and
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then I've got my real answer. OK so my Joe cancer is Grady and
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the nun lady from beautiful ugly the.
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Nun Lady. I I was feeling it.
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They had one conversation together.
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Grady. Most chemistry I've ever seen.
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Grady and the nun lady, Yes. Yeah.
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Claps for whatever her. Name was he never pursued her
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Dumb fuck. You're the only man on this
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whole island. You're not going to tap that
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Ridiculous, ridiculous, He. Would have fucked a wall, let's
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be real. But I felt it.
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I thought that was going to be a whole different plot line and
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the tension. And then they fucking gave us
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coat and heels. How dare they throw us in there?
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Honestly. But that was my joke answer
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because I thought you'd laugh. And then my real answer is Ali
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and Josh from Lights Out, because yes, in a weird way,
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they're both dorky and stupid enough that it worked.
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Yes, yes. They're so stupid, like there's
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no way you didn't know who that man was.
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He didn't have his voice modulated yet.
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She was like giving him head in the car.
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I feel like even though he was doing creepy shit and very much
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her vibe, he was still like driving her home and feeding her
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as well. Right?
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I feel like you win with that one that I feel.
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Station where he was in her kitchen with the mask and then
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just walked out into broad daylight or some shit.
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One who hadn't revealed himself. You don't know who that man is.
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Be so for. Real be so for real.
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He's wearing a mask in your. House in the table.
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I feel like she knew from when she went to his house and she
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was just like, I'm gonna pretend I don't.
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See you and I love that for them I.
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Would do that too. Oh, it's.
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Extreme role play and that's why I think they're compatible
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because they're both committed to the bid Yes and at least you
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understood that they at least wanted to fuck.
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Like some of these don't even make sense that they.
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They want to fuck. Like at least they want to fuck.
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It's true. Look at the light up we have.
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It looks ridiculous. You're like, look at the
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statistic. No, but look at the fucking. 50
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Shades of grey fucking no way none of these people want.
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To fuck. Sorry.
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None of them. None of them.
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I'm not believing it. I'm not believing your fake
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corniness. No.
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OK, our third award Worst villain.
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Christian Grey. Oh.
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And twisty and my reason is. Because he was supposed to be a
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villain. Exactly, he is a villain because
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in my mind he just wanted a child in my mind because if
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remember you'd say weird, weird shit to wear like you need to do
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this. And it was like childlike yes.
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I can't remember exactly. Do you mean like he wanted to
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start his legacy? And no, no, no.
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I feel like he wanted and like. To be obedient as a child to
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him. I feel like he was trying to
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force her into her being childlike, like a low leader.
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Like low leader, You know what I mean?
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Like I feel like he he was trying so hard to put her in a
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box like a child. So rather than submissive, you
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think he's taking it even further to be like?
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A. Complete role play parent child.
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No, I think like he's using that as a guise for the fact that he.
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Is a predator. He is a predator, but he's not a
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predator. Does that make sense?
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Like right? Also it's he was weird.
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But amongst all the classic controlling DV as well.
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So like, not only that. The stalking, the DV, the.
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The her going out of town one day and he decides to set up a
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date with his ex who groomed him.
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Exactly. That's going out of your way.
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But when I say like trying to make her a child, I feel like
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he's trying to recreate the grooming of.
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Yeah. Him but doing it, yeah, doing it
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reverse. But also she's age appropriate
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so it's fine, but he's like trying to fit her in a box as
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like a 15 year old. Does that make sense?
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Yeah, like he's trying to replicate.
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Yeah, what happens I. Read this book when I was 18 and
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I've really fucked with it, but I think when you read this book
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at 30 and you're like, yeah. Who is even supposed to be?
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Because in that book, his. Ex.
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Is supposed to be the villain of the book.
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Yes. It's not giving villain.
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No. With she feel bad for Christian
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Grey, I don't feel bad. I don't feel bad.
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I feel bad for the grooming. I don't feel bad for him as an
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adult. That's what I mean, yeah.
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I don't feel there's no excuse for his behaviour.
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No. Also, if you're gonna have a
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movie about a billionaire, at least give us some nice clothes
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or nice architecture. What the fuck is this shit?
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But also like why you finding the me quiet virginal girl?
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You want this lifestyle find someone that fits it instead of
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forcing her to decide that's what she wants.
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I. Think that's part of the
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control. Yes.
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He's like lifting her up from this weird poverty level and
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yeah, then she owes him everything.
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Exactly. Tell me about the fucking
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helicopter ride in the dark. What the fuck was that about?
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Exactly why is it never dark? It never fucking ends.
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Oh, and then like when you go into book 2 or the movie 2,
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right? He buys the company she's
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working for. Right, OK, my worst villain is
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literally everyone in Shield of Sparrows because quite literally
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every character was the villain. Oh yeah.
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Everyone. Yeah, absolutely everybody.
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Everybody. Everybody.
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Absolutely everybody in the whole wide world.
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Like everyone. Mum, mum, dad, stepmom.
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Her chambermaids. Her fucking first husband.
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Her fucking second husband. The fucking guardian.
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The groomer. Fucking Garrett.
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The. Dad, her sister.
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The King. Fucking what's his face?
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The guardian's mom. Like everyone's the bad guy.
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Yeah. Mic drop the end.
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Just. Follow villains.
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Like just give me one. Like what?
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That's the answer I was expecting.
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I know, I think because it was fresh in my memory.
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Fuck all of you, there's too many.
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It was just confusing. Yeah, no one needs that.
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You need 1 clear villain. But I also think it it made it
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so you didn't know what was happening.
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I didn't know what was happening at.
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Any time you didn't know because the mum was not the villain, I
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would have thought she was never the clear villain.
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No. It's fucking weird.
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Which kind of made. It interesting at the same time
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because you're like who's actually out together and who's
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trustworthy at the same time. Normally there's at least a
22:55
villain that's driving the plot forward.
22:59
So anyway, that's my I mean. Technically, the real villain of
23:02
that book was driving the plot forward.
23:04
Wait, who are you? Who would you consider the real?
23:06
Villain The Mum. Yeah, but you find that out at
23:08
the end. So it's kind of like but.
23:10
She's sneakily in the background, knowing all of this
23:12
while. Everyone's struggling.
23:13
I hate that, though, because if you, if you weren't there for
23:16
all of that, what does it matter to you when you find that out at
23:18
the end? Yeah, our next category is Best
23:22
Villain. Best villain?
23:23
Nina from the Housemate? Yes.
23:26
I actually Loki love Nina. I fuck with Nina.
23:29
Are we going to go see the movie?
