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Liberating Slaves, Saving Lives and the Future of Europe · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 4: Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us. It is
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  Speaker 4: talk about today. And I don't, it's like a world
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  Speaker 4: the top five news stories that are breaking today. But
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  Speaker 4: if you walk through them, there are some interesting observations
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  Speaker 4: them today was because of that very thing. I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: at the headlines, and I'm looking at specifically what's going
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  Speaker 4: on in France. And I don't think this is very smart.
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  Speaker 4: The French President Macron took off. His country is burning
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  Speaker 4: to the ground. He has out-of-control riots. that his police
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  Speaker 4: forces are having a tough time mitigating. And because they're
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  Speaker 4: happening all over the country, he can't concentrate forces into
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  Speaker 4: one area. So he has depleted forces trying to fight
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  Speaker 4: these vast number of riots. But he said, nope, I'm
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  Speaker 4: out and I'm headed to the Gulf. And last night
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  Speaker 4: he went to a concert. I guess it's just life
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  Speaker 4: is normal. If you're Emmanuel Macron, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 4: what began weeks earlier as student led demonstrations. Now you're
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  Speaker 4: seeing because of all the videos posted to social media,
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  Speaker 4: you're showing groups of men waving foreign flags, engaging in
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  Speaker 4: massive destruction. The number I'm seeing is that they've already
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  Speaker 4: lost $ 1 billion worth of property damage. And amid all
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  Speaker 4: of this, um, He's headed out of town. It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: make a lot of sense, especially when it was his
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  Speaker 4: policies that brought it all about. He saw what happened.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what's interesting. In Europe with France right now, Macron's going,
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  Speaker 4: how did this happen? It's a bunch of left wing
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  Speaker 4: crazies that are trying to overrun everything. And they're shouting
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  Speaker 4: Palestine and, you know, death to Israel and death to
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  Speaker 4: America and all the other things that these people have
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  Speaker 4: been shouting. And all he had to do was have
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  Speaker 4: his eyes open 10 years ago when the same thing
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  Speaker 4: was happening with Germany, when Angela Merkel was having her
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  Speaker 4: borders wide open and saying, hey, we need cheap labor,
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  Speaker 4: bring them all in. The difference is somewhat like in America,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of our illegal immigration came from predominantly Catholic
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  Speaker 4: cultures and societies. We do have a number of terrorists
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  Speaker 4: that got into the country. But in Europe, all of
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  Speaker 4: their illegal migrants come from the Middle East or from Africa,
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  Speaker 4: where radical Islam is growing and rampant. So I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure why he was so surprised. Macron got some criticism
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  Speaker 4: from Marine Le Pen, his conservative contender last year for
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  Speaker 4: the last round of elections. But she said that France
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  Speaker 4: is caught in a vice between violence and impotence. And that,
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  Speaker 4: to me, is really what it looks like. We've got
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people on the show today that I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to ask about this, by the way. Specifically, Katie
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  Speaker 4: McFarlane and Simon Hankinson. Katie served under three administrations to
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  Speaker 4: presidents advising on national security issues. And she's got some
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  Speaker 4: definitive ideas about what she thinks about the situation. And
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  Speaker 4: Simon Hankinson comes at this from a kind of different perspective.
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  Speaker 4: He worked in state department adjacent work with people and
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  Speaker 4: immigrants and migrants. And he's seen some of this stuff
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  Speaker 4: up close. And it's going to be an interesting couple
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  Speaker 4: of conversations. Those are both in our two today. So
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  Speaker 4: I hope you'll stick around for the full show. But
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  Speaker 4: it's just you've got to recognize that. If you've given
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  Speaker 4: out all your resources, and you're still guaranteeing that everybody's
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  Speaker 4: going to get their stuff, and you run out of stuff,
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  Speaker 4: how do you fix that? So it's an interesting dilemma,
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  Speaker 4: but we're still watching that. We'll get some qualified national
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  Speaker 4: security perspective on that today. Speaking of radical Islam, Ilhan
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  Speaker 4: Omar's husband had a winery... that had to be closed
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  Speaker 4: because of fraud claims, according to James Comer of the
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  Speaker 4: House Oversight Committee. He's the chairman of that committee. And
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  Speaker 4: he said over the weekend that the winery had been
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  Speaker 4: selling empty barrels to investors under the guise of wine
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  Speaker 4: yet to be aged, but they were empty. Comer told
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  Speaker 4: Trey Gowdy that I can tell you from our initial
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  Speaker 4: investigation of Omar and her financial disclosures form that there
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  Speaker 4: are multiple fronts where you could get a search warrant issued.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, not only was there a huge discrepancy
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  Speaker 4: in the financial disclosure form, there was the winery that
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  Speaker 4: was the big base of her $ 25 million listing on
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  Speaker 4: her financial disclosures. That winery has, according to the press,
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  Speaker 4: been shut down because of fraud. The winery co-owned by
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  Speaker 4: the congresswoman's husband, Tim Manette, shut down in April amid
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  Speaker 4: that scrutiny over their finances. But one of the things
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  Speaker 4: that they're accused of is selling empty barrels of wine
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  Speaker 4: to investors. The more that we learn about Ilan Omar
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  Speaker 4: and what she thinks of this country... and how she
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  Speaker 4: treats the people of this country, the more I am
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  Speaker 4: really not that bothered by the fact that the DOJ
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  Speaker 4: is investigating her. And if it comes down to having
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  Speaker 4: to look at her immigration to see if it was legal,
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  Speaker 4: maybe possibly deporting her. We've never deported a sitting member
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  Speaker 4: of Congress. But I kind of think that she's earning
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  Speaker 4: it if this stuff isn't accounted for in a, in
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  Speaker 4: a sincere way. So anyway, we got all of that. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: there's a couple of other things. Oh, later on, I
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: He is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back. It's That Kevin Show. Thank you for being
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  Speaker 4: with us and thank you for being here each weekday.
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  Speaker 4: Before we have any other discussions about news or policy
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  Speaker 4: or what's going on in the world, you know that
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  Speaker 4: we like to take this portion of the show, set
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  Speaker 4: it aside and say, let's ask the big question. How
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  Speaker 4: do we live? We don't ask the big questions much
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  Speaker 4: anymore as a culture. We don't ask who we are,
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  Speaker 4: why we're here. We don't ask any of those. So
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  Speaker 4: how do we live? And if we love God and
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  Speaker 4: we love his word and we want to know more
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  Speaker 4: about accurately how to follow him and how to represent
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  Speaker 4: him and how to advance his kingdom, then I think
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  Speaker 4: we need to engage in this exercise every day. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm grateful. I'm grateful for shepherds that spend a week
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  Speaker 4: at a time with me. And this week, I'm doubly
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  Speaker 4: blessed because we've got Pastor Rod Caesar III, who is
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  Speaker 4: the senior lead pastor at Foundation Church, and his father,
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  Speaker 4: Bishop Roderick Caesar, who is a longtime friend and someone
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  Speaker 4: who has pretty big birthday celebration coming up here soon.
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  Speaker 4: And we're going to have a lot of fun with
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  Speaker 4: that as well. But gentlemen, I am so grateful for
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  Speaker 4: the legacy that's represented in your lives. And Rod, let's
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  Speaker 4: just jump into it. Yesterday, we talked about from Romans 12,
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  Speaker 4: what it means to be transformed by the renewing of
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  Speaker 4: our mind. And we touched on the idea of surrender. Today,
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  Speaker 4: you want to focus us on faith. Where are we
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  Speaker 4: going there? Yeah, thank you, Kevin.
