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Jim Bowden's Front Office Unfiltered: Trade needs for teams, Giants selling BIG, Suspend Devers? · Foul Territory

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get the trade talk going here. It's front
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  Speaker 1: office unfiltered. We're going to be talking to Jim Boden
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  Speaker 1: more frequently over these next six weeks. JBR resident GM
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  Speaker 1: joining us, and he laid out basically what every team
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  Speaker 1: needs heading into this trade deadline, both in the Athletic
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  Speaker 1: and on the latest episode of GM Territories. So, JB,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to start with the team that's popped up
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  Speaker 1: over the past twenty four hours based on Buster Posey
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  Speaker 1: admitting like, yeah, this is done. Put a fork in us.
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  Speaker 1: We're open for business. Call us, let's start making deals.
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  Speaker 1: But not just the Giants angle who wants some of
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  Speaker 1: his guys? Where could you see a Robbie Ray, Luisa
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  Speaker 1: Rise or a Matt Chapman go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, great, questions in the San Francisco Giants right now?
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  Speaker 2: Really one of only there's only two teams in baseball
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  Speaker 2: that are more than seven games out of the playoffs, right,
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  Speaker 2: the Giants and the Rockies are the only two, right,
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  Speaker 2: And so for the Giants, obviously, Buster Posey wanted the
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  Speaker 2: word out there clearly that Logan Webb is the only
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  Speaker 2: player he won't talk about. But he's got a problem
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  Speaker 2: because a lot of the assets he wants to move,
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  Speaker 2: like Raphael Devers, it's not movable because of the contract.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see how much he's willing to pay down
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  Speaker 2: on some of these deals. But you know, you talk
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  Speaker 2: about Devers, he's got seven years, two hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 2: five million left, and we saw how we acted in
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  Speaker 2: Boston when they asked him to change positions, and then
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  Speaker 2: we saw what happened when they tried to pinch run
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  Speaker 2: for him. I can't see another team willing to take
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  Speaker 2: on that kind of money or anything close to it
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  Speaker 2: and take the headaches that come with him as well.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Chapman's thirty four years old, four years left on
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  Speaker 2: that contract. Agent decline is there. Although he's playing better recently,
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  Speaker 2: gms aren't going to look at that contract and take
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  Speaker 2: that on either, so they're in a difficult position. I
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  Speaker 2: do think Robbie Ray gets moved. I think he's the
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  Speaker 2: most obvious of all of them, and you know, there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of teams that are looking for a
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  Speaker 2: fourth or fifth type starter where he would be an upgrade.
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  Speaker 2: So I definitely think he gets moved.
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  Speaker 3: I hear that.
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  Speaker 2: Lewis rise, there are teams that have interested in him
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  Speaker 2: as well, and because he's improved defensively thanks to the
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  Speaker 2: hard work with Ron Washington, the fact that he can
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  Speaker 2: play first base, second base, dh create traffic. Yes, he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have power, nor does he have speed, but the
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  Speaker 2: traffic's important for some of these lineups. So I think
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  Speaker 2: Ray and a Rise are the most likely to go.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: You never know.
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  Speaker 2: In this game, We've seen a lot of contracts we
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  Speaker 2: didn't think would get moved that eventually do get moved.
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  Speaker 2: But I think Buster Posey's got a lot of work
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  Speaker 2: in front of him.
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  Speaker 4: DoD Buster Posey play his hand too early in a
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  Speaker 4: sense of not that they're going to trade, because I
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  Speaker 4: don't really care, you know, I think everybody should be
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  Speaker 4: trading right away, but playing his hand saying I don't
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  Speaker 4: want Web or was it a genius move? Or I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to trade Web or is that a genius move?