23:30
Yes, because I actually want to and we should probably go see it
23:33
before it's not legit because we probably have to go see it soon.
23:39
Yeah, I'm down. So why did you pick Nina?
23:42
I feel like she was so crazy, every bit of her of like what
23:47
she was doing, her end goal, the reason she went into being a
23:52
villain all made sense. So it's valid.
23:54
It's valid. So she's like a complex villain.
23:57
Fuck these villains doing OK. Hear me out.
24:00
Fuck these villains doing the like I want the world to end or
24:04
I want to control the world and no I'm here.
24:06
For a villain. That was trapped and then is
24:10
weaseling her way out of it in the in most thought out possible
24:14
way. Fuck everyone else because her
24:17
reason is the most valid reason and everything she did was
24:21
perfect. And the ironic thing is she was
24:23
one of the main female characters, yes.
24:25
So she isn't supposed to be the villain.
24:27
No, but she kinda is. If you're looking at Millie's
24:29
perspective, yes, 'cause she throws her under the bus.
24:32
Exactly. 'Cause technically the husband's
24:34
the villain, right? But yeah, fuck that man Fuck
24:37
that. Who?
24:37
Cares about the categories that we've got picked.
24:40
Let's just go against all the rules like who cares?
24:43
Everything we're picking is not even like he's.
24:46
He's just doing weird DV shit. Oh, exactly.
24:48
Exactly where is this boring? It's so much more exciting
24:52
finding out that she's not crazy.
24:54
So what I'm hearing is we should do, because apparently Never Lie
24:58
by Freda McFadden is very popular.
25:01
Yes. So maybe we should do that one
25:03
this year. Yes, and we're adding we got two
25:06
book picks. That's what I mean.
25:07
We're getting ideas. We're getting ideas, Fuck.
25:09
Andrew. Fuck that man, Fuck him.
25:12
You're. Basic face.
25:15
Whatever his name is, Hot Guardian Man, Hot Garden Man was
25:21
it was very. Obvious Enzo or something?
25:24
And yes, it was very obvious. It was very.
25:26
Yeah, fuck Andrew. No, and sorry.
25:29
Andrew is a loser. Let's be real.
25:31
A. 100% loser. You know that man doesn't wipe
25:33
his ass. What 100% doesn't wipe his ass?
25:36
Big cheese for days. Honestly, by the time we see the
25:39
movie, I've forgotten the ending.
25:42
I'll just be shocked. Anyway, okay, that's a good
25:45
choice. So I'm gonna go for best
25:46
villain. You're not going to be surprised
25:49
at all. It's so dumb.
25:52
Jade from Muscles and Monsters. Oh my God.
25:54
The ex-girlfriend that's in for one minute's time.
25:58
So she's the ex-girlfriend of Atlas who rocks up at the gym
26:01
one day and is all like, I was going to invite him to go
26:05
running, slay and then fucking. What's the face?
26:09
Tegan rocks up at the gym and it's like trying to defend him
26:14
and shit. And then she's just like, EW,
26:17
who is this literal mortal peasant that's coming up to me?
26:22
And honestly, get it girl. Because she wanted a nice big
26:25
house. Yes, Atlas didn't want it.
26:28
He wanted to live in a dilapidated rental with a
26:30
beanbag. She elevated his whole last
26:32
lifestyle. Yes, and then she got none of
26:35
the benefits, God forbid. And then he it's his choice to
26:39
stay. Down she was sucking hairy Dick.
26:44
For what for? What?
26:45
No, but it was so good because she was such a non event.
26:47
She just dipped in and then we were all supposed to just hate
26:50
her and I was like an icon, an actual character.
26:54
And then she left and it wasn't even a problem.
26:57
I'm like OK. Like that's not she.
27:00
Could have done more but still villain.
27:02
She didn't even swear to break them apart or anything.
27:05
No, she did fuck. She calls to.
27:06
Havish and like me, like just doing absolutely nothing and
27:10
then just being in everyone's mind. 24 seen.
27:13
For no fucking reason though, what I.
27:15
Mean just like. Who cares?
27:17
Who cares They're. Gonna be worried about me.
27:18
I'm not doing fuck all to you. She's like imagine been mad at
27:26
me when I just cause havoc and then she's gone home to her nice
27:29
house. Exactly.
27:30
Fluffy slippers, tea, coffee in bed like she's flipping.
27:34
Probably fucking, probably, probably fucking.
27:37
Exactly. God forbid.
27:39
As if she's not fucking. It's fine.
27:41
She was the she. Was.
27:43
She's the best one, Best villain.
27:45
Because like, who the fuck else was even the villain?
27:47
I'm just I'm scrolling back up to the books.
27:50
Atlas and. It was very hard to even
27:52
identify half of these. Villains.
27:53
The villain was the wolfman licking his fingers after
27:57
picking cake off the road. That Atlas, Yes, but I'm like
28:03
thinking about these other books.
28:05
I mean what the fuck villain where beautiful ugly.
28:09
It was the whole lesbian cold. That was weird.
28:11
That was. Just great.
28:12
He was the villain. Who cares?
28:13
Yeah, he was a villain. Duh.
28:16
Everyone was a villain. It's.
28:17
Classic. This has been a weird mix of
28:19
books. To choose from.
28:20
Oh. My God, honestly, across the
28:22
board. It was really hard to pick
28:23
anyone for any category. Hey, shit, All right, Favorite
28:29
character or you? Carry on Smith a swift
28:33
Quicksilver, the Ranger side man I love.
28:38
I know nothing about it. No, hear me out, hear me out
28:42
because I think last year my favorite character was Riddick.
28:46
I just love the. Comedic reliefs.
28:50
Yes, but it has to be a man and it has to be hot.
28:54
Hot man Funny, Not a problem. Yep.
28:59
But yeah, I feel like out of all of them.
29:01
Wow, obscure pic, yeah. So they're not a problem.
29:05
They don't do anything. I think there's a chapter where
29:08
he falls asleep and they're getting hammered by vampires.
29:11
Like I just. I.
29:14
Just think it's funny like I. Like you can relate to that.
29:16
You're like cool, cool, 'cause I woke up in chaos.
29:19
All the time. I do love a Bantry character.
29:22
Like a side character Bantry cat.
29:24
Yeah. Like they make no sense in all
29:26
the sense, you know what I mean? Like also, I love banter.
29:30
That's like Loki annoying harassment but it's funny and
29:35
not rape your or anything. Like he's just annoying for the
29:38
sake of being annoying. Nice.
29:40
It was. It was a hard line up, sorry.
29:42
That's what I mean. I was like my options were
29:45
small. Exactly.