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  Speaker 3: It's great to be on the show and just have
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  Speaker 3: this important discussion and dialogue. I think as we look
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  Speaker 3: to be transformed, there's different ways we can be transformed,
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  Speaker 3: of course, as Romans says, by the renewal of our mind.
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  Speaker 3: And that transformation comes with different areas. We were transformed
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  Speaker 3: in surrender. Today, we're transformed by faith. Faith meaning not
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  Speaker 3: being bogged down by the doubts of the world, by
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  Speaker 3: the doubts of the things that we see from day
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  Speaker 3: to day, the things that can really creep in. But
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  Speaker 3: living by the word of God, living by faith, living
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  Speaker 3: by the victory that we have in Christ and walking
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  Speaker 3: by faith and not necessarily by what we see, because
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  Speaker 3: we know what we see.
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  Speaker 1: Can be very discouraging.
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  Speaker 3: So walking by faith is extremely important.
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  Speaker 4: Bishop, it has to do your heart some good to
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  Speaker 4: hear your son speak those words because there's never been
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  Speaker 4: a more important message. And he's pastoring in a time
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  Speaker 4: now that is as full of challenge as possibly anything
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  Speaker 4: you faced in the years that you were in the pulpit.
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  Speaker 4: But from the perspective of someone who has walked along
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  Speaker 4: the path a little bit further than Rod and myself,
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  Speaker 4: what are your thoughts about what it means to be
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  Speaker 4: walking by faith?
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  Speaker 7: It's absolutely essential to the relationship with Christ. The scripture
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  Speaker 7: lets us know that if we don't exercise faith, we
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  Speaker 7: can't make him happy. We can't please him. And he
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  Speaker 7: rewards those who diligently seek him. So faith is something
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  Speaker 7: that permeates every aspect of our lives. And faith is
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  Speaker 7: something you learn experientially. You learn intellectually in the textbook.
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  Speaker 7: But you learn experientially in your life when you have
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  Speaker 7: to literally leap out there and know that God's word
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  Speaker 7: is true. I say the faith is stepping out on
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  Speaker 7: nothing and knowing that something will be there by the
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  Speaker 7: time your foot hits the ground.
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  Speaker 4: But Bishop, that's like, I love the beauty of that
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  Speaker 4: word picture, but that's scary. That is really scary.
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  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It's quite scary, but that's what faith is all about.
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  Speaker 7: Faith is not an easy walk. Faith is a challenging walk.
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  Speaker 7: And it's a walk that involves us putting absolute confidence
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  Speaker 7: and trust in the Lord. And if we don't do it,
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  Speaker 7: then we're not really walking by faith.
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  Speaker 2: If we have to look at the.
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  Speaker 7: Ground ahead of us and tap it to make sure
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  Speaker 7: it can support us as not quicksand, then we're not
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  Speaker 7: walking by faith. Faith is literally stepping out into nothing
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  Speaker 7: And having the confidence that by the time your foot
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  Speaker 7: hits what should be the ground, something will be there
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  Speaker 7: to support you. It's like Abraham when he went to
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  Speaker 7: take Isaac up and offer him as a sacrifice. He
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  Speaker 7: had to believe that God would honor his word. And
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  Speaker 7: that he and Isaac would come back home and celebrate
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  Speaker 7: what they had done. And if he did not believe
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  Speaker 7: God by faith, there would have been.
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  Speaker 2: No attempt at the sacrifice whatsoever.
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  Speaker 7: He would have failed the test and the scripture would
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  Speaker 7: have something else to say about him in the footnotes.
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  Speaker 7: But he believed God and he believed him to the
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  Speaker 7: extent where he said to his son, when his son said, dad,
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  Speaker 7: we see the fire and the wood, where's the sacrifice?
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  Speaker 7: And he said to his son, God will provide himself
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  Speaker 7: a sacrifice. In other words, that's not my job. I
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  Speaker 7: don't have to worry about it. God's going to take
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  Speaker 7: care of that. I just have to be obedient.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 7: And that's really what faith is all about, being obedient
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  Speaker 7: to the word and to the command of the Lord.
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  Speaker 4: So, gentlemen, let me ask you this. And again, Rod
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  Speaker 4: and I don't have the advantage of looking back quite
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  Speaker 4: as far down the journey, Bishop, as you do. But
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  Speaker 4: can you each think of a time in your life
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  Speaker 4: when you know absolutely that you did step out in faith?
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  Speaker 4: And what was the result of that in a moment
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  Speaker 4: of ministry or life or Maybe you're just your own
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  Speaker 4: discipleship with Christ. But give us an example, if you
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  Speaker 4: have one, that comes to mind of some time in
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  Speaker 4: your life where you stepped out in faith and God
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  Speaker 4: met you and you saw it and it was like
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  Speaker 4: reinforcing the faith that you already had.
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  Speaker 7: I can answer that one very quickly. When my son
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  Speaker 7: was born, he was born three months premature. He weighed
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  Speaker 7: one pound, nine ounces at birth. I could hold him
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  Speaker 7: in the palm of my hand. And the doctor looked
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  Speaker 7: at me and the doctor said, he will not survive
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  Speaker 7: 24 hours. Don't get your hopes up. He's not going
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  Speaker 7: to make it.
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  Speaker 2: But the Lord had already.
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  Speaker 7: Spoken into my heart and told me I should not
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  Speaker 7: be concerned about that. He was going to survive. So
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  Speaker 7: I looked the doctor in the face and I said.
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  Speaker 2: You're wrong.
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  Speaker 7: And he said, what makes you think I'm wrong? I said,
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  Speaker 7: because I have a word from the Lord. And the
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  Speaker 7: Lord said, all is well. So my son is going
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  Speaker 7: to survive. He looked at me with a note of
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  Speaker 7: cynicism and he said, well, hold on to your faith.
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  Speaker 7: I said, I'll do just that. And I began to
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  Speaker 7: pray and believe God for one hour past 24. The
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  Speaker 7: miracle is not the lifetime. The miracle begins the next step.
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  Speaker 7: If he made it for 25 hours, I would have
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  Speaker 7: had my miracle, even if the Lord called him home
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  Speaker 7: right after that, because the doctor said 24. And I
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  Speaker 7: wanted to prove the doctor wrong. So I was looking
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  Speaker 7: for the one hour. And we're 30 some odd years
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  Speaker 7: into that 25th hour now.
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  Speaker 4: That's a hard one to outdo. But Rod, do you
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  Speaker 4: have a moment that you've known you were walking by faith?
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  Speaker 4: You saw it come true right in front of your face?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll let that testimony stand and speak.
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  Speaker 3: I think my father's recounting kind of my story. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's... that's big and I think for me making
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  Speaker 3: that story my own and walking out in that realizing
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  Speaker 3: because we have the faith to believe forward but also
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  Speaker 3: the faith to look back for me I still have
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  Speaker 3: the tracheotomy scar from that and just looking back and
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  Speaker 3: saying yeah God this is something that I of course
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  Speaker 3: am too young to remember but I do believe that
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  Speaker 3: you've preserved my life I have the scar to prove
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  Speaker 3: it and you know the book that my mother's written
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  Speaker 3: years ago to kind of remind me you know and
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  Speaker 3: I think that it's those, those moments of, Hey, even
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  Speaker 3: looking back, believing by faith that God did this, I
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  Speaker 3: can be able to kind of be propelled and step
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  Speaker 3: forward into what the Lord is calling me to do
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  Speaker 3: and have the faith to move forward because of the
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  Speaker 3: goodness of what he's done in the past.
