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Naked Exec Eyed in Fashion Designer's Hamptons Yacht Death: Blood, Vomit, No Charges? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a naked executive tonight eyed
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Speaker 1: in a glamorous young fashion designer's Hampton's yacht death. She's purple,
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Speaker 1: there's blood all over her head and face. Vomit. You
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Speaker 1: know what's missing? Charges? There are no charges. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. A beautiful young fashion designer found dead
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Speaker 1: on a Hampton's yacht.
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Speaker 2: Things get swept under the road.
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Speaker 3: People might be paid off, people might not be might
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Speaker 3: be scared to speech a dead woman on a yacht.
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Speaker 1: That is from Martha Nolan's TikTok account. Imagine that beautiful
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Speaker 1: young woman, purple, blood all over her face and head, vomit. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure how blood all over your face
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Speaker 1: and head equals no charges. In fact, you're in a
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Speaker 1: naked executive straight out to Brian Harmon, joining US executive
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Speaker 1: editor Greater Long Island dot Com former Daily News, What
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Speaker 1: can you tell me, Brian about the condition of Martha's
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Speaker 1: body when found on the naked executive's yacht.
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Speaker 6: Well, the official word from authorities is that there was
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Speaker 6: no evidence of blood force trauma, that the death didn't
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Speaker 6: seem to be suspicious, and that there was no signs
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Speaker 6: of blood. There was no blood at the scene. Since then,
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Speaker 6: there have been reports showing indicating that the EMTs did
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Speaker 6: find blood on the back of her head and chest,
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Speaker 6: blood in her mouth.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious because those are two very different accounts.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's you, Brian Harmon. I know for
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Speaker 1: a fact that you are recounting exactly what has been stated.
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Speaker 1: But I find the dichotomy to be jarring, to say
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Speaker 1: the least. That authorities, whoever that might be, says well, no,
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Speaker 1: no blood. But the EMTs and I'm reading directly find
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Speaker 1: blood on the floor near her body, purpling of the
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Speaker 1: lips and under her nail beds, blood in her oral mouth,
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Speaker 1: head and chest area, we also find vomit her head
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Speaker 1: covered in blood. According to a new report. How is this?
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Speaker 1: How can one official report say there was no bleeding
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Speaker 1: and another, Brian Harmon coincidentally from those on the state
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Speaker 1: there was blood.
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Speaker 6: That's really not something I can explain. I'm just I'm
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Speaker 6: basing it off of official reports from the police and
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Speaker 6: then and then documents that have since come forward from
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Speaker 6: the mts that were at the scene and the documents
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Speaker 6: that they filled out. I do can say that I
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Speaker 6: spoke with police yesterday. They did say that the case
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Speaker 6: remains under investigation.
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Speaker 1: Joining us in addition to Brian Harmon joining us from
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Speaker 1: Greater Long Island dot Com formerly Daily News. Joseph Scott Morgan,
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Speaker 1: Professor forensic Shacksonville State University, the author of Blood Beneath
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Speaker 1: My Feet on Amazon. He is the star of a
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Speaker 1: hit series, Body Bags of Joseph Scott Morgan and has
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Speaker 1: performed over ten thousand death scene investigations. How can you
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Speaker 1: have blood on the back of your head and there'll
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Speaker 1: be no foul play? I don't understand that the.
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Speaker 7: Clue rest here means in what they're referring to as purpling,
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Speaker 7: which is not a very common term she is cyanotic,
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Speaker 7: and that's what it sounds to me. And what that
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Speaker 7: means in plain English is the fact that she's in
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Speaker 7: some type of congestive failure, perhaps now congestive failure. You
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Speaker 7: can arrive there in a couple of different ways. We've
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Speaker 7: already talked about drugs, all right. So that means that
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Speaker 7: your lungt stop functioning, your hot heart stops functioning. You
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Speaker 7: can have blood that will pull inside of your airway,
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Speaker 7: you can cough it up. There's another way that cyanosis
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Speaker 7: you can appreciate it, and that is through some kind
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Speaker 7: of aphixial event where the airway is being blocked in
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Speaker 7: some way. You can see it. You know, we talked
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Speaker 7: to we heard about vomiting. In this case, did she
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Speaker 7: aspirate any kind of vomit into her throat or into
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Speaker 7: her airway, or or did she have some kind of
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Speaker 7: pressure applied to her throat. I find it very interesting
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Speaker 7: as well, is that her nail beds were starting to
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Speaker 7: purple up, which many times is you're seeing that in
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Speaker 7: cases of an oxygen deprivation event. And that means that
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Speaker 7: she's not getting uptake of oxygen, all right, and so
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Speaker 7: your body is like screaming, screaming, screaming, and all of
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Speaker 7: these things play a part in leading to the terminal event.