29:46
I don't think I had another option.
29:48
So this is very much in line with your previous answer, but I
29:52
picked Nina from. House making ballad because
29:55
iconic iconic hello. Favorite character?
29:58
If it wasn't Nina, it would probably be Jade.
29:59
She was doing the work. She was doing the work she.
30:02
Cared. She.
30:04
Did enough. I'm like, I just, you gotta be
30:07
some type of woman to be able to think on the spot in high stress
30:11
all the time. He was giving what's her name
30:13
from Gorn girl. Not a clue.
30:16
You still haven't seen it? I've been telling you to go
30:18
watch the movie at least because the main character is very Nina
30:21
manipulates the whole story. So you've got to actually watch
30:24
it because you'll love the movie.
30:25
I will. So we don't need to go into Nina
30:27
too much. We've already talked about it.
30:29
She she was my favorite. She'd be icon.
30:31
What more can I say? Now I know this is your most
30:34
hated aspect of any book. Worst confession of love?
30:39
See, I can't do it to let down to a type.
30:43
OK. But it was 100% in block.
30:47
What even happened? Exactly exactly.
30:50
I know I feel like it was when he was trying to convince her to
30:53
trust him. In my mind I'm picturing the
30:56
scene where she's cooked him dinner and he's come home late
30:59
and he was trying to convince her to trust him and he was like
31:02
I just hate myself and EW. That's the only one I can think
31:07
of for this year. Yeah, I try to let not let them
31:10
stay in my mind. And it wasn't even a confession
31:13
of love, was it? It was a full manipulation.
31:15
Yeah, but I feel like he was using the roundabouts of
31:19
confessing his love to manipulate her.
31:22
Didn't he literally break up with her in that conversation?
31:25
Essentially. I don't know.
31:27
Hey. Like how do you go from breaking
31:28
up with someone to. From what I in my mind, I'm
31:31
probably really really wrong. I feel like he's like, I love
31:33
you but I just can't. Like I feel like that's what it
31:36
was. The Uno reverse anything.
31:39
In that book. Flop.
31:40
Or the second one. Any confession of love is the
31:43
worst thing I've ever read. Do people really do the Uno
31:47
reverse in real life? Do you think they ever do that?
31:49
Do you think someone ever goes I love you but I can't?
31:52
Yes, disgusting. Hate yourself for that.
31:56
Hate yourself for that, because there's no.
31:58
Way. That those words that would come
32:00
out of your fucking mouth. Put yourself in a fucking
32:03
corner. Absolutely.
32:05
Turn around, turn it around and cry.
32:08
Look. In that corner.
32:08
Like fucking Super Nanny just chucked you in there.
32:12
Think. About your.
32:13
Fucking spank your own ass. Yeah, go in the fucking self
32:18
spanking corner you absolute piece of shit.
32:23
Like what? What?
32:25
What? Like what?
32:29
Chickens. I just I.
32:32
Probably really can't love you. I love you, but I can't be in a
32:35
relationship. I then shut up.
32:38
I don't know if it did happen, but I feel like it did.
32:40
But also, if that's how you feel, keep your feelings to
32:43
yourself, don't outsource your supposed.
32:48
Any other one wasn't as notable to me.
32:50
OK, also I didn't I think I try to forget them.
32:54
Yeah, because you hate them so much.
32:55
You. Hate them every time they do it
32:58
do it do it short and do it speak.
33:01
Why are we doing a full speech 4 pages long of shit no one would
33:07
fucking say to each other? Bring it down.
33:11
Yeah, make it snappy. Or hear me out, show it in your
33:15
actions, right? I love a book when they're like,
33:18
oh, they're doing this for me. Like it's in the background and
33:21
you're like, oh, it's there. I will.
33:23
Even accept running in with a matching Christmas robe at the
33:27
end. Exactly.
33:29
I will accept that. That is.
33:30
Fine, that should have been the one for me, but that one was
33:34
fine. Exactly.
33:36
I just think any words out of any of the characters now, as in
33:40
Flock, was heinous. So that's my fair.
33:44
That's how I confounded that decision.
33:46
OK, now this one's a bit. You might have forgotten about
33:48
it as you mentioned before. OK, Ethan from the UN
33:52
Honeymooners rocking up at Olive's family restaurant in the
33:56
lime green crop top. I did.
34:00
That was made out of her bridesmaid's stress to confess
34:03
his feelings and apologise to her all in one go.
34:08
And all his family were there to witness that, Remember.
34:11
Stop. And wasn't he scooching around
34:13
on the ground or something? Oh my God.
34:15
Didn't we? Say that he was twerking on the
34:18
ground like he. Booked that that hole.
34:23
At her restaurant and he was wearing a lime green.
34:26
Cock no stop it. I that has never entered my mind
34:32
that so the podcast went in and went out.
34:36
That's a crime. That's a crime.
34:38
That's a crime. How many years, Joe?
34:41
House arrest. I, no, I the pair of anguish.
34:46
I was like, I was rattling through torture tactics then
34:52
yeah, the chair even. Like why even just organized to
34:58
have a conversation? Like why not have the whole
35:00
family there for added pressure? You know what I mean?
35:02
Like why not? I would be like, I have to say,
35:06
The thing is The thing is one thing to know about me.
35:10
If someone did that kind of pressure to me, I would say no
35:14
because they added the pressure. I could really, really want that
35:17
engagement, but you've now added fifty other people's feelings to
35:20
it. Fuck you and.
35:21
They're all families, not randoms.
35:22
In a restaurant, it's different. Like, you know what I mean?
35:26
I don't know what I'd do. I feel like, wasn't this a fine
35:28
man? Wasn't he attractive?
35:30
Yeah, I'd also. Just in public and then be like
35:33
what the fuck. But also.
35:34
Didn't they do like weird? Shit.
35:36
No, no, the food poisoning was not them, Don't worry.
35:39
No. No, they they made it.
35:40
Why? They made it through the
35:41
wilderness room. That's how they got on the honey
35:45
room. Cast iron stomachs over here.
35:49
I'm glad you forgot it because it was like it was traumatizing
35:52
you all over again. OK moving on.
35:55
And this doesn't have to be a specific trope, but we just had
35:57
general worst trope usage. See, I have two and I don't know
36:02
which one I was picking. We will go through both.
36:05
We we've got all day, babe. Five brothers anus a crime,
36:09
second one Mile High. Oh which trope the whole book?
36:14
My worst trope for a Mile High I think is the pick me oversized
36:20
girl ballad. Valid, but why are you making
36:23
her a slop? Yeah, I know.