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  Speaker 4: That's, that's a positive example of what faith is, of
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  Speaker 4: what it looks like. It's kind of granular. This is
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  Speaker 4: faith with clothes on what we just described. Um, Let
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  Speaker 4: me shift gears on that just for a second, because
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of charlatans on TV that talk about
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  Speaker 4: what faith is in their universe. And it's buying their
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  Speaker 4: prayer hanky or God's going to give them a Porsche
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  Speaker 4: or like there's all kinds of ways that walking by
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  Speaker 4: faith gets distorted. Help us help us understand clearly the
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  Speaker 4: difference between the two. Bishop, let me start with you.
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  Speaker 7: The difference between the two is one is real faith
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  Speaker 7: and the other is imitation based upon the material. The
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  Speaker 7: faith where the prayer hankies and all that comes in
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  Speaker 7: is based upon you giving to get. And real faith
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  Speaker 7: is giving because God said so. And what you get
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  Speaker 7: in return is what God has for you. It's not
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  Speaker 7: dollar for dollar or 10 for one. You get good health,
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  Speaker 7: good strength, soundness of mind, peace, joy, fulfillment. You get
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  Speaker 7: so much more. And if you reduce God to being
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  Speaker 7: a genie that just delivers you what you.
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  Speaker 2: Want, then he's not God.
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  Speaker 7: He's a fictitious God. God is sovereign and he gives
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  Speaker 7: us the best gifts.
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  Speaker 2: I say to the congregation, God.
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  Speaker 7: Gives the best gifts to those who lead the choice
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  Speaker 7: to him. So when you give, when you exercise faith
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  Speaker 7: in giving, what you do is you just do what
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  Speaker 7: God commands you to do and then sit back and
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  Speaker 7: wait for God to do what he.
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  Speaker 4: Wants to do.
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  Speaker 7: And, uh.
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  Speaker 2: will supply all of our.
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  Speaker 7: Need, not needs.
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  Speaker 2: Because our needs many times are our wants.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 7: And he will provide all of our need, which is food, raiment,
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: and shelter. Everything else is a benefit.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that on that note, Bishop, and we're
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: out of time for today, but tomorrow maybe we can
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: follow up on this. I think there are moments of,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: in our faith, in trying to be in alignment with
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: God's will, that his decision is different than what we
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: would choose left to our own devices.
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: And I think we need to understand some more on that.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: So we'll pick up on that. But Pastor Rod Caesar
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: III and Bishop Roderick R. Caesar Foundation Church in New York,
• 20:31
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• 20:34
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• 20:36
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• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Kevin McCullough, when we come back
• 20:41
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• 20:43
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• 20:47
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• 21:09
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• 21:11
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• 21:12
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• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Welcome back.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Kevin McCullough. Glad to have you with us.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's That Kevin Show.
• 21:18
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• 21:22
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• 21:25
  Speaker 4: It's all there. It's all free. We never put it
• 21:28
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• 21:30
  Speaker 4: to it. I want to say thank you to the
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: trio of Pauls today. Paul from Malene, Alabama says, And
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Paul in Maywood, New Jersey. And Paul in Breezy Point,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: New York. All within the last couple of days.
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: That's hilarious.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Liberated slaves.
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: Awesome and funny at the same time. Through Christian Solidarity.
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: Very interesting.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: And then there's this other guy named David. He had
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: to break the pattern. He's from Bakersfield, California. And he
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: also liberated a slave.
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: Maybe his middle name is Paul.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it probably is. they all gave gifts friends in
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: excess of $ 250. And the, uh, the, the significance of
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: that is real simple. Um, every one of those men
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: that I just mentioned will have liberated a human being,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: a life, a life that will be forever changed because
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: they are now free. Um, and Todd Chapman is back
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: with us from Christian Solidarity International. Todd, I never get
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: over the fact that there are people constantly tuning in
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: for the first time and they're constantly saying, wait, what,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: what's this about slavery? What's this about liberation? Um, We
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: don't we solve that problem 100 years ago more. How
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: come you're talking about it now? What do you say
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: to them?
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I think, first of all, we live in
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: a bit of a bubble here in the United States.
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: And so, you know, if it's if it's not happening
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: for the most part within our borders or even our communities,
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: a lot of times we're just not aware of stuff.
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: You know, that's that's just the media world that we
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: live in these days. And, you know, what we're talking
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: about here, you know, we're talking about something that actually
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: has been going on for many, many years. The taking
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: of these slaves happened, as my kids would say, in
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: the last century. So it happened a while back. But
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: it was at a level that most people, when, yeah,
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: people are so surprised when I talk to them about this.
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: They're like, how have I never heard about this? Most
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: people haven't. I mean, you would have to be pretty
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: steeped in global history. history and international relations and Christian
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: persecution to really be aware of this. But our lack
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: of awareness doesn't make it any less significant, any less painful,
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: any less profound, any less heinous and evil. And so
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: that's why we're so thrilled to be able to have
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: the opportunity to come on Kevin's show. And we've been
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: doing it for years and bring it in front of you,
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: make you aware of it. Because what we found is
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: once people know about this and they understand the not
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: just on the macro level, but you understand on an
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: individual level how just incredibly viciously these human beings have
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: been treated simply because they just happen to believe differently
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: and were in a part of the world, in a
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: country at the time that was largely Christian, and these
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: Muslim marauders were basically allowed to throw down on them
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: and do what they wanted. Well, now all of that
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: has stopped, but the remnants were 150 plus thousand, probably
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: 200,000 is the ballpark estimate. When this, uh, you know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: after this slavery broke out have remained in captivity most
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: of that time. And so CSI has been setting them
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: free one slave at a time. And, uh, So, yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: I think I think that's the big thing, Kevin. I
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: just think, you know, it's it's interesting to when people
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: become aware of the level of slavery and bondage and
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: abuse in the world. I do find that most Christians
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: suddenly they're activated and they're like, OK, this is not right.
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: I need to be doing something about it. So if
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: that's your you know, if that's your disposition, you're in
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: the right place to actually do something about that and
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: free a Sudanese slave, one like a dude. That's just
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: one story, Kevin, out of hundreds of thousands of stories
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: of people. But they're all very similar. Taken as a child,
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: primarily women, but some boys at the time were taken.
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: And now their whole life growing up in slavery, being
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: abused until their day of deliverance comes. Got to feel
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: a little bit like the Israelites being led out of Egypt, right?
