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NFL Week 2 Cash Show | September 13, 2024 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Fall systems, going clear, the lift up, what's going on? Everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the ship at Nation Week two NFL Cash
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: Game Show, as I always joined by my guy title Toime.
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  Speaker 1: We're here to break down the cash game plays for
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  Speaker 1: Week two of the NFL season. Week one definitely success,
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  Speaker 1: pretty straightforward in terms of cash games, but with NFL,
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  Speaker 1: obviously the player pool in terms of guys playing NFL
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  Speaker 1: cash games post of some of the other sports is
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  Speaker 1: much bigger. So there's some opportunity out there for sure
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  Speaker 1: in the cash game streets. And we're not just talking
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  Speaker 1: you know, titles in the streets grinding cash games in
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  Speaker 1: basically every sport and obviously big time in NFL. So
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you guys tuning in. Titled just a couple of
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  Speaker 1: things I wanted to hit on before we kind of
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  Speaker 1: get into the plays, and there's some pretty straightforward plays
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  Speaker 1: this week, So again this could move a little bit quickly,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, any takeaways week one in terms of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the style of play from opponents that we're
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  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of dupe lineups? Are we seeing you
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of guys on one v one's two
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  Speaker 1: v twos? Is that kind of what made the difference
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  Speaker 1: in week one and any initial thoughts for week.
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  Speaker 2: Two, Yeah, there was a really really fat train. I
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  Speaker 2: was not on the train. I was a two v
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  Speaker 2: two and something to note right here, that's I a
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  Speaker 2: guess a great segue when you know you who everyone's
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  Speaker 2: playing the two v two.
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  Speaker 3: So the three twenty five game, I had Chewba Hubbard and.
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  Speaker 2: The other and Bill's defense against like neighbors and a
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  Speaker 2: punt defense in the Commanders. So I went after the
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  Speaker 2: one PM games, Tuba was Caroline is the worst team
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  Speaker 2: of all time, Like I can't even be on, Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't even want to go down that road again.
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  Speaker 2: But he had one point four, Neighbors had ten, Bill's
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  Speaker 2: d had five. So I saw the Chalk team. They
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  Speaker 2: had the same guys, they had Rashad White left, and
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  Speaker 2: they had a defense which didn't really matter. So I
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  Speaker 2: was blocked out to cash a fat train. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even want to count all the people you
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  Speaker 2: could keep scrolling and they all had the same team.
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  Speaker 3: So what did I do? I had two pivots.
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  Speaker 2: I this is why you put your last player the
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  Speaker 2: time in your flex spot, so I had multiple options.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't just I could pivot to a receiver, tight
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  Speaker 2: end or any position instead of just a running back.
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  Speaker 3: And the two options there were Kenneth Walker and Godin.
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  Speaker 2: I told myself, if Rashad White bus the best chance
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  Speaker 2: is probably they throw the ball instead Godwin catches, then
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  Speaker 2: White doesn't. I can get direct leverage off of Mega
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  Speaker 2: chalk and I do. Just need to get past this
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  Speaker 2: train and I'll cash. So I global swapped all my
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  Speaker 2: White to Godwin, drawing pretty much. It's not you're not
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  Speaker 2: ever drawing dead, but the odds were definitely against me.
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  Speaker 3: I need a little gutter ball. We're talking a little
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  Speaker 3: poker pre show.
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  Speaker 2: Needed some help on the river on my and Chris
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  Speaker 2: Godwin absolutely got some help on the river huge train.
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  Speaker 2: All I needed to bump was Godwin to outscore White
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  Speaker 2: by whatever it was, six points. The defense getting negative
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  Speaker 2: helped big train. I get zero point two points over
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  Speaker 2: I would have won it all. I beat them by
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  Speaker 2: like three points. Was a great day there. It was
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  Speaker 2: bad on FanDuel. It was negative overall. But to answer
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  Speaker 2: your questions, yes, I saw a lot of trains week one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it is important, especially if if you're someone
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  Speaker 1: that primarily focuses on cash games. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: think swapping only for you know, GPPs in large field stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but cash game it's super important. In One thing that
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  Speaker 1: you said that definitely stands out is when you're able
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  Speaker 1: to predict what your opponents have, which in this scenario
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  Speaker 1: is you know, somewhat obvious. I mean you're grinding these
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  Speaker 1: lineups and potential combinations leading up to Locke and you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably all week, so you kind of know what people
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  Speaker 1: are going to be on. So when you see that team,
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  Speaker 1: you know what they have left. Gives you the ability
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  Speaker 1: to make that change. But again a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: aren't looking, so that's definitely one thing to keep in mind.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're not necessarily ever dead. I mean yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so some scenarios, yeah you are dead if you're one
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  Speaker 1: PM Eastern guys fully bust and whatnot. But if you
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  Speaker 1: know you're you're somewhat close, and you know, making the
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  Speaker 1: change can be a massive, massive change in terms of
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  Speaker 1: you know what you can return on the week instead
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  Speaker 1: of just like giving up. So it is important to
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  Speaker 1: at least give yourself a chance. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 1: you know, that scenario that you just laid out is
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  Speaker 1: probably very unlikely that you end up passing that the
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  Speaker 1: proper scenario played out and you're able to put yourself
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  Speaker 1: in a position to do much better than you would have.
