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Marco Rubio | Secretary of State on U.N. General Assembly, the Iran Conflict, Ukraine VS. Russia, A.I. Race with China, Greenland/Denmark... · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: My next guest is one of my favorite people in
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  Speaker 1: the world.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that.
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  Speaker 1: I love President Trump. You know that. I was just
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  Speaker 1: with Trump on Thursday. I love him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm furious over his meeting with Mamdani yesterday, and I've
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  Speaker 2: told him that I hate Mamdani. I don't hide that
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  Speaker 2: from the president. But I still love him. But this guy,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mad about anything. Secretary of State and the
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  Speaker 2: best ever at that position, my friend Marco Rubio. We
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  Speaker 2: date back 16 years ago when Marco beat Kendrick Meeks
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  Speaker 2: and Charlie Crist to become a senator down in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Still friendly 16 years later, the great Secretary of State,
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  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio.
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  Speaker 1: Mr. Secretary, good morning, pal. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good. Glad to be with you on the radio again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you, too.
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  Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, with all the issues
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  Speaker 2: in the world today, Marco, what are you going to
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  Speaker 2: do to fix what I saw the first two weeks
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  Speaker 2: against the Raiders and the 49ers?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they're tanking them. I mean, look, if
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  Speaker 3: you look at that team, like the majority of their
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  Speaker 3: salary cap is tied into players that aren't even on
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  Speaker 3: the roster. So they're going to have to go into
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  Speaker 3: the Valley before they can get to the mountaintop there.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be a rough year.
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  Speaker 1: It looks that way. Talking about, of course, Mr. Rubio's
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  Speaker 1: beloved Miami Dolphins. They look rough.
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  Speaker 2: But listen, football is not the main story today. The
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  Speaker 2: main story is something you deserve congratulations for. You and
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  Speaker 2: President Trump, you guys this morning at the United Nations,
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  Speaker 2: will sign an agreement with the leaders of Greenland and Denmark.
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  Speaker 2: How about this? President Trump talked about this for months,
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  Speaker 2: the deal with Greenland. Now you guys have made it happen.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's a permanent deal. Isn't that right?
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 3: And remember, look, from the very beginning, what the president's
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  Speaker 3: been saying, he's actually started talking about this in his
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  Speaker 3: first term is Greenland is important for us from a
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  Speaker 3: point of view of national security. Like we can never
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  Speaker 3: afford to wake up one day in a world where
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  Speaker 3: the Chinese are bases there, the Russians, anybody, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And so for us, that's very critical. And it's a
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  Speaker 3: very vulnerable place because it's a huge piece of land.
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  Speaker 3: It's a huge territory and not a big population and
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  Speaker 3: so forth. And so this deal does that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it basically is a permanent deal. It allows us to
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  Speaker 3: put as many military bases as we need in order
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  Speaker 3: to defend everything. It creates an investment screening process so
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  Speaker 3: that before any company can go in there and invest,
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  Speaker 3: they have to be screened by us and by Denmark
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that they're not linked to the Chinese
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  Speaker 3: or any non-NATO enemy country kind of thing, adversary. And
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  Speaker 3: it's a great deal. It's phenomenal. Never would have happened
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  Speaker 3: without the president making it a priority. And we'll sign
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  Speaker 3: it today. And, you know, it's one of those rare
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  Speaker 3: moments in which everybody's happy. It's a great deal for Denmark,
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  Speaker 3: great deal for Greenland, and obviously a great deal for
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  Speaker 3: the security of the United States.
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  Speaker 1: And right off the bat, we've got two bases. Is
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  Speaker 1: that right, Marco? We're going to put there two?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're working through that, and we'll work with them, too,
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  Speaker 3: on it, but at least two. We have one that
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  Speaker 3: we had years ago that could be restarted. We have
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  Speaker 3: another one that could be built up. And a lot
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  Speaker 3: of this is going to depend on missile defense. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at where– if missiles were ever launched
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  Speaker 3: at the U.S., they would come over the Arctic Circle
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  Speaker 3: and over the Arctic region, and having that presence there
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  Speaker 3: would be the first line of defense against that. So
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  Speaker 3: we'll let the experts at the Department of War sort
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  Speaker 3: of figure out what we need to have there. But
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  Speaker 3: the fact that we have the opportunity to do it,
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  Speaker 3: this is now an option for us forever, permanently. It's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great, great achievement. And unfortunately, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 3: not get the coverage it deserves from the mainstream media.
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  Speaker 3: But I think generations of American leaders and people will
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  Speaker 3: be very grateful that this deal was made today.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, nothing will get the coverage from the mainstream
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  Speaker 2: media because as far as we're concerned, they don't exist.