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: After so, so much time in captivity. Except they go
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: willingly and not grumblingly and they come into freedom and
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: they're set on a path to having this new sustainable life. $ 250, friend,
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: you do that for $ 250. It's incredible.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: And I'm thinking since so many of these women, when
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: they were taken, were in essence Christians raised by Christians,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: knew of the Christian faith. gospel and knew what it
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: was to worship Jesus. But as soon as they were
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: taken into captivity, their Muslim slave masters forbade that. And
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: so a lot of them were forced to take Muslim
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: names and to do things like circumcise themselves, trying to
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: be as polite as I can in terms of describing it,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: but without any medical help or sanitary conditions to do
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: it in. And that's in addition to the sexual assault
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: and the rape and the beatings and the vulgar verbal
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: abuse that was taking place. And at the end of
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: the day, when you give them their freedom from captivity,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: you're releasing them from all of that. You're giving them
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: a life where none of that occurs anymore. And not
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: only does it not occur, they can now proactively go
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: back to worshiping the Jesus that they weren't even allowed
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: to pray to out loud. If they were caught praying
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: to Jesus out loud while in captivity, it could mean
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: their death. But many of them did pray just silently
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: and quietly to themselves night after night. God, please see me.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Please hear my cry. Hear my prayer. Help us be liberated.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: And Now that they have the chance to do that,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: the ones that are coming out into freedom are telling us,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: don't give up. Don't give up until you get all
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: of them. We've got to get all of the slaves liberated.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: 888-342-1010.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: $ 250 does that for one person. $ 250 permanently liberates a slave.
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: We have 232 slaves' names on a list this year.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: We're trying to get every one of them liberated. Will
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: you help us?
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Here he is from New York.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: That Kevin.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Welcome back.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Kevin McCullough.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: Glad to have you with us.
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: Friends, I don't want there to be much time that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Goes by for us to get all 232 slaves liberated. Kevin,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: what are you talking about?
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: 232 slaves.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the number of names that we have at
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Christian Solidarity International this year of slaves that have been found, discovered.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: We know for a fact that they are slaves. We
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: know for a fact that their slave master has entered
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: into at least a discussion with our Arab retrievers that
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: are trying to help these slaves go free. And those
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: are the ones that we have the potential to liberate
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: this year, right now, before the end of the year.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: And if you can imagine it, Maybe give these people,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: these women who have been in captivity for dozens of
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: years each, maybe give them a Christmas where they not
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: only get to go free, but maybe have the best
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Christmas presents ever in something called a bag of hope.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: We'll tell you all about it. Todd Chapman is back
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: with me from Christian Solidarity International. And Todd, the tendency
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: is to think with slavery aside. Well, we emphasize the
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: harsh things, right? Because that's why slavery is so immoral.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Like if slavery were simply just living in some way.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: house and being fed bonbons and having all the advantages
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: of just being there, but there was no negative treatment,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: you might still wish you had autonomy, but you wouldn't
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: be afraid for your life. So we focus on all
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the abuse, the rape, the sexual assault, the verbal, the physical,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: the beatings, everything that they go through. But I think
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: that sells us short on just what a good thing
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: your gift does when a slave is liberated. Because as
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: dark as that is, as horrific and as terrible and
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: as depressing and as probably hopeless as that seems, when
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: you set a slave free with CSI, their life becomes
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: the opposite. So if they've been in darkness, they're now
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: in light, the light of hope, the light of joy,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: the light of gratitude, the light of peace, the light
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: of being able to live their life and make their
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: own decisions and not be beholding to a slave master
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: who has the ability to kind of thumbs up or
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: thumbs down whether or not they get to live or
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: eat that day. And that's what I want people to understand.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Your gift is not just making a statement about something
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: that's dark and terrible, which we want to. We want
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: to condemn slavery with every ounce within our being. But
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: we want you to know more so about the joy,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: the peace, the gratitude that comes from that because your
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: gift is what makes that possible. It's the light switch
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: between living in the dark of slavery and living in
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: the light of being free and worshiping Jesus openly as
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: they do. And Todd CSI does it better than anyone else.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: But that's what I want people to take away. I
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: want them to get involved, not because we're just doing
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: something to stop evil, but because of all the good
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: that it produces. Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure. And also, but I think it's, you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: a big part of the motivation for us as followers
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: of Christ is that, you know, the reason why I'm
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: very clear in the Bible, it is for freedom that
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: Christ himself came.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: I mean, that slavery or bondage of any type basically flies.
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: It goes against the very essence of God's creation. That's
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: why this is such a powerful concept.
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: Because God created us all. We are created in his image.
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: But even though God created us, he doesn't demand that
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: we serve him. He actually gives us free will. He
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: gives us agency. And that's how much God loves us.
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: And so when any human being is enslaved and that
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: agency is removed from them and their dignity is diminished,
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: that's abhorrence to our father. And God's very clear. He says, no,
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: this is I am against this. And so he calls us,
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: his followers, his children to be against it as well.
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: But I think, you know, that needs to extend to
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: more than just being against it in our minds and
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: in our words. We need to be against it in
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: our actions.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 9: The Bible says faith without works is dead. You can
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: believe something all day long. But what are you going
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: to do with that belief? Are you actually putting it
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: into an action that has a significant impact? And in
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: this case, it's significant impact for one human being. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: here's the thing, Kev, you know, if enough of us
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: free one human being, then what you see CSI has
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: been able to do through the power of God and
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: God's people over the last 30 years, one person at
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: a time or maybe three or five people at a time,
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: that's rolled up to 160,000 ish. Sudanese slaves being freed.
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: That is phenomenal.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: I mean, just to think. And again, most people have
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: never heard about this. They didn't know that there were
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: a couple thousand, you know, women and children taken into
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: slavery back in the last century. They didn't know they've
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: lived for 30 years just being beaten and abused and
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: without the ability to walk away whenever they want and
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: go back home like any human being should be able
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: to do. It took God's people, number one, becoming aware
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: and number two, becoming motivated to set them free. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: so that's why I get pumped up about this opportunity
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: to bring this to you every year, because every year
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: we find even more people that are like, I had
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: no idea this is so wrong and I want to
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: do something about it. And so, you know, people jump
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: in and every year through that Kevin show and a
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: couple other platforms that we've got, We're able to see,
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: you know, two, three thousand slaves rescued every year. And
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: we're hoping and praying that happens again this year.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: I've honestly never told anyone about the cause of CSI
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: and the Sudanese slaves that they have not responded in
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: a way that says, I want to do everything that I.
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: Can to stop that.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Which I think is great because you don't have to.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: You don't have to understand anything worse than that you
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: get to mitigate suffering and bring joy into their life
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: in a way that nothing else will do. I also
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: want to talk to those of you that have been
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: extraordinarily blessed by God because that blessing comes with purpose.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: And if you are looking for a means to which
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: you can give significant purpose to the wealth or to
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: the abundance that God has blessed you with, Consider a
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: gift of $ 2, 500 and help 10 find liberation. Consider a
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: gift of $ 25, 000 and help 100 slaves be free. We
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: have room for you to be able to do that.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: And so we would love for you to examine your
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: heart and say, what can be done? And I know
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: that my audience thinks this way. Just last month, we
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: had someone say, how far would a $ 100, 000 gift go
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: to give Bibles to people that want them? That's a
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: generous heart. That's a God That's a God-centered heart. And
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: he was on his way to the airport last minute going,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: I got to get out of town. Where do I call?
