Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Rich Lowry | Editor-In-Chief of National Review Unpacks llhan Omar’s Shady Family History Yielding Probe from Trump
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Rich Lowry's here, Mr. National Review. Great every Wednesday morning. Rich,
- 0:04Speaker 1: happy Wednesday, buddy.
- 0:05Speaker 2: How are you?
- 0:06Speaker 3: Same to you. I'm good. How was the parade?
- 0:09Speaker 2: The parade was great. I loved it.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I was in a convertible Cadillac and took a long
- 0:14Speaker 1: time this year. It took over three and a half
- 0:15Speaker 1: hours to go from 45th and 5th to 72nd and 5th,
- 0:19Speaker 1: but it was a great day.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Great day.
- 0:21Speaker 3: You can't really go 45 miles per hour.
- 0:23Speaker 2: No, you can't. The best part of the day.
- 0:24Speaker 3: The lights are in your favor, but you got to
- 0:26Speaker 3: go slow.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Yeah, the best part of the day, believe it or not, was...
- 0:30Speaker 1: That Mamdani wasn't there.
- 0:31Speaker 2: That was the best part.
- 0:33Speaker 3: There you go.
- 0:34Speaker 2: What a creep. So I was reading the New York
- 0:36Speaker 2: Post a couple of days ago. I came across this.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Elon Omar's shady family history gives Trump plenty of reasons
- 0:45Speaker 1: to probe her past.
- 0:47Speaker 2: And who wrote that? You did.
- 0:49Speaker 1: So I got to tell you, I had Brian Kameet
- 0:51Speaker 1: on the show yesterday. And so many times, Rich, so
- 0:55Speaker 1: many times in the 11 years I've been here, dating
- 0:58Speaker 1: back to my days with Bernard, I wanted to see repercussion.
- 1:02Speaker 1: I wanted Hillary Clinton to go to prison for wiping
- 1:05Speaker 1: out all those emails. I wanted to see Andrew Cuomo
- 1:08Speaker 1: do time. I wanted to see.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Bill de Blasio's wife do time. It never happens. Only
- 1:14Speaker 2: Bob Menendez. He's the only putz.
- 1:16Speaker 1: So I said to Brian Kilmeade yesterday, I go, is
- 1:19Speaker 1: there a chance that Elon Omar is really in trouble?
- 1:24Speaker 1: And he said yes, because there were two probes going on,
- 1:27Speaker 1: not just the age and whether she was here legally
- 1:31Speaker 1: or not, or she can stay in Congress or not,
- 1:33Speaker 1: but there's a fraud issue that.
- 1:35Speaker 2: They really think they can get her on.
- 1:38Speaker 1: You tell me, Rich Lowry, is Ilhan Omar in any
- 1:41Speaker 1: serious trouble?
- 1:43Speaker 3: She might be. It's hard to know. If Brian's right,
- 1:46Speaker 3: she would be. I don't think... I don't think the
- 1:50Speaker 3: immigration stuff is going to be criminal, even if she's
- 1:53Speaker 3: guilty of it. I think it would be more of
- 1:56Speaker 3: a bid to denaturalize her. And even if you denaturalize
- 2:00Speaker 3: her and there's a process, hearings, et cetera, I'm not
- 2:04Speaker 3: sure she's going anywhere because she's married to a U.S.
- 2:06Speaker 3: citizen and has U.S. citizen children. But if there's something
- 2:10Speaker 3: else involving money, well, that would make it much more
- 2:13Speaker 3: serious and perhaps criminal in nature. It's just hard to know.
