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Dungeons, Dragons and Anime with Chris from Millington · Rock For Initiative

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What's up everyone? Welcome to another episode of
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Rock for Initiative. My name is Phil and I am your
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host. Today we get to talk to Chris
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Paul from Millington, everybody's favorite brass emo
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snob. And I'm really excited for this
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episode because we get to talk Dungeons and Dragons, which is
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something that we rarely get to do for a podcast that is named
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after Dungeons and Dragons. Chris is the trombonist from
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Millington, super awesome guy. We talk about Dungeons and
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Dragons, talk about DM ING, we talk about anime.
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We get into fantasy novels like a lots of fun nerdy stuff.
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Millington has a lot going on. This Saturday, October 3rd they
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are playing with Ice 9 Kills at the Silver Stream Con in
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Worcester, MA. They are also going on tour this
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October, November up into Chicago in Ohio and then up and
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down the East Coast. So if they are coming anywhere
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near you I would 100% recommend going out to see them.
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They'll also be at work tour in Orlando, which I will hopefully
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also be at and I will I guarantee I will be at the
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Millington set. So make sure you check them out.
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Their new single, I Won't Surrender came out like a month
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and a half ago or so. I don't, I don't remember, but
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it's it's really good. Very different tone than than
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what you may be used to from Millington.
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They just released some music video for it too, which is
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really cool. They shot at Nick's house, I
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think. I don't know.
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Very cool band. Rockford Initiative is part of
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But yeah, let's go to the interview.
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Enjoy. I am happy to have Chris from
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Millington with us. How are you doing, Chris?
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I'm good, Phil. How are you doing?
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Can I call? You Phil.
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You can't call me Phil. OK, Is that just a Millington
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thingy? Is just.
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I guess it's kind of become a Millington thing, but here we
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are it. Feels nice.
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It feels, it feels good. I was good when I got home from
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Warped Tour. I I played the interview for my
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wife and she's like, these guys are like your best friends.
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They're calling you Phil. I was like, well, I introduced
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myself as Phil. But yeah, I mean, yes, they are
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my best friends. And that is very true.
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Right, That's right. That was a fun time.
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That was a good time meeting you at DC Warped.
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Yeah, that was a good Yeah, that was a really, it was a really
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hot day. That was really hot, but.
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It was very hot that interview. That area where they had us
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doing interviews was very noisy. You guys, I, I got to interview
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some really cool bands, but I, and I'm not just blowing smoke.
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You guys were my favorite band interview.
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The Dolly Rots were also fabulous people.
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But Millington, I mean, come on. Everyone's favorite Scott band,
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I hope. Everyone's favorite Scott band?
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Maybe after? A little bit, but you.
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Know, yeah, I mean, the suburban legends are up there.
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Yeah. So I'm excited to talk to you
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about D and DI. Know you got some other stuff
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that you said, but D&D is obviously the name of the
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podcast. Is Rock for Initiative, Yes.
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Yes, it is. I have not had a chance to have
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anyone on that. Like D&D is the thing that we
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were talking about, though, like Mike from, from Summer Brews.
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We talked a little bit about it, but it was mostly wrestling.
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But you're, you're the first, like straight to D&D person.
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So tell me about your entry point to the Dungeons and
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Dragons. Sure, definitely.
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I guess like I'm, I'm, I would consider myself more of like a,
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a baby in a sense of like my, how long I've been playing.
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But I'm, I mean, I started like when 5th edition came out.
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So what was that like over 10 years ago or around 10 years
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ago, something like that? Which is really I'm in utero
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because I probably started like four or five years ago as my
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entry point. I see.
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Yeah, Yeah. So I think yeah, probably about
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yeah, summer, maybe about 10:00-ish years ago is when I
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started. So I was like in, you know, in
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college and stuff and like, I, yeah, it just never came across
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my radar. Well, I knew about it before
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then and stuff. But like, you know, oh, that's
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like, you know, growing up in the 2000s stuff that's like the
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nerdy stuff. You know, I can, if I can swear
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that's like the nerdy shit, you know, like, oh, the real nerds
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do that. But like, you know, so you
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definitely don't don't do that. Oh, like, but, you know, so like
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I knew about it tangentially and stuff, but never had like
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friends back, you know, when I was growing up that like really
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played until I got to college and then just kind of started
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hearing more about and kind of saw some actual play.
