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Paint to Sample · That Car Show

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  Drop the vape pen, get yourself some gold paint.
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  This week on that car show, it seems to be all about Ryan and
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  the cars he's driven. But I promise you, it definitely
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  isn't. He talked about one particular
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  car. What was the phrase you use,
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  Ryan? Or Lindsey Sublime.
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  It was sublime which car he called sublime.
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  He also talked about driving a Diablo car that dreams are made
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  of. We talked about the comparisons
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  to the Jamaric Way video. Apparently not sublime though,
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  sorry. Not sublime.
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  That wasn't sublime. We also gave the team a
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  challenge and it's all about what was peak Porsche.
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  If you get back in time, what year would you go to?
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  So listen to our answers on that.
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  We talk a little bit about how the journalist world, the
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  automotive journalist world feels like they've been done
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  wrong by the fact that GM are doing away with Apple CarPlay.
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  Is it such a big deal? I don't know NX is coming back.
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  We talked a little bit about that and then finally plans for
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  SEMA Land Rover shows and driving more exotics.
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  car show sent you. Welcome to this week's episode
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  of that car show, and it's another crew show.
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  Hey, gang, how you doing? Hey, hey.
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  Great. How are you?
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  Good, good. I'm going to apologize to our
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  audience straight away because I feel like we're going to be
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  living vicariously through Ryan for this episode.
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  He's been up to all sorts of great staff and I feel very
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  jealous. But yeah, before we do that, I
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  wanted to talk about the new Subaru concepts that have just
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  come out. So it's the Japanese Audio show
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  this week and they released a couple of concepts, but in
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  particular, have you guys seen the STIB?
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  Yes, and it looked a bit familiar.
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  It looked very familiar. The first thing is they they've
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  done it wrong. They've done the launch wrong.
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  So it looks like they've chosen World Rally Blue as the color,
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  OK. And we all know that with World
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  Rally Blue, you have to have gold wheels.
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  True. The the other thing if you look
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  at. The back of it, no gold wheels.
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  No gold mill. It's it's a a miss Subaru.
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  Come on, have you learned nothing over the last 25 years
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  of having the STIWRX and all that sort of good stuff?
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  There'll be a lot of vape smoke inhaled in anger today.
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  That's right. That's right.
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  Well, that's the opposite of like what do they say?
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  Simplify your life by making decisions once.
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  Like that decision was made a long time ago and we all support
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  it. Like why are we mixing it up?
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  It's a no brainer. It's no brainer.
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  The car actually looks I, I don't know about you guys, but I
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  look especially from the back, it looks like the Honda Civic
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  Type R took a GR Corolla out on a date after they'd met on
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  Tinder. They went to a cheap hotel, put
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  on some Barry White, and the love child was the B concept STI
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  because like, I can see bits of both cars.
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  Yeah. Right.
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  Very distinctly. Yeah.
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  Particularly from the back, yeah.
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  Yeah, it's interesting. It does say, I think on one of
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  the stickers it does say it's going to be a boxer engine.
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  Oh. So I did wonder whether they
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  were going to share engines with other manufacturers that they
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  may have shares in. Interesting.
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  Well, and they, it's a concept. So at this point, it's pie in
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  the sky. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's very. Good.
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  I mean it Really. I mean it.
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  It it's a good looking thing. It looks, you know, futuristic
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  it. Yeah, absolutely.
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  The seats are amazing. Yeah, yeah.
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  But I and it was a, it's a manual, which is great.
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  That's always good. I mean, they're sticking with
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  it. Got to appreciate that, right?
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  They are saying that it's very close to production in terms of
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  the actual product. So let's keep our fingers
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  crossed, Let's hope they get some gold paint in the factory
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  and. We, you know Dan, they say it's
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  the metallics are the best ones to huff.
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  Just saying. What does that mean?
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  I don't know. It sounded really good.
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  I I grew up watching cops, and it was always a metallic paint,
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  right? That yeah, you know, covering
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  the faces. Yeah, you got those.
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  Amazing. Well, this was before social
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  media, but talk about a picture that would have been made for an
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  image that would have been made for social media.
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  Just the metallic. Did you see those?
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  There's your ad. There's your ad right there.
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  Yeah. Go drop the vape pen, get
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  yourself some gold paint. Go for a drive, but I think for
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  me that's a yes, Make it and people will buy it A. 100
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  percent, 100%. I guess the nearest thing that
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  we have to that in real life right now is the GR Corolla.
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  We've talked about that quite a few episodes, but Ryan seeing is
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  believing, and you've finally been able to get behind the
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  wheel. Is that right?
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  It's over there somewhere. Yeah, You know, thank you,
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  Toyota. I, I think I'm the, the last car
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  car journalist in the country to drive the thing, but I wanted to
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  drive the 25 before the 26 came out.
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  And you know, I'd heard such wonderful things.
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  But the other thing is everyone I know that bought 1 sold it
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  within a year or two. With the exception, guilty,
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  yeah. Yeah, but you're one of a
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  handful of friends who did that exact same thing.
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  And and so I figured, well, there must this must be flawed
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  in some way. It must not be this perfect
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  thing. You know, I had read about, but,
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  and I gotta say so I took delivery of this thing.
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  You know, I guess it was Monday and you know, the Toyota people
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  rolled up and this one's in this beautiful dark Gray, which we
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  probably be the color I would go for.
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  It's a good looking thing. You know, it's got the the boxed
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  fenders. It's it's, it looks good.
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  It looks, you know, looks the part.
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  And I drove it around a bit for the first day or two and just
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  really wasn't blown away. It's a pokey thing around town,
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  right? It's a single turbo, right?
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  And like any single turbo, it can be a little on off around
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  the city and didn't think a whole lot about it.
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  Rides a little flinty, you know, and then I took it to the
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  canyons and it's just, it's sublime.
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  It's you know, so it's all-wheel drive.
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  It's this single turbo, it's a manual.
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  It's 300 horsepower, 295 LB feet of torque.
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  You know, most of you listening know all this, but there's
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  something about that recipe that just comes together so well.
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  It's light on its feet. It's just, you know, when you're
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  in the canons, you stay in that power band.
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  You're always up above 4000 or whatever.
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  It, the handling is amazing. It's it it corners flat, you
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  know, it's it's a little sloppy compared to like a Porsche GT
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  car, right? There's a little fat on the
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  bone, but for 55 grand or whatever this the sticker is on
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  this thing. I mean, if if I were looking for
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  A1 car solution where I needed something my, my, you know, my
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  13 year old could, you know, right in the back, we could take
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  on a family trip. You know, the seats are great.
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  Toyota has completely revamped their seats now Toyota seats are
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  great. They used to sort of bend you
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  into this, you know, C position and terribly uncomfortable.
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  Could never buy a Toyota. Now the the seats across, you
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  know, the line are great, but this thing, this would be my
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  single car solution because I can take this to the canyons and
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  and have that feeling of satisfaction, right.
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  It isn't my GT4 right. It's not going to hit the same
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  limits. You're not going to be carrying
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  the same speed, but it's damn good for what it is.
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  And I'm so glad that I'm, you know, I got the chance to drive
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  it like it should be driven and and I will be back because I
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  really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it, you know,
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  I, I boy, I, I pulled on some, some cars with a lot more
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  horsepower in the canyons. It was just, you know, so much
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  so that they came up and said, wow, that car can hustle and
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  right, I'm, I'm sold. I'm, I'm, you know.
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  High price, yeah, High price. What did you so you, you owned
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  one for a year or so, right? Yeah, yeah.
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  I mean it's. Similar.
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  For for 50 grand brand new you, I don't think you can get a
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  better car. I think we talked about it on
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  previous podcasts. The Civic Type R is technically
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  a better car, but it's not as much fun.
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  Yeah, yeah. And this car is fun.
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  That car can be fast, as we know, and not be fun.
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  And this car is fast enough and it is fun.
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  And it's just, I mean, I was laughing.
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  I mean, it was it, it brought me joy, right?
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  It's, I want to say that house cleaning woman, right?
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  I mean, this thing brought me joy.
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  I'm not going to throw it out. It's Yeah.
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  And I'm going to use it every day.
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  You know, it's, it's good. It's very good.
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  You have Marie Kondoed your garage, your ideal garage, and
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  that would be part of it or that would be it.
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  Yeah, it'd be amazing. Third car for me.
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  Honestly, I don't know if I could.
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  Well, I love that it's the option like that.
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  It would give you the option. Like you said, there's not a lot
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  of cars that could be A1 car solution.
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  Yeah. And you know, and I'll be
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  honest, I was not expecting the word sublime to be used to.
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  Just neither was I. This is not the car I thought it
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  was going to be. So what did you think leading up
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  right? What was your You looked at the
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  car, What did you think? Yeah, yeah.