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  Speaker 4: Making Web look more valuable than he already was as
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  Speaker 4: one of the better pitchers in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Buster is being honest and trans parent
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  Speaker 2: with everybody. I don't think he moves Web. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he'll talk about Web. You know, I know there
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  Speaker 2: are a couple of gms I've talked to that have
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  Speaker 2: inquired and Buster has told them the same thing. He
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  Speaker 2: said publicly, I'm not going to move web. That's our
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  Speaker 2: race and that's what that's what you build around. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I take him for his word on this one. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he's playing games. And I think the reason
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  Speaker 2: why it's okay for him to come out and say
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  Speaker 2: what he's saying is it's just too obvious for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a good baseball team. This is not
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  Speaker 2: a team that can figure it out. And he wants
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that everybody knows that he is selling
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  Speaker 2: because understand this, right, we don't have this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be a buyers and seller's trade deadline. That's not
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  Speaker 2: what this is. This is going to be contender to
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  Speaker 2: contender trades. San Francisco right now is the only team
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  Speaker 2: out there that has assets that are saying they're available,
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  Speaker 2: and he wants to do it early because what happens
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  Speaker 2: when you get to August third, there'll be five or
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  Speaker 2: six more teams that are going to join him, probably
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  Speaker 2: as at that point. He wants to get ahead of
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  Speaker 2: the curve. And remember when he traded for Devers. He
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  Speaker 2: got ahead of the curve, so he's kind of got
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  Speaker 2: a track record of looking at his teams in June
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  Speaker 2: and figuring out what he wants to do and where
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  Speaker 2: he wants to go ahead of everybody else.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to the Yankees here real quick. I want
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  Speaker 5: to talk about them in their needs right handed hitting catcher.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, as they've been talking about Austin Wells have
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  Speaker 5: been struggling Escara Ali Sanchez. They need to find somebody there,
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  Speaker 5: for sure. I'm a little more concerned about the bullpen.
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  Speaker 5: Who do you Is there anybody out there that you
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  Speaker 5: think the Yankees as of now could be looking forward
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  Speaker 5: to build that bullpen up a little bit better so
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  Speaker 5: they can make a push towards the playoffs.
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  Speaker 6: Are we a little too early right now?
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  Speaker 2: And talk no Todd the answers to triple A. You
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  Speaker 2: don't have to make a trade. It's Carlos so Granier
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  Speaker 2: right there was one hundred and one hundred and two.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: They're putting him in the role, They're putting him in
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  Speaker 2: high leverage situations. They are getting him ready. He is
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  Speaker 2: their guy to set up Bednard. So they don't have
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  Speaker 2: the trade for it. Now just for the fans, the
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  Speaker 2: listeners do understand I got the needs. These aren't my
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  Speaker 2: opinion of the needs of the teams. These come directly
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  Speaker 2: from the GMS and the presidents of twenty nine of
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  Speaker 2: the thirty teams. I never heard back from the Angels,
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  Speaker 2: but the other twenty nine teams where I mentioned the needs,
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  Speaker 2: it's coming directly from them. And obviously it's subject to change.
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  Speaker 2: When I talked to Arizona, they were talking about a
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  Speaker 2: left hand hitting, power hitter and bullpen. But since then
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  Speaker 2: two starting pitchers went down, so obviously starting pitching becomes
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  Speaker 2: a need for them.
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  Speaker 3: So it's always subject to change. But getting back to.
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  Speaker 2: The Yankees, they're very clear right and hitting catcher Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Jeffers of the Twins is the name that keeps being
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  Speaker 2: bandied about the most once he gets back from the
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  Speaker 2: IL and then you know, Brian Cashman always wants to
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  Speaker 2: build a bullpen up and so you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where he's going to go, but I do know
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  Speaker 2: the first solution is Legronier in the minor leagues. He's
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  Speaker 2: an exciting arm. I got the same him in spring training.
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  Speaker 2: I got goosebumps just looking at him and he's got
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  Speaker 2: the makeup and character to match. He's a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be able to handle the big league, So
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  Speaker 2: look forward to that. And then in terms of relievers,
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  Speaker 2: you know a name that keeps coming out as a
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  Speaker 2: kind of a depth play is Antonio Sanzatela of the
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  Speaker 2: Colorado Rockies and Seth Halverson, his teammate. Both those guys
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  Speaker 2: have good arms. There's a lot of scouts that have
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  Speaker 2: been watching those two guys and at some point they're
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  Speaker 2: probably going to get moved between now and the deadline,
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  Speaker 2: and they could be fits for the Yankees as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's a must read article just for what JB is
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  Speaker 1: talking about. It's not just like JB coming up with
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  Speaker 1: ideas for the teams, which he can do very well,
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  Speaker 1: but directly getting information from the teams. Besides the ciaaka
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  Speaker 1: the Angels, they just can't tell anyone what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: right now, but that's okay. We have an idea of
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  Speaker 1: what they should do, like trade some of their guys
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  Speaker 1: that they often don't trade at the deadline. I digress.