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  Speaker 1: So it's definitely important if you're playing cash games, head
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  Speaker 1: to heads, fifty to fifties, whatever it may be, to
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  Speaker 1: kind of look through. Especially when I used to really
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  Speaker 1: focus on cash games, I'd go into the when I
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  Speaker 1: was on primarily on FanDuel, go in sort by the
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  Speaker 1: could as hard sometimes to know exactly where you're at.
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  Speaker 1: Just sort by the highest dollar amount and kind of
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  Speaker 1: go one by one and see some head to heads
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to make the change. Fifty to fifties,
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  Speaker 1: you might not need to make the change, So I'd
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  Speaker 1: always sort it by the highest dollar amount and just
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  Speaker 1: kind of go through and see what sort of position
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  Speaker 1: I'm in. If I didn't get to everything, that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: but like you're able to at least give yourself a
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  Speaker 1: chance on some of the higher dollars stuff. So I
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  Speaker 1: think it's definitely important. Anything to kind of add on.
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  Speaker 2: To that, Yeah, it's I mean it went. I was
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  Speaker 2: going to get probably close to zero dollars back. Instead
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  Speaker 2: I got very low five figure like I completely doubled
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  Speaker 2: up from going to zero to that work doesn't end
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  Speaker 2: at the one o'clock Eastern games or ten East whatever,
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  Speaker 2: ten o'clock my time, whenever.
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  Speaker 3: The first games. You need to be looking at that
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  Speaker 3: stuff as a cash.
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  Speaker 2: Game player, as a tournament player, just say you know
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  Speaker 2: you're blocked out a first place or a couple lineups
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  Speaker 2: all of the same guy. You can make the decision,
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  Speaker 2: like you were talking about a little while ago. At
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  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup last week, you knew you were a block,
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  Speaker 2: but there was no good pivot, and then after new
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  Speaker 2: game that was cheaper, you were fine. If he goes
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  Speaker 2: off to get fifth place, thirty five pay or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: If I was a guy sitting in twelve place, with
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  Speaker 2: how exponential those payouts are, maybe I would have taken
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  Speaker 2: a chance offered Cooper Cup to a Jamison Williams. On
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  Speaker 2: the other side, Oh, Cooper Cup is a bad day,
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  Speaker 2: Jama outscores him by eight. I can win a million
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  Speaker 2: dollars or whatever it may be, one hundred K. So
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  Speaker 2: this can go to tournaments too. If you're up there
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  Speaker 2: look ahead, you can crunch the salary. It's pretty obvious
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  Speaker 2: usually who the other people have head to heads just
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  Speaker 2: say you're up by one point.
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  Speaker 3: You both have a tight end left. You know you
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  Speaker 3: have Travis Kelce.
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  Speaker 2: The other guy only has money for John hus Smith
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  Speaker 2: just said it yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously I'm just throwing random names.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then you can take out Kelsey, go down to
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  Speaker 2: John new Smith and block them and get your guaranteed
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  Speaker 2: win and head to head. Because John who could outscore
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  Speaker 2: Kelsey in some scenario, he out scores them by two,
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  Speaker 2: you lost that.
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  Speaker 3: Just like the season long defense.
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  Speaker 2: If you're up by one point and you have a
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  Speaker 2: defense on Monday night football and nothing else, it is
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  Speaker 2: smart to take your defense out because you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to risk the points of negative. You have a locked
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  Speaker 2: up win. Why take any risks. So there's levels to everything,
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  Speaker 2: like we talk about. If you want to be trying
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  Speaker 2: to be the top, try and make the most money
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  Speaker 2: on your dollar, you need to be locked in looking
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  Speaker 2: at other.
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  Speaker 3: Teams, looking at trains where to pivot.
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  Speaker 2: Always think in mind your last player should be in
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  Speaker 2: the flat spot last locking time. For reasons like that. Again,
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  Speaker 2: the odds were way against me, but I was drawing dead.
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  Speaker 2: I had zero percent. If I didn't swap, I gave
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  Speaker 2: my son self some out and then part of my
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  Speaker 2: thought process because I debated Kenneth Walker or Godwin, I'd
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  Speaker 2: walk or projected a little better. I love the spot,
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  Speaker 2: but direct leverage off of Chalky White it just made
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  Speaker 2: sense to me. I'll give up a projection point or
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  Speaker 2: two if he busts. It's more likely that god when Evans, etc.
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  Speaker 3: They do it through the air. Little stuff like that,
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  Speaker 3: Hey you got to get lucky sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very good talking point leading into the week two
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  Speaker 1: cash conversation. So I hope you guys enjoyed that. Please
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  Speaker 1: this channel. Week two. You know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: obvious plays and we'll kind of get into them at
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  Speaker 1: has our projections pre loaded. We're talking DraftKings first. We'll
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  Speaker 1: kind of go position by position with the DraftKings and FanDuel.
