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Ep. 229 ~ History's Greatest Mystery · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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Everything is going to hail down here in deactis. Oh yeah, what's up
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everybody? This is your boy big Bad Vibe with you for another exciting episode
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of the Lone Gunman Podcast. This is episode two hundred and twenty niner.
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That's right cracking about baby, let's get it all right. So on this
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episode, we're gonna try a little something different and if it goes somewhat sideways,
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then I'll go ahead and apologize now for it. But through the magic
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of technology, folks, I want to do a reaction podcast to a History
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Channel show about the assassination in real time as we follow along with it.
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As you might know if you've ever watched just about any documentary on mainstream television,
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there's always a catch. There's always some bullshit, there's always something shady
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that they're trying to put out there. So with that being said, I
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want to try to do this in real time and call them on their bullshit
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right away, because with a lot of these shows, and the show in
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particular we're gonna be talking about here today is what the hell is the show
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called Hold on So Night, the assassination that shook our country towards court.
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It was just a shocked It's like everybody to stop and think for a moment
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about how the world had changed. Police quickly catch the culprit, but many
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believe there's more to the story. The first question any good theorist asks is
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who was Kennedy dead? Now we'll explore the top theories surrounding one of America's
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most shocking events. So he was convinced that Kennedy was killed by enemies high
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in his own government. He believed that Fidel Castro orchestrated the assassination of John
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F. Kennedy. Is there a conspiracy behind John F. Kennedy's assassination?
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And if so, who is really responsible for his debt? Okay, it's
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History's Greatest Mysteries with your host, Lawrence Fishburne. And you heard a couple
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of the talking heads in this series, and I will identify them as they
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pop up here. One of them is definitely Jefferson Morley. The other one,
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I'm not too sure about who this guy is. But they they love
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to have podcasters on their show to explain certain events about history. Now,
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why they didn't get a legitimate Kennedy assassination podcaster, you know, to to
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come on the show and do this. I don't know because several of these
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people, after thirty five years of research into the Kennedy assassination, I've never
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heard of you. And if I've never heard of you, then you haven't
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done shit and you don't deserve to be on television talking about especially with I'm
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sure some of the craft that's going to come f falling out of some of
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your mouth. Now, full disclosure, I have not watched this before.
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I saw it at first aired back in February, and I've been waiting to
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record it on a rerun and that's how we are listening now, So just
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bear with me. I'm hoping there's not going to be a bunch of commercials
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and I just don't know how this is going to go. But let's just
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dive right into it, shall we. And I'm gonna mute. Well,
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I don't know if I can meet my microphone and do this at the same
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time or what. I don't know. Let's try. Dallas, Texas,
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November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, At eleven twenty five am, President
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John F. Kennedy arrives on Air Force one. President Kennedy goes to Dallas
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to give a lunchtime speech at a convention center. Notice the trademark between his
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arrival at love Field and his speech, which he's to believe. Now,
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the person speaking right now is Phil Shendon. Phil Shendon, I believe he
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has written a book or two about the Kennedy assassination. So far. They
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have to set the table, of course, you know, for all the
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people who ownership about the assassination. So we're going to get the basics out
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of the way. Here with Phil Shendon. Motorcase for the center of downtown
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Dallas. The motorcade has over twelve cars. Kennedy is riding in a three
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road Lincoln Continental. Okay. The guy talking now is Patrick Hines, co
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host of the True Crime Obsessed podcast. Okay, True Crime Obsessed podcast.
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Never heard of it. Well, here we go. Let's see what he
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knows about the Kennedy assassination. He wrote. Lincoln Continental convertible limousine with the
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top down. President Kennedy and Missus Kennedy are in the back seat. President
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Kennedy on the right side, Missus Kennedy on the left. Ahead of them
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are Texas Governor John Connolly and his wife Nelly, and head of them are
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two Secret Service agents, one of them is driving. It's the varies of
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warm reception for Kennedy. There's something like two hundred thousand people like Okay,
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Now talking is Ben Cowan, professor of History, University of California at San
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Diego. Never heard of you, Pale. Let's see if you know what
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the fuck you're talking about. Through so it's no small turnouts, and at
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one point Missus Connolly in the car says, you can't say Dallas doesn't love
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you, Dan you and President Kennedy replies, no, you certainly can't.
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Those are his last words. The motorcade comes down Main Street to the end
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of Main Street, where it hits Daly Plaza, takes a sharp right turn
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on Commerce Street, and then a sharp left turn in front of the Texas
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school Book Depository, and it's at that moment that the first gunshots are hurt.
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There's Jefferson. More than a gunshot rings out, and then two more
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both President Kennedy and Governor Connelly or hit. Two shots hit Kennedy. The
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first enters his upper back and comes out through his throat, and then the
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second enters the back of his skull. He is rushed to Okay, so
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they're rating the magic bullet scenario. At least mister professor History there Ben Cowan
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is towing the company line. Here we go Parkland Memorial Hospital. That's where
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he would soon be declared dead at the age of forty six. Connolly is
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also gravely injured, but survives. One hour after the shooting, Kennedy's death
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is officially announced to the media. As word spreads of this, everybody stops
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where they are. People. Okay, this is Eve Pomperous, a former
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Semial Secret Service agents and smoke show freaking gorgeous by the way. Okay,
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let's see if she knows what she's talking about. You know what, Eve,
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it doesn't matter if you know what you're talking about. At this point,
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you are so hot. Okay, here we go. There's a lot
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of screaming, there's chaos, and just a lot. Oh yeah. It
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was just a shock that caused everybody to stop and think for a moment about
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how the world had changed, any divisiveness or any fractions within the country.
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Everybody just comes together in this moment to greed as the world stopped to born.
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Man hunt begins as soon as it's clear that President Kennedy has been hit
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and the motorcab rushes out of Daily Plaza. The police go interview eye witnesses,
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and perhaps the most important witness of that day was a steam fitter and
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Dallas man named Howard Brennan's who says that he saw a man with the rifle
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on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Deputy Constable Seymour Whitzman
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and Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone rushed inside the book depository. There they find quite
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literally the smoking gun. They find a man looker Carcano rifles, an Italian
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made rifle, and they also find three spent cartridges. He just did they
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did? They though? They just they just kind of glaze there with home
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what's his face? Marian Baker supposed encounter, and they got Boone and Whitzman
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rushing upstairs to find a man as they thought. They found a mouser.
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And there is a little bit of a discrepancy about the shells, but we'll
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get into that in the future show. But let's continue towing the company line.
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Somebody had just fired three bullets from the sixth floor. They find the
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books have been moved around to create sort of a sniper's perch. They also
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find a thirty eight All right, bullshit, Phil Shendon, there's your first
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bullshit alert. Bullshit alert. They didn't move cartons around to create a sniper's
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nest. They moved the cartons around to create space on the floor because they
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were replacing the fucking floor on the sixth floor that day. You have to
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move books out of the way to clear the floor, so you move them
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towards the edges of the walls so you can replace the floorboards. Let's continue.
