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Attack of the Killer Soundtrack: Ookla the Mok · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 10: Air defense warning read. It's time for Movie Meltdown's Attack
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  Speaker 10: of the Killers soundtrack.
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  Speaker 11: Live transmission has begun, and we're into the final.
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  Speaker 5: Hour of hell.
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  Speaker 12: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown's Attack of the
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  Speaker 12: Killers soundtrack. I'm Brian and this week we're coming to
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  Speaker 12: you live via digital recording from Conglomeration here in Louisville.
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  Speaker 12: And this time around we have two special guest co-hosts.
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  Speaker 12: And I'm going to let them build our soundtrack this episode.
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  Speaker 12: But first I thought I would give you a little
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  Speaker 12: introduction to them. They are Rand and Adam, otherwise known
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  Speaker 12: as the band Ookla the Mock, and they bill themselves
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  Speaker 12: as rock music for nerds, and that they definitely deliver.
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  Speaker 12: And while listening to them play their music laced with
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  Speaker 12: geeky pop culture references, I thought they would more than
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  Speaker 12: likely fit in perfectly on our show. So to give
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  Speaker 12: you an example of their dedication to geeky themes and references,
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  Speaker 12: I'm going to play you Song of Kong from their
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  Speaker 12: rock opera about monkeys.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, you heard me right.
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  Speaker 12: The album's called Smell No Evil, and it's awesome. I
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  Speaker 12: own it, and I encourage you to pick it up yourself.
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  Speaker 12: But in the meantime, here's a song from that album
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  Speaker 12: filled with giant movie monsters.
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  Speaker 4: Don't say you didn't mean to piss me off.
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  Speaker 13: You put cat hair in my applesauce.
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  Speaker 4: Don't say you didn't mean to cause me pain. You
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  Speaker 4: pushed me in front of a train. And you trashed
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  Speaker 4: my house. And you smashed my mouth. And you smashed
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  Speaker 4: my tires. And you ashed me.
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  Speaker 14: And you set my hair on fire.
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  Speaker 4: Why do we still hang out together? Maybe it's just
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  Speaker 4: because we.
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  Speaker 12: Whatever your odds are, I'm gonna take your key card.
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  Speaker 14: That isn't necessary Can't get along.
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  Speaker 15: But you're wrong Come on I'm King Kong.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't clean out the drain of the tub, even
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  Speaker 2: though I asked you at least three times.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not the one who left it there, I do
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  Speaker 4: the one with all the hair. Besides, you jumped up
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  Speaker 4: in the air and broke my spine. And we don't
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  Speaker 4: care where you ignite my hair. I swear to my
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  Speaker 4: judgment there. Why do we still hang out together?
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  Speaker 16: I always said to someone, maybe it's my depression, but whatever.
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  Speaker 17: Your Godzilla, I'm King Kong.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Godzilla, you're King Kong. Whatever you say, we can't
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  Speaker 4: get along. But you're wrong. I think you're coming, I'm
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  Speaker 4: too strong. Come on, I'm King Kong. I suppose the
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  Speaker 4: obvious question.
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  Speaker 11: Is why we even hang out at all.
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  Speaker 16: Maybe it's karma or fate or the fact that you're.
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  Speaker 4: The only other one I know who's free. used to
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  Speaker 4: feel like a million.
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  Speaker 14: Bucks riding around in a monster truck grab some dinner
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  Speaker 14: maybe taking a show a cup of beers.
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  Speaker 4: Crash trophy oh that was fun but it hasn't been
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  Speaker 4: the same ever since they put the.
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  Speaker 14: Word versus between our names you're.
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  Speaker 2: Probably wondering why we can't just both agree to disagree.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's due.
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  Speaker 18: To the fact that I can't even once commit a
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  Speaker 18: sentence without you interrupting.
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  Speaker 16: Whatever your gods and lords, I'm King Kong.
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  Speaker 14: You said that we could still get.
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  Speaker 4: Along, but you're wrong. Yeah, you're wrong.
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  Speaker 14: You're never too strong.
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  Speaker 4: Come on.
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  Speaker 14: I'm King.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the King. I'm the king. And I'm God.
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  Speaker 5: King Kong ain't got shit on me.
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  Speaker 12: Alright, well now you've gotten a little taste of what
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  Speaker 12: Ookla the Mock sounds like, but now we're going to
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  Speaker 12: head over and get to know the guys themselves and
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  Speaker 12: find out how all this came together. all right so
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  Speaker 12: we're here with rand and adam uh i guess otherwise
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  Speaker 12: you guys are sort of known as ukla the mock
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  Speaker 12: uh do you want to give people a heads up
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  Speaker 12: i think it's been quite a while now since this
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  Speaker 12: came together in some.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah well we've been uh uh we have been the
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  Speaker 2: band called ukla the mock for well geez it's an
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  Speaker 2: embarrassingly long time at this point over 20 years and
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  Speaker 2: uh We play at science fiction and comic book conventions primarily,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of our songs are media-based. They're about
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  Speaker 2: science fiction and comic books and so forth, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what we do.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Probably if any of you that don't regularly attend
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  Speaker 1: science fiction or comic book conventions, the way you may
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  Speaker 1: have heard of us is there was a Disney cartoon
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  Speaker 1: called Fillmore that aired initially on ABC TV on Saturday mornings.
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  Speaker 1: and we wrote the theme, wrote and performed the theme
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  Speaker 1: song for Disney's Fillmore. You could also hear us performing,
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  Speaker 1: Adam on the keyboards and me vocally, on the Gym
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  Speaker 1: Class Heroes hit song, Cupid's Chokehold. In fact, the first
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  Speaker 1: thing you hear in that song is my voice. God
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  Speaker 1: help me. Look it up.
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  Speaker 4: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: That's me.
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  Speaker 7: Bite Me Fanboy, there's a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Bite Me Fanboy. Yeah, that's right. That was... Oh, geez,
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  Speaker 1: that's good. You know, 10, 15 years ago, there was
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  Speaker 1: a fan film. Fun little indie film. Yeah, a little
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  Speaker 1: indie film called Bite Me, Fanboy, that we'd, the entire
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  Speaker 1: soundtrack was made up of our songs, and we actually
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  Speaker 1: composed a new piece that was the theme for that
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  Speaker 1: movie as well. Matt Nastos is the writer and director
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: When he contacted us and said he wanted to use
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  Speaker 2: 13 Ookla songs in it, we thought he was crazy,
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  Speaker 2: and it turns out he was, I believe.
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  Speaker 7: Most people with their geek interests get pretty crazy. Eventually.
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  Speaker 12: So I guess with everybody, I try to kind of
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  Speaker 12: touch base with where the geeky.
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  Speaker 7: Interests come into play. So I guess for you guys,
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  Speaker 7: which one took hold first?
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  Speaker 12: Was it music or comics or movies or games or
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  Speaker 12: how did all of it come together?
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  Speaker 1: Probably different for both of us. I mean, for me,
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  Speaker 1: I certainly was always really passionate about pop music. I
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  Speaker 1: had I'm one of those, my mother has a really,
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  Speaker 1: comes from a very large family, so I had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of uncles that were, you know, five and ten
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  Speaker 1: years older than me, so like just old enough to
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  Speaker 1: still be, yeah, well, old enough to like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to get you in trouble. Yeah, exactly, to play me
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  Speaker 1: Frank Zappa albums when I was four years old, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and so I was like introduced to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: like really fantastic pop music, the 60s and 70s when
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  Speaker 1: I was a really little kid, and I also loved
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  Speaker 1: comic books, and it wasn't really until I started writing
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  Speaker 1: songs that that I thought to marry those two ideas.
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  Speaker 1: Adam tells a different story.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was from a musical family. My dad is
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  Speaker 2: a music teacher and a multi-instrumentalist, and so I was
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  Speaker 2: taking music lessons on several instruments from a very young age.
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  Speaker 2: But unlike Rand, I actually never really– we weren't allowed
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  Speaker 2: to listen.
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  Speaker 1: To the radio in my house when I was a.
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  Speaker 2: Kid except for classical Because.
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  Speaker 7: It was the devil music?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't even know if it was a religious
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  Speaker 2: thing as much as a taste thing. My father imposing
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  Speaker 2: his taste on us or whatever. But I actually am
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  Speaker 2: appallingly ignorant of the canon of music. That's one of
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  Speaker 2: the reasons why Rand and I are such good collaborators
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  Speaker 2: is– We're kind of, you know, our weaknesses and strengths
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  Speaker 2: are complementary. But I definitely don't remember a time when
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't a nerd. I don't remember a time when
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  Speaker 2: I didn't love science fiction more than anything else and
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  Speaker 2: superheroes and so forth. And so I would say our
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  Speaker 2: very first songs that Rand and I wrote together were Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I would, yeah, I would say they were pretty much
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  Speaker 2: all media really, you know, you know, you don't only
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  Speaker 2: need to make a jump or two to get to.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, cause you know, they say you should write about
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  Speaker 1: what you know, and you know, we were college students
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  Speaker 1: and you know, what the hell did we know? You know? So, so,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we tended to just write, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of our writing was, uh, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a very Gen X thing too. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was referential, you know, like the song would reference,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a certain thing that we thought was interesting
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  Speaker 1: or funny.
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  Speaker 7: It's definitely of the time there.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and boy, has that not stopped.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, now it's... And the thing is, we were
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  Speaker 1: doing that and then playing in bars around. We're from Buffalo,
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  Speaker 1: New York, and we were playing kind of the bar
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  Speaker 1: and club scene, too. Not a positive reaction. And we
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  Speaker 1: were about ready to kind of give up and move
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  Speaker 1: on with our lives. And then a mutual friend of
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  Speaker 1: ours kind of took us to a science fiction convention
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  Speaker 1: and said, you know what? You know, you sit here
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  Speaker 1: in this room and play your songs and you will
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  Speaker 1: have found your tribe. And he was absolutely right. Like within,
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  Speaker 1: you know, within a month of us playing at that
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  Speaker 1: first con, we had been invited to come to other
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  Speaker 1: cons to perform. And, you know, and it just, it
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  Speaker 1: was so great to play in front of a room
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  Speaker 1: full of people that actually, you know.