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  Speaker 1: I have it sorted by value right now. So right here,
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  Speaker 1: projected value boom. When you sort of by value. The
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  Speaker 1: top option is Jade Daniels sixty two hundred dollars and
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  Speaker 1: I imagine pretty good starting point for cash games. You
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  Speaker 1: look at the game log from last week. I pulled
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  Speaker 1: it up here. He passed for one hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 1: four yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions, and managed to get
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight Fantasy points. That's because he rushed the ball
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  Speaker 1: sixteen times for eighty eight yards and two touchdowns. He
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  Speaker 1: was not really looking to pass, he was looking to
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  Speaker 1: take off and he continued to do it. And he's
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  Speaker 1: very fast and he was very successful at doing it,
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  Speaker 1: and I imagine we're going to see a lot of
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  Speaker 1: that from this guy all season long. Creates a very
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  Speaker 1: very high floor and high ceiling. You want the high
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  Speaker 1: floor for cash games, and he provides it sixty two
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars this week. I imagine he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: very popular. Don't feel comfortable going with him. I don't
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  Speaker 1: mind Patrick Mahomes. I think seven k is a very
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  Speaker 1: fair price tag for him facing the Bengals. Their offense
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  Speaker 1: look good. He's got the new weapons, new weapon and
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  Speaker 1: what's the dude's name, Xavier right Worthy? Yeah, Xavier Worthy,
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  Speaker 1: So that dude is very fast. His connection with Rice
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  Speaker 1: looks solid. Travis Kelcey, we'll talk about him a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later. He looks a little bit iffy. But I
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  Speaker 1: think Mahomes is a fine option if you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go to Jaden Daniels, but you're still you're saving
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred. I just view Daniels as a very high
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  Speaker 1: floor guy, sixty two hundred. You can get whatever the
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  Speaker 1: hell else you want by playing him at quarterbacks. So
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  Speaker 1: I think he's probably the popular guy. How you seeing
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  Speaker 1: QB on DK this week?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you hit it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go below Jade and Daniels at
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  Speaker 2: six to two because he looks like just the best value,
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  Speaker 2: Like we don't need to take a risk on fields
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  Speaker 2: Darnald looked good, sure, but no need to do that.
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  Speaker 3: In cash games.
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  Speaker 2: Six point two K a great price, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the same sentiments we talked about Anthony Richardson last week
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  Speaker 2: when his price was way, way cheaper.
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  Speaker 3: He got to bump all the way to six eights,
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  Speaker 3: but he won. He had nine completions.
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson miss Sadannie Mitchell for two like should have
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  Speaker 2: had more. Puts up twenty seven DK points because he's
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  Speaker 2: damn near a running back at the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 3: That's what do you get with Jade and Daniels. You
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  Speaker 3: watch him, he looks like a mini Lamar out there,
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  Speaker 3: just so smooth. He can escape any pressure.
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  Speaker 2: He will look at his first option, second option, but
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  Speaker 2: he wants to tuck it at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: So it's Daniels at six too, And then I think
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  Speaker 2: it's otherwise Mahomes at seven K because that just seems
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  Speaker 2: too cheap. Against Cincy, the second highest team total on
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  Speaker 2: the slate for Mahomes definitely has the three hundred yard
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  Speaker 2: bonus in his range outcomes. I mean Lamar at seven
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  Speaker 2: to seven, like, I'll just take the seven hundred savings.
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  Speaker 2: Kyler at four hundred or sixty six hundred. I'd rather
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  Speaker 2: find the four hundred. Mahomes feels a lot safer there.
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  Speaker 2: The floor on Mahomes is definitely better than Daniels. So
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  Speaker 2: that's what you're paying for the six or the eight
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  Speaker 2: hundred if you do go Daniels or Mahomes over Daniels.
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  Speaker 3: But I'd be lying if I said, like, the upside
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  Speaker 3: isn't the same.
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  Speaker 2: I mean through the to be honest, Daniels probably has
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  Speaker 2: more upside at the end of the day for eight
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  Speaker 2: hundred cheaper.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's one of those two as one good
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  Speaker 1: matchup too, that's our saying. I mean, they're gonna the
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  Speaker 1: Washington's gonna run and they don't appear to be a
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  Speaker 1: very good football team. They're gonna run into some difficult
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  Speaker 1: situations throughout the season. This is probably one of the
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  Speaker 1: better ones at home versus Giants team that looks like
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  Speaker 1: complete dogshit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right. And then no Baker for cash?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Kenny? Always good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of the same thing I said about like Kyler
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  Speaker 2: Murray with the Mahomes that three hundred from Daniels down
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  Speaker 2: to Baker.
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  Speaker 3: I just it's not enough.
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  Speaker 2: Like the up The rushing upside on Daniels is so
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  Speaker 2: elite and I love like, I.
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  Speaker 3: Just don't need Baker at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: A pocket passer who just played his best game, he
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  Speaker 2: can pretty much do like that's the ceiling game. It
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  Speaker 2: is the highest total on the slate in that one
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  Speaker 2: against the Lions.
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  Speaker 3: But Lions are better d than the Giants.
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  Speaker 2: There's no rushing upside there and rash yeah, Rashad White
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  Speaker 2: can take a couple maybe touchdowns if it is in
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  Speaker 2: the goal line. At the end of the day, the
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  Speaker 2: rushing upside is big enough for Daniels. The upside is
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  Speaker 2: way bigger for Daniels than Baker where I want to
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  Speaker 2: find the three hundred, So no Baker for me.