36:25
Why Russell do jimmies? It did.
36:27
Why are you making her unhygienic?
36:29
Why are you making her the biggest pick?
36:31
Me. No woman is on that level unless
36:35
they're going through deep, deep depression.
36:37
Like, let's be something real. Yeah, she was supposed to have
36:39
everything else in her life. But like the it's like I don't
36:43
need his money. I'll just wear my holy
36:45
sweatpants. Grow up.
36:47
It didn't fit the character. No, she wasn't a slob.
36:50
She was, but she. No, but the way she described
36:53
her was a slob. Yeah, but she as a character.
36:57
You're a flight attendant. They're not slops.
36:59
You're not a. Slob.
37:00
That, yeah, that makes sense. You know what I mean?
37:02
Remember, she was like, I've got mustard on my chin, my shirt, in
37:05
my hair. And she's walking up to the bar,
37:07
sitting at the bar. Exactly whatever trope that's
37:11
fucking called, I don't. Even know if that's.
37:13
AI don't know if that's a trope. Maybe it's just assuming people
37:17
who are overweight are sloppy. But five brothers?
37:21
Girl, that's a mess. Someone used to sit down with
37:24
Penelope Douglas and ask her what the fuck is with her books.
37:27
I feel like she's. What's up?
37:29
But she's making a lot of money, no?
37:31
Exactly I feel like she sits down and she's like what can I
37:35
add to fuck up? I hope she does.
37:38
She does. I feel like she's like how can I
37:40
fuck with people and see if I can get away with it?
37:42
She borderlines incest every single time.
37:47
She pushes that boundary Every. Single time people eat it up.
37:52
And I think we all read it because we're like, the fuck is
37:55
going on and then we just move past it like no tomorrow.
37:58
But incest trope, what else is in there?
38:02
Everything. I think it's the sort of female
38:05
gang leader trope like the pick. Yeah, the.
38:08
Pick me. I don't know, it's just every.
38:10
She makes her own tropes like Penelope God knows in a league
38:13
of her own a. List of tropes on the wall
38:15
Because sometimes there's so much going on that my brain's
38:18
like, is this a trope or am I stupid?
38:23
Honourable mention for one Ben Trope has.
38:26
To be shield of. Sparrows.
38:28
Is that your? Worst.
38:29
No, no, no. Just honourable mention.
38:31
Honourable mention. Because like, remember at the
38:33
inn? At the brothels and they're sort
38:36
of in the same room and then. It's like he's on the floor.
38:39
I fuck with that though. Do you fuck with the one bed?
38:41
I do. Oh, yeah.
38:42
Mm hmm. Mm.
38:43
Hmm. Mm.
38:44
Hmm. Mm hmm.
38:46
I'm putting in A1 bed trope into my book.
38:49
I'm excited. It's a 1H bed VIP suite booking
38:53
error trope I love. It's gonna be your brain is
38:56
phenomenal. It's it's gonna be.
38:59
It's gonna be. You're like I hate.
39:01
Being made gonna do it. Yeah, I literally.
39:04
Hate 1 bad trip? No, you're.
39:06
Most. Hated, you know it was fake
39:07
dating and. Yes.
39:08
Galas. Fuck galas off no one.
39:12
You know what? We haven't had too many galas.
39:14
This year, no. Maybe even just a couple like
39:18
because. Obviously I don't remember a
39:19
single 150. Shades of Grey, but that was
39:22
more a charity gala, right? But there was definitely Gala.
39:25
I think I was just so distracted by everything else.
39:30
Not mad about it, I'm okay if we phase gullers out.
39:33
They don't need to be there. Okay, if we can hit me with your
39:37
worst trouble. Okay, so again, sort of like
39:42
what you did, there was almost too many tropes, but generally
39:45
light lock for trying to put in exactly 1000 troops exactly
39:50
ineffectively pick. One good one right here.
39:53
Me up. Pick one good one.
39:55
Have two subploties. Of like a main trope.
39:59
And then a. Couple extras, a main trope that
40:02
we're based on, and then a sneaky 1 bed.
40:05
Like 1 bed, it's not the full trope.
40:06
But it's a scene. It's a side chapter.
40:08
Yeah, yeah. Hit me with two side tropes,
40:11
yeah. Don't hit us with.
40:13
Every trope to try and. Get it to I feel.
40:16
Like I read the second book of Flight Lark and it was it's
40:20
very. Cold.
40:21
I'm not a clue. I have a lot of love for a lot
40:24
of books. That's not one of them.
40:27
I just think he was trying to do too much and I can't even
40:29
pinpoint the tropes, that's why. Like they know exactly.
40:32
It's muddy. It's muddy.
40:34
That's all I can say about it because I can't remember because
40:36
we did it early in the year, so I'm kind of behind.
40:39
It's the same with like perilous those that's.
40:41
Funny, they remind me of each other when something is Queen
40:45
Cutter. What don't?
40:46
We need to this year read the original.
40:49
Peril Queen? Yes.
40:51
Is it called Red Queen or? Yes, by Victoria Avart.
40:55
Dude, look, we've got to write this shit down.
40:57
I'm going to read Lie to Me, Red Queen.
41:00
The second flock. Part 2.
41:03
How many books is in that? Is it 3?
41:06
There's two and I think like a like a small one.
41:09
Can we at least not do that extra 1?
41:10
No, I don't want to do it good. I barely need a baiting.
41:14
Here's the thing, I barely want to do the second one.
41:17
I just think it's will be good for us to talk about.
41:20
I think it's a fucking horrid book.
41:23
Then we have to do hunting Adeline yes, because that's our
41:27
number one episode of all time is but the.
41:29
Problem with the hunting ad line?
41:30
Yeah, I know. Yeah, Oh.
41:32
I know you've warned me every time.
41:34
It's like it's 90% her in a like a.
41:37
Yeah. But if?
41:38
Anyone can read it. It would be us.
41:42
We will still somehow I still make.
41:44
Traumatise from that. Book, but we will do it, OK?
41:47
We will do it. It'll be behind the patron.
41:50
Maybe we should. That's what I mean.
41:52
Because it's traumatising. OK, Next category character you
41:56
would mute on site. Sean.
41:59
Sean, I think. Sean.
42:01
Sean. He's terrible, his dialogue, how
42:05
is he a main male character? There's no redeeming qualities
42:08
in his personality whatsoever. None.
42:11
None mute mute your weird conspiracies.
42:15
I swear he's hallucinating and thinks the birds are fucking out
42:18
to get him. Like that is the weirdest.
42:21
You can't convince me. You can't convince me.