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I guess Phil Shendon is a a lone nut author. Let's go thirty
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eight inch brown paper bag. The shooter escapes, but building staff identify a
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prime suspect. An employee at the Texas school Book Depository, Fuel Westley Frazier,
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offers a colleague a trip into downtown Dallas on the morning of the assassination,
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and the colleague is carrying a long brown paper bag in which he says
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he has curtain watch. The manager in the building, Roy Truly, looks
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around and he sees that one of his employees is actually missing. It's the
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same man who brought in that suspicious brown paper bag that morning. It's Lee
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Harvey Oswald police radio his description to Paul's city units. So it's been so
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now Roight truly comes to the conclusion that Lee Harvey ato Oswald is missing from
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the row. Call this old song and dance. Okay. So now,
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actually they put out the description based on Howard Brennan's shitty generic description before that.
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But then I guess, I guess at some point they might have put
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out a description of eat Lee Harvey Oswald that was nondescripted. You can get
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here, we go in an hour since President Kennedy was shot, and thanks
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to the quick work of the Dallas PD, they actually have a promising lead.
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Three shots fired, three spent shell casings found next to a rifle that
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they believe was brought in by Lee Harvey Oswald, who is the only person
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who has fled that book depository. Every other employees. They're still actually talking
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to investigators. Bullshit, bullshit, Eve, I love you, but you're
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wrong. Many many of the depository workers had left as much as an hour
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after the shots. Many were told that they can go home. In fact,
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and many were not ever interviewed by the Warrant Commission or the Dallas Police
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here we go, Gators. It appears that Oswald is the man responsible for
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the assassination. The Dallas Police Department sends out a message to be on the
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lookout for somebody who looks like Lee Harvey Oswald, and Officer J. D.
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Tippett is in a patrol car three miles away who sees a man on
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the side of the road who appears to fit the description of the man who's
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been identified in Deally Plausa as the president's assassin. The police officer tries to
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stop this man and his gun down by him and this man, according to
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many witnesses, is Lee Harvey Oswald. Police had any doubt that Lee Harvey
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oswalks I like the generic many witnesses. Look. There was a lot of
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witnesses to the Tippet shooting, and just about none of them saw the same
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thing. Some people saw two people. Some people we saw somebody that they
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would would identify as Lee Harvey Oswald. Some people said they couldn't identify him
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as Lee Harvey Oswald. Uh. Some people say he was wearing different clothes,
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ran in different directions, just you name it, but continue, Phil
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Shendon, it's needed President Kennedy that doubt is gone the moment he killed Officer
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Tippett. A local merchant named Johnny Brewer has seen this man duck into the
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local I like Kelly, conveniently leave out the word allegedly. You know they've
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got they've got this guy atston Stone, already frustrating, into the local movie
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theater a little bit before two pm. Police officers find Oswald seated there.
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He's armed. He puts up a struggle before he's arrested. One of the
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arresting officers, Nick McDonald, testifies that as they reach him, Oswald raises
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his pistol and pulls the trigger, but McDonald grabbed the gun just as the
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hammer falls, hitting the webbing between his thumb and index finger, probably saving
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his life. Oswald is brought to the police and court, and if you
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believe that one there, buddy, then I got some swamp land to Celia
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in Nebraska. Here we go building in downtown Dallas and charged for both murders.
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Subsequent investigation uncovers a lot more evidence that actually implicates Oswald. They find
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a photo of Oswald that was taken by his wife, which is holding a
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rifle that matches the murder woman. Oswald had made a fake idea in the
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name of Alec Hidel. The rifle that was found in the school book depository
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had been ordered in the name of Alec Hidel and sent to a ghost office
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spots in that name. Virtually all of the ballistics evidence points to Jefferson Morley.
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You're our only hope. Don't fail, as Buddy Oswald, as the
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gunman in y Plaza is Palm Prince are found on the weapons, and the
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bullets fired in daily Plaza almost certainly came of the rifle that's found on the
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sixth floor. But none of this evidence is ever I like these almost certainly,
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almost certainly, inevitably come on, man, come on it in court.
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So Nswald is held in custody downtown. He's interrogated by the FBI,
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the Secret Service, the Dallas Police Department, the Dallas District Attorney's office.
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He goes through rounds of questioning what we know from those interrogations that he lies
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again and again and again, and he insists he had nothing to do with
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the President's murdered. Then something absolutely okay. He lies again and again and
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again and again. Hopefully everybody out there has read all different versions of Fritz's
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bookouts hostis interrogation notes, and if you read them, Oswald's pretty damn truthful
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in there. The only thing he will not say is that eyeshots President or
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I killed the police officer. He pretty much cops to everything else, including
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living in Russia, including having a Russian wife. He tells him exactly where
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he was that day, what he was wearing when he left, why he
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left, the whole nine yards. These people have no idea what they're talking
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about. Absolutely crazy happens Sunday morning in November twenty fourth. Police are actually
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ready to transfer Oswald to the county jail, so they have an armored car
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ready in the basement of the building, and as he's being brought out in
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front of the TV cameras, Jack Ruby, owner of a local nightclub,
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steps out of the crowd with a forty five and shoots Oswald once in the
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stomach on national TV. Ruby is arrested. Oswald is taken to the same
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hospital as Kennedy, where, less than forty eight hours after the President,
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he's declared dead as well. Oswald's yeah on November twenty fourth means that there
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will never be a trial, never an opportunity to resolve an awful lot of
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the evidence that points to Oswald as the gunman in daily claza, new President
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Lyndon Johnson establishes a commission to investigate the assassination. Becomes known as the Warren
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Commission. It's sort of the ultimate Blue Rihbbon Commission. Among the other members
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or the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Allen Dallas, as well
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as a young congressman from Michigan by the name of Gerald Ford. The Warren
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Commission works for nearly a year compiling evidence gathering information. On September twenty fourth,
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nineteen sixty four, they present an eight hundred and eighty eight page report
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to President Johnson. The Warren Commission expresses no doubt. They state that Lee
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Harvey Oswald is the only man responsible for JFK's death. They also find that
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Jack Ruby acted alone and chilling Oswald. But over the years a lot of
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people have questioned these findings, saying that they might appear to be a little
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too meet, making this report far from the last word on JFK. Coming
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up, a new investigation leads to a bomb ship. The House Committee uses
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a word, and that word it's conspiracy, and later a surprising suspect as
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his day in court. They worked together to plan the assassination. The hu
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Chase Innco Business Premier card is made for people like sample make okay, I
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guess we arguing commercial, So I'll try to turn them down here as much
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as I can. I cannot fast forward through the commercials, but we can
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kind of touch base on okay. So they covered the basics, They laid
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out the official warrant commissioned version of the story of events. So it sounds
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to me like they're gonna get ready to get into some conspiracy theories. Maybe
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it sounds like they're definitely gonna be touching on the HSCA investigation, which didn't
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indeed find that it was a probable conspiracy, despite the whole definer word probable.