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Speaker 1: Nancy, blood on the back of her head. Blood on
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Speaker 1: the back of her head. I heard everything you just said.
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Speaker 1: I did not hear an explanation for blood on the
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Speaker 1: back of her head.
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Speaker 7: Okay, sure, So if you're coughing up blood perhaps and
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Speaker 7: you're in a soup pine which means on your back position,
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Speaker 7: you're turning your head from side to side, you can't
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Speaker 7: spit up blood and it will gravitate to the back.
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Speaker 7: That's really the only only explanation I would have at
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Speaker 7: this moment. Tom that medical not getting hit on the
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Speaker 7: back of the head.
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Speaker 1: Oh well, you know what I get it. It's the
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Speaker 1: victim's fault. She messy girl vomited blood and then rubbed
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Speaker 1: her head in it. Okay. To Jeff Gentry joining us
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Speaker 1: at a Fresno forensic certified blood Stained pattern analyst, senior
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Speaker 1: crime analyst, a death investigator, former toxicology lab analyst, author
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Speaker 1: of forensic science applications to death and crime scene investigations, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: please tell me something different, because I don't think she
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Speaker 1: vomited up blood and then rubbed the back of her
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Speaker 1: head in it.
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Speaker 8: Okay, So when I'm going into a scene, if I
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Speaker 8: see blood, I have to first of all figure out
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Speaker 8: where did this blood come from? And that should have
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Speaker 8: been on everybody's mind right from the get go. I mean,
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Speaker 8: not only are they trying to save this person's life,
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Speaker 8: but they're trying to figure out where this came from.
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Speaker 8: In the medical examiner's report, there were no indications of
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Speaker 8: any external injuries. Could they have possibly missed an injury
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Speaker 8: on the head if they're not correctly documenting blood at
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Speaker 8: the scene, Yeah, that's possible. So I'd be really curious
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Speaker 8: to see exactly what those medical examiners put in their reports.
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Speaker 8: But let's just assume that they're correct and that there
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Speaker 8: were no obvious external injuries. Then where did that blood
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Speaker 8: come from? And that had to be from the noser mouth?
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Speaker 8: And what your other guest said about there possibly being
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Speaker 8: some traumatic asphixial event that could definitely cause blood from
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Speaker 8: the noser mouth. For sure, it is not really common.
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Speaker 1: Nose and mouth. Nose and mouth, Jeff Gentry, what you're
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Speaker 1: singing along with Joe Scott Morgan's choir, She naughty girl
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Speaker 1: vomits that blood then rubs the back of her head
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Speaker 1: in it okay, Brian Harmon joining me, executive editor at
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Speaker 1: Greaterlong Island dot Com. Isn't it true, Brian, that the
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Speaker 1: naked executive told EMTs he was in bed with Martha
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Speaker 1: and called nine one one when he could not wake
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Speaker 1: her up.
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Speaker 6: That has been reported in a number of places, and
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Speaker 6: we've reported that as well, that he was he was.
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Speaker 6: You know, they were definitely on the boat. They had
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Speaker 6: been on the boat for hours together. They were there
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Speaker 6: apparently they were there for some type of business meeting.
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Speaker 1: In bed him naked be quote in bed, the business
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Speaker 1: meeting in bed.
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Speaker 6: Originally it was it was officially it was reported as
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Speaker 6: a business meeting, and then there has since been reports
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Speaker 6: that have indicated that he has said that they were
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Speaker 6: in bed together.
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Speaker 1: Brian Harmon, You know, Harmon, I've read your work and
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan. Hold On, let me understand this.
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Speaker 1: This is a yes.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: I have now declared to you a hostile witness and
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Speaker 1: I'm cross examining you. Isn't it true? The naked exec says,
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Speaker 1: according to reports, he wakes up in bed and she's
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Speaker 1: dead in the bed beside him. Is that correct?