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  I don't love the way it looks. I think I probably prefer the
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  looks of the Type R, to be honest.
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  I'm probably, I've owned a Honda.
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  I've never owned a Toyota. I think that Honda still
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  probably has a better, you know, shift linkage and clutch feel
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  and all that. One of the things I struggle a
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  little bit with this car that does sort of fit into the the
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  profile or the kind of car I thought it would be is that's a
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  little, it's a little, like I said, a little tough to drive
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  around town, right. With the clutch, you know, you
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  get that sort of that Chuck, Chuck, Chuck sometimes if you're
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  not just on it and in just the path of the clutch and all that
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  sometimes makes it a little difficult if you're not on it to
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  sort of get to get that arc. But I thought it was very much
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  going to be an on off car, sort of a really feel like a tuner
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  car, right? And thought it might not be the
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  complete package. And I thought it would maybe
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  feel a little heavy. Well, we all we've all driven,
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  you know, career twos versus career fours or career 2.
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  I mean, DD that's what is that 964?
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  But but a career S, say versus a 4S or something, right?
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  And you feel that weight in the front end and it's a different
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  kind of car. Obviously there's not a there's
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  not a rear wheel drive version of this car, but it it didn't
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  carry that weight in the same weight was very balanced.
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  I played around a little bit with the with the track setting
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  and all that. Honestly, I think I prefer
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  driving with a 5050 split. Maybe that's just how I started
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  pushing it. But and I was on it.
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  I mean, I was, I was on it and it was good And and like I said,
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  much more a much more finished car I think than what I was
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  expecting Dan and. Yeah, Lindsay, would you, would
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  you ever consider one? I would love to drive one first.
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  I feel like have to make an informed decision, obviously.
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  And, you know, I'll never turn down the chance to drive
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  something new. But I love the idea that it has
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  a functional backseat because I could take my whole family and
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  it sounds like even the dogs. So, you know, that's a big
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  selling point for me. Like I've said before, that's
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  one of the things that I really love about the X3 is like with
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  it being a manual, in a lot of ways it's the best of both
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  worlds because it's still an engaging driving experience.
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  But I know I can take everybody in it.
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  So yeah, I would definitely consider it.
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  What about the noises, Ryan? The did you, the first time you
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  heard it, do the dump valve thing?
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  Yes yes, I think I texted you right away.
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  You did this is so cool. I almost wish it were a little
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  louder, right? That said, I had to turn the car
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  off in car line at my daughter's school because it was it was a
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  little I was a little boy racer, right?
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  You know, most of. Your request or her request?
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  She didn't want me to pick her up in the car.
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  I did not get that request. She's she's cool with a Porsche,
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  but you know, but I think you know the other kids know what
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  that is right. I think this doesn't seem as
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  special, right. No one really bad to deny, but I
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  do love the way it sounds. I wish the red line was a little
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  higher. I wish there was a little more
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  sound in the cabin. I do love the blow off valve
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  sounds. I mean, that's you know, it's,
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  it's that's, that's a good, that's good stuff.
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  I mean, and I know I now know why, you know, these kids in
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  town and they're whatever WRX is that are tuned or these guys in
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  their diesel pickup trucks or are making these sounds
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  constantly because it's fun. But I think that if it were
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  mine, this is a car that I think I probably would tune a little
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  bit. You know, our buddy Johnny
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  Lieberman has tuned his car to high heaven.
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  He's done all sort of sorts of iterations, right, with, you
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  know, conjunction with with aftermarket, you know, outfits
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  and stuff. This does as good as it is, it
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  does seem like a blank slate, probably unlike any other car
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  I've ever driven, right? It seems like it's probably
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  capable even of so much more as wonderful.
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  This is as wonderful as it is in the canyons.
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  It could use a little more smoothness, a little more grunt
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  down low around town. It is kind of a clunky thing to
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  drive like in stop and go traffic, right.
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  That said, it's good enough where I you know, if I needed A1
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  car solution, I could handle that and I would still have a
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  lot of fun and and the weekends and in Colorado, it's all-wheel
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  drive. Get yourself some snow tires.
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  Done and done. This is your car.
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  They're supposed to be amazing in car parks in the snow,
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  obviously with snow tires, not with just summer tires.
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  Is it snow in Seattle? Yeah, it does.
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  It does occasionally and. When it does, you really need it
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  high. Price from Ryan, yeah.
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  Can I ask why you sold your car? And I know that it's not just
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  the car. There are other factors.
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  You made a move from Seattle. Do we have to keep talking about
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  the fact I sold mine? Come on.
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  This What if we promised this is the last time because I had the
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  same question. OK.
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  Oh, well, it was logistics, like I was moving down to states.
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  Yeah, yeah, I had truck full of stuff to take down.
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  I had the Audi, you know, I was going to be moving to LA, which
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  is, it's probably not a great car for Lai mean, I know it's
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  not right. That's the traffic that you get
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  in LA. It would be a great weekend car
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  in LA. Yeah.
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  So yeah, I, I, it's, it's probably the one car I've owned
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  I still think about quite regularly.
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  And it, it was for me, it used to give me a little adrenaline
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  rush sometimes. Just an injection adrenaline.
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  It was, yeah. You drive it like an asshole,
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  like, I mean, you just do, right?
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  I mean it it, it, it goes you on to push it and.
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  To. Make noises and into, you know,
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  digging deep and, you know, around the corners and city
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  streets and all this. I mean, it's just it, it really
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  pushes you to, I don't know, to, to push it.
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  You know, do we now have descriptions per car?
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  Right, So last week it was. If you're driving the Mustang
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  GT, you're a Dick head. If you're driving the Corolla,
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  you're an asshole. You know what are you in the
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  Porsche GT? Four.
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  That's. I think we're developing a new
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  scale and it's going to be an organic development.
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  We'll just it'll be a living document, as they say.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll see what happens.
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  It's a great car, guys. I, I really, I, I would
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  encourage anyone to go drive one, but, but make sure you, you
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  take it out of the city, right? If you take it on a test drive,
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  go and take it on a back Rd. You know, if you live somewhere
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  where your commute is on some twisty roads, this is your car,
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  right? This is not a stop and go
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  traffic car because it's get it's a little frustrating, you
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  know? Yeah, brakes are amazing.
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  Yeah, brakes are fantastic. And you slotted rotors from the
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  factory or that's kind of cool, right?
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  How many miles did it have on it?
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  Because the other thing for you right is the brakes were
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  amazing, but it was a press car. Yes, yes, yeah.
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  It had about 5900 miles when I got it.
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  I've got about 6100 sixty 100 on it now in that first the first
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  corner on the first Canyon when I laid into the brakes, I and I
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  felt that shoved back. I was really impressed.
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  You know, you both know this. You both have, you know,
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  variations of the car. I do the Porsche where the the
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  brakes are wonderful, but that you got to get into them right.
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  And this car was a little more on off and you know, I don't
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  know what's better, but it was different and gave me all the
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  confidence in the world. Just it's it's it's a neat
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  thing. I I just every kid in a tuned
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  WRX, you know, gives you a nod, you know, I get.
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  Kids respect you got. Kids respect, you know I need
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  more. Hey, that is worth its weight in
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  gold. And then you can throw out the
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  hello fellow kids. Yeah, then they see the the
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  white beard, right? But just in closing, a wonderful
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  car, worth every penny, a wonderful, you know, only car
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  solution for, for just about anyone unless you are really in
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  stop and go traffic somewhere. Yeah, this is, this is hard to
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  be. What else would you spend your
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  $55,000 on? Right, on a new car.
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  Yeah. Well, and Dan, I mean to Ryan's
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  point, like you took yours on several Rd. trips, right?
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  Yeah. And it were comfortable and you
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  had fun and. Yeah, I I drove the the Civic
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  Type R, which I think is really the only, I don't think I love
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  Subaru, but I don't think the WRXTR is a competitor to it
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  because I don't think it has enough horsepower.
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  That's it, That's it. So I think it's the Civic Type R
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  and you're going front wheel drive or the GR Corolla and
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  you're going all-wheel drive. But yeah, it was.
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  It's serious versus fun, and I always went for fun.
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  Well, this is, I think, the one case where the all-wheel drive
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  might be the more fun car, right?
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  Yeah. So, yeah, you don't do that very
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  often. Well, and I think has there been
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  like Ryan, you mentioned, you know, it was, it was encouraging
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  you to sort of take like even neighborhood roads safely, of
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  course, but like take corners, you know, more spiritedly than
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  you might in another car. Has there been another sort of
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  sleeper car or a car that you guys weren't expecting to feel
• 17:54
  that way and that you caught like in the moment you were
• 17:57
  like, oh, I want to kind of be a little more spirited, like has
• 18:00
  there been another car that has made you feel that way?