42:23
No, no man is hot enough for that kind of behaviour.
42:25
He. Wasn't even hot mute my.
42:28
Is that yours as well? Yeah.
42:29
That's why it's beautiful. Fuck that I know.
42:32
Fuck that book too. You're saying we have to read
42:37
the second one? When we.
42:39
Read. What part of that are you not
42:41
understanding? Colour.
42:42
I'm like, when we read it, you're gonna know exactly what
42:45
the fuck I'm talking about and you're gonna spiral.
42:47
And anyone else who's listening to this and has read the second
42:50
book and hates it knows exactly. What I'm talking about, OK.
42:53
Alright, you're just gonna trust mine.
42:54
Gonna have to deliver. Alright, so we're moving on.
42:58
Oh damn, we've still got categories we get fucking get to
43:01
the point. Worst sex scene?
43:05
Christian raw dogging the communal.
43:07
Couch in an open room. Raw dogging the couch.
43:11
Raw dogging on the couch. Raw dogging the communal couch.
43:15
With the alligator in the corner.
43:16
Alligator on the door open. Door open.
43:19
Swamp outside. Swamp outside isn't.
43:22
It. Raining.
43:23
It was raining. She was also listening to the
43:26
guy she was previously fucking fucking.
43:28
Says yeah. It's humid.
43:29
It's dank. It's dank, you know, It's musty.
43:32
It's musty. It's crusty.
43:34
Weed stank in the air. There's holes in the couch and
43:37
you can't convince me otherwise. There's fucking boots in the
43:40
corner. There's a man over there
43:43
watching you drunk out of his mind, probably stumbling into a
43:46
wall that by and. Not only that, she rocks up on
43:49
the breakfast table the next morning.
43:51
Cooking breakfast for everyone. Like this is normal.
43:54
Gingers. Same change of clothes that she
43:56
was willing to. Do I'm like, it already smells
44:00
like cooch in the house. There's so many.
44:05
There would be so many smells, so many textures.
44:08
I know it really took us. There, I'm like, you can't tell
44:11
me they even sweep in their house.
44:12
Be for real. Tell me why that 5 seconds of
44:15
missionary was supposed to be that life blowing on that dank
44:18
musty couch. Explain that to me, Penelope.
44:23
Exactly. Wait, is it Penelope?
44:25
Yes. OK, I was confused.
44:27
Penlop. Penlop.
44:29
Penlop please. But also it's dumb because we
44:33
created the whole book based on this exact scene on the couch.
44:37
Apparently the end character was supposed to be a plot twist and
44:40
everyone's fucking surprised. I'm not surprised it's the only
44:43
one that drinks alcohol. Mm hmm.
44:45
And you will die on that hill. You'll be like she did not need
44:48
to go. I do all that.
44:49
No, no, I love it for her. Fuck them all girl, fuck them
44:54
all. But also not on a crusty
44:57
communal couch that probably everyone in these dogs fucked
45:00
on. Alligator in the front door,
45:03
right the. Alligator's fucked, you hear the
45:05
hissing. Like of that alligator.
45:08
Snap biting in the corner. I just can't.
45:11
You know what? Yeah, and to be fair, that was
45:14
her pussy origin story. Like that was her pussy
45:16
detective origin story. Exactly we're.
45:18
Supposed to be excited about that it.
45:21
Could. Sometimes you got to put a book
45:23
down and go touch grass. Sometimes you do.
45:25
I'm like, I'm trying to figure ways that it could have been
45:28
better. And the first one was like glory
45:30
hole. And I'm like, that's worse.
45:31
And I'm like, it just never ends.
45:33
What in the communal house? A club even.
45:36
Yeah, a clubby. I don't know.
45:38
None of that seems at least. That would be consensual because
45:40
she'd be putting herself in there.
45:43
She was. Technically.
45:45
Laying on the couch like a loser 'cause she couldn't get her car
45:47
to work. Laying on the car like a loser,
45:50
trying you're no longer having sex with this guy.
45:53
I can't remember whose fault he's fucking someone else
45:55
upstairs. Right, fucking Trent or some
45:58
shit upstairs. Whatever his name is fucking one
46:00
of many brothers. Trent fucking Timber.
46:03
Timber, you got 1, you got two in the other room.
46:07
Got trench, You've got like a sweater.
46:10
Names were all fucking T. But like, you've got one brother
46:14
upstairs fucking the other, I'm sure there was another one girl
46:16
getting fucked between another two brothers.
46:18
Like it was a lot like exactly that house wreaked and you can't
46:22
tell me otherwise. No, but she was signing up to
46:25
become the cleaner. Oh 'cause she loved the
46:28
staircase. Remember all the memories.
46:30
Oh, all the dusty. Oh yeah, she's like there.
46:32
It's. Like Trista?
46:33
There. I feel for Trista.
46:35
There's a whole there's a whole splinter hanging out of the
46:38
floor. I stepped on it and now it's
46:40
girl. No, you've got to get yourself
46:42
to the clinic for tetanus, babe. It's one.
46:45
It's misery, bitch. All right.
46:50
OK. Worse.
46:51
Sexy. OK.
46:55
OK. OK.
46:59
Imagine. OK, Imagine.
47:01
I don't want to. You're in a red room of
47:03
disappointment, and a man comes walking down the stairs, pale,
47:09
glistening, topless, topless, not quite fit.
47:15
Not dad bod, though. Not dad bod.
47:18
Jeans, worn jeans. Holy.
47:20
Wearing a little bit too low. Yeah.
47:23
Like he's really pushing it, holding like a.
47:25
Paddle A used paddle like no shoes.
47:28
Worn. No shoes.
47:29
No shoes, Nelly, He's got them dogs out.
47:31
Right, the jeans are hanging awkwardly too close to.
47:34
The pool. He's been walking down these
47:36
steps. OK, you're about to get spanked
47:39
until you cry. You didn't even sign the
47:42
contract yet. You don't know if you can exit
47:46
this fucking room. The beds, no sheets.
47:48
It's like a rubber. Sheet.
47:50
I don't know. It's like it's.
47:52
Giving Dexter. It's giving water bed.
47:56
OK, sorry. Like, yeah, that's, that's got
47:59
to be the worst Christian Grey. The villain.
48:03
And then you've just got to sit in the corner.
48:07
And then you're traumatized, crying because a you didn't even
48:10
get to read the contract properly and sign it and he's
48:13
just doing it anyway. Also another note, you've just
48:15
looked out random anal toys. You've never had sex before?
48:20
And also he said that there was going to be a safe word and he
48:24
used it, but he didn't. Care about it anyway, no?