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Where do I go? Gave the gift. We're grateful for it. Friends,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I think that there are people being called right now
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: to do something similar in a fashion that would liberate
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: human lives and thus give two seasons of joy to
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: these women in the moment that they're living in now
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: and for all of eternity to be able to return
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: to the roots of their faith worship with fellow believers
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: and rejoice in what god has done for them 888-342-1010
• 35:37
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  Speaker 4: and whether or not a Supreme Court justice knows how
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  Speaker 4: to define a woman or not. Well, WNBA commissioner, W
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  Speaker 4: being the word woman in the WNBA acrostic, WNBA commissioner
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  Speaker 4: Kathy Engelbert told Republican lawmakers that former NBA players Ennis
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  Speaker 4: Cantor Freedom and Royce Weiss are ineligible to play in
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  Speaker 4: the league because they are both men. She was responding
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  Speaker 4: to a congressional inquiry without supplying the definition of women
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  Speaker 4: that lawmakers had requested. With respect to your questions regarding eligibility,
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  Speaker 4: only women are eligible to play in the NBA, and
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  Speaker 4: the individuals you cite in your letter are both men,
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  Speaker 4: player safety and confrontations with fans. Freedom and White had
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  Speaker 4: announced plans to enter the 2027 WNBA draft while saying
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  Speaker 4: they identify as women. Why is she allowed to just?
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  Speaker 4: discount them? She can discriminate based on not accepting what
• 39:37
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  Speaker 4: puts on women's underwear and tightens things up and grows
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  Speaker 4: his hair long and gives himself implants and he goes
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  Speaker 4: out and he pretends to be a woman, they shouldn't
• 40:14
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• 40:18
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  Speaker 4: with here. Because a couple of different forces have converged
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  Speaker 4: in my mind about this. First, you see all of
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: the dishonesty in the headlines right now. You've got France
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  Speaker 4: defaulting on promises to citizens, so the whole place is
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  Speaker 4: burning down. You've got... people just flat out lying about
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: their political opponents. You've got Ilan Omar and her husband
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  Speaker 4: selling empty barrels of wine to investors. And so all
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  Speaker 4: of that dishonesty is kind of hanging out in one
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  Speaker 4: side of my brain. And then my pastor on Sunday
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: talked about, we're studying through the book of Mark, and
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: he talked about the sower and the seed and how
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: the seed falls on different soil. And sometimes the soil
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: is not, responsive to the seed that it falls on.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: And sometimes it falls into rocky places and sometimes it
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: falls into thorny places and it gets choked out for
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: certain reasons. And then the sower eventually sows seed onto
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: fertile ground and grows a crop and everything's good. But
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: in the thorny place, he talked about how sometimes good
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: things in our life can shout out the gospel, can
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: choke out the gospel. And he was saying that sometimes
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: we even make good things idols. And I've never really
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: heard this before, except for my pastor. But he said
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: it a couple of times that sometimes we even make
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: idols of our own family. When sometimes the most loving
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: thing we can do is not to make an idol
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: of them or to gloss over things, but rather to
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: tell them the truth. Lovingly, of course, because you want
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: their welfare. But I have to give... some pretty big
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: props today with those two things in the back of
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: my mind to Amy Acton's mother. Amy Acton is the
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: gubernatorial candidate for Ohio Democrat. And her mother urged voters
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: not to cast their ballot for her daughter saying that
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: she in fact does not tell the truth. She says,
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: I love my daughter, but when I saw her lying
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: about her opponent, It's not easy for me to say this,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: but Amy has a serious problem. She can't tell the truth.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: She lies about her past. She says she grew up
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: living in a tent. None of that is true. And
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: she's lied her entire life, says her mom, Donna, Donna Arthur.
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  Speaker 4: She said, my daughter really needs help. And if she
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: can't help you, and she can't help you if she
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: needs help herself. People can change. But first they have
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: to tell the truth. And my daughter still isn't doing that.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Don't vote for people who lie. Don't let her become
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: your governor. If you think she'll make your life better,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: you're fooling yourself. It's only going to get worse. This
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: is the words from the mom about her daughter. And
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: she does it with humility. She says, this is hard
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: for me to say. The candidate, Acton, is a former
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Ohio Department of Health director. And she issued a statement
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: from her brother. The release containing the statement described the
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: woman as the sibling's estranged and abusive mother. And the
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: brother of the candidate said, it's not surprising that Vivek
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Ramaswamy has stooped to such a despicable low as to
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: attempt to turn the sexual abuse Amy endured at 12
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: years old from our mother's husband into a political talking point.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: After he was arrested, Amy and I were removed from custody,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: but our birth mother stayed married to him until he died.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: This desperate, disgusting attack reveals exactly who Vivek is at
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: his core, a pathetic excuse for a man who is
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: willing to hurt everyone as long as it gets him
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: what he wants. Friends, nobody made Amy Acton's mom say
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: any of that. And again, she says it's not easy
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: for her to say. She doesn't take that as a
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: sign of pride. She is saying, as a mom, I've
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: been disappointed with my daughter who has a hard time
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: telling the truth and look at what her brother's statement
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: doesn't say her, her brother's statement does not say that
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: what hurt, that what his mom said was untrue. He
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: blames the other candidate. And he says that the other
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: candidates being pathetic, that is his, his vitriol is entirely
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: aimed at the candidate and not at his mom. And
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: the Ramaswamy campaign didn't even respond to, um, the brother,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: or the media's request for a comment. This is an
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  Speaker 4: interesting thing, and I think it's got to be hard, friends.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: I was thinking when my pastor was talking about how
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: good things can sometimes become an idol, and I love
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  Speaker 4: my family. I really have just been so blessed by
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: the family that I have, and I would do anything
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: for them. But the thing that my pastor specifically pointed out,
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: he said, many times when a family's all on the
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: same page faith-wise, everything's fine. But when someone starts to
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: walk away, sometimes the kid tries to drag the parents
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: into the deceptions, into the culture, into the stuff that
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: they're kind of turning their back on it in their faith,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: et cetera. And he said, if you really love the person,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: you don't, you don't go along with that. I've had
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: to make some hard decisions about family relationships that don't
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: go in the direction that God wants them to go in.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: And I wouldn't say that I've gotten them all perfect
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: or even all right, necessarily, but I know where the
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: line is to draw. And I can't, I can't go and,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: against what God wants. And I can't let grandparents or
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: aunts or uncles or anybody else lead my kids there either.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: It may not be popular, but I'm going to say
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: good for Amy Acton's mother, Donna Arthur, because it's courageous
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: what she did. And I don't think she deserves to
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: be pilloried for it, especially by her son.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Kevin McCullough, huge hour. KT McFarlane joins me next.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back. It's Tuesday. You know I like
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: to have really smart people on the show, and they
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: don't get any smarter than KT McFarland, who's with us again. KT,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Fox News Digital is now identifying 101 organizations across nine countries,
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: including the U.S., that are coordinating, organizing, and amplifying protests
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: in Europe. and expanding the ecosystem up from 54 organizations
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: that they had identified just on Monday. Most of the
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: groups are adult-led, and this represents a nexus of what
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: they call the Red-Green Alliance. I'm curious your thoughts. You're well-traveled.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: You're probably as well-traveled as any person I know on
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: the planet. You watch these countries. You have negotiated with
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: them about things. What are you seeing? What's in front
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: of your eyes today?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: It's like a witch's brew. I think that they are
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: coordinated movements, even though the fingerprints are perhaps distant to
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the people involved in these movements. But the general purpose
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: of these movements or the coordination of these movements is
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: to have people doubt their ability to govern themselves. So
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: it's a loss of faith in democracy. And once you
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: lose that, then it becomes easy pickings or easier pickings
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: for somebody who would come in with a different plan, socialism, communism.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: But in each of the countries, the initial complaint is,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: seems to be different. In France, we don't have enough
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: money that's being spent on education. In Spain, we don't