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But you know, a lot of people forget about the HSCA investigation,
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especially a lot of the low nutters, and there's a lot of good information
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that came out of the HSCA. Hopefully they get into it in this thing.
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We will see. It's hard to say, but so far, I'm
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not impressed with anybody you on here, be honest with you, except Jefferson
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Morley. He has said some basic facts, nothing controversial or anything, but
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you know, stated the fact that you know that that rifle was supposedly ordered
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by Lee Harvey Oswald in the name of alec Heidel. He had fake U
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selective service credentials in the name of Alcidel and had created these Airplace for Cuba
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committee with the president of Alcidel. So you know, we'll see. I'm
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not impressed with these other folks on here though, especially Phil Shindon, but
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we'll see what he what he has to say. He might redeem himself,
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folks. You never know in the next part of the show. We'll just
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have to see. And yes, I'm currently pandering through Alexis commercial, so
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and put it on there. Put some lettuce on there, double cheese,
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take it. I'm a huge fan. All Right, I think we're almost
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back here, folks. Let's see no one used to revolt commercial free watch
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them now. Okay, we're back on. Commission releases its findings in nineteen
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sixty four. It marks the end of the official investigation into the jfk assassination.
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They find that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing President John F.
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Kennedy. Answer doesn't satisfy the public for law skeptics, great books, for
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trickle of books and then a flood of books questioning the findings of the report
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and leading to a larger district itself and in the sort of firmament of American
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government after twelve skeptics, not skeptics, researchers looking for the truthful answer.
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We are not just going to take the word of all these high falutant folks
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that are appointed to head a commission and just take their finding because they say
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so. That is some sheep like behavior, Professor, you see San Diego.
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They scrutiny the US government takes actions. How Select Committee on Assassinations was
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created in nineteen seventy six. Committee takes a closer look at the Warren's Ammission
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report. They agree with most of what the Warren Commission says, particularly regarding
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the evidence against Oswald. They're confident that Oswald did shoot Kennedy from the sixth
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floor of the book depository, but they entirely a new piece of evidence.
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Assassination researchers in Dallas came to the committee and said it may be that the
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sound of the gunshots was captured on this policeman's radio recording. So the committee
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has multiple acoustic experts go over this recording, and upon first listen, they
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think, actually, there weren't three shots as previously thought. A four.
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Three shots did in fact come from the Texas School Book Depository, but that
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one shot came from a grassy knoll in front of them. Kaden Very number
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two, Oswald didn't act alone, and if he didn't act alone, someone
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planned this killing with him, and if so, who was it. The
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House Committee word that will become connected to the Kennedy assassination from then add the
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word they use is conspiracy. So the audio evidence that seems to point to
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a conspiracy is later disputed, and in many minds it is found to be
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completely in error. It's almost too late to put the toothpaste back in the
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tube. That the idea of conspiracy is now even further cemented in the minds
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and millions of Americans. If the JFK okay, Phil Shannon way to back
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walk the HSCA committee findings. You know, they had the the best of
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the best audio experts analyzing this acoustical evidence and determining what they found to be
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the case. And you can just throw all that away by saying, well,
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people disagree with it, so it doesn't mean anything. Okay, sure,
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think pal that's a cruel and shocking act votes and that what we call
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an ironic fun by your boy, Big bad Bob. Here we go,
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Americans. If the JFK assassination is a conspiracy, who's behind it? Almost
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immediately after the shooting, one conspiracy theory rises to the top. So while
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there's only circumstantial evidence to prove it, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence.
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Even Lyndon Johnson did at some point making a side to an ABC News reporter
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that he believed that Fidel Castro orchestrated the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
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Why is Fidel Castro suspect? Let's start with motives. At the time of
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the assassination, there's no foreign power with a bigger grudge against Kennedy than Castro.
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President Kennedy is so determined to get rid of Castro that he tells the
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CIA to go forward with an invasion of Cuba that becomes known as the Bay
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of Pigs operation. They send Cuban exiles into Cuba with the CIA support two
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Castro. It's a debacle and afterwards, certainly all right, time out of
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time outs. Kennedy inherited the Bay of Pigs. He did not want to
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turn this into a what could potentially be World War three by providing official government
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backed war machines to destroy Cuba, which easily could have happened, you know,
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anytime. We could have taken out Cuba in the blink of an eye.
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But then again you have Russia standing behind Cuba, so the Russians would
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see this as an affront, an attack on communism and their allies, and
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Russia would have to strike back, and then we would have to strike back
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at Russia, and then all hell is going to break loose. So you
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know, they say President Kennedy was held bent on getting rid of Castro.
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That's not true. It's just simply not true. He was trying to have
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back channel conversations with Castro. You know, people are talking about Castro like
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he's a monster. Okay. Many people were imprisoned in Castro prisons. They
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did things directly, you know, against Castro, and they were released by
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Castro. Now sure a lot of them ended up in front of the firing
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squad had killed but you know, in a revolution, those things are going
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to happen. And I'm sure in in Castro's eyes it was well deserved.
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But it's it's not like he just lynes people having killed him like a monster,
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like like you know, some Hitler esque tight dude. Um. And
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you know, behind the scenes, the CIA was behind the Bay of Pigs.
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It was a fiasco, okay. And in the ensuing years, the
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CI kept trying to kill Castro despite the Kennedy's not wanting them to do.
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So. You know, when the CIA enlist the help of the mafia,
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okay, to kill Castro, and Bobby Kennedy is trying trying to prosecute La
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Cosa Nostra in the Supreme and you know, in the in the in the
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biggest judicial course of the world. Um, all they have to do is
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say, look, why are you busting my balls? The boys over the
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CIA, it was undred thousand dollars to go take care of Castro for it.
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We're on the same side here, we're working for you, So why
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you busting our balls? Let's continue. Certainly Castro knows that President Kennedy so
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determined to remove him from power that he had actually ordered an invasion of his
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country. Documents that are later declassified reveal more evidence. After the Bay of
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Pigs invasion fails, the Kennedy administration, through the CIA, tried to kill
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Castro in the most exotic of ways, everything from poisons cigars to poisoned skin
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diving. Home boy, it's not the Kennedy's calling the shots here. Do
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you understand that Bobby was pissed that the CIA was using mafia figures to try
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to assassinate Castro. Sure they may have said, okay, CIA, do
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what you gotta do, but they didn't know that they were going to be
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enlisting the help of mafia figures to do it. That's the stupidest movie.
