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  We are faith and fury.
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  Love and fire.
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  This is the human equation where every voice counts and every truth cuts deep.
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  With your host, Joseph Pancar.
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  Good evening, my friends.
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  Welcome to the Human Equation.
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  I'm your host, Joe Pangaro.
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  And this is the Friday wrap-up.
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  So what is the Friday wrap-up?
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  Just like it sounds.
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  We're going to talk about a lot of things, bits and pieces of different stories, goings on, potentials for what could be happening next week.
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  And we'll see where this goes.
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  So I have a choice when we sit here together.
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  At this time of night, being a former law enforcement officer, I drink coffee at any time of the day or night.
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  Doesn't matter to me.
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  I could drink coffee at 11 o'clock at night and go to bed two minutes later.
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  And coffee does have the desired effect for me in the morning.
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  I get up, I like to have my cup of coffee.
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  It's kind of a ritual, right?
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  It's a ritual, we have coffee, uh, and it wakes us up.
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  There's the you know, the physical effect that we get from caffeine and this and that.
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  But it doesn't affect me uh throughout my whole career because I worked all kinds of crazy shifts, I work all kinds of crazy hours, and I drank a lot of coffee.
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  I like the taste of coffee.
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  So I always have a choice when it comes to this time of the day.
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  What am I gonna do?
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  Do I go with a cocktail?
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  Or do I go with a cup of coffee?
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  And it depends.
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  Um I'm starting out with coffee because I just feel like a cup of coffee, right?
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  And sometimes you gotta just do what you feel like, and maybe, maybe when we take a little break through our episode, I might go grab myself an adult beverage.
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  We'll see.
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  Or maybe a second cup of coffee.
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  So I had some feedback from the show I did recently about the AI.
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  And I I thought they were very thoughtful comments people sent to me.
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  I thought they were interesting.
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  I know uh I had talked about uh maybe writing a screenplay or some kind of a short story based on my interaction with the AI, and I have to be very, very thankful that a lot of people sent me ideas that hey Joe, this is kind of a beat up storyline, you know, it's it's already old, the AI storylines, but what about this?
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  What do you think about this?
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  Or what do you think about that?
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  And very interesting.
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  So, as a writer, for those of you who are writers or who you like to read and you understand, my children, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago, 16 years ago, uh, when my writing really started to take off, when people were actually paying me to write stuff and uh paying me for articles and whatnot, then I became a real writer.
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  Until then, you know, you just uh you're you're a hobbyist at writing.
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  Well, my kids got me this book by the author Stephen King.
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  And the book is called Stephen King on Writing, and it was supposed to be from what they understood a tutorial from Stephen King on how the writing process works for him, what he's learned over the years, and what he could pass on to, you know, other young writers or new writers.
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  And I found it really very interesting.
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  Now, in his later years, he's really become a a crazy liberal, you know.
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  Um, but you know, I guess that happens sometimes when you have a lot of money and you can sit back and you have uh, you know, protection and the what happens in the world doesn't affect you.
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  Then I guess you can look at the world a lot differently.
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  So I got this book on writing, and I was very interested because I really liked Stephen King.
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  Uh when I was younger, I read, I always liked autobiographies.
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  I liked reading about people's real lives.
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  Because I I was even as a young person, I was motivated by how people succeeded.
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  You know, I I didn't sit down at uh 12 years old and say to myself, let's try and figure out how people get successful so that you can do that.
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  I didn't do that, but what I did do is I did watch my father, who was an entrepreneur, and I watched how he decided to leave a really good union job in New York City that he had to drive to about two hours each way from the Jersey Shore where he moved us to, so we'd have a better life out of uh out of the northern parts of New Jersey, Jersey City and whatnot.
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  And his sacrifice was a two-hour ride each way uh up into the city and do his job.
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  And then he decided, you know what?
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  I'm gonna move the family down, let them have a better life, and I'll sacrifice and drive.
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  And then after about five or six years of that, he decided, you know what?
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  I'm gonna start my own business.
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  And he did.
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  He's an electrician, he put out his own shingle, and our first couple of years, I probably told this story, you go back and listen to previous episodes.
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  You know, it was really tough to go from a really good job where he was making a very good decent wage, you know, a uh a skilled um craftsman, an electrician, and then to go put out your own shingle and hope that people call on the phone so you can go to work.
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  Well, he did that, and our first couple of years were difficult.
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  I mean, we went from a really nice lifestyle to like really difficult.
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  But after about two years, things started to improve.
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  And I could tell this even as a kid, is that all of a sudden he had so much work that he had three trucks and three crews going out, where before it was just him.
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  He left at six in the morning and he came home at six at night, and not every day of the week, you know, because you just didn't have work every day.
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  Then all of a sudden it was every day, then he had a helper, then he had two helpers, then he bought a truck for the helpers and sent them out, you know, and it just built up over the course of a couple years, and it was very successful.
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  There was a big building boom here at the Jersey Shore, and condominiums were a brand new kind of a concept down here, and they were probably 15 or 16 complexes went up within a very short period of time.
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  And my father got the contract for probably five or six of them, and it kept him busy for the next three years, three crews just going crazy.
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  I worked on them when I was a kid.
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  My job was putting in um little electric sockets.
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  He taught me how to do that, and that's what I did.
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  I went around putting electric sockets in.
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  Uh but what it did, it made me look at that and go, man, you know, because you get older three years later, and you go, when you're a kid, you don't notice that things are so tough other than they they're different.
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  But once I was three years older, I said, Man, things really got bad, and all of a sudden now we got my father's running around, we got two Cadillacs in the driveway.
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  Uh we're going on vacations, you know, everything is you could you could physically feel the financial improvement, even as a kid.
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  And I always said, Wow, that's amazing that how he did that.