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  Speaker 1: I had a follow up for you, though, JB, before
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  Speaker 1: I went on a tangent. So my question for you
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  Speaker 1: revolves around ealders Chapman. We actually just were busy last week,
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  Speaker 1: didn't get to this topic. But why do you think
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees would kind of publicly rule him out already
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  Speaker 1: based on how they had a little mix up a
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  Speaker 1: few years back. And I get it, he's on the
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox. The Red Sox trading their guy to the
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  Speaker 1: Yankees and them help that helping them win a World
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  Speaker 1: Series or something.
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  Speaker 7: It's very unlikely.
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  Speaker 1: But my point is he's one of the best closures available, Like,
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  Speaker 1: you can't make amends on something from years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you can make amends if you want. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: but just go back in history. Right, It's twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: You're in the middle of a pennant race and during
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  Speaker 2: the season, your closer goes and gets a tattoo and
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  Speaker 2: gets an infection and then can't pitch for you. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you could have gotten a tattoo in the off season.
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  Speaker 2: So then you have a mandatory workout as you're getting
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  Speaker 2: ready for the playoffs, and he doesn't show up, and
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  Speaker 2: he gets on a plane and he goes to Miami,
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  Speaker 2: and so who should be apologizing to who? So they
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  Speaker 2: left him off the postseason roster, which was the right
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  Speaker 2: decision to make. And now Chapman says they'd have to
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  Speaker 2: Apollo or Brian CASHMSS apologize to me before I would
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  Speaker 2: be traded there, Like what No? So I think there
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  Speaker 2: are times in baseball where you can burn your bridges
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  Speaker 2: and that that bridge is gone. So they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to trade for Chapman. They don't want to relive it.
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  Speaker 2: I do think a role as Chapman has changed quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit in the last four years. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: grown up. I don't hear stories about him being out
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  Speaker 2: at three am smoking cigars anymore. You know, he's figured
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  Speaker 2: it out. He's throwing strikes. He's one of the best
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  Speaker 2: closers in the game, you know. Personally, to me, I
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  Speaker 2: just want to win, So I would forgive him if
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  Speaker 2: I traded for him. But I think there's some bad
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  Speaker 2: blood there that's hard to take away. When you didn't
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  Speaker 2: win the World Championship in twenty two and you look
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  Speaker 2: back at what he did to the team, I think
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  Speaker 2: that stays with you.
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  Speaker 3: For a while.
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  Speaker 4: When my puppy Bella has something wrong, I'm not going
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: to go around googling what to do.
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  Speaker 4: I got more of a general question as we keep
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  Speaker 4: going to teams, but you hit on the fact that
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  Speaker 4: the Yankees may want a right handed hitting catcher, And
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  Speaker 4: you talked about Jeffers, what is the hardest need to fill?
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  Speaker 4: Because when I look catchers that have moved at the deadline,
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  Speaker 4: we're talking about guys that are like kind of backups
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  Speaker 4: that then may have to fit into a role. So
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  Speaker 4: I think catching is an outfield because everybody trades for
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  Speaker 4: bullpen arms, but what position or what area of need
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  Speaker 4: and then we could hit other teams? Is the hardest
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  Speaker 4: to fill at the trade deadline in general? Obviously, a
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  Speaker 4: year to year can change.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, every year is different.
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  Speaker 2: I keep hearing from teams how hard it is to
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  Speaker 2: get a right handed hitting middle of the order back.
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  Speaker 2: I hear that more than anything else from people this year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I found the needs to be fascinating. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to digress here, but the thirty teams,
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  Speaker 2: did you notice only eight teams are looking for starting pitching,
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  Speaker 2: Like normally that numbers twenty or twenty two. There was
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  Speaker 2: only eight, and some of the teams that are obviously
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  Speaker 2: need another starter. The answer was bullpen. We'll just get
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  Speaker 2: bullpen arms and figure it out from there. I mean,
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: the game has changed a lot. I get it, but
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of fascinating. But to answer
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  Speaker 2: your question, I would say, based on what the gms
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  Speaker 2: are telling me, right hand hitting corner outfielder is really
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  Speaker 2: hard to get right now.
