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Pro Bowl No More, MLB Players Being Threatened and Ryan Fitzpatrick Calmly Roasting Deshaun Watson · The Regulars

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  My Raiders still haven't picked a quarterback. Burning hell
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  Pro Bowl. And my God, domestic violence is
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  just hilarious. It's hilarious according
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  to, of course, Callaway Golf. Ladies and gentlemen, we got a lot to discuss
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  today. We're The Regulars. I'm Cody Decker. I'm Tanya Rae Fox, and I'm,
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  I'm gonna be the chill one this show. So strap in, let's do
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  this. What a
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  week in the world of sports. What a week in the world of world.
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  What a week in the world of politics. What a week. Just what a fucking
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  week. Tonya Rae Fox. What can I say other than the world is
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  perfectly great and the sports world is even better?
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  Yeah. With literally no problems whatsoever except
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  for, you know, everything is completely on fire.
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  Oh, and Callaway Golf is the weirdest fucking thing I've
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  ever seen in my life. Amazing stuff. I honestly, I'm interested
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  to get to that part of our, uh, episode so much because I
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  have— I feel like I have a detail for you that's only gonna make it
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  worse for you. Oh, thank God, because all of the research that I have
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  unfortunately done on it has, uh,
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  has only made me fully lose faith in humanity. And I can't
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  wait to tell you what actually has made me angrier than just about everything else
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  about it, because amazingly The video that they made, which is
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  dogshit, yeah, um, isn't even scratching the surface
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  actually of what's pissing me off. Okay, so I'm really excited
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  when we get to Media Corner because, dear God, you all have lost your fucking
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  minds. We have good— some good— I'm actually— I'm gonna look forward to our Media
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  Corner. We have some other stuff to get through today, Cody. You know,
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  you and I are feeling the, the full moon energy from last
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  night. I feel like, you know, We both came— like, when I arrived
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  at your house, we were both in the same exact mood for wildly different reasons.
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  But this show usually makes us feel better, so we'll exorcise our demons.
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  Yes. And drink a lot of alcohol in the process. I'm very excited for Sauvignon
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  Blanc and the opportunity to talk shit. How do you feel
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  whatever? Like, people have been like, we want to support you. Please do. So what
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  on YouTube specifically, but also we can set up subscriberships on YouTube.
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  We can do those things. So that's the big goal right now. You know what's
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  another thing I'm looking forward to doing? This is— I'm not kidding, this is something
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  that I really look forward to doing with this show. A merch store is something
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  I really want to do. Merch is like— I feel like could be huge
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  real winners. And, uh, you know,
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  there's— we, we have made it very clear as we
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  enter into football season, I've already had people reach out to us you know,
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  be and we just kind of played around with it until we thought we got
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  arrow, which was yours. Yeah. I have no idea why I like
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  it. Yeah. Makes no sense. It really— everybody who first saw the
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  logo was like, I don't get the arrow. And I was like, well,
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  uh, you're gonna like it. Yes, you're gonna— she sent it to me and I
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  said, I don't get the arrow. And then as I kept looking at it,
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  then we looked at the older logo, I'm like, I need the arrow. Yeah,
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  the arrow is necessary because we are the— and then we are the
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  Regulars. The Regulars, you know, like Megan
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  Thee Stallion. Yeah, we are the Ohio State.
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  Yeah. And it's, it's for some reason, a much
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  bigger topic of conversation than I could have ever anticipated. And I think that's a
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  good thing. I do too. All press is good press. You're right. You're right.
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  You're right. Why is that there? Yeah, you just asked that question. That's why it's
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  there. Because you're asking. Yeah. But yeah, let's just fucking kick it off and let's
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  go ahead and— ooh, that's actually a good point. Looks like the devil to me.
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  It is. Listen, it really kind of is. Kind of is. Now I think about
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  it, it is a little bit of a devil. And if we ever, if we
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  ever turn good, we'll add some little angel wings on the other side. I refuse
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  to ever turn good. But let's get right into it. Let's start with our headline
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  number 1, ladies and gentlemen. Tanya, the Pro Bowl is dead and
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  our long national nightmare has come to an end. This is— so the
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  NFL is ending the Pro Bowl. Uh, player honors will remain, but alternates
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  will no longer be acknowledged. Uh, that's obvious. So there will be 88 Pro
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  Bowlers named. That's the standard operating procedure.
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  And then because there's no game to be played, there will be no need for
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  alternates. Now, before I get into the details and the few questions that people might
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  have, uh, let's just both say it off the top. Usually when the NFL
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  does something, it sucks. This was the right
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  choice. This has been the right choice. This was the right choice. I hate to
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  say it, like, I feel like the Pro Bowl has actually been dead for years
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  and years and years. And I'll actually pinpoint for me, I don't know what your
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  thoughts are on when the Pro Bowl legitimately died. It was the moment
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  it left Hawaii. Yeah, the moment it was no longer in Hawaii. And by the
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  way, it was even dogshit there too for the last couple of years because it
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  wasn't really a game. It was an exhibition. There was like fun stuff. Stuff coming
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  out of it. Yeah, and we got like shit out of it. There was a
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  tradition to it. We got movies like Blue Crush. I'm not saying that it was
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  a fucking massive winner, but I loved that it was about the fucking Pro
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  Bowl in Hawaii. Um, I, I don't know, man. It's just like,
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  I, I— there was something about it. But I think there's also a thing that's
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  a little nostalgic for me when it comes to the old Pro Bowl, because the
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  old Pro Bowl my dad would go to every single year. Oh really? Every single
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  year. Oh yeah, he would go to Hawaii there. He would stay at Turtle Bay.
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  He would meet and rub shoulders with all these guys. I remember my dad would
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  come back, he's like, yeah, I met Lawrence Taylor. He was, he was hammered.
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  And I said, and then it was great for me because then I got to
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  interview Lawrence Taylor and he was hammered. So my dad was right. One thing about
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  Lawrence Taylor, he's going to be hammered.
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  So yeah, I completely agree. I think that that was, that was sort of the
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  nail in the coffin. It was already dying. It was the nail in the coffin
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  when they moved it out of, out of Hawaii. In place of the games,
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  Pro Bowlers will be invited to Los Angeles for an in-person celebration
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  in February. The process of selecting Pro Bowlers will remain
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  the same. Ballots cast by fans, players, and coaches are weighted equally
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  to determine the selections of the 88 players on offense,
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  defense, and special teams across both conferences.
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  So here's a good sort of idea of just like how,
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  how many extra Pro Bowlers we've had over the years is in 1998,
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  there were just 7 Pro Bowl selections who did not attend the Honolulu game,
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  including the 5 who were playing in that year's Super Bowl. 20,
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  20 years later in Orlando, that number had ballooned to 35.
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  Yeah. Which means you get 35 alternates or you get all these alternates,
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  right? Which is like, I thought it was kind of cool for a while.
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  There would be certain— there's always certain alternates where you're like, I'm really glad that
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  they got a Pro Bowl nod. Yes. But like, then there's people who you're just
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  like, it just feels egregious. And then it's sort of shifting the,
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  you know, the way we use Pro Bowls, whether people like it or not,
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  is sort of irrelevant. It's a same as All-Stars, um,
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  in these other sports. And so when you see someone is a 4 or 5-time
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  Pro Bowler, that, that means something. And like, and until
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  we make it not mean something, it means something. Yeah. Um, there's salary
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  implications obviously to this, which is why they're not going to get rid of Pro
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  Bowl nods altogether, which again, I don't think you could do because there's too much,
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  you know, outside of the fact that there's salary implications, the— they are obligated through
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  the CBA to have some sort of thing thing like this where you can be
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  named to it, and then you, you know, there are, um,
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  certain, you know, bonuses and things, incentives. No, there are tied to this a ton.
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  So, but there are— we are going to lose some, some Pro Bowl nods
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  here. We are. We will. Like, this is what the players wanted though.
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  That was the final thing I wanted to say, is that the players wanted this.
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  Yeah. And so, and by the way, I know all of you had your jokes,
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  and I get it because I've made the joke myself many a times. I ripped
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  I ripped your poor dude apart. Who'd you rip? I ripped some dude
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  from the fan. Oh really? The Shador joke? Yeah. What was the Shador? Listen,
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  I've made the joke in the past as well. I would have ripped you too.
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  I usually— but the joke is normally— I'm just always saying like that,
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  excuse me, that's Pro Bowler Shador Sanders. And I would do that just as a
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  little gag. I like that. Yeah, but that's about as far as I go.
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  Yeah. Uh, so whenever anybody talks shit about Shador Sanders, like, excuse me,
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  that's Pro Bowler Shador Sanders. Exactly. Uh, but no, it was the joke that Uh,
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  I saw someone made it. Yeah, a lot of people made it. It was— I
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  believe it was James Coe, right? And fun fact, I don't know James Coe.
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  No. And I haven't met him. Again, like, don't really— like, I'm at the point
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  where I'm like, I, I just don't care if you're gonna make a hack joke
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  for internet clout. Guess what? I'm better at it. I'm better
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  at internet clout. You are very good. That's the thing. Like, that's the new thing
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  I've decided is, okay, you wanted to make the hack joke? Ah, too bad
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  I showed up. The wrong person saw the
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  gag. Yeah, that sucks for you. But here's the deal, like, um,
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  Listen, the players wanted it. I think we can all agree we wanted this gone.
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  No, this is the first time, Cody, is this the first time in like
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  recent memory that fans, the league, and the players all wanted the same
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  thing and got it? Dude, listen, it's been a clown show the last couple of
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  years. And I'm not saying that as like how we always use, oh, clown show,
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  clown show. No, no, this has been a legitimate— and it's been understandable,
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  right? Like, why would the players want to play in this? Why would the
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  organizations want them to play in this? No, it makes all the
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  sense in the world. So we're going to fucking flag football and guys jumping into
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  ball pits and shit. Like, fuck me, get rid of this.
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  Thank God. And make it just like— make it an award ceremony. Like, just— that's
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  what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, just make it like— they made it like a black
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  tie thing, you know? It's gonna be in Los Angeles. You and I are somehow
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  gonna score ourselves an invite. I'm excited for this now. We're gonna figure it out,
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  guys. We said something nice about you, NFL. Invite us. We will
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  be nice. We'll be cool, NFL. I will be charming. Firmly believe— and I'm
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  not saying this as a joke— I think this is a winner because
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  it's going to be during Radio Row week. It's going to be a whole thing.
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  Like, this is how it should be done. I think you guys made the right
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  decision. I think the players are gonna be happy about it. Is it gonna be
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  in— so is it not going to be in between the Super Bowl and between
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  the playoffs? Oh, it's got to be. It will because it's going to be in
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  LA, which is where Radio Row is, right? It'll be in LA this year.
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  Like, are they going to do it? I wonder if they are going to make
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  it adjacent to the Super Bowl every year. Um, so like next
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  year it'll be in like Vegas. Oh no, is it next year in Atlanta?
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  I thought next year was Vegas. Is next year Vegas? I thought next year was
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  Vegas and then Atlanta, but I might be wrong. I might be. Next year is
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  Atlanta. I want to go to— I cannot wait to go to Atlanta for Super
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  Bowl. Really? It's going to be— I love Atlanta. The truth is, I have no
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  idea if I'm going to be able to go to Atlanta for Super Bowl.
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  I just will see what, what's going to be going on at that point.
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  Cody, if I'm going, you're going. We're figuring it out. That's going to definitely be
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  the goal. No, we're committing. Don't, don't even say
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  such a thing. We're going. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just— you're right.
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  Fuck it. We're going. The regulars are going to be there because at this point,
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  this show is going to be fucking batshit. For a fact, you know about manifesting.
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  No, no, no, let's be real clear. I, uh, I feel very good
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  about where this show is going. We're going to Atlanta.
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  Yeah, I can't stress enough, 2028. I've— I— and I'm
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  not saying this as a joke, like, I've been very lucky in this industry over
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  the years. And this is a— I will hope that you take this as a
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  compliment to you because this is what I mean it as. I have felt very
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  good about some shows I've been on. Like, I— like, the only show in my
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  career that, like, I was, like, super proud of was legitimately what I
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  was doing with Michelle. I was like, this is it. This is the show
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  that it needs to be. And of course, other people had short-sighted
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  views on exactly what good content is, but that is just what it
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  is. But this is the only other thing that I've ever done that I'm like,
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  I am so proud of this. And I'm more proud of this than
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  I am Beetle and Decker. Because you had to do it from the ground up.
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  It's something that's entirely ours that we just completely built
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  from the ground up. And the people that are coming along for it that fucking
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  get it, they fucking get it. So like, I am— I'm excited for
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  where this is going to be. And you bet your ass we're going to be
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  in fucking Atlanta doing a live show in front of 2,000 fucking people. Los Angeles.
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  We are going to be the official sports podcast of Los Angeles, whether you all
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  like it or not. And all you people that are with us right now,
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  we're not forgetting you, because you're going to fucking come with us. You're the ground
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  roots. Want to know the best thing? I know we're off track right now,
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  but want to know the best thing about me? I remember my OGs. I always
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  have. I do it on Threads. I've done it— like, I don't forget
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  who was following me early on. Like, I never fucking do. I make
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  friends with them. I get into the DMs. Like, I don't— that's— that is like
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  one thing that I'm dead serious about. Every— I have so many
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  followers on my, my social media now, and there's like 25
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  people that are my OGs. Like, if they're commenting, those are my people.
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  Yep. So yeah, we're, we're like that. We're about that shit. Uh, back to the
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  Pro Bowl though. What I will say is, uh,
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  you know, the, the lack of the game doesn't bother me at all. I think
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  having people earn the Pro Bowl nod is, is great.
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  I— it does feel like I'm interested to see
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  how they differentiate it from being an All-Pro,
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  because if you're going to have a whole award show type—
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  not award show, but like invited to the celebration
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  for Pro Bowl, it feels odd because like All-Pro
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  is the big one. Yeah, like All-Pro is the actual— do you think they
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  just kind of merge them a little bit? I don't think you can't. I don't
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  think you can. Interesting. Because they're two different— like, again, that's like all still in
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  the CBA too. I guess I'll have to read the, the wording of it.
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  But like, Pro Bowl having 88 people— I mean, there's way fewer
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  All-Pro players. And but it is odd because the bigger nod is getting an All-Pro.
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  So are you gonna have— what is the celebration? I don't even think there is
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  a celebration for All-Pro. I mean, no, there really isn't. It's more of an announcement.