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  Speaker 7: Got it.
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  Speaker 20: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 2: And it's, I also, yeah. I believe that that filk community,
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  Speaker 2: filk is the music of science fiction fandom, and it
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  Speaker 2: happens at science fiction conventions, filking. And they're a very
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  Speaker 2: demanding audience. We right away realized not only are these
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  Speaker 2: people listening, you know, as opposed to, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: were playing at bars in Buffalo, and people, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the music is just the thing that makes you shout
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  Speaker 2: to be heard over, you know, nobody's listening to the music.
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  Speaker 2: And then we'd go to these science fiction conventions. play
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  Speaker 2: in a filk circle and if I dropped a lyric
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  Speaker 2: in the second verse, as soon as I was done playing,
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  Speaker 2: everybody wanted to know, okay, now in the second verse,
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  Speaker 2: what was that lyric right before this, but right after that,
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  Speaker 2: you know? And, um, as a result, we right away
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  Speaker 2: started taking our craft very seriously and, and not cheating
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  Speaker 2: any lyrics, you know, not kind of like say, ah,
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  Speaker 2: that lyric is good enough or that melody is good enough.
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  Speaker 2: We were very, very exacting about our music right from
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  Speaker 2: the beginning and, Well, you kind of.
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  Speaker 7: Have to be with that crowd.
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  Speaker 1: Well, exactly. Nerds are very demanding.
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  Speaker 7: Being one of them, you know, we're a hardcore group.
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  Speaker 7: So it's, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And fat.
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  Speaker 7: You can't fake being in it. Well, that too. But
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  Speaker 7: you can't fake being a nerd, you know. It's like you, well,
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  Speaker 7: unless you're on Big Bang Theory.
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  Speaker 4: But otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: Only the first season. The writers of that, they hired,
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  Speaker 2: you know, definitely bona fide nerds to write it now.
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  Speaker 2: Their nerd facts are 100% now.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying.
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  Speaker 7: But they still feel a little forced. But anyway, that's
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  Speaker 7: a different. We've had that conversation a lot lately.
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  Speaker 2: Well, now, the theme song for Big Bang is by
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  Speaker 2: Barenaked Ladies, and we've been told for years that we
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  Speaker 2: sound like Barenaked Ladies. And they're actually from Toronto, which
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  Speaker 2: is right near Buffalo, and we started out right around
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  Speaker 2: the same time. Barenaked Ladies was one of only a
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  Speaker 2: couple of bands that kind of gave Rand and I
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  Speaker 2: permission to write the kind of songs that we were
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  Speaker 2: writing and to be in a band with the format
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  Speaker 2: that we have today. you know, both Rand and I were,
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  Speaker 2: before we met, were in progressive bands, really pretentious progressive bands.
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  Speaker 7: Indie rock at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, but I'm talking like the kind of prog
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  Speaker 1: rock where like, you know, my band would hit the
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  Speaker 1: stage and play three songs and it was a 90
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  Speaker 1: minute set. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: That is prog rock.
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  Speaker 2: Mine was more pretentious. We would sit in my basement
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  Speaker 2: and talk about playing that show, you know. But we had,
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  Speaker 2: you know, massive plans for, you know, double length concept
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  Speaker 2: albums and, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fans of Ookla can see the remnants of that. There's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people who, even though our music, you know,
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  Speaker 1: is not at all prog rock, but, you know, once
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  Speaker 1: in a while a fan will come up to us
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  Speaker 1: after a show and, you know, point out they can
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  Speaker 1: see the influence of, you know, Marillion or, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like they'll hear like a certain moment. And we did
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  Speaker 1: indulge ourselves. One of our albums is a rock opera.
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  Speaker 1: About monkeys. Yeah, so we have indulged that a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but that's the thing. When we first encountered bands,
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  Speaker 2: and this would be in the early 90s just after
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  Speaker 2: Rand and I got out of college, we started encountering
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  Speaker 2: bands like They Might Be Giants and Bare Naked Ladies
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  Speaker 2: that were, not only were they kind of funny, but
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  Speaker 2: also they were two front men, you know, that kind
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  Speaker 2: of neither one was the lead singer, you know, And
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  Speaker 2: that was an idea that was fairly alien.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's, I mean, obviously the Beatles and so.
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  Speaker 2: Forth, but you know, we really both, we had, I
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  Speaker 2: had considered being in a band with Rand, but I
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  Speaker 2: remember thinking, well, I'm not going to not be the
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  Speaker 2: lead singer, you know?
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  Speaker 4: There's an ego thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, absolutely. You know, we definitely, when we really first
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  Speaker 1: started writing together, we were actually living in different States.
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  Speaker 21: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And every time we'd, you know, we'd call on the
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  Speaker 1: phone and play the songs to each other, but every
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  Speaker 1: time we'd, see each other, you know, it was like
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  Speaker 1: a contest, you know, and it was, well, I'll just say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, here's my, I wrote these three songs. I
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  Speaker 1: wrote these three songs and it was, I wrote four songs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was exactly what it was. And we decided very
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  Speaker 1: early on to kind of, to all of our music
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  Speaker 1: would be published kind of like Lennon and McCartney to
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  Speaker 1: both of us. Best decision we ever made. Because what
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  Speaker 1: we didn't want to do was have a situation where
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  Speaker 1: Adam wrote this really great song, and I had an
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  Speaker 1: idea that would improve it, but I held back because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want his song to be better than mine.
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  Speaker 2: Or I didn't want to accept the idea because then
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  Speaker 2: you'd get the credit. We both, and I was thinking
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  Speaker 2: about that just earlier today, the fact that I don't
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  Speaker 2: really think anymore about, you know, when we were, well,
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  Speaker 2: even who sings what, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're right. Now we kind of, we just write
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  Speaker 1: the song and then, you know, later decide, you know,
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  Speaker 1: after it's arranged, you know, who's ideally suited to sing
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  Speaker 1: that based on the key or whatever. Really, the only
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  Speaker 1: thing we watch out for is, you know, to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that one of us doesn't become John Oates-ized or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like that.
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  Speaker 2: Art fungalized.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, you know, so, you know, what I mean
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  Speaker 1: is that, you know, when we look at an album,
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  Speaker 1: we make sure... Yeah, we look at the album and say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: if there's 12 songs, we need to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: we're each, you know, getting a piece of six of
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  Speaker 1: them so that, you know, there isn't a sense of...
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  Speaker 1: So there's that. We try to create egalitarianism in that way.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and especially writing-wise, you don't want to get into
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  Speaker 7: the police situation.
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  Speaker 10: Have you heard.
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  Speaker 12: How that breaks down? Recently they went into this statistic-wise.
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  Speaker 12: A lot of those songs, especially in the beginning, Sting
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  Speaker 12: was just kind of taking credit for things that they
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  Speaker 12: were all working on, but the other two didn't argue
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  Speaker 12: with him. And now that they've all kind of hit,
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  Speaker 12: every breath you take brings him. I think they broke
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  Speaker 12: it down to about $ 2, 000 a day comes in just
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  Speaker 12: for every breath you take.
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  Speaker 7: A good portion of it still comes from.
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  Speaker 4: That bad P.
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: Diddy sampled version, which he did not get the rights for.
• 17:47
  Speaker 12: So now all the royalties from that one also goes
• 17:50
  Speaker 12: to Sting. And if you listen to it, the only
• 17:52
  Speaker 12: thing he samples is the little Andy Summers part.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which was clearly not written by Sting.
• 17:58
  Speaker 12: Yeah, which he said, he's like, that wasn't mine. You
• 18:00
  Speaker 12: came up with it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: They were arguing over that, and Andy fought him on.
• 18:04
  Speaker 12: How to do this that way to keep that in
• 18:06
  Speaker 12: the song.
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: And now he gets no credit for that thing.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're aware, we actually wrote a
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: song about Sting called, Oh, Sting, Where Is Thy Death?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the things we touch on is that,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you know, we used to think he was so cool
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: when he was getting punched in the face, you know.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: These days he doesn't seem so cool anymore.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: Oh, no, no.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: He's still cooler than me, you know.
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: Only because he's making $ 2, 000 a day.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: One song. It's someone else's work, yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, not even counting them fighting.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Over the truth.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a great example of, like, the other
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: band I would think of is The Who, where it's like,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you know, even if Sting wrote every lyric and wrote
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: every melody, you know, the fact that when you listen
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to Sting's solo work and listen to The Police or
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: listen to Pete Townsend's solo work and listen to The Who,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it's obvious that the other band members are doing writing.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, you know, it's like,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's, like I said, listen to Message
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: in a Bottle. You know that, okay, even if Sting
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: wrote that, You know, when he presented that song to
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the police, he was strumming it on an acoustic guitar.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And like a big, huge part of what sells Mustard
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: on a Bottle is that insane guitar part that Eddie
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Summers is playing. If you've ever tried to play it,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like my fingers don't stretch wide enough to play the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: gap that he's doing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 12: And what I know about Copeland is he loves to argue.
• 19:23
  Speaker 12: So I can't imagine him ever not fighting.
• 19:25
  Speaker 10: With him on that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's it. He's the one that just constantly,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: he was like, keep your money until somebody punched you
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: in the face.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Every couple weeks. Yeah, that's all he wanted.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: That makes Stuart Copeland happy. it was cute when they
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: were on, uh, when the police were on Elvis Costello's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: spectacle talk show and they, he asked Elvis asked each
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: one of them what their favorite police song was. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: when it got to sting, he like very diplomatically said,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: it's a tie between, um, mother and migrant and ms
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: grudenko which are like mother was the song on synchronicity
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that eddie summers wrote and ms grudenko was the song
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: on synchronicity that stewart copeland wrote so yeah exactly but
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: but i mean 20 years ago sting never would.
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: Have you know what i mean he's trying a little
• 20:07
  Speaker 12: bit not much but He's trying to not get punched
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: in the face.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: The dental bills are starting to pile up. So, all right, well, yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: we can stop talking about the police.