48:27
Also doesn't he play like? Yeah, classical music.
48:32
RIP my eardrums out, bitch fuck. But not only is it classical
48:35
music, he keeps replaying the same song.
48:39
Hell, hell, hell. Hell, this is what's happening
48:44
on Jeffrey Epstein's island. Like.
48:45
This this is. Not normal.
48:49
There's no but, sorry. Stop giving people money for sex
48:53
scenes. Stop it, they get weird.
48:56
No, this is not sexy. This is a human trafficking
49:01
situation. This is not a.
49:04
Sexy. It's worse because this is the
49:07
OG of sexy. That's what I mean.
49:10
It's just not sexy. Like I understand that it was a
49:12
while ago. This was pushing the boundaries.
49:15
She's white man's still. Wearing a shirt this.
49:18
White man's jeans are under his ankles.
49:22
They're frayed. They're frayed.
49:23
You know how they're frayed? Because he didn't take him off.
49:26
Oh, they're frayed and also I feel like they're ripped a
49:29
little. That's what I mean, because he's
49:30
a bit, he didn't get them tailored.
49:32
He's got. To feel, you know, he's got to
49:33
split that ankle. Split him.
49:34
He's walking down and his heels stepping on the Split him with
49:40
every. And every single step he takes,
49:44
his jeans pull his ass at us. And not only that, I can't
49:52
imagine this halfway through the spanking.
49:54
You haven't even got it in the puss yet right?
49:56
Like what? He's got this phone sitting
49:59
there and his groomer ex-girlfriend is ringing him and
50:03
her face is like popping up on FaceTime.
50:06
And you know, it's a close up, you know, it's, it's not a nice
50:09
standing photo. It's just this is the features.
50:12
Of the face What's her nickname like as she's calling What's her
50:15
nickname? What's her name?
50:17
Fuck. Lord Farquaad.
50:26
Oh my God, fuck. What emojis are on it, you know?
50:34
Oh my. God.
50:38
Fuck what emojis. Little.
50:40
Dancing Boy. I feel like.
50:49
I feel like. Dancing boy and then like
50:52
fireworks. OK, here's my.
50:56
Idea for nickname OK, here's my idea.
50:58
Mummy dearest still little dancing boy in firework.
51:12
This is silence. Good laughing.
51:15
But like still little dancing boy and.
51:18
Like would you add any more emojis or just them too just.
51:21
Them like cake even. No, no, no.
51:25
Oh my God, what's her name? Fucks me.
51:30
Did it start with AC? Was it even an old lady name or
51:34
not really? What do you type in for Google
51:36
for that? What's the groomer?
51:38
You want who? Creamed Christian.
51:40
Great. Who?
51:42
I'm OK, OK, here's a guess. I want to get something before
51:45
you. I think her name started with
51:46
CI. Could be wrong.
51:49
OK. Well, that was not the question
51:51
to put in there. Oh.
51:52
It's Elena. We weren't even.
51:55
Quite. No.
51:57
Really. But you know why we weren't
51:59
closed? Because she gets called Miss
52:00
Robinson. That's right.
52:05
I'm still here for the a. Lot of points, Claude and Mummy
52:08
dearest. All the things you could
52:12
remember. Because honestly, like.
52:17
Little LF is calling. I.
52:19
Think Mommy Dearest is more Canon to how fucked up Christian
52:23
Gray was, but as Lord Farquine I would read the second book.
52:29
I'd be like, oh shit, Christian Gray's got a bit of something to
52:31
him, bit of sass. Bit of sass.
52:37
That's so good. I love when we make up things at
52:40
a Canon. All right, let's go.
52:42
Best sex scene? I feel like it was either shield
52:46
of sparrows or lights out. I feel like lights out, maybe
52:51
like lights out was hectic, the dagger in the bed like most
52:54
memorable, but I feel like Shields of Sparrow didn't
52:58
repulse. Me, which is a nice change.
53:02
Because I, I can't remember exactly.
53:03
Is that the book we were like and you actually knew where
53:05
everyone's limbs were? Or is that a different book?
53:09
Who knows? Who knows between all of them?
53:12
Them two. Yeah, I could see that for sure.
53:14
And it's funny because it was like most honourable for worse
53:17
was anything with Christian grace.
53:21
I said I can't remember the specific sex scene but out of
53:24
all the books I picked Quicksilver because I feel like
53:28
the sex scenes made sense. Yes, for that development of
53:32
plot, essentially. So it worked with the plot.
53:34
It wasn't for some like shock value, yes.
53:37
So I was like. Not just to be there to because
53:40
they can. Which kind of tracks because you
53:42
pick them as most compatible couple.
53:44
So I'm like, oh. Love like.
53:46
The books we picked this year, the sex scenes, weren't the core
53:50
of the books, except for five brothers, obviously.
53:52
Yeah. For the other books it wasn't
53:54
the main. I feel like we go through stages
53:57
where we either pick. Spicy or non spicy?
54:00
Spicy or non spicy, but also sometimes spicy is too spicy.
54:05
It's just. Boring.
54:06
And I think sometimes I really love spicy.
54:09
There's nothing wrong with spicy, but it's can be draining.
54:13
Sometimes I want to read a little bit more than having sex.
54:17
Exactly. Can we like go back to it?
54:20
Honourable mention for worst sex scene has gonna be the muscles
54:24
and monsters blowjob in the communal gym.
54:27
Oh. Yes, fuck.
54:28
Yes, or the wanking in the communal shower.
54:31
That was fucked. Disgusting.
54:33
Disgusting. And This is why we don't go to
54:35
gyms. You don't know what people are
54:38
doing in that, no. So let's go to biggest plot hole
54:41
or plot twist. I feel like it was beautiful.
54:45
Ugly. Yes.
54:46
I picked that too. But also I feel like we didn't
54:48
read any plot twisty books. Yeah.
54:51
Did I like the plot twist and beautiful ugly?
54:54
No, but. It was a twist.
54:56
It caught me off guard. I thought it was a lesbian cult.
55:00
It is, but yeah, it was a lesbian cult.
55:03
But it was the back story of the weird pedophile drowning
55:06
incident, yeah as well. And I was like, wait.
55:09
And it was the characters not being the same, but being the
55:11
same. It was a lot.
55:13
It was very confusing. Out of that, because I did pick
55:16
it as well out of that, the funniest side of the plot test
55:20
was the fact that Grady was on the side of the road wearing a
55:22
red coat and heels. Yes, yes.
55:26
You could not have paid me money to think that that was the case.
55:29
Nope. He really was going for an Oscar
55:32
for that. Yeah, he really.