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  There's the awards, there's the NFL Awards. Maybe— I don't know, we have
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  to— actually, I gotta— now I realize I gotta do some deep digging on this.
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  Are the Pro Bowlers gonna get a bigger party? Like, that's not cool. So I
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  think you're a Pro Bowler, you're also an All-Pro. So like you still get to
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  like— no All-Pro isn't in the Pro Bowl. So all the All-Pros
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  get to go to the Pro Bowl party. Yeah. Like I've only been to a
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  couple. A little gold star. But I've only been to a couple like award ceremonies.
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  Yeah, but it's always been on the baseball side. So I actually was the
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  emcee— not the emcee. I'm sorry, I was not the master of ceremonies. I was
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  the voice of God at the Golden Glove Awards
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  at the Plaza Hotel a couple of years ago. Golden Globes? No. By the
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  way, when I was offered the job, that's what I thought I was being offered.
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  Guy better. You're like, no way. I'm like, let's go. I'd be— I'd do great
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  at it. But I crushed it because, you know, Daddy's got some amazing pipes.
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  Uh, I decided to go with like a monotone thing. I was like,
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  he, he made 45 plays this year. And I— dude,
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  I sounded so good. It's fucking sexy. Yeah, you and your dad have truly beautiful
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  voices. Yeah, yeah, he— the, the 2 things that— well, I should say the
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  3 things Jay Decker left me, uh, uh, male pattern
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  baldness, this incredible fucking voice, and, uh,
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  of course hereditary alcoholism. Of course. Yeah. Thanks, Jay.
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  I got one of those as well. Appreciate you, Jay. But yeah,
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  no, I, I don't know what they're going to do with that. But all of
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  this, all in all, I don't— this might be the first where we've kicked off
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  the show with a— the NFL did something and we're not mad.
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  No, it's amazing. It's actually kind of funny we're starting with positivity
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  towards the NFL because I— there is not a world where
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  I disagree with any of these decisions. Get rid of the Pro Bowl, which sucked.
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  Get the guys out of Orlando. A fucking great idea. Add another thing for the
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  media to get invited to in Los Angeles or at the Super Bowl. Absolutely.
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  We can all get dressed up and feel important. Absolutely. I'll be there. Listen,
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  yeah, absolutely. You'll be there. There's— we're gonna be each other's date. We're gonna fucking
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  show all that dressed to the fucking nines. Yeah, like, you guys think— you guys
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  think we're just chill? We just look like this, like just t-shirts all the time?
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  No, dude, we are going to be black tie, bro. I'm gonna look so fucking—
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  I'm not even gonna wear these. These are fucking phenomenal glasses. I'm gonna wear my
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  buffalo horn ones. Oh yeah. Daddy's going all in. Yeah, I might wear a
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  fucking 3-piece suit. Yep. Oh, that'd be awesome. 3-piece suit. I've never seen you in
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  a suit. Oh, not going to
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  lie. Listen, I don't think I'm a handsome guy until the 3-piece
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  suit comes on. Okay, so that's when you get— that's when the 3-piece suit comes
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  on. Confidence kicks in. You have to understand, because what I do with the 3-piece
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  suit, this is, this is a little, little, little, little cheat code that I got
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  because I got, you know, the sleeves are a fucking little bit of a cheat
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  code. Yeah, it's a little, it's a little way of kind of kind of adding
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  a little extra attractiveness that wasn't there before. Okay,
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  so what I do is I— when I— the jacket comes up, I start to
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  roll up the sleeves a little bit, just a little bit, not all the way.
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  No, no, at the very most I might get it almost to the
• 17:26
  fore— at the edge of the forearm, because all you need is a peek.
• 17:28
  All you need is a peek. The peek of the full sleeve tattoos under the
• 17:32
  suit is good. That's good shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:35
  I'll be wearing a pocket watch on that fucking thing too. You're like, this guy
• 17:40
  is a fucking zoot suit riot. I like it. I like that.
• 17:43
  And I like that you know what you're doing. I like— because the intention,
• 17:46
  knowing what you're doing, is half the battle. Having the confidence. Premeditated. Everything was
• 17:50
  planned out. Um, you know who doesn't know what they're doing, Cody?
• 17:55
  It's funny because it's so true.
• 17:58
  Fucking my Raiders. Well, here's the deal.
• 18:01
  Is it that they don't know what— like, I don't know why they haven't made
• 18:04
  the announcement. I think this is so fucking obvious and clear-cut
• 18:10
  It's not even funny. Um, Kirk Cousins is the starter of this team this year.
• 18:12
  Yeah, he's the starter of this team for multiple reasons. One,
• 18:15
  they're paying him. 2, Fernando's not ready yet, and that— there's
• 18:19
  no shame in that. Fernando needs some time in seasoning. By the way, name a
• 18:23
  rookie quarterback that was ready to start week 1 in their rookie year. Almost never.
• 18:26
  Nobody. Nobody ever. Nobody. Um, and I don't want to see him ready because also
• 18:29
  keep in mind, this team is not going to necessarily compete this year. They're going
• 18:33
  to be better. But I do not— that's— yeah, I hate it. Like, let's be
• 18:36
  real clear, I don't need to throw him out there. Kirk Cousins will be a
• 18:39
  perfectly good crash test dummy. He's got a better offensive line than Geno Smith had.
• 18:43
  He has a capable offensive coordinator. Clint Kubiak knows what he's doing.
• 18:47
  I also like the pieces that are around him. So I think the Raiders might
• 18:50
  even be better than we're even expecting, because if there's one thing I know about
• 18:53
  Kirk Cousins and his actual quarterback play, Kirk Cousins is one of the most
• 18:57
  tight end-friendly quarterbacks in the NFL. Oh,
• 19:01
  and the Raiders happen to have the best fucking tight end in the game in
• 19:03
  Brock Bowers, so his numbers are gonna go through the roof. I did pick him
• 19:06
  third— second in my fantasy draft. I haven't fantasy drafted yet, but I would love
• 19:10
  to get Brock. I picked him. I got him during his rookie year and I
• 19:12
  thought I was a genius. What a fucking pick. I got him now, and the
• 19:16
  reason why I picked him, believe it or not, was because of Kirk Cousins.
• 19:19
  I'm like, he's gonna fuck— Cousins also is a high completion percentage dude, big time,
• 19:22
  you know? And he's got a much better— like, he's got the offensive coach now,
• 19:26
  you know? He'll do good with No. And here's the other thing. He'll melt down
• 19:28
  when you need him the most. Like, God forbid you guys are like in any
• 19:31
  level of playoff contention. We're not going to be. But like, yeah, that's where Kirk
• 19:35
  is great when you have no expectations. Exactly. Because he, he will be the best
• 19:38
  quarterback you've had in a minute. No question about it. And I'm— what I'm really
• 19:41
  excited about, and I want your take on this because I kind of surmised this
• 19:44
  the other day, and I don't know if a lot of people are kind of
• 19:46
  breaking down this kind of trajectory because I keep looking at Sam Darnold
• 19:50
  and everything. And really what I'm looking at is the Minnesota Vikings. Where was Kirk
• 19:53
  Cousins probably the most successful? Probably the Minnesota Vikings. I mean, he's been successful other
• 19:57
  places, but at the Minnesota Vikings— great in Minnesota. Yeah, under, under O'Connell.
• 20:01
  Yeah, under O'Connell's system, he was phenomenal under that. And then of course
• 20:05
  you see Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones, and it's become this island of misfit toys
• 20:09
  of quarterbacks that they go there and like reinvent their career and go elsewhere.
• 20:12
  And Sam Darnold went from that O'Connell system over to Clint Kubiak's
• 20:16
  system and fucking continued the exact same system that he was doing before.
• 20:20
  Now you got Kirk Cousins, who had his best career years under that
• 20:24
  O'Connell system, and now he's going to be in a Clint Kubiak system. I think
• 20:28
  this is a borderline match made in heaven. Now, will Kirk Cousins' age
• 20:32
  really show? I have a feeling it will, at least at some point. He's aged.
• 20:35
  It's dropped off from his peak, um, and he's always had
• 20:40
  a lack of clutch genes. 100%. You're talking about a veteran quarterback
• 20:43
  to bring along your rookie. It's exactly what Alex Smith Yes,
• 20:46
  this is, you know, like, that's what you fucking want. I have always said
• 20:51
  so, you know. I don't buy— I don't understand what Kubiak's doing here, why he's
• 20:55
  not naming the starter. I feel like, tell your rookie— like,
• 20:58
  we had— I, I don't know why we don't act like we didn't have 20
• 21:02
  years of Bill Belichick feeding Tom Brady his fucking ass every year,
• 21:05
  making sure his, his ego was in check. Fernando Mendoza will be okay,
• 21:09
  and if he's not okay, then you— then now you know what you have to
• 21:13
  build up and The reality is, tell the kid he's not starting to start
• 21:17
  the season. By the end of the season, he will very likely be starting.
• 21:18
  Most likely start him by, you know, like a lot of these guys end up
• 21:21
  starting by week 9, week 10, whatever it might be.
• 21:24
  Fine. But like kicking off the season is so deeply unnecessary.
• 21:27
  We have so much evidence that not having to start right away
• 21:31
  helps a lot. And if you can actually sit them the entire season around
• 21:34
  a— you don't always have the advantage of having a veteran
• 21:38
  quarterback worth a lick to sit behind.
• 21:42
  You got Kirk Cousins. Like, I don't even like Kirk Cousins.
• 21:46
  And I would— that's a massive advantage. Like I said,
• 21:49
  Patrick Mahomes sitting behind Alex Smith, he has talked repeatedly about
• 21:53
  how big of a deal that was for his development.
• 21:56
  It's— it was a massive deal. Tom Brady had to sit and
• 22:00
  watch and learn behind Drew Bledsoe. Yeah, those are the 2 best
• 22:04
  quarterbacks of the last fucking 25 years. If you have the opportunity
• 22:08
  to do that, which not every team has, You do it every
• 22:12
  time. No question. I am praying that Tom
• 22:16
  Brady himself, who, by the way, is a part owner
• 22:20
  of the Raiders, has in some way, shape, or form an ability to tell Kubiak,
• 22:24
  like, listen, bro, like, there's no reason for Mendoza to be starting. There's just not
• 22:28
  none. You know, like, there's just none. So, no, I'm agreeing with you wholeheartedly
• 22:32
  on that. And listen, I, I am excited, believe it or not,
• 22:35
  as a Raider fan, because I'm not— my expectations— there's some good pieces
• 22:39
  on there. Yeah. My expectations are very reasonable. I— they're,
• 22:42
  they're currently set up at 5.5 wins over-under right now. If we get 6
• 22:46
  wins this year, I'm calling that a true unadulterated victory, especially considering
• 22:50
  the fact that they're in the AFC West, which we know is a fucking juggernaut.
• 22:52
  That's why it's so low. It would be higher based on like
• 22:56
  where they're at, the pieces that they have. It would be higher if they weren't,
• 22:59
  but even going up against 3 playoffs. But even their fucking— their, their non,
• 23:03
  uh, in-division-like schedule, they have the hardest schedule in the NFL
• 23:06
  this year. Like, it's gonna be fucking brutal. Why? Who is—
• 23:10
  who is— oh God, you want me to take you through the Raiders schedule?
• 23:12
  I did the other day. I know the Patriots is rough. They have the NFC
• 23:16
  North, and I was looking at it and I was like, oh boy, yeah,
• 23:18
  it's gonna be— it's getting the NFC North, like, whoever gets
• 23:22
  them every year, I always feel bad. I mean, I feel bad for the NFC
• 23:24
  North itself. Yeah, here, let me take you through this year. Now they're opening up
• 23:27
  with what might be their easiest game of the year, which is the Miami Dolphins.
• 23:31
  After the Dolphins, Chargers. That— listen, I hate
• 23:35
  the Chargers. I make fun of the Chargers. They are fucking good. They're good,
• 23:38
  but they're also beatable. They are when you're an in-division rival,
• 23:41
  right? So like, that's one of those— you could split with the
• 23:44
  Chargers. You're right, we could, we could split with the Chargers, but I'm not expecting
• 23:49
  that to take place. Uh, then New Orleans Saints, a winnable
• 23:52
  game, a very winnable game in New Orleans. Uh, Kansas City,
• 23:56
  uh-oh. Uh, New England, uh-oh. Uh, Buffalo, Uh-oh.
• 23:59
  Um, Rams, uh-oh. Jets, winnable game,
• 24:03
  winnable game. Um, Niners, uh-oh.
• 24:07
  Uh, Seahawks, uh-oh. Broncos, uh-oh. Browns,
• 24:10
  winnable game. Chargers, uh-oh.
• 24:13
  Broncos, uh-oh. Titans, winnable game, gonna be a
• 24:17
  good game though. Yeah. Uh, Cardinals, winnable game.
• 24:21
  I hope not. I'm hoping the Cardinals are good this year. Kansas City Chiefs,
• 24:24
  uh-oh. Yeah, no, I, I feel you. Um, it's not great. Like,
• 24:28
  yeah, obviously you're playing— so you're playing the AFC, you're playing the AFC East,
• 24:32
  and, and that's— it's going to
• 24:36
  be a tough year. And listen, I, I am not upset about it. I understand
• 24:40
  it. I just want to see— I want to see competitive football, and, and that's
• 24:43
  what I want out of my Raiders. And listen, the best chance for them to
• 24:45
  really get to where they need to get to is to start, uh, Kirk Cousins.
• 24:48
  I think everybody is aware of this, and I don't know why they're even like
• 24:51
  playing games because, because nobody has any patience anymore.
• 24:55
  There's no, like, nobody has any patience or understanding on how to build. The fans
• 24:59
  want to see Fernando, they want to have the superstar, they want to whatever.
• 25:02
  And the reality is the best thing that could possibly happen for him is to
• 25:05
  have to sit at least 10 games this season. But I'm
• 25:09
  rooting for them. There's no reason, there's no reason to root
• 25:13
  against them. You know, I just constantly ask myself why the Raiders are like this,
• 25:16
  but then I say, why are you asking that question? Yeah, that's ridiculous.
• 25:19
  This is actually the best the Raiders have been when it comes to their— well,
• 25:22
  I was more asking like this bullshit with the— with Kubiak being like, I don't
• 25:25
  know, like there's nothing more to learn here. Just fucking make the call so that
• 25:29
  your guys can get ready for the season. Jesus Christ. Yeah, but let's go ahead
• 25:32
  and get over to number 3, over to my world of baseball. Yeah,
• 25:35
  because a wonderful announcement has been made,
• 25:39
  Tanya. Tampa officials have approved a $2.3
• 25:43
  billion deal for a new Rays stadium.