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  And really, the lessons that I learned from watching him do that have stuck with me to this very day, and then I passed them on to my kids.
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  So there's a deeper story about my dad and and his sacrifices that I told in a previous episode or two.
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  You should listen to them all here on America Out Loud.news.
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  Go back and listen to all my episodes.
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  Uh I try to make them interesting and and try and bring a point across, you know, and I hope I do that each week.
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  So my purpose of telling you this is that when I was a kid, I didn't sit and go, I wonder how people got successful, but I had eyeballs in my head.
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  I could see other people were successful.
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  I could see my father became successful.
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  And uh I watched it, you know, as you start to do sports, you see the guys and the girls who are really good at what they do, how do they do it?
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  And that's why I loved autobiographies.
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  I'd like to read about these famous people in history and the things that they did.
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  What decisions did they make at certain points in their life that made a different to them and all those around them?
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  And I found that interesting.
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  My wife, when I first met her, when I first met Kathy, uh, she was a big reader.
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  She loved to read, she loved to read, and she read all kinds of stuff, but she wasn't a fan of the autobiographies.
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  She liked the fiction books, and she read lots of different kinds of fiction books, VC Andrews.
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  I mean, that was a big a big thing that she was reading, and she read Stephen King.
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  And she said, Hey, did you ever read Stephen King?
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  And I'm like, uh no, not really, you know, maybe some short stories I read here and there, but I she goes, Have you ever read the book, The Stand?
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  And I said, No, what's it about?
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  She goes, Oh, it's great.
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  It's an end of the world story.
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  Um, where basically it's God versus the devil, and what what they do is there's a disease, uh, like the zombie apocalypse thing.
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  Instead of zombies, though, what it does is it wipes out almost everyone on the planet, and the only people that are left break down into two camps, God's camp or the devil's camp.
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  And then they have to have a battle, and you have to make your stand, right?
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  What are you gonna do to stand?
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  Well, if you haven't read it and you like you like adventure or you like it, it's there's not really a lot of horror in it.
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  It's just the characters are just absolutely amazing.
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  And I read that book, and it changed my perspective on many things, including writing.
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  Because I had never delved that deeply into fiction.
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  And what I found was Stephen King was very talented, and his his writing was so rich that you felt you were in there with him.
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  You know, I would I was I was there, I was with these people.
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  And then I read uh Salem's Lot, which was amazing.
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  And I ended up reading pretty much the whole King catalog, and I really enjoyed it.
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  And I I guess the point of all of this is that this.
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  My kids knew I liked Stephen King, so they got me this book, Stephen King on Writing.
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  And when I read it, it was broken down into two parts.
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  The first part was Stephen King giving you his um giving you his opinion on the skills of writing and how he comes up with an idea, how he fleshes out characters and what he does.
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  And it really is very interesting for a young writer to hear a successful person, kind of like an autobiography, um tell their story and how they do their work.
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  Well, I started writing.
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  I started writing and I started writing all kinds of stories, and some of them were really terrible stories.
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  Other stories are really pretty good that I have them in a catalog that been locked away for 40 years, you know, uh, and I'm starting to pull them out and rewrite them, and you know, some of the ideas I'm I'm getting fresh ideas.
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  But anyway, the second half of the Stephen King book on writing was a pretty much an editing version of how he wrote um one of his most famous books.
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  Um the um whatchamacallit, the book where the girl had the powers, it's Carrie, C-A-R-R-I.
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  The book was Carrie, and it was his first big movie, and it really launched him uh as a professional writer and a guy who now could pretty much whatever he wanted.
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  And when I read through, because I had read that book, and when I read through it and I saw where he cut out chapters, where he cut down characters, where he he made characters bigger, it really did illuminate for me how to actually write.
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  So I found that very interesting.
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  Another thing I found interesting, and this is I guess the autobiographical part for for me, it meant something as a writer, was that he was talking about when he first started.
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  When he first started writing, he uh couldn't get anybody to read anything of his.
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  Now you talk to anyone who says they're a writer, uh, whether they're published or not, you talk to your friends, your family that are writers, a lot of things we all have in common.
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  We come up with a great idea, we write 20, 30 pages, and then we run out of energy, and then we go on to another story, and we oh, we're so excited about that story.
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  We don't go back and finish our work.
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  Uh it's very common.
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  Um we get writer's block.
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  I never knew what that was until I started writing, and then all of a sudden you have this great idea, you flesh out five, six, seven chapters, and basically you have exhausted your story.
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  You've exhausted the story that you had, the this idea that came to you, and in six chapters or seven chapters, you pretty much ran the whole idea.
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  Now you go, okay, well, now I need 17 more chapters.
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  Where do I come up with that?
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  It's an interesting thing if you want to expand your horizons.
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  Writing does that for you.
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  And I learned how to overcome writer's block.
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  Uh, and that was interesting.
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  But Stephen King said a lot of his early material was rejected over and over and over again.
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  So he started writing articles for science fiction magazines, fantasy magazines, horror magazines.
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  Apparently, there was a lot more of them around than there are today.
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  There was a lot more choices that you could write for.
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  Uh, you know, a lot of our our great writers wrote stories for Playboy.
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  So believe it or not, uh, in addition to beautiful women on the pages of Playboy, they often had a really intense interview, or they had some stories, short stories from different writers.
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  And if you got into Playboy, because like 12 million people read it every month, you know, of course, for the articles, um, you you get you could get seen by a lot of people, and that is often the key to success is to be seen by a lot of people, because why while everybody might not like what you do or say, if you're exposed to a lot of people, uh, you're gonna find people who will like what you do or what you say or what you write, and then you can you move along the track of uh of success.