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Really like kind of first got me and I was like, Oh, this looks
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really fun. Just like I, I, I would do this.
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This doesn't look nearly as complicated or, you know, as I
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thought and stuff. And like, you can do all these
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things. So, you know, I just found a
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friend in, in music school that also played D&D and had been
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playing for, you know, and since like third edition or so.
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And we started a group and then I've just been playing.
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Fantastic. I I I like the barrier to entry
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is much lower than people think and the barrier to entry really
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is. Can you find someone to DM for
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you and. Sometimes that is a very or it
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feels like a very high bar of entry, that's for sure.
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I I would no because I am finding myself being the forever
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DM these days. For for, yeah.
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But I've been fighting really hard against.
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It's hard to break free. So.
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So you have been D Ming. Are you?
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Are you D Ming a game right now? I am not D Ming a game right
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now. I I I did DM for like a a good
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while again, like in college and stuff, you know, just to get
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people actually playing. But I kind of sort of recently
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got back into playing a lot more and and D Ming too.
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So I've, I've really just been doing like a lot of one shots
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just for like my friends just to kind of show that if they're
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especially if they're interested in it, but like never again,
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like that barrier to entry and being like, it's actually not
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that bad. Like, you know, it's very
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approachable. You just kind of have to get
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your feet wet a little bit. So yeah, I mostly do one shots.
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I would say I'm a big fan of DMS Guild because they've just got a
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lot of really nice, really well written one shot.
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So you can just like, yeah, of course I'll throw you 2 bucks
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and buy this like thing that I'm going to have like a great time
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out, a great night out with with the friends with some beers and
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stuff, you know, like it's great so.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. The the DND creator community
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is, is really amazing. Like there's so much out there
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that is DND that is accessible and and easy to easy to get
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into. Yeah, for real.
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Like it It's it really is great. I might I might have like a
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couple of these. Where are they?
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But right over here, I think. Do I have any of these?
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Yeah, I just printed them out. So like this one.
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But I just want to give a make sure I give a shout out to the
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ones that I really like. Like this this one was really
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great. Aura Abel's cross.
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This is just like a level 2 adventure.
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This is really nice. There's another one I'm trying
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to make sure I give credit to the, the awesome people that
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made this, the Wild cheap Chase. It's like a level 5 adventure.
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It's a little bit more wacky in a sense.
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And then there was one more and I really like, I don't, I don't
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know if I printed that one out, but it's called haunting it or
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No, it's just called the haunting.
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It's kind of like a haunted house thing.
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So I like to run that around Halloween time.
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But it's like, you know, it's a pretty good one.
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So especially really new players that don't know a lot, you know,
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or like are into like the spooky or vibes, but don't know a lot.
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I I forget the name of the author of the the authors that
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made that one, but that's a great one too.
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That's that's a. Little long I'll look for them
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I'll find them and link them in the in the in the notes for the
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show so people can find them because.
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Those are, yeah, Because those are, like you said, the D&D
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community that's out there is home, you know, making home brew
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settings and campaigns and one shots is is so cool.
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It's such a cool thing. Right.
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Are you, you mentioned actual play.
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So is that like Critical Role that really got you in or?
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Yeah, that's the one. Critical Role was, was was the
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first one, you know, just back then, especially like 10 years
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ago or whatever, you know, they just started.
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So it's like you just start hearing like, Oh yeah, there's
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like guys playing, you know, these, these, this group of
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voice actors playing the DND on Twitch.
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And it's like, oh, OK, yeah, I guess I'll check that out.
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Sure. Well, I, I like anime as well.
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So like, I, I recognize like, like Lee O'Brien, like Sam and
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Sam Regal or Bailey Travis, like, you know, from like the
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dubbing, especially growing up in the 2000s, you know, all the
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English dubs, it's like, Oh yeah, I recognize that voice.
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You know, you kind of start picking those out.
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So I was like, yeah, I'll check it out.
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And just immediately hooked like episode 1 hooked ready to go.
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So good, yeah, those early campaigns especially, but even,
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I mean, I don't know, I'm a I'm a campaign 3 apologist.
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Like I think campaign 3 is really, really good.
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I enjoyed. Campaign three.