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Speaker 6: That is no, that is not. What I know is
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Speaker 6: is that they were on the boat together. First of all,
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Speaker 6: I know nothing directly from him over the last year.
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Speaker 6: You know, we have tried to reach out to him,
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Speaker 6: reach out to the people representing him, and we have
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Speaker 6: not heard back from them. But what I do know
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Speaker 6: is what you've discussed before, is that he did go
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Speaker 6: screaming naked down the dock, and multiple other voters reported that.
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Speaker 2: And then.
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Speaker 6: You know EMTs and other responders came to the scene
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Speaker 6: and found found her in that state and did try
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Speaker 6: to resuscitate her.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I believe I said reportedly, and you just said that.
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Speaker 1: According to reports, he stated two EMTs that he had
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Speaker 1: been in bed with her and woke up and could
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Speaker 1: not wake her up. That remains reported, Leah, So then
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Speaker 1: the answer after all, that is yes, that's what he
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Speaker 1: reportedly said, correct. Okay. Reminder to Brian Harmon, I only
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Speaker 1: have a JD, not a DDS. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: to pull teeth, but I can certainly try straight out
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Speaker 1: to Dan Murphy joining me. Former NYP detective sergeant, formerly
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Speaker 1: on the Joint Terrorism Task Force, former chief security officer
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Speaker 1: at US Bank Corps and star of gold Shields podcast,
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Speaker 1: author of Workplace Safety Dan, he's running around naked screaming.
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Speaker 1: If he'll do that in front of the other boat goers,
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Speaker 1: what will he do in private. I'm just having a
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Speaker 1: hard time getting my head around the fact that he
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Speaker 1: says to EMTs. Reportedly Brian Harmon reportedly, if you don't
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Speaker 1: want to believe the EMTs, I guess that's on you.
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Speaker 1: That he says he woke up in bed with Martha,
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Speaker 1: who has a boyfriend, and told him she was on
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Speaker 1: her way home. He was unable to wake her, and
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Speaker 1: that he called nine one one help me.
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Speaker 2: Dan, He himself makes statements about where she was, But
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Speaker 2: why again, why didn't he call nyman one himself and
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Speaker 2: ultimately the medical examiner of the EMTs when they came
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Speaker 2: find her cold to the touch. There's a million reasons
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Speaker 2: why a person can be cold to the touch, and
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Speaker 2: Dr Morgan can ince with them far better and professionally
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Speaker 2: than I, but had been at many scenes. The human
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Speaker 2: body is ninety eight point six at an average temperature.
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Speaker 2: If she's dead, it starts to go down around two
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Speaker 2: degrees or so an hour. It cools slowly. To find
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Speaker 2: someone cold to the touch. Also, the extremity is cool
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Speaker 2: quicker than the core.
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Speaker 1: Body crime stories. With Nancy Grace, Dave mac joining me
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Speaker 1: crime stories investigative reporter didn't The naked exec also state
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Speaker 1: the reason he was naked is because she vomited on him,
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Speaker 1: had blood on the back of her head and reportedly
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Speaker 1: Brian Harmon that was for you. He claims he's naked
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Speaker 1: running up and down the dot. He says he's stripped
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Speaker 1: because Martha vomited on him, so he went naked. But
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Speaker 1: there were no signs of vomit at the scene or
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Speaker 1: in the autopsy. There was no soiled clothes at the scene.
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Speaker 9: Nancy, there is no indication of vomit being anywhere. But
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Speaker 9: what there is an indication of is that Martha was
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Speaker 9: cold and turning purple butt. There was no active bleeding.
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Speaker 9: The blood was dried blood on her head, chest and
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Speaker 9: around her mouth. Not vomit, but dried blood. Says that
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Speaker 9: she went limp between ten thirty and eleven. But he
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Speaker 9: goes screaming down the dock, you know, naked, looking for
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Speaker 9: help and doesn't call nine one one. It is someone else,
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Speaker 9: a bystander that calls nine one one around midnight We've
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Speaker 9: got at least one hour of time where we don't
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Speaker 9: know what was going on. We just know that he
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Speaker 9: was covered in vomit is not backed up by any evidence.