• 25:47
  City officials on Thursday approved a $2.3 billion deal for a ballpark
• 25:51
  funded by public and private money. The 4-3 vote by the Tampa City Council came
• 25:54
  3 months after a tentative agreement was reached with the state for a stadium,
• 25:58
  which will include $1 billion in tax money.
• 26:02
  The Tampa Bay Rays are owned by an investment group led by principal
• 26:06
  owner and chairman Patrick Zalupski,
• 26:10
  which purchased the franchise for $1.7 billion in September
• 26:13
  of 2025. So I would like to point out That the
• 26:21
  taxpayers are paying $1 billion for
• 26:24
  the ballpark that the billionaires— for a
• 26:28
  team that where the billionaires just purchased the team for $1.7 billion, which was
• 26:31
  a steal. And they're, they're now building a ballpark worth
• 26:37
  $600 million more than what they bought the
• 26:40
  team for. In what city?
• 26:43
  Tampa. Mm-mm, try again. No, St.
• 26:47
  Petersburg. Yeah, St. Petersburg, which is not Tampa Bay. Yeah, I just want to point
• 26:51
  out St. Petersburg and Tampa Bay are 2 different cities across water. How far is
• 26:54
  it from the— yeah, but how far is it? It's across a bridge about 20
• 26:56
  miles. It's a long drive. Is it 20 miles? It's a long drive. It's a
• 27:00
  long drive. It's 20 miles from where the current one is. Oh no, no,
• 27:03
  no, where the stadium is is going to be in the parking lot where the
• 27:05
  current stadium is, right? But it's in St. Pete. Yeah, but that's where it's been.
• 27:08
  I know, but that's a problem. Do you know who is one of the lowest
• 27:11
  attendants in Major League Baseball year in, year out? It's the Tampa Bay Rays.
• 27:13
  And that's not why it's low. It's also a shitty ballpark. That's also because most
• 27:17
  of the people down there are Red Sox fans. It's also because all the people
• 27:21
  are in Tampa. No, you think that, but— no, no, I know that because
• 27:25
  I lived there and my ex-wife's family's from there. But did you also live in
• 27:28
  all the other Florida cities that are just like this? Miami's the same way.
• 27:32
  You're not wrong about that either, but St. Pete's like a fucking retirement community.
• 27:36
  I understand, but like this issue with nobody in Florida
• 27:39
  actually being Florida. Oh no, we should get rid of Florida baseball together.
• 27:43
  Same shit happens in Phoenix. They get overrun, but because like it's a
• 27:46
  retirement state. Yeah, so everybody's from New York and
• 27:50
  Massachusetts and Pennsylvania. People in Tampa, I understand that, but they're
• 27:54
  all like— they get— oh, the whole state itself in those southerns,
• 27:58
  they're all overrun by transplants, just like Phoenix, just like out here. We talk about
• 28:02
  it all the time, right, in Los Angeles, how You can go to games that
• 28:06
  are like entirely overrun by San Francisco 49ers fans and
• 28:10
  Pittsburgh fans because of how many transplants are here. And so
• 28:13
  I do think that that affects the Rays a lot and the retirement.
• 28:17
  Like, there shouldn't be a team in Tampa. There should not be a team in
• 28:19
  Tampa. I wish there was another way to say this. I'm sorry, Tampa Bay.
• 28:22
  It's not a knock on you. It's just you are not a market that can
• 28:25
  sustain a Major League Baseball team. And neither is Miami, for that fucking matter.
• 28:29
  It's been proven year in, year out. Like, there have been times
• 28:32
  where Miami's won 2 fucking World Series, by the way. Hey, have you
• 28:36
  ever been to a Heat game like that wasn't during the like
• 28:40
  Big 3, like Heatles era? Oh yeah, they're always there. There's no— there's
• 28:44
  no— again, no shade to Miami,
• 28:47
  which is fucking awesome. I love hanging out in Miami. It's amazing.
• 28:51
  Not a sports city. No, they don't give a fuck. And the Heat are
• 28:54
  good. Even when the Heat were good with Jimmy Butler, even when the Heat were
• 28:57
  good with Dwyane Wade and Shaq in 2000, They don't fucking care. They don't give
• 29:01
  a shit. Florida is not a viable market. Meanwhile, by the way, the Lightning have
• 29:05
  been one of the best teams in the NHL for like 2 decades. To be
• 29:08
  honest, I honestly don't know. I will say the Lightning fandom is much better than
• 29:12
  the baseball. But I will also say their stadium is in Tampa. Okay,
• 29:17
  solid counterpoint. It is in Tampa. Solid counterpoint.
• 29:21
  If I live in Tampa, you know how hard— let me give you an example.
• 29:24
  We're in LA, we know the opportunity to build. They've tried, they've tried
• 29:28
  over and over and over again, and the team has a lease. How come the
• 29:31
  Lightning can play there? It's because the team of the Rays have had a fucking
• 29:35
  lease with the city of St. Pete that is like, I don't know,
• 29:38
  indefinite, it practically seems. So they can't even leave St.
• 29:41
  Pete if they wanted to. A billion dollars. It's fucking insane. I don't get it.
• 29:45
  Like, they've been talking about it forever, and like, for instance,
• 29:48
  Tampa Bay does have a baseball stadium. It just belongs to the Yankees.
• 29:52
  The Yankees draw more in spring training than the Tampa Bay Rays
• 29:55
  do in Tampa Bay. Because at the end of the day, and this is so
• 29:59
  fucking weird, let me give you like a geography aspect of this. I mean,
• 30:03
  let's just look at this practically. We're both in LA. We understand the LA geography.
• 30:07
  The idea of how that— this is the equivalent. How often do you get
• 30:11
  to Angel games? Yeah, it's like going. It's like
• 30:16
  going to the Angels. I've lived here for how long? I've been to one.
• 30:17
  It's like us going to the Angels. It's 37 miles away,
• 30:20
  but Los Angeles speak is not 37 miles away. 37 miles
• 30:24
  and— well, 37 miles, I don't— I mean,
• 30:27
  that's about as far away, like, that's further than like Foxborough Stadium was
• 30:31
  from where I grew up in southern Massachusetts. It's far. It's like a far way.
• 30:34
  So, and you gotta understand, in Tampa Bay you have to cross a bridge,
• 30:36
  and if there's traffic on that bridge, guess what? It's a long, long, like,
• 30:39
  Keys type of bridge that you're going over along those. Yeah. So like,
• 30:43
  we're talking From getting from Tampa Bay. And as
• 30:46
  someone that had to spend a lot of time in Tampa Bay because my former
• 30:49
  in-laws lived there and I went to a couple of Rays games from their place.
• 30:51
  Did you ever do spring training down there? No. Luckily, I only had Arizona spring
• 30:55
  training. Thank God. Thank fucking God. And by the
• 30:58
  way, I feel about that and I hate Arizona. I prefer Florida somehow.
• 31:02
  Oh, no, no, no. There's a practical matter there.
• 31:05
  The Arizona spring training, everything is in Phoenix, period.
• 31:09
  In Florida spring training, everywhere, everything's in Florida. Yeah, a bit different.
• 31:13
  Like, I— no matter what, if I had a spring training day, I was at
• 31:17
  home at the very latest at 5 p.m., at the very latest every day.
• 31:21
  And usually I was home before that. If you're in Florida, you might not get
• 31:25
  home till tomorrow. Yeah, like that's the difference. We used to send our camera guys,
• 31:28
  our dudes and stuff there. Those were my guys that we'd send down there from
• 31:31
  Boston. And man, like setting them down there for their— it
• 31:35
  was a disaster. They were staying at the— they were staying at a place that
• 31:38
  you'd never heard of before because what is that, you know, where the Red Sox
• 31:41
  play is in? Yeah. What is it? Fort Myers. Fort Myers. Yeah. And it was
• 31:44
  always just a disaster. So that's, that's valid. So that was my reason
• 31:48
  for that. But no, it's just, it's just beyond impractical. It just is.
• 31:52
  And I don't think it was a good idea. And I think Major
• 31:55
  League Baseball is misstepping by even, even allowing this to take place.
• 31:59
  If they were going to build a stadium, it needs to be an actual Tampa.
• 32:01
  Well, thank you. Thank you for pointing that out, because, you know, my big thing
• 32:04
  about it is I'm really genuinely alarmed by the fact
• 32:08
  that this was a team purchased for $1.7 billion, uh, that just got
• 32:12
  a $2.3 billion park. Like, everything is off,
• 32:15
  everything's made up, the points don't matter. Also, there's also a practical
• 32:19
  matter that's actually bugging me a little bit. Yeah, uh, take a look at the
• 32:23
  renderings of the stadium. Uh, it's a little funny because it's like got this whole
• 32:26
  glass— are we gonna end up with a Bills Stadium situation?
• 32:30
  It's gonna be like the first baseball stadium with a full like glass ceiling type
• 32:34
  of thing. Okay, glass dome. So they just had an absolute disaster
• 32:38
  with their roof and they were like, you know what we're gonna do? Glass dome
• 32:41
  in hurricane season. In hurricane— like, what?
• 32:46
  Good luck, everybody. What the fuck is wrong? I got nothing, dude. It's such a
• 32:49
  fucking weird idea. Their roof was torn off. All I could
• 32:52
  do is like, oh my God, the glare at this place is gonna be brutal.
• 32:55
  Also, I don't know, I don't care what that thing is
• 32:59
  made of. It could be made out of shit that fucking Superman brought
• 33:03
  here from Krypton or whatever, but like, it's hurricanes down there,
• 33:07
  bro. Being someone that just was in a hurricane,
• 33:10
  those suck. I'm not gonna lie, I would— after all that shit,
• 33:14
  I wouldn't put a roof on it. Like, oh my God, dude, it rains
• 33:18
  every 5 minutes in fucking Tampa. Playing rain— have you not played sports in rain?
• 33:21
  Baseball in rain's a bitch. All sports in the rain are a bitch.
• 33:24
  Yeah, but throwing a baseball, that's a deadly weapon on a pitcher's hand now.
• 33:27
  Oh, not the deadly weapon. Uh, excuse me, you ever been hit in the head?
• 33:29
  It fucking hurts. No, but I did just see a highlight of one of Greg
• 33:32
  Maddux's Like back in the day, his— that pitch that would go like out and
• 33:36
  then slide back in. Oh yeah, yeah, crazy movement. But here's the difference, that was
• 33:39
  thrown at 85. Like, no, I don't know what this thing was, but it looked
• 33:43
  so much harder to hit than any fastball I've ever seen. Oh yeah, his shit
• 33:46
  was— it was nuts. Oh yeah, no, no, I'm just saying, I've never seen a
• 33:49
  Greg Maddux pitch slowed down like that. And I was like, oh, I mean,
• 33:52
  obviously he was like, you know, I'm, I'm not like the most baseball-heavy
• 33:56
  person, but I knew he— his— that was his reputation. He was— he— but I
• 33:59
  was like, what the fuck was that pinpoint accuracy? He knew how to manipulate a
• 34:03
  baseball better than just about anybody, and he topped out at 86 miles per hour.
• 34:05
  That was the difference. And by the way, if Greg Maddux was going up and
• 34:09
  coming up these days, we would never see Greg Maddux. You wouldn't— Greg Maddux would
• 34:12
  never be a big league. That's what everybody says. But my counterpoint, which might be
• 34:16
  like a little bit neurodivergent, is always like, but if he was coming up
• 34:19
  today, he would be in it because he would still be Greg Maddux and he
• 34:22
  would just adjust to today's standards. Here's where I would disagree with you on this.
• 34:26
  It's simply because he— and it's not because he wouldn't be dominant. I honestly
• 34:29
  think if you take Greg Maddux in his prime, put him in the major leagues
• 34:32
  right now, He would be just as dominant as he ever was because he was
• 34:35
  just a maestro. You're talking about scouting. He would never be signed.
• 34:38
  There's no universe that he would ever get signed. What I'm saying is, okay,
• 34:41
  I guess what I'm saying is, but in this world, wouldn't he have adapted
• 34:46
  his skill set to something that would be signed? If the only thing he can
• 34:49
  adapt is adding 10 miles plus to his fastball,
• 34:52
  fine. Why? How do you think he couldn't? Because in adding 10 miles plus to
• 34:56
  his fastball, you're going to be losing a lot of that movement. The Greg Maddux,
• 34:59
  literally everything that he did he wouldn't be able to
• 35:02
  physically do. Interesting. I'm going to think more about this. Yeah. Okay. I appreciate that.
• 35:06
  That's all. Greg Maddux was an artist. I'm going to consider this
• 35:10
  and I'm going to consider maybe the potential that he could have thrown that
• 35:14
  same pitch 10 miles per hour faster. If he could.
• 35:18
  Why? They're already doing shit that they've never— we never thought they
• 35:22
  could do. No, no, I agree. I'm just saying, being that pinpoint at that speed.
• 35:25
  Think about it, though. I mean, if That's what everybody said about Greg Maddux at
• 35:29
  the time was like, this is not human. Why? But also there's also the aspect
• 35:33
  now that we have challenges of pitchers. Greg Maddux also got calls that he wouldn't
• 35:36
  be getting these days. Well, that you could say that about literally every fucking great
• 35:40
  pitcher. And that's what I'm going to say about every fucking great pitcher. You better
• 35:43
  not say it about Pedro Martinez. I can tell you that much right now.
• 35:45
  Shut the fuck up. You shut your fucking mouth. Yeah, well, obviously,
• 35:50
  before we go to Media Corner, This is
• 35:53
  actually really bad. And I had to put this in here because,
• 35:58
  uh, this is about the MLB players who revealed in an
• 36:01
  Athletic, um, poll that they
• 36:05
  get threats, DMs, and encounters regarding them, and then sort
• 36:09
  of talked about the modern toll of legal gambling. And Cody, the first thing
• 36:12
  I thought after reading this headline was something that you have said
• 36:15
  repeatedly on this show, something that like I never disagreed
• 36:19
  with I never disagreed with it. I understood your point, but that
• 36:24
  like I couldn't like really feel in my body. You know when you agree with
• 36:26
  someone but you're like, I just can't really like fully feel it? No, you know
• 36:29
  I'm right, but you're just like— but you're not— but I'm not emotional about it.