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  Speaker 2: They're not invited to the party. But for a while there, Mr. Secretary,
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  Speaker 2: it seemed like the people in Greenland weren't thrilled about
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  Speaker 2: this deal. But clearly they've come along, yes?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, the deal is a good deal
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  Speaker 3: for them, right? And look, there's an issue there beyond
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  Speaker 3: just the United States. There is a movement in Greenland
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  Speaker 3: that wants the option to one day become independent. And
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  Speaker 3: this deal stands whether they go independent or not. So
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  Speaker 3: it's not just with us. There's a rub there with
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  Speaker 3: regards to Denmark as well, which made things a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more complicated because It's not the people that hate America.
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  Speaker 3: They simply want the option to one day become an
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  Speaker 3: independent country if they so choose to do that. That'll
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  Speaker 3: be up to them. But whether that happens or not,
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  Speaker 3: this deal covers it. In essence, it'll still be a deal.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why making Greenland a part of the deal
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  Speaker 3: was important as well. They signed on to it as well.
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  Speaker 1: Love it. All right, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Secretary of State, let's get to Iran. It's still out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's still kind of happening. I know the president now
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  Speaker 2: has said he is willing to meet with the Iranian president,
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  Speaker 2: which is a very, very big deal. So where were
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  Speaker 2: we exactly in that conflict? And do you think that
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  Speaker 2: meeting between Trump and their president will actually happen?
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  Speaker 3: Well, what the president said is he's willing to meet
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  Speaker 3: with anybody. I mean, he will because he thinks talking
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  Speaker 3: and engaging is important, even if you're not going to
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  Speaker 3: agree with him on it. And so nothing is scheduled
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  Speaker 3: as we speak now. That could change. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if it will. I'm not saying it will. But in
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  Speaker 3: the end, we have to always remind people what this
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  Speaker 3: is all about. There's a lot of talk about the
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  Speaker 3: Straits and this and that. This is about one central issue.
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  Speaker 3: Those lunatics and that radical Shia cleric regime can never
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  Speaker 3: have a nuclear weapon. And every American president says that
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  Speaker 3: every world leader we talk to agrees. But someone's got
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  Speaker 3: to do something about it. Eventually, something has to be
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  Speaker 3: done about it. And this president is doing something about it.
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  Speaker 3: And that is what a lot of people have forgotten.
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  Speaker 3: And if you think I'm not saying they're not high
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  Speaker 3: now and no one likes high gas prices, no one
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  Speaker 3: likes high oil prices and diesel and all that. But
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  Speaker 3: it would be triple that. If Iran had a nuclear weapon,
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  Speaker 3: they could do whatever they wanted. They could close the
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  Speaker 3: straits and they would tell the world, you can't stop us.
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  Speaker 3: We control the straits. We'll do whatever we want because
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  Speaker 3: we have a nuclear weapon and we'll nuke you if
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  Speaker 3: you try to stop us. So imagine living in a
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  Speaker 3: world like that. These are people, look how they've massacred
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  Speaker 3: their own people. If they're willing to massacre their own people,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think they'd do to us or to
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  Speaker 3: Israel or to their neighbors, their Sunni neighbors, for example?
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  Speaker 3: So Everyone agrees they can't have a nuclear weapon. The
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  Speaker 3: only thing that's changed is that we have a president
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  Speaker 3: that's willing to do something about it.
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  Speaker 2: And wanting to do something, I believe, I could be wrong,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not the Secretary of State of the President, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just a radio guy.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm pretty smart.
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  Speaker 2: I think eventually we're not going to have a choice
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  Speaker 2: but to really unleash our might on the Iranians.
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  Speaker 1: Not to kill civilians, which people talk about all the time.
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  Speaker 2: President Trump's a good person. He doesn't want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And we will limit that just like the Israelis do,
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  Speaker 2: that genocide nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: But eventually.
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  Speaker 2: There's going to have to come a time when there
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  Speaker 2: is a real hit to end this thing.
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of any other way to end it, Mr. Secretary.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I never speculate about what might be done or
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  Speaker 3: might not be done for a lot of different reasons.
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  Speaker 3: But number one, I want to be clear. The United
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  Speaker 3: States never targets civilians, ever. That doesn't mean that in
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  Speaker 3: a war, unfortunately, tragically, and in a heartbreaking way, some
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  Speaker 3: civilians get caught in the crossfire. But we never target civilians.
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  Speaker 3: The United States doesn't do that. You know who does
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  Speaker 3: target civilians?
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  Speaker 2: Iran.