- 2:16Speaker 3: You know, as has been pointed out, presumably a Democratic
- 2:20Speaker 3: judge approved this warrant. So that suggests at least there's
- 2:23Speaker 3: enough evidence for the warrant. But people need to understand
- 2:26Speaker 3: the immigration thing. Everyone kind of knows about marrying the
- 2:28Speaker 3: alleged brother. She may have done that. The whole thing's
- 2:31Speaker 3: a little murky. She may have done that. But as
- 2:33Speaker 3: you pointed out, this has to do with her father,
- 2:35Speaker 3: very likely, because she describes in her memoir her father
- 2:39Speaker 3: as an educator, right? Makes him sound as though he
- 2:41Speaker 3: was the assistant principal of Mogadishu High, right? That's all
- 2:46Speaker 3: he did in Somalia. He was really a servant of
- 2:48Speaker 3: this dictatorial, blood-soaked regime and a colonel, a Soviet-trained colonel
- 2:53Speaker 3: in the military. And most people, right, you have a
- 2:56Speaker 3: relative of those in the military, especially a dad, and
- 2:59Speaker 3: apparently he was decorated and... in the Somali-Ethiopian war, you
- 3:04Speaker 3: least mention that. You probably exaggerate it. You know, you're
- 3:07Speaker 3: proud of it, and it's very suggestive that she doesn't
- 3:09Speaker 3: mention it at all. So it raises the possibility he came,
- 3:13Speaker 3: sought asylum here, and said, hey, look, I'm just a teacher.
- 3:15Speaker 3: And there's also a suggestion that she may have lied
- 3:18Speaker 3: about her age, because if your dad gets naturalized back
- 3:21Speaker 3: then and you're a minor, you're naturalized automatically as well.
- 3:25Speaker 3: But she may not have been 17, as she said.
- 3:27Speaker 3: She may have been 18 or 19, which would make
- 3:29Speaker 3: the whole thing fraudulent. Right.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So if the whole thing is fraudulent, she can no
- 3:33Speaker 1: longer serve in Congress, right?
- 3:36Speaker 3: If she's denaturalized, I think you have to be a
- 3:40Speaker 3: citizen to serve in Congress, right? Yeah. So there you
- 3:44Speaker 3: have it.
- 3:44Speaker 1: I'm going to bring on Mark Wayne Mullen at 940
- 3:49Speaker 1: this morning. If all that comes out and she lied
- 3:53Speaker 1: and she was 18, blah, blah, blah, Can we deport
- 3:56Speaker 1: her at that point?
- 3:58Speaker 3: I was asking an immigration expert friend of mine this
- 4:01Speaker 3: question yesterday. I was like, okay, so let's say they
- 4:03Speaker 3: do denaturalize her. Does she have to go? And he
- 4:06Speaker 3: didn't know because she is married to a U.S. citizen,
- 4:09Speaker 3: as I mentioned, has U.S. citizen children. So I'm not sure.
- 4:13Speaker 3: So that's a question I don't know the answer to.
- 4:18Speaker 3: But look, this thing, if there's a there there and
- 4:22Speaker 3: you get down the path to denaturalization, this is going
- 4:24Speaker 3: to be thermonuclear.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 4:26Speaker 1: It's going to be great. Hey, Richard, tell me what
- 4:29Speaker 1: you think about shutting off Starlink in this Ukraine, the
- 4:33Speaker 1: Ukraine-Russia conflict. And again, the United States shutting off Starlink.
- 4:38Speaker 1: I talked about this with Brian Kilmeade this.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Morning, too.
- 4:40Speaker 1: He's obviously very, very heavy pro-Ukraine, very. And he thinks
- 4:45Speaker 1: Putin is committing genocide.
- 4:47Speaker 2: I agree with him. What do you think about the U.S.
- 4:49Speaker 2: shutting off Starlink?
- 4:51Speaker 3: I'm with Brian on this whole issue. I'm very pro-Ukraine.
- 4:55Speaker 3: So maybe you want to restrain the munitions we're giving
- 4:58Speaker 3: them because, you know, we're low on some important stuff,
- 5:02Speaker 3: as we know. But I don't get tilting towards Putin
- 5:05Speaker 3: or trying to punish Ukraine. And I understand why Trump
- 5:08Speaker 3: doesn't like Ukraine hitting the refineries. But Ukraine's only hitting
- 5:11Speaker 3: Russian refineries because Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine without cause and
- 5:17Speaker 3: is destroying all this energy infrastructure in an effort to
- 5:21Speaker 3: freeze it out this winter, you know. So in that circumstance,
- 5:24Speaker 3: it's understandable what they're doing. So I just, you know,
- 5:27Speaker 3: Trump's been all over the map on this. I thought,
- 5:29Speaker 3: you know, he'd come in and think, OK, I'm going
- 5:31Speaker 3: to get a peace deal. And then you realize Putin
- 5:33Speaker 3: is the ultimate obstacle. And he tilts against Putin, which
- 5:36Speaker 3: he did for a while. But now he's kind of
- 5:37Speaker 3: back complaining about Ukraine. So I just I don't get
- 5:41Speaker 3: this one.
- 5:41Speaker 1: And this one doesn't seem like it's coming to an
- 5:43Speaker 1: end anytime soon because Putin, if Trump can convince Putin,
- 5:48Speaker 1: and I thought that Trump had the best shot of anybody,
- 5:51Speaker 1: no one can. No one.
- 5:53Speaker 3: Correct.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:54Speaker 3: And look, there's nothing wrong with trying to get a
- 5:56Speaker 3: peace deal here. And for a while there, it was
- 5:59Speaker 3: kind of illegal to even think that we should try
- 6:01Speaker 3: to get a peace deal, which always struck me as crazy.
- 6:04Speaker 3: And a peace deal, I'd be happy with a peace deal.
- 6:07Speaker 3: You just draw a line on a map where it
- 6:08Speaker 3: is now and give Russia everything that they've taken. Ukrainians
- 6:12Speaker 3: wouldn't like that, but that'd be fine with me. But
- 6:14Speaker 3: it's not fine with Putin because he wants more.
- 6:16Speaker 2: He wants more. Rich Lowry, National Review. So, Richard, as
- 6:20Speaker 2: of today, we are 20 days away. That's it.
- 6:23Speaker 1: 20 days away from Election Day. It's going to start
- 6:27Speaker 1: getting very hairy, very nerve-wracking. A lot of very anxious people,
- 6:32Speaker 1: including President Trump in Washington, D.C., because he knows this.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Okay, Rich, have an honest conversation. If we lose the midterms...
- 6:40Speaker 2: I know this, and it breaks my heart.
- 6:42Speaker 1: They're going to go after him, his family, his friends. Heck,
- 6:48Speaker 1: it's not crazy to think I could be subpoenaed. They
- 6:51Speaker 1: are going to spend their days and nights trying to
- 6:54Speaker 1: ruin this guy's life. And even though he will still
- 6:57Speaker 1: be the president and he can still get some stuff done,
- 7:01Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
- 7:02Speaker 2: He has not told me this. I promise you. I'm
- 7:04Speaker 2: telling you.
- 7:05Speaker 1: He's nervous for his family, his friends, and what could
- 7:09Speaker 1: happen in about three weeks.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think they're going to take the House,
- 7:15Speaker 3: as we've discussed, and that's what they're going to do.
- 7:16Speaker 3: I don't know whether they're going to impeach him. I
- 7:18Speaker 3: think they might find it irresistible. If they're smarter, they'll
- 7:21Speaker 3: just do the investigations, because the public usually doesn't oppose investigations.
- 7:25Speaker 3: They might not like an impeachment. Impeachment could backfire, but
- 7:28Speaker 3: usually investigations... don't. So they have every incentive to do that.
- 7:31Speaker 3: I don't think it means the end of his presidency.
- 7:33Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much he does that just doesn't
- 7:36Speaker 3: have to do with Congress. You know, he wanted the big,
- 7:39Speaker 3: beautiful bill. He wanted the SAVE Act. I'm not sure
- 7:41Speaker 3: there are other things he really wanted, particularly from Congress.
- 7:44Speaker 3: So much of what he does is on his own.
- 7:45Speaker 3: But this will be a huge distraction. It will generate
- 7:48Speaker 3: all sorts of headlines he won't like and will be,
- 7:51Speaker 3: you know, a psychic and legal drain on people really
- 7:54Speaker 3: close to him, including his children.
- 7:57Speaker 1: And this Iran thing, you know, people aren't following it
- 7:59Speaker 1: that closely anymore. They've lost interest, but I'm sure you
- 8:03Speaker 1: know this. Do you realize that 10, that's a big number, Rich,
- 8:08Speaker 1: not one or two, 10 ships have been attacked in
- 8:13Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz this week alone?
- 8:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Well, they're trying to shut it back down, and apparently
- 8:20Speaker 3: we've destroyed their radar, and now they're using, like, little
- 8:22Speaker 3: ships just spotting stuff, you know? So we can blow
- 8:25Speaker 3: those up, too, but.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Eliminating their ability to do anything, any disruption in the Strait,
- 8:31Speaker 3: would be a years-long effort, I believe. So I'm back
- 8:34Speaker 3: to thinking, you know, I was a little more optimistic
- 8:36Speaker 3: a couple weeks ago. Now I'm thinking, okay, well, we're
- 8:39Speaker 3: still stuck.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, too.
- 8:42Speaker 1: So this morning I was supposed to be in Washington, D.C.
- 8:44Speaker 1: I was personally invited by the Secretary of State, my
- 8:47Speaker 1: friend Marco Rubio, to go to the State Department this morning.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Him and Howard Lutnick are actually putting on a ceremony today.
- 8:55Speaker 2: The 46 Americans that were killed in Gaza, October the
- 9:00Speaker 2: 7th and after. So this is not Israelis. This is Americans.
- 9:03Speaker 1: That's what Marco and Lutnik are doing at the State
- 9:05Speaker 1: Department today.
- 9:07Speaker 2: And people keep asking me every day, Marco going to run?
- 9:10Speaker 2: Marco going to run?
- 9:11Speaker 1: You said last week that because he's reached out to
- 9:15Speaker 1: me a bunch, and he has. He has.
- 9:18Speaker 2: That's a true story. I'm not lying. Including on the
- 9:20Speaker 2: plane coming back from Greece last week.
- 9:22Speaker 3: He was doing two things. He was firing Kimberly Guilfoyle
- 9:25Speaker 3: and reaching out to you. That's multitasking.
- 9:29Speaker 1: So do you still feel the same way that he's
- 9:31Speaker 1: going to run because of.
- 9:34Speaker 4: That?
- 9:34Speaker 3: What I said is the one piece of data that
- 9:37Speaker 3: kind of made me go, huh? You know, he might
- 9:41Speaker 3: be thinking about it and kind of planning for it.
- 9:43Speaker 3: I'm still skeptical he's going to run, but I have
- 9:45Speaker 3: to say just anecdotally, you know, cocktail parties around the
- 9:49Speaker 3: country or whatever, people will– volunteer that they like Marco Rubio.
- 9:54Speaker 3: I never hear that about J.D. Vance. It's not as
- 9:56Speaker 3: though they're anti-Vance, but no one's ever come up to
- 9:58Speaker 3: me and said, I really love J.D.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Vance.
- 10:00Speaker 2: That's true.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Whereas you hear that about Rubio all the time. Now,
- 10:03Speaker 3: you look at the polls. There's another one the other day.
- 10:05Speaker 2: J.D.
- 10:06Speaker 3: Is ahead of this very early going. But I just
- 10:10Speaker 3: don't get the sense that he's... People have an innate
- 10:14Speaker 3: attraction towards J.D.
- 10:15Speaker 2: You're 100% right.