• 18:02
  I think the only car that it can kind of draw a parallel to is
• 18:05
  the AMG, the CLA, is it the 53 or the 55?
• 18:11
  It's whatever the the top CLA and the CLA is a car that in
• 18:15
  lower trims isn't too impressive.
• 18:17
  And I wasn't, I didn't have high hopes, but I enjoy driving that
• 18:20
  more than the larger AMG's short of like the GT, right?
• 18:25
  That was another car that made me feel like a like a like and
• 18:28
  also, yeah, Hoon, you know? I think we have another.
• 18:31
  We have another notch on the scale.
• 18:34
  Guys, to be in a car, sorry, there's the last thing I'll say,
• 18:36
  but this car has got me kind of kind of excited.
• 18:38
  It's a it's a neat car. You know, not all cars you drive
• 18:42
  or get to driver like this, right?
• 18:44
  This car really has made an impression on me.
• 18:46
  And the fact that you can actually shift our Porsches, you
• 18:49
  know, you can take, what, first gear to 58 miles an hour or
• 18:52
  something. This is a car in town.
• 18:53
  I'm not just in 1st and 2nd gear all the time.
• 18:55
  And that's kind of fun too. Yeah.
• 18:57
  That is nice. Very good.
• 18:58
  Well, we talked last week about that coffee shop I discovered
• 19:02
  down in Malibu. Yeah, I'm gutted because I
• 19:04
  didn't go this week and. Go down.
• 19:07
  There, there was a zinger. It's just parked outside the
• 19:12
  coffee shop and also a Tuttle. 911 K Really.
• 19:15
  Yeah. So you talk about LA cars and
• 19:19
  you know, special cars. Like you don't see those
• 19:21
  anywhere, let alone a coffee. Shop.
• 19:23
  Yeah, yeah, huh. Yeah, that's a that's A2 car
• 19:27
  solution. It is indeed.
• 19:30
  So anyway, I need to get back there.
• 19:31
  I got to. I'm heading to Sema this week,
• 19:33
  but I need to get back to that coffee shop and see what else is
• 19:36
  going to be there. I saw the pictures over from the
• 19:40
  weekend and I thought, oh I really hope Dan was there
• 19:43
  because I want to hear what it was.
• 19:44
  Like, yeah, I wasn't, but it was interesting because also I saw
• 19:47
  that Larry Chen has just recently driven A Zinger.
• 19:50
  I saw that too, Larry. Could be, could have been,
• 19:53
  because it was the same one. Yeah, OK, yeah.
• 19:57
  Or another automotive journalist.
• 19:59
  So yeah. Yeah, he was posting some zinger
• 20:02
  content too, if I'm right that mistaken, So.
• 20:05
  We will have to investigate without making this all about
• 20:09
  Ryan. You went from one extreme to
• 20:12
  another because you went from a modern day, I guess hot hatch to
• 20:16
  an old school a Lamborghini. How was that?
• 20:21
  So I just submitted the article to Autoblog tonight.
• 20:24
  So hopefully by the time you are hearing this, the show the the
• 20:27
  article will be, we'll have posted as well.
• 20:31
  So this is a 1991 Diablo. So the second year I think it
• 20:34
  was of the Diablo. And for those in the know,
• 20:37
  apparently this is the one you want because it's early, you
• 20:39
  know later they you know, have more power all-wheel drive and
• 20:42
  all this. But but this is an early car.
• 20:44
  No electronic nannies. You know it's got those big 335
• 20:48
  series tires in the back, you know that look like rolling
• 20:50
  barrels. It is a so I don't want to give
• 20:54
  away too much of the article, but I likened it to what I call
• 20:57
  it a cigarette boat, right? All fiberglass and horsepower.
• 21:00
  And it really is that, you know, build quality isn't, you know,
• 21:04
  wasn't what it is now at Lamborghini, right?
• 21:08
  You know, we were driving in the analog clock in the dash decided
• 21:13
  to fly out upon acceleration. You know, I mean it's, it's it's
• 21:19
  little things like that that, but if you if you look past that
• 21:23
  stuff, it is a hell of a thing because as much as I love the
• 21:28
  Corolla GR, there is no power down low right to get in a car
• 21:32
  where all the power is down low right and then it just goes and
• 21:36
  goes and goes right up to red line.
• 21:38
  It's it's a great feeling. It's it's what all cars kind of
• 21:41
  used to feel like right in a way, obviously not like a
• 21:43
  Diablo, but all cars you used to have AV6 or AV8 and you know,
• 21:47
  and they would which is so much more tractable around town now.
• 21:50
  Now this car I barely fit in. Actually, I fit OK, I'll take
• 21:53
  that back. I fit in OK, I have plenty of
• 21:55
  headroom had the seat all the way back.
• 21:58
  You sit in and I don't know if you've driven a Diablo, either
• 22:02
  of you, but. Not yet.
• 22:04
  The the shoulder belt and the lap belt are are two different
• 22:07
  pieces. And so the shoulder belt you
• 22:10
  attach up by your shoulder and then the lap belt is like a
• 22:14
  standard lap belt, but you bring it from the center to the
• 22:16
  outside. And then you're presented with
• 22:18
  not one, but two receivers. And I don't know why there are
• 22:22
  two places to plug this lap belt and I have no idea because
• 22:25
  they're about two inches from one another.
• 22:27
  So I don't know if you know, it's like, you know, you let a
• 22:29
  little out at the waist, you know, after, you know,
• 22:31
  Thanksgiving or you know what that option is there for.
• 22:34
  That was odd. And the car is just filled with
• 22:36
  little peculiarities like that, right?
• 22:38
  Like why in the hell did they do it this way?
• 22:40
  Right where it could have, you know, one of you mentioned the
• 22:43
  simpler solution, right? Like, why are we complicating
• 22:46
  this? But that said, you know, you get
• 22:49
  in you, you turn the key, it's a dog leg first, which you know,
• 22:52
  you've got to sort of be paying attention to, but it roars to
• 22:55
  life and it's just, you know, nothing sounds like that car
• 22:58
  like or nothing, I should say nothing sounds like AV 12 right
• 23:01
  through a gated manual and it just goes and it's it's it's got
• 23:05
  manual steering. When was the last time you drove
• 23:08
  a car with manual steering, you know?
• 23:10
  It's been a little bit. I think the closest thing would
• 23:13
  I can liken it to would be a Lotus Elise with 2 1/2 times the
• 23:16
  horsepower. And that's really what it felt
• 23:19
  like. But everyone gives you a thumbs
• 23:21
  up. No one hates on this car, right?
• 23:24
  Like it it is, it is a it is an experience just to see it.
• 23:27
  You know, I, I had the feeling out driving around that most of
• 23:30
  the people seeing it probably never actually seen one in
• 23:33
  person. I go into detail in the article
• 23:34
  about the first time I tried to take the car out and it broke
• 23:37
  down and some of the characters we met along the way.
• 23:39
  But you know, everyone has thoughts on a Diablo and you
• 23:45
  know you, you drive it and it grows on you and you want one
• 23:48
  and you know it. These things are going for about
• 23:50
  250 grand right now. I don't know if it's where I put
• 23:54
  my 250 grand. But also, like a boat, it's
• 23:58
  really great when your friend has one, right?
• 24:00
  Just to say it sounding more like get a friend with a Diablo.
• 24:04
  That's I think that's the move. You know, I don't know anyone
• 24:08
  who has a Diablo as a second car even right.
• 24:10
  You know, it's like a fifth car or a sixth car, but what a good
• 24:13
  fifth car or sixth car It is. It is it's it's a tremendous
• 24:17
  thing. If you ever get a chance, do
• 24:19
  drive one, because I think by the time even the mercy Lago
• 24:22
  came around, it was a different car, right, probably for better,
• 24:26
  but a different car. And that Diablo was just a
• 24:28
  moment in time. Read the article for more
• 24:30
  because I kind of nerd out on it.
• 24:33
  It was. I will always remember the the
• 24:36
  video for Cosmic Girl or Jamiroquai where the car is
• 24:39
  racing and someone heard the story behind that is that
• 24:44
  someone had driven it and crushed it in some way where the
• 24:48
  windscreen got smashed. So if you actually watch the
• 24:51
  video, he's driving the car without a windscreen.
• 24:54
  Oh, interesting. Yeah, I.
• 24:56
  Don't want those little behind the scenes tidbits?
• 24:58
  Yeah. There we go.
• 24:58
  Yeah. But yeah, how do you fit in
• 25:00
  there with that hat? That's fine with the horns.
• 25:03
  Very carefully. Should have got the right stuff.
• 25:06
  Guys, it's it's amazing again and then I'll shut up.
• 25:09
  But drive one if you get a chance, just sit in it.
• 25:12
  Just just commune with it because they don't make cars
• 25:15
  like that. They hardly made them.