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Speaker 1: As of tonight, no one has been charged, no one
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Speaker 1: is being considered a person of interest, No one has
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Speaker 1: been detained or arrested at all. Why. According to the
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Speaker 1: executive's lawyer, his client was naked because his clothing was
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Speaker 1: soaked in the victim's vomit. Her heartbroken family is not
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Speaker 1: This young woman came from a rural, extremely rural area
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Speaker 1: in Ireland, comes here to make a better life for
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Speaker 1: herself and starts her own fashion design business with stars
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Speaker 1: in her eyes. The executive was an alleged investor and
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Speaker 1: wanted to meet up with Martha on his yacht, according
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Speaker 1: to him, to discuss her swimwear fashion company. Then she
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Speaker 1: ends up dead beside him in bed and him naked.
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Speaker 1: His lawyer says he was naked because his clothing was
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Speaker 1: quote soaked in the victim's vomit. No soiled clothing was
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Speaker 1: found on the boat. But I'd like to point out
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Speaker 1: that in the EMT Emergency Medical Technician report, there was
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Speaker 1: blood on the floor. Dodor Cloeloe Carmichael joining as clinical psychologist,
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Speaker 1: She obviously thought she was going to an investi meeting.
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Speaker 1: So how did he end up button naked? She's clothed,
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Speaker 1: blood on the back of her head and pulled to
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Speaker 1: the touch.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, Nancy, what I know from the facts apparently is
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Speaker 11: that at the very least, he was running around throwing
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Speaker 11: sunscreen battles and all these things. What I might infer
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Speaker 11: from that is it appears that he was making a
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Speaker 11: big display of asking for help. Yet, as you pointed out,
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Speaker 11: he apparently did not do the most obvious thing, which
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Speaker 11: would be to call nine one one, And it appears
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Speaker 11: from the temperature of the body and other medical details
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Speaker 11: that he may have not moved as fast as he could,
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Speaker 11: even if we believe his ridiculous I think story of
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Speaker 11: having taken off his clothes because they were soaked with vomit.
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Speaker 11: Even if that were true, it would only suggest that
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Speaker 11: he further delayed going to get her medical care. If
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Speaker 11: I were with somebody that I cared about who was
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Speaker 11: vomiting to the point of needing medical attention. I wouldn't say, oh,
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Speaker 11: excuse me, You're going to have to wait while I
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Speaker 11: cleaned myself up a moment and then I'll go get
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Speaker 11: you the medical help. So none of this makes sense.
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Speaker 1: You know. Another concern to Brian Harmon. According to Martha's family,
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Speaker 1: law enforcement told the family the scene had been cleaned
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Speaker 1: up before first responders arrived.
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Speaker 6: This is what is part of the basis of the
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Speaker 6: wrongful death lawsuit that she's filed them last week, and
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Speaker 6: she met that she filed it, her family filed it,
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Speaker 6: and it was basically it was filed on almost to
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Speaker 6: the day, one year from when she died. And it's
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Speaker 6: it's really like you're obviously pointing out that it's a
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Speaker 6: family that's waited for a year for some answers, for
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Speaker 6: someone to explain what happened to their loved one.
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Speaker 1: To Joanna Nieva's joining us, renown criminal defense attorney, founder
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Speaker 1: of the Nievs Law firm, joining us out of the
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Speaker 1: California jurisdiction. Joanna, you have handled criminal cases, you handle
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Speaker 1: civil cases. The family is accusing him, the naked exec
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Speaker 1: of causing Martha's death through assault and negligence. I'm guessing
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Speaker 1: the negligence would be waiting so long to call nine
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Speaker 1: to one one. And the assault, I assume is derived
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Speaker 1: from the blood on her body.
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Speaker 5: I agree with you, that's what we can assume.
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Speaker 3: We don't have enough information or a detailed complaint to
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Speaker 3: really understand what their allegations are.
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Speaker 5: We know from the first autopsy that they're this.
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Speaker 3: Conclusion that there was no violence, and then the second
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Speaker 3: autopsy undercuts this theory of an overdose, but there were
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Speaker 3: trace amounts of cocaine in there. We do have these
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Speaker 3: like suspicious behaviors that were going on, namely him being naked,
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Speaker 3: the time gap that's unexplained, the things that we see
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Speaker 3: around the scene that are being described, like the blood
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Speaker 3: on her body that's dried. We just at this point,
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's enough for that causal connection. You know,
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Speaker 3: that blood could belong to somebody else, somebody could have
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Speaker 3: fallen or cut themselves earlier.