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: But, um, well, that's, that's what I was going to
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: ask is just, you guys have always, or at least
• 20:22
  Speaker 12: now have found your home at these conventions. And when
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: you started doing this, there really wasn't the market that
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: there is now. Like had it not continued to grow,
• 20:31
  Speaker 12: do you think you would have found a place? Like
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: it was a very different market. You, you, the, The
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: two that you referenced, like, you know, They Might Be
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: Giants is one of those bands that didn't take themselves seriously.
• 20:41
  Speaker 12: That was one of those moments when they were like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: we're really good, but we also don't have to be pretentious.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: You know, we can make a joke and we can
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: still be a serious band.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Well, the music is serious even if the content is funny.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: And that's, yeah, something that, again, that Adam and I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: talked about in the early 90s is that, you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we obviously wanted, you know, the lyrics are very important
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to us. We want people to hear the lyrics. But
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: at the same time, we want someone who doesn't speak
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: English to be able to enjoy our music. You know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: like we want, we take the music seriously enough that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: hopefully there's something there as well. And, but yeah, I mean,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: one of the things that's weird is that as the,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: as you said, as that scene has grown and as
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: it's become certainly much more, you know, accepted into the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: mainstream and it's gotten bigger, something that's happened to even
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that out though is at that same, like, you know,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: if you were looking at a graph and you see
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that rising at a 45 degree angle, What's sinking at
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: a 45-degree angle is the amount of music that is
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: actually purchased versus the amount of music that is illegally downloaded.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And so really, as far as sales, the increase of interest,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: like in other words, while the number of humans on
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Earth that listen to Ugo the Mock has increased dramatically
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: over the last 20 years, the number of sales has
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: not increased to track that.
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: Um, like most bands, I guess at that point you
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: just bank on t-shirts. You just, it's hard to download
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: a t-shirt.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And the thing, and that's also why, you know, again,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: bands like Barenaked Ladies and The Maybe Giants, you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: most of their money is coming from television. You know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: The Maybe Giants obviously had the muck in the middle. Also,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the Daily Show theme is by The Maybe Giants. Well,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of money they're getting. That show airs,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you know, five times a day, five days a week.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And that's, we, you know, um, We still do get
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: royalty checks for our Disney... For our.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Fillmore, yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: For Fillmore, but boy, they sure aren't much anymore. But
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it was nice money when that was playing on network
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: TV once a week, and that's once a week on
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Saturday morning, and you make more royalties for prime time.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: The show ran two seasons. If it would have run
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: one more season, it would have gone into syndication.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: That's when you continue for the.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Rest of your life. My favorite thing about the... You
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: can parenthetically talk about the the contract that we had
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: to sign from Disney for film. Well, yeah, but my
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: favorite thing about it, there was a clause that said,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in signing this contract, Adam and I had to give
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: up our likeness rights. And that means that if the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: cartoon Fillmore became so popular that they decided to make
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: an action figure of the guys that wrote the theme song,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't get any of that money.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: That's a pretty popular show right there.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And there was a clause that said, if the show
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is so popular that it becomes a ride... and they
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: use our theme song to attract people to the ride,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: we get X percent of, you know.
• 23:24
  Speaker 14: Well, it was interesting.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It's out of everything.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Some of the stuff that we gave up rights for,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: like if they ever put out a DVD, we don't
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: get anything. You know, it's an interesting world, and we,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Which, going back to They Might Be Giants, that's why, like,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: you'll never, you notice you don't see Malcolm in the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Middle on DVD?
• 23:40
  Speaker 22: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Part of the reason is because, you know, that was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: a show that those contracts were signed before DVD was.
• 23:47
  Speaker 22: Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: A thing and now like bands like the movie giants
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and all the other musicians that sold songs to them
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: they don't want to give up you know and the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: people that make malcolm in the middle don't want to
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: pay them and so you just never see it it's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: going to stream forever but it'll never come out on
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: dvd because they can stream it and get away.
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: With that pain because again that wasn't in existence right
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: either so they found a loophole yeah there's a lot
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: of those like all those old mtv shows that they
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: used to just run whatever was popular A few of them,
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: like Daria and stuff, they had to go back and
• 24:16
  Speaker 12: replace the music with generic, whatever they could come up with.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: WKRP in Cincinnati is unwatchable at DVD because they used
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: all these popular songs. And normally, like you said, they'd
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: swap it out with generic rock and roll. But because
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the show was about a radio station.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: It's ambient.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Telling you who it is, yeah. No, what's not to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: say he's telling you. They recorded the songs ambiently live
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: with the dialogue. So when they cut the song, they
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just cut the whole scene. So like each 22-minute episode
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: is actually 16 minutes on DVD because they've cut, you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: like a whole, and they put out the first season
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and they said, well, we're not going to put out
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: any more seasons because no one bought it. It's like, well, no,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: no one bought it because you didn't, you know, they're like,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: we're not going to pony up and pay with music
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: rights because no one will buy it, but it's, you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the snake eating itself, you know.
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: They must have always been worried about that kind of,
• 25:05
  Speaker 12: cause actually I just saw one they were playing recently
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: and he, um, I think it's Venus fly traps wearing
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: the Cincinnati jacket.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: It's like a red jacket.
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: I mean, it's a very iconic, it's got the, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: Cincinnati and the O or the I at the end
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: is changed to an O like with duct tape or something,
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: because I guess that's a specific licensed image to the
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: baseball team. So I'm like, either that far back they
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: were planning ahead or they, did they digitally.
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: Go in and change it? Like it looked, yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Licensing rights are, I, I'll, you know, all of that
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: trademarks of it's, it's very baffling to the layman. Um,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I thought, I think one of the most interesting, um,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: things about the way the Disney deal happened for us
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: was before we ever heard about this, here's how it went. Uh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: actually Rand, um, had made me aware that, now this
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: was back in the days when someone ordered one of
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: our CDs. We used to take the CD and put
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: it in an envelope and write their name on it
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: and send it to them in the mail. And Rand
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: had made me aware that there was a person that
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: had bought, that was buying all of our CDs, whose
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: name Rand had recognized because on account of he's a
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: freak for memory and other things too, but memory freakness
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: is what we're, you know, Specifically addressing now. But the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: guy was– he had edited the Simpsons episode guides and
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: his name was Scott M. Gimple and he was buying
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: our CDs. Well, one day we get a call from Disney.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And they're interested in talking about purchasing a piece of
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: our music for, it turns out, Scott is, I believe
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: he was like the youngest executive producer in the history
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: of Disney.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he created the show.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: And he had this new show and he wanted to
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: use a piece of our music for the theme song.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And that little boy that no one loves grew up
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, Scott M.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Gimple is currently the showrunner for The Walking Dead.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: But I keep telling him. Like someone needs to be
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: devoured to one of our songs. You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: But the really interesting thing about that is before we
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: ever knew anything about it, here's how the story went. Scott,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the show that they were doing was kind of a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: spoof of a 70s cop show. And so he wanted
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: like some chase music. And it so happens that we
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: had done a piece of like spoofy 70s cop music
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: chase music. And he wanted to use that as the theme.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So when the producers at Disney said, or the executives
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: at Disney said, so what do you want to use
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: for your theme song? He said, well, I have this
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: piece of music by a band I like, and I'd
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: like to use that. And they said, okay, we'll hire
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: someone to rip that off. And they actually had a.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: They probably didn't use those words.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Well, but this is how this is done in this industry.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: It's not Disney.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: It's everybody, you know. So what they did was they
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: brought in a musician who, you know, did a version
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: of the song that was, you know, if I had
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: heard that piece of music, I've heard it because they
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: actually use it as, like, background music on there. If
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I had heard it, I would have been like, huh,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: that's a little bit like that. But it would never
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: have occurred to me that they actually heard that and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: stole it, you know. But Scott, when they presented him
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: with the, you know, legally un- legally distinguishable version of it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: He was like, well, you know, I really like the
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: version by those Ookla guys better.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: You'd already cut, like, you'd cut, like, a piece of
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the opening to our music so we could show them,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And they said.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: Is that just so they could not get away with
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: not paying you guys?
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Well, yes and no.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Disney, you know, they... with the, you know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the way they work is they want to own the music.
• 28:58
  Speaker 19: Oh yeah.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Everything.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: They've learned their lessons over the years. And the problem is,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the problem was that the piece that Scott wanted to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: use was from a song that was already in an
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: album that we had released. And so they were reluctant
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to work with us because that meant that they not
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: only had to pay us everything they would have to
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: pay someone, they would also have to pay to purchase
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the copyright so it would cost more money than they wanted.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Disney likes to do things, not just, again,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: not just Disney, this is.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: But they like to produce their music in-house where it's
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: work for hire where someone creates the music for them
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: while they're being paid a salary to do so.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: And then it belongs to Disney.
• 29:39
  Speaker 23: Totally right.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: Disney.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: It's smart, I'm sure, from their perspective. But I just
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: think it's crazy that if Scott had said, oh, that
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: sounds great, we would never have even known that we essentially,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: in essence, wrote a theme song for a Disney cartoon.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: But they called us up, and it turns out we were,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: you know, cheap.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: We were available.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: Disney is hurting for cash. Yeah, exactly.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, and it was nice because we ended up,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you know, we actually made it out, you know, doing
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: several trips to the West Coast to, like, kind of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: seal the deal. But, you know, and we, you know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: we certainly weren't, you know, it wasn't, like, quit your
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: job money, but it was don't worry about your car
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: payments for a while money. And, you know, we were
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: able to use it to hire, you know, a real
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: producer to work on our next record and, And it
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: really just, we learned a lot about the music industry
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: just taking that money and we kind of bought a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: lot of knowledge, if you will. And so now we're
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: able to, our last couple of records we've done on
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: our own, and we never would have had the confidence
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to really, you know, do that kind of level of
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: production on our own if we hadn't paid to work
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: with a real, you know, legitimate producer. So all because
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of Disney.