• 36:32
  It hasn't hit you yet because I don't think it's— I don't think there has
• 36:35
  been a moment where— I guess, I guess
• 36:39
  the way I put it is there hasn't been that crossover example that made
• 36:42
  you— that made it personal to you, right? Yeah. Or that, that like just really
• 36:46
  made it feel like fully real. And you
• 36:49
  have said repeatedly, like, somebody— we are getting to the point with
• 36:53
  gambling in sports where somebody is going to get hurt or
• 36:57
  killed. Yes. And that is intellectually— I know you're right.
• 37:00
  Yeah. That's why I've never argued it. But this article
• 37:05
  essentially speaks to that. And hearing from the players and exactly what's going
• 37:08
  on is proof positive
• 37:13
  that what you've been saying repeatedly on this show is true.
• 37:18
  The level that the— I want to make sure that I shout out the person
• 37:21
  who posted this article because I don't like— so this is from Zach Meisel.
• 37:27
  This spring, we asked 100 major leaguers across 23 teams
• 37:31
  for their response to a simple but very modern question. The players spoke on
• 37:34
  the condition of anonymity to discuss various topics.
• 37:38
  Has a fan ever confronted you or contacted you about a sports
• 37:42
  betting loss? 81 of the players said
• 37:45
  yes. 19 said no. In one of the responses,
• 37:49
  a National League pitcher said, is anyone going to answer no to this? Even if
• 37:54
  you're not on social media, people find you. It's common now for broadcasters
• 37:58
  to weave betting lines or parlay suggestions into their narration.
• 38:01
  It's possible to survey the scene at a ballpark and it's impossible
• 38:05
  to not spot an ad offering a tempting bonus if you enroll and make your
• 38:09
  first bet. The players who have no direct say in these corporate alliances are the
• 38:13
  ones who are ultimately determining each other's fate,
• 38:17
  and they are the ones receiving the backlash. Many of those who replied
• 38:20
  no said they only replied that because they removed the direct line
• 38:24
  of communication to the bettors. They avoid social media, they ignore DMs.
• 38:29
  I'm going to read you a couple of quotes from the players in this piece.
• 38:33
  You should see my Venmo requests from an NL pitcher. It literally
• 38:36
  happens every game. AL pitcher. I've had people approach me.
• 38:41
  NL pitcher. I nod my head and move on. It's always about costing them some
• 38:45
  amount of money. Expletive, expletive, expletive. NL outfielder. On social
• 38:50
  media, said AL pitcher, everybody feels like they can say whatever the fuck they want.
• 38:54
  I've been Venmo requested, said an AL pitcher. I've gotten a bunch
• 38:58
  of threats. It sucks. It's been all over the map. No one's really taking the
• 39:02
  time to message you and say, hey, great game, said an NL hitter. If they
• 39:05
  win a bet, it's not because you did it. It's because they knew.
• 39:10
  I've gotten DMs like, you owe me $50 or you can't get
• 39:14
  one more strikeout, said an NL pitcher. And some choice words. This one
• 39:18
  is insane. An AL pitcher— East pitcher—
• 39:21
  an AL East pitcher said he once received a Venmo request for $3,000
• 39:25
  after a game, accompanied by a message that said, you cost me my parlay.
• 39:29
  Let's do the right thing. The pitcher said he replied that his worst day
• 39:33
  is still better than your best day, and the bettor repeated the ritual after another
• 39:37
  outing with another $3,000 request
• 39:40
  and a message that read, you did so poorly today, you don't deserve to get
• 39:44
  paid. The pitcher said he fulfilled the request and sent back, I make
• 39:48
  way more than 3 grand in a day. An AL pitcher said he'll send
• 39:52
  50 cents or a funny barb back to them.
• 39:56
  Sometimes it crosses a line. It only gets weird when you see your home
• 39:59
  address on there, said AL pitcher. An NL outfielder
• 40:03
  said he receives threats all the time. I hope you die. I hope
• 40:07
  your family dies. You ruined my parlay. All the
• 40:11
  time. Ever since betting became legal, it's become this way. Yep.
• 40:15
  I wanted to read all of those quotes, which I know is kind of boring,
• 40:18
  but like at the end of the day, it's really important that like we not
• 40:21
  bury what the fuck these players are fucking saying? Because you've been saying
• 40:25
  that this is something that you're scared about. And this— seeing the
• 40:31
  idea that people are requesting $3,000 and threatening
• 40:35
  their families, that's incredibly
• 40:39
  alarming. Yeah, like incredibly alarming. And also,
• 40:44
  it is not hard to see how this escalates to somebody in
• 40:48
  a moment of mental illness or a mental breakdown or just deep,
• 40:52
  deep unsettled anger and dysregulation.
• 40:56
  They're not like— this is scary for these players.
• 41:00
  I don't understand. These players have families. They have wives, they have children,
• 41:04
  they have daughters, they have sons. I don't tell you
• 41:07
  other than families are vulnerable. Tanner Scott has gotten 2 losses
• 41:11
  this week over the Atlanta Braves, against the Atlanta Braves. The last time that he
• 41:15
  blew a save was like 2 months ago. And in that, he got multiple death
• 41:18
  threats to his fucking wife and kids. I don't know what to tell you other
• 41:21
  than this is a massive problem and someone's gonna fuck— get fucking killed. It's going
• 41:25
  to happen. That's the worst part. I hate that I'm saying this, but it's
• 41:28
  going to happen. How do I know it's gonna happen? Because history always repeats itself.
• 41:31
  100 years ago, we dealt with this. You know why there's a commissioner in
• 41:35
  all leagues? Why there's a commissioner in Major League Baseball? It happened in 1919 when
• 41:39
  the Black Sox Scandal happened. The Black Sox Scandal, by the way, everyone really
• 41:43
  tries to look at history a very certain way. It's a little ugly
• 41:47
  to me. If you really do some research on what happened in 1919 with the
• 41:50
  Black Sox scandal, yes, some players absolutely sold out and took the money.
• 41:54
  But other players that didn't sell out were basically threatened
• 41:58
  that the mob was going to murder their family if they didn't fucking sell out.
• 42:01
  Some players were also, by the way, selling out specifically
• 42:05
  because the owner, Mr. Comiskey, wasn't paying the White Sox their
• 42:09
  fair wage. So the White Sox said, fuck you, we're going to go get our
• 42:13
  money that we earned because you're making all this money and not paying us.
• 42:16
  So let's be real clear, there's a lot of extra nuance to the 1919
• 42:20
  Black Sox Scandal that no one ever really wants to do a deep dive
• 42:24
  in. It just really helps the major league owners and everything
• 42:27
  when they say, well, those greedy players. And that's why we get the greedy
• 42:30
  player fucking narrative for the last 100 years in every single
• 42:35
  CBA. They just look back, well, remember when the players were greedy in 1919?
• 42:39
  Even though there's a shit ton of nuance behind that. Players were threatened,
• 42:42
  their families were threatened to actually sell out that World Series. Not all
• 42:46
  of them, some of them. That being said, that was 100 years ago.
• 42:50
  We're dealing with it again now, and none of you motherfuckers
• 42:54
  want to do shit about it. And I hate that we're always fucking reactive in
• 42:58
  nature because it's going to lead to someone actually getting hurt. It's going to lead
• 43:01
  to an actual sick-in-the-head motherfucker showing up at a
• 43:05
  guy's car after a game with a fucking knife or something And that's
• 43:09
  going to be when all of you start taking this shit seriously. Gambling is
• 43:12
  a fucking disease. It is like, it's okay to do
• 43:16
  it and have fun with it. I've had fun with it. We can have fun
• 43:19
  with it. But the problem is Pandora's box has been open and there's been no
• 43:22
  regulation in Major League Baseball. And I know I'm singling out Major League Baseball kind
• 43:27
  of unfairly so because every other sport is just as corrupt. They just have the
• 43:29
  most famous, like they just have the most famous gambling story of all time.
• 43:33
  But let's be real clear. They are all culpable at this point.
• 43:36
  ESPN, you, you can't turn it on without somebody saying, and of course, go on
• 43:40
  ESPN Bet right now and check out our +1,500 parlay.
• 43:44
  Fuck all of you. You're gonna get somebody hurt. And I'm waiting for
• 43:48
  somebody, anybody with a shred, a fucking
• 43:52
  shred of humility, a shred of decency that will
• 43:56
  finally just say, hey, maybe we should regulate this
• 44:00
  a little, a little, maybe, maybe fucking
• 44:04
  get to it before somebody gets killed because I don't want to see it happen.
• 44:07
  And when it happens, I don't want to say I told you so because
• 44:11
  this is not a situation that I should say I told you
• 44:15
  so. Fucking get a hold of it, Major League Baseball. You're the
• 44:18
  example when it comes to the world of sports gambling, and you're in bed
• 44:22
  with all these sports gamblers to the point where I have such a problem because
• 44:26
  I've been defending Major League Baseball about their decision to never let Pete
• 44:30
  Rose into the Hall of Fame, which is something I vehemently, vehemently agree
• 44:34
  with. But now, like, it's impossible to defend because
• 44:38
  of your own actions and where you're actually in bed with. No, we cannot allow
• 44:42
  Pete Rose into the Hall of Fame. But if you guys go ahead and put
• 44:45
  down $1,500 on our BetMGM parlay, then don't worry about
• 44:49
  it. Like, what the fuck is this? Like, truly, how do you have the
• 44:53
  balls to speak out of both sides of your mouth? I just want to protect
• 44:56
  fucking players and their families at this point. You guys can make your bets,
• 45:00
  you can make your money, but fucking handle it. And you haven't. And it
• 45:04
  almost seems like you're purposely doing it at this point, of which
• 45:08
  I feel like you're just as culpable as the person that's committing the
• 45:12
  crime when it eventually happens, as the person committing the crime.
• 45:16
  It's, you know, the idea of the mob or
• 45:19
  some sort of organized group taking power,
• 45:24
  threatening the safety lives of athletes seems like it's a made-up
• 45:29
  thing. Seems like it's like straight out of a movie.
• 45:32
  It's not. And maybe,
• 45:35
  maybe in 1919 it was
• 45:39
  the Italian Mafia, right? Now it's the mob.
• 45:43
  Now the mobs now also are corporate.
• 45:48
  Yeah. If you don't think that billionaires
• 45:52
  would bribe you, threaten you,
• 45:56
  if you don't think that they're in bed with governmental agencies,
• 46:00
  there's a lot of danger here. Yeah. And the reality is that
• 46:04
  we are also in a very precarious spot economically.
• 46:09
  1919 was right before the, you know,
• 46:13
  the entire— the Great Depression. Like, we were leading into
• 46:17
  the worst economic times in the 20th century.
• 46:21
  This is how this shit goes. And keep in mind right now, how, how exactly
• 46:24
  is everybody feeling in the pocketbook right now in the United States?
• 46:28
  Not great. We got gas prices up, we're fighting trade wars all over
• 46:32
  the goddamn place. People are really, really struggling right now. Now you take people that
• 46:35
  are now putting their money that they have and making bets trying to make it
• 46:38
  big And now they got to have a big bad to look at. And that
• 46:42
  big bad is honestly not their bosses who aren't paying them a fair paycheck or
• 46:45
  the government that's taking away their money. No, no, no. It's the players that couldn't
• 46:49
  help them make their parlay and they were going to— somebody is mentally
• 46:52
  ill. That player is on a $200 million contract and I can't
• 46:56
  afford my fucking rent this month. So it's their fault. Certainly not all
• 47:00
  the things that are causing the actual problems with our money these
• 47:03
  days. No, no, no. And I understand people feeling desperate when money
• 47:07
  gets involved. I get that. I have been broke. I have lived
• 47:10
  in my car while being a fucking professional baseball player. Creating— they're
• 47:15
  creating the situations to be desperate so that people put their money into gambling.
• 47:18
  I mean, the whole thing is a fucking disaster. So, you know, this is really,
• 47:22
  really dark. And it's very dark. I'm officially, you know,
• 47:25
  I'm officially nervous. And I also, you know,
• 47:28
  the class war that we are in right now does not help the situation.
• 47:32
  It's not going to make these players any safer. And it's certainly not going to
• 47:34
  make these better in any— put them in any financial spot to be okay.
• 47:38
  So I— it's something I've been very concerned about. It's something I'm actually quite passionate
• 47:41
  about. And by the way, I'm not the one that says get rid of sports
• 47:45
  gambling. No, I actually think sports gambling is not the devil.
• 47:48
  I do think it was also fine. We were like,
• 47:52
  where sports gambling was at our whole lives was fine.
• 47:55
  Yes. Like, we were never— I was not anti-gambling. I was
• 47:59
  not whatever. Still not. We lived— it was like, it was legal in Nevada,
• 48:02
  and there were certain states that did it, certain states that didn't. But if people
• 48:05
  wanted to bet on sports, they bet on sports. Yeah, there were entire podcasts long
• 48:09
  before the legalization and the adoption by— of the broadcast agencies of
• 48:14
  all of these betting books, right? These sportsbooks.
• 48:17
  Podcast dedicated to— we all did fantasy, we all did, you know, there was like—
• 48:21
  yeah, fucking Bill Simmons has been talking about it in his shit since the 2000s.
• 48:26
  It was fine. Yes, this is way
• 48:30
  too far. But here's the thing, this is what I'm most disappointed about, about the
• 48:34
  entire thing of sports adopting sports gambling. There was a part
• 48:37
  of me at the time, and shame on me, I apologize. I must— I was,
• 48:41
  I was young and truly thought the better of humanity.
• 48:45
  There was a part of me that thought this was a good thing because it'll
• 48:49
  be watched and regulated. This is a good thing.
• 48:52
  I'm so sorry. I'm a fucker. I know, I know. Sorry, sorry that
• 48:56
  I— sorry that I thought people in leagues would do the right thing. You believed
• 49:00
  in humanity. It's on me. Trust me, there are moments
• 49:04
  where I get back to believing in humanity and they just remind me why I
• 49:07
  shouldn't. Yeah, exactly. Before we get into the Callaway Golf
• 49:11
  of it all, I wanted to point out an interesting thing that happened in Media
• 49:14
  Corner for our first Media Corner segment. It happened
• 49:18
  during the Browns game,
• 49:21
  their preseason game against the New England Patriots. Yeah.