55:33
Said hold my purse and he ran into the street as she was
55:38
driving home. He orchestrated that, I think.
55:40
So I think that was the plot twist that got me.
55:43
Yeah. Bizarre.
55:44
Bizarre. I guess for that book, the
55:47
biggest pothole is the fact that they didn't even need it to be
55:50
an author. They could have picked any man
55:52
to work at that island. Like yeah, that was the weird.
55:55
But also, they didn't even kill him either.
55:57
Yeah, I'm you have a publicist as one of the main people.
56:02
Yep. Why don't you just get a couple
56:04
of authors on and take an extra 5% and then use that 5%?
56:09
I think it wasn't. Even about the money generation
56:12
either, it was about they. It was almost like they were all
56:15
taking turns to pick men in their life that they wanted to
56:19
for it to be their turn to be tortured for the bad things that
56:22
they've done. But they would need an author
56:23
every time. Yeah, that's what's dumb.
56:25
I'm like, that's not going to work out every time, baby.
56:27
No. So let's go to most obvious
56:30
foreshadowing. Funnily enough, it's also
56:32
beautiful. Ugly.
56:33
Really. Yeah, the book does it all.
56:38
The book does it all. I feel like also at the same
56:41
time, with the plot twist of him killing her, I also feel like I
56:45
knew everything was happening at the same time, even though I
56:48
just said you knew nothing that was happening, right?
56:50
Because I feel like I remember working it out like halfway, not
56:53
even halfway through the book. Yeah.
56:55
I think you told me that. But in saying that, I'm a
56:57
fantasy book girlie and there's nothing I love more than is when
57:01
you get to the end of the book and you're like, what the fuck
57:03
happened? And then you read it for a
57:05
second time and you're like, there were signs the whole way
57:07
through. So I think the fact that you
57:10
could tell all of it in this book was probably why.
57:14
Yeah, I don't like a blind ending where if you had no info
57:19
you're just getting dragged along to the plot.
57:21
And then? Told what the ending is, yeah.
57:23
So at least this book had you thinking about it.
57:27
I think for this one most obvious foreshadowing, I picked
57:29
Light Lock. Yes, because as well as all of
57:33
the tropes going on, because she was the really stereotypical
57:38
powerless weak girl. Yeah, you of course knew that
57:41
everyone who was over a century years old was relying on her to
57:45
figure everything out. At the end, you sort of just
57:47
knew it. And it's like, what's even the
57:49
point? Because anything like Hunger
57:52
Games and things like that, you've got to have enough
57:54
challenges that it doesn't look like they're actually going to
57:57
win. When she just breezed through
57:59
it, even though she got so physically hurt.
58:02
Yeah, you knew that she was just going to somehow breeze through
58:05
the ending. I will.
58:06
Give I have read the second book and I think the plot twist in
58:12
the second books, it's very like, wow, that makes a lot of
58:15
sense. But also I didn't see that
58:17
coming. But I'm also not going to tell
58:19
you because you just we might read it one day, so.
58:22
I mean for a first book I'm like this is going exactly how I felt
58:25
it. Was.
58:25
Yeah, yeah. OK.
58:27
Most pick me character. That's Christian.
58:31
Yep, same dude. We're so aligned on this one.
58:35
We've already said why we've. Already.
58:37
Said about it. We've talked about her enough.
58:40
Honourable mention is the girl from Flock.
58:43
Can't remember her name because she pisses me off.
58:46
Cecilia yes, with the red Taylor Swift lipstick and the little
58:50
sun dress or whatever she. Did head butter wall bitch?
58:53
Christian could be such good friends.
58:56
I think so. It's essentially same, same,
58:59
different. Christian is the pick me and
59:01
she's proud of it. That's fine.
59:04
Wow that didn't take long. So moving on to most toxic male
59:07
character. Andrew the housemaid, yeah.
59:11
Yeah, yeah. Enough so.
59:13
He didn't really make it hard this year.
59:16
I picked Christian Gray, who you picked as the last villain.
59:18
So realistically, same soundtracks, same, same.
59:23
I think for Christian Gray, not only is all the DV and the blah
59:26
blah that we talked about, the grooming behaviour, it's just
59:28
the straight up gaslighting to her face.
59:31
Yeah. And I think in a way it's
59:32
gaslighting the reader to think that that's OK and he's still OK
59:36
to be the main male character. And I think it makes it seem
59:39
like it's OK because he's rich, when really it's not.
59:41
Yeah. Because if you wouldn't accept
59:43
this from a guy who is unemployed in trying to date
59:46
you, why are you accepting it from Mr. Christian Gray?
59:50
Exactly. You know what I mean.
59:51
It makes you think now, do we have any honourable mentions
59:55
outside of what we've already talked about?
59:57
No, I actually don't. Hey only one I have is like a
1:00:01
personal book favorite of the year.
1:00:04
So my personal 1 was Phantasma but like that's we didn't read
1:00:09
that for the podcast. To outside the podcast.
1:00:11
Yes, I love that book. OK, I have an honourable mention
1:00:15
for favorite character and it was Ransom the Witcher from Timu
1:00:20
from Spiel of because whatever. Why not?
1:00:26
He was the only bearable male character in a way.
1:00:29
We can like a man. I like the idea of him just
1:00:32
being like, yeah, you know, yeah.
1:00:37
He had a reason to to be like that.
1:00:40
I like a patient man. He was so patient with her
1:00:44
bullshit. Patient also time running out.
1:00:47
Exactly. Exactly, exactly.
1:00:49
He didn't make it all about him. No, he.
1:00:51
Was just like, OK, girl, you'll get there eventually.
1:00:55
Yeah, Phil, he's like, he's like.
1:00:57
Cool, cool. I love it.
1:01:00
Now we've got two more categories.
1:01:02
We've got book we're still mad about.
1:01:06
Take a wild guess, flock. Yeah.
1:01:08
It asked. Me it.
1:01:09
Pisses me the fuck off so. Mad.
1:01:12
I'm sorry, why? Did I think I was more mad about
1:01:14
it than you were? Turns out you're more mad about
1:01:16
it than. I think because I read the
1:01:17
second one it made me more mad so.
1:01:20
It like refreshed. It, no, it just added to.
1:01:23
It added to. Yeah.
1:01:25
I hate it so much. Usually I'm like even if a
1:01:28
book's about, I'm like, oh, it's fine.
1:01:30
It's like they tried. I think this book is diabolical.
1:01:34
I think the whole series is fucking diabolical.
1:01:37
What the fuck? Miss.
1:01:39
Kate I never like to judge people based on what they like
1:01:43
to read because we all like different things.