• 30:50
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, that was a once in a lifetime, well,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I hope not, but that was a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had a couple of close calls. We've done
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: music for a couple of VH1 pilots that never got chosen.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: So we've had a couple of things like that. And
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: we've done a lot of indie films have used, what
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: was the movie called, Because You Demanded It? That was
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a little, I don't know if you've ever seen that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It's a short. It's really a well-done short, and it
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: won a couple of, kind of small film festival awards,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and it used pretty much the riff from a song
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: of ours called Superpowers is used incessantly throughout the short film.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: It's like the only piece of music is this eight-bar
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: riff just used over and over again.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: You're the theme.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: They pretty much turned it into a score, which was interesting.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's always fun. Actually, on our newest record,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: we took out a Creative Commons license recently, so that,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you know, just, you know, anyone that wants to use,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you know, if you want to make a video for
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: our song, that's great. If you want to use the music.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Explain for listeners that don't know how Creative Commons works.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, I certainly encourage you to
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: look it up on the Internet to, you know, to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: learn more. But, yeah, in a nutshell, a Creative Commons
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: license means that anyone, you know, the license we've taken
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: out means anyone that wants to use our music in
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: any way, you know, either to sample it or to,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: like I said, make a video for it, or to
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: use it in their film soundtracks, is welcome to do
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: so as long as two things occur. One is that
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: we get full credit, that it's clear that we own
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the piece, that it's credited to us, and that they
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: are free to do whatever they want with it until
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the moment that the piece of art that they've created
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: makes money. A Creative Commons license does not supersede a copyright.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: What it means is that you don't need to ask
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: our permission to use it, But if you use it
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and then suddenly someone comes to you and gives you
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: a big heap of money for that movie, then you
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: need to talk to us and renegotiate before you can.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: So as long as we get credit and you're not
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: making any money off it, have at it. And the
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: big proponent of this who is an acquaintance of ours
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: is Jonathan Colton, who you've probably heard of. And he
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: says that everything good that's happened to him is because
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: you know, he allowed his fans to make videos of
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: his stuff, and that's what promoted him on YouTube, and
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that really got him out there, so.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: No, actually, I'm, you know, Rand is the librarian in
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the group, and I mean that literally. He is a
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: librarian for his profession, and so you're the one who
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: knows more about it than I do.
• 33:32
  Speaker 14: Can....
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: You know, we released our new album under Creative Commons.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Is our old catalog also under Creative Commons, or do
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: we have.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: To specifically license it? I mean, if I just announce
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it right now and say all of our catalog is
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: on Creative Commons, it is. Can we do that? Yeah. Well, no,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: we just did.
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: That's an official announcement.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, or we can just put it
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: on our website and say that. I mean, in the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: same way that you don't need to do anything, all
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you need to do to have something copywritten is.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: create it.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, create it. There's nothing you legally need to do
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to copyright it.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: It's only when you get into the fight later.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Well, that's funny because our first quote album, end quote,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: was a 16-song demo tape, essentially. We had written our
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: first songs and we were scared we'd die in a
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: car accident before anybody got to hear them, so we
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: recorded a very primitive recording of the two of us
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: playing the songs live. And We called the album Poor
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Man's Copyright, which was somebody had told us that if
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: we took our album, put it on our songs, recorded them,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: and put them on tape and mailed them to ourselves
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: in a sealed envelope.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: You have to have it like, what's the word? Notarized. Notarized, yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: All of those.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: And so we did that. And didn't we, like, auction
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: off the original?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's still, like, it's probably still, like,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you know, at my parents' house because I mailed it
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to them. It's probably still in a vault somewhere. That
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: would be funny to take that.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably still sealed in its envelope.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Because I think, you know, the concept is it's like
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: most things with copyright and fair use that, you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: it's all up to debate. But, you know, the idea
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: is that if you have something that's obviously, you know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: notarized and stamped with a specific date, then obviously anyone
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that claims to have created it after that date is
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: going to have a harder time proving it. And that's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the idea, but it's not really binding in any magic way.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Well, no, but it does. As you say, all you
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: have to do is create something, but you have to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: be able to prove you created it before somebody else
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: steals it. We've had a couple of interesting little, like, and,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: you know, it's, like I say, with the Disney thing,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: we would never have known, so it makes you think.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: And we had.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Like we had written a song many, many years ago
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: called Medieval Evil Knievel. And we used to perform it
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: at science fiction conventions and there were, you know, people
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: had videotaped it and it was online back in the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: very early days of the internet.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: We also did it on TV, if you remember.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: We did it on.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: We performed it with Lyle in costume.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: That's right, on a public access show. But we used
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to do a show. We had a friend of ours,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: we made a costume for the character Medieval Evil Knievel
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and We used to do this Medieval Evel Knievel stunt show,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: and it was just fun and silly. But then years later,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: there was a, I believe it was a Diet Dr. Pepper,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: or Diet Mountain Dew was one of those two, commercial
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: that had Medieval Knievel, and they had the exact costume
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: that we had made. And they did a very elaborate,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: big-budget version of the video that we did, and it
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: was That was distressing to see, but I'll tell you something.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: It could be that somebody saw it and just stole it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: It could also be that a lot of these ideas,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: they're kind of low-hanging fruit. They're ideas that are kind
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: of hanging around in the zeitgeist waiting for somebody to...
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: The costume that we did was medieval Evel Knievel, so
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: it's a suit of armor, and the guy's wearing a
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: white tunic that's the Evel Knievel... And then he wears
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the Evel Knievel motorcycle helmet, but with a big plume
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: out of the top and a shield that says Medieval
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Evel Knievel. And that is exactly what the costume.
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: Was in the commercial.
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: And I think we don't realize sometimes how much of
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: pop culture just seeps into our brains.
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: Because there is stuff that I'll be like, oh, that's
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: a great idea.
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: And then later I'll see, oh, wait, that's where I
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: knew that was a great idea from.
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: And luckily I didn't do anything with it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of like when we did a show
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: at a pretty big comic con And we put posters
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: all over the con announcing our, you know, the concert.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: And that year. And we said, well, and we, you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: we put across the front of the full frontal nerdity.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: That year we called our tour the full frontal nerdity tour.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And, you know, there's a fairly popular comic book creator
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: named Eric Larson who was at that, you know, at
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: that particular show. And like six months later, he released
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a new comic called Full Frontal Nerdy. And I'm not
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: saying that he saw that and said, I'm going to
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: steal that. It may have occurred to him in his
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: sleep three days later because he saw the poster.
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: Or, I mean, it may be like someone was at
• 38:13
  Speaker 12: your show and saw it and then mentioned it to
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: their friend and then mentioned it to their.
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: Friend and then made its way into the background.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: We know that he saw that because he was at
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: the convention where we had this. So we know for
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: sure he saw that. Because those posters were all over
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the convention. And then six or eight months later or
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: something like that, out comes this comic book.
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: Maybe he just sat at home with the flyer going,
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: this is a great idea.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing. A lot of times you'll
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: see something and you'll be like, well, I can steal
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: that because those guys– who are those guys? You know
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: what I mean? I can– like people will– decide to
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: steal something because they don't think you're a big enough
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: deal that they'll ever get caught. No one will have
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: ever heard of that. Well, but we read comic books
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: and we, you know, we're fans of his, you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: sort of, of his comics. And, you know, so of
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: course we were going to see it. But what are
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you going to do?
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: I don't think that's getting harder and harder to do today.
• 39:07
  Speaker 12: Because now everybody's like YouTube videoing everything. So it's like
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: you could almost be like, well, this has a time
• 39:13
  Speaker 12: stamp on it from three years ago.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So obviously these.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: Guys were doing it before.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Well, this happened like in the 90s. I think if
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it happened today, there would be a snarky nerd on a,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you know, go to Newsarama.com and say, can you believe
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that they, you know what I mean? Lame. Yeah, so.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: Lame.
• 39:41
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• 40:04
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• 40:08
  Speaker 4: All games considered. With news. Now we have a press release.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: Views.
• 40:12
  Speaker 16: The fiction I know is not everyone's cup of tea.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: But this one is pretty creepy.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I like it. Reviews.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me as much because you're not worried
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: about the weapons tables because there aren't any.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: And interviews.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Sean Patrick Fannin.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Greg Paline from Microtactics Incorporated.
• 40:28
  Speaker 10: I'm Andy Chambers with Games Workshop.
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: On tabletop games, visit us at agcpodcast.info. That's agcpodcast.info.
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: He was the wizard of a thousand kings. And I
• 40:52
  Speaker 13: chanced to meet him one night wandering.
• 40:57
  Speaker 12: So as I said, we've been to the Chicago Wizard
• 41:00
  Speaker 12: World before, so they've got quite a few.
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: They've got a lot.
• 41:05
  Speaker 12: They're all over the country.
• 41:06
  Speaker 14: That's what I was going to say.
• 41:07
  Speaker 12: Since they're inviting us to hang around here, I thought
• 41:10
  Speaker 12: we would go ahead and give the rundown. That's the
• 41:13
  Speaker 12: difference with this one is it's not just in one city.
• 41:15
  Speaker 12: It's something they've done kind of everywhere now. They've sort
• 41:18
  Speaker 12: of taken over, so... You can go to wizardworld.com and
• 41:22
  Speaker 12: find out where they are in the near future. The
• 41:24
  Speaker 12: rundown of the upcoming ones, St. Louis will be in April,
• 41:28
  Speaker 12: Minneapolis in May. The end of May into June is Atlanta.
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: You've got Philadelphia after that, San Antonio, back to Chicago, Richmond.
• 41:37
  Speaker 12: So it's like anywhere in this general part of the country,
• 41:40
  Speaker 12: you know, the United States.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Are you stopping at Richmond because we've got more to go?
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, there's plenty.
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
• 41:46
  Speaker 24: Nashville, Austin, Ohio.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Like how Ohio was just generalized.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: You know, that state.
• 41:51
  Speaker 12: But anyway, yes, you can go to wizardworld.com and find
• 41:54
  Speaker 12: out where the next show will be near you. You
• 41:56
  Speaker 12: should definitely go.
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: Come hang out. That's what we're doing.