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  So I think that the profound thing from here and the point of the Stephen King story, as an entrepreneur, he kept writing and writing and writing.
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  Matter of fact, he wrote one article um about one of his, it was a short story.
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  He did tons of short stories, and he would sell them.
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  All of a sudden he'd get a check for $25 or a check for $50 or a check for $40.
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  And that's how him and his wife Tabitha were trying to survive.
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  And at some point, I guess she was uh pushing him to, you know, could you get a real job pretty soon?
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  Could you do, could you do real, could you go to work every day?
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  You know, I know the writing thing is important, and that's great, and I might not have this story exactly right because I wasn't in their kitchen.
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  But this is kind of what I've gleaned from the uh from the book, is that there was pressure on Stephen King to go get a real job, you know, and believe me, I understand that.
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  If I had to uh make money off of my writing, I wrote for 15 years before I got my first check for writing.
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  It was a long time.
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  And if I had to feed my family on that, I wouldn't have been feeding them.
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  So anyway, he wrote this story, and it was to a pretty popular magazine, and he sent it in, and the editor sent it back to him with a note on it that says, Yeah, good try.
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  The story is terrible.
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  Why don't you try being a plumber or something to that effect?
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  You know, don't be a writer, this is really not a good story.
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  And Stephen King had a uh like a clipboard, and he would keep all of his rejections on the clipboard.
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  And he said he had dozens and dozens and dozens of rejection letters, which that's another thing you'll find as a writer.
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  Uh trying to get an uh an agent is almost impossible.
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  Uh, and you're gonna get it, you're gonna get tons of rejection letters.
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  That's one of the you know, you can't have thin skin in in the game.
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  And he got this letter and he put it on his clipboard.
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  Well, lo and behold, um, many years later, he's now a big super duper success, and one of his books comes out that is based on the short story, and this publisher wrote to him and said, you know, Stephen King, you're now one of the biggest writers in the world, and I think you sent me something a long time ago, and I rejected it, and now it look at this, you know, basically a a Maya culpa.
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  And Stephen King said, Yeah, you know, I got it right here on my clipboard.
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  He kept that all those, he kept all the rejections because he wanted to see what was going on with his career.
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  And this is this is an important thing to to look at um how do you gauge where you're going.
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  How do you tell if you're making progress in life?
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  So I found that uh really very interesting.
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  I found the writing thing, and that's what I did.
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  I I just was so I was so amazed by somebody I thought was so amazingly talented, and I said I would look at my stuff and say, you know, that's a great idea, and the first two chapters are good, and then it really stinks.
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  Um, but I kept at it, and I I wanted to keep a clipboard.
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  I really did, but I I never kept a rejection clipboard.
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  And the first time I got accepted as a writer, I had an idea to write about police work, what it's really like to be a cop.
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  And it wasn't um, it wasn't a book, it was a uh uh an article that I wanted to write called Behind the Badge with Joe Pangaro.
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  And I pitched it to if I pitched one, I pitched 20 or 25 newspapers, magazines.
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  I said, this would be great because it's not about cops for cops, it's about what it's like to be a cop for the citizens.
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  So our citizens can understand what it's like to be a cop and work on your holidays, or to go to a really gruesome call, or hold somebody's hand as they die, or some of the funny things that cops see.
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  Um people when they're drunk, how they behave, and and you know, everybody said, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't see it.
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  And then one newspaper, a small newspaper, but it had been around for a very long time in Asbury Park called The Coaster.
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  The coaster has been around for many, many years.
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  It's a staple of Asbury Park, and it's one of those um newspapers that talks about local things, and they have local dining and they have local events and the mayor's in there and the county prosecutor, and you know, the political people have something to say, and there's stories about old people and young people in the school.
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  It's it's it's a community newspaper, only it's not like the free ones that they give away.
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  It's actually the real newspaper, people have to pay for it, they have subscriptions.
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  And the editor, a woman named Ellen Carroll, uh, all of a sudden my phone rings one day, and she's like, Hey, is this Joe?
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  I said, Yes.
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  Joe, this is Ellen Carroll from the coaster.
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  You know, I've been thinking about your idea.
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  I got your your uh letter here, and I've been thinking about it and thinking about it and thinking about it, and I keep reading it and putting it down, and I said, you know what?
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  It might be interesting.
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  This is community-related stuff.
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  Uh let's give it a try.
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  You think you can have a a column to me by next week?
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  And I said, sure, sure, how b how long?
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  She goes, well, yeah, let's keep it keep it to less than a thousand words.
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  Now, a thousand words is a lot of words, all right, in an article, but she let's keep it to less than that.
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  Uh send me a headshot picture of you and this, that, and the other thing.
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  Now, as a cop, I had to get permission of my chief to write, especially if I was gonna send put a picture of me out there uh in my uniform, you know, because then you're kind of representing the department.
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  And if you say something that's inappropriate or people disagree with, you can bring disrepute on your agency.
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  So I had to talk to her and say, listen, I can't come on as Detective Joe or uh Sergeant Joe or anything like that.
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  I have to.
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  Come on as Joe Pangaro, and I can say that I'm a law enforcement officer, but I can't say my agency, and I can't say, you know, specific cases and this, that, and the other thing.
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  She goes, sure, let's give it a try.
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  So I went to my chief and I said, Chief, I want to write.
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  They're going to give me an opportunity to write about this.
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  This is what it's about.
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  And I'm not going to mention it.
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  Well, don't you mention the PD, don't you do this, then, don't talk about it, but go ahead.
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  And he gave me written permission to do it.
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  And I wrote my first article on something I can't even remember what it was like one of the calls that we go on.
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  What's it like to go on a robbery call?
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  Or what's it like to go on a missing child call?
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  And all of a sudden, people started writing to the paper going, this was really great.
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  I really like this.