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  Speaker 1: I heard a crazy stat on Baker Sports Talk Radio
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  Speaker 1: here because obviously the Lions are playing the Bucks this
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  Speaker 1: week and in his last I want to say, it's
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  Speaker 1: like seven or eight games he's thrown like eighteen touchdown
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  Speaker 1: passes and two interceptions only two interceptions where the playoff
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  Speaker 1: game against the Lions. I mean, he's been playing phenomenally well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it is a pretty tough spot for him in Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: likely playing from behind theirn and a half point underdogs.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's definitely been playing well. But I guess
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  Speaker 1: it is one bad game would have come against his
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  Speaker 1: lines in the in the playoffs when they beat him.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just something to nobody agree, like no running,
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  Speaker 1: no big time running upside for him. Jade and Daniels
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  Speaker 1: just what three hundred dollars more? I mean, it's just.
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  Speaker 3: The same team total. Yeah, Daniels his run going.
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  Speaker 1: This is the cheapest will probably be all season, sixty
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  Speaker 1: two hundred. He does look like you said, like mini
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: mini Lamar, so over on FanDuel. We'll flip it over,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sort of by projected value again and same
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  Speaker 1: name at the top Jade and Daniels seventy nine hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's as clear as on DraftKings. You
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  Speaker 1: can kind of talk about that, but I do think
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: there's some other names in the conversation here. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: this is a little bit biased because this guy made
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  Speaker 1: me a shit ton of money last year, But Dak
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  Speaker 1: seventy seven hundred at home, much better at home. Kyler
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  Speaker 1: Murray's right there, same price tag eight k in a
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  Speaker 1: game that has the potential to shoot out Rock Purty
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  Speaker 1: is pretty cheap at the seventy three. At the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, you know it's probably Jayden Daniels, but
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  Speaker 1: I think you have more options on FanDuel. Like on DK,
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  Speaker 1: the only two I'd probably consider would be Daniels or Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: On FanDuel, I think you can consider a few more guys,
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  Speaker 1: but like I said, it is probably still Daniels, but
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  Speaker 1: I think there's more potential guys here. If you don't
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  Speaker 1: trust them.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's more options as well, and someone like
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  Speaker 2: myself that does play on multiple sites. If I am
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  Speaker 2: going Daniels on DK, maybe I would like nine hundred
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: more is Lamar and FanDuel usually is softer pricing. It's
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: easier to spend up at quarterback. I always love playing Lamar.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: The third highest team total on the slate only a
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: one hundred discount for Mahomes, So again, I'm totally good
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  Speaker 2: with Mahomes as well, but Lamar only being one hundred.
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  Speaker 3: More instead of seven hundred more.
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  Speaker 2: If I have the money, I will definitely That'll be
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  Speaker 2: a tough decision for me, and I just say I
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  Speaker 2: go Mahomes on DK, and I know I have the
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  Speaker 2: money on FanDuel, I probably will just lean into Lamar.
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  Speaker 2: It's really close and the eye test. Lamar passed it
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: with flying colors week one. I mean, man, he cut
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: down the way legs look great and likely is going
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: to be a monster. So I think both of them
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: in play as a spend up. Daniels at seven to nine. Yeah,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: you talked about it a lot. Another great play. But
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: if I if I'm two hundred over my ideal lineup
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: with seven nine Daniels, like you said, Dak is totally
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: in play at seven to seven.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: It was a real pretty much as brutal a matchup
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: as it gets.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Week one on the road in Cleveland, when Ceedee Hardley
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: practice all year and they look good.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: The offense moved the ball, the defense played great.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: They didn't need to do anything. I mean the defense
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: got the job done in Cleveland, couldn't do anything at all.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I mean their offense wasn't needed on the road week
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: one with your stud not fully up to speed, like,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: they took the win and got the hell out of there.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that I mean he looked good. He reads
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: the cook.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb's still ced so fifth highest team total on
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: this late only seven point seven came for them in
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: a dome. I think that's another great play as well.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: If I had the two hundred, I would want Daniels
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: just because that rushing ups. Like I said, if I'm
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: saying many Lamar, I mean I remember pretty much rostering
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Lamar him and Cemac like four years ago when they
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: were just still under price having their career years. I
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: mean that Jane Daniels can have like seven to nine.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Is that price tag where he can break it so
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: a little tougher on FanDuel, mainly cause salary is always
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a little softer.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's options on both sides. I mean
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: there's viable cash options going up, viable cash options go
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: going down, and I don't think that's the case on DK.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: But like I said, I mean, if I end up
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: with Daniels on fandel, I'm totally fine with that. It's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: probably the route that I would lean at this point.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: But again, there are other options, and sometimes you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I don't mind like the natural hedge, you know, going
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: like you can talk on Daniels on DK and then
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe not forcing in someone else on FanDuel.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: But if it works out where I have to go
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: somewhere else, Like, I'm fine with it over at the
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: running back position. I just want to do one thing
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: because we still have McCaffrey in. I don't think McCaffrey plays.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: The last bit of news did not sound encouraging for him.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go and just bump up Jordan Mason
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: and make it pretty simple on all of us here.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I'm FanDuel just put in.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Or you just set that lock button next to it.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other option, because like he's a he's
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: a lock button play. Assuming McCaffrey's out, which I think
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: is the case. So yeah, that lock button. There's your
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: free b of the week. It's gonna be Jordan Mason
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: fifty five hundred dollars. I'm fandel cheap on DKs. While
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: he looked incredible, the matchup is good. I know there
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: are some concerns on the Primetime game that other guys