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You Come on, see I. You don't have some badass CIA secret agents
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that can take care of this shit on your own. You gotta, you
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know, you gotta pay the mafia to do it. Do you dirty work
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for you? Come on, come on, skin diving suits to excluding seashells.
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But yes, certainly Castro knew the presidency was plotting against him, So
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we know that Fidel Castro has reason to want to see President Kennedy did.
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And the qu all the years since is what roll to Lee Harvey Oswall play
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in whatever plots to try to kill the president. During their investigation, Warren
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Commission conducts a thorough background check on Oswald, even when he's serving in the
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Marine Corps for three years. Lee Harvey Oswald is not shy about the fact
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that he's a Marxist, so much so's colleagues in the Marine Corps used to
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refer to him as Oswaldovitch. In nineteen fifty nine, he defects to the
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Soviet Union and marries nineteen year old Soviet citizen Marina Prusakova, and they have
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a child. They live there until nineteen sixty two in an apartment just a
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few blocks away from where the Soviets are training Cuban spies and soldiers mag in
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the US. In April of nineteen sixty three, Oswald goes down to New
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Orleans. There he tries to start up a pro Castro activist group. It's
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clear that Oswald likes communism, but the biggest revelation for investigators is that it
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turns out that Oswald went to Mexico City in September of nineteen sixty three,
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which of course is just two months before JFK's assassination. Oswald's not pro communism,
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He's a Marxist, okay. He was protesting the way that we,
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the United States and the rest of the world as a nation, are treating
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Cuba for trying to do things fair way. You know, there's a there's
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a major, some major subter huge going on here to disrupt the economy of
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Cuba. There's some major things going on and bargoes and the like and uh
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denial of of exports, and you know, they're they're purposely making life really
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really hard for Cuba and Fidel Castro to thrive. And that is what Oswald
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is protesting. And while there had contact with officials at the Cuban embassy.
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According to author Gus Russo, during these meetings, Oswald makes a chilling offer.
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Russo talks to various sources, including an FBI case officer who has two
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high level informants within the Communist Party, and these two informants are two brothers
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by the names of Morris and Jack Childs. The Child's brothers meet with Fidel
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Castro after the Kennedy assassination and learned just how much Fidel Castro knew about Lee
35:25
Harvey Oswald and the weeks before the assassination. According to Russell's research, Oswald
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tells embassy officials, I'll kill that bastard Kennedy. When he goes to Dallas,
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Castro is immediately informed about this. The embassy staff calls him up and
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they ask him what do we do. Castro denies taking Oswald up on his
35:45
offer. I don't think there's any credible evidence that Fidel's Castro clay didn't it
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roll and ordering President Kennedy's assassination, but I think it's clear that he was
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well aware. Before the assassination, Lee Harvey Oswald had marched into a Cuban
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embassy in Mexico City and made the statement that he was going to kill Kennedy,
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Russo keeps digging. Russo speaks to some former Okay, Oswald did not
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march into the Cuban embassy and claim that he was going to kill Kennedy.
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This allegedly happened in the Soviet embassy in Mexico City, and he was more
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worried about the FBI hounding him to death and him wanting to go back to
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Russia, or him wanting to go to Cuba and then back to Russia.
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So let's continue with the story they're creating here. Cuban spies that tell him
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that when Oswald makes this offer, they actually encourage him. One officer tells
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Russo that they offer Oswald money and then tell him that they'll help him evacuate
36:53
if he's successful doing this. Oswald's end goals to get a visa to get
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either to Cuba or to the Soviet Union or both, and eventually the Cubans
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do give him some form of temporary visa in October of nineteen sixty three.
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But according to Russo's findings, they don't actually intend to bring Oswald to Cuba.
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They plan to pick him up from kill him, and then dump his
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body. In the Gulf of Mexico. According to Gus Russo, there's more
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evidence to support this claim. Okay, Russo finds report private plane sitting on
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an airfield in Dallas on November twenty second. That plane takes off for Havana
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after the assassination. As we know, Oswald is not on that plane,
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but that might be where he's headed when he encounters Officer Tippet and the entire
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Cuban plan changes after that. So that's the theory. The Warren Commission and
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also the later House Committee on Assassinations dismissed the idea that Castro or the Cuban
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government could have been responsible for the killing of JFK. And today Oswald,
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Castro, Johnson, they're all dead. So I see any hopes of proving
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this theory are gone. Coming up investigators dig up evidence of a different master
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mind. Is the Soviet Union life by Premier Nikita Krushchev involved in JFK's assassination?
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Otherwise, why is Oswald meeting with a KGB assassination's expert? What really
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became a black beard? Oh? My lord, my lord, my lord.
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So we go from Castro being behind the assassination, the next is going
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to be Ruschev and Russia. I can't wait for that. But I'm not
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going to pander my way through commercials this time. I'm gonna pause it and
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we'll come back after the commercials. It'll only be like a second for you
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guys, but an eternity for me. Here we go, all right,
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we're back. So Harvey Oswald visits Mexico City in the fall of nineteen sixty
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three. Investigators are desperate to know what he's up to. He makes several
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visits to the Cuban Embassy. What happens there are the Cubans involved? You
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have to ask, right, But the Cuban Embassy isn't the only place Oswald
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visits in Mexico. While in Mexico City, he also goes to the Soviet
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Embassy in his quest for a visa, and he ends up kind of bouncing
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back and forth between the Cuban Embassy and the Soviet Embassy. So Oswald,
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in visiting the Soviet Embassy, is taken to meet with a Valerie Kostakov.
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Oswald has one meeting on September twenty eighth with Kostakov, and they have a
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subsequent telephone conversation on October one authorities dig into Kostakov's background and they make a
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chilling discovery. Valerie Kostakov is actually a KGB agent and a KGB assassinations expert.
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Doesn't that suggest that this man, Lee Harvey Oswald get is up to
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no good? So that leads us to the next big question, which is
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is the Soviet Union led by Premier Nikita Krushev involved ujk assassinations. Let me
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pause here and just say it's not out of the Roman possibility that Lee Harvey
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Oswald wasn't even in Mexico City at all, and that he was impersonated by
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someone claiming to be Lee Harvey Oswald, and the US authorities at the time
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weren't scrambling to figure out who this guy was. They were simply conducting routine
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maintenance and reporting them on what they found. It was not until after the
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assassination that all hell broke loose and they were backtracking and trying to figure things
40:34
out. As we all know through great spy movies and CIA lore, that
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most employees of foreign embassies are the CIA agents. Okay, so it's not
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out of the Roman possibility that four employees of their respective embassies and consulates are
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their own intelligence assets in place, and at the time Mexico City was a
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very important hub for intelligence. So with that being said, Lute back to
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the theory that Kennedy was killed by Krushchev, which is horseshit. But here
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we go, sus Chef may have a motive to kill Kennedy. That's just
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as strong as Fidelcastros. So we know Kennedy is on a crusade against communism,
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and Communism is represented on the world stage by its biggest superpower, the
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USSR. Premier. Khrushchev is trying to promote revolution and communism around the world
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and JFK is trying to do the exact opposite. So these two are pitted
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against each other political level, and unfortunately for JFKA, ninety miles from the
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Florida coastline, the Soviets have a communist nation in the form of Cuba.