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  I didn't know it was like that to be a cop.
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  Well, that column ran for five years.
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  And every week I had, you know, different columns just about what it was like to be a police officer.
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  And I was very satisfied, and I thought of Stephen King, and I'm like, hey, I didn't give up.
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  And I guess the point of my story here on our Friday night roundup is that whatever you have in your mind, don't give up.
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  Don't give up on it.
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  If it's if it's a dream you have, stick with it.
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  And I these are the kind of things I think about on a on an evening when I sit back with my coffee.
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  Now, after we come back from our break in a few minutes, and I have an adult beverage, I might have some different thoughts.
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  But right now, I'm enjoying this coffee here.
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  And I'm enjoying thinking about how my writing started.
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  So the first article that I ever wrote that got published in a big way, you know, besides, you know, the newspaper was great because people, lots of people, every age group, everybody was writing.
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  A few people wrote in to say, we hate the cops, the cops are horrible.
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  But for the large majority of people, um, they were very appreciative of the insight into what it's like to be a police officer.
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  And it was, it was really satisfying to have people read my work.
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  All right, that's the bottom line.
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  It was it was like great, people are actually reading it.
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  Well, I wrote, I had an experience where an officer that I knew that I, a guy I grew up with was a police officer, and he killed himself.
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  He committed suicide.
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  Now, at the time I had no idea how prevalent suicide is in law enforcement.
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  Matter of fact, of all the professions you can be in this country, the number one profession usually that results in suicides, either during the career or afterwards in retirement, is law enforcement.
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  It's it's an epidemic, just like the military, they say 22 military personnel, active duty and retired, kill themselves a day.
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  22 a day.
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  That's a lot.
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  Well, a lot of cops kill themselves.
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  Matter of fact, when we look at the statistics every year, say there are 150 police officers murdered uh on duty.
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  Uh car crashes or get shot or get killed answering to calls.
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  Horrible, horrible that we lose so many people.
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  But you'll find sometimes almost double that loss to suicide.
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  And I was just, I had no idea.
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  First of all, I had no idea it was going to be a cop.
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  I kind of fell into the profession.
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  And then here I am writing, and this person I knew, this guy I knew.
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  He rose to the rank of captain.
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  He rose to the rank of captain in his police department, and he seemed to really enjoy it.
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  I reached out to him and said, Hey, you haven't talked to you in a long time.
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  I'm a cop too, and you're a cop.
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  And you know, it was really interesting to talk about this career because both of us were musicians, and we never thought we'd be cops, and both ended up being cops.
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  And then he killed himself.
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  And it turns out that he had some problems with a female dispatcher.
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  He was married, and there was some accusations or whatever, and he ended up killing himself.
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  And I was I was really I don't even know what I thought at the time.
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  I was just really shocked.
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  Nobody I knew killed themselves.
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  You know, I know that happens a lot in the world, but nobody in my circles ever killed themselves.
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  And then about six months later, another officer that I knew from a nearby town killed himself.
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  And I was just shocked because I met the guy at PBA events, and you know, he's a fun guy.
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  Actually, no, he's hanging in his closet.
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  And I didn't know what to think about that.
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  I i it was hard.
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  So I started to look into it, started to uh research it a little bit.
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  And I realized how many people, how many police officers, men and women, do this, how many times they take their lives.
• 24:23
  And I guess what I've come to understand in all of this time is that the average person sees about three, maybe four traumatic events in their life.
• 24:33
  The average police officer in their career experiences between seven and a thousand seven hundred and a thousand traumatic experiences.
• 24:43
  And what became very clear is that these experiences are like they're like a cancer.
• 24:50
  And in law enforcement, what I noticed is that all the guys and girls, um, they don't show weakness.
• 24:58
  They don't show weakness to each other, you know, they they keep it all bottled in.
• 25:02
  They go to the most horrific scenes that that are devastating to see what happened to someone, uh, children killed in an accident, or people brutalized.
• 25:12
  And they don't we don't talk about it.
• 25:15
  We handle the call.
• 25:16
  We we use gallows humor sometime.
• 25:18
  That was shocking to me when I heard these senior officers making jokes about something that was horrible, and I thought they were these people are terrible.
• 25:26
  And then as I experienced my career, I found out that that is a way of coping.
• 25:30
  That's what gallows humor is.
• 25:33
  You cope with these horrible things.
• 25:35
  The only way you can make it in your head to get through it is to sometimes make a joke so that you can move past it because there are so many and they're non-stop.
• 25:44
  And you start to realize that during a career, when you see so many traumatic events, and then you have some kind of a problem in your own life, it can really become overwhelming.
• 25:56
  So I get I'm gonna guess it's some form of a PTSD, and it gets it can be so overwhelming when something happens to you personally that all of it caves in and people see a way out as as suicide.
• 26:09
  You know, this I gotta end the pain.
• 26:11
  I'm gonna kill myself and get out of here.
• 26:13
  And I I was crazy about it, and I wrote this article uh after I did a lot of research called The Tragic Toll of Police Work.
• 26:22
  The tragic toll of police work.
• 26:24
  And I tried to put some statistics in.
• 26:26
  I tried to put in some understanding of why I thought was happening and then what we could do to prevent that.
• 26:31
  And I sent it into the FBI.
• 26:33
  They have a worldwide magazine, the FBI Worldwide Magazine.
• 26:37
  And it's published and printed in in countries all around the world.
• 26:41
  And at the time, the publisher wrote back to me and said, Joe, I really like this article.
• 26:46
  I think this might help some people or bring bring some of this to light.
• 26:50
  We're going to publish it.
• 26:52
  And I got that letter, and I remember looking at that letter and being like, Re-the FBI is gonna publish something I wrote, and then it hit the magazine, the FBI Worldwide Magazine.