1:01:45
I will have. Exceptions.
1:01:47
Especially for the second one. What do you mean?
1:01:49
What do you mean? Are people hate reading it?
1:01:51
No. They love it.
1:01:53
Which characters do they like? I'm confused.
1:01:56
They like Dominic and they like Sean.
1:01:58
I don't. We the problem.
1:02:00
No. No.
1:02:02
Because I don't understand I've. Read worst books No I haven't.
1:02:06
This is the worst book I'm. Thinking like.
1:02:08
I've read shit books and what? Are we reading that people
1:02:12
aren't reading? I can't wait for you to read the
1:02:15
second one OK. In particular the second the
1:02:19
last half of the book because it has never pissed me off more.
1:02:23
I'm. Scared.
1:02:24
You should be. It's horrible.
1:02:27
It's so bad. OK, we're not doing it on my
1:02:30
birthday month because I want to.
1:02:31
No. No, no.
1:02:32
You want to just push it back, We'll push it.
1:02:34
Back fine. I don't care if we do it in
1:02:36
mine, it's fine. OK, OK it is by far.
1:02:40
I can't. I can't.
1:02:41
I will go for hours but I also don't want to ruin it for you.
1:02:45
OK, we won't. We'll leave it at that for now.
1:02:48
That's OK, Tell me yours. I'm still mad about Mile High
1:02:52
valid because. What the fuck?
1:02:55
Also. Zanders and nothing I fucking
1:02:59
hate more that would. Be my second pick.
1:03:01
The male character breaks up with the female character for no
1:03:05
reason. Even his own teammates were like
1:03:09
what the fuck? Bro none of it makes sense.
1:03:13
There was no need to break up. Why did we need to make her
1:03:16
crusty? But he was also the one who had
1:03:18
the biggest sulk after the breakup.
1:03:20
She actually accepted a job in a different city or whatever was
1:03:24
still doing things she wanted to do, was on her way to a glow up
1:03:28
probably and and then he was the one who chucked a big sulk.
1:03:32
Angers me to my core. I don't know if we talked about
1:03:35
it when we did the podcast but I feel like the author hated her
1:03:39
as a character. I think she wrote her to hate
1:03:43
her. She picked someone in her life
1:03:45
that really pissed her off and wrote her to hate on her.
1:03:49
Like you can't make someone crusty and disgusting and
1:03:52
unhygienic and that much of A pick me but just it.
1:03:57
But it wasn't like she was being a pick me.
1:04:00
I generally think she hated the character.
1:04:02
I think it was supposed to be that dynamic of he's still
1:04:05
picking her because she's humble and he's supposed to be chasing
1:04:08
a trophy girlfriend. We can have humble and not a
1:04:11
slob. I still think she's too good for
1:04:13
him. She will die on that hill.
1:04:14
She is too good for him, but also she did.
1:04:17
Why was she like, I'm living with mustard on my entire
1:04:20
family? No one's doing that.
1:04:22
Be for real, be for real. Also she was body Oddy Oddy.
1:04:25
Yeah, she was body. Oddy.
1:04:27
Oddy you she. Was she was 362436?
1:04:31
Curves for days. Quite attendant.
1:04:33
Ask Fat. Had to turn to go down the
1:04:36
aisle. Yeah.
1:04:37
In the plane, you're telling me not every single man was
1:04:40
thirsting? After her, you're telling me you
1:04:42
wrote a woman with beautiful curly hair and you made her
1:04:46
slobby with her face? Card never declining by the way.
1:04:49
Never declining, but you're like, she has rats in her hair.
1:04:52
That's how she wrote and the. Paparazzi took a photo and
1:04:54
everyone was full cyberbullying. Her exactly.
1:04:58
And I'm like. You're.
1:04:59
Telling me this beautiful woman that works on a plane is not
1:05:03
gonna be looking after her girls.
1:05:05
You're a private flight attendant.
1:05:07
You know how to beat your face. There's a standard for flight
1:05:10
attendants and it's pretty fucking high.
1:05:12
Fuck off with that. Fuck off with that.
1:05:14
That's. Always too good for him.
1:05:16
That's why I'm convinced the author hated her.
1:05:20
I'm. Convinced.
1:05:21
Let's wait for a response. It's from Liz.
1:05:24
Liz, You're going to tell me Liz.
1:05:25
Please. Who you wrote about and the beef
1:05:27
you have with us. Please if you find this podcast.
1:05:30
E-mail us, Batgirl. We need answers.
1:05:33
It was like she was in trying to embarrass the character like
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that. I don't know how to explain it
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otherwise. Yeah.
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I know you did your honourable mention for best book but that
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was outside of the podcast. So what is your best book for
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2020? 5 Quicksilver Whoo it's my good
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favorite book. What do you think of?
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Isn't there a new cover for it? Because I don't like the
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original cover. I love the original cover.
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Really. I don't like the new cover.
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His hands look non proportional, the way he's gripping his neck
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looks a bit, his wrists look really skinny.
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Yes. That's what I don't like.
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She should have kept it to the face and shoulders looking down.
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No hands. And maybe the butterfly's a bit
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cheesy, but whatever, it is what it is.
1:06:14
I like the original. With the hands like this, is
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that what it? Or am I just not looking at it
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wrong? Yeah, yeah, you're right.
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His hands the. Hands are giving caressing
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myself. I don't think it's his hands.
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I know it is. If you take his the arms out
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because it also looks like the thumbs, it's like this.
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He should have just had his shoulders and looking down it
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would. Like, because who stands like
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that? Nobody.
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I've never noticed the hands. Oh, I I.
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Forgot it. My best book for 2025 overall if
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I was to round out everything is Lights Out by Nervesa Allen.
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Which is so surprising, I know, but also fun.
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Because it had banter. It was in the modern age, which
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cool it was. Weird.
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Like a touch smutty but original enough to not be a cut and
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paste. Also they did have like a
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villain in that because didn't they have that guy that they
1:07:11
accidentally killed because he was trying to rape her?
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You remember she? No, I only just remembered then.
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What a side plot. But what's very interesting,
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It's better than whatever Christian Gray was doing.
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Honestly, nobody hates Christian Gray more than me.
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I think I've been a hater through and through from the.
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Beginning hater through and through.
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Him. Wow.
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So that is it. We finally did this.
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We finally wrapped up last year's books.
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We got there in the end. So that wraps up the 2025
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Ploties, our official extremely biased ruling on our year of
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books. If your fave got robbed,
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miscategorized, or absolutely dragged, just know that we did
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it with love. Thanks for joining us on Lose
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