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  Speaker 4: So I assume that's what you were gonna say, and
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  Speaker 4: that's why I'm gonna go to the Phillies. Is that
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  Speaker 4: need going to be able to be filled by one
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  Speaker 4: of the most aggressive gms in our game in Dombrowski
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  Speaker 4: for the Philadelphia Phillies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he can fill it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where he would. Here's one of the problems
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  Speaker 2: that he has. Right There are some players like Joe
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  Speaker 2: Adell of the Angels that would be a nice fit
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  Speaker 2: and they should be selling, But for whatever reason, GM's
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  Speaker 2: tell me they're not selling. So you know, where do
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  Speaker 2: you fill that need? Byron Buxton would be a really
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  Speaker 2: good fit for the Philadelphia Phillies. But Jeremy Zola's telling
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  Speaker 2: teams he's not trading bucks, then he has no trade rights.
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  Speaker 2: He's got the Twins tattooed on his body.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like he's not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: The San Francisco Giants really don't have that piece for him,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know where that is. The other issue
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  Speaker 2: that Dave has. He doesn't have a lot to trade, right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, he's got a couple of prospects that
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  Speaker 2: he could move, but unless he wants to move and
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Painter or Aiden Miller, it's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: difficult fill because even this major league team has a
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  Speaker 2: lot of average or below average players on it, So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be very difficult for him
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  Speaker 2: to fill. But I will never ever bet against Dave
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  Speaker 2: Dombrowski at the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 4: You've mentioned tattoos twice, so maybe hey, maybe no comment needed,
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  Speaker 4: no answer need, but maybe Jim has gotten a tattoo
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  Speaker 4: recently so he's thinking about it. But would Dombrowski and
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  Speaker 4: what you know of Bryce Harper, would he move to
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  Speaker 4: the outfield to be able to fill that need at
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  Speaker 4: first base? And if that's the case, who could be
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  Speaker 4: a possible first base addition? If Bryce Harper is willing
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  Speaker 4: to move to the outfield, which he said he would,
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  Speaker 4: if they were able to sign like a Pee.
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  Speaker 2: Alonzo, yeah, well getting Pete Alonzo anytime soon? Yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: look again, I think Bryce Harper would do whatever it
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  Speaker 2: takes to win.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's how I've always felt about him.
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  Speaker 2: I think if I was Dave, I'd feel more comfortable
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  Speaker 2: leaving at first base. He's done really well there and
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  Speaker 2: has found a home. But yeah, if you could go
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  Speaker 2: out and get that first baseman to fill that void, fine,
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  Speaker 2: But again there's it's not like this market is filled
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  Speaker 2: with available first.
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  Speaker 3: Baseman, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's again not something that there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of inventory of. So I don't know where he gets it.
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  Speaker 5: I want to talk a little about Raphael Devers a
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  Speaker 5: little I call it a little saga that's going on
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  Speaker 5: in San fran Buster Posey, you've been there before.
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  Speaker 6: Man, You've you're a jack all trade.
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  Speaker 5: You've been every in my opinion, I feel like you've
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  Speaker 5: been in every position in baseball.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, just see in your face.
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  Speaker 5: My question is, how would you've handled that? Is it
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  Speaker 5: your place to even figure that out? Is it the
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  Speaker 5: manager's job? Like you know, he didn't want to come
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  Speaker 5: off first base the other day, and now Pepe, his
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  Speaker 5: ex coach, is saying stuff on Instagram or Twitter or
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  Speaker 5: whatever or X whatever you call it. How would you
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  Speaker 5: have handled that as a GM, knowing that you've been
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  Speaker 5: there before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have suspended him for a game without pay,
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  Speaker 2: and I would have let the union file aggrievance against me,
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  Speaker 2: and I would let the arbitrators decide. That's what I
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  Speaker 2: would have done. What he did was disrespect the manager,
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  Speaker 2: the bench coach, and his teammates and the organization from
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  Speaker 2: top to bottom. And you can't let a player get
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  Speaker 2: away with that. I'm sorry, you just can't. Not the
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  Speaker 2: major league level, not the minor league level, that disrespect.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that he did it. It was childish
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  Speaker 2: on his part. I don't understand his thought process. Manager,
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  Speaker 2: pinch runs for you, walk off the field, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: And he even told the teammate that was Pincher running
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  Speaker 2: for him, no go back, to go back to the dugout.