• 49:25
  And The first clip I saw was
• 49:29
  of Ryan Fitzpatrick. The second clip I saw was of later
• 49:33
  in the game from Al Michaels and Kirk
• 49:37
  Herbstreit. Now, I had seen
• 49:40
  this post from Ryan Fitzpatrick, or I'd seen it like somebody
• 49:44
  else had shared it. Yeah. And essentially what Ryan Fitzpatrick
• 49:49
  did on the broadcast, so he's like in the booth, he's joined them, whatever else.
• 49:52
  Was just calmly eviscerate Deshaun Watson.
• 49:56
  Just very calmly, very like to the point
• 49:59
  where I almost didn't catch it right away.
• 50:03
  And I'm gonna play you the clip. I'm gonna
• 50:06
  play you the, uh, old schooling this. Yeah, I'm gonna— because I want you to
• 50:10
  hear him talk about it, but that's the wrong one. I'm gonna— you know,
• 50:12
  I could have just put this on the actual show and Mocha could have hit
• 50:15
  it. Well, you weren't exactly crushing that aspect of today.
• 50:18
  It was, uh, we— I didn't want to ask you for too much. Um,
• 50:22
  okay, okay. No, I'm still professional. No, but I actually— I— the bigger
• 50:26
  issue is that I don't want the NFL to take this clip down. Oh,
• 50:28
  that's fair. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I want you to hear
• 50:32
  what Ryan Fitzpatrick says about Deshaun Watson and make sure you play this
• 50:36
  a little close to the mic. Of course, of course. But I have to rewind
• 50:39
  it. Okay, ready? But I also think this is set up here
• 50:44
  for Shador. I mean, if Deshaun, once he fails, Shador's gonna jump into
• 50:48
  this thing and he's going to be the guy, and there— this city is going
• 50:51
  to be behind him. Yeah, but you think it'll fail?
• 50:54
  Yeah, and it's, it's gonna happen. I mean, Shador's playing this
• 50:58
  year. I think all 3 of these guys— I think Gabriel's gonna have a chance
• 51:01
  to play as well. But you know, this is such a young roster with a
• 51:05
  lot of changing parts. You know what I love?
• 51:09
  The way I was already a Fitzpatrick fan, now I'm a huge fan.
• 51:12
  When he fails Just no faith. Correct, by the way.
• 51:16
  But the way he said it, you know, when he fails and blah, blah,
• 51:19
  blah, and then fucking loser Kirkhart, he comes in and he's like, you think he's
• 51:23
  going to fail? Yeah. By the way, without changing the tenor
• 51:27
  of his voice, without like he says, yeah, yeah, for sure, he's just going to
• 51:31
  fail. And then they're going to go to, you know, Dylan Gabriel and should— or
• 51:33
  something. That is— we— I— A-plus.
• 51:36
  I have been familiar with Ryan Fitzpatrick since he
• 51:40
  was at Harvard. Okay. I love this Patrick. I don't always
• 51:44
  love him. I love him. But what I will say is that is
• 51:48
  very intentional. Yeah. His choice to say it the way he said it,
• 51:52
  to not change his tenor, to not react to Kirk Herbstreit in
• 51:55
  any way that was defensive, but to be like, you know, it is very obvious
• 52:00
  that Deshaun Watson is going to fail. We're not going— that is like one
• 52:04
  of the more brilliant ways I've ever seen somebody eviscerate somebody on a
• 52:08
  national broadcast. Yeah. Now, that very clearly rubbed
• 52:13
  Kirk Herbstreit the wrong way. And Al Michaels was
• 52:17
  also on the broadcast, too, and he's old as hell. So no
• 52:21
  shock there that both of them had this reaction. But their reaction to
• 52:26
  this was essentially to— in the third quarter. So this
• 52:30
  happened in the second quarter, I believe. But in the third, whatever it
• 52:33
  was, later on in the game, They had a whole conversation where they
• 52:38
  said when that news broke, everybody was kind of like, wow, what's going
• 52:42
  on? Everybody was kind of surprised. I'm a guy that believes that
• 52:46
  everybody deserves second opportunities. Kirk Herbstreit
• 52:49
  on Deshaun Watson. Al Michaels seconded
• 52:53
  that notion. So not only did Ryan Fitzpatrick
• 52:57
  essentially neg Kirk Herbstreit into praising
• 53:01
  Deshaun Watson for deserving a second chance after he
• 53:04
  was Alleged— accused of assaulting 27
• 53:08
  women. But he got— then Kirk got Al Michaels to sign on.
• 53:13
  So in the same— the reason that I wanted to talk about this is because
• 53:17
  in the same broadcast, what you're seeing is that
• 53:20
  there is an entire group of broadcasters,
• 53:25
  older broadcasters, establishment broadcasters, and MAGA broadcasters who
• 53:29
  are completely ill-equipped to actually do the job
• 53:33
  completely at all anymore. Kurt Herbstreit, I mean this from the bottom of my heart,
• 53:36
  is the most unqualified man who's ever fucking lived.
• 53:40
  He's a fucking joke. And he took Hal Michaels down with him.
• 53:43
  Yeah, he's one of the more, more qualified broadcasters. He is.
• 53:46
  But, and by the way, but he's 100 years old. But to sit here— okay,
• 53:51
  Kurt Herbstreit, let me explain to you something real fucking simple. Is Deshaun
• 53:55
  Watson in prison? Did he lose money?
• 53:58
  Then he, then he got all the second chances he ever fucking need,
• 54:01
  you dumb motherfucker. I feel so bad for your poor dog
• 54:05
  that has to be lumped into fucking you, because as you know, Hitler had a
• 54:09
  dog, and now I fucking hate that dog too. I hate your dog because
• 54:14
  of you. That poor, poor thing. I think we should start a rescue service for
• 54:18
  anybody anytime Kurt Herb Street tries to fucking rescue a
• 54:21
  dog. We need to rescue that dog. I agree.
• 54:25
  Listen, I— it's a great point. Second chance.
• 54:29
  He's not in fucking— he's not in fucking prison and he's making all of his
• 54:32
  fucking money. That's his second fucking chance. He got him getting
• 54:36
  the opportunity to play fucking NFL football is not a fucking second
• 54:41
  chance, you stupid sack of shit. Go back in the tanning booth and add more
• 54:44
  filler, you fuck. The price he paid for all those accusations
• 54:48
  was an 11-game suspension and $230 million
• 54:54
  guaranteed. That is the only
• 54:58
  fucking thing that matters in this conversation.
• 55:01
  It's the only thing. 27 women were told,
• 55:04
  we don't fucking believe you. We won't even put this through a grand jury.
• 55:08
  They said, we'll suspend you 11 games for what?
• 55:12
  We don't even actually fucking know. Then gave him $230 million
• 55:17
  that he gets no matter fucking— no matter what, of which he's played,
• 55:20
  what, 16? Games in that time. 19 games. And this
• 55:25
  stupid fucking piece of shit is on television talking about
• 55:28
  how he should have a second chance right after— by the way, this is a
• 55:32
  full-on undermining of what Ryan Fitzpatrick just
• 55:37
  said. So not only is he dick-sucking a piece of shit who's paid
• 55:40
  no price for anything he's ever done and only been rewarded, so I don't
• 55:44
  know why you feel bad for him. Unfuckingbelievable. But also now you're undermining Ryan Fitzpatrick
• 55:49
  who told you point blank, as somebody who's actually played the position, been in
• 55:52
  the NFL, and actually was in the NFL at the same time as this
• 55:56
  dude, you're going to tell him he's
• 56:00
  a fucking— I cannot stand it. So fucking— and if Al Michaels
• 56:04
  was 10 years younger, I'd be harder on him, but I don't.
• 56:07
  I'm over it. I'm over it. Al Michaels been out the pasture for years and
• 56:11
  years and years, and I'm not— I'm not losing my, uh, my appreciation for
• 56:15
  the Miracle on Ice. No, he said— he, he said, do you believe in miracles?
• 56:17
  He kind of gets a pass for a long time. Bad. I didn't like that
• 56:21
  impression. You've done better. Look, I— it was out of nowhere. Leave me alone.
• 56:24
  Okay, this is actually— I'm sorry, it's not my— I'm sorry, super, super valid.
• 56:27
  Sorry, it's not— it was out of— you got to give me some time to
• 56:29
  work on it. That's actually super— okay, listen, if you— if we're doing the NFL
• 56:32
  Films guy, that's actually— okay,
• 56:35
  well, you can go bar for bar with Chris. The Autumn Wind is a
• 56:39
  Raider. He fights you and throws you down
• 56:43
  and beats the fuck out of your family. Yeah, that classic
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  NFL Films line. The Autumn Wind
• 56:51
  is a pirate. Uh, if you have not heard about the Good Good
• 56:54
  Golf and, uh, Callaway— boy,
• 56:58
  I didn't hear of it until you told me about it— ad controversy.
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  Fuck me. The very brief CliffsNotes
• 57:07
  version for everybody— go look this up— but I want to talk
• 57:12
  about a very specific angle of it. Good Good Golf, a a brand,
• 57:17
  white dudes who are making videos, made a video as
• 57:21
  an ad in an ad campaign with Callaway Golf.
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  In the— this was approved by fact-check, looked through,
• 57:29
  put out by Callaway Golf and Good Good Golf. It all went through all the
• 57:33
  proper channels, went out. It was a video that depicted a man assaulting
• 57:39
  a woman on a golf course for taking his golf club. So allow me
• 57:43
  to give you the full, like, transaction that takes place on
• 57:46
  screen. It's very short. It's very short. And by the way, I also saw the
• 57:50
  full video of this entire thing. Um, one,
• 57:55
  it just starts off as a slow video of a girl going over to a
• 57:57
  woman that is one of their golfers, apparently that's on Good Good, uh, goes and
• 58:01
  is slowly grabbing a driver out of a bag, a Callaway
• 58:05
  driver out of a bag for this Callaway Good Good collaboration for this
• 58:09
  new driver. The woman is grabbing the thing out and
• 58:12
  the guy sees it, freaks out and starts sprinting at her and shoulder blocks
• 58:17
  her to the ground. And what's weird is she legitimately like leaves out
• 58:20
  like a painful gasp and looks like in pain on the ground.
• 58:23
  Grabs the driver and said, don't you ever grab my driver.
• 58:27
  And then he walks away. He just does domestic violence. And this was apparently
• 58:33
  funny. On what fucking planet
• 58:37
  was this funny? That being said, that is the fucking full video of
• 58:41
  where this controversy had— Tanya, take it away. So everybody
• 58:45
  reacted the way, of course, you'd react when someone puts out a
• 58:48
  domestic violence, like assault on a woman video
• 58:52
  to sell a golf club. Didn't go over well. No. All of
• 58:56
  the ensuing half-ass bullshit fake apologies go
• 58:59
  back and forth. They say Good Good does a non-apology
• 59:04
  apology. Callaway does a, we don't know how this happened.
• 59:07
  We didn't actually see it, but our other team did. But I didn't personally
• 59:11
  see it as the CEO, whatever. They go back and forth. Good Good ends
• 59:15
  up then throwing more shade back at Callaway.
• 59:19
  Then they pull— Good Good pulls their like
• 59:23
  support of the PGA Tour out. They were, they were sponsoring it. They're no longer
• 59:27
  sponsoring it because the PGA doesn't want to be involved with them. The whole deal.
• 59:31
  Galloway themselves, they've taken a stock hit, the whole thing.
• 59:34
  So they— we are 9 fucking apologies
• 59:38
  and/or explanations and/or blaming each other into
• 59:41
  this after a week of this. Okay, you can go look up the
• 59:45
  timeline. You'll be bored by it. The more important thing that needs to be discussed
• 59:49
  is that when I saw this ad, as soon as it
• 59:52
  went viral, the first thing,
• 59:55
  the very first thing I posted on the internet was This
• 59:59
  was completely intentional. Oh yeah, this is—
• 1:00:03
  this did not slip under the radar. Nobody didn't know
• 1:00:07
  that this was going to— like, of course you're do— you're literally physically assaulting
• 1:00:11
  a woman in a, in a golf ad. Like, this was not a surprise.
• 1:00:16
  This was not our jeans are good where like there could even
• 1:00:19
  be an argument, which by the way was barely an argument.
• 1:00:22
  Barely. This was— you're clearly— you literally
• 1:00:27
  hit a woman and she cried out and you yelled
• 1:00:31
  at her while she was on the ground for touching your golf— for touching your
• 1:00:35
  golf club. So nothing about
• 1:00:39
  this was accidentally misconstrued. Not at all. So my first thought
• 1:00:43
  was the reason that they did it was because sometimes you get the reverberation
• 1:00:47
  of the reaction to the misogyny, which is
• 1:00:51
  doubling down on the misogyny. Yep. And so
• 1:00:54
  I'm pissed about all the libs and women who are pissed
• 1:00:59
  about this whole thing makes misogynists
• 1:01:02
  more loyal to your brand. And your brand is already a
• 1:01:06
  ton of misogynist golfers to begin with. And boom, bing, bang, boom,
• 1:01:09
  right? Yeah. There's something else at play here
• 1:01:12
  that I would like you to know about. I want to hear. Okay,
• 1:01:16
  so Callaway
• 1:01:21
  Golf is currently in the middle of a stock buyback.
• 1:01:26
  They've been— they sold off their stakes in Topgolf. Oh,
• 1:01:29
  because Topgolf, by the way, is going under. Yeah, so they sold off their stakes
• 1:01:34
  in Topgolf, and what they— the whole thing, to make everything quite simple,
• 1:01:38
  is that for the last few months they have been in the
• 1:01:41
  middle of buying back a ton of their own stock.
• 1:01:48
  And one way, while you're profiting,
• 1:01:51
  you've made some money off of selling off of your, your Topgolf, you know,
• 1:01:55
  ownership, all that stuff to make a good sort
• 1:02:00
  of deal on buying back your own stock while
• 1:02:03
  you're in the middle of that. By the way, they still have like a
• 1:02:07
  shit ton of shares to buy back. I don't know,
• 1:02:10
  is to tank your stock. Do I
• 1:02:14
  think it's an accident that they did something so
• 1:02:18
  fucking egregious, so stupid, and they got
• 1:02:21
  some dumbasses to do it for them that they could disavow?
• 1:02:26
  Do I think it's an accident that they did that, then their stock
• 1:02:31
  tanked in the middle of a stock buyback?
• 1:02:34
  I do fucking not think so. Think that, Cody? I'm just gonna pose you
• 1:02:39
  the question. Feel free to weigh in.