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: would get mixed in. They did not get mixed in.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: It was all Jordan Mason, and Jordan Mason got the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: job done. Probably gets the job done here as well.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Lock button cash game play. I'd say this week, if
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: you sort by value, which I haven't, sort of you're
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: going to get some of these other guys in here.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not playing Rico because they have the money. Yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: so we're definitely going to have the money. Breece Hall
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: showing up as the top projected guy. Andy has a
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: good value number eighty five hundred, got all the work
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: in a bad matchup against forty nine ers. I mean,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the team looked terrible, much better spot here against Tennessee.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: He's a very solid option. Jonathan Taylor, and then Karen
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Williams is a name that we haven't projected to think
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit lower than some other spots in the industry.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: One other name that I did want to add would
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: be two more names I guess would be Pacheco at
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: seventy four. He looked really good. It's a really good
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: spot for the Chiefs. And then I kind of talked
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a lot about Derrick Henry on the first Showdown show
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: of the season, and this is a spot where I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: think you can definitely play Derrick Henry seventy five hundred
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: dollars or nine and a half point favorites at home.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So it's Jordan Mason lock button play. Breecee Hall looks
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to be in a really good spot. Put checko Derrick Henry.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You guys that kind of stand up to me. How
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: how are you seeing this position? Yeah?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Similar to you, Jordan Mason.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: No words need to be said five point five K
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: assuming he's the starting which I assume that's the case,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: lock and load in cash games, and then yeah, I'm
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: going to follow the projection right there with.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Brees Hall at eighty five.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: His role that just looks so good up through the
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: ground catching passes out of the backfield. Was not much
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: competition at all. Braylon Allen was pretty much nonexistence. Good
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: spot against Tennessee. It's just everything sets up for Breeze Hall.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have one of the best roles in the
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: NFL this year barring injury. So I'm planning on those
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: two right now. So I don't see myself going JT
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: as much because I do like Kyron Williams more than JT.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: If I had to pick, talk about another irrelevant rookie,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Blake Korham, like I was shocked he got no offensive snaps.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: He just played special teams. Now they're without Puka, so
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: there's more rushing. You can give him a couple more
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: carries in there, maybe more pass catching, Yeah, we can
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: talk about that as well. But I like the role
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: for Kyri Williams a lot. Again, that'd be three running backs,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: two of them eight K and eighty five, so by
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: no means a lot, but a very good price. Take
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Ramandre Stevenson another one that's the other side of that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Charbon a game well, I'll talk about in a sec.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: He got work and Antonio Gibson didn't, which not good
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: for my best ball teams. Twenty five rushing attempts though,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: man if he's gonna get and again, not a great matchup,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: but it's more at six ' nine a guy that's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: gonna touch the ball twenty plus times. I don't hate that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Savings another good role in week one Jerome fod only
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: six point three K. If you need some salary, I'm
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: in on him. You mentioned Pachecko. I do lean Pachecko
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: over Dereck Henry to pick, mainly because again it's the
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: perfect strips like tournaments wise all that if they get
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: behind or it's a close game, we know Justice Hill
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: is going to be coming in. We saw so much
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: in week one as this big of favorites. Though it
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: could be a prime Henry spot. I think he's going
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to be solo on though, and Pacheco projects better in
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: that same range. I want to save that more for tournaments,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: but I do like your thoughts there. And then yeah,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: if Walker's out charbon Ay, you can look at as well,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: who is six point three k?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, six point three k and yeah, so Walker hasn't practiced.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: It looks like this week, so it should get more
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: clearity on that situation today. A lot of times Friday
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: late afternoon is when we start to see these final
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: injury reports. It's going to be a lot of the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: same over on DraftKings at the position I had already
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: went and put in the Jordan Mason projection fifty two hundred.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: He's the play there for sure. Brace Hall and'd say
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: even more affordable at seventy four. Kieran Williams sixty eight.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's more clear cut over here than even
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel. FanDuel is pretty clearcut. At the running back
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: position on DraftKings, I think it's even more clear cut.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Jordan Mason, Breece Hall is even cheaper, and then Kieran
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Williams is sixty eight. Like, I just think that's probably
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: probably what you do at the position.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it probably is. Like if I did it today,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: those are the three.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I would want. Mason's a lot.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I'm still prioritizing Breeze over Kyrien Williams. I think the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: pass catching role is really good for Breeze. Full point
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: PPR sites. Someone mentioned no things. Titan D's legit. Hey,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: it's a cash show. You don't get your money, you
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: build your own teams. There's plenty of other running back
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: options if you don't want to go there.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Forty nine ers forty nine Ers defense is legit too,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: And I mean he managed to have a good game
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: when they got their ass kicked the entire time. So
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, if you want to play the matchups,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: you definitely can still put up in a game that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: got absolutely throttled. He put up nineteen Fantasy points against
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers defense. This game is projected to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: be much closer, and the workload is going to be
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the same, if not bigger.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost out on the last two drives, but Scott, Hey,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: if you think he has an awful game, you can
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: find Zetrivit twenty one in the draftings Lobby or title
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Town in the FanDuel lobby Breesaw sucks, you know, I'll
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: have them. Then you get a little free money that way,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So always open.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Free money from titles hard to come by. So I