• 27:05
  I got emails from people around the world.
• 27:08
  Men and women whose husband, wife, mother, brother, sister, father, that were law enforcement people, killed themselves from countries all around the world.
• 27:18
  And they were thanking me for the article and saying that, you know, it it helped them to maybe understand why their loved one did this.
• 27:26
  That to me showed me the power of writing and the impact it could have.
• 27:31
  And that brought me to this point right now where I get to sit here with you and talk about things, right?
• 27:38
  So we need to express ourselves.
• 27:39
  So I'm gonna finish up this coffee and probably go grab an adult beverage for the second half of our little get together.
• 27:46
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• 32:57
  You can just Google uh Tragic Toll of Police Work, Joseph Pangaro, and you will see uh it could come up in the FBI magazine.
• 33:05
  There's several of the FBI published publicized published quite a few of my articles eventually.
• 33:11
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• 33:13
  It got published in Australia in a magazine down there, it got published in England.
• 33:19
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• 33:21
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  Okay.
• 35:35
  So Friday wrap-up.
• 35:39
  The president, President Trump, is mustering quite a bit of forces, military forces all around Iran.
• 35:48
  And it's come up in conversation with quite a few people.
• 35:53
  You know, what are we doing?
• 35:54
  Here's the peace president, right?
• 35:56
  That's what he calls himself, the peace president.
• 35:58
  He solved eight wars.
• 36:00
  And he's also bombed out the nuclear facilities of Iran.
• 36:05
  He has gone after terrorists and wiped them out.
• 36:08
  He's grabbed Maduro out of uh Venezuela and brought him to justice.
• 36:13
  He's talking about going after Greenland, uh, whether he invades or works out a deal.
• 36:20
  And people are saying, you know, well, well, what's he doing going after Iran?
• 36:24
  So I think I think we need to spend a little time thinking about this in a in a mature way.
• 36:31
  So one of the problems I see with us as Americans, and I and I've said this um I've said this in the past, but it's it's worth repeating, is that the problem that we have in America is that we often see the whole world, we think the whole world is the same as America.
• 36:52
  People still see things the same way we see things here in America.
• 36:56
  It's almost like the fog of being American for many people.
• 37:02
  They think, you know, the way we view justice and fairness and our constitution and all these things, that the whole world sees things just like that.
• 37:12
  And the reality is the whole world does not see things like that.
• 37:17
  The whole world for the most part, the Western, the Western countries are probably the closest to us, though most of our European Western countries are going socialist.
• 37:28
  They're starting to slip away.
• 37:30
  We see a big socialist communist movement here in America starting to take hold, where we're seeing these people elected to uh powerful political positions.
• 37:41
  We see our young people uh in in majority numbers, people at 35 and under who say that socialism would be a better way to go than capitalism.
• 37:52
  We're seeing all of these kind of things taking place in our country.
• 37:57
  And we say, well, the whole world, you know, we shouldn't be the policeman of the world.
• 38:04
  America, uh America had slaves.
• 38:06
  America, you know, took land that didn't belong to them.
• 38:09
  Who's America to do anything in the world?
• 38:11
  And this is a this is a really twisted way of looking at history, and we have to really understand what what we've done to ourselves, you know.
• 38:23
  Um So I talked in the past about the Constitution.
• 38:28
  It could certainly be a suicide document.
• 38:30
  We could certainly vote in all these socialists, we could vote in communists, we could vote in representatives that are not capitalists or freedom-loving Americans, and they could vote that uh we're gonna turn away from democracy and liberty and and freedom and republicanism, and and I don't mean Republican Party, you know, the Republic.
• 38:51
  We're a republic, uh representative republic.
• 38:54
  We're gonna turn away from that.
• 38:55
  We're gonna be a socialist government.
• 38:56
  We could vote for people who who would vote for that.
• 38:59
  And America couldn't come to an end.
• 39:02
  So the great Ronaldus Magnus, Ronald Reagan used to say we are one generation away from losing our freedom.
• 39:09
  And I used to say, yeah, yeah, I don't think so.
• 39:12
  I don't think so.
• 39:12
  Well, while there were liberals around when I was a kid, the majority of us loved America.
• 39:20
  The majority of us wanted to have jobs, make a lot of money, and live in beautiful houses and you know, try and afford a beach house and have a nice car, and we wanted to provide for our families, and we weren't thinking about being socialists or communists, like the young people today are.
• 39:35
  Matter of fact, I remember the the impetus to love America and to want to, hey, if anybody does anything to America, I'm going.
• 39:44
  I'm gonna do it, you know, that kind of thing.
• 39:46
  And I asked today if we had a conflict somewhere today, and you're thinking about the young people of today.
• 39:55
  Would they line up to go fight for America?
• 40:00
  Would they go running down to recruitment offices and say, hey, I'm willing to sacrifice my very life at the altar of freedom to protect America.
• 40:10
  Well, I don't know that we're in that place anymore.
• 40:13
  Now I know the younger generation now, the turning point USA generation of young men and women that turn towards Trump in the last election.
• 40:22
  I think there's there's a there's a impulse that maybe some of that is coming back, you know, after living through Biden.
• 40:30
  After living through Biden and seeing this socialism and seeing the open borders and seeing all the trouble it caused and the crime, I think we're seeing maybe an impulse back towards a more traditional view of America.
• 40:42
  I sure hope so.
• 40:44
  But as we look at the Iran situation, and people are saying, you know, what is Trump doing?
• 40:51
  I think for the first time in a long time.
• 40:54
  One of the things that I like about Donald Trump, and I don't, I don't, I don't like his caustic comments, I don't like his mean tweets, I don't care.
• 41:01
  But you know what?