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  Speaker 2: And then to make matters worse when he came into
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  Speaker 2: the dugout and Jace Tinler, the bench coach, tried to
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  Speaker 2: pat him on the back, he moved his back away
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  Speaker 2: from him. It was just it's uncalled for. And you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: I also think there's a layer of the manager and
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  Speaker 2: the coaching staff doesn't have the respect of some of
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  Speaker 2: the players in there. Devers obviously one of them. But
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  Speaker 2: this isn't the first event with Devers, right, we saw
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  Speaker 2: the way he treated Craig Breslow in Boston, which is
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  Speaker 2: why Craig Breslow traded him. So this is a Devers
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  Speaker 2: issue and problem. But I think to answer your question
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  Speaker 2: as a GM, it's that situation was public. You have
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  Speaker 2: to do something about it, and I think suspending one
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: game without pay, which is a lot of money for Devers,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: would be the appropriate action.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: And I thought the tweet from Alex Corre's former manager
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: was very telling. You do not see that often where
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: someone's trying to be like, see see what I was
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: putting up with when people are trying to say was
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: it the Red Sox fault? Was it Dever's fault with
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that whole divorce? So my follow up for you too
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: pronged here. One is how does Buster Posey not have
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: a conversation with him as of yesterday afternoon when he
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: spoke to reporters, it's been days? And then how does
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Devers go days without speaking to media and then basically
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: blaming the media.
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  Speaker 7: For this whole situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, dude, he's like saying, oh, well, I was
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: hurt and then we were just trying to clarify that
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you've been playing baseball for twenty seven years. Whatever it is,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: don't you know, if you're slower than someone else, it's
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: the ninth inning. In that situation, you're gonna get pinch
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: run for like its just the whole thing just smells.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disgusting right now. Look, I'm not going to
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: tell Buster Posey how to do his job. You guys
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: asked me what I would have done when I was GM,
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  Speaker 2: and I told you there are some presidents in GMS
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: that would not have gotten involved. They would have left
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: it up to the manager to handle it. However, he
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: wanted to handle it, and I'm guessing that's what Buster
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Posey decided to do. He probably didn't want to go
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: around Tony Vytello. I just would have done it differently.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I would have done it with Tony Vitelo. I would
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: have brought him in to the office, suspend him for
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: a game, let him know the seriousness of it. What
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: bothered me about Dever's comment is obviously whatever conversation Tony
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Voytello had with him, he obviously didn't make it strong
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: enough because for Rafael Devors to say, well, that's why
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I don't talk to the media, because they blow it up.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: No one's blowing up anything out of proportion, nobody. All
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: we're doing is reporting what we saw you do. That
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: is it, nothing more, nothing less, That's it. And you
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: know that kind of actions too. I mean it destroys
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: the organization when you have two hundred and twenty five
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: million left on a contract. I mean, who wants to
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: trade for Rafael Devers after what he did in Boston
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: and not what he's done in San Francisco. So yeah,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: it's unacceptable. I don't think the manager handled it well.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the GM or the president or the
• 17:43
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Regarding your article, I'm reiterating what you said before. We said,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: this is what you found out from the GMS, and
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: one of the things that GM said was Cleveland needs
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: a power back. I think everybody sees that is a
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: power bat available anywhere because you said it is contender
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: to contender. Is there a power bat that the Guardians
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: could possibly go and get as their need that would
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: then add to the team that they currently have, which
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: is now in second place as of today.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're going back to the same Philadelphia question
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and you know, as of now, probably not right. If
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Houston Astros were to drop out of it, do the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Phillies and Guardians come after Christian Walker as an example, Yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: that probably makes sense, But Houston's not going to trade
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Christian Walker unless all of a sudden they take a dive.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You know, you're going to have to get a team
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: like the Angels that are if they were smart, they
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: would trade their assets and turn one asset into four
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: because they're never going to contend the way they operate,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: it's never going to happen unless they try to take
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: individual assets in times of by three or four prospects.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: But the Rockies don't have a lot to deal, the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Angels don't, the Giants. So then the question becomes, you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: is there anybody know does Lewis Arise help Cleveland a
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: little bit? It doesn't really fit what they need, so
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I'd probably say no. And then you have to wonder
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: we have to go contender to contender. You know, is
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: there a way we can fit? Should we circle back
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: to Arizona and can tell Marte as an example, you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: maybe they move him now if they were to drop