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No, they're all great. I mean, you know, I love all of
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their campaigns. They're they're, they're just
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great. I have not stayed up with
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Campaign 4, even though I love Brennan Lee Mulligan.
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It's just a lot. It's a lot of content.
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It really weak it. Really is yeah no, I I also
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haven't stayed up to date but no Brent Brendan is awesome as Adm
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too. Like what a talent.
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It's nice to see Matt as a player too.
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Right, getting to to move out from behind the the DM screen
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are you so when you get to be a player, do you have like a class
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of choice or what? What's your favorite go to type
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of character to make? Well, that's a good question.
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I have a couple of characters, but I'd say the primary one that
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I played, I, I normally, I play like a tiefling Paladin is
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usually the guy that I, I have, I kind of built his back story
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up for a while, you know, so like an older character of mine.
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I just really like paladins. I like, like being in a melee
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and stuff like, but I, I don't like to just just hit things.
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I like to have a little bit of extra stuff you can do.
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So I, that class really speaks to me and I, I just like the the
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devil version of that, I guess Tiefling, you know, especially.
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Yeah, just. Kind of playing against the
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type, I guess in, in a sense at least you know, in terms of.
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It's a little at odds, like yeah, it's like a yeah, yeah
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and, and just. Very cool.
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Yeah. Just like interpreting like the
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oaths in like a different kind of way.
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You know, it's, you know, it doesn't always have to be like
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the straight laced holy warrior kind of thing.
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You know, it can kind of get a little creative with that if you
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want, so let's try to. So does this character have like
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a really cool back story for his oath, his or her oaths, their
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oaths? Yeah, it depends on the setting,
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you know, that the whatever I play and I try to, you know, do
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that. Obviously it's a that's part of
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the things that I really like about DND is like it's, you
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know, maybe you feel the same. It's like it's a collaboration
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between like all these different people, you know, so like it,
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it's easy, especially as like Adm maybe to to feel like you
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want to have control over all, all the world and everything
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like that. And then, you know, easy for the
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player to be like what I this is my character, right?
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So like this is my back story, right.
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So I feel like when, when like when it really shines is when
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you collaborate in that kind of way of like, hey, I want this, I
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want this. How how does that work and with
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your thing and how did how would that fit in?
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And does it fit in and, you know, trying to bend, bend and
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you know, yeah, I guess bend things to fit certain aspects of
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what player wants to do. But also, you know, consider how
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it would fit in the setting that the the M is trying to tell as
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well. Right.
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I think like I really enjoy being able to pull in a
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character's back story at like an an opportune time and find
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ways to weave that into whatever narrative I'm trying to to to go
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through it as Adm. It's probably my favorite part
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of DM ING like I can. I'm, I'm only so creative and,
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and I'm probably way less than a lot of people who DM.
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Like I'm running a campaign right now with some friends that
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this is like our 4th or 5th campaign together.
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We'll do like one through 20 and it takes like 2 years to to get
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through. And the one that I just started
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with them is this like dungeon crawler Carl type narrative.
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The, the Boren corporation is actually the, the twilight
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court. It's all like Faye themed and
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stuff but I like. That that's really cool that a
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lot that's a good it's. Been a lot of fun.
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We just finished floor one. They just beat, they just
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finished the first bus. So now I'm like, how do I do
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sponsors and right, like are there interviews between floors?
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Now I got to think of all this stuff and how to how to connect
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it all. But also like I can pull in
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their backstories and they're like, how are things connected?
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How are they connected to the outside world?
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And like what are the like really emotional points that we
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can hit, which has lost a little bit on this group.
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Sorry if they're listening. They're not the like biggest
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role players. It's like.
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Little more murder hobo kind of thing, right?
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Maybe. I mean, we all, everyone has
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those groups, right? Sometimes.
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They're definitely chaotic neutral towards chaotic evil.
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I like that. That's fun.
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If I had to give them an alignment, I was.
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Going to say so I take it that means you're the also the
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forever DM? You're we're I'm talking maybe
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to someone that gets it. I have DM DA couple of times
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I've been in this particular group.
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We we have been pretty good about sharing DM duties like we
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and then like, like if I'm busy on a Friday night, someone else
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will step in and run a one shot in within my world sort of for
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better or worse. Sometimes they give out really
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like cool loot and I come back and I'm like, oh wow, let me add
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some points to yeah, right. Let me add a lot more HP to this
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monster. Get that?