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Speaker 1: Who who would fall and cut themselves? And she rubs
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Speaker 1: her head in it? Do you do hear yourself?
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Speaker 10: Right?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Here's the thing. I don't know that she rubbed
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Speaker 3: her head in it. I do know that there was
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Speaker 3: blood that was found around her, dried on her body.
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Speaker 3: I do think, I do, of course believe that there
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Speaker 3: is blood that would be derived from her that came
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Speaker 3: from her mouth, but other blood on the scene could
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Speaker 3: have been could have happened during attempts to save her.
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Speaker 5: Maybe somebody maybe the.
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Speaker 1: Blood is around her body.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody else could have harmed themselves in the attempts
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Speaker 3: to save her.
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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure whether I'm not concluded that they.
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Speaker 1: Were also happy you said that because they didn't need
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Speaker 1: a warrant to get this guy stripped down to see
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Speaker 1: if he has injuries or a cut himself. He says
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Speaker 1: he was alone with her on the boat. So we've
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Speaker 1: seen his whole body on natural and there are not
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Speaker 1: any cuts on it. So who is the mysterious spontaneous
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Speaker 1: bleeder you're talking about that.
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Speaker 3: We know of thus far, right, Just like we see
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Speaker 3: that there was this lack of kind of consideration and
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Speaker 3: reporting regarding the blood earlier on, even though the EMT
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Speaker 3: documented there, it is the possibility that there's a lack
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Speaker 3: of documentation concerning any injury to him, as well as
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Speaker 3: far as him being on loan on the boat. I
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Speaker 3: don't know if he was captaining the boat, the yacht.
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Speaker 3: Excuse me himself, what are you saying, woman?
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Speaker 1: He says, he was along with her on the boat.
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? A captain? He is? The
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Speaker 1: captain says boat.
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Speaker 3: Really, some people do not consider the people that are
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Speaker 3: assisting them what they might consider help as people.
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Speaker 1: And okay, just please please, Joanna. I know you in
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Speaker 1: a lot of cases, but right now I think you
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Speaker 1: need to go lay down. I think you've had a
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Speaker 1: head injury because there's nobody else on the boat. Nobody
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Speaker 1: else cut themselves. Nobody was a hemophiliac and bleeding on
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Speaker 1: the floor, and she got into the blood. That didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: She was covered in blood, she and his lawyer states,
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Speaker 1: And back to Brian Harmon, his lawyer states that she
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Speaker 1: Martha goes limp as early as ten thirty. He thought
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Speaker 1: she was having a heart attack.
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Speaker 6: That is not something that has been officially reported or
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Speaker 6: officially said by law enforcement authorities. So I cannot really speak.
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Speaker 1: I asked you did the lawyers say that? Dave mac
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Speaker 1: do you know about that? He is the executive's lawyer.
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Speaker 1: Holdsman states that Martha goes limp at ten thirty, between
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Speaker 1: ten thirty and eleven. Do you see that? You know what,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott, help me out here. She's limp at least
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Speaker 1: ten thirty, She's cold to the touch when EMTs get there,
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Speaker 1: he's naked, she's got blood all over her head. Does
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Speaker 1: nobody see a problem with this? Am I the only
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Speaker 1: one that has a problem?
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Speaker 7: No, there is a problem, particularly when you're talking about
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Speaker 7: the body being cooled to the touch, as Dan had
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Speaker 7: mentioned just a few moments ago, the idea that she
24:54
Speaker 7: would be cold to the touch. Now, we don't have
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Speaker 7: a degree reading here like you would have with the
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Speaker 7: collegal death investigator, at least to this point where they
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Speaker 7: can measure this. They can give you the body temp.
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Speaker 7: This is troubling to me from the sense that, as
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Speaker 7: Dan had mentioned, you're going to lose that first hour
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Speaker 7: that Nancy, you're going to lose about two degrees of temp.