• 1:02:45
  If you believe in coincidences at this point in your life,
• 1:02:50
  fucking slap yourself in the fucking face. None of things
• 1:02:54
  are a coincidence. Anytime you're dealing with billions of dollars,
• 1:02:58
  nothing is a coincidence. If you think it's a coincidence,
• 1:03:02
  then congratulations, you're a dumb fuck. That is exactly what
• 1:03:06
  those billionaires want you to be. I didn't
• 1:03:10
  know about the stock buyback portion of this conversation. Yeah, they have
• 1:03:14
  approximately $120 million remaining under the current repurchase authorization.
• 1:03:19
  You know what really pisses me off about this? Any other year, the FCC would
• 1:03:21
  flag this and a lot of people would go to jail. Unfortunately, due to certain
• 1:03:25
  regimes that's currently in the White House, that won't be the case. Um, they will
• 1:03:28
  be allowed to buy back all their stock. The company was also in substantial
• 1:03:32
  debt, which is why they were selling off Topgolf. Well, it's really lovely that they're
• 1:03:35
  gonna be able to buy back their stock at a fraction of the price because
• 1:03:37
  of their own tanking of it, but they got a bunch of unwitting dipshits to
• 1:03:40
  fucking do it. By unwitting, unfunny, untalented dipshits, I might add.
• 1:03:43
  Go ahead and watch the video. Fucking not an actor in the bunch. And also,
• 1:03:46
  based on their fucking swings, not a goddamn golfer in the bunch either. The fuck
• 1:03:50
  even is this? They should have let that woman golf. She was clearly— she's clearly
• 1:03:53
  the only one of you that has Shred of fucking talent. I actually believe she
• 1:03:57
  was hurt when she hit the ground. Yeah, you guys are fucking pathetic. And by
• 1:04:00
  the way, the CEO of Good Good, I have no fucking idea who you are,
• 1:04:03
  who apparently got drunk and went on Twitter and started saying, well, I'm gonna sue.
• 1:04:05
  Yeah, well, they set us up to fail. Maybe they did, but you're a stupid
• 1:04:08
  fuck that made that video and thought it was funny. You thought that shit was
• 1:04:11
  funny. That's the beautiful thing about this, is there's no— there's no good guy.
• 1:04:15
  Yeah, everyone's a bad guy. They used your asses. I hope you all fucking eat
• 1:04:18
  each other, you stupid fucks. They used your asses because they knew you were stupid
• 1:04:22
  misogynists who aren't funny. You are a like, oh my God,
• 1:04:26
  they're— I— they are corporate villains and you're wannabe
• 1:04:30
  fucking idiots. Like, they have a champagne room
• 1:04:33
  literally of 90 people who are like, what can
• 1:04:37
  we do to fucking get our stock back? Well, I have an idea. You know
• 1:04:40
  those stupid fucks on YouTube? I'm listening.
• 1:04:44
  That's exactly how this shit happens. And I don't know what else to tell you.
• 1:04:48
  The fact that you guys made this video to begin with,
• 1:04:51
  Let's just start there. You're so fucking stupid, talentless, and fuck you.
• 1:04:55
  Uh, second, defending it. You're so fucking stupid and talentless
• 1:04:58
  and fuck you. The people online that are immediately fucking
• 1:05:02
  defending it, you are so fucking worthless and stupid
• 1:05:06
  and fuck you. I just— it once again goes in the whole Venn
• 1:05:10
  diagram of the amount of people that justify fucking domestic
• 1:05:14
  violence and hate trans people and want to, uh,
• 1:05:17
  train and want to protect women. Weirdly are all in the same—
• 1:05:20
  there is no Venn diagram. It's a fucking circle and
• 1:05:24
  you dipshits are fucking in it. That's it. I, I, I— and
• 1:05:28
  you know what, there's not a single person that looked at that video and smiled
• 1:05:32
  that just doesn't hate their wife. That's just what it is. You golf
• 1:05:36
  to get away from your wife. I'm sorry your life is miserable. You know why
• 1:05:37
  I golf? I golf because it's fun. I golf because
• 1:05:41
  I find it therapeutic. I golf because it's a good way for me to get
• 1:05:44
  on a green field for a couple hours walk a couple of miles, play a
• 1:05:48
  challenging game, and smoke a shit ton of weed. That's why I golf.
• 1:05:52
  You guys golf because you're miserable little misogynistic little bitches.
• 1:05:56
  And that's what you are. Good, good little bitches. Good,
• 1:06:00
  good little bitches. The best part about this is that, like, it's just
• 1:06:04
  another reminder that corporations don't— their politics lie with
• 1:06:08
  how they can make money. So you thought you were in bed
• 1:06:11
  with Callaway Golf. Some good old boy. We're in
• 1:06:15
  with the good old boy. We're part of the club. We're gonna be a part
• 1:06:18
  of the country club. And what happened was they saw the opportunity
• 1:06:22
  to pit a specific group of people who give a fuck
• 1:06:26
  about women and a specific group of people who are misogynists
• 1:06:31
  against each other because they don't have any values.
• 1:06:34
  They're corporations. They don't care. They don't think you're
• 1:06:38
  cute and cool because you're MAGA. And they don't give a fuck about us because
• 1:06:42
  they obviously don't like women or liberals. They don't like any
• 1:06:45
  of us. We are all the butt of the joke. Women were the butt of
• 1:06:49
  the joke. Golfers were the butt of the joke. And your pathetic fucking
• 1:06:54
  channel and brand was the butt of the joke. So all the people that you
• 1:06:58
  politically disagree with, who you thought would be triggered by your little— oh, all the
• 1:07:02
  woke libs are going to be triggered by our— no, you're just a bitch.
• 1:07:04
  No, you were just used. Yeah, you thought— you
• 1:07:08
  thought you were doing something cute for a big corporation that was going to
• 1:07:12
  back you. They used your asses, and we're all the butt
• 1:07:16
  of their joke so that they can save their fucking company and then go,
• 1:07:20
  go out and celebrate, pop the champagne, and laugh
• 1:07:24
  at you and the rest of us. You're not in the— you're a fucking joke.
• 1:07:28
  Listen, good, good. You're not in the fucking club. You're not in it. You're never
• 1:07:32
  gonna be in it. You are in this world, in this world that you thought
• 1:07:36
  you guys were fucking rubbing shoulders with, you stupid fucks. You're their
• 1:07:40
  caddy. You're their disposable fucking caddy. That's all
• 1:07:44
  you are. Go back and make your fucking cute little YouTube videos, you dumb twats.
• 1:07:48
  These people are so self-important, and it's like unbelievable. You like— imagine
• 1:07:52
  you could not— if any company ever said—
• 1:07:56
  because you know, you just know that they sort of like side somehow suggested that
• 1:08:00
  they like incepted them to make that video without putting
• 1:08:04
  it in writing, right? I'd be like, why do you think they want
• 1:08:08
  us to get fucked? Like, why do you think they want us to get in
• 1:08:10
  trouble? No, you're too dumb. You guys are so fucking dumb. But don't worry,
• 1:08:13
  you got a couple of drivers with the word good on it, so I hope
• 1:08:17
  it was all worth it. Good, good, good, good. Oh, you fucking idiots.
• 1:08:21
  We are, uh, we're gonna move on from the
• 1:08:25
  misogyny and we're gonna debut a new segment. I love that. The new segment
• 1:08:29
  is called Let Me Ask You Something. I love that. And that is me asking
• 1:08:32
  you something, Cody, because You sometimes
• 1:08:37
  can give me insight into things I don't understand. This is fun
• 1:08:41
  fact, I was a professional athlete. Not a great one, but one regardless.
• 1:08:46
  And I do have a lot of insight and stories. And I've hung out with
• 1:08:49
  a lot of professional athletes at work, and we've had— and I've worked with them
• 1:08:53
  for years, and I have all these great stories. And I like to collect these
• 1:08:55
  stories. I like to collect these insights into things. I find it super
• 1:08:59
  fascinating, and it's made me a much better sports analyst. Um, it's also
• 1:09:03
  been able to help me spot the, the bullshit artists from
• 1:09:07
  the people who really have the integrity, right? So I, I have a ton
• 1:09:12
  of experience sort of collecting the stories about professional athletes over the
• 1:09:15
  years, and I would like to add you to the tapestry. So thank you.
• 1:09:18
  I'm going to play— thank you.
• 1:09:22
  I'm gonna play you guys
• 1:09:26
  a clip. And it's going to be— well, I'm not going to play it.
• 1:09:28
  Obviously, Mocha is going to play it. But I would like to show you this
• 1:09:32
  clip from Andrew Whitworth's podcast with Ryan Fitzpatrick,
• 1:09:35
  the aforementioned— 2 for 2 today. I think it's called Fitz and Whit is the
• 1:09:39
  podcast. And he tells this story to Ryan Fitzpatrick.
• 1:09:43
  I want everybody to listen to it and then we will circle back around and
• 1:09:47
  ask you a question. So, Mocha, go ahead and play that clip.
• 1:09:51
  On to Cincinnati game. We're on to Cincinnati.
• 1:09:54
  Patriots go to Kansas City, get their faces peeled off,
• 1:09:57
  and Bill Belichick famously, the press conference, on to Cincinnati.
• 1:10:01
  That time I think we were 3-0. We had just come off a bye week.
• 1:10:04
  That was supposed to be the big showdown, us and the Patriots in New England,
• 1:10:08
  both undefeated. They get absolutely pounded in Kansas City.
• 1:10:11
  He does the on to Cincinnati, and I'll never forget it. The opening drive,
• 1:10:16
  that stadium, that energy. There's games where you just know.
• 1:10:20
  You get into the first series of the game and you go, uh-oh, like it's
• 1:10:24
  one of those days. How our game started and how loud it was offensively,
• 1:10:28
  and then when they had the ball with that opening drive and freaking just
• 1:10:32
  methodically, the Brady, you know, just— and then they score
• 1:10:35
  and Tom runs in the end zone, hits the fist pump, an LFG.
• 1:10:39
  He hits the LFG, the entire stadium is chanting Brady.
• 1:10:44
  Brady! Brady! You're sitting on the bench
• 1:10:47
  like, we're about to get this ball back. And there's zero chance we're
• 1:10:51
  winning this game. That's how it felt like, because that place that night,
• 1:10:55
  I'll never forget it. Played in the infamous On to
• 1:10:58
  Cincinnati. So obviously I watched the whole thing.
• 1:11:02
  This is an iconic moment in my sports fandom. Yes, indeed.
• 1:11:06
  And this is something I've talked to people many,
• 1:11:09
  many times over the years about. I've talked to coaches, I've talked to GMs,
• 1:11:12
  I've talked to players, a lot of players about this. Is this
• 1:11:17
  idea that Whitworth is talking about there, where like sometimes no matter
• 1:11:21
  how prepared you are, no matter how good your, your team is, no matter
• 1:11:24
  how ready you feel like in a moment or where
• 1:11:28
  you're at, yeah, there is an energy, a vibe,
• 1:11:32
  a specific— like we call it in, in sports
• 1:11:37
  fandom and in sports, we, we call this thing like there's just a,
• 1:11:40
  there's a momentum, there's an energy to it that you can't you cannot explain.
• 1:11:45
  There's— this exists all over sports. Yeah, it exists with,
• 1:11:48
  you know, I mean, specifically in baseball,
• 1:11:51
  players going through hitting droughts, getting the yips, whatever else,
• 1:11:54
  right? There's all these little things that are like very
• 1:11:58
  woo-woo if you really break it down. Yeah,
• 1:12:01
  whatever. This idea that these
• 1:12:05
  little— that these, that these moments that people experience
• 1:12:09
  in a game where you know, you're outmatched,
• 1:12:13
  not necessarily in talent or on paper, but just because
• 1:12:17
  of a moment. Have you ever experienced something
• 1:12:21
  like that? And do you think if you haven't, do you think it's real?
• 1:12:25
  I have. And it's real. Okay. There is,
• 1:12:30
  there is. So I'm going to give you a story. I didn't
• 1:12:34
  play for him at the time. A guy named Tim Leary. Tim Leary was the
• 1:12:37
  pitching coach at UCLA. He's a UCLA kind of legend. He was a major leaguer,
• 1:12:39
  won a World Series in Los Angeles in '88. Actually won 17
• 1:12:43
  games in 1988 for the Los Angeles Dodgers. No one
• 1:12:47
  ever brings him up because Orel Hershiser threw 50, like, fucking 7 scoreless innings in
• 1:12:51
  a row. Um, but Tim Leary was an amazing pitcher, and he was the pitching
• 1:12:54
  coach at UCLA, and he always had a pitching plan. And I
• 1:12:58
  remember, uh, Gary Adams, who was the legendary head coach there of like 40 years,
• 1:13:02
  anytime things didn't go according to Tim Leary's
• 1:13:06
  pitching plan, he would come up to Gary in around the 5th or 6th
• 1:13:10
  inning because he knew and the vibe, he felt it. And he walked up to
• 1:13:13
  him and he would say to him, like, lean in. And Gary told me this
• 1:13:15
  story along with 3 other people. Gary comes up and he's like, you gotta—
• 1:13:18
  he would lean in. And I knew we were gonna lose any time that Tim
• 1:13:21
  would lean in and say, Gary, we're fucked.
• 1:13:26
  There is times when you just know you're fucked.
• 1:13:29
  But have you ever known before, like, as the game starts?
• 1:13:33
  Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes. You have to understand, when you go into hostile territory
• 1:13:37
  and you're playing with guys that— and it could be a combination of anything.
• 1:13:40
  Sure. It literally could be anything. It could be you see it in one guy's
• 1:13:44
  face, you hear something that just goes like, there is just something
• 1:13:48
  in the vibes. It is woo-woo. It is magical, if you want to put it
• 1:13:52
  that way. I think it's one of the coolest things about sports is that we
• 1:13:55
  all know what it means, but we can't explain
• 1:13:59
  it. Can I make it realistic? Like, can I just try to make it as
• 1:14:02
  close to humanly— well, you don't want to take the magic out
• 1:14:06
  of it. Do you know when you just have a fucking day when
• 1:14:10
  you just— you can't put your finger on it? Yeah, you're— there's something
• 1:14:14
  emotionally happening to you. Yeah, and it could be somebody said something,
• 1:14:17
  but that any other day wouldn't bother you. It could be that somebody
• 1:14:21
  cut you off on the road and any other day wouldn't fucking bother you,
• 1:14:24
  but for some reason the mathematical equation of your emotions
• 1:14:28
  somehow came to this peak. When it comes to teams,
• 1:14:31
  especially if you spend every day together, that shit is like—
• 1:14:35
  there, you can't quantify it, but it's very contagious. That emotional feeling,
• 1:14:39
  you know, people take on each other's emotions, right? It's almost like, it's almost like
• 1:14:43
  that old-fashioned joke, like, where people are saying like, oh, when women's periods
• 1:14:48
  synchronize. Yeah, it's the same fucking thing with emotions in a clubhouse
• 1:14:51
  and a dugout, in a, in a sideline, on on a field, on a court,
• 1:14:56
  when the vibe gets broken. Why leadership is such a big conversation about
• 1:15:00
  like— it's why veteran leadership is so important. It's the person who can tone set.