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  Speaker 3: Iran targets civilians. They launch rockets into going after embassies
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  Speaker 3: and hotels where they knew there were civilians. Because embassies
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  Speaker 3: are staffed by diplomats. From what I can recall, it's
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  Speaker 3: the first time in modern history that any nation state
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  Speaker 3: has deliberately targeted diplomatic facilities. And they've done that routinely,
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  Speaker 3: them directly and through their proxies in the region. They
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  Speaker 3: do target civilians. We don't do that. They target civilians
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  Speaker 3: with terrorism. When these terrorists blow a place up or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: it's civilians they're trying to terrorize. So that's who we're
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  Speaker 3: dealing with here. But we don't target civilians. But look,
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  Speaker 3: here's what people need to know. Number one, more oil
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  Speaker 3: is going through the straits now than they were two,
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  Speaker 3: three months ago. And it's growing every day because our
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  Speaker 3: military has done a great job of clearing it of mines,
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  Speaker 3: protecting the ships that are going through, and more and
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  Speaker 3: more oil is flowing. And that eventually will begin to
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  Speaker 3: impact global prices on oil and gas. The second thing
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  Speaker 3: that's happening is Iran's getting no oil out. We have
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  Speaker 3: a total blockade. They haven't been able to get a
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  Speaker 3: single ship out now in weeks, and it's hurting them.
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  Speaker 3: And number three is we are imposing crushing sanctions. And
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  Speaker 3: every time they try to find a loophole, we find
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  Speaker 3: the loophole, and we close the loophole. So they're under
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  Speaker 3: extraordinary economic pressure. Let's see what happens after that. But
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you they're going to be poorer, and
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  Speaker 3: they're going to have less money to spend on terrorism
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  Speaker 3: and on a nuclear weapon as a result of these
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  Speaker 3: sanctions and the blockade.
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  Speaker 1: That's good news. So, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Secretary, on Thursday, I'm going to be at the U.N.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going there with Bibi. I'm going to watch the
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  Speaker 2: Israeli prime minister once again... try to educate the world,
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  Speaker 2: and try to convince a world that's getting dumber every
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  Speaker 2: day that Israel is not committing genocide. They're not the
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  Speaker 2: ones that are aggressive. They're just defending themselves. You know, look,
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  Speaker 2: I know the president met with Mamdani yesterday, and I've
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  Speaker 2: had very honest conversations with President Trump, who I love dearly,
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  Speaker 2: like I love you, about Mamdani. I can't stand him.
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  Speaker 2: He's a bad guy. Very, very bad guy.
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  Speaker 3: Very.
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And he still wants to arrest Bibi Netanyahu, knowing full
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  Speaker 2: well he can't do it. He still said it yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think the mayor continues to say that nonsense?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he wishes he could. That's number one. I think
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  Speaker 3: number two, because he's speaking to some constituency that's at
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  Speaker 3: the core of his political support. But he's not going
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  Speaker 3: to do it. He can't do it. He doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: the ability or the legal authority to do it. And
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  Speaker 3: so I think some people in politics say things to
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  Speaker 3: show off.
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  Speaker 2: That's the bottom line. I do want to do one
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  Speaker 2: more thing about Israel, and then we'll get to Ukraine.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to go in a couple minutes because I've
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  Speaker 3: got to go to the U.N. I apologize because I've
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  Speaker 3: got to get there before the president. They close all
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  Speaker 3: the streets. You guys know that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so give me the latest with Ukraine-Russia. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I know Zelensky, the president.
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  Speaker 2: Wants Zelensky to ceasefire maybe in this, the energy deal.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me about the latest between Ukraine and Russia.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean, the latest is we don't have
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  Speaker 3: a deal right now, but it makes all the sense
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  Speaker 3: in the world. This war is not good for either side.
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  Speaker 3: It's obviously not good for Ukraine and it's terrible for Russia.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're not doing well in this war. They
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  Speaker 3: just aren't. So it makes all the sense in the
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  Speaker 3: world to stop it. But unfortunately, in foreign policy and
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  Speaker 3: international matters such as this, sometimes what makes sense isn't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily what happens. So what the president said is we're
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  Speaker 3: going to continue to be in a position. If there
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  Speaker 3: is an opportunity for us to make a difference and
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  Speaker 3: bridge the divide between these two sides, the president's ready
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  Speaker 3: to do it. We're going to keep trying to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But obviously, that's not where we are right now today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm hopeful that will change. And I think eventually it will.
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  Speaker 3: This war will have to come to an end at
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  Speaker 3: some point. And that war in Ukraine is going to
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  Speaker 3: end through a negotiated deal. That's how it's going to end.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to end through some overwhelming military victory
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  Speaker 3: by one side or the other. It will end through
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  Speaker 3: a negotiated deal. And the sooner that happens, the less
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  Speaker 3: people have to die and the less destruction there's going
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  Speaker 3: to be. So that's what we're prepared to play a
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  Speaker 3: role in. We We had a team with Steve and
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  Speaker 3: Jared went into Moscow and then to Kiev a couple
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago and talked to them. We'll continue to stay
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  Speaker 3: engaged and searching always for the opportunity or an opening
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  Speaker 3: to make a difference and bring this thing to an end.