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Speaker 7: If we're at ninety eight point six, you're going to
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Speaker 7: be down to ninety six point six, and then for
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Speaker 7: every hour after that, you're going to lose about a
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Speaker 7: degree to a half to a degree and a half
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Speaker 7: of body temp under ideal conditions. The other thing I'd
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Speaker 7: be very curious about Nancy, is was her body rigid
25:34
Speaker 7: in any way, did she have any rigidity in her jaw,
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Speaker 7: in her fingertips, any of those peripheral areas where we
25:41
Speaker 7: look in the smaller muscle groups. And also we've talked
25:44
Speaker 7: about the back of her head where you've got this
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Speaker 7: kind of matted area of blood or whatever this is
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Speaker 7: that they're kind of vaguely describing here. I want to
25:53
Speaker 7: know if she's got any kind of distribution of blood
25:59
Speaker 7: that has settled on her back and to what degree.
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Speaker 7: Now this is where it goes from the EMTs doing
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Speaker 7: their initial assessment to an actual death investigation, where this
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Speaker 7: thing is locked down and the scene is thoroughly worked through.
26:14
Speaker 7: And one big thing here, Nancy, that I'm really concerned
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Speaker 7: about is that to this point we've only heard snatches
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Speaker 7: that she had trace elements of cocaine in her system.
26:27
Speaker 7: To me, what that says is that there's probably what's
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Speaker 7: called cocaine metabolite, which is as the cocaine is metabolizing
26:36
Speaker 7: through the system, it's leaving back little remnants. We generally
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Speaker 7: get this out of the urine most of the time.
26:43
Speaker 7: If there's not enough there to kill her, we have
26:46
Speaker 7: to look somewhere else. Why hasn't the official toxicology report
26:51
Speaker 7: actually been released with all of the qualified and quantified
26:57
Speaker 7: amounts that were in her body.
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Speaker 1: I've never heard of a cocaine overdose. When the talks
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Speaker 1: report shows trace, that doesn't even mean it was that night.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 7: The only the only time that that could have happened, okay,
27:16
Speaker 7: is if there's some kind of peripheral thing that she's
27:19
Speaker 7: got some kind of heart ailment. Okay, And I'm not
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Speaker 7: buying that because we would have heard that.
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Speaker 1: From from my stars. A congenital heart ailment. Okay, I'm
27:32
Speaker 1: putting you in the corner. There's no evidence at all
27:36
Speaker 1: of a heart ailment. She's a healthy young woman having
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Speaker 1: a stupid meeting with an alleged investor on his yacht.
27:46
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you he ain't naked when she gets
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Speaker 1: on that yacht. Crime stories with me. That's great to you,
28:05
Speaker 1: Dave Matt. Wasn't she perfectly coherent when she called her
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Speaker 1: boyfriend said I want to get out of this. I'm
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Speaker 1: all the way home, just give me a minute.
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Speaker 4: Yep?
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Speaker 12: She was.
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Speaker 9: There was no sign of anything going south when she
28:17
Speaker 9: talked to her boyfriend. It it's everybody's trying to avoid
28:23
Speaker 9: the obvious. Here you've got a sixty year old rich
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Speaker 9: guy with a beautiful young woman on his yacht to
28:30
Speaker 9: talk about business. You know, Nancy, this is not a
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Speaker 9: dumb woman.
28:35
Speaker 6: She has a.
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Speaker 9: Bachelor's degree, a master's degree in digital marketing. She built
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Speaker 9: her product line East by East from the ground up.
28:44
Speaker 9: She even she actually created pop up stores on montak.
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Speaker 4: We launched about two years ago and we had our
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Speaker 4: first retail location pop up in Montauk in the montepe
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Speaker 4: chest And she will be going back there this summer,
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Speaker 4: so you will see us there. We'll be doing some
29:04
Speaker 4: brand activations, some brown partnerships, some like wellness stuff, and
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Speaker 4: we will also of course throw some parties, some cool
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Speaker 4: parties with really cool DJs. So yeah, stay tuned for that.
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Speaker 6: Within hours of her death, you could walk right up
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Speaker 6: to it. You could, you could board it. I mean
29:30
Speaker 6: it wouldn't be legal to board it, but you could.
29:32
Speaker 6: You could see in it. You could, and that's where
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Speaker 6: the reports of the white powery substance come from. That
29:36
Speaker 6: was that was on a cushion, you know, that was
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Speaker 6: very visible, so you could see right into the yacht.
29:43
Speaker 6: There was no signs of trauma or blood. Of course
29:46
Speaker 6: I could not see into the bedroom, but the boat
29:50
Speaker 6: remained docked there for days. There was no police tape
29:53
Speaker 6: around it. And this is within hours.