• 41:01
  That doesn't affect me, because I know what the guy's all about.
• 41:04
  I understand him.
• 41:06
  Uh I was talking to a liberal guy the other day, and he was telling me, oh my gosh, I'm so scared of this guy.
• 41:11
  He's got I said, scared, why are you scared of him?
• 41:14
  Because he says he's gonna do these.
• 41:15
  I said, but you have to look at what he actually does.
• 41:18
  He doesn't actually go out and do these things.
• 41:21
  He throws them out there to get a reaction, right?
• 41:24
  Uh throw up a balloon to see if people uh react to it.
• 41:27
  What are they gonna do?
• 41:28
  So this whole thing with Iran, what I like about it is that Trump is now thinking down the road beyond his next three years.
• 41:37
  I mean, three years he's out of office, he can't run again, he even though he jokes around, he drives these people crazy, saying he could run.
• 41:44
  Uh actually he could run as uh Vance's vice president, Vance could resign, and Trump could become the president.
• 41:50
  Wouldn't that be you would talk about the liberals going out of their minds?
• 41:53
  Oh, that would be so awesome to work that out.
• 41:56
  Um I would love to see that, but I don't think that's realistic.
• 42:00
  Um things that Trump is doing is kind of like the things our enemies do.
• 42:06
  He's looking down the road a little more than just his three years.
• 42:10
  Americans, we look at things, you know, for next Thursday.
• 42:13
  What's gonna happen next Thursday?
• 42:15
  We don't look 10 years, 20 years, 30 years down the road.
• 42:19
  I was a young person when the Iranian revolution took place, and they took our hostages, uh, American hostages, and they held them.
• 42:29
  And Iran, you can say a lot about the Shah, and you didn't like the way he ran things.
• 42:34
  Iran is a country of very highly educated people, they had a good economy, they were uh friends with America, they they were not this Islamic republic that was pushing terror around the world.
• 42:48
  And the there was a movement, a movement towards more restrictive life, and the religious people uh of Iran took over.
• 42:58
  The uh Ayatollah Khomeini, who had been banished to France, was brought back to be the leader, and he totally transformed that country from an open, free society, and I don't mean free like America, but it was free.
• 43:11
  Society, women could go to school, women could wear the clothes they wanted, they had music, they had dancing, they had everything that a normal country had.
• 43:19
  They were kind of westernized, I think.
• 43:21
  And the Shah, uh the Shah was deposed, and he fled to America, and the Ayatollah Khomeini took over, right?
• 43:30
  And uh now we for 50 years we've been dealing with this bloodthirsty maniacs uh in Iran.
• 43:39
  Now, that certainly can lead us to a bigger discussion of the motivations behind why they're like that, why they're the way they are.
• 43:50
  And this is what I say the whole world sees the world in its own lights in the in its own in its own way, and we have a tendency to look at the world and think it's like America.
• 44:01
  Well, the Iranian revolution ushered back in a ancient form of government, you know, the the Islamic government of you know, a thousand years ago.
• 44:14
  And it imposed Sharia law on a country, and it shut people down, and women couldn't go to school.
• 44:19
  They have to wear the burkers, they got to cover up, it became a male-dominated society again.
• 44:24
  Uh, that was just it's very difficult for the people, and they've tried several times to break away, and we've never been there to help.
• 44:32
  We we've given them some stuff, but most of our leaders have been appeasers.
• 44:38
  They just appease the Iranians, uh, the leadership, and nothing ever really changes.
• 44:45
  And this argument I was having with this young man the other day, he was so afraid of what Trump's doing, you know, uh putting military uh assets into the to the waters around Iran and you know, gearing up, sending, you know, the uh the Navy and all the ships and planes over there.
• 45:01
  He was so scared because he says, you know what?
• 45:03
  Uh we should just leave it alone, leave it alone.
• 45:06
  There was a great nuclear agreement in place uh with Barack Obama, and then Trump came in and he tore it up, and then guess what?
• 45:13
  Then they started making nuclear weapons.
• 45:16
  And by making that comment, what I realized was this young man and many people really have no idea about what we're actually dealing with in the world.
• 45:28
  We all think that the world is like America.
• 45:30
  They made a deal, and Trump came in and got rid of the deal.
• 45:34
  So of course they went back to nuclear weapons.
• 45:36
  I had to say, listen, do you think that they weren't gonna make nuclear weapons anyway?
• 45:42
  You think they weren't gonna cheat and lie and do what they had to do, just like North Korea.
• 45:47
  How many agreements did North Korea sign for, oh, we'll get rid of our missiles, we're gonna give you, oh, we can do this, we'll do that, and then they just kept testing and testing until one day they they lit off a nuke and said, Hey, guess what?
• 45:59
  We got nukes now.
• 46:00
  We're done with all your stupid agreements.
• 46:02
  The Iranians were signing agreement after agreement after agreement, and they were still spinning uh spinning those things making uranium uh to bomb-level uranium.
• 46:14
  Um they were still pursuing intercontinental ballistic missiles.
• 46:20
  These people, this regime, not the Iranian people, the regime is evil.
• 46:25
  They believe in destroying Israel, destroying America, and they want to take over the world.
• 46:30
  That is that is probably at the heart of this.
• 46:34
  And we we in America, the other thing that we have besides thinking, everybody sees the world the way we do, and everybody wants justice, and everybody's you just gotta be fair to them and they'll be nice to you.
• 46:43
  It it's you start to see this gap between people who think like that and people who think more clearly.
• 46:51
  People who think with common sense.
• 46:53
  When someone tells you what they're going to do, especially when they're what they're going to do to you, you have to listen to them and believe that that they're gonna do it.
• 47:04
  North Korea is a perfect example.