• 42:00
  Speaker 22: Definitely check out wizardworld.com for all of your wizard world
• 42:04
  Speaker 22: type needs.
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: Hey there, this is John Doe. You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: Glad you are, because otherwise you'd be wasting your time
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: playing some stupid video game.
• 42:32
  Speaker 14: 96 tears through 24 hours.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Sex once every hour.
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: So we've gotten to know the guys a little bit,
• 43:02
  Speaker 12: and we've heard some fascinating stories about their experiences in
• 43:05
  Speaker 12: the industry. But now we're going to get into the
• 43:08
  Speaker 12: song picks for this week. And we're going to bust
• 43:10
  Speaker 12: out a double barrel blast of the Killer Five. So
• 43:14
  Speaker 12: we're actually going to bounce back and forth between the
• 43:16
  Speaker 12: two of them to get all their picks.
• 43:18
  Speaker 10: I wasn't going to say anything, but it was like
• 43:20
  Speaker 10: crazy energy flying back and forth between you guys.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: It was like, whoa, look out.
• 43:24
  Speaker 12: So this time we're going to double up on the
• 43:25
  Speaker 12: five and, as usual, put together an interesting and eclectic soundtrack.
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: It's time for the Killer Five.
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: But yeah, we can go ahead and get into.
• 43:40
  Speaker 12: We do the Killer Five, so we let our guests
• 43:42
  Speaker 12: pick five songs that were from a soundtrack or just
• 43:46
  Speaker 12: featured in a movie that you either really like or
• 43:49
  Speaker 12: had an effect on you when you were a kid
• 43:51
  Speaker 12: or however you came to find them.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Why don't we do it in this way, Rand? Why
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: don't you list... Your first pick? No, list one of
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: your picks and then I'll do it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: Back to fighting over stuff.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm going to talk just because I'm a
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: nerd and I like to have things organized. It's easier
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to just think like that, so I'm just going to
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: talk about Wes Anderson films. One of the things, real quick,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: one of the things, I've been a Wes Anderson fan
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: since Bottle Rocket came out, and around right at the
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: moment that he released Rushmore, there was an article, I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: think it was an Esquire, and they asked like six
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: different movie critics, who's the 21st century Martin Scorsese? And they,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Smith, David O. Russell, you know, P.T. Anderson,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the Machowski brothers, all these different critics said that. And
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: then they asked Martin Scorsese, who's the next Martin Scorsese?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: And he said, Wes Anderson. And only having seen Bottle
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Rocket and Rushmore, and What he talked about, the two
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: things he talked about that I really respond to, one
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: is the idea that he doesn't make movies with villains.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Even the people that behave badly are still given a
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: degree of empathy and a degree of humanity. And he
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: said that's very much like me. And he also said,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: you know, he essentially said no one, you know, he's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the first film director who sends me to incorporate popular
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: music into the films as well as I do it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I think he's absolutely correct about that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 15: That's high praise.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And exactly. It's funny. At the end of the article,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: it was like Roger Ebert is the film critic for
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the Chicago Sun-Times. And, you know, Jay Holberman is the
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: film critic for The New Yorker. And it was like
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese is Martin Scorsese. I remember it said that
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: at the end of the– Martin Scorsese. But to start, like, yeah,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: to me, he uses pop songs, you know, in key
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: moments in the movie that just– like, for instance, in
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Rushmore– I'll talk about two quick moments. One is when
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray and Jason Schwartzman's characters are trying to kill
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: each other. And during that whole sequence, he uses the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: lengthy passage from the end of The Who's A Quick
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: One While He's Away, where it's just all four members
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: of The Who singing You Are Forgiven.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Your speed, your crying is a well-known sound.
• 46:27
  Speaker 24: Your speed is very well known throughout your town. Your
• 46:35
  Speaker 24: town is very famous for the little girl. Her crying
• 46:42
  Speaker 24: can be heard all around the world.
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: .
• 47:56
  Speaker 17: .
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: .
• 48:07
  Speaker 14: .
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: .
• 48:16
  Speaker 25: La-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la. La-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la. La-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la.
• 48:35
  Speaker 17: We have a remedy, fa-la-la-la-la-la We have a remedy, fa-la-la-la-la-la
• 48:43
  Speaker 17: We have a remedy, fa-la-la-la-la-la We have a remedy, fa-la-la-la-la-la
• 48:51
  Speaker 17: We have.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: A remedy, fa-la-la-la-la-la.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Little girl, why don't you stop your crying?
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna make you feel all right. My name is Ivar.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: My name is Ivor, I'm an engine.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: Driver I know him well, I know.
• 49:28
  Speaker 26: Why you feel blue Just cause he's late, don't mean
• 49:34
  Speaker 26: he'll never get through He told me.
• 49:38
  Speaker 20: He loves to eat no lye in Tyra. So let's
• 49:43
  Speaker 20: have a smile for an old engine driver. So let's
• 49:53
  Speaker 20: have a smile for an old engine driver.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Me take a sweet take a sweet come take.
• 50:11
  Speaker 21: A walk with me you'll sock it out sock it
• 50:14
  Speaker 21: out back at my place maybe you'll come right you ain't.
• 50:18
  Speaker 26: No fool I ain't either so why not be nice
• 50:22
  Speaker 26: to an old engine driver better be nice to.
• 50:31
  Speaker 14: An old engine driver.
• 50:35
  Speaker 21: Better be nice.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: To an old engine.
• 50:52
  Speaker 14: Driver We'll soon be home We'll soon be home.
• 51:04
  Speaker 27: We'll soon, we'll soon, soon, soon be home. We'll soon
• 51:15
  Speaker 27: be home. We'll soon be home. We'll soon, soon, soon,
• 51:23
  Speaker 27: soon be home.
• 51:35
  Speaker 14: Come on home. Soon we'll be home. Soon we'll be home. Soon, soon, soon,
• 51:43
  Speaker 14: soon we'll be home.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: We'll soon, soon, soon, soon be home.
• 52:05
  Speaker 14: .
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: .
• 52:10
  Speaker 14: .
• 52:40
  Speaker 15: .
• 53:05
  Speaker 14: I can't believe.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: That I'm with you.
• 53:19
  Speaker 28: Baby I missed you and I must admit I kissed
• 53:24
  Speaker 28: a few and once did sit On either the engine
• 53:29
  Speaker 28: driver's lap .
• 53:31
  Speaker 17: .
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: .
• 53:52
  Speaker 14: You are forgiven You are forgiven You
• 54:19
  Speaker 14: are forgiven.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: It's just such an interesting thing because it's clearly, you know,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: like they're trying to kill, like literally kill each other.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: You know, like piping in bees in his room and
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: running over his bicycle and all this horrible stuff. And
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: it's the having that you are forgiven. And the other
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: moment is when they're like running through the, there's a
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: quick shot of them running in tandem, you know, through
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the factory to Oh Yoko by John Lennon. It always
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: makes me happy. I'll shut up and let Adam talk now.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, it's interesting that you picked that one. My
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: first pick is very similar. It's I'm Going to Go
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Back There Someday that Gonzo sings in the first Muppet movie.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: It's very emotional in the way that he chooses. Yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: because he's singing with longing and yearning about the unknown
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: place of his origin.
• 55:15
  Speaker 29: This looks familiar.
• 55:24
  Speaker 30: Vaguely Almost unreal yet It's too soon to feel yet
• 55:36
  Speaker 30: Close to my soul and.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: Yet so far away I'm going.
• 55:45
  Speaker 11: To go back there someday Sun rises, night falls Sometimes
• 55:59
  Speaker 11: the sky calls Is that a song there? Do I
• 56:07
  Speaker 11: belong there? I've never been there But I know the
• 56:16
  Speaker 11: way I'm going.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: To go back.
• 56:20
  Speaker 11: There someday Come and go with me. It's more fun
• 56:31
  Speaker 11: to share.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: We'll both be.
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: Completely at home in midair.
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: We're flying, not walking on featherless wings.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: We can hold on to love.
• 56:52
  Speaker 11: Like invisible strings.
• 57:01
  Speaker 29: There's not a word yet For old friends who've just
• 57:09
  Speaker 29: met Part heaven, part space.
• 57:14
  Speaker 11: Or have I found my place? You can just visit
• 57:23
  Speaker 11: But I plan to stay. I'm going to go back
• 57:31
  Speaker 11: there someday. I'm going to go back there someday.
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: You seem to be pretty excited about the Olympics. Is
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: it a long-running thing? Because I am too.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Who doesn't like the Muppets?
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: It's been suggested that my love for the Muppets might be, you.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Know, pathological.
• 58:00
  Speaker 12: I may or may not have puppets at my house
• 58:02
  Speaker 12: right now waiting to film them.
• 58:03
  Speaker 19: Anyway, go ahead.
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: I've said too much.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, other key moments.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: And I can't explain this, but The moment in The
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou when the main character finds
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: out that he's a father and he has an adult
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: child that he didn't know about. And it's toward the
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: beginning of the film and the music of Life on
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Mars has been bubbling under the surface. But just like
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: the chords and you don't really hear any of the text.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: And he just kind of turns to everyone he's with
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: and he says, I need a few moments alone. And
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: he just walks the entire length of his ship And
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: as he's walking, the moment he starts walking, the lyrics
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: burst in, and it's sailors fighting in the dance halls.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: For some reason, it's just an oddly emotional moment in
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the midst of that movie.
• 58:56
  Speaker 14: Sailors fighting in the dance halls.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: Oh man, look at those game and go. It's the
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: freakiest show.
• 59:10
  Speaker 12: Take a look at the lowdown.
• 59:13
  Speaker 31: Feeding off the wrong guy.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, man, wonder if you'll ever know. Who's in the best.
• 59:23
  Speaker 14: Of the show?
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: Is there life on Mars? It's on America's tortured brow.
• 59:53
  Speaker 23: That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow.