• 25:17
  Then it's a special. The car's got an edge.
• 25:21
  It is just it is, it is living. It is living.
• 25:24
  Driving What's next? Are you allowed to say?
• 25:27
  Yeah, I'll tell you what the space did here first.
• 25:31
  Well, maybe we get people to comment what should what?
• 25:33
  Should Ryan OK, because. The theme here, right, is that
• 25:36
  you're driving cars from your youth that were posters on your
• 25:40
  wall. Exactly.
• 25:41
  Poster cars. Yep.
• 25:42
  And you've already driven Cara GT?
• 25:44
  Yep. Diablo.
• 25:46
  Yep. What else 350-5355?
• 25:50
  Yeah, I guess that's that's just those 3.
• 25:53
  So we're talking 90s ish. Yeah, early 90s, you know.
• 25:57
  Yeah, Yeah. So let us.
• 25:58
  Know what Ryan should drive next?
• 26:00
  I guess the Courgy, yeah, group Courgy T came a little bit
• 26:03
  later, but that was, yeah, that's a forever car, right?
• 26:06
  So. Yeah, OK.
• 26:07
  We will watch this space and maybe you reveal next week
• 26:10
  what's next. He's going to be impressed.
• 26:12
  Yeah, Is it Italian? Give us one clue, one there.
• 26:15
  We go yes, yes it is. Well, it's not the F40 because I
• 26:19
  know that's in the shop, but we will see.
• 26:21
  The F40 is back baby. But.
• 26:25
  I'm not saying that's the one. No.
• 26:27
  But you're not saying it's not the one there's.
• 26:29
  Some other good ones in there too.
• 26:31
  Next week, next week. I thought based on we got a lot
• 26:35
  of good feedback last week about the VW comments we made.
• 26:38
  So I thought we would do a slightly different question for
• 26:41
  the group and hopefully you guys have done some research because
• 26:44
  I gave you the question in advance.
• 26:46
  I've got a wonderful question, wonderful answer, but I know
• 26:48
  that Ryan believes he's right, and I think Lindsay believes
• 26:51
  she's right. I mean, I obviously am.
• 26:54
  Yeah, someone. Else go first though I've done
• 26:56
  way, way too much talk. So let me give you the question
• 27:00
  and then we can discuss. So you've stolen Doc Brown's
• 27:05
  DeLorean and you decide to go back in time and visit a
• 27:09
  dealership during peak Porsche. So we're talking the best time
• 27:15
  to buy a Porsche. What year do you set the clock
• 27:18
  and why? And what is your justification
• 27:21
  for that year? So, Lindsay, do you want to?
• 27:23
  Go first yes. And I like I like that this that
• 27:29
  this, you know, scenario little thought experiment starts off
• 27:33
  with some light automotive crime with an icon and Hollywood and
• 27:38
  cars. I really appreciate it.
• 27:42
  And so my where the year that I'm setting the clock to is 1973
• 27:49
  because I would like to go back and see the 2.7 liter Rs in
• 27:54
  dealership because I, I don't know what it was like at the
• 27:59
  time when that car came out. I think most of us would agree
• 28:03
  that if you had to pick like the Porsche, that is one of the top
• 28:06
  contenders. So I think it'd be really
• 28:08
  fascinating to see that in the moment it was introduced and
• 28:13
  kind of see it in real time, knowing the sort of legend, you
• 28:18
  know, I don't know if legend is the right word, but knowing how
• 28:22
  it is thought of today and how revered it is, I think it'd be
• 28:26
  really interesting to sort of see where that started.
• 28:30
  Does Doc Brown's car have a trailer hitch?
• 28:33
  It does now. He's very clever.
• 28:37
  Yeah. Imagine, like at the time, I
• 28:40
  wonder if people knew what they were looking at when they walked
• 28:43
  in because sometimes some of these cars, these, these
• 28:46
  legendary cars, at the time, they're not considered
• 28:49
  legendary. And even to a point where
• 28:50
  sometimes they don't even sell a lot of.
• 28:52
  Right. People are like, what is this?
• 28:54
  I don't want it. Why would you ever?
• 28:55
  And then, you know, decades later they're like, wait, that
• 28:58
  was the peak or that was the penultimate or you know, I mean,
• 29:00
  I think I may be misremembering, but I think there was a little
• 29:04
  bit of that with the 959 because it was such a huge technological
• 29:08
  achievement, but it was different and people were kind
• 29:09
  of like, you know, it takes like people need a moment to process
• 29:14
  it. So I'd be curious, obviously it
• 29:16
  wasn't wouldn't be the same as it is now, but were there people
• 29:21
  that like recognized it for what it was at the time or was it
• 29:24
  sort of a sleeper? And like only with hindsight, we
• 29:27
  look back and realize what a big deal it was.
• 29:30
  So I would love to, you know, see that in action.
• 29:34
  Nice. I don't feel like.
• 29:37
  Going sorry, I was just going to say I don't know that the 73 Rs
• 29:40
  was nearly as appreciated in time and period as it is now.
• 29:43
  And in fact, I, I, I seem to recall some stories about, you
• 29:47
  know, these cars sitting, you know, other things.
• 29:50
  Yeah, tomfoolery to to sell the things.
• 29:53
  I would not be surprised if that was the case.
• 29:55
  That's why I think it'd be, yeah.
• 29:56
  Like. You know, that would be my guess
• 29:59
  and I think it'd be interesting to to especially because if you
• 30:02
  could walk into a dealer and see one with the benefit of knowing
• 30:06
  what we know and just be like, this is wild.
• 30:08
  And I kind of have this amazing secret and nobody knows.
• 30:12
  Yeah, yeah. And you think what else was in a
• 30:14
  Porsche dealership in 73 was it would have been a 9/14, right?
• 30:19
  Yeah. Obviously you're 911.
• 30:21
  Was the 912 still being made in 70?
• 30:24
  No, probably not. But maybe when did the 928 come
• 30:28
  out? Well, that would have been.
• 30:30
  Don't know. I'm going to look that up
• 30:32
  because now I want to know. We can ask our research.
• 30:33
  Our research assistant. So that was 77, I would have
• 30:38
  guessed earlier. Yeah, OK, interesting.
• 30:41
  But, you know, right around the corner, you know, interesting.
• 30:44
  It's a great answer because, I mean, I think that the general
• 30:46
  lineup was also pretty solid, right, Right.
• 30:50
  Except for those 9 fourteens, but you've come around on this.
• 30:53
  High. Yeah.
• 30:54
  Very high, Ryan, what are you going with?
• 30:56
  Let's hear the next right. Answer Well, I'm glad you went
• 30:58
  further back than I did, but I knew right away what year, and
• 31:04
  for me it's 2011 because think about 2011.
• 31:10
  So 2011. If you know, you know, your
• 31:12
  Porsche history was sort of in the end of the 997 and you were,
• 31:16
  you were in the right in the middle of the point twos, right,
• 31:18
  the dot twos. And, and you know, I'm really
• 31:21
  realizing that those are really my favorite modern Porsches.
• 31:24
  You know, our pal Tom Moran just took delivery of his Rs 4.0 and
• 31:28
  you know, being in that thing like that is that is it that is
• 31:31
  the alpha and the Omega that is the car that said, you know, the
• 31:34
  lesser 990 sevens are equally wonderful.
• 31:36
  It's just the right size, you've got the right visibility.
• 31:38
  They're just fantastic. And the, and the point twos for
• 31:41
  me with the GT3 and all that, it's really when it sort of came
• 31:44
  together for me. So, so 2011 was an interesting
• 31:47
  year because you were really at the end of the nine and seven,
• 31:50
  you know, the 99 on the corner. But you had some wonderful
• 31:54
  models outside of that GT34-O because you had the Turbo S that
• 31:59
  was just made, I think for 2011 and 2012, which is an
• 32:02
  exceptional, exceptional thing. And I think buy one now because
• 32:06
  those are only going to go up and up and up.
• 32:08
  The GTS, we often forget about the GTS.
• 32:11
  The 997.2911 GTS, that was a neat car, had the center lock
• 32:15
  wheels. I think it had 385 horse.
• 32:19
  No, that was the standard. I think it had close to 400
• 32:22
  horsepower. That was a really, really cool
• 32:24
  car too. You could get a four, you could
• 32:26
  get a cab. That was another one.
• 32:29
  Also the GT2 Rs, I believe that was right about that time.
• 32:33
  I may be off a couple years. We talked about those Volkswagen
• 32:35
  things. It was overwhelmingly positive,
• 32:39
  but we also had a lot of people correcting us.
• 32:40
  Oh, well, that car came out one year before, one year after.
• 32:43
  So, but that was at the, you know, in the mix at the time for
• 32:45
  sure, you know, but that, but that was that was it for me.