• 47:06
  Uh agreement, agreement, agreement, oh, we're gonna stop this, that then, oh we did it anyway, and now we got a bomb.
• 47:12
  Okay, what are you gonna do?
• 47:13
  Right?
• 47:14
  What are you gonna do then?
• 47:15
  Once once one of these countries, these belligerent countries has a nuclear weapon, and they're willing to use it, right?
• 47:23
  See, that's the difference.
• 47:24
  United States, we are a a nuclear power, and we have probably the most nuclear weapons and capabilities to reach anywhere on the globe with our nuclear weapons.
• 47:36
  We don't run around threatening them.
• 47:37
  It's it's more under the mutually assured destruction that we had with the Soviet Union for years.
• 47:43
  We got them, you got them.
• 47:45
  And if we have that kind of a war, we're gonna light the world up and it's all gonna be over for all of us.
• 47:50
  Uh and I think we have been trustworthy with our nuclear arsenal.
• 47:55
  Do you think Vladimir Putin is trustworthy with his nuclear arsenal?
• 48:00
  He has already threatened to use it as a tactical nuclear weapon on a battlefield with Ukraine, or if anybody tries to assist Ukraine in a way that's really detrimental, they will use a nuclear weapon.
• 48:11
  And if any if if NATO does this and that, they'll use a nuclear weapon.
• 48:15
  They are untrustworthy with nuclear weapons, but they got them.
• 48:19
  So therefore that has to be a part of every decision we make.
• 48:23
  Because while you know in a war where we may be threatened like that, of course we would have to use our our weapons, but that would pretty much be the end of the world.
• 48:32
  You know, there would be such devastation.
• 48:34
  It would be a new epoch of human life, is what would happen.
• 48:38
  So when I look at this, and I and I tried to say to this young man, you're so afraid with with Trump.
• 48:44
  Do you realize if we don't deal with Iran now, when they're at their weakest point that they've been at in almost the last 50 years, there's a revolution going on in the streets.
• 48:55
  They killed 30,000 people is the estimate.
• 48:58
  You know, uh Trump is moving the troops in there, they're weak.
• 49:02
  We went in, we devastated their their um their nuclear facilities, but you don't know, we don't know that they don't have two more hidden somewhere else and they're still working on it.
• 49:11
  We don't know that the Russians aren't gonna give them a nuclear weapon or North Korea's gonna help them.
• 49:16
  These people are our enemies, and they have said they want to destroy us.
• 49:21
  So by sitting around with this American fog, well, Barack Obama made a deal and they said they wouldn't do it.
• 49:28
  Do you really believe that?
• 49:30
  I don't believe that for one second that they would have stayed stayed with any kind of a deal.
• 49:35
  They would have been just it would have been just like before World War II, when Hitler was marching on Europe and Chamberlain comes out of a meeting waving a piece of paper.
• 49:44
  We have an agreement.
• 49:46
  We have an agreement, we're gonna be safe, he's not gonna attack us.
• 49:49
  And what happened?
• 49:50
  He ended attacking and attacking all over, and millions and millions of people died because people, when they're afraid.
• 50:00
  Like this young man, when they're afraid, they will do things to appease their fear.
• 50:06
  Now, I don't want to start any kind of a conflict.
• 50:11
  Because you know what?
• 50:12
  They're not my children that are going to have to go fight them.
• 50:14
  I have a hard time with that.
• 50:17
  You know, I'm not, I'm not a hawk that it says we have to do this.
• 50:20
  But the reality is eventually someone is going to have to fight against these people, whether it's now or my grandchildren or my great grandchildren.
• 50:30
  I don't think it's going to be that far down the road because they are going to continue to try and get a nuclear weapon, and eventually they will.
• 50:37
  And then what are you going to do?
• 50:38
  When they light up Tel Aviv.
• 50:40
  What do we do then?
• 50:42
  Do we then launch?
• 50:43
  Does North Korea help out?
• 50:46
  See, this is what Americans don't think about.
• 50:50
  We s we don't see the world the way the rest of the world does.
• 50:53
  We have been blessed here in America with an enlightened world.
• 50:57
  The things that we argue and fight about are so absurd.
• 51:01
  The things that we're talking about that are that are that occupy our lives every single day are so absurd that we're we're lost in this fog.
• 51:11
  That you know we don't we don't think there's the danger out there that there really is.
• 51:14
  Oh, you're just coming up with it because you know you you're a Republican and you ate everybody.
• 51:19
  That's not it.
• 51:21
  I I see what has happened in history.
• 51:24
  When you let bad evil people, bad ideologies, evil ideologies, when you let them uh roll forward, it doesn't, it doesn't turn back.
• 51:37
  It leads to destruction.
• 51:38
  You know, you start out with a socialist government, and if you give it time, it's gonna it's going to morph into horrors for the people, right?
• 51:48
  It's not going to morph into, hey, everyone has a Cadillac and a beach house.
• 51:52
  Isn't that fantastic?
• 51:53
  No.
• 51:53
  Everyone ends up living in a tiny little 700 foot apartment and having to uh eat their pets for food.
• 52:01
  You know, uh look at Venezuela, perfect example.
• 52:04
  All the all the resources they have.
• 52:06
  This place, and then it it floundered into nothing because that is what happens.
• 52:13
  I don't say that because I just want to hate those people.
• 52:16
  I say that because I see what the political system does.
• 52:20
  Capitalism has raised the standard of living for everyone who lives under it.
• 52:26
  Now, are there are there inequities in capitalism?
• 52:29
  Sure there are.
• 52:29
  Of course there are.
• 52:30
  Some people have more than others, some people earn more than others.
• 52:33
  I get that.
• 52:34
  But the reality is you have opportunity in America that you don't have in other places.