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Communist Cuba would not have happened without the Soviets. They give the Cubans,
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training, financial and military support. Fastro's victory is also a victory for Khrushchev.
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Then, in nineteen sixty two krushchev experience is a very public defeat thanks
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to President Kennedy. A year before Kennedy's death, the United States and the
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Soviet Unit had almost gone to warden when the Soviet Union attempts to set up
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missile launchpads in Cuba that can be used for nuclear Wessex. Kennedy isn't okay
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with Soviet nukes ninety miles away, and this begins what's known as the Cuban
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Missile Crisis, which ultimately, after a lot of back and forth political posturing,
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Kennedy wins. Two years later, in nineteen sixty four, Khrushchev is
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removed from office. Before he's removed in nineteen sixty three, Khrushchev is still
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clinging to power, looking for a way to redeem himself among the Communists.
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That would certainly add some logic to the idea that maybe the kru Chef launted
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to see Kennedy did. If Oswald walks right into the embassy and offers to
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kill Kennedy and Dallas, maybe the Soviets go for it. Otherwise, why
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is he meeting with a KGB assassinations expert. There is an even further out
43:23
theory, which is that Krushchev started plotting to kill Kennedy even before the Mexico
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City Machinations author and attorney Michael Edo. So just to put this into some
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perspective, Okay, William Harvey, he was basically our version of the Cie
43:43
James Bond and the literal opponent of the z R rifle program, runner of
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QJ. Wynn. So anybody that talked to William Harvey should automatically be suspect.
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Is that that That's what you're saying here, Like Harvey would have been
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stationed in Say, Harvey was stationed in Rome at the at the Italian Embassy
44:15
or the US Embassy in Rome. So anybody that went there and talked to
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him should automatically be suspect because he is the assassination expert for the United States
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CIA. Okay, Now that's just where he was stationed, because like Mexico
44:31
City is where OSTA confess station and it just so happens that's where allegedly Lee
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Harvey, Oswald or an impostor went. Let's continue. Micolettos here's details of
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his investigation. In the nineteen seventy seven booked The Oswald Five, Michelettos comes
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up with this theory that Krushev conceives of this plot to kill Kennedy. Why
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and Oswald is still living in the Soviet Union. Beginning in nineteen fifty nine,
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Khruscheff realizes he's got a golden opportunity on his hands. Here. He's
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got an American citizens, former marine, an avowed communist who speaks Russian,
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and everybody knows he's there in the USSR. The Associated Press had reported on
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his defection. Bados believes that Krushcheff detains and kills Oswald while in the Yossar,
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then replaces him with a KGB agent, someone who looks very similar.
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So it's not Lee Harvey Oswald who lands back in the United States in nineteen
45:35
sixty two. It's an impostor whose mission it is to kill John F.
45:38
Kennedy. Edos believes he has definitive proof that Oswald was replaced. On his
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marine records, Oswald is listed as being five to eleven, but that the
45:50
person who killed Kennedy is actually five foot nine. The original Oswald also had
45:55
a cranial operation as a child, leaving him with an indentation behind his ear
46:00
and a dime size hole in his skull, but according to Edos, the
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autopsy on the Kennedy assassin shows no such features. Does, however, showed
46:08
the assassin has a large scar on his wrist, which Edos notes the original
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Oswald did not have. His argument persuades the Texas courts and Oswald's widow,
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Marina, to have his body exhumed, So this is huge news. Edos
46:24
has managed to convince authorities and Lee Harvey Oswald's widow that there's something to this
46:30
theory. So in nineteen eighty one they dig up the body and it's in
46:35
an advanced state of decomposition. Edos and widow Marina Oswald agree to have the
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Dallas County medical Examiner Linda Norton do the examination. Doctor Norton is able to
46:46
match dental records and also identify the evidence of the childhood cranial surgery, which
46:53
together show that actually the body in the grave really is that of Lee Harvey
46:58
Oswald. So Cruceswald with another killer. That much we know. But the
47:04
Soviet conspiracy theory is still alive and well, because it doesn't prove that Oswald
47:08
himself didn't work with the USSR to plan and execute the assassination of John F.
47:14
Kennada. But that's not what the Huse Committee says in their nineteen seventy
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six report, they find that neither the Cubans nor the Soviets are behind the
47:22
assassination, but they do think that somebody else could be involved. Coming up
47:30
good fresh evidence point to a new loker. Russo testifies that he remembers them
47:35
saying that they were going to kill Kennedy and that they were going to use
47:37
something called the triangulation of shooters. Here we go. Stay tuned. We'll
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be back to the window this way after the brain years. One detail in
47:49
the JFK investigation remains undisputed. Lee Harvey, we are back, and why
47:55
they wasted time on astro eye and the Russian theory? I don't know.
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Well, let's see what the next one's all about on a roll of folks
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Oswald. Recently declassified intelligence reports revealed that the KGB does their own investigation into
48:13
Oswald. They have him under very tight surveillance from the moment he enters the
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USSR show a lot of intelligence on him, and according to the KGB report,
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contrary to what we've all been led to leave, Oswald stops being a
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communist sympathizer. The KGB reports that over his time in the Soviet Union,
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Oswald actually becomes disillusioned with the cause, and by the time he leaves in
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nineteen sixty two, he is not a communist anymore. This goes against decades
48:42
of conventional thinking about Oswald and the assassination. If he's not a communist,
48:45
then who killed JFK So KGB does believe that Oswald killed Kennedy. They do
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say that they think he's part of a conspiracy. It's just not the conspiracy
48:55
you think. So. Instead, the KGB theory is that Oswald is part
49:00
of a militant anti communist conspiracy group whose intent is to poison relations between the
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Soviet Union and the United States by killing Kennedy and framing the Communists for it.