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: mean definitely definitely hop on that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's open any takers out there, But yeah, Kyron
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: looks too cheap. Stevenson a good price there. Jamiir Gibbs
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: six point six k, highest total on the slate. I
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: think that's interesting. Five to nine for Ford, so there's
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: plenty of options. Again, the Kien, Breese and Mason, Like
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: right now, I am playing them. Kyron is the guy
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that I would like. But at six point eight k.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: If I needed nine hundred to Ford, I guess maybe
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: not as Gibbs as much. So two hundred I think
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I'd prioritize and find a way, namely as if I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: need the Ford. James Connor, he had another great role Stevenson.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, James Connor, Yeah, I guess kind of.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I maybe overlooked him a little bit on FanDuel, but he's.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Started real strong against the real strong.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, three running back week, it could go either way.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I think, like we mentioned, three running backs definitely in
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: play if you can do the Kireen or Mason Breeze
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and then it is a Kyrienner Stevenson.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: But we're going to get to receiver.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: There's still plenty, a plethora of good receivers, like we
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: talk about a lot that usually are less than six
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: eight that you put in the flex.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: So too early to say.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And last week, like I don't know, maybe DraftKings is
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: adjusting pricing a little bit. It's too early for me
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: to tell. But the huge training went wide receiver in
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the or four receivers. I went three running backs. So
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: again the chows is not just I did, and I
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: mean it was wrong, but it got me out on
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the swamp. That was right, So I got lucky. But yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: every week's different.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Good seguent into the wide receiver position. I think we
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: hit our second second lock button play in cash lineups
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: this week and it's gonna be mister Cooper cup seventy
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: six hundred no Puka, the role absolutely insane. Last week
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: against a good defense. He looked back, obviously twenty I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: didn't realize this was number twenty one targets. Last week,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: twenty one targets. It's a good matchup against Arizona. He
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: went fourteen for one to ten and a touchdown. Sites
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: did not have an opportunity to adjust the price tag up.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I think you got to play him this week. You know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: he's going to be very highly owned, even if you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: don't like him, which I can't imagine you wouldn't like him.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: This week, you just got to play him as a blocker.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: We got the news T Higgins is going to be
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: out our guy Yoshi thirty eight hundred. It's not a
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: slam dug play. I mean we saw it last week.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I mean he was very what was his ownership in
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: cash games had to be massive?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Right, like neither yeah the high stakes even.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just through the roof play and he got five
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: point six Fantasy points. The price is up a little
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: bit more this week, but he's gonna project very well
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: in no matter where you look. A name man like
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that's just way too cheap for me? Is Rashid Rice
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: at sixty seven hundred? Like the role is insane for him,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And I guess it's more than like the role, Like
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you start looking at a guy like him and his
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: connection is just so good with like the best quarterback
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: in the league like him and Mahomes are just always
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: on the same page and he's just so steady. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: mean seven for one oh three didn't find the end
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: zone last week? It see twenty fantasy points like that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: is just too cheap of a price tag for me
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: at sixty seven hundred on on DK, I mean they
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: had the time to definitely get that price up and
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: did not do it. Let's see what are we sorted
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: by it? Sort of by value? So I don't know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: maybe it's a little more open, Maybe this is the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: spot that's a little more open, but I know you're
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: definitely going Cooper Cup got to make the decision on Yoshi,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and then for me personally, I'd be trying to get
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: in Rashid Rice if if I was able to with
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the salary at sixty seven. What are your thoughts here
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: at the wide receiver, Yeah, A lot.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Of what you said and a lot of what us.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Sorting by value shows like Yoshi's still too cheap. There
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: won't be take t Higgins his I mean, I think
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: he was on the field for every single snap if
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken as well, So even though.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh they played so so bad. So even though
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: the box.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Score doesn't show it, I mean, yeah, it's uh. I
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: mean they fumbled at the goal line once, maybe even twice.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: It was it was bad all around, but definitely yeah
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: in on Yoshi as value. I will say some other
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: value too, the Rams stuff with no Puka, DeMarcus Robinson's
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I'll jump right there. Four K as a wide receiver
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: two in a dome against Arizona bad defense. That's another
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: very good value by Yoshi. And then it's gonna be
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: either too to at Will and Tyler Johnson. I think
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: rotating in for number three. I don't love either of
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: them too much, but like Johnson's three point three K
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: two to two is three point seven K three seven,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I think I probably still prefer Yoshi, and probably prefer
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: to Marcus at four K.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: So maybe I'll take a little step back.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Marcus, for some reason, isn't popping first. What our number
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: is the holy go.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Well, we got to get that added for sure, because he's.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Gonna oh because I changed it to one. I was
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: trying to change it to ten, and see what happened.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's see we have him at nine. I mean,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I guess that's not too far. Yeah, I think a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: little bit, and see if he gets out there and
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: put him to ten and he starts to show up
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: on the first page. Bag here, that's a solid play
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: at the four k flat regardless of what the projection is.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely in play Like Ellen Zard's another piece of
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: value right there. Maybe I for Blizard over Ty Johnson
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the wide receiver two.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Again, do not expect what we just saw last week.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: But a wide receiver two at three point three k