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: have enough jobs. In Italy, other countries, oh, it's our
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: high fuel prices. The same in Germany, high fuel prices.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: In Britain, although Britain hasn't broken out violently yet, it
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: will be a number of those things, probably the National
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Health Service. It's basically the state isn't fixing our problems
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: and we're pissed off and we see only solution here
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: is to just go out and demonstrate and protest. But
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: it's also a witch's brew in the sense that it's
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: a generational struggle. The baby boom generation just spent and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: spent and spent and expanded the size of the state,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: particularly in the socialist countries in Europe. And they're now
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: to the breaking point. They borrowed too much money. They
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: can't pay the money back. They don't have the money
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: that they need to provide the social services that they've promised.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: So everybody's angry. And there's no easy fix because there's
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: no economic growth in these countries because at the same
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: time as they did all the spending, they also promoted these,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: you know, the massive Green New Deal movement. So basically
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: the Green New Deal movement is to de-industrialize, is to
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: take industrialization in your country and say, no, we don't
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: want to do that anymore. Because it's somehow going to
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: hurt the planet. So there's no economic growth. There are
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: burgeoning costs. And there's no fix. Now, added into the
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: witch's brew is also the untrammeled, unregulated open borders of migration.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: And it's migration of mostly young Muslim men who do
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: not want– they may go to Germany. They may go
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: to Sweden. But they don't want to be assimilated in
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: those environments in those countries. They want to have their
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: own government in those countries. They want to bring down
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: the government of those countries. So that's in the witch's brew.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: And then you've got the political, you know, who can
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: get elected to what. They're usually such narrow electoral margins
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: that that voting bloc now, this has become the Muslim
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: voting bloc, you can't ignore that. So that then there
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: becomes the political correctness part of it of, well, we
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: don't really want to go after those gang rapists in
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Britain anymore. Because we don't want to really alienate that
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: voting bloc. So it's all those things together and there's
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: no fix. I see no fix coming because they won't
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: have the political will to do it. They need to
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: have economic growth, which is complicated. They need to cut
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: back on their social programs, which they can't do quickly.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: And then they've got this massive percentage of their population dying.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: burgeoning as a percentage, from a small percentage to 10, 15, 20, 30%
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: of populations, especially in the city, that are not culturally
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: in sync with the countries that they've immigrated to.
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: Lack of assimilation, basically.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: There's no assimilation. They don't want assimilation. It was never
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: intended to assimilate. And I would put this on the
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: shoulders of Angela Merkel, the former chancellor of Germany, who
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: basically looked around and said, well, Europe is a dying population.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: We're not reproducing enough. People aren't having enough children. They're
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: not getting married. We need to have workers who can
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: come and do the work. So we are going to
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: open our borders. to people from initially Turkey, but other
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: parts of the Middle East, Syria, et cetera, and they're
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: going to come and do the work. Well, duh, they came,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: they didn't want to do the work, and now they
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: want to overthrow your countries. So that, I think, is
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: a whole witch's brew of the problems. America has a
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: different set of problems, and I think we have the solution,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: and I think we're well on the way to solving
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: those problems.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about that for a second, because I
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: think any keen observer would look at New York City–
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: would look at Dearborn, Michigan, would look at people like
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Mamdani and Abdul El-Sayed and say, it appears that we've
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: at least let the nose of the dog in the house,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: if we haven't let the whole thing in. How do
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: we not devolve into the same thing that you're watching
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: go on in Paris right now?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Well, a couple of reasons. One, the open borders of
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Barack Obama and Joe Biden, those open borders did get
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: some of the people that you're talking about, Dearborn, Michigan,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: et cetera, the people who don't want to assimilate into
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: the United States, into the American culture.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, half the state of Minnesota seems like it's
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: Somali now. I know it's not, but it seems like
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: But they're getting all the headlines. But the majority of
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: the illegal immigrants who came to the United States are
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: similar culturally than us. You know, they want to work.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: They believe in God. They believe in capitalists and they
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: just want to. It's an economic thing. Now, that's not
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: all of them, but let's say that's 75 percent of
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: the immigrants who came. But the other thing is that
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: thank God for President Trump because he looks at the U.S.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: economy and the world economy and he came to a
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: couple of really startling conclusions. Number one, every country needs
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: to sell their goods in the American market or they
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: can't survive because we're the only country that buys stuff.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: So what we're going to do is charge them for
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: that privilege. They're going to have to pay a tariff.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: We've never done that before. In fact, we've done the opposite.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: But so all of a sudden, we're charging tariffs. So
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: our goods, export goods, are competing with their import goods.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: That's number one. And number two, he looked at America
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: and he said, whoa, we have de-industrialized. We have sent
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: all those factory jobs from the Midwest into China. We
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: are going to reverse that. We are going to make
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: stuff in America again. And that's why every agreement that
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: he signs with a country, with a company, always has
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: a part where we promise to invest a trillion dollars
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: in the American economy. We promise to build factories in
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: In Iowa, name your state. And these are going to
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: be modern, state-of-the-art factories. It's not going to be old
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Rust Belt stuff. This is going to be new manufacturing jobs.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: A lot of it driven by artificial intelligence, but it's
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: going to create hundreds of thousands, millions of new jobs.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: So we're going to have economic growth. And then the
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: next thing is that energy dominance. That energy that the
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: United States has that, again, Barack Obama and Joe Biden
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: just wanted to crush it because they believed in deindustrialization.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: They believed that we shouldn't be making stuff. And they
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: were so worried about the Green New Deal stuff that
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: they didn't sort of put it all together to say
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: the United States can't afford this and that we are
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: going to slide into economic despondency. Meanwhile, China doesn't care
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: about the Green New Deal at all. and they're going
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: to produce far more pollutants to the world than America
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: ever could. So because Trump said, well, that's nuts, and
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: because Trump unleashed the American energy industry with fracking oil
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: and natural gas, we suddenly have more energy, oil and
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: natural gas, than any other country in the world. We
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: have way more than we need. We can export it.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: We can have that be a big business for us,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: very lucrative business. And what it also does is, is
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: so loosens our dependency on the middle east for sure
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: but it allows trump to control a lot of the
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: oil industry globally with the united states and now that
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: we have venezuela which is a huge unappreciated asset and
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: now we have greenland which may be potentially be a
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: huge source of raw materials and oil and natural gas
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: we now control 60 70 of the world's energy and
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: that's huge why Because it means we can make stuff
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: in America cheaper than anybody else can because our energy
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: costs are going to be so much less than anybody else's.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: And then finally, with what President Trump did about a
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: month ago where he invited all the AI tech executives
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: to the United States, to Washington, and said, okay, let's
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: work with you guys. Now, the tech people never wanted
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: to work with Washington. They thought it was somehow dirty,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: a dirty business working with government. But now they're embracing it.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: And because artificial intelligence, quantum computing, is going to be
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: the wave of the future, whoever gets there first, us
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: or China, we're ahead. China's trying to catch up. Everybody
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: else is a distant third. Whoever gets there first, not
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: only is that quantum computing is a quantum belief into
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: the future production, the whole way our society works. So
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: we've got to be first. Now, what do you need
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: to have quantum computing and technological superiority? Well, you need