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Kruscheff will say in an interview of nineteen sixty four that in fact,
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Oswald was working with extremist anti communists. Many wonder if this theory is simply
49:22
Soviet propaganda. Of course, Kruscheff wants to take suspicion off himself, but
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independently of the KGB, a US investigator also looks into this theory. Jim
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Garrison, the District Attorney of New Orleans, comes to believe that a murky
49:38
conspiracy involving business leaders and Lee Harvey Oswald's has brought together all these right wing
49:44
anti communist elements to kill JFK. To prove his theory, Garrison spends six
49:50
years interviewing witnesses through the nineteen sixties. Jim Garrison's investigation leads to a man
49:57
by the name of David Ferry. Back in the nineteen fifties, David Ferry
50:01
serves in the Civil Air Patrol, which also has as a member Lee Harvey
50:06
Oswald. Dave Ferry was rapidly anti communist and heavily involved in the anti Castro
50:12
movement in New Orleans. So you might be thinking, now, wait a
50:15
minute, someone who's anti Castro should like Kennedy. But David Ferry was disappointed
50:22
in Kennedy for not being staunch enough in their opposition to Castro. He thinks
50:28
that Kennedy's attempts at a peaceful outcome are weak, that he's essentially handed Cuba
50:32
to the communists. In fact, he gives a fiery speech in nineteen sixty
50:37
one where he says that Kennedy should be shot. According to Garrison, Ferry
50:42
follows through with that threat in September of nineteen sixty three, a few weeks
50:46
before the assassination of JFK, insurance agent named Perry Russell, which state that
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he was at a party with a businessman from New Orleans name Clay Shaw,
50:57
Lee Harvey Oswald, and David Ferry where the assassination of JFK would be discussed.
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Russo testifies that he remembers them saying that they were going to kill Kennedy
51:07
and that they were going to use something called a triangulation of shooters. They
51:12
also discussed alibis for the people involved in his conspiracy. By February of nineteen
51:16
sixty seven, Garrison is ready to reveal his finding. Newspapers in New Orleans
51:22
breakie Garrison's story. He's convinced that David Ferry and Lee Harvey Oswald are longtime
51:29
friends since their days together in the Civil Air Patrol. He believes they want
51:32
to take out Kennedy and frame the communists. David Ferry and Lee Harvey Oswald
51:38
work together to plan the assassination with the support of Clay Shaw and the help
51:43
of another man kind of scenes named Guy Banister. Ferry and Banister were both
51:47
adamant supporters of the anti Castro movement, which included arming people to go stage
51:52
attacks in Cuban, and Ferry as a pilot was moving the weapons and Banister
51:59
was supplying them. So these men did have a hard right background that involved
52:02
guns. Garrison was certainly correct about that. Garrison's theory has Banister and Ferry
52:10
as the brains behind this operation. Quaishaw would be handling logistics and financial backing.
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And then in this scenario there are two shooters involved in a cross fire,
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Oswald as we know in the book depository, and then another un named
52:23
shooter on the grassy knolls, armed with the evidence Garrison's ready for his day
52:30
in court Oswald has already did. And then Banisters died of a heart attack
52:35
by nineteen sixty four, so there are already two alleged conspirators billing. Then
52:40
something more unusual happens less than a week after the Garrison investigation goes public.
52:46
Dave Ferry. This found did. David Ferry is found in his apartment with
52:52
two typed up suicide notes, but the autopsy finds no evidence either of suicide
52:59
or of murder, and that David Ferry has died of a brain hemorrhage Garrison
53:02
is flumeexed. He says, I suppose it could be just a weird coincidence
53:07
that the night Ferry penns two suicide notes. He dies of natural causes on
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March first, nineteen sixty seven. Alleged co conspirator alive is arrested. Clay
53:19
Shaw is finally tried in nineteen sixty nine, and it remains the only trial
53:23
in American history associated with the assassination of JFK. But Garrison is unsuccessful,
53:29
with a few witnesses remaining alive and others deemed unreliable. Shaw is quitted in
53:35
forty five minutes. Ten years later, in nineteen seventy nine, the House
53:39
Select Committee wonders publicly if justice was served. The House Committee's final reports states
53:45
that they believe the Louisiana witnesses were both quote credible and significance, and that
53:51
they were telling the truth about Ferry and Oswald's meetings in nineteen sixty three.
53:55
So Garrison's theories paused for a lot of sensational report and a lot of excitement
54:00
on the part of the public, and you know, maybe swayed some people
54:04
in the court of public opinion. In actual court where evidence is required.
54:07
They were found to fall apart pretty quickly. Coming up was JFK's assassination motivated
54:15
by politics or something more peaceful in the minds of some mobsters. Kennedy took
54:21
a billion dollars. They've killed for a lot less. All right, well,
54:27
we know where this is going. But as far as where we just
54:30
were in New Orleans, I believe that was a very cave down version of
54:42
the Garrison investigation. My god, this History Channel stuff is just unbelievable,
54:51
unfreaking believable. All right, next up, I'm guessing it's going to be
54:59
the mafia. Here we go, Congress Mafia. In nineteen ninety two,
55:07
the Act mandates the release of all files relating to the case. So even
55:10
all these decades later, people still want answers and are now hopeful that maybe
55:15
we'll start to get them. These documents aren't released all at once, but
55:20
during the nineteen nineties, millions and mulligents of pages of documents are made public.
55:23
The law had a deadline. It said that everything in the government's files
55:29
had to be made public in twenty seventeen. Well, guess what, that
55:32
does not happen, But by twenty seventeen, tens of thousands of records have
55:37
been released, and one of them it's a lot of attention because it appears
55:42
to confirm a longstanding theory that the mafia was involved in the assassination of JFK.
55:49
From the moment Kennedy dies, conspiracy theorists are asking the right question,
55:53
which is who wants him dead? The Communists in a lot of minds feature
55:57
really high on that list. But there's another group who might want Kennedy dead
56:00
even more, and that is the Gazanosta, the American Mafia. In nineteen
56:06
sixty two, JFK, along with his brothers Attorney General Robert Kennedy, are
56:12
on a crusade to wipe out organized crime in America. One of the biggest
56:15
revenue streams the mob had, obviously, where are the casinos in Cuba.
56:20
The mob was kicked out of Cuba by Castro, so they were angry with
56:24
President Kennedy for not having done more. So they wanted to see Castro overthrown
56:29
so they could get back into Cuba, reopened their casinos and their liquor operations
56:34
and get going again. And one way of doing that might be by killing
56:37
President Kennedy. In the minds of some mobsters. Kennedy took billions of dollars
56:42
out of their podcasts, and they have killed for a lot less. Well,
56:45
what don't you know it, Right in the middle of the Kennedy case,
56:47
there's a man who could be the key to a mafia connection. That
56:52
man is Lee Harvey Oswald's killer, Jack Jack Ruby. Jerk Ruby was a
56:57
tough guy from Chicago. Jack Rubinstein originally a thug him moves to Dallas,
57:05
opens up his nightclub there and quickly becomes a kind of fixture among organized crime
57:09
figures. He was what you would call a wannabe. He gets these nightclubs
57:14
up and running, and they become a conduit for all the things we know
57:16
the mafia, for gambling, running, narcotics, and eventually sex work.