• 52:39
  You know, you come up with a good idea, or you work really hard, and you'll be able to feed yourself and take care of your family, and you can maybe rise to a new financial level if you have a good enough idea, or you're willing to work hard enough.
• 52:50
  That's the reality.
• 52:51
  In these socialist countries, there's no incentive to work harder.
• 52:55
  There's no incentive to to come up with new ideas because it just gets taken away from you.
• 53:02
  Somebody else gets the benefit of it.
• 53:04
  And when I see Iran, I know from what I have seen for 50 years that they are a danger to the world.
• 53:14
  They are a danger to us Americans.
• 53:16
  How many hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of Americans are dead today?
• 53:22
  Because the Iranians, either through their proxies, uh have killed our soldiers, civilians, uh, have been involved in terrorism, they fund terrorism.
• 53:34
  That's against us, they attack Israel, all their proxies are attacking Israel, and people just sit back with these blinders on and say, well, if we had just if we had just kept the Obama deal in place, there'd be no nuclear weapon.
• 53:48
  And I I say this this is not just fog.
• 53:51
  This has to be stupidity.
• 53:53
  How do you believe your enemy that you have caught cheating a million times?
• 53:57
  Well, this young man, the other thing he said to me was, well, you know, we had inspections in place, and uh, you know, we could just go and do the inspections and show that they're they're not making the nuclear weapons.
• 54:09
  Has anybody been around long enough to remember what the inspections were like?
• 54:13
  Okay, the team is gonna show up, we're gonna show up at this plant today, we want to inspect your nuclear plant.
• 54:17
  No, no, not today.
• 54:18
  You can't inspect today.
• 54:20
  You gotta come back in six weeks.
• 54:22
  Why would we have to come back in six weeks?
• 54:24
  This is an inspection.
• 54:25
  We have the information that you're you're you're turning uh turbines or whatever the hell it is, making uranium down here, that you're enriching it, you shouldn't be doing it.
• 54:33
  We're here to inspect.
• 54:34
  Open the door, let us inspect.
• 54:35
  No, you're not coming in, you're not inspecting.
• 54:37
  Uh you can inspect later.
• 54:38
  You know what?
• 54:39
  You can go inspect this building over here.
• 54:40
  We're gonna let you inspect that building where there's nothing in the building.
• 54:43
  And people are stupid enough to go, well, they you know, they were doing inspections, they were letting us do it.
• 54:50
  Why is it President Trump had to light up those nuclear facilities and destroy them?
• 54:56
  Because they weren't pursuing a nuclear bomb.
• 54:58
  Well, they're only trying to get nuclear power so they can give power to their people so they can have electricity.
• 55:05
  Well, if you if you took a few minutes to understand what they were doing, enriching the uranium they were enriching, that is not how you make nuclear power.
• 55:13
  That's how you make weapons, right?
• 55:16
  So I think it's a difficult choice what we have to do, but I think the time has come that we we shouldn't let them escape.
• 55:25
  The mullahs have got to go.
• 55:26
  Now, I don't know if we bring back, you know, the the Shah's family or whoever's left to be the king or whatever, or we let them have elections.
• 55:34
  You know, we shouldn't be running Iran.
• 55:36
  That's not my point.
• 55:37
  But we got to get rid of these crazy uh Muslim uh extremist radical government that's there that only wants to kill you and me and everyone else in the West if they could, right?
• 55:49
  And that's not a hit on Islam.
• 55:51
  I know there's millions of millions of people that are that are Islamic that are perfectly peaceful and wonderful people.
• 55:56
  I know a lot of them.
• 55:58
  I know people that are in that religion, and they're not radical crazy nuts.
• 56:03
  But the government of Iran is, and it's a danger to all of us, and that's why I'm not afraid.
• 56:09
  I'm not afraid of Trump.
• 56:10
  Because I hear the words he says, and I know what he's actually done, and I'm not afraid of it.
• 56:16
  All right.
• 56:17
  So we're coming up to a pretty big event.
• 56:20
  I'm gonna shift gears now.
• 56:21
  Look at I gotta have a little coffee.
• 56:23
  Well, maybe the coffee does wind me up a little.
• 56:25
  Did you notice that?
• 56:26
  I'm a little wound up.
• 56:28
  Ah, but it is so good.
• 56:30
  It's nothing like a cup of coffee.
• 56:32
  Alright, so um.
• 56:38
  This this coming week, we have uh like a great American festival that has really grown in prominence over the years.
• 56:47
  It's become a worldwide event to to a lot of uh extent, and that is the NFL's Super Bowl.
• 56:54
  The Super Bowl is coming up very, very soon.
• 56:56
  We have the New England Patriots versus the Seattle Seahawks.
• 57:00
  This is a uh a rematch of uh, I think in the 40s, the 40, 47, 48, something like that.
• 57:08
  Super Bowl.
• 57:08
  I don't remember the exact uh number, but it's a rematch.
• 57:12
  And it should be very interesting to see this game.
• 57:15
  First of all, these players are at the highest level of the sport.
• 57:18
  I love football.
• 57:19
  I played football, I love football.
• 57:21
  Uh I bailed out for a couple of years when they were really woke and the NFL was crazy.
• 57:25
  I wouldn't watch.
• 57:26
  I think there was two seasons.
• 57:27
  I just didn't watch any of it.
• 57:29
  And I missed it.
• 57:30
  Honestly, I missed it.
• 57:31
  I want to thank you all for being out there.
• 57:33
  You can email me, J Pangaro, the letter J, P-A-N-G-A-R-O at AmericaOut Loud dot news.
• 57:41
  You can get to me, tell me what you think, what you agree with or disagree with.
• 57:44
  In the meantime, have a great day, everybody.
• 57:46
  I'm glad I was here and I'm glad you're out there.