• 1:15:03
  When we say tone set, we almost act like it's like a, oh, it's a
• 1:15:06
  real tangible thing. No, tone setting is a thing. Very much a
• 1:15:10
  like, like enigmatic sort of just vibe. Yeah. Like, I'll give
• 1:15:14
  an example. I'll give a hockey example. Say you're setting the tone in hockey and
• 1:15:18
  you're going to start the whole fucking thing with a fight. If your guy that
• 1:15:20
  you always— that you get— that wins his fights gets his
• 1:15:23
  ass kicked, that's deflating to your
• 1:15:27
  team. Oh shit, even our tone setter
• 1:15:31
  can't do it. And by the way, the same thing can happen if, you know,
• 1:15:34
  like there will be— their enforcer might go after your best player start
• 1:15:38
  of the game. That's setting a tone. And how you respond to it is too.
• 1:15:41
  I think that like, you know, obviously one of the
• 1:15:45
  most accomplished feared duos
• 1:15:49
  in sports being like, you know, across— splashed
• 1:15:54
  across national headlines and entering a game is probably going to strike
• 1:15:58
  a little bit of fear into a team. But I think it's really fascinating
• 1:16:02
  to hear a player explain what it feels like to be on the other side
• 1:16:05
  of it, because clearly this wasn't a situation where Andrew Whitworth and the
• 1:16:09
  Bengals were like, oh fuck, we got to go up against— they were
• 1:16:13
  excited. They're like, we're going in. They're ready. We're ready for it. Yeah, they're asking
• 1:16:16
  whatever. On to Cincinnati. We're on to Cincinnati happens,
• 1:16:20
  and they're like, okay, well, they're on to Cincinnati, true. And then across the
• 1:16:24
  course of the time, things start getting like a little bit more amped, a little—
• 1:16:27
  it's pretty clear there's like something in the fuck, there's something brewing.
• 1:16:32
  Yeah, right. That changed the whole dynamic
• 1:16:36
  entering the game. Yeah. And to me, like, someone comes
• 1:16:40
  into your house, or someone you come in and, and they can start dominating,
• 1:16:45
  you know, you come into theirs and they can start dominating you mentally. Is it—
• 1:16:49
  they— people act like it's lore,
• 1:16:53
  right? It's just lore. But when you've experienced it or when you've
• 1:16:56
  experienced being in the zone, you know that feeling when you're, you know,
• 1:17:00
  you're playing and you're just like, it's a— it almost feels like you're out of
• 1:17:03
  your body. I'll give you an example, like a real example that I actually did
• 1:17:05
  feel. So when I was called up to the big leagues,
• 1:17:09
  I was playing for the San Diego Padres in 2015. Now on paper, the San
• 1:17:12
  Diego Padres had a really good team, like a really good team. Like it had
• 1:17:16
  like Matt Kemp was there, BJ Upton was there, Justin Upton was there, Josh Johnson
• 1:17:20
  was there. Fuck yeah. All the cutest players in the history of the league.
• 1:17:22
  Craig Kimbrel was there. Like we had— Craig Kimbrel, the hottest. This was a team
• 1:17:26
  that on paper should win, but the personalities were not
• 1:17:30
  gelling. And it turned out when I got up there, everyone fucking
• 1:17:34
  hated each other. It was the most toxic clubhouse I've ever been in. And I
• 1:17:38
  remember going out to the field with this team and it just— I—
• 1:17:42
  everyone was miserable to the point where I should be excited.
• 1:17:46
  It's my first time being called up after grinding for years. I was miserable.
• 1:17:50
  This was miserable. See, this— what you're describing sounds like a normal
• 1:17:53
  experience. No, no, I am. But like, but I'm trying to say how,
• 1:17:57
  how everything can affect you. And then I remember one
• 1:18:01
  time things started like kind of like looking up. And I was like, okay,
• 1:18:05
  things are gonna get better now. And we're going to Dodger Stadium, and I find
• 1:18:08
  out I get to start at Dodger Stadium. And I'll never forget it, which is
• 1:18:11
  amazing because you're from Los Angeles. I'm from Los Angeles. I, I, it's my one—
• 1:18:14
  it's, by the way, it's the only time I ever got to start a big
• 1:18:16
  league game. Yeah, it happened to be in LA at Dodger Stadium, which is so
• 1:18:18
  fucking cool. Very, very cool. Um, but I'll never forget it.
• 1:18:21
  Um, I remember getting on the field, and I remember the first
• 1:18:26
  pitch happened, and I, and I just remember that pitch happened, and I
• 1:18:30
  looked at the field And I just looked at the body language of everybody on
• 1:18:33
  that field. I looked at Jed Jerko at short, who was a very solid baseball
• 1:18:37
  player, and he just— it wasn't his fault, by the
• 1:18:41
  way. I'm not singling out Jed. It was everybody. But I remember looking at Jed
• 1:18:44
  and going, looking at Jed and going like, man, he doesn't look comfortable.
• 1:18:48
  And I'm playing first base and I look at our pitcher and it was Casey
• 1:18:51
  Kelly, who's a fucking phenomenal pitcher. I was like, he doesn't look comfortable.
• 1:18:55
  And I just look around and just everyone just looks like it's the
• 1:18:59
  first inning of the first pitch. Was the Dodgers like intimidating to you guys at
• 1:19:01
  that point? Or— it wasn't that they were intimidating, it was just we're at a
• 1:19:05
  packed Dodger Stadium. Yeah. They look like they're having so much fun.
• 1:19:10
  Yeah. We are here for them
• 1:19:14
  to have so much fun. Yeah. And it almost felt like by
• 1:19:17
  the third inning our team was fodder for these fans to watch
• 1:19:22
  their heroes beat up on us. Yeah. And I'm just like, there is there was
• 1:19:26
  just— we're— we cannot win this game.
• 1:19:29
  There's no universe we can win this game. Yeah, yeah. And we
• 1:19:33
  did not win that game. Yeah, I, I just— and it was just
• 1:19:38
  like the— there's a vibe you cannot quantify.
• 1:19:41
  It is so real. And when you're in a hostile— that wasn't a good Padres
• 1:19:45
  team you were on, right? It wasn't. Yeah, but on paper it absolutely was.
• 1:19:48
  Sure. Like, on paper, Chad Jerko was a phenomenal player.
• 1:19:52
  This team was fucking phenomenal. But like, you couldn't get
• 1:19:56
  the— what you needed. But when we go up there against this insurmountable
• 1:20:00
  hill that is this Los Angeles Dodgers team, yeah, and the vibes are— and
• 1:20:04
  we're at Dodger Stadium, and trust me, when you're at Dodger Stadium and the Dodgers
• 1:20:07
  are playing well, boy oh boy, it's like you just— you just
• 1:20:11
  walked into a place where you're not just an enemy. We practically— it
• 1:20:15
  was like we weren't even looked at like we were fucking existing. They were
• 1:20:19
  like, whatever. Exactly. It was just— there was something about it where like, we just
• 1:20:22
  kind of looked— you guys are the Bengals. We're about to get our asses fucking
• 1:20:24
  handed to us. You were the Bengals going up against the Patriots. We got our
• 1:20:28
  asses handed to us. It was just— listen, there— I wish there was another way
• 1:20:31
  that I can really say it, but dude, it's so real, you know? Like,
• 1:20:34
  I mean, I understand the concept, and I think that like it's really cool to
• 1:20:37
  be able to collect these stories and collect the, the realities of what
• 1:20:42
  it's like to be in those moments. Some of us have been athletes when we
• 1:20:45
  were younger and we haven't done it professionally, but I think everybody who's ever been
• 1:20:48
  like an athlete, a really competitive athlete in any way, shape, or perform, like understands
• 1:20:52
  that feeling of when you're just like in the zone and what it feels like
• 1:20:56
  to be on the other side of a team being in the zone. And I,
• 1:20:59
  I think that that thing, the feeling— like my dream is
• 1:21:03
  to interview or talk to people
• 1:21:07
  who are on the other side of massive upsets, when you're the people— what,
• 1:21:10
  like what it feels like, what's happening to you when you
• 1:21:14
  are the Falcons in 2017. May I give you the opposite
• 1:21:17
  example. Sure. I've also been a part of the opposite example. Yeah, I was a
• 1:21:21
  part of a team once that was so shit on,
• 1:21:25
  so underappreciated, so fucking dismissed
• 1:21:29
  that we fucking took the world
• 1:21:33
  by storm. Nothing to lose. I— and this was in 2017, Team Israel
• 1:21:37
  in the World Baseball Classic. We went into this tournament in Korea, we were
• 1:21:41
  250-to-1 odds to even like get out of the first round.
• 1:21:45
  ESPN wrote an article describing us as has-beens and never-was.
• 1:21:49
  And we're sitting around looking at each other in that clubhouse. And this is a
• 1:21:53
  very tight-knit team, by the way. Pro-Palestine over here, just to
• 1:21:56
  make everyone clear. Me too, by the way. Yeah. No, I said that for
• 1:22:00
  us. Yeah. This show, make no mistake. Yeah. I played for Team Israel.
• 1:22:04
  This was a different time in 2017. Incredibly important to say these days. Yeah.
• 1:22:07
  I want to make this abundantly clear. This was 2017. Very different time. Very,
• 1:22:10
  very educated team. We got the opportunity to take a phone call from Netanyahu and
• 1:22:14
  we all said, fuck no. Yeah, that was 2017.
• 1:22:18
  Netanyahu to fuck himself. Yeah. So we're clear. They asked us if we wanted to
• 1:22:21
  and the 4 of us that were the leaders of the team said, yeah,
• 1:22:24
  sure, put him on the phone. We're going to fucking yell at him. Go ahead
• 1:22:26
  and do it. Anyways, we didn't take the phone call. Yeah. Which, by the way,
• 1:22:29
  people that go to the White House, you can make that choice. So you can
• 1:22:33
  make that choice. It's not that hard. It wasn't that fucking big a deal.
• 1:22:35
  Just fucking didn't do it. Fucking— there you go. Anyway, never, never has-beens.
• 1:22:39
  Never has-beens. So we went in this tournament going like, these motherfuckers
• 1:22:42
  don't seem to understand who these players are. This wasn't like—
• 1:22:47
  we weren't just a bunch of Jewish ballplayers. We were a bunch of downtrodden guys
• 1:22:50
  who have been shit on our entire careers that knew how good we were.
• 1:22:54
  And we're like— I remember for warmups before
• 1:22:58
  we took the field, I— there's a video of me laughing
• 1:23:01
  as I'm running out of the dugout when we're about to take on Korea.
• 1:23:04
  The first game in the whole tournament. We are so not favored
• 1:23:08
  in this at all in this first matchup at Korea versus Korea. And I remember
• 1:23:12
  Tecto Field yelling, they don't know what's coming.
• 1:23:15
  They don't know what's coming. You were like,
• 1:23:19
  you know, that iconic scene in the, in the 30 for 30 about the 2004
• 1:23:23
  Red Sox with Kevin Millar where he said, don't let us win this game.
• 1:23:27
  Don't let us win this game. Don't let— you got a problem. We got Petey
• 1:23:31
  Game 5, and he was fucking right. That exact same thing.
• 1:23:34
  I'm like, they don't know what's coming. I fucking know what's
• 1:23:38
  coming. And then I'll never forget it afterwards. Like, God, I can't believe it.
• 1:23:42
  This was such a shock because not only did we beat them, then we went
• 1:23:45
  on and beat Chinese Taipei. Then we fucked up the Netherlands, who was a
• 1:23:49
  powerhouse. Yeah. Then we go to fucking Japan,
• 1:23:52
  and then we beat Cuba, who was a powerhouse. It was— and then they started
• 1:23:55
  changing the narrative. Well, you guys are just the United States B team.
• 1:23:59
  The fuck? You're like, honestly, that's— that,
• 1:24:03
  that turned into a compliment real quick. Wow. We went from nobodies
• 1:24:07
  to the fucking USA B team. Hell yeah. You guys fucking
• 1:24:11
  don't seem to get it. We were just— we were so pissed off at
• 1:24:15
  the disrespect towards us and our careers. And there was a shit ton of chemistry.
• 1:24:19
  And everyone on that team looked at each other and like, yeah, you're fucking great.
• 1:24:22
  You're fucking great. You're fucking great. And all of us never got the opportunity
• 1:24:26
  we fucking deserved, and we took a fucking bite out of all of their asses.
• 1:24:30
  And I think that that's a big part of the whole thing, is just like
• 1:24:33
  the energy that can be exchanged from people who,
• 1:24:37
  with a shared goal— just wish I were a different country on my chest— the
• 1:24:40
  shared— exactly. But like, you know, at the end
• 1:24:43
  of the day, I was proud of it at the time. Yeah, and you should
• 1:24:46
  be. And, and you have more than done your part
• 1:24:50
  in being the kind of person who should
• 1:24:54
  be representing Jewish Americans. Like, you're an amazing representative. I can't stress this enough.
• 1:24:57
  Like, I support Jews, period, stop. And that's actually— I'm
• 1:25:01
  not to get down this road because this is a very testy road these days,
• 1:25:06
  but I truly want to make this abundantly clear. I'm a proud Jew,
• 1:25:09
  full-life Jew, played for Israel, went to
• 1:25:12
  Israel, represented Israel. Um, those of
• 1:25:16
  you that think that, um, a government
• 1:25:20
  regime and Judaism is the same thing. And I'm
• 1:25:24
  talking mostly about Jews in this scenario. By the way, that people think that because
• 1:25:28
  Netanyahu says it, that makes me truly sick. Now,
• 1:25:31
  they— everybody should know better by now. And antisemitism is insane.