• 59:58
  Speaker 19: Now the workers have struck for fame.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 23: Because Lennon's on sale again See the mice in their
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 23: million hoards From Ibiza to the Norfolk Broads Blue Britannia
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 23: is out of bounds To my mother, my dog.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 31: And clowns But the film is a sad thing for
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 31: Cause I wrote it ten times or more It's about
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 31: to be written again.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: As I ask her to vote for.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 14: Some sailors fighting in the dance hall.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 23: Oh man, look at those cavemen go.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: It's the creepiest show.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 14: Take a look at the long man cleaning up the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 14: wrong guy Oh man, wonder if he'll ever know.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Is there no best-selling show? Is there life on.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: Mars?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 14: Is there life on Mars?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: And a similar moment in Royal Tenenbaums is after Alec
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Baldwin does the whole introductory monologue, he's the character that's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: played by Luke Wilson.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 29: Yeah.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: And as a kid, he's got the falcon on his
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: wrist and he just says, go Mordecai. And then the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: choir comes up on Hey Jude. And again, just weirdly,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: the perfect musical moments in these films are just astonishing
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: See, you had pointed out that the emotion from that
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: really has nothing.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: To do with the lyrics because it's.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: All about the music. I would argue that most great
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: score or soundtrack moments it's the music that gives you
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: the emotion. It's very rarely the lyrics that people are.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's true when some things are scored,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying usually when you're using an existing song,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying, you know what I mean?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Usually at that point, if it's a pop song, it's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: usually about the text.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: But I would point out, the chorus comes up on
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Hey Jude, and they're singing, the lyric they're singing is, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Which brings me to my next pick, ma-na, ma-na. from
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: The Muppet Show, which also achieves its appeal without specific lyrics.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 12: Aha, so I bet you're thinking we're straying off into.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: TV music again.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 10: You might think that.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: But the more you find out about that song, the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 12: more interesting it gets. Yes, it is mostly identified with
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 12: Jim Henson and has reappeared throughout his Muppet history.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 16: This is a narrative of very heavy-duty proportions.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 12: Now, it was first performed in a Henson production on
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 12: Sesame Street. But the most famous Muppet rendition of it
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 12: was that same year in 1969 when it debuted on
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 12: the Ed Sullivan Show. Now considering they only had a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 12: couple of TV channels to choose from and most of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 12: America watched Ed Sullivan every week, there's a good chance
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 12: that that is the main way it began to weave
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 12: its way into pop culture. So a version of that
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 12: skit was restaged many times on different variety shows over
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 12: the years, and was still so beloved by Henson and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 12: his fans that it was actually featured as the opening
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 12: number in the premiere episode of The Muppet Show. But
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 12: long before that, in fact the year before it began
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 12: appearing on these family-friendly shows here in America, the song
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 12: made its initial appearance in a movie entitled Sweden, Heaven
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 12: and Hell. It was styled as a documentary about Scandinavian sexuality,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 12: which they would delve into topics like lesbian nightclubs, porn films,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 12: swinging married couples, and educating teenagers in the ways of sex.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 12: Plus some fun additions like drug addiction, alcoholism, and suicide.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 12: All that seems like a perfect segue into The Muppets, right?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, maybe not.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: But however Jim came across it, it.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 12: Was originally written by Piero Emiliani, an Italian composer known
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 12: for his film scores, specifically many exploitation.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: Films of the 60s and 70s.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 12: So to stick with our movie music, we're actually going
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 12: to listen to the version from the original film's soundtrack.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Which surprisingly.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 12: is.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: Very similar to the version we've all come to know
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: and love.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 32: .
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 33: .
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: .
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: .
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: .
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 14: I always thought that should have been the theme song
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 14: to that John Travolta movie.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: Phenomenon. Phenomenon. They did bring that one back.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 14: Did you see the attempted reboot that they did?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: It was what? Of the John Travolta movie?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 7: Thank God they haven't done that.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 12: No, when they brought that Muppet show back again, before
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 12: the movie, it was somewhere like early 2000s, it seems like.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 12: They attempted to do it, and it only made it
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 12: about four episodes or so. But one of those four,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 12: their guest star, they worked in Sandra Bullock doing a
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 12: version of Menomina, which I thought is kind of fun.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: You've got to kind of love Sandra Bullock. She's America's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: sweetheart still, right?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 12: So it was interesting watching her with Muppets because she
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 12: does seem kind of fun, so she got it.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: And she sort of worked with them really well.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 12: But watching her do, I can't hear it normally now
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 12: without watching her do Monopoly.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 14: And now, ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to take you
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 14: to a psychiatrist's office in a sketch we called The
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 14: Psychiatrist's Office.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: Man, who wrote this stuff?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 22: Please come in, Mr.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 18: Frog.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: That'll be $ 100.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 34: But I haven't said anything yet.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: Yes, you did, just now.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'll pay on the way out.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: Then it'll be $ 150.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 32: Please, have a seat.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 19: Here? Yes.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: So what seems to be the problem?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 34: Well, Doctor, I see these strange creatures every time I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 34: say the word phenomena.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: Phenomena.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: Phenomena.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Phenomena.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: It's the strangest thing I've ever seen.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 22: Do you mind if I try it?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: Phenomena.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Phenomena.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 22: Phenomena.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 14: .
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: .
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 31: .
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: .
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: .
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: .
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 19: .
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 11: phenomena.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 22: Phenomena phenomena phenomena.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 34: Boy, you sure are crazy.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 19: You should see what happens when I say shave and
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 19: a haircut.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: Two bits.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 34: Wow, that was worth a hundred bucks.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 35: 150.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Actually, America's new sweetheart is Lady Gaga.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Now I have to leave him here. I need a
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: fifth one, don't I? I thought you were on number three.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I've been doubling up. What? Yeah, I'll double up each time. Okay,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: this time we'll do two moments from Royal Tenenbaums and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: then I'll be done. Gwyneth Paltrow walking in slow motion
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: to that Nico song, whose name I can't remember, and
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: the lengthy passage of when Luke Wilson was contemplating suicide
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: to Elliot Smith's Needle in the Hay. It's pretty iconic.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 19: Your hand on his arm A stacked charm.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: Around your neck.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 19: Strung out and thin Calling some friend Trying to cash
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 19: some check He's acting dumb That's what you've come to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 19: expect Needle in.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: The hay Needle in the hay Needle in the hay.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Needle in the hay.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 14: He's wearing your clothes, head down to toes, a reaction
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 14: to you.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: You say you know.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 19: What he did, but you idiot kid, you don't have
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 19: a clue. Sometimes they just get caught in the eye,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 19: you're pulling them through.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 9: Needle in the hay, needle in the hay, needle in
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 9: the hay, needle in the hay.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 14: Thank you.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 19: Down the bus, nearly touching this dirty retreat. Falling out,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 19: six-hand pallet, dead sweat in my teeth. Gonna walk, walk, walk,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 19: four more blocks, plus the one in my brain. Down, downstairs,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 19: to the man, he's gonna make it all okay. I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 19: can't be myself, I can't be myself, and I don't
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 19: wanna talk.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: Taking the cure so I can be quiet wherever I want.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: So leave me alone.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 19: You ought to be proud that I'm getting good marks.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: You're in the haze.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 22: You have no idea what I'm.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Talking about, Dan. I'm sorry, I wasn't listening.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, keep going. I can do more, so keep going.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: No, I'll just lump my last three together. My last
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: three picks would be Manor Muppet from The Muppets.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 33: I reflect on my reflection And I ask myself the
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 33: question What's the right direction to go?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 18: Am I a man Or am I a muppet Am
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 18: I a muppet If I'm a muppet Then I'm a
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 18: very manly.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: Muppet Very manly muppet Am I a muppet.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 18: Muppet Or am I a man Am I a man.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 9: If I'm a man That makes me a muppet of
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 9: a man A.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Muppet of a man I look into these eyes.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 19: And I don't recognize The one I see inside.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: It's time for me to decide.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Am I a.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 14: Man Or am I a puppet.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: If I'm a muppet, well I'm a very manly.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 9: Muppet Am I a muppet?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Or am I a man?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 9: If I'm a man, that makes me a muppet of
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 9: a man.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: Here I go again, I'm always running out of time
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: I think I've made up my mind.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 14: Now I understand who I am. I'm a man.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: I'm a man. I'm a man.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: I'm a man.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 14: I'm a man.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: That's what.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 9: I am.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: It would be I Can Get You What You Want
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: from the new, from the Muppets.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 10: Muppets Most Wanted.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Muppets Take Hostages.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Muppets Most Wanted.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: And, you know, in justification, I would say, like, in
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: the Muppets Most Wanted, for those of you that haven't
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: seen it, go see it immediately.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: It's just fantastic. And I have a new favorite.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Muppet after all these years they have and you know
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: they keep introducing these new characters in the muppets that
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: are kind of baffling to me the little like shrimp
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: character like.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 12: What the hell i have to say i i was
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 12: confused by him but after a while i was like
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 12: he does get most of the good lines now.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah and um but uh constantine the world's most dangerous
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: frog is my new favorite muppet uh and i love
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: that i love that he's like you know Like, he's sexy,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: you know? Like, Kermit was always kind of sexless, you know?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: And Miss Piggy's trying.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 10: To get with him, and he's always, oh, Piggy.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: And he's, like, trying to get away from her.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: But not Constantine.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Like, Constantine's got game, you know?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: He's, like, you know, a serious player, you know?
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 11: Stupid frog!
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: Stupid train! I don't want to talk to you, Kermit.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: I said I want you out!
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 34: I don't think you know what you want.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: I just told you.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: Shh!