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: the technology. We've got that. But you need cheap energy.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: China does not have that. We have that. So all
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: those things added together in a happy cocktail, not a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: witch's brew, but a happy cocktail, to me point to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: massive economic growth for the United States going ahead. Now,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: what does that do? It means that all the grousing
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: people who are saying this is so terrible, we don't
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: have this, we don't have that, which is sort of
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: seed corn. of these protest movements are happening in America,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: but they're not going to happen for long. And if
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: you look at American history, every time we've had economic dislocation,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: we've had these movements, communist, socialist, whatever you want to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: call them, but they disappear the minute we have economic growth.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: And because we're going to have economic growth and nobody
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: else is, I think we are very well equipped to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: handle the future.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 9: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: That's an amazingly positive outlook, KT. And I'm Really grateful
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: to hear it, actually, because I've been looking at all
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: this going, we feel like we're on the slippery slope
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: headed in some of this direction. But you've pointed out
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: many good points, and I'm always grateful.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I'm afraid that was a little bit
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: of a machine gun run.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: No, but it was.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I'm very confident about that.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go back and re-listen to the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: podcast because I need to use these talking points with friends. KT,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: always appreciate it. Thanks for being with us.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: It's a pleasure. Thank you.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: Kevin McCullough coming right back. Don't go away.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: Stick around for more of That Kevin next.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: Here he is from New York.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: That Kevin. Kevin McCullough.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: Welcome back. Kevin McCullough. The phone number I want you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: to memorize is 888-342-1010.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: 888-342-1010.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: You may have heard me give that phone number a
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: time or two because over the last 10 years, we've
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: used that phone number as kind of a secret code
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: to help slaves be liberated, to help captives be set
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: free with a group called Christian Solidarity International. And because
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: of our efforts, you just have to know there's like
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: 3,800 women and children that have been set free and
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: slaves that have been liberated over the last 10 years
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: or so, according to the records at Christian Solidarity International.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Just those of you that have done it with us,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: that's how many human lives we've actually set free. And
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: that encourages me, friends. And the reason I love doing
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: it right now is because what could be a better
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: Christmas present for the end of the year than to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: tell a woman who has lived her entire life in
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: abject slavery that you're going to have freedom? Todd Chapman
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: is back with us from Christian Solidarity International. And Todd,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: I think it's hard for us to relate because I've
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: never really suffered anything like that. Like, I don't have
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: the first clue how desperate, how painful, how awful these
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: slaves have been treated. Because I've never, my worst experiences
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: on planet Earth, you know, all of them my entire
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: life added up probably wouldn't match like one hour of
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: what they experienced in slavery. And they've done it. for
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: dozens of years in some cases. But to know that
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: as dark as that is, that our gift can bring
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: them into a place that is full of hope and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: light and joy and wonder this Christmas season, that gets
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: me pretty excited.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it is pretty awesome. I think it's hard for
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 9: us in general here in America to wrap our minds around.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 9: I mean, we kind of get it intellectually, but I mean,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 9: on a very visceral, emotional level, to wrap our minds
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 9: around the fact that today in 2026, there are actually
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 9: more slaves on planet Earth, more people enslaved than at
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 9: any other time in human history. Like for us, because
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: we're so sheltered and we don't really see that, you know,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: you know, I think if you really think about that
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 9: for a second, it's pretty staggering. And I don't know,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: for me as a follower of Christ, it really does.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: I'm very convicted as I believe we all should be.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 9: You know, far be it for me to impose my
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 9: worldview on you. But I think, you know, if we
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: if we do look at the word of God and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: we recognize that, man, God came. Jesus said it. I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: have come to set captives free, to declare freedom for
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: the prisoners. And we are called to do that. So
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: from a ministry standpoint. Man, we are in the optimal
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: time to make a huge difference globally and individually just
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 9: by setting captives free. But I get it. It's overwhelming.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 9: It's like, well, I wouldn't know where to begin. That's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 9: why what we're inviting you to do through CSI is
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 9: so powerful because we're telling you exactly what you can do,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 9: who it's going to free, and how much it costs.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: And it's not that much money, $ 250. And you will
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: set a person like a juke. I'm looking at her
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 9: story here. She was three years old when armed men
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: stormed into her village. They dragged she and her mom
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: north into slavery. She said she, I still remember, she
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: still remembers that her grandmother was there at the time.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: And she's like desperately trying to cling to them as
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 9: the men are dragging them away. You can just see
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: it in your mind, right? This horrific picture of violence
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: and separation. But the abductors beat her grandmother to the ground,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 9: left her to die because she was too old to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 9: be useful is what they said.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 9: So now in the north, they tore a juke away
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 9: from her mom. She never saw her mom again. So
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 9: now this young girl, three years of age, she's lost
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 9: her grandmother, beaten right before her eyes. She's taken to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: a strange place with her mom, but then they take
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: her mom away from her. And then it's just game
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: on from there, from early childhood all the way into adulthood.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: She was forced to work from sunrise to late into
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: the night, hauling water, grinding grain, tending animals, tough physical work.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 9: And if she slowed down, she was beaten with sticks
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: or with fists. And then as she got older, it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: gets even worse. If you can imagine that her master
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 9: began raping her, she became pregnant twice. And when she
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 9: finally fled, she had to make an unbearable choice to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: leave one of her children behind in the hands of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 9: her abuser. Thankfully, one of our slave retrievers found her
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: in a market, followed her home, negotiated her rescue with
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 9: that cow vaccine, but was not able to get both
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 9: of her children out. So a juke, as you can imagine,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 9: even though she's safe today, She is just praying that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 9: somehow God will deliver her remaining child, you know, and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 9: reunite them. That's just one story, Kevin, in amongst thousands.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 9: I mean, we have liberated over the past decades through CSI,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 9: people like you have liberated about 150,000 people that were
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 9: trapped in that situation. And I guarantee you, unless you've
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 9: listened to this program for a while, you never even
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 9: knew this was a thing. Most people don't know that
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 9: this ever happened, but it's one of the biggest slave
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 9: situations in human history in the last 50 to 100 years.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: And most people don't know about it. But now you do.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 9: And now you know how you can help.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: It's really remarkable. And friends, one of the things that
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: as Todd was telling a juke story and I've heard
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: her story several times and it always kind of gets
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: to me. Because, again, who of us in America have
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: gone through anything like that? I mean, it is really
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: just disheartening. The idea of having a friend or friendships.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: You know, Todd, we take those things for granted.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: Oh, we do.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: And we throw friends away faster than we sometimes throw
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: fast food wrappers away. Like, oh, they're my friend. But
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: these are women that form bonds over shared experiences and sufferings.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: But now they get to live in the joy of Jesus.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: And friend, your gift makes that happen. It is the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: light switch that turns their life from a dark room
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: into a bright light. And you get to be part
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: 888-342-1010.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: $ 250 rescues one slave. We have a list of 232
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: names that we are aiming to liberate by Christmas. But
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: we need your help right now. And if you can
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: do a large gift, $ 2, 500, you're going to help set
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: 10 women free today. 888-342-1010 888-342-1010 Please call right now.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: Here he is from New York, that Kevin.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Kevin.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: McCullough.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: Welcome back to Times Square. Kevin McCullough, glad to have