57:22
Serious long speculated the Jack Ruby and the mafia worked together to kill Kennedy.
57:27
They say by nineteen sixty three, Jack Ruby is heavily indebted to the mafia,
57:31
and they forced him to find a patsy to assassinate the president, and
57:35
afterwards they make him kill that fall guy so that he can't talk. A
57:39
lot more evidence came out in the nineteen seventies with the House Select Committee investigation,
57:44
and that strengthened the notion that there was an organized crime connection to the
57:47
assassination. Did Ruby hire Oswald on behalf of the mafia? Dallas police have
57:53
two witnesses report that on October fourth, nineteen sixty three, seven weeks before
57:59
the assination, they see Ruby and Oswald meet and Ruby's Carousel Club on Tomers
58:04
Street and Dallas. There they argue over a large sum of money for an
58:08
undisclosed job that Oswald will be doing for Ruby. But the Warren Commission fails
58:14
to interview these witnesses. After he's arrested, Ruby denies ever having known Oswald
58:20
and that he didn't know beforehand that the assassination was going to happen. Ruby
58:23
says that he was who are these witnesses, Beverly Oliver, I don't know,
58:35
walks away, busy placing some newspaper ads, and killed Oswald because of
58:39
grief, because of patriotism, and because he felt for the first lady and
58:44
wanted to keep her from having to suffer through a prolonged trial for over fifty
58:49
years. No one can prove otherwise. But then in twenty seventeen, as
58:53
part of another large dump of deep classified Kennedy files. We see document three
58:59
two one, four nine, two six seven. It's a report from the
59:02
FBI's Intelligence Division about Jack Ruby. In it, an informant named Bob Vander
59:07
Slice says that Ruby calls him up on the day of the assassination. He
59:12
asks if he quote would like to watch the fireworks Sanderslice goes with Ruby to
59:17
a location right across from the Texas school Book Depository and together if they watched
59:22
the president get shot. When it happens, Ruby says nothing. He just
59:27
turns calmly and walks south towards the newspaper office, where he places the ads
59:30
and thereby creates an alibi. If this is true, then Jack Ruby knew
59:37
they were going to be quote fire works, and he knew exactly where and
59:39
when the assassination was going to happen. In other words, Ruby lied,
59:44
and he knew about the whole thing. After months in custody, Ruby himself
59:49
claims there's more to his story. At first, Ruby six with alibi,
59:53
but then he changes his tune. He writes letters, he makes statements to
59:58
police, and then even test suffies to the Warren Commission that he knows some
1:00:01
things he's not saying. When he believes that his life is in danger,
1:00:06
he wants to tell the whole truth, but he can't unless he can get
1:00:08
some protection from the government. But he never gets that protection, and he
1:00:13
dies in nineteen sixty seven, taking with him to the grave any potential secrets
1:00:16
about a mafia assassination plot. Some believe that members of the mafia worked quickly
1:00:22
to cover their tracks after JFK's death. Over a dozen witnesses and participants die
1:00:29
mysteriously in the aftermath of the shooting. Oswald Ruby Dorothy Kilgallen. She's the
1:00:35
only reporter to interview Jack Ruby at his trial. She then openly questions the
1:00:38
Warren Commission, and then dies of a mysterious overdose in nineteen sixty five.
1:00:44
So, following this trail of murders, it reaches its apex in nineteen sixty
1:00:50
Just in aside here, Okay, she didn't so much interview Jack Ruby.
1:00:57
Has just talked to him in the courtroom, And if she had anything newsworthy,
1:01:04
she would have printed it before she died in nineteen sixty five. That's
1:01:07
all I'm saying. They're trying to make another conspiracy out of another conspiracy out
1:01:13
of another conspiracy. I don't believe killed yell a new ship, but here
1:01:17
we go. It's when Robert F. Kennedy, who also could be seen
1:01:22
as an enemy of the afia, is killed in Los Angeles. What kind
1:01:25
of organization would be willing to leave behind such a long string of bodies to
1:01:30
keep hold of their power and their secrets. The mafia thought too, and
1:01:35
if they did, then it worked because there is no one left to confirm
1:01:38
this theory coming up? What if JFK's killers was much closer to oh enemies
1:01:47
high in his own government in the CIA, and Tentagun wanted to kill the
1:01:52
president. So there there was your mafia. And I'm guessing next up it's
1:02:01
going to be Alan Dullissen the CIA. So stay tuned for that one and
1:02:12
we'll be right back. Oliver Stone's film about the Kennedy assassination is released in
1:02:19
theaters almost immediately it causes an uproar. The film combines a number of conspiracy
1:02:25
theories, including the alleged New Orleans plot and the second shooter on the Grassy
1:02:30
Knold. But more important than the film's plot is the impact that has just
1:02:37
an aside here I hope these folks realize that the Oliver Stone movie JFK is,
1:02:43
of course, hey Hollywood movie and not a documentary. But I digress,
1:02:50
Here we Go has on this country. After the film was released,
1:02:55
we see a tidal wave of other publications associated with the JFK assassination, including
1:03:01
one from a man who says he was directly involved. Robert Morrow claimed to
1:03:07
be a former CIA operative active in the anti Castrol movement in the nineteen sixties,
1:03:13
and he alleged in a book that he was asked by Tracy Barnes,
1:03:16
a senior CIA official, to buy guns that he said or later used in
1:03:22
the assassination. Morrow's cast of characters in the alleged CIA plot might sound familiar.
1:03:30
Morrel actually names the same co conspirators that are in the movie JFK,
1:03:35
and also those that were pursued by Jim Garrison in his New Orleans case.
1:03:39
He claims that Clayshaw, Guy Banister, and Dave Ferry were helping in the
1:03:45
operations against Castro in Cuba before the assassinations. Morrel says they also enlisted the
1:03:52
help of the mafia through Jack Ruby. A November twenty second in Dallas,
1:03:55
they placed four shooters Oswald in the Book Depository, other on the Grassy Knoll,
1:04:00
and two more, all with Morrow's rifles. The month prior they laid
1:04:04
some groundwork, they sent Oswald to Mexico to meet with the Cubans. Their
1:04:09
goal is to frame Castro for the crime and therefore bring about a full scale
1:04:15
invasion of Cuba for you tomorrow. The CIA wants redemption from their failed Bay
1:04:19
of Pigs operation, and the mafia has hopes to be able returned to reopener
1:04:25
casinos in Cuba. It's quite a story, a complicated CIA plot with dozens
1:04:30
of participants, and yet with all those people, including government agents and known
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criminals that are under surveillance, the Warren Commission finds no evidence that any of
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this actually happened. Morrow offers a potential explanation for that as well. Many
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have speculated that the Warren Commission never adequately looked into the Cuban connection or the
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CIA. Morrow believe is that that's due to the presence on the commission of
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the former CIA director Alan Dullas. When the commission is formed, they don't
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the current CIA director on it, or anyone from the NBI. The only
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one on the Commission with intelligence experience is Alan Dullas, who just happens to
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be the man that Kennedy fired from his position after the Bay of Pigs failed.