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 34: You're my lady, and I'm your man, baby. And that's why,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 34: if you stick with me, I can give you what
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 34: you want.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: Baby, stop right there. Let me clear the air. Baby,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: look into these eyes.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Let me.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: I apologize. I know what you're thinking of. You're thinking
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: where's the love? Baby, love ain't gone. It's here where
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: it belongs.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 16: I know what you're waiting for. You don't need to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 16: wait no more I'll give you anything you want Give
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 16: you anything you need I'll make your dreams come true
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 16: Give you anything you want Fulfill your fantasies I'll make
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 16: your dreams come true
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 16: want a thingy thing?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: I'll give it to you.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 16: Cause I know what you're waiting for. Girl, you don't
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 16: need to wait no more. I'll give you anything you want.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 16: Give you anything you need. I'll make your dreams come true.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 16: Give you anything you want. Fulfill your fantasies.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: I'll make your dreams come true. You want a taste
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: of fame? I'll give it to you. You want a
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: little cupcake?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 7: I'll give it to you.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: You want a cockatoo? I'll give it to you. You
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: want a kangaroo? I'll give it to you. You want
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: a brand new car? I'll give it to you. You
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: want a Hollywood star? I'll give it to you. You
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: want to go to the moon? I'll see what I
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: can do.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 16: Cause I know what you're waiting for. Girl, you don't
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  Speaker 16: need to wait no more. I'll give you anything you
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 16: want I'll give you anything you need I'll make your
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 16: dreams come true Give you anything you want Fulfill your
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 16: fantasies I'll make your dreams.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: Come true.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 16: And, of course, the Rainbow Connection. Paul Williams from the
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 16: first Muppet movie.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 14: Very nice.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 35: Why are there so many songs about rainbows and what's
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 35: on the other side? Rainbows are visions, but only illusions.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 35: And rainbows have nothing to hide.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 9: So we've been told and some choose to.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: Believe it.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 36: I know they're wrong, wait and see.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 35: Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection The lovers, the dreamers,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 35: and me Who said that every wish would be heard
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 35: and answered when wished.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 32: On the morning star? Somebody thought of that and someone
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 32: believed it. Look what it's done so far.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 35: What's so amazing that keeps us stargazing?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: And what do we think we might see?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 35: Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection, the lover's The
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 35: dreamer and me All of us under its spell We
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 35: know that it's probably.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 14: Magic Have you been half asleep?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: And have you heard voices?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 35: I've heard them calling my name.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: Is this the sweet sound that calls the young sailor?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 35: The voice might be one and the same. I've heard
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 35: it too many times to ignore it.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: It's something that I'm supposed to be.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 35: Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection, the lovers, the dreamers,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 35: and me.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 14: Ba-da-da-dee-da-da-doo, ba-da-da-da-da-dee-da-doo.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Can I sneak in one more thing? My favorite one-two
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: punch of one song played immediately by another song in
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: a movie is at the end of Keith Gordon's Waking
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: the Dead. I don't know if you've ever seen that.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: They play Laurie Carson's Snow Come Down almost in its
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: entirety and then immediately segue into Peter Gabriel's Mercy Street
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: almost in its entirety.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: Piano plays.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: The way I feel Though you don't want to say
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: I think you feel The way I feel Though it's
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: not the easy way Wouldn't you like to be with
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: me Watching the snow come down Watching the snow come
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: down Watching the snow I don't wanna cause you any
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: pain I just wanna love you I don't wanna fuck
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: up anything I just wanna love you and I know
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: you think I'm kinda strange I just wanna love you
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: I just wanna love you I just wanna love you
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: I just wanna love you Every time I see your
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: face I can hardly breathe Every time I see your
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: face I feel stupid and happy Wouldn't you like to
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 6: be with me? Watching the snow come down Watching the
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: snow come down Watching the snow I don't wanna cause
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: you any pain I just wanna love you I don't
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: wanna fuck up anything I just wanna love you And
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: I know you think I'm kinda strange I just wanna
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: love you I just wanna love you Just wanna love
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: you Just wanna love you I'd sure like to be
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: with you Watching the snow come down Watching the snow
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: come down Watching the snow I don't wanna cause you
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: any pain I'd like to give you the world I
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: don't wanna fuck up anything I wanna be your girl
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: And I know you think.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 14: I'm kinda strange I just wanna.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: Love you, I just wanna love you you, I just
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: want to love you, I just want to.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 14: Love you.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: Watching the snow come down, watching the snow come down.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: Watching the snow come.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 37: Looking down on empty streets All she can see.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: Are the dreams all made so. The dreams made real.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: All of the buildings. All of the cars. Were once
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: just a dream. In somebody's head. She pictures the broken glass.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: Pictures the steam. She pictures the soul.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: Slowly cut the seams Take the boat out Wait until
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: darkness Let's take the boat out Wait until darkness comes.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 37: Nowhere in the corridors Of pale green and grey Nowhere.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: In the summers In the cold light of day There
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: in the midst of.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 36: It, so alive and alone Words support my bone Dreaming
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 36: of Mercy Street Where you're inside out Dreaming of Mercy
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 36: In your daddy's arms again Mercy Street Swear they groomed
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 36: that sign Dreaming of.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: Mercy In your daddy's arms.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 14: Pulling out the papers.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: Drawers that slide smooth Tugging at the darkness Word on
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: word Fessing all those secret things in a warm velvet box.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: To the priest, he's the doctor, he can handle the shocks.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: Dreaming of the tenderness, the tremble in the hips.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 14: Of kissing Mary's lips.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: Dreaming of mercy streams.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 14: Prayer inside out, dreaming of mercy.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: In your daddy's arms.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 14: Again, dreaming of birthday street. Swear they moved that sign.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: In your heart that is all. Okay.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: I'm with the.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 37: Father, he's out in the boat Riding the water, riding
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 37: the waves on.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 38: The sea It takes up this huge ten minute chunk
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 38: of the movie There's dialogue going on between it But
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 38: two insanely sad songs that really communicate what's.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: Going on in the movie at that moment But that's
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: what I like.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 12: And that's what I found trying to piece these together,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 12: is how much movies and music, it all just kind
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 12: of gets lumped together, and it is this big emotional journey.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 7: And it's like, you've got the.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 12: Story doing one thing, but the music definitely plays such
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 12: a heavy part that separating the two, you're going to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 12: come out kind of lesser on both ends. I think
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 12: it's this great mixture when you can bring it all together.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Rand, isn't it Wes Anderson that... Which director is it
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: that always says that he.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: He puts together the soundtrack for his movie before he
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: writes it.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's P.T. Anderson.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 11: P.T.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Anderson.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's... Well, you know, another director that said he
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: did that was Lawrence Kasdan. He said he knew what
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: songs were going to be in the Big Chill before
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: he knew what characters.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: Were going to be in the Big Chill. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: you're right. And, like, Scorsese doesn't necessarily do that, but
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: what he'll do is he'll have music. You know, he...
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: even though he doesn't take a credit for it, he's
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: in the editing room every minute that the films are
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: being edited, and he and Thelma Schumacher have worked together forever,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: and literally since he was in college.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: So stupid that he knows the freaking editor of these movies.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: She's won like three Oscars, come on.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, well.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: But at any rate.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: Walk down the street and grab anybody and ask them
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: to name one editor, even if they have won an Oscar.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 7: You named an Oscar-winning song along the way.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 9: There you go, yeah.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 7: Man, you're up it tonight.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: But at any rate.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: No, but when they're working together, kind of editing the film,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: they're cutting it with, you know, he's playing the songs
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: that inspired him when he was shooting. And then, you know,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: he'll decide, okay, we need to get the rights to,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: you know, to what's the Rolling Stones song that's in
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: every Scorsese film? Oh, no, there's one specific one. I
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: can't remember the name of it, though.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 6: Give me a lyric.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, baby, yeah, yeah. Pretty much, yeah.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 7: Street fighting man.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: No, that's not it. But I'll, like, yell it out
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: as you're saying, well, that's it for the movie. Give
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: me Shelter. There it is. Oh, give me Shelter. Yeah,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: that's in, like, every Scorsese film.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 7: You can't blame him.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 7: That era of Stones, you kind of can't go wrong.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 33: Now.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: It's a different story. I was like, Brian Jones died,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: and they had about, like, a three-year grace period after
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Brian Jones died, you know, right until Exile Main Street,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: and then it was like.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 10: It's all downhill.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 28: Yeah.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 10: Slaloming downhill.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 12: But more power to him, man. If people still pay
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 12: for their tickets, you know. Some people tell them to stop.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 12: I'm like, what are they going to do, get a job?
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, Keith handing out baskets at Walmart. You know, like,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 7: just let them play their music if that's what they.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 10: Want to do.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 7: I don't want to say they're good anymore, but people
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: are still paying $ 100 a ticket.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Again, they, you know, they could all be playing from
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: wheelchairs and they'd still be better than us, and we're
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: not bad. You know what I mean?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: They're awesome, man.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: That's what I would say. I'm like, don't take it
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 7: away from them. That's all they have, man. It's been
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: their whole life.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Well, that's like when the Who did the Super Bowl
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: a couple years ago and everyone was like, oh, they're
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: so terrible. I'm like, you know, they're like 80 years old.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're jumping around better than I do. You
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? I know.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: By the end of like a one-hour set, I'm like
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: stooped over with a sore back from like standing with
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: a guitar on that long. You know what I mean?
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: You've got to hand it to those guys.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's, you know.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: On their worst day, they're better than we'll ever be.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: And like I say, we're not bad. It's that they're great.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 12: Well, is there anything that you've seen? Usually we'll try
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 12: to throw in stuff that we've done lately. Have you
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 12: guys seen any movies lately or are listening to any band?
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 7: Just sort of a geek activity of your own.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: I'm very much looking forward to the new Eels album,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: which comes out next week. It's something that hasn't happened,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: but I'm very excited.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to eating dinner at Dairy Queen
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: next door.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to having some unagi, which is eel.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: You see all that?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 7: High quality stuff.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 7: No Captain America?
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: I have not.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: I've had actually a ridiculously busy last couple of weeks,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: so I haven't seen a movie in the last two weeks. Blah, blah, blah.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: I see all superhero movies the day they come out.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Actually, Adam likes to sit in the front row so
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: that the light beams hit his eyes before they hit
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: anyone else's.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: Nobody's seen that movie before my eyes. Winter Soldier, fantastic.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: It's an A +, but all of these new Marvel
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: movies have my such thorough stamp of approval. Did I
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: like it as well as Captain America the First Avenger?