• 32:49
  That was the first year of the of the second Gen.
• 32:52
  Cayenne as well. 2011 is when that was introduced, you could
• 32:55
  get a diesel, right? That was a that was a great year
• 32:59
  for Porsche, right? And, and so 2011 for me, if I
• 33:03
  could do a George Costanza and make a bed under John Dicey's
• 33:06
  best, just soak all that in the 2011 in for a day or two, I'd do
• 33:11
  it because I keep coming back to that time.
• 33:13
  Those are my favorite modern Porsches.
• 33:15
  And it's not like Volkswagen. It's not like we've really
• 33:19
  fallen. I just think we were really,
• 33:21
  really focused in 2011. So, well, like you said, that
• 33:25
  would have been like, I wonder how many other times in the
• 33:27
  history of the company there were so many models at the same
• 33:31
  time that would have held your interest.
• 33:34
  You know, given that it's our like, what's interesting for us?
• 33:37
  Yeah, that'd be interesting to know for sure.
• 33:39
  All right, Dan. Well, initially I was going to
• 33:44
  go for 1995 because I was actually doing an internship at
• 33:49
  Porsche at the time in the. UK.
• 33:52
  And we launched the turbo and the 4S at the same time, but
• 33:57
  I've not gone for that. I want to take you further back
• 34:02
  and it's around 198687. OK.
• 34:07
  You are walking into the dealership, you get hit by a big
• 34:12
  wave of Cologne like someone's wearing like Old Spice or
• 34:17
  something, right? With a you know, the slick back
• 34:19
  sales guy you walk in is. He sniffing a little bit.
• 34:24
  Is it it? Could be he's got white powder
• 34:26
  coming from his nose. Right.
• 34:28
  I appreciate that you're setting the stage with so much detail.
• 34:31
  It's. Kind of like everyone.
• 34:32
  Remember why it's like smell O vision.
• 34:34
  Yeah, you are looking like Joey from Friends.
• 34:39
  You're wearing your Porsche hat, your Porsche jacket, everything
• 34:43
  that says I own a Porsche. Even though you don't own a
• 34:46
  Porsche. You've got the world's biggest
• 34:49
  telephone. So you're walking in with a
• 34:51
  mobile phone that is bigger than a brick.
• 34:54
  Yeah, and. Yeah, early adopter.
• 34:59
  Yeah, not having to worry about Adm.
• 35:02
  This is way before everyone thought about, hey, we can, we
• 35:05
  can con people out even more money.
• 35:08
  So there's no Adm or any of the cars.
• 35:10
  Well, they were struggling a little bit even, right?
• 35:12
  Yeah, yeah. So you walk in front of the tow
• 35:15
  room and you see the 9/11 turbo convertible and it's just in
• 35:23
  guards red. You know, there weren't multiple
• 35:25
  colors. You pretty much had like 5
• 35:27
  colors to pick from and there it is like and it's on a turntable
• 35:31
  and it's kind of going around. Fuchs wheels?
• 35:33
  Are we talking Fuchs wheels? What are we talking BBS?
• 35:36
  OK, Fuchs alloys, you know, dark hard talk.
• 35:39
  A dark convertible cover and the big wing on the back.
• 35:43
  The whale tail. Remember the whale tail.
• 35:47
  And then you realize you can't afford it.
• 35:50
  But what you do walk away with is you walk away with a
• 35:53
  brochure. Back then, brochures were
• 35:56
  amazing. Like you would get these
• 35:59
  brochures that had so much love and attention gone into them and
• 36:03
  they would give them out if you were lucky.
• 36:05
  So you could get this brochure of the car and you'd walk away
• 36:07
  and you're like, hey, I don't own the car, but I've just had a
• 36:09
  great experience. And then you have one more piece
• 36:12
  of memorabilia where you're like, obviously I've been to the
• 36:16
  dealership because I have this. Yes, that's a Goodyear, Dean.
• 36:21
  I thought maybe going to say you walk away at a 944 of some
• 36:24
  variety. Maybe yeah, you can't afford.
• 36:26
  It that was your consolation? Or the 928 you've just bought
• 36:29
  the 9028, it's been traded in. That's that's right.
• 36:32
  That would have had a sticker price even higher maybe than
• 36:34
  that. I don't have to look that up,
• 36:35
  but but yeah, that those that was, you know, I we talk about,
• 36:40
  you know, what cars mean and what they symbolize and, you
• 36:42
  know, and, and, you know, aspirational cars and all that.
• 36:46
  And I think for a lot of us, that would have been the car
• 36:49
  that really was on our radar or on our wall.
• 36:52
  You know, that was definitely Wall St. bro.
• 36:55
  You know what was the movie with Wall Street?
• 36:59
  It was Wall Street. But I mean, it was literally
• 37:01
  well. You set it up right?
• 37:03
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:04
  Shiny suits and all that. And I've told this story before.
• 37:08
  We had a neighbor that it wasn't a convertible, but he had a
• 37:10
  turbo right at about that same time, black silver BBS wheels
• 37:14
  seemed to have more than one girlfriend and was he was, he
• 37:20
  was swinging bachelor for sure. And, you know, you know, we were
• 37:24
  driving minivans or whatever at the time.
• 37:25
  And and and, you know, that car was just in such contrast to
• 37:29
  what we were driving, what most people were driving in my town.
• 37:31
  I mean, that guy, you know, he had it figured out and that I I
• 37:36
  think that's when those cars really the people maybe that
• 37:39
  were driving those cars really changed from, you know, who had
• 37:42
  driven Porsches historically, right?
• 37:45
  Yeah, Yeah. That was a, that was a time of
• 37:48
  transition for Porsche for sure. And I, I would argue that we've
• 37:51
  continued to almost sort of carry that, yeah, that in that
• 37:54
  same direction in a way. Was that was that Gordon Gecko?
• 38:00
  Gordon Gecko. That's I was.
• 38:01
  Like yeah, the best name, but I couldn't think of who it was.
• 38:04
  I had to check as well because I remember that there was a
• 38:06
  Porsche in weird science. Did you guys ever see weird?
• 38:09
  Science. Oh yeah, I.
• 38:10
  Think it was a nine 28100% at 9:11 so.
• 38:14
  In a Mondeal, I think, right? Wasn't it a foreign deal as
• 38:17
  well? Yeah, yeah.
• 38:18
  I love that movie. That's a great, that's a great
• 38:21
  call back. That was it.
• 38:24
  The reference, yeah, but let us know if you agree or disagree
• 38:28
  with us. Let us know what you think in
• 38:30
  the comments. Was peak Porsche.
• 38:32
  Is it? Have we completely missed the
• 38:33
  mark? Or did Lindsay get it right?
• 38:36
  Or did Ryan get it right? Or did I get it close to right
• 38:39
  but couldn't actually buy the car?
• 38:43
  I got the brochure. I got the.
• 38:44
  Yeah, I like that you threw a curveball in.
• 38:47
  Yeah. The journalists of the world
• 38:50
  seem to be an uproar and I don't really understand why.
• 38:53
  So I think GM have recently announced that they're no longer
• 38:57
  going to be supporting CarPlay or the Google equivalent.
• 39:03
  And there's been lots of different journalists
• 39:05
  complaining about this. I've seen it on LinkedIn, I've
• 39:07
  seen it on Instagram. And I guess my question to you
• 39:11
  guys is, would we actually care if we still had navigation?
• 39:16
  We still had the ability to skip through music?
• 39:19
  Like would you miss CarPlay now? Yes and no, because I think
• 39:24
  you're right. If you still have all the
• 39:25
  features available, it's really nice.
• 39:27
  But I think there is, you know, we get used to a certain system
• 39:31
  and I think there's a universality to Google or not
• 39:35
  Android Auto, but CarPlay, you know, for me, and just knowing
• 39:40
  that you can, it's like going to Starbucks, you know what you're
• 39:43
  going to get, you know, And so if you get into a car and, you
• 39:46
  know, you can get in, if it's got car play, you already can
• 39:49
  just start using it without having to learn it.
• 39:51
  Yeah. So there's that part of it.
• 39:52
  But, you know, I would hope that whatever they're moving towards
• 39:56
  is relatively intuitive. And so pretty quickly you'd be
• 40:00
  up and running. So I think I'd get over it.
• 40:03
  Yeah, right. Yeah, I think I'm actually a
• 40:06
  case study because, you know, we have this pole star and it was
• 40:08
  the first car that we'd had I guess that where where Apple
• 40:13
  Play wasn't automatic. And what I mean by that is it
• 40:15
  has Apple Play, but Apple Play isn't wireless.
• 40:18
  You've got a plug in through the USB and so you just got in the
• 40:21
  habit of not using it. And so Polestar, Volvo, whatever
• 40:26
  has their own version, which is no less good, does all the same
• 40:31
  stuff. And we've just gotten in the
• 40:33
  habit, I guess of of using that. You know, it's got its own
• 40:37
  navigation, all that. So I don't miss it.