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: out of it. But again, every team is within seven
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: games of the playoffs except two right now, and so yeah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: it's difficult now for Cleveland, though keep in mind, you
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: know they're playing without Jose Ramirez, Ainhal Martinez and Chase
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the latter. They need those three guys back. That was
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: their three best hitters when they all went down. Manzardo's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: starting to hit, which is positive as well. But yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: to answer your question right now, there's not a lot
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: of bats that are available, and that's why everyone keeps
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: saying that's the hardest thing to get right now.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: So Cleveland is essentially in the same spot that you
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: wrote about that the Tigers are in just to get healthy,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: is answer. Did that answer surprise you from the league
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: in the sense that the league thinks this is a
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: good team and all they need to do is just
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: get healthy, or do you feel like it was just
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: kind of a I don't think they really have a
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: need they need to trade.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: So let me go through it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Because there's only three teams that kind of fit that
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: mob that said healthy, right, so Los Angeles Dodgers were
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: one of them. And I love the answer because that
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: is the truth.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: If Will Smith goes down, no worries I have Dalton rushing.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: If glassnow goes on the DL with with a two
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: seven six era, I'll have Robleski put up the same era, right,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: or I'll go get Eric Lauer if I have a need.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So the Dodgers literally just need to be healthy now.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: When Detroit says it, they said it in a kind
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of a different fashion. They said it like, I want
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to see what this team can do for the next
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: six weeks. I want to get this team healthy and
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: see if we can get back in the race, and
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: then we'll make the decision. So it wasn't saying we
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: don't have you know, we're not going to have a
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: need when we get to the trade deadline. It was,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: you know, my question was what is your biggest need today?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: That's how I worded it, And the Tiger's answer was
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: more like, you know, let me get Scooba back pitching
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: every fifth day, let me get the bullpen healthy, let
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: me get this team back to where it is, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: then a month from now, I'll know what we have
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: to do, what we may need or if we do sell.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: So that was kind of how they responded to that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: A team like Seattle, you know, I want to get
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: healthy because like, Okay, yeah, they need another reliever, but
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: we have Kate Anderson, We have Ryan Sloan in our
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: system ready to go whenever we need that. Now, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: would argue that Seattle could use one more bat to
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: kind of put with Raleigh and Roe, blest A, DH
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and right field. But they didn't see. They don't see
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: it that way right now. That may change in a month,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you know, we'll have to wait and see. But again,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: when I wrote this article, I had talked to every
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: front office within twenty four hours of that article posting.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: You mentioned Derek Klawer and we talked about a little
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: bit yesterday. I'm perplexed at how the Dodgers were the
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: only team that said, you know what, I think Eric
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Lawer could give us some value and he's starting in
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: this rotation.
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: How is a GM does that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say fall through the cracks, but
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm saying fall through the cracks for everybody else.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean especially teams like the Chicago White Sox,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Cardinals, the San Diego Padres. You know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: there are teams the Washington Nationals. I mean, there are
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: teams that really stood out to me. And when the
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Dodgers signed them, I just kind of laughed, like, there
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: goes Andrew Friedman and Brandon Gomes again. I even talked
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to a couple of friends recommending Lower. You know, the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: problem sometimes in some of the front offices right now
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: is that their artificial intelligence or their analytics or algorithms
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: don't like pitchers that throw ninety as the top end
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of their.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Fastball for whatever reason.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: But Lower is one of those guys that you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: we've seen success with him. He's left handed, he fits in.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: You put him in a rotation between a couple guys
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that throw really hard, and you know it's screws hitters up.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I could.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Not believe that when Lower became a bit. First of all,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe Toronto gave up on I know he
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: had a slow start, but I was surprised that they
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: gave up on him because you never get enough pitching.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: But then for the Dodgers to beat the other twenty
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: eight teams to get him like that just can't happen.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: But it did.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Wait four boxes for a moment. Then I'll ask the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: last question. I just want to get Kratz's reaction, because
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: he texted me something while you were talking, JB. Go
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: ahead say it, Kratz, It's worth it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: But then the Mets start senga, who's throwing ninety nine?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: So I guess the AI algorithm says, oh, well, ninety
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: nine is so much.