• 1:25:35
  But that's the problem. That is a big problem. Repeatedly tries
• 1:25:40
  to make that correlation. And it's not the same. I'm sorry. Like,
• 1:25:43
  you don't get to have that both ways. You don't get to equate a
• 1:25:47
  religious background, or more importantly for me, 'cause being Jewish has nothing
• 1:25:50
  to do with religion. I'm an atheist. Being Jewish that I am
• 1:25:54
  proud of is more of my heritage and what my family and my family's
• 1:25:58
  family and other families have endured, survived,
• 1:26:02
  and we are survivors. And that's why, and frankly,
• 1:26:05
  because of my Jewish heritage and because of how I see
• 1:26:09
  my Judaism and Jewish heritage, heritage is why I'm
• 1:26:13
  very pro-Palestine, right? Yeah, exactly. And that's—
• 1:26:16
  I mean, that's how every one of my friends feels. I firmly believe
• 1:26:20
  that life should be preserved and uplifted,
• 1:26:24
  and apparently others do not see the same way as me.
• 1:26:27
  Yeah, but you know what, like, there— everybody
• 1:26:30
  has been through their moments where they were challenged to stand on their
• 1:26:34
  principles, and you did it, and you played great baseball while you were at it.
• 1:26:37
  So I fucking love that for you too. And I, I just, I think the
• 1:26:41
  most beautiful thing in the world is that a collective energy can happen around,
• 1:26:46
  around a sports moment, whether it's the actual team, whether it's the fans,
• 1:26:50
  whether it's— yeah, whether it's the, the way the teammates are relating to each other,
• 1:26:53
  whether you're feeding off of the crowd. It's real. It feels
• 1:26:57
  as real as anything I have ever experienced. And I love
• 1:27:00
  to hear athletes talk about it. It might be my favorite thing to talk to,
• 1:27:04
  to athletes about. I experienced it only a little bit myself when I
• 1:27:07
  played sports when I was younger, but I definitely like— I think it's the one
• 1:27:10
  thing that I miss the most about any doing anything competitive is
• 1:27:13
  just like there's some little zone you tap into, you know?
• 1:27:17
  No, no, that's— and I tell people all the time when they ask me,
• 1:27:20
  do you miss it? Do you miss it? Yeah. No, I don't miss playing at
• 1:27:24
  all. You know what I miss? I miss the clubhouse. Yeah. I miss the guys.
• 1:27:26
  I miss that energy when— because those moments, like, I'll tell
• 1:27:30
  you this, that WBC that WBC, the— those moments
• 1:27:34
  that were great in that 2017 WBC will
• 1:27:38
  never be matched in any other sports thing I think that I've ever had,
• 1:27:42
  ever, maybe ever again, which is perfect. And by the way, a lot of people
• 1:27:45
  who, who play for a national team or in an international competition
• 1:27:49
  say the same thing. There's something different about those competitions. It's not— it's, it's,
• 1:27:52
  it, it gives you a different vibe. There is that. But I,
• 1:27:56
  I gotta tell you that as much as I was very proud to represent
• 1:27:59
  people, right, there was something about that group of guys. No, it's the guy—
• 1:28:03
  that's what I mean. Yeah, it's like, it's the people, like that vibe you get
• 1:28:06
  with each other because you have a shared goal in a way that's not,
• 1:28:09
  hey, these people are paying us. Yeah, no, there was— right, there was something really
• 1:28:13
  special about that group of guys. Yeah. And also, just side note, because I always
• 1:28:16
  tell, tell everybody this, uh, athletes for the most part, as you know,
• 1:28:20
  not the brightest. And, and they're just not. They're— they're—
• 1:28:23
  I don't think they're the stupidest people. I don't think they're the stupidest either.
• 1:28:26
  But like, I've in baseball specifically, not a whole lot of smart people.
• 1:28:30
  Um, this was the smartest assembled baseball team.
• 1:28:34
  Okay, ever assembled. No, no, no, ever assembled. Got it.
• 1:28:38
  Ever assembled. Well, you were on it, you know. It wasn't
• 1:28:42
  just me. It was, it was, it was Ryan LeVar Way,
• 1:28:45
  Yale. It was, it was Nate— Red Sox great Ryan LeVar
• 1:28:50
  Way. It was Nate Fryman, Duke. It was, it was Craig Breslow,
• 1:28:54
  Harvard. Well, that's a bunch of fucking NBA players. Yeah, it was, it was,
• 1:28:58
  it was me, UCLA. You just described the NBA. Hold on, I'm not done.
• 1:29:01
  There's— we got some more. There was, uh, hold on, there was what,
• 1:29:05
  uh, uh, who, who played at Stanford? It'll come to me.
• 1:29:08
  Stanford, one of our pitchers who I fucking love. It'll come to me.
• 1:29:12
  Oh man. Uh, but it was, uh, you know, Sammy Fold. It was classic
• 1:29:16
  Sammy Fold. It was a fuck— it was got like an MBA in business,
• 1:29:19
  like It was just— what a fucking team. Like, what a group of not
• 1:29:23
  just ballplayers, what a group of people that I, I would— I was really proud
• 1:29:28
  to be associated with. Those guys on the field, I will, I will always
• 1:29:32
  cherish that. Yeah. And I think that those are the— I
• 1:29:35
  think those little moments of glory are the things that we hold
• 1:29:39
  on to later on when we kind of lose that feeling of being tied
• 1:29:43
  into a collective goal. And I I— we talk so
• 1:29:47
  much about the bullshit in sports, but like, there are really beautiful things that
• 1:29:51
  I love about sports. And it's not just results, and it's not just like analysis.
• 1:29:55
  There's a thing that happens, which is a thing, and people— we
• 1:29:59
  don't ever just like sit in it. And I just like— these
• 1:30:03
  little stories tap me into being a fan. They tap me into being somebody who
• 1:30:06
  loves sports, getting to watch people talk about
• 1:30:10
  this stuff. Yeah, this was about my team, but I'm telling you, I'm like this
• 1:30:14
  with everything. It doesn't have to be about my team. Yeah, it just happened to
• 1:30:16
  be. It came across my thing. But like, I fucking love that stuff. I watched
• 1:30:20
  the— I've watched the Dallas Cowboys documentaries from the '90s
• 1:30:24
  and the stuff they were overcoming and the shit show that they were dealing with
• 1:30:26
  and their relationships with each other. Like, I find it so fascinating. Why do you
• 1:30:30
  say that? Did you know that they made a documentary about our thing? Yeah,
• 1:30:33
  you did tell me. So you're saying it's actually— I would suggest watch it because
• 1:30:36
  it's actually a really good documentary. But here's the thing about it. The documentary that
• 1:30:40
  they were trying to tell was like— and they really wanted
• 1:30:44
  this to be the thing. They wanted it to be like, we're gall-finding our
• 1:30:47
  Jewish, like,
• 1:30:51
  faith. I think they were trying to get to baseball, and none
• 1:30:56
  of us got that. But what the story turned into— and I remember we
• 1:31:00
  were in Japan and I looked at the director, I'm like, you're welcome. He's like,
• 1:31:02
  what? We just gave you an actual watchable documentary. Yeah,
• 1:31:05
  because the documentary turns into this fucking underdog baseball
• 1:31:09
  story. I love that. That is so much better than what the story they were
• 1:31:12
  trying to tell was. Well, wait, where can we watch the documentary? I have no
• 1:31:15
  idea. It's called Heading Home: The Tale of Team Israel. You can't just throw it
• 1:31:18
  out there. What if we had to pay for it? It might be on— last
• 1:31:21
  I checked, it was on Prime. Tubi, maybe? Oh,
• 1:31:25
  actually, it was. It was on Tubi. Okay, check it out. Fine, fine. It's actually
• 1:31:28
  really— I'm telling you, it's actually really, really good. It'll surprise you how good
• 1:31:32
  it is. Okay. And there's even a moment in this thing that I— it's my
• 1:31:36
  favorite part of the entire documentary because when we were in Israel, we met Cody,
• 1:31:40
  had hair. Guys, don't freak out. I did have hair and I didn't have a
• 1:31:43
  beard during this time. It's a whole different person. It's scary. You're not going to
• 1:31:46
  like it. But I will say we were in Israel and I remember we were
• 1:31:50
  met. We were speaking to a Palestinian guy. We were talking. We were having this
• 1:31:52
  great conversation and we asked him, hey, would you support us? And he— in
• 1:31:56
  this tournament, he's like— and he was very kind. He's like, I'm not going to
• 1:32:00
  lie to you. It's very hard for me because of this and this. Just hearing
• 1:32:03
  him talk about it was just— yeah, it was the best moment of
• 1:32:06
  my time in Israel because it was a perspective from somebody who
• 1:32:10
  was so kind that was just being honest about their life,
• 1:32:15
  their— how their life and how they feel they're perceived in their own country
• 1:32:18
  that they're born and raised in. And I thought that was so important
• 1:32:22
  to get that perspective. And it's the only moment of the, of the thing that
• 1:32:26
  actually gives that perspective. And I wish this documentary that they allowed a Palestinian perspective
• 1:32:30
  into it? Uh, a really great director named Jeremy Neuberger.
• 1:32:34
  He is phenomenal. The 2 guys that directed this are great. I'm surprised.
• 1:32:38
  And now, by the way, we went to a lot of film festivals, and I
• 1:32:40
  remember this one time we were doing a Q&A and a woman tried to stand
• 1:32:44
  up. I have a question. I have wanted to say something about the, the Palestinian
• 1:32:48
  portion. And she started going on a soapbox, and I got on the microphone.
• 1:32:50
  That's enough. That's enough. And she's like, no, no, I think I— the fact— no,
• 1:32:53
  no, here's the fact. The fact is this is maybe the most pro-Jewish fucking
• 1:32:57
  movie that's ever existed. Knock your shit off, you're not a fucking victim.
• 1:33:00
  The only person in this movie that was a victim was this man, and not
• 1:33:04
  being willing to hear his perspective tells me a lot more about
• 1:33:07
  you than it does about Jews. And I actually got a nice
• 1:33:12
  ovation on that, and the director said, I can't believe how well you handled that.
• 1:33:14
  I'm like, yeah, where the fuck were you? I'm a fucking baseball player, you made
• 1:33:18
  a movie. Fucking defend it. Listen,
• 1:33:22
  I'm proud of you, I'm always proud of you. I'm so glad
• 1:33:25
  that people are learning a little bit more about not only your baseball career,
• 1:33:29
  but also, you know, the complexities of— well,
• 1:33:32
  but no, I mean, the complexities of being in,
• 1:33:35
  you know, being on a, a team like that and being proud of
• 1:33:39
  what you did and also being able to look back at it. Like, I don't
• 1:33:41
  think enough athletes are able to reflect on who they are as people,
• 1:33:45
  what their achievements are, and to give themselves credit and also say, yeah,
• 1:33:48
  there were also moments in that that I had to make difficult
• 1:33:52
  decisions. There was a couple of moments where we were used as political pawns,
• 1:33:56
  and I— but trust me, I will tell you those stories happily.
• 1:33:59
  Uh, like, it made me— the things they made us do made me fuck— there
• 1:34:02
  were 2 things they made us do that made me legitimately sick. And I think
• 1:34:05
  that, like, I think that at the end of the day, you know, like,
• 1:34:07
  there— anybody who watches our show is
• 1:34:11
  very clear on our values and very clear on
• 1:34:15
  the things that matter the most to us, and You
• 1:34:19
  know, the com— how we get to be the people that we are today,
• 1:34:23
  how we get to that place, the things we look back on and think,
• 1:34:26
  damn, there's a bunch of shit I didn't know. Being honest
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  about that is not— that's not a fucking knock on,
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  on us beyond— it's only a knock if we didn't learn. It's only a
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  knock if we didn't grow. It's only a knock if now,
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  you know, you're, you're easily propagandized too, by whether
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  it's by the American government. Oh God. Or the Israeli government or
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  whoever, buddy. Like, you know, sure, are a
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  bunch of Israelis propagandized? Absolutely. Yeah,
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  so are we. Very. Oh God, yes. So are we.
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  No question about it. We're all fighting the same uphill battle. We've all,
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  as white people— I can't speak for non-white people,
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  but as white people specifically, we've had our shit fucked
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  up forever. Yeah, we're slowly but surely deconstructing over and over again. We're doing
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  our very best to do to do that. Yeah. And I think that it's—
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  I think it's one of the coolest things about your career that you're able to
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  speak from a place of being able to say, actually, I did stand on principle
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  before I even knew how bad things were. I stood on principle.
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  And by the way, at the time, things weren't nearly that bad. Like, things— they
• 1:35:31
  were— you didn't know. No, no, portions were bad. Like, because a couple years earlier,
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  the whole Iron Dome thing was going on, if you remember those. But at this
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  point, things were relatively peaceful. Well, right, right, right, right, right. There was—
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  but there, there was apartheid. Oh no, there was absolutely issues.
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  But like, but I'm saying relatively. I'm saying relatively. And, and I'm
• 1:35:51
  just basically using today's standards as a comparison. Yeah, we didn't— I didn't know what
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  the fuck was going on over there. I can't claim like I knew what the
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  fuck was going on. It was a different thing. And like, here's the thing,
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  I— and that's another reason I'm glad you said that, because it's another reason why
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  we do this show, um, and why I'm proud of this show. Because sports
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  are used right now, especially more than ever, they're used
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  as a propaganda wing for these things.
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  I think the glaring example that everyone can use is the
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  Saudi money that has been inflicted, and inflicted, I'm using that word
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  very intentionally, inflicted into the world of sports.
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  Now look at what the US government is doing with all the sports. Truly just
• 1:36:29
  pay attention. Pay attention to Paramount and everything that they're purchasing right
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  now and how they're being used as a wing of the US government right now.
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  I, I don't know what else to tell you other than we are not— sports
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  are politics. Yeah, you know, I— we are not any less propagandized
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  as a mass society than anybody
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  else in the world, and we're all just doing our best and, um, being honest
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  about where we stand and hopefully being always being open to being educated.
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  I will say, um, the fact that we
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  are open to being educated applies to everything but
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  one specific person So before we finally sign off, after everybody has listened
• 1:37:07
  to us have our long emotional moment— yes, like,
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• 1:37:15
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• 1:37:19
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• 1:37:23
  Kurt Schilling. Cody, we leave you with anything.
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  If we— if you have nothing else to take away from this episode?
• 1:37:31
  Um, fuck Churchill. Fuck Churchill. For the regulars, like, share, subscribe.
• 1:37:34
  Cheers. We'll see you Monday.