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I get that. So you started with 5E?
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Have you played any of the new like 2024 stuff at all?
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Not too much, still mostly sticking with 5E that that tends
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to be what I, I gravitate towards, I guess in terms of
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other players as well too. But I mean, I, I think there's
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some really cool stuff that 5.5 is, you know, or 2024 or
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whatever. Whatever they call it now.
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That, that, that that does like, I think there's some really nice
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balancing. I've heard both interchangeably,
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like 5.5 or 2024. Yeah, like I know there's.
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A lot of yeah. Next campaign we're doing right
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now is we're we're trying 5.5 and I'm playing with with guys
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who have been playing since like second edition.
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Like some of these guys have been playing since they were
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like 9 or 10 with their parents. And I'm I'm the newbie over here
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who knows 5E and 5.5 and that's it.
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And they're and how did, how does it feel so far?
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How are you liking it? It's good.
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The one like homebrew role that I pulled in was like, we will
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not use new counterspell. Like I want old counterspell
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'cause it's just not as fun in my opinion.
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Yeah, interesting. But but that's the beauty of
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playing a a tabletop game like this is you can make those kinds
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of rules for your table. Yeah, no, I agree with that.
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I think that's like when I'm at least maybe speaking on just
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myself and I maybe for other DMS and just players and stuff.
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I really like, like that freedom, I guess.
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I know like, because I, you know, I've played with other
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people that are, you know, I've been playing since like the
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third edition or second. You know, they like the little
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bit, especially 3rd edition of like Pathfinder, which I played,
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you know, some Pathfinder too. But they like like, I just
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really like how clear it is and like this is what that does and
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these are the rules for this thing and it's like this long
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for grappling and you know, that's a good joke right there.
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Get get that someone go look at the grapple rules from 3.5.
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It's like old page or something like that.
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It's like crazy. But like, I like the
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flexibility, I guess of like 5th and 5.5 of, you know, it more
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leads into that older style D and DI guess like more like AD,
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like first edition AD and D or like the Prout box stuff where
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it's just like, I don't know what the rules are.
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Yeah, that sounds great. Do it like, you know, just like
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me. Yeah, rule of cool kind of stuff
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I guess. Is is really.
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That's my personal philosophy is very rule of cool.
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Like if you if, if you can convince me that it's like
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possible and it's cool, then yeah, you can absolutely do it.
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Why not? Yeah.
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Or roll for it. Let's see what happens.
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Like figure out some way to make it a roll.
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OK, let's see what the dice tell you, if it really works or if it
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doesn't. So yeah, the flexibility of it.
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I wish I was better. One thing that I think I, I, I
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could, I could work on as Adm is, is my flexibility.
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Because I do feel like sometimes I'm like, yeah, go ahead and
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roll for it. But I know no matter what they
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roll like nothing is going to change because I don't have
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anything else prepared. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I mean
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it just you just kind of get better at it, I guess.
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Just like anything, right, Like the more you right.
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I mean, like anytime you're starting out something you're
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like it's got to be in this thing because it's what I know,
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but I don't know, maybe maybe that's just like a me thing and
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and you know, it's person to person just like I find it very
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easy to let that go and and be like, OK, well, I guess I'll
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make something up right now. Yeah, like quickly add this hit
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points here or like, OK, one more goblin or whatever to this
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encounter or two more just to make it balanced or something.
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I don't know, you know, and they'll never know.
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Usually they never. Right.
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If you're good, they'll never know.
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I for me, I'm like, yeah, it definitely let me Google a name
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for this NPC that you're going in a start block.
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That one cannot do it. Yeah, I'm very bad at names.
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I'm bad at names. Unless I have a random name
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generator or something in front of me.
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I'm I'm. I'm like yes, P tier Griffin.
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Tier P tier, that's good, I like that one.
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So what? Characters do you have then
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aside from because you you said you DM but I want to know what
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character else if you play. So most recently, I played a
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character named Greg who started as A and people who have
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listened to every episode, will may may remember this.
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I don't know it. It doesn't really matter.
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You get you get to listen again, guys, or skip whatever.