- 10:16Speaker 1: 100% right. So the question becomes, midterms are over. Win, lose,
- 10:21Speaker 1: or draw. When do you think the presidential race of
- 10:25Speaker 1: 2028 begins to really hit the spotlight?
- 10:30Speaker 3: I think within weeks we'll get people saying I'm forming
- 10:34Speaker 3: an exploratory committee or showing more leg in media interviews.
- 10:39Speaker 3: I think it's going to start really fast. soon, you know,
- 10:42Speaker 3: it's going to be touchy with the president, right? He's
- 10:45Speaker 3: not going to like the idea of anyone succeeding him
- 10:47Speaker 3: or the idea that, you know, it's within the horizon
- 10:50Speaker 3: that he's going to be out of office, but that's
- 10:53Speaker 3: the reality.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Yeah, some journalist contacted me two days ago and she said, hey,
- 10:56Speaker 1: you met with J.D. Vance and have they contacted you since?
- 10:59Speaker 1: I said, no, to be honest, I've had a couple
- 11:01Speaker 1: of conversations with J.D. 's chief of staff, Nick Luna,
- 11:04Speaker 1: very good guy, I love him, so does Trump. I
- 11:06Speaker 1: think I've spoken to Will Martin once or twice, but
- 11:08Speaker 1: the truth is, I've invited J.D. on this show more
- 11:12Speaker 1: than once, including last week, October 7th. I thought, hey,
- 11:17Speaker 1: what a great way for J.D. to ingratiate himself with
- 11:19Speaker 1: the Jewish community in New York to come on and
- 11:22Speaker 1: talk about October 7th.
- 11:23Speaker 2: They didn't even get back to me. I've now asked
- 11:25Speaker 2: for J.D. three times.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Since I met him at the White House, they don't
- 11:30Speaker 1: even get back to me. So I said, well, listen,
- 11:33Speaker 1: they're concentrating on the midterms. He doesn't want to talk
- 11:36Speaker 1: about the presidential race right now. But if I give
- 11:38Speaker 1: you a chance to talk about October 7th in New York,
- 11:43Speaker 1: you've got to hop on that right away, no?
- 11:46Speaker 3: I would think so, yeah. I would keep asking right
- 11:48Speaker 3: after the election. I'd keep asking again.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I think I will one more time, and then after that,
- 11:52Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, F you, Rubo is running,
- 11:54Speaker 1: and he's my guy anyway.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Rich Lowry, you're great as always. I love you, pal. Hey, Rich,
- 11:58Speaker 2: by the way, you're coming next Thursday to my Hall
- 12:00Speaker 2: of Fame thing?
- 12:01Speaker 3: I am, yeah.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Oh, you are?
- 12:03Speaker 3: With bells on.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome. I love you, pal. Thank you so much.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Rich Lowry right there, the editor of the National Review,
- 12:10Speaker 1: and yes, eight days away, a week from tomorrow, I
- 12:14Speaker 1: will officially be inducted into the New York State Broadcaster's
- 12:20Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, it's a big deal. Iconic Rainbow Room
- 12:24Speaker 1: at Rockefeller Center. And a lot of people are coming.
- 12:27Speaker 1: I never heard this before. I think we've got five
- 12:29Speaker 1: tables already. My men's crew, the Keith Kantrowitz crew, Bo Dietl,
- 12:34Speaker 1: Pete Morgan, my family, my crew here at the radio station,
- 12:39Speaker 1: ABC's got their own table.
- 12:41Speaker 2: I don't think any.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Other honoree has ever had that many people attend this event.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Once again, disemphasizing. How huge I am.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Right, Lewis? Is it fair to say that? Yes, it's
- 12:53Speaker 2: more than fair. Thank you, Lewis. Usually I go to
- 12:55Speaker 2: Noam for that, but Al Volpe gets a kick out
- 12:57Speaker 2: of that. Isn't that right, Noam? Al Volpe loves that.
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