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At the time of the war Informission, CIA involvement in the Bay of
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Pigs is classified. The government didn't want that getting out. They also didn't
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want any information getting out related to Operation Months, which the time was top
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secret, but we now know was that Kennedy's sanctioned CIA operation to assassinate Castro,
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led by Alan Dullas. Some more documents have been declassified. More information
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has been revealed about the CIA. It is clear that they were withholding information
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on the Warrant Commission, information that Alan Dullas knew and kept hidden. Some
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theorists believe that information could have even saved Kennedy's life. In twenty thirteen and
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twenty fourteen, some very damaging records are released about the CIA. As per
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the jaf K records that they revealed that the CIA actually knew about Oswald's trip
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two Mexico City before the assassination. The agency claimed to the Warren Commission that
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they only found out afterwards. That was a lie. They had an eye
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at Oswald since his defection to the ussart they were reading his mail, tracking
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his movements. The CIA field office in Mexico City reported Oswald's meeting with the
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Cubans almost immediately, and the CIA had Soviet agent Valerie Kostokov under surveillance during
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the time he was meeting with Oswald. Does that mean the CIA killed Kennedy?
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No, absolutely not. But should the CIA have known that Oswald was
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a threat? Yes, they probably should have, and could an earlier intervention
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have prevented Oswald from killing the president again? I would say the answer is
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yes. In a now declassified twenty thirteen EVVVV please learn the word allegedly,
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thank you, CIA historian David Robarst finds that the agency is complicit in keeping
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incendiary information from the Warren Commission. He says they intended to keep the commission
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focused on quote, what the agency believed was the best truth, that Lee
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Harvey Oswald had acted alone in killing John Kennedy. I think all of the
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most credible evidence suggests that Lee Harvey Oswald fired the bullets that killed President Kennedy,
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that he probably is the only gunman. But whether or not other people
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knew, whether or not this is Phil Shinnin. By the way, those
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are mysteries that will probably lingered forever. The National Archives recently released thousands of
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newly declassified documents. Now almost all of these nearly five million pages are available
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to the public. Perhaps they will provide some closure to this enduring mystery.
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I'm Laurence Fishburn. Thank you for watching Histories Greatest Mysteries. Oh all right,
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folks, So there you have it, the History Channel's Histories Greatest Mysteries.
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Not impressed. Not a fan. Well, I'm a fan of ev
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pompers, but that's besides the point. For different reasons. Um not impressed
1:08:33
with the cast of characters they had on here to speak about this. Obviously,
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there was a narrative story that they wanted to weave in and out of
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here. Obviously. This is why I would never ever acquiesced to doing some
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thing like this for an entity like the History Channel or any kind of mainstream
1:09:04
television news outlet, because I guarantee you that they interviewed Jefferson Morley David Denton.
1:09:17
There's are really the only two quote conspiracy guys that are in this thing
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for hours about a myriad excuse me, of different topics and then they cherry
1:09:30
picked and chose who they went with for certain scenarios for the story that they're
1:09:41
telling. Now, these these podcasters and professors and you know, God to
1:09:46
bless her heart, eb pumps, why they chose them to bring them into
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this conversation. I don't know if they thought they would be good parents or
1:09:59
something. This I mean and Phil Shinnon, that's a that's a no brainer.
1:10:02
Why to bring that guy in there? But so he'll tear the companyline
1:10:05
and the official narrative for sure. But even though you might mean, well,
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you know, in the end, you're contributing to a piece of shit,
1:10:20
a piece of dying DINGI doh shit. I wouldn't even waste my time.
1:10:30
It's not even worth the effort. Because when you have something like this
1:10:34
that propagates itself as some kind of a conspiracy, edgy, unsolved mystery,
1:10:41
you know, type of thing, but in reality, there is a narrative
1:10:46
flowing through the hour special that we just listened to, and that is basically
1:10:55
throwing up ridiculous theories in your face to show how ridiculous expiracy theories and theorists
1:11:01
are debunking, you know, an official investigation. And then you know,
1:11:11
and the Garrison investigation just out of hand. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
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And you know, sitting here and say that we should be happy enough to
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get what we got out of their JFK records released and not demand because I'm
1:11:27
sure, I'm sure Morley had a lot more to say on this subject than
1:11:30
they let him say. In fact, I don't even think he got to
1:11:32
address the JFK Records Act portion of this. But according to the other folks,
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you know, hey, they've released five million records and we should be
1:11:43
thankful for that. And you know, in these records, you know,
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this is what things were said, and this is what we can glean from
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it, and blah la la la lah. You know when, in fact,
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that whole Jack Ruby and Fireworks thing that's been around since the nineties,
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it wasn't just some miraculous, miraculously released thing in twenty seventeen. So,
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you know, I just don't know where all that's coming from. I apologize
1:12:14
if there is a weird metallic kind of undertone to the way I am speaking
1:12:19
and the way you're hearing me. I don't know exactly what it is with
1:12:27
the set up here. Maybe I've got something too close together or something else,
1:12:30
I don't know, but in any effect, I hope you know you
1:12:36
enjoyed the show, and I just wanted to highlight that as a another example
1:12:44
of the mainstream media and mainstream TV outlets perverting and distorting conspiracy research into the
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assassination. And this is what average Joe sitting on his cow drinking a beer,
1:13:01
flipping through channels seeds. They don't see the truth. This is what
1:13:08
they see. They see what they want us to see. That's it.
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There is no you know, at least mainstream special that I've seen so far
1:13:21
that actually does it any kind of justice. But we get what we get,
1:13:27
folks, and that's the most recent of what we got. But anyway,
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that's it for this week. That that I and hopefully coming up soon
1:13:38
we're gonna have some more like I alluded to here about come on, possibly
1:13:44
two versus three bullets, Maybe some Perry Russo hypnotized sessions. I don't know,
1:13:53
depends on what I feel like doing. But anyway, follow along on
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1:14:21
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damn I got you have y'all side, No one get run down that every
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prince of the blood like the wal'm a barn and no one has to sign
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all that I could say in that rim. So you are crooning from my
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chisel all my friend brother side in my ramba, that's don't finding But I
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dare that's a shop b side. Well, I willn't always love you,
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never gone away. I will be for Rati fill my time when I was
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alone with my view never so I will be bole around and my grandma he
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was flowing from the kiss of all the friend and frother side and my grandma
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that's also faring. But the damnage that shall ever STI in my time in the town