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This is a 'testament' to Ukrainians' fortitude - Robert Greenway · INSIGHT TODAY

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  Speaker 1: Joining US as National Security Edinsberg, Robert Greenway, welcome, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Can the American people be persuaded the conflict with Iran
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  Speaker 1: is in our best interest and how best to end
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  Speaker 1: this conflict so that the sacrifice of our soldiers and
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  Speaker 1: their families has meaning and purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Trey. I think the answer that
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  Speaker 2: question is yes, provided that they understand the rationale, which
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  Speaker 2: they have a sense of. They understand Iran has been
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  Speaker 2: at odds at enmity with the United States, has actively
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  Speaker 2: sought the death of our service members abroad, has plotted
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  Speaker 2: against our president, members of his family, and other administration officials.
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  Speaker 2: They understand, I think the nature of the regime, and
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  Speaker 2: I think they understand the possession of a nuclear weapon
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  Speaker 2: would give them the ability to operate with impunity, which
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  Speaker 2: would be even worse. I think that part has been made.
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  Speaker 2: I think what everyone is looking for is a path
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  Speaker 2: through this in which the burden, the economic cost and
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  Speaker 2: blood and treasure is not overcome or overshadow the benefits
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  Speaker 2: of that. And I think that that is still an
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  Speaker 2: open question for many Americans. But I do think that,
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  Speaker 2: as you said, that diplomacy is the odds of successful
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  Speaker 2: diplomacy have so far in the history of the regime
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  Speaker 2: have proven faultless, and I think under the current circumstances
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  Speaker 2: it's unlikely, although laudable, to pursue a diplomatic approach. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: the use of force will deny them the means and
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity, even if they retain the motive.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you about Ukraine. It continues
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  Speaker 1: to punch above its weight. How is that happening? And
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  Speaker 1: how long can it last? Because it certainly seems like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they have outlasted all the predictions and it
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  Speaker 1: seems like they're going on offense a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a testament, I think, to the fortitude of
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  Speaker 2: the people of Ukraine. But it's also I think the
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  Speaker 2: desperation when you're fighting for national survival, it brings out
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  Speaker 2: instincts that otherwise wouldn't be present. And they have managed
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  Speaker 2: to muster those and to employ them effectively against a
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  Speaker 2: much larger, numerically superior opponent. But they've proven that there
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  Speaker 2: are systemic weaknesses on the Russian side of it, and
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  Speaker 2: they have exposed all of them. And now they're going
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  Speaker 2: after the energy infrastructure and the maritime delivery means which
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  Speaker 2: are really bringing the country that they opposed to a
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  Speaker 2: grinding halt. The United States has provided critical support and
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  Speaker 2: assistance offensively and defensively, and I think that there's room
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  Speaker 2: to do more as well as to bring economic pressure
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  Speaker 2: to bear, to bring Putin to the table, and to
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  Speaker 2: discuss the really hard parts about bringing this conflict to
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  Speaker 2: an end.
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  Speaker 1: There are mixed messages. Shall we say on whether Russia
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  Speaker 1: and China are helping AROD and your judgment, are they
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  Speaker 1: and what should our response to that be? Assuming they are.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's no question, and I think the real risk
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  Speaker 2: here is not recognizing that without Russian and without Chinese support,
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  Speaker 2: Iran would not have developed both the nuclear weapon and
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  Speaker 2: the means to defend the perhaps to deliver it by
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  Speaker 2: ballistic missile. And so this has been the principal threat
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  Speaker 2: when they were allowed access to resources, which democratic administrations
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  Speaker 2: under Obama and Biden allowed them to do. That was
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  Speaker 2: the fault of the JAP that President Trump withdrew from. Rightly,
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  Speaker 2: I think what they're doing now is providing tasks support
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  Speaker 2: and if they're allowed, they'll allow that program to resurrect,
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  Speaker 2: and that, of course is the greatest danger that will
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  Speaker 2: have done all of this only to allow our adversaries
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  Speaker 2: to rebuild that and to threaten us once again, and
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  Speaker 2: we'd have to repay and essentially cover the same ground twice. Well,
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  Speaker 2: these threats, these adversaries have always been interconnected and they
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  Speaker 2: remain so. And I think President Trump recognizes it, which
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  Speaker 2: is why is critical actions to control energy markets both
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  Speaker 2: starves Moscow and constrains Beijing, all while going after both
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  Speaker 2: Venezuela and Iran. It's highly strategic and ultimately it's the
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  Speaker 2: right move.
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  Speaker 1: There has been discord, shall we say, in the Middle
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  Speaker 1: least for several thousand years, and it does not appear
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  Speaker 1: to be dissipating. Robert Greenway, thank you for your service
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  Speaker 1: to our country and for joining us on Sunday night.
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  Speaker 2: My pleasure. Thanks for having me Trek.
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