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: when the whole defense is focusing on breeze on Garrett Wilson.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I think that's fine. It was a two light Dobbins two,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: risky and cash.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: There's clear cut plays and I mean, yeah, you could
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: definitely have a big game. I think definitely a great
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: tournament play.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's just because of Gus Edwards. We
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: still don't know that whole situation. They do want to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: pound the football. Dobbins looked good last week, for sure,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: but I think more so at Hoop said with the
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Mason lock we have for his price tag, we don't
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: need to take as much unknowns there. But yeah, I
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: like in tournaments Cooper Cup, Yeah, hit that lock button.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: See Rashid Rice like that the price tag on Neighbors
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: against a brutal Commander's team looks very good. If Deebo
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Samuel six point eight k on DraftKings, I think another
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: very strong play. No, it's not just a boost to Mason.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: We saw Deebo get multiple carries line up in the backfield.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: He was all over the field. You know the upside
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: he has playing in the dome there as well.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, if we have the opportunity to spend, Yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: if you have an opportunity for another spend.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Godwin's good. I like Godam at six K two, that's
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: a good price.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Take Yeah, Godwin at six K. I mean I don't mind,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: like even Garrett Wilson at seventy one if I landed
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: on him, justin Jefferson as a cheap price. Site matchups
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: not good U C. Ed Lamb probably a little bit
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: too expensive for cash games. I kind of started throwing
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: in some of these preliminary plays and does get tight
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: like you gotta gonna make a decision. I mean, it
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: looks like you're either going a mid tier wide receiver
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and a mid tier tight end or a punt tight
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: end and then another spendish type play at wide receiver.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Basically is what is kind of coming down to. On DK.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, we can get to the punt tight ends because
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: there's two of them, Kobe Parkinson Jordan Atkins. Parkinson came
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: over this year for the Rams, was actually had decent
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: camp without Puka, Like that's just number one target or
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: one A, one B is off the field. If Cooper
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: cups covered, he's actually gonna get looked. So I think
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Parkinson is very in play at three to one, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Jordan Atkins Nadjoku is ruled out. He's three k as
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: well for the Bengals. I mean DeShawn hey though the line,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the line is okay. I guess DeShawn just stinks like
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: they can't throw it down the field, can't find anyone.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: You think he goes to his outlet. He loved Njoku
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: on shorter routes as a security blanket. I think that
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: could be Atkins too, So I do think it is
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: a save at tight end.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I think our number is a tad bit too low.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Five to five point seven. Five I think would bring
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: him up a little bit, maybe closer to to seven.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: And again it doesn't matter. I mean, but let's see
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: if we put him at seven, where this he kind
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: of reject overall at this position.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Taylor was also beat up. I will say that as well.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So his snaps were limited, should go up in week two,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: but not at the receiver position that loaded Yoshi Lazarre.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: You feel I feel a little better about those DeMarcus
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'm talking aboute Yes.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: We have cheap options. Is there any sponge? I guess
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the most expensive guy is is Kelsey. I mean that's
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: a tough click. After what I witnessed last week he
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: just did. Yeah, I don't think you can do it
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: tournaments for sure. If you're playing my homes in tournaments, like,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I'd definitely get some exposure, but I think.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I'd rather just like you find them, like I'd rather
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: punt tight end so I can upgrade Stevenson to a
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Kyrint or maybe like a Lazarre to a Godwin or
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's right now.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: If I if this late lot today, I would be
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: punting tight end with either Parkinson Atkins.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Let's slip over to FanDuel. We'll talk a wide receiver
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and h tight end real quick. It's gonna be a
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: lot of the same. Honestly, it's Cooper Cup. I'm gonna
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: play him for me personally, like I love the rice
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: price tag over there at sixty nine. I think he's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: clearly in the conversation. This is sorted by value. What's
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the price on Robinson? He is fifty fifty two hundred
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: for DeMarcus Robinson. I think, you know, if we're considering
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: him on DK and we want to sit, we need
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: more savings on FanDuel, I'd be totally fine with that.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: If Yoshi down at fifty two, man, call me crazy,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: but I'd consider Jamison Williams man like they're because he's
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be out I guess he is technically questionable, but
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: he's gonna play. He's gonna be out there, he's gonna
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: be more involved this year, and he has like the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: big play upside. And I know you're not necessarily looking
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: for that with with cash games, but I think the floor, well,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: it's clear the floor is much higher this year than
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: it was last year. But I think there's a floor
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: there too, and there's upside, So I don't know. I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: would consider him at fifty seven, to be honest, like,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: if if I had five hundred more and I'm looking
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: at a guy like Yoshi and I had five hundred,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I would feel totally good going to Jamison Williams, what's
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on that sort of move?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think that makes total sense.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: If like the five hundred, I look at Jamo's an
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: upgrade from Yoshi, definitely an upgrade for the offense, a
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: way better game environments. My counter to that is, so,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: of course the Sunday Night Football game is added Chicago
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: and Houston. Solid game reason I bring it up though,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: tank Dell's only sixty one, Godwin's only sixty two, so
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I look at them, it's a lot safer with big
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: time upside there as well. Like tank Dell's underlying metrics
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: were really good last week, even the box score didn't
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: really reflect that.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: At sixty two's got to be a great play. What
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: a terrible price, even what was your last week? Fifty nine?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: They bumped them up three.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Was it fifty nine or was it fifty six?