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: you with us. It's that Kevin show from New York
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: to San Diego, Anchorage to Miami Beach. We're glad you're
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: with us. 400 stations nationwide. Thank you for making us
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: your choice. Simon Hankinson is with the Heritage Foundation. I've
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: seen him all over media this week because he kind
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: of specializes in all the stuff that's making the headlines. Simon,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: it's good to see you. Thank you for being here.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Good morning. I have been making this observation and very
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: few people have been willing to engage me on this,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: but no one's given me an answer to it either.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: So I want to know. I'm seeing these protests take
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: place and I'm seeing the founding reasons. It's disturbance about
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: education or social services or all these other things. And
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: then somehow it's like a bait and switch. You see
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Palestinian flags and death to the West being chanted and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: all kinds of other things coming out. What's the connective
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: tissue here?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: So I'll back up a bit.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: Just imagine you're preparing for a big July 4th party
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 8: and you've got your house stacked with some wood for
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: the barbecue, some charcoal, some lighter, some firecrackers, a box
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: of hand grenades, you know, whatever it is that you
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 8: want to do on July 4th. And then someone throws
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: a match through your front door and the house goes up.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: What was it that caught fire? France has underlying structural problems.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 8: And those are that they haven't bounced a budget in
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: 50 years. They have 120% debt to GDP. They can't
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 8: print money the way we can. We have the same problems,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: but they're not as acute. And they have a bloated
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: welfare bill where if you're a railway worker, for example,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: you can retire at my age in my late 50s,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 8: never work again and live off a pension. So the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: math doesn't add up. And each time you get a
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: government that dares to try to tweak it a little
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: bit by, say, raising their retirement age a year or
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: making it a little easier for students to get jobs
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: instead of live on unemployment, People go out in the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: streets and burn stuff. I saw this when I was
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: council general in Marseille at least three or four times. Now,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: you add to that an election in April and a
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: far-left party. It's called La France Insoumise, France Unbowed is
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: how they say it in English, and a lot of
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: very organized militant labor organizations, unions, and leftist, basically anti-Western
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: organizations who are well-funded. And on top of that, you
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 8: add a large cohort of jobless, just feckless, unassimilated second
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: and third generation immigrants who are just mad and want
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 8: something to break. And you have this toxic combination, which
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: is blown up in the streets. So legitimate issues, yes,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: mixed up with what they call gas cell breakers, vandals, looters.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: That sounds like a terrible place to be. How do
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: they begin to recover from that? What can you fiscally do?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: What can you, from a law enforcement perspective, do to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: bring about some sort of order out of that chaos?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: Well, France does have a very centralized and well-trained national police.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: They don't have state and local police like we do.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: They've got a national police service, and they have gendarmes
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: who are basically the police but in between cities, in
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 8: the villages and the smaller towns. I think there's like
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: 130,000 gendarmes. I don't know, the National Police probably around there.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: And then they've also got specialist anti-riot units. And then
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: they have a military, which, of course, you know, the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: French Foreign Legion and then all the regular units. It's
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: one of the bigger militaries in Europe. So they do
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: have technically the means to put down riots. The problem
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: is when all of the riots happen at the same
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 8: time all across France, they're outnumbered. And so I think
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: at this point it's a matter of will and also means.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: But the state, again, or I haven't said this yet,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: but the state is criticized by the far left. Just
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: like here, when there's a massive riot and things are
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: getting looted and it's mostly peaceful, you know, flames everywhere,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: the police hit the wrong guy on the head with
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: a truncheon and all of a sudden it's all about
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: police violence. So the left throws a hand grenade and
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 8: then it blows up and then they blame the police
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: for knocking someone over on the way to putting the.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: Fire out or whatever.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: That's, you know, the problem right now is too much,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: too fast.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: That's best practice. kind of illustrated by Ilan Omar and
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: what she's going through. Give me an update from your
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: perspective on her situation.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she's very much representative of what happens when you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 8: bring a clan and tribal culture intact from the third
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: world to the first. You know, we've had an incredible
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: success story in the United States of assimilating people because
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: we break up those ancient grudges and feuds and networks
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: in a good way. We keep the food and the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: religion and the culture, whatever it is that makes people
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 8: strong communities, but we get rid of the beefs and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: the political angst. But in Minnesota, you've seen what happens
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: when you bring a large number of people from one country, Somalia,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: that is dysfunctional, where it's highly corrupt. You don't rely
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: on the government. People, if they have an opportunity to
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: take from the state, will do so without a moment's notice.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: High corruption, low trust, high fraud. And unfortunately, the block
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: vote of those communities is able to elect members of
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: Congress and even senators. We've seen in New York State
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: and New York City how there are members of Congress
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: being elected. I think one in Minnesota likely to be
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 8: elected from the Democratic Socialists of America using these ethnic
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: block votes. So it's happening here just a little bit
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: more diffused and a little bit slower than in France.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about Ilan Omar's sister. There's a rumor out
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  Speaker 4: today that the feds were talking to her sister at
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  Speaker 4: length after the raid went down. What do you make
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  Speaker 4: of that?
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  Speaker 8: I also heard, and again, this is unsubstantiated, that they
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  Speaker 8: had obtained her cell phone. And from that, we're able
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  Speaker 8: to pick up a bunch of messages that are probably
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  Speaker 8: not flattering to whatever story they're going to try to
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  Speaker 8: stick with.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Fox is the one reporting that the sister was
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  Speaker 4: spoken to by the feds. And I have seen those
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  Speaker 4: same reports about the congresswoman's cell phone and her laptop
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  Speaker 4: and other things.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I've done thousands of immigrant visa cases.
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  Speaker 8: And I can tell you that in high fraud countries
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  Speaker 8: like Somalia, you don't have any reliable documents. I mean, literally,
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  Speaker 8: there won't be birth certificates. There won't be marriage certificates.
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  Speaker 8: They'll say, well, I was born in a village. Here
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  Speaker 8: are some elders who will testify to when I was born.
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  Speaker 8: It's usually January 1st. And then when they get married,
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  Speaker 8: they'll say we had a traditional ceremony. And here are
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  Speaker 8: the elders that will sign an affidavit, literally sometimes with
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  Speaker 8: their thumbs, because they are illiterate. So how do they
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  Speaker 8: know what they're signing? Somebody reads it to them. So
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  Speaker 8: you have a mountain, a house of cards built on
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  Speaker 8: what's possibly bogus information, including family relationships. When you want
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  Speaker 8: to get out of a refugee camp like they did,
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  Speaker 8: probably the Dabab camp in Kenya, You have to say,
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  Speaker 8: this is my son, this is my daughter, because otherwise
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  Speaker 8: they don't qualify for the refugee status. What if there
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  Speaker 8: was a lie at the very beginning? What if Ilhan
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  Speaker 8: Omar's father isn't her father and her sister isn't her sister?
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  Speaker 8: Maybe her brother is her brother, but maybe he's a
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  Speaker 8: complete stranger. So I think when you pull up that thread,
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  Speaker 8: you're going to find massive fraud at the root of
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  Speaker 8: that immigration case.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, we're going to have to see what happens there,
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  Speaker 4: because there's a lot of people that say if it
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  Speaker 4: is fraudulent, that's a case for deportation. And I don't
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  Speaker 4: think we've ever deported a sitting congressperson before. Anyway, we'll
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  Speaker 4: see more on that. Simon Hankinson, thank you for all
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  Speaker 4: your insights. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Supporters of the New Orleans Saints are marching into France.
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  Speaker 4: And the wave began early Tuesday when an Air France
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  Speaker 4: have not necessarily said that either. It's not that mass
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  Speaker 4: numbers of civilians are dying or anything like that, but
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  Speaker 4: this coming weekend. It's the first time I think they've
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