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: Better than what my eye says.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Is lower who helped the Blue Jays make it to
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: the playoffs last year? Gym Like, I'm so anyway, sorry,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I get I get infuriated when there's obvious things in
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: front of me.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I do too, And you know, to me, I just
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: want outs and I want to win, yes, And I
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: don't care how you get me the outs or how
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you get me the wins.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: But create creativity is so.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Important and different looks in different shapes, sizes, velocities. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: mean I had closers back in my day that one
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: roll age relieves that didn't have good stuff, Like Jeff
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Brantley had an eighty nine min hour fastball and he
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: would throw by people the top of the strike zoner
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: right down the middle of the plate like Danny Graves
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: would impact closer and.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: It was a sinker. Like you know it's outs. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: want outs.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Look, we all know what the stuff is. We all
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: know what the velo is the spin rates, the shapes,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the sizes, the breaks. We measure everything.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: What I like to do is I like to see
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the guys that get outs, and then we can go
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: back and look at how they're getting the outs. But
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: let's get the outs, let's get early count outs, let's
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: mis bats, let's let's get you know, that's what you
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: need to do. And whether it's lower or senga, you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: sometimes stuff is the best way to go. But at
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, the last team that wins
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: is the one that gave up the less amount of runs.
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: Obviously, isn't that where the value is?
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Right now, Jim, if you were to start an organ
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: not start an organization, but take over an organization and say,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: you know what ownership says, we want to win, I say,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I want to win all the things that you're preaching.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Isn't that where major value is because everybody else is
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: just the same sheep, just just going in the same direction.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: And then a team like the Dodgers gets get you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: all this money, but then they make a move like this.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Isn't that the things that separate you from the best
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: of the best, Because that's what you want to be.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think when you it's it's not just
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers. You know, people look at the Dodgers, they
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: don't really understand how they build teams that a lot
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: of people don't understand the value of Alex call or
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: or the value of an Eric Lauer.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: The Dodgers really get it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: They understand baseball makeup, character, baseball IQ. They understand what
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: player's best assets are and what role they can be
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: used to win games. Eric Neander a Tampa Bay is
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a genius. Peter Bendix comes from that tree, the freedman
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Neander now Bendicks tree.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: They get it. I mean, there's a reason why.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: The Marlins are the winningest team in baseball in the
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: month of June. Peter Bendix knows exactly what he's doing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: They understand the human element. That's not in the scouting report,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it's not in the metrics, it's not in the analytics.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And they understand what a player can bring to the table,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: what the assets are, what the weaknesses are. They try
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to avoid players' weaknesses and just make sure they harness
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the straints and put them in the right position and
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the right role to succeed and That's why a lot
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: of small market teams that have great leaders can I mean,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: look at heinm. Bloom's influence on Saint Louis or Paul
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Deboni's influence on Washington, and look at all the young
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: players that are developing better that they they provide a better,
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  Speaker 1: this happened. What's your take on the MLB proposal to
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  Speaker 2: just had the colleges do it dead and they'll be
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  Speaker 2: right unless I own the minor league team, I don't
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  Speaker 2: get any money. I just have an expenditure. Why don't
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  Speaker 2: I What we're witnessing the last two or three years
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  Speaker 2: is the colleges are developing players better or at least
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  Speaker 2: as good as the major league teams are.
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  Speaker 3: That's just clear.
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  Speaker 2: When these guys like Jack cagleone and Travis Bozana and
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  Speaker 2: these guys get to the big leagues as quick as
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  Speaker 2: they do, the development has been great. Now the colleges
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: are getting TV money, radio money, there's a lot of
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: money coming in. They're getting money from NIL. So the
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  Speaker 2: players are getting paid, the colleges are getting paid. There's
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of money there, So why don't they pay
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  Speaker 2: for it? And we'll cut down the number of minor
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  Speaker 2: league teams we have, and we'll have guys, we'll use
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  Speaker 2: the model of the NFL, and we'll have guys go
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  Speaker 2: from college basically for a year or two and the
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  Speaker 2: miners if that, and then right to the big leagues.