• 40:39
  I've never felt inclined to go get a cord to plug in the phone
• 40:42
  so I could use Apple Play. There's nothing that Apple Play,
• 40:45
  I don't think offhand can do that that their proprietary
• 40:49
  system doesn't. That said, when I bought my
• 40:52
  portion, I bought the GT 4, you know, I wasn't going to pay for
• 40:56
  portion navigation, right? So that was a workaround for me
• 40:59
  to be able to plug in again. You've got to plug it in, but
• 41:02
  you know, it just I've gotten in the habit and, and, and I use it
• 41:05
  there, right, play music and the the few times I listen to music
• 41:08
  in the car. So I, I don't know, I think at
• 41:10
  one time it would have been more important to me.
• 41:12
  I'm a Mac guy, you know, I iPhone, you know, MacBook,
• 41:15
  whatever, but I, I, I don't know that it's as important as it
• 41:19
  used to be. I think it's time as they never
• 41:21
  really well, they take that back.
• 41:23
  I think recently they did push it forward, but for the longest
• 41:26
  time it never really changed, right.
• 41:28
  So I don't know. I wouldn't lose any sleep over
• 41:31
  it. Dan, you.
• 41:33
  It's a weird one. I like I I guess the only thing
• 41:36
  I would miss is sometimes I will use Siri so I will.
• 41:42
  Be like hey. Siri text blah blah blah or Hey
• 41:45
  Siri navigate me to here or Hey Siri, you know what was the
• 41:49
  score in the soccer or the football and my Siri is now
• 41:52
  going off but. Too much than I do for you.
• 41:56
  Yeah, it's it's listening too much.
• 41:59
  I I actually begrudge the fact that my car has car play but
• 42:03
  doesn't have wireless car play. That's what I want because I
• 42:06
  just had a McCann loaner for 24 hours and that you didn't even
• 42:10
  have to plug in and it's like it looks like the same, you know,
• 42:14
  screen. It looks like come on, Porsche,
• 42:16
  just sort it out so. It's so close, right?
• 42:20
  Yeah, yeah. But I think as long as I had my
• 42:21
  music and as long as I had clear navigation, I don't care what
• 42:25
  platform it is. Yeah.
• 42:27
  Yeah, I think well and so I saw that they were discontinuing it,
• 42:30
  but I haven't seen the comments. Can you share like what some of
• 42:33
  the complaints were with the people that were upset about it
• 42:36
  going away? We'd.
• 42:36
  Have to go dig them up. What do?
• 42:40
  I imagine it's something along the lines of, you know, what
• 42:44
  does it cost? You know, like, why do you know,
• 42:46
  why not just keep it going right?
• 42:48
  I mean, what is this pennies or you, you know, it's something
• 42:50
  we've always used or it's, I think the argument for probably
• 42:54
  a lot of people is that generally it's going to work
• 42:57
  right like. Yeah.
• 42:59
  And well and like you said or like Dan was saying, the
• 43:02
  interface with your phone is pretty handy like to being able
• 43:05
  to use Siri. But I think, I mean, my guess
• 43:07
  would be it's data-driven because I used to work for a
• 43:10
  company that was providing the like our system and it was a car
• 43:18
  play competitor, but the OEMs owned all the data.
• 43:22
  And that was one of the complaints about Apple and
• 43:25
  Google is that if they plug that into their cars, you get the
• 43:30
  universal functionality, but they don't get the visibility
• 43:33
  into the user data. So the appeal of using their own
• 43:37
  platform or working with a company that has built one, they
• 43:41
  get to see all of their user data, which is invaluable to
• 43:44
  them. So that that would be my guess,
• 43:46
  it's a. Good.
• 43:47
  I've got so I'm connected to a few car journalists on LinkedIn
• 43:51
  and this is Yuri. So if you don't know Yuri, he's
• 43:54
  one of the hosts of the Straight Pipes, which is a very
• 43:57
  successful YouTube channel. Yuri and Jacob.
• 44:01
  Hey, and we're going for a drive.
• 44:03
  That's their channel and Yuri has said GM getting rid of
• 44:08
  CarPlay and Android Auto across all models in the future.
• 44:11
  Dang big mistake. Someone please control Z this
• 44:16
  real quick. That's.
• 44:17
  Clever. Yeah, he's clearly not happy
• 44:19
  about it. You know what pisses me off
• 44:21
  more, if I may, is, you know my one complaint about this GR
• 44:26
  Corolla? It's got a charging pad that
• 44:28
  doesn't do a damn thing. You can get it just so 2 seconds
• 44:31
  later the light starts flashing. I I've taken the case off, I've
• 44:34
  taken the put the case on. I've tried my new whatever
• 44:37
  iPhone 17, whatever this is, I've tried an old iPhone.
• 44:39
  It doesn't do squat. You know other cars, they seem
• 44:43
  to either work or not work. To me that's a much more
• 44:45
  important feature, and especially if you've got
• 44:48
  wireless properly right, you need to have that charger.
• 44:51
  Yeah, that's true. Well, those are.
• 44:53
  Warm. Yeah, phone warmer, right?
• 44:55
  No, you're right. Yeah, exactly.
• 44:57
  I mean, how else is your phone supposed to stay warm in the
• 44:59
  winter? But that's one of those things
• 45:01
  where you see it and you get excited because you're like, oh,
• 45:03
  the ES. And then to have it not work, it
• 45:05
  feels like doubly frustrating because you're like, I was
• 45:07
  promised this amazing thing and now not only is it here, but it
• 45:11
  doesn't work. And there are plenty of cars
• 45:13
  that do it just fine. You can throw that phone,
• 45:15
  however, and it charges and others.
• 45:16
  You got to get it just right. In fact, I got so frustrated I
• 45:19
  went into the GR forums, which I know is not where you want to go
• 45:22
  for 1000 reasons, right? And the solution seems to be
• 45:27
  take some foam core. In fact, you could download a
• 45:30
  template. You take this foam core and you
• 45:32
  fit it in the in this in this tray and it holds your phone in
• 45:36
  just the precise position to charge.
• 45:39
  So it's a position thing, I guess.
• 45:40
  But I don't want a piece of foam core hold my car.
• 45:44
  I mean, come on. Like, I love that there's a
• 45:47
  solution, but it's like, yeah, that that cheapens it a little
• 45:51
  bit. Janky is the word.
• 45:52
  Yeah, I. Love the fact that Ryan was so
• 45:55
  frustrated by this he went on to the GR forums.
• 45:59
  For a car that he's going to have for a week, Yeah.
• 46:02
  But that tells you how bad it was.
• 46:03
  Yeah. Or how frustrated.
• 46:05
  You have this car. How long?
• 46:07
  I may not give this one back, but I've had it for three days.
• 46:11
  Now we know. That's why he's on the forum on.
• 46:12
  The TR Corolla. My driveway has a gate.
• 46:15
  Come get me Toyota. I like this thing.
• 46:17
  I like it a lot except for that. It's like before I decide
• 46:20
  whether I'm returning the keys or not, or attempting to keep
• 46:23
  them, let me see if I can fix this charging pad thing.
• 46:25
  And now that I have oops, can't find the keys.
• 46:28
  That's it would stop. Your phone is always out of
• 46:30
  charge, just buy a damn cable. I like the sleek look intended
• 46:36
  by the designers. Thank you there.
• 46:38
  We go you don't want to spoil their aesthetics.
• 46:40
  I'm not an Uber driver, at least not yet.
• 46:42
  So I think we should probably mention very briefly that last
• 46:46
  week we announced a competition and you could win another
• 46:51
  Sheffield Watch. We're not going to tell you how
• 46:53
  on this episode, but if you listen to last week's episode,
• 46:56
  we were very clear on how you could win it.
• 46:59
  But we've already had some good entries.
• 47:00
  So thank you to everyone that's given us and it's people that we
• 47:04
  don't know in their amazing comments.
• 47:05
  So thank you very. Much that's.
• 47:06
  Right, the competition is heating up too.
• 47:10
  I think you just sort of let on to how to do it.
• 47:12
  But let's say, let's say that. Yeah.
• 47:17
  It was a good hint, like what is Ryan going to be driving next?
• 47:20
  It was a solid hint, but you got to go listen to the episode.
• 47:23
  Yeah, listen to the last week's episode and the best of luck in
• 47:27
  entering the competition. Yes.
• 47:29
  The episode was called Milking It and we are milking it.
• 47:31
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  that car show. The NSX is coming back, and I
• 48:21
  don't mean the new old NSX, I mean the original, the one that
• 48:25
  was worked on by Senna and it is coming back via Pinum Farina,
• 48:30
  which is a bit weird because I don't know.