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  Speaker 2: President Xi at the White House coming up on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: The AI race, still the big deal between the United
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  Speaker 2: States and China. And Obescent is involved in that, too.
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  Speaker 2: Is that basically the big story behind this dinner coming up?
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  Speaker 3: I think there's more than that. Obviously, the trade issues
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  Speaker 3: are predominant. There's a lot of other issues that will
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  Speaker 3: be covered. But at the core of this is that
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  Speaker 3: no matter what our differences may be, the United States
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  Speaker 3: and China are the two largest economies in the world
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  Speaker 3: and the two most powerful countries in the world. So
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  Speaker 3: we have to communicate and be able to meet. AI
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  Speaker 3: has become a feature over the last few weeks. I
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  Speaker 3: think the whole world is concerned about it. And I
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  Speaker 3: think the challenge with AI is it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: It's already happening. So the question is, how do you
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  Speaker 3: benefit from the good things that it does and limit
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  Speaker 3: the bad things it can do or prevent the bad
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  Speaker 3: things that it can do? And this has been true
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  Speaker 3: of every new innovation in human history, right? There's positives,
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  Speaker 3: there's negatives. You try to limit the negatives and you
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  Speaker 3: try to accentuate the positives. The problem with AI is
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  Speaker 3: it's developing so fast. When we came up with nuclear energy,
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  Speaker 3: that was a static thing. I mean, the It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: changing every day. AI is changing. By the time you
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  Speaker 3: write some rules to control it, it's already changed 10 times,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in terms of new models. So that's the
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  Speaker 3: risk here. The risk is that this thing is developing
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  Speaker 3: faster than our ability to mitigate it, the damage that
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  Speaker 3: it might do and harness the benefits too. And I
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  Speaker 3: think the whole world is, but no one wants to
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  Speaker 3: be left behind either. So no one wants to be
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  Speaker 3: hurt by AI, but no country wants to be left
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  Speaker 3: behind either. So there's the tension that we're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to work through.
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  Speaker 2: Is the State Department still interested in designating CARE and
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  Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist organizations?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we've done Muslim Brotherhood branches all over the world. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the law requires us to meet certain evidentiary standards, and
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  Speaker 3: so we're always collecting. We have to have enough evidence
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  Speaker 3: because otherwise, you know, it would be a congressional challenge
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  Speaker 3: or what have you. And we've done that already. With CARE,
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  Speaker 3: it's a little different because it's a domestic organization. You
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  Speaker 3: have to find a link. Now, there are other elements
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  Speaker 3: of government that can go after them because the links
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  Speaker 3: are clear domestically. you'd have to be able to prove
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  Speaker 3: definitively that there's a foreign link. And obviously, we're always
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  Speaker 3: looking into finding any foreign links to groups that support terrorism.
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  Speaker 2: Last one you got to run. A lot of my
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  Speaker 2: friends and fans were mad at me last week because
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  Speaker 2: I went to visit J.D. Bancher at the White House.
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  Speaker 1: You know why, Marco?
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  Speaker 2: They said to me, no, no, Rubio 2028. I said, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I love Marco. I'm friends with the guy for 16 years.
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  Speaker 2: I think he'd be a phenomenal president, but I really
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  Speaker 2: think he enjoys the secretary of state job.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's not going to run.
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  Speaker 2: Are you ready, willing, and prepared right now, right here
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  Speaker 2: with me, Marco, to say I'm running for president in 2028?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nice try.
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  Speaker 3: Nice try. Actually, I've just stopped talking about that whole
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  Speaker 3: thing because I'm so bad. I mean, I say this
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  Speaker 3: is not even a job. I do have two jobs.
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  Speaker 3: They're very important jobs. That's what I spend my whole
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  Speaker 3: time focused on. I know that sounds like a political answer,
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  Speaker 3: but it happens to be the truth. I'm aware people
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  Speaker 3: are saying these things, but I really don't want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about that stuff anymore. Nothing good comes of it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm focused on my job. That's what I want to do.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I intend to do. as long as President
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  Speaker 3: Trump will have me.
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  Speaker 1: You're the best ever. Go enjoy this speech, and thank
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  Speaker 1: you for doing this. I really love you. Thank you, Marco.
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  Speaker 1: All right, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: There he is, the amazing Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.
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  Speaker 2: We got it all in in about 15 minutes. I
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  Speaker 2: know Marco was in a rush. I think the president
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  Speaker 2: speaks at 9.30.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but nobody else can do it like that. Nobody.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Like rapid fire like that. And he gave detailed answers.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I know, because he's so smart. He's so good. He's
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: so good.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: So I reached out to Nick Luna. Happened to be J.D.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Vance's chief of staff. I said, Marco's on this morning.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: When can I expect J.D.? I like to know what
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: he said.
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  Speaker 1: What the heck is going on here?