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  Speaker 2: Let someone else pay for it. So I totally understand
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: what the teams are trying to do there in terms of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, taking the draft from twenty to twelve. I'm
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  Speaker 2: actually okay with that if if I were a player,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you know, if I don't go in the first twelve
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  Speaker 2: rounds and I get to pick where I play and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: have that choice instead of having to be drafted by
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the Angels or the Pirates or you know, a small
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  Speaker 2: market team. If I wanted to be a Yankeer Dodger
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and they wanted me after the twelfth round, I get
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: to pick where I go. I'm not sure that isn't
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a good thing for some of the players. And as
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: far as the teams go, you know, most of the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: guys that get to the big leagues are being drafted
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: in the first twelve rounds. I mean, you know, Scouty's
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: gotten really more precise than it ever has been before.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: So you know, I'm actually, I'm actually fine with the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: proposal from the from the team perspective.
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: You can push back.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: You can push back here.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: My pushback is you need to subscribe to foul territory
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: because I said exactly what the teams are doing. Now,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you get free agents who are
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: not ever twenty six, they're always twenty eight to twenty nine,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: and you don't have to pay that extra price too.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: That's the long play for the for major League Baseball.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: In my opinion, Oh, there's no doubt.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're taking a teenager away from getting to
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: the big leagues. I mean, to me, it's a lot
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: of fun when a Bryce Harper or a Juan Soto
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: makes it to the big leagues as a teenager. That's
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: a really big deal, and you're taking it away. Look,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: this is a club proposal, this is an agreement by
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the players. I mean, if I'm on the player side,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with this, nothing to do
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: with this. But from an owner's perspective, I mean they're
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: running a business. I understand that proposal. I would love
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to have the colleges pay to develop my players. Saves
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: me a lot of money.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And my pushback, JB, is that none of that
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: is going to happen high schoolers.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: You're still going to enter their not going to cut
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: down round all of that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: The only thing that I think we should actually be
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: paying attention to is something that was close to getting
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: done LASTCO round, which is the International Draft. I'm fine
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: with that. I can't say I'm the expert on that topic.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: The only thing that bothered me, That led me to
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: a rant, and I don't do it often here, but
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: was the stipulations they came out with, how they can
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: help to prevent the crime that goes on in some
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: of the Latin American countries with these ten eleven year
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: olds and their trainers right them working with the government,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: they could be doing that now and for the past
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: long time, you know. To me, it just sounded like, hey,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: we get the draft, we get what we want. Now
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: will help the situation down there. And I just felt
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: like there were two different cases. That's actually the biggest
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: thing I took out of this was wait, now we
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: have ideas to fix this, but we didn't for twenty years.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: No, I totally get your point there, Scott, agree with it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I think my problem with it is, Okay, so if
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: you're an international player, you can go to the big
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: leagues at age eighteen, but if you go if you
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: live in the United States, you can't go until you're twenty.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I don't get that. I also have never believed that
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: two drafts is the way to go. I've always believed
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: it's a worldwide draft.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: That's the way we.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Should be going. I think there should be one amateur
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: draft that takes place that includes everybody. Put everybody on
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: the same playing field. I think that's more fair. It
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: just is you're gonna have certain slotting. But what if
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the player in the third round drafted by the Blue
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Jays in the American amateur Draft is a much better
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: player than the player that's in the third round and
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the international draft in the same spot, and they're both
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: automatically going to get the same money. Like, that's not
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: really fair in my opinion. So my preference would be
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: not just an international draft, one draft, worldwide draft. Put
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: everybody in the same pool with the same age, whatever
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the age restriction is going to be, if it's seventeen
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: or eighteen, whatever it's going to be, but treat everybody
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the same regardless of where they're one.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's a good topic in the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: off season to go over is the whole draft situation,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: because also, just for me the fan perspective, two drafts
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: gets confusing.
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: I just want one like NBA.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: There's guys you've never heard of from Europe, but it
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: just makes more sense to have it all tied together.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: So I think there's great points there. JB.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thanks for the extended time. We had a
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: lot to get to We'll catch you soon. Sounds good, guys,
• 35:22
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• 35:25
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• 35:27
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• 35:28
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• 35:30
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• 35:33
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• 35:35
  Speaker 7: very much.