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Speaker 2: Of the u of her death.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Gentry, forensics certified bloods pattern analyst and author.
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Speaker 8: Way In Nancy, I am completely on board with you
30:06
Speaker 8: in this case. It is not a natural death. She's young, healthy,
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Speaker 8: no evidence of any congenital issues or hard issues, anything
30:14
Speaker 8: that people have been throwing out there. It's not an
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Speaker 8: accidental overdose. The drug levels were too low, and then
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Speaker 8: it's not a suicide. And you have young lady alone
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Speaker 8: on a boat with one person. And if it's not
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Speaker 8: an overdose, what is it? And I think the family
30:28
Speaker 8: has a great claim that there was not only evidence
30:32
Speaker 8: of possibly violence, but then also the neglect element. And
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Speaker 8: like the other investigators have suggested, you have to look
30:39
Speaker 8: at the body temperature, you have to look at the
30:40
Speaker 8: condition of the body. You have to look at the blood.
30:42
Speaker 8: Was it dry, was it wet? Was there evidence of cleanup?
30:45
Speaker 8: I hope that they did actually take the time to
30:48
Speaker 8: use like luminol or blue star to see if there
30:51
Speaker 8: was evidence of cleanup. Was there rags where they're wet towels.
30:55
Speaker 8: All of that has to be documented and definitely plays
30:58
Speaker 8: a factor in this death investigation.
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Speaker 7: I think the biggest element here that I want to
31:04
Speaker 7: try to understand is going to be the toxicology results
31:08
Speaker 7: and how this factors into any kind of lifestyle decisions
31:12
Speaker 7: that the owner of this shot may have been made
31:15
Speaker 7: making at this particular time. Does this come into play.
31:18
Speaker 7: We've heard a lot of snatches of information about this.
31:22
Speaker 7: I'd like to know where the status of that investigation
31:25
Speaker 7: goes relative to any kind of drug involvement. That would
31:28
Speaker 7: be very curious. I'd like to know why, at this point, Tom,
31:32
Speaker 7: after all these months, the police are holding the results
31:36
Speaker 7: of said toxicology report so close to the vest I'd
31:41
Speaker 7: like to know more about that as we move forward
31:44
Speaker 7: with this case.
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Speaker 3: So I think what we need to keep in mind
31:47
Speaker 3: is that right now there's a civil lawsuit where the
31:49
Speaker 3: burden of proof is much lower than a criminal action.
31:53
Speaker 3: So in order to get to a preponderance of the
31:56
Speaker 3: evidence for this wrongful death claim, they can rely on
32:00
Speaker 3: totality of this circumstantial evidence. The blood that was found
32:04
Speaker 3: him being with her running around naked, trace evidence of
32:08
Speaker 3: cocaine's and how all of that plays together. But to
32:10
Speaker 3: get to a conclusion that this was a homicide and
32:14
Speaker 3: he was the person that inflicted an injury on her
32:17
Speaker 3: and caused the death of this young woman, it's going
32:21
Speaker 3: to take a bit more investigation than the spattering of
32:23
Speaker 3: information that we currently have.
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Speaker 2: As with always in any sort of a case of
32:27
Speaker 2: a death investigation is the medical examiners report is being
32:31
Speaker 2: sat on by the Suffer County Emmy. They're doing that
32:34
Speaker 2: because they kicked it back to the Suffer County detectives
32:36
Speaker 2: and said, we need to know more, which I find
32:39
Speaker 2: unusual because typically in a homicide you will have evidence
32:43
Speaker 2: of homicide findable by the emmes themselves, But in this
32:47
Speaker 2: case they need to know a lot more, which means
32:49
Speaker 2: to me they're taking it seriously and it's frustrating to
32:51
Speaker 2: not have the reports to look at or comment on.
32:54
Speaker 2: But I'd be very curious to see those reports exactly
32:57
Speaker 2: what her cause and manner of death were, because they're
32:59
Speaker 2: holding it tied.
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Speaker 5: To the best.
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Speaker 11: It's a terrible tragedy, of course, that this beautiful young
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Speaker 11: woman with so much in front of her should should
33:08
Speaker 11: pass away under such strange and mysterious circumstances, and I
33:12
Speaker 11: think it's really frustrating that we haven't been able to
33:14
Speaker 11: get all of the reports that we would all like
33:17
Speaker 11: to see. So I certainly hope that that comes through soon,
33:19
Speaker 11: because uncertainty and these types of situations always increase our
33:23
Speaker 11: frustration and our anxiety.