• 48:31
  Did Pinum Farina design the original NSA I've.
• 48:33
  Never heard that but. I do not think so, but I could
• 48:36
  be corrected. And a company called Jazz
• 48:39
  Motorsport, OK, and they're going to use existing chassis.
• 48:44
  So this is a common trick. Singer do it.
• 48:47
  The guys at HWA, the effects that do Mercedes, essentially,
• 48:52
  if you're using an old chassis, you get to use the VIN from that
• 48:55
  chassis. So technically it's not a new
• 48:58
  car. Technically you don't have to
• 49:00
  crush it. You don't have to put it through
• 49:01
  safety tests. You know, you're already kind of
• 49:04
  starting ahead of the game, if you will.
• 49:06
  But they're going to put carbon fiber bodies of the NSX body on
• 49:12
  top of these old chassis. Is that something that appeals?
• 49:16
  What's the price point? Yeah, I I can't see them being
• 49:20
  less than half a million. I know.
• 49:22
  And at that price, no, not really did they make.
• 49:25
  I mean we talked about Singer and how they're going to vacuum
• 49:27
  up all the 96 fours, but they did make a lot of 96 fours even
• 49:30
  though they made relatively few 96 fours, you know, versus all
• 49:33
  of 9/11 production. But what are we talking with NSX
• 49:35
  numbers? Because I never, you know, I
• 49:38
  don't remember seeing a ton of NSF NSX's back in the day
• 49:41
  somewhere. NSX is a car week this year than
• 49:43
  it had up to, you know, that point in my life.
• 49:46
  I just, I wonder how big that pool is.
• 49:48
  Obviously they're not, you know, going to go through too many of
• 49:51
  them, but you can still get a good NSX, right for 400 grand,
• 49:57
  maybe a little bit less. 100 grand, yeah.
• 50:00
  So the the coupe is so obviously they started in the 90s the
• 50:05
  coupons. In. 1990 They made about 9009.
• 50:10
  1000. They then went to the Targa mid
• 50:12
  90s and they made 8 1/2 thousand.
• 50:16
  And then they were like special editions like the Type R, which
• 50:21
  were very much less than 500 each time.
• 50:24
  So, you know, there's, there's, I guess there's what, 1415
• 50:28
  thousand chassis out. There, yeah, they made them for
• 50:30
  a long time. Potentially like for the ones
• 50:33
  that have survived to the state, yeah.
• 50:35
  So carbon bodies, I assume there's some some meddling with
• 50:40
  the with the motors and. Transmission and suspension.
• 50:45
  Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they're wonderful.
• 50:49
  But again, you know, we've talked about this before if
• 50:50
  you've got a half $1,000,000 to spend.
• 50:53
  Right. Is that where you're going to
• 50:54
  put it? Yeah.
• 50:56
  Well, I feel like it's, but again, it's that would be like a
• 50:59
  fifth car maybe. Or maybe I just need to be
• 51:02
  friends with someone who has it as a fifth or sixth car.
• 51:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the NSX, the original
• 51:08
  NSX, the the newer one didn't really hit me until about the
• 51:11
  Type S or whatever late in the game, but that original NSX is a
• 51:14
  truly beautiful car. I've never driven one, but you
• 51:19
  know, all of a sudden they just, they just are really, really
• 51:23
  appealing to me, right? Just at the same time, right,
• 51:25
  Like, you know, the the prices are going up, but they're
• 51:28
  wonderful. I do wonder if I'd want more
• 51:29
  power, but it's not nothing. It's just time that you have
• 51:34
  more taste. Let's.
• 51:36
  Try yeah, I don't know, it's it's I, I, I I'd almost rather
• 51:41
  have just a really good original and then money for, you know,
• 51:45
  for other cars or. Something.
• 51:46
  Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards too.
• 51:48
  I got to sit in an original and it was really cool and they're
• 51:53
  very unique. Obviously, if you've gotten to
• 51:55
  get up close, you know that. So I would love to drive one,
• 51:57
  but I think if I was in the market for one, I would be
• 52:00
  looking for just a good example of an original.
• 52:03
  Yeah. I sat in the there's a really
• 52:05
  limited edition Type R and it wasn't available in North
• 52:08
  America and it was only available in Europe and Japan.
• 52:12
  But the two things that struck me with that is the seating
• 52:15
  position was too high. So you couldn't like even
• 52:20
  someone who's maybe, I don't know, half a foot, I don't know,
• 52:24
  someone shorter than me wouldn't be able to drive it with a
• 52:26
  helmet on. OK.
• 52:29
  The seating position was just too high.
• 52:31
  And were they? Was it a different seating
• 52:33
  position than just the regular ones?
• 52:35
  Yeah, it's like a proper sports seat, like a proper race seat,
• 52:39
  like a fixed part. Yeah, it has the smallest gear
• 52:42
  knob of any car I've ever seen. So I challenge anyone to show me
• 52:47
  a smaller gear knob than than the NSA.
• 52:51
  In 3rd jokes here our. Next contest.
• 52:54
  Yeah, which was amazing. You could always just use two
• 52:58
  fingers and enter the gear like it was not.
• 53:02
  Yeah, it was not conducive to, you know, proper shifting.
• 53:06
  Interesting. OK, yeah, no more jokes on that
• 53:09
  one. Just let this one go, yeah?
• 53:13
  Yeah, it needed, I don't know, it needed car Viagra moving
• 53:19
  carefully on. That car show is not sponsored
• 53:22
  by Bluetooth, but we are open to discussions.
• 53:24
  Yes, yeah. Well, I was thinking if we can
• 53:26
  get a few more sponsors and we're obviously very grateful
• 53:29
  for the sponsors we have and maybe we could buy a group GR
• 53:32
  Corolla and pull it between them.
• 53:35
  You know, we'll keep it in LA, let's say, because that's
• 53:38
  geographically the the nearest from Seattle, from Denver and
• 53:42
  from Orange County. Right.
• 53:44
  When you look at, yeah, critical mass, that's the most central
• 53:47
  and we're happy to wrap it in a blue tube livery should they be
• 53:49
  interested there. We go, right?
• 53:52
  Yeah. Let us know if you want to
• 53:53
  sponsor us and help us get closer to a company car.
• 53:56
  This sort of lozenge shaped a question for you.
• 53:59
  If we were to do that, what would the vanity plate read?
• 54:03
  Depends on the sponsor, isn't it?
• 54:05
  Yeah. Yeah, because you can get, they
• 54:08
  did a limited like Johnny's got one.
• 54:10
  The blue is really limited edition, like it was only
• 54:13
  available in like one or two years.
• 54:14
  I see. I want to say it was just the
• 54:16
  first year. Yeah, and it was a refresh back
• 54:19
  to they did it on the normal Corolla for like 1 year.
• 54:21
  OK, so you could do that and then have blue chew BLUCHEW.
• 54:27
  Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:31
  Our phone lines are open. You, I think you've got more
• 54:34
  letters and numbers in California.
• 54:36
  We've only got 6. Yeah, we have 7 in California.
• 54:39
  That makes it a little tougher, but is.
• 54:40
  That so symmetrical can't read as well in Denver.
• 54:45
  They're all you know. The vision's a little blurry.
• 54:47
  You. Know they're like, listen, the
• 54:48
  comprehension cut off is 6. We're we're capping it,
• 54:52
  otherwise they're gonna be too overwhelmed.
• 54:55
  Yeah, I'm just grateful when I see a license plate on a car in
• 54:57
  Colorado. And if you live here, you know
• 54:58
  exactly what I mean. So yeah, what's that?
• 55:01
  What's that Instagram account? Is it Plates of Destiny or?
• 55:05
  So urban under score plates I think.
• 55:07
  Under score Plates of Destiny better.
• 55:09
  Yeah, perhaps we should set up Plates of Destiny.
• 55:12
  So it's like a Mormon thing. It comes with a magic wand and
• 55:15
  its own spaceship, and once you reach a certain level, you get a
• 55:19
  you get a robe. Shoot Harry Potter and the
• 55:22
  Plates of Destiny. There we go.
• 55:24
  Harry learns to drive. That's the that's the
• 55:26
  unpublished secret secret sequel or whatever.
• 55:29
  Yeah, it's. The new JK Rowling book Harry.
• 55:32
  Works on a plate. What have you guys got coming
• 55:35
  up? Can you share or anything?
• 55:36
  Sure. Ryan, what do you oh, I, I'm,
• 55:40
  I'm looking forward to the LA Auto Show, which is going to be
• 55:43
  here before we know it. I'm looking forward to getting
• 55:47
  your impressions of SEMA. I have not been but once, and
• 55:50
  that was a couple of years ago. It was overwhelming.