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Eight?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: It was fifty eight, okay, so yeah, so but way
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: too cheap. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we need it with Jordan Mason
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: and all that, but I mean I like to I
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: like to play for sure enough Cooper Cup, great play, Debo,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: great play where she Rice, great play Neighbors six point
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: four K.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Great play. I don't think we're gonna need Lamb at
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: nine to one.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Like, just play Cooper Cup, play the Rice, the debos,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: save your two K neighbors again.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: The price is great.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: We'll save here. Here's a little foreshadowing. We'll save the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb conversation for for Sunday morning. How about that?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: There we go. I like it, if you know what
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I know you better get to Jersey
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: on yes, sir, uh tight end fan duel. So I
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: tell you click the title. We'll still have the port
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: away out there. I want to see his price still
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: up at seventy nine hundred. I'll play them in tournaments
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: for sure, but I'm not getting there in cash. We
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: have Hayden Hirsch forty six hundred punt play. He definitely
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: got some action. McBride is a little bit cheaper than
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: that top tier guy, the top tier guys like Kelsey
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars discount from Kelsey and then what is it,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: seventeen hundred dollars discount from from Sam Laporta. I'd be
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: fine with McBride if I had the money. That's a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: lot of yeah, right, I mean in that game, you
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: get a natural correlation. If you're playing Cooper Cup, you
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: get potential for some back and forth. I do like
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: that McBride price tag. I think it's solid on FanDuel.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, in a dome, six two is way too cheap.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Like the box score wasn't great. Another underlying guy on
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the field a ton. They were up in that game
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: early as well, so they pouted the ball had success
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: there like six to two for trade. McBride's is a joke,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: so that's right now. I would be locking him in
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the start. If this late locked today, he'll.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Be on the cass. I agree. We don't talk a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: ton of defense. But I just went to FanDuel. Here
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: sorted by value, Texans popping at forty one. I think
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: it's a very good starting point. I mean, at home
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: against the Bears are favored by six six and a
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: half on the other so we're showing the Bears is
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the second best value. I don't know if I necessarily
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: love that, got the Cowboys at forty six showing up here,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: just initial thoughts at Texans number looks pretty good. Forty
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: one hundred for the Texans.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have forty one hundred for sure, defense,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I hardly let's see. I always sar by the least
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: expensive Panthers against the Chargers, not even the worst because
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the Chargers. Yeah, I mean you get six points, like
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: you get upgrade. I think that's fine. No Bengals against KC,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: No Raiders against Baltimore.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I don't mind Titans.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind Titans. I don't mind Patriots. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: don't mind Broncos. I don't mind Giants, even though, like
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: we like Daniels. You know, there's a lot of sack
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: ups side there as you like semester around, So to
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: be honest, I'll probably go looking at it more, probably
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: get out cheaper. Yeah, because there's a variety of options
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: down there.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Over on d K we're showing the let's do the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: same thing it we'll sort by cheapest, and yeah, there's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: twenty three. I wouldn't do the Cardinals. I would be
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: fine with the Panthers if I needed the money. I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, maybe it is the Is there anything
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: kind of in the middle there? Lions, I guess Lions
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: favored by seven to seven and a half. Just get
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: out of the.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Broncos gets fields the Giants. Daniels guys rushing quarterbacks. Yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: that like to bounce around back. There can always make mistakes.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Your Lions against Tampa at home, I think is interesting.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to be honest, defense will be one of the
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: last side.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Like last week we said Falcons on fan duel Price
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: was really good against steal It like it made sense.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: This week, there's nothing I'll be plugging into the one piece.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I guess the substantial news are waiting on, which I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think we both kind of feel the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: same way about it as McCaffrey. We currently have in
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: our projections. I imagine he's going to be out the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: last I.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Feel more confident that, like he might even miss multiple games.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's one sentence in
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: that last quote, like you know, we're not going to
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: rush him back and risk anything. So I wouldn't be
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: surprised if he's out there, especially if Mason continues to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: play Smith.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Junior in the back, right, Yeah, come on, I'm a
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Smith back. There is the second Yeah, I mean, Mason
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: looked good.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Any other injuries are waiting on or any final thoughts
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: before we get on out of here.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: We got the t Higgins.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: He is out obviously Puka, he is on the I
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: r RS, so that's big bump to the rams.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Big, yeah, that's definitely big there. Other than that, you
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: just early in the season usually it's pretty good. You
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: just never know. Like c Mac on Monday Night Football
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: last week, no one thought that's why we'll be on
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the show Sunday morning. Things pop off discord all the
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: content yellow, But no, I think I think we have
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: a general pretty good idea this week about who's going
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: In all right.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So in terms of cash games, if you're a
• 41:06
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• 41:08
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• 41:11
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• 41:14
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• 41:17
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• 41:20
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• 41:25
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• 41:27
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• 41:41
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• 42:01
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• 42:12
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• 42:22
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