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Speaker 9: Nancy, there was a time here where he was a
33:29
Speaker 9: major investor, actually the only outside investor in East by East,
33:34
Speaker 9: and he was talking to Martha and here a partner
33:39
Speaker 9: about the possibility of investing more money. So there's legitimate
33:43
Speaker 9: reasons for them to meet to discuss business and beyond that.
33:47
Speaker 9: So I think there's a lot more to this story
33:51
Speaker 9: from the investigation. What we're hearing civilly is way different
33:56
Speaker 9: than what we're hearing from law enforcement, which law for'
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Speaker 9: is playing this very close to the best, and the
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Speaker 9: information that we're running with is coming from the civil suit.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
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Speaker 4: Hello, my name is Martha. I am the founder and
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Speaker 4: CEO of East by East. So East by East is
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Speaker 4: AVer's wardware brands. East by East stands for new work
34:21
Speaker 4: for the Hamptons. Our tadline is built in the city,
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Speaker 4: made for the sun. I absolutely need a drore. I
34:27
Speaker 4: think It resonates with so many people on so many levels,
34:30
Speaker 4: because if your at some point, everyone in their lives
34:33
Speaker 4: are you know, grinding city lives. But everyone's just destined
34:38
Speaker 4: for the sun. I know I am, and pretty much
34:41
Speaker 4: everyone else is. So I think it's very fitting.
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Speaker 12: Growing up, Martha studies commerce at university before earning a
34:48
Speaker 12: master's in Digital marketing from the Perfect Business School. Describing
34:52
Speaker 12: herself as the small town girl who needed to get
34:55
Speaker 12: out to achieve her big dreams, Martha says fashion is
34:58
Speaker 12: a tough industry and it would be a slow road.
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Speaker 12: At twenty six, she leaves her small town and relocates
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Speaker 12: in New York City. Martha begins launching pop up events
35:08
Speaker 12: to promote her summerware fashion label East by East in
35:11
Speaker 12: the Hamptons and quickly gains recognition.
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Speaker 4: We launched about two years ago and we had our
35:19
Speaker 4: first retail location pop up in montal in the Montepet House.
35:24
Speaker 4: And yeah, we'll be going back there this summer, so
35:29
Speaker 4: you will see us there. We'll be doing some brand activations,
35:34
Speaker 4: some brown partnerships, some like wellness stuff, and we will
35:39
Speaker 4: also of course throw some parties, some cool parties with
35:43
Speaker 4: really cool DJs. So Yeah, stay tuned for that.
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Speaker 13: Martha creates content focusing on beauty tutorials, brand updates, and
35:52
Speaker 13: candid reflections about challenges launching a fashion label. These chats
35:57
Speaker 13: encourage people to be motivated in their own lives. Martha
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Speaker 13: describes her hard working mindset she believes is shaped by
36:04
Speaker 13: growing up in a small.
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Speaker 1: Town, growing up in a small rural town, coming here
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Speaker 1: for a new life Tonight. No one is charged, No
36:15
Speaker 1: one has been arrested. There has been no evidence of
36:19
Speaker 1: foul play, according to law enforcement. The family of Martha
36:28
Speaker 1: is suing, insisting that she did not die as claimed,
36:36
Speaker 1: claiming the naked executive assaulted her and that she died
36:46
Speaker 1: because of extreme neglect. What happened aboard the ripple? We
36:55
Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds. If you know or think you
36:59
Speaker 1: know anything about this case, please dial sixty three to
37:03
Speaker 1: one eight five, two, six, three nine six foul play
37:08
Speaker 1: or is the naked executive just a victim of a
37:14
Speaker 1: series of unfortunate events? We remember American hero police officer
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Speaker 1: David Rose to Caab County, Georgia, just thirty three, killed
37:25
Speaker 1: in the line of duty, leaving behind a pregnant wife
37:30
Speaker 1: and two little children. American hero Police officer David Rose.
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Speaker 1: Thank you to our guests, but especially to you for
37:39
Speaker 1: being with us. Nancy Gray signing off for tonight. Let's
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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow night, and until then, good night friend,