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: Captain America the First Avenger was a period piece. You know,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: it's a World War II, 40s, you know, romp, and
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: it was so much fun for that reason. The new
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: movie is, you know, it's like the Avengers. It's a really,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: really big budget movie. action-adventure movie with great characters and
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: great dialogue, and it's fantastic. You know, I didn't like
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: it as well as the first one, nor did I
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: like it. You know, people are saying it's better than
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: The Avengers, which is a ridiculous statement. Nothing's ever going
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: to be better than The Avengers.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: It's no man thing.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 12: Well, I mean, even out of that run of your
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 12: first batch of Marvel movies, I'd still kind of put
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 12: Captain America in its own category because.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 7: The period piece thing. Because it's a period piece, yeah.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 12: It separates in such a specific way, and he's doing
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 12: a very distinctively different.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 7: Style than all the rest of them.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 12: The rest of them feel like they're kind of going
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 12: for the same universe, because they are, but that one,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 12: he really went out of his way to sort of
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 12: distance it, literally, in time from those, and then it's only... now,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 12: as you get into the Avengers, that we kind of
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 12: see him sort of shoved into the modern day.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: I will say, I'm hugely looking forward to Guardians of
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: the Galaxy, just because I've been a James Gunn fan
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: since the Troma days. I can just tell that this
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: is a guy that's doing something way better than Troma deserves.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: His novel, The Toy Collector, I mean, it's a bit,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: it's definitely, it's very risque, it's not for the weak
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: of heart, but one of my favorite novels of all time.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: And again, like super, you know what I mean? Again,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: not for everyone. Definitely not for everyone. But man, oh man,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: it's so much heart and so much... Pain. Yeah, but
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: it's so real and it's so like, there's a beauty
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: to what he does. I've just been a huge fan
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: and I love that from what I've seen that Marvel's
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: letting James Gunn be James Gunn. Like they know who
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: they hired. And they're letting him do his thing.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: I always, you know, we used to do an event
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: at my house. We haven't done one in a while,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: but we used to do them a couple or three
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: times a year, and we called them Sea Flash Nights.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: Sea Flash is an acronym standing for Chinese food, live
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: action superheroes. And we would choose a theme for the evening,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: like we'd do, oh, you know, superhero teams, or we'd do,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: if there was, you know, something, you know, when the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: first couple of Spider-Man movies would come out, we showed
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: the pilot of this Spider-Man live-action television series.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: The Japanese Spider-Man. Yes, we did.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 27: The old ones.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Japanese.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: The ones with rope webs.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 10: Right, yeah.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: And Nicholas Hammond as Spider-Man. But we did one of
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: those one night where we showed back-to-back, we showed the
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: specials with Mystery Men, which was a much bigger budget,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: kind of take on the same idea.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: For my money, Specials is a much better film.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the Specials. For those of you that...
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sure none of you have heard of that. It's
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: an early James Gunn script. He directed that as well,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: didn't he? He did not direct it. Oh, is that right? Actually,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot good to say about the direction.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: They put out a special edition a couple years ago
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: which had a new a commentary track with him and
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: the female lead in it. What's her name? I can't remember.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: At any rate, and they both were having fun on
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: the commentary track, but they made it clear that they
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: weren't real pleased with the director.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: So the director's commentary didn't have the director in it?
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, I just had to... You don't say anything
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: about it. What killed me about the specials was how
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: James Gunn was the best actor in that film. His
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: performance is so hilarious. And, you know, he's the only
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: one that's not a real actor. And, you know, I mean,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: he certainly doesn't purport to be. Have you seen Lollilove? Oh,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 22: Check out.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 7: Was that just the game or did he do?
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: No, no, that's Lollipop Chainsaw.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: There's a movie called Lollilove that is directed by Jenna Fisher.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: But it's kind of written by the two of them.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: And it's kind of like a mockumentary. And it's definitely
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: worth your time. It's a lot of fun.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 12: Well, he's just one of those, and I think that's
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 12: why the new movie is working so well.
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  Speaker 7: It's because they gave it to.
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  Speaker 12: Somebody who wasn't just a director but a fan of
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  Speaker 12: that universe and that title. And I feel like you're
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  Speaker 12: getting somebody who's putting their heart in it every step
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  Speaker 12: of the way and who gets the humor of it
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  Speaker 12: and kind of gets everything that's going to.
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  Speaker 7: Make it potentially a good movie.
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  Speaker 12: So I think that's why I have a little more
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  Speaker 12: faith going in than a lot of other– big properties
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  Speaker 12: that they just kind of throw at, you know, whoever
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  Speaker 12: was next on the list.
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  Speaker 6: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I know that, you know, I mean, Joss Whedon,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of that same thing. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because, you know, certainly I talked to him
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  Speaker 1: beforehand and so, you know, kind of handpicked him and,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, and it's his shot at the big time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, again, I thought Slither was fantastic.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And no one saw it.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, and you just, you know, Hollywood's not
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  Speaker 1: going to give you that many chances. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: how good your product is. If no one sees it, then,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, but.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Well, I guess tell people where to find you
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  Speaker 7: on the internet or where to look for you on
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  Speaker 7: upcoming shows.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah. The easiest place to find us.
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  Speaker 2: Fire once in the air.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the invisible swordsmen.
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  Speaker 1: The easiest place to find us is at our website,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: which is ooklathemock.com. That's O-O-K-L-A the M-O-K dot com. We
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: also have a Facebook page, which you can find by
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: searching for Ookla Mock on Facebook, and... We keep that
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: fairly updated. And, yeah, we do have pretty much, like,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: we're off. After this weekend, we're off for a week.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: And then, like, the next, like, four weekends, we're going
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: to be doing shows. We're from Buffalo. We've got a
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: couple local shows in Buffalo. Then we're going to be
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: in Columbus, Ohio. Marcon. At Marcon.
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  Speaker 2: That's May. That's going to be the 9th through the 11th.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And then we're actually, you know, I think it's in.
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  Speaker 1: What is it that we're going to be in? We're
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: going to be in September. Yeah, I guess in September,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: we just booked a fairly impressive show. Yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 1: FENCON in Dallas, Texas. That's pretty far for us. So
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: we're excited to hopefully get to play in front of
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: a whole new crowd.
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  Speaker 2: A whole crowd of Texans.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be pretty great.
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  Speaker 7: We have a lot of listeners in Texas.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. And obviously, like I said, you
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: can go to the Facebook page or our website to
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: get updates. We're adding gigs all the time, of course.
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  Speaker 12: All right, well, we're sort of rounding things out here,
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  Speaker 12: so I did want to say thank you to everyone
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 12: at Conglomeration for letting me hang around here and put
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 12: this episode together with the guys. For more on what
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 12: they've got planned next time around, go to conglomeration.info and
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 12: see what they've.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Got in the works.
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  Speaker 12: Now with that, let's get back into the music one
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  Speaker 12: more time, and we're actually going to let the guys
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  Speaker 12: round things out with.
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  Speaker 10: A song of their own.
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  Speaker 12: Well, do you guys want to play one of yours?
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  Speaker 12: Would you like to pick a song and actually work
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  Speaker 12: it into this?
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  Speaker 27: Yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 7: I can round things out with one of yours.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think is the way to go? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we've been talking a bunch about the emotional
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  Speaker 2: impact of some of the... Let's play Amora Adores Thor
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  Speaker 2: off of Versus Evil.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 9: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds good. All right.
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  Speaker 7: Well, thank you for talking to me.
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  Speaker 23: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 12: That about does it for this episode. With that, I
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  Speaker 12: will remind you, Get a Life will provide the soundtrack.
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  Speaker 2: According to the Ohaku, there's a mystic Norse dimension, whereby.
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  Speaker 14: The world tree, dwell the.
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  Speaker 7: Warriors three, and other things.
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  Speaker 27: To Uru dimension.
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  Speaker 14: And the prettiest girl in the whole world is an
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  Speaker 14: enchantress named Amora.
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  Speaker 4: And though she's quite polite.
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  Speaker 6: Her little appetite would.
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  Speaker 4: Rival Sodom and Gomorrah.
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  Speaker 14: Climbed off And draw She's known them all, she's done
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 14: them all Under a drizzle, she's had her fill But.
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  Speaker 4: She gets no thrill from Bay.
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  Speaker 7: To Rayville Cause there's only.
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  Speaker 14: One man in all the land Amora can adore.
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  Speaker 2: She'll sleep with Hercules Or any jerk you please But
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  Speaker 2: she loves the mighty.
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  Speaker 14: Thor Amora Adorzea Those guys before y'all are left immoral.
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  Speaker 14: The skinny-nagin' baby's scared to dress. The bod is got
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  Speaker 14: his name enchantress. Immoral, it does, yeah. More of schemes.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: And fiendish dreams. All her armies and her henchmen.
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  Speaker 9: All her evil plans to rule the world of man.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe five or ten.
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  Speaker 14: We'll help extinguish her desire Balder, Balder With inspired desire
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  Speaker 14: She gave tire and trite Seems as if Thor gets
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  Speaker 14: stiff Only four ladies sit Jane Foster.
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  Speaker 4: Brunhilde, and Lorelai But maybe someday you'll see They were
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  Speaker 4: meant to be.
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  Speaker 14: A love that no one can ignore.
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  Speaker 10: She'll finally be his girl.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 4: He'll rock her world And she'll.
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  Speaker 14: Be his girl She'll be feeling mighty far. Gamora can't
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 14: ignore you anymore. She's gonna floor you. She'll do it
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  Speaker 14: for you. Of course. Cause you're a.
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  Speaker 4: Thorn in the enchantress.
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  Speaker 14: I'm gonna wind up sore and pantsless. Gamora adores you.
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  Speaker 4: .
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  Speaker 36: .
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  Speaker 14: .
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  Speaker 12: .
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  Speaker 14: You can't guess no one's a sadist the enchantress cause.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: right back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's, you know, so weird to hear a
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: pop song used, you know, that effectively, emotionally, where it
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the lyrics.
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  Speaker 33: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's what's unusual to me. And I'll never
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: be able to say that as well as I just
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: said it.
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  Speaker 4: Aloha!
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  Speaker 1: Aloha!
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  Speaker 4: Talk hard!