• 55:53
  If you're really, really lucky, you can take the Boring
• 55:55
  Company's underground Tesla. Oh.
• 55:58
  That's right. Whatever you call it, yeah, it's
• 56:01
  super exciting, the reason they call it the Boring Company.
• 56:04
  But there's that. And yeah, I'm just curious to
• 56:08
  get your take because there are halls and halls of dent pulling
• 56:14
  equipment and, you know, yeah, terrible Chrome wheels and
• 56:21
  polishing machines and yeah, so you name it, make sure you get a
• 56:25
  map because you want to go to the right places unless you're
• 56:28
  into that kind of thing. You want to see like the new
• 56:29
  cars. You want to see the concepts you
• 56:31
  want to see. Well, in the builds, the like
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  crazy city builds, that's. It Is there a Tori VW in there?
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  No, not this year. Not this.
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  Year, then we get his legacy carries through.
• 56:43
  Right, exactly. I mean, I feel like there's a,
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  you know, the spirit of Tories builds will be at all these
• 56:48
  events. Hopefully he's inspiring other
• 56:51
  other builds. Hopefully.
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  But yeah. So Dan, do you know what you're
• 56:54
  going to be doing there? I haven't been either and I'm
• 56:56
  really curious to hear what you think.
• 56:58
  I don't know. I'm very grateful to the folks.
• 57:00
  They've given me a media pass so nice because, you know, they
• 57:04
  changed the model a couple of years ago.
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  So it used to be that you had to be in the industry to go.
• 57:09
  Right. And now they've changed the
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  model so there's one day that's open to the public and they do a
• 57:13
  nice festival and live bands and all that sort of good stuff.
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  But I don't think I'm going to be around for that because I
• 57:20
  think that's the Friday and that's the day I drive back from
• 57:22
  Vegas. You'll have a great time.
• 57:25
  I'm looking forward to seeing lots of friends making
• 57:27
  connections. Already had a few party invites
• 57:31
  so it's all about networking and having a little bit of fun.
• 57:37
  Right. And that's the way to do it.
• 57:39
  So what are you the most? What are you most looking
• 57:41
  forward to? It's just the builds I think,
• 57:43
  you know, Yeah, you see occasionally on Bring a Trailer
• 57:46
  or something, the egg Sema build, and you know, this is
• 57:49
  always after the fact, whereas you're going to be seeing it
• 57:51
  first hand. They'll be announced and
• 57:53
  launched at the show. Yeah, yeah, do.
• 57:56
  You think Lindsay is that right? I haven't.
• 57:58
  And every year I see the pictures and I think, OK, next
• 58:01
  year I have to get there because I, I don't remember if it was
• 58:04
  last year or the year before, but there were, it seemed like
• 58:07
  more trucks than usual. Or I think there was like a
• 58:09
  special truck theme or something.
• 58:11
  And some of those builds, like between the size of the wheels,
• 58:16
  you know, the intricacies, the size of the tires, and then the
• 58:19
  intricacies of the paint jobs and the, you know, accessories,
• 58:25
  it was just like, really a feast for the eyes.
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  So I'm curious. For the people.
• 58:29
  Right. So I'm curious to hear what it's
• 58:32
  like, you know, for real, Dan, what you think?
• 58:34
  And do we know if you're staying at the Drift Hotel yet?
• 58:37
  I think I am staying at the Drift Hotel.
• 58:40
  Unfortunately, I'll be driving there and back in a brand new
• 58:44
  F-150 Tremor. So I will let you guys know.
• 58:48
  Lindsay, that's the car of the Pacific Northwest, maybe?
• 58:51
  Or right. It's certainly a potential dream
• 58:55
  car for me, so I'm curious to hear what you think.
• 58:58
  Yeah, All right. You be careful, Dan.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Have all the fun. And a marvelous time.
• 59:07
  Yeah, absolutely nice. Yeah, Big thank you to Ford for.
• 59:11
  Yeah, that's awesome. I'm jealous.
• 59:13
  Very kind of them. And yeah, I'll let you know
• 59:15
  opinions and yeah, I'm excited to because this is like 1 down
• 59:19
  from the Raptor, but it's also off road worthy in terms of, you
• 59:24
  know, it's not, you know, one of the the the builds that they
• 59:27
  have that is kind of less is more on road.
• 59:30
  This is off road. So it's going to be exciting
• 59:33
  are. You going to be able to get out
• 59:34
  into the desert at all? Maybe, maybe, maybe before.
• 59:39
  We'll see. And Lindsay, what are you up to?
• 59:44
  You're going to. Do a defender event.
• 59:45
  Am I allowed to talk about that or do we hold on that tool?
• 59:49
  Yes, I will be doing a defender event, so stay tuned for
• 59:52
  stories. I would anticipate there's going
• 59:54
  to be some more off roading, which I love and the defenders
• 59:57
  are just oh so capable of doing and yeah.
• 1:00:00
  So I'm looking forward to sharing that with you guys.
• 1:00:03
  That'll be fun, since the driving season here seems to.
• 1:00:08
  I'm you know, there may be a sunny day here and there, but at
• 1:00:11
  least last weekend was not conducive for going for drives.
• 1:00:13
  So it is. What's the name of the event?
• 1:00:17
  Because there's a band playing, isn't there Quite a cool band?
• 1:00:21
  They have bands like throughout the event, so it's called
• 1:00:24
  Destination Defender Nice, and it's put on by a Jaguar Land
• 1:00:27
  Rover as a celebration of the Defender.
• 1:00:31
  What is interesting is they're slowly wearing you down to buy
• 1:00:33
  one. Maybe not even not Even so
• 1:00:37
  slowly. Yeah, it's like eventually we
• 1:00:41
  keep invited her into these events.
• 1:00:42
  She'll buy one, I'm sure. She will.
• 1:00:43
  Yeah. Like it's a matter of time,
• 1:00:45
  trust me. Well, have fun, that'll be
• 1:00:47
  great. Thanks.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it.
• 1:00:50
  Yeah, it's a car that like you see on the road and you kind of
• 1:00:53
  want it and you, it's just, they're just beautiful and like,
• 1:00:56
  go anywhere. They really are well, and it's
• 1:00:58
  kind of like, Brian, you were talking about A1 car solution.
• 1:01:01
  I think, you know, obviously no car does everything, but I love
• 1:01:07
  people talk, you know, people that drive at the racetrack.
• 1:01:10
  There's a lot of talk about like if you can drive your car from
• 1:01:14
  home to the track, drive it on the track and then drive it
• 1:01:16
  home. There's a certain like, and
• 1:01:20
  maybe it's just personal, but it's like you feel a little bit
• 1:01:22
  triumphant of like look at how capable this car is.
• 1:01:26
  And it's, you know, it's capable on the track and it's fun to
• 1:01:28
  drive. And I can also drive it on the
• 1:01:31
  street. And I feel like the Defender is
• 1:01:34
  a bit of that for off roading because they're so nicely
• 1:01:38
  appointed. They have all the features and,
• 1:01:40
  you know, bells and whistles you could want.
• 1:01:41
  They're comfortable, obviously great visibility because of the
• 1:01:44
  height. So you can drive them to the
• 1:01:46
  trailhead, tear up the trails and then drive them home in
• 1:01:49
  comfort. And I feel like that's not all
• 1:01:52
  cars can do that. And that's one of my favorite
• 1:01:54
  parts about them, especially because they are so capable off
• 1:01:57
  road too. So yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Big fans of Land Rovers here on that car show.
• 1:02:01
  Yeah, again, like Land Rover. Like Land Rovers.
• 1:02:05
  Kudos to them because they're putting on a set of experiences
• 1:02:09
  which is very different to any other car company, right?
• 1:02:12
  You know, to have this kind of festival that's not really, it
• 1:02:16
  looks like Sarah Price will be there.
• 1:02:18
  So, Sarah, we work. With the well, because she's
• 1:02:22
  doing, she is driving one of the Land Rover sponsored defenders
• 1:02:26
  in the Dakar Rally. Yeah, very good.
• 1:02:30
  Well, enjoy, enjoy. Looking forward to hearing
• 1:02:33
  reports back. I will bring all the stories.
• 1:02:37
  I think we're at a show, aren't we folks?
• 1:02:40
  Indeed, it's looking that way. Yeah, who wants to leave us with
• 1:02:43
  the phrase, the pace? Ryan's pointing, but I think we
• 1:02:48
  may all be. It's like Zoom where?
• 1:02:50
  He's not pointing at me, is he? There's only one person who does
• 1:02:53
  this right? It's.
• 1:02:54
  Great. Turned it into an art.
• 1:02:56
  Yeah. Well, thank you both.
• 1:03:00
  Yes, well, thank you so much for joining us.
• 1:03:02
  We're that car show. And remember, always be driving
• 1:03:05
  and we'll see you next week.