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I have this character named Grug that was in the last campaign we
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played. I he started as a goblin and his
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whole back story was he was like an adventurer pet.
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Like these adventures had like picked him up during like Cragma
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keep and, and then his whole adventure party had died.
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And so he was kind of like shaken by the fact that they had
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all died and he became like a spore druid and was super into
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mushrooms. And then we found a deck of many
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things and we played these house rules with deck of many things
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where it was like roll AD 100. There's 100 different outcomes
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possible. It's like 5050 on whether it's
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bad or great. And so he lost his body and
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became a lizard folk at some point and then had to change
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class from he changed from being a spore druid to like a a monk
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slash cleric. But yeah.
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He's my. Here's my my little He's got his
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part, his decaminity. He became his whole personality.
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He carried. He carried around a deck of many
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things and had people draw cards and ruin lives.
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Destroyed chaos. Unfettered chaos.
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I love that. Yeah, that's definitely a chaos
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agent. But yeah, that was that's that's
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one of my favorite characters I've played.
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I've played a few others, Ranger and I've played some magic users
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as well. I have, I have yet to play
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Warlock, which I am like anxious to try at some point.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think they're they're
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different in five 5.5 I think. They are, yeah.
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I just like the idea of like, yeah, I get my power from this
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other being and they're in my head all the time telling me
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what to do. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I same
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for me. I I I've never really like pull
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fully played just a Warlock, I think for exactly that reason.
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It's like it's a lot of stuff going on there, but it seems
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cool and stuff, but you know, I don't know.
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Also like the spell casting sometime just like was weird to
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me because I'm used to like just like the level spells and stuff
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but they have like a lot of different more cantrips and
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stuff but that's not. Used to having to cast it at
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like full level whatever you are.
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Yeah, yeah, I'll just, you know, this level 1 spell, but I know
23:03
it's always going to be level 5 or whatever kind of thing.
23:05
So yeah, it's just a little different, but I I can see the
23:08
the fun of them for sure, especially, you know, Ford is is
23:11
great. Everyone loves Ford from the
23:13
mighty 9, right? Eldridge Blast.
23:17
Eldridge Blast. Yeah, his and and like Ford's
23:22
back story is very cool and this weird like dynamic of am I good
23:29
or am I bad? Yeah.
23:32
Who knows? Who knows?
23:35
Have you watched any other actual plays that you are a fan
23:39
of? Definitely, I watched a few
23:42
dimension 20. Dimension 20.
23:46
Yeah. I mean, that's, that's great.
23:50
Easier for me to consume I feel like because they do hour long
23:53
episodes and it's only and and the season is like 12 episodes
23:57
and then you're done right? Yeah, Yeah, I don't think of
24:01
any, you know it, I feel like mostly now I I really just watch
24:04
Critical Role. But like when I was first
24:06
getting into DND and stuff, you know, I mean when I have time to
24:10
watch or listen to things really like it's just like trying to
24:14
keep multiple series going. You're like these hours of
24:17
content to catch up on. But yeah, mostly Critical Role
24:20
now. I, I feel like back then I was
24:23
trying to listen to a bit more stuff when I was more current, I
24:26
guess with with Chris. Well, then you get into like a
24:28
touring band or whatever and you know.
24:31
Yeah, you miss a week or two and then you're like, oh, no.
24:35
Oh, here I go. So I think I listened to to
24:38
like, I think Yogscast used to have one, maybe.
24:45
I can't remember what that one's.
24:48
Called high rollers. High rollers.
24:50
I think that's what it's called. But yeah, so that I I the, the
24:54
DND official one that they used to have, I think that's camera
24:58
action is what it was called. And that was a long time ago.
25:01
That was fun too, because they were just going through cursive
25:03
Stroud when that module just came out.
25:05
So like that was really. And that's a great module.
25:08
So yeah. That was one of the first
25:12
modules we I I played through was was Chris of Stride a lot of
25:15
fun. That one's really fun.
25:17
That one's really fun. Yeah, I'm not DM Ed that.
25:20
I don't know if I could. I feel like it's a lot want to,
25:23
but I don't know. I don't know how well I can
25:25
Stroud. Yeah, it's a lot.
25:28
It's a lot because Stroud's very, very active.
25:30
Very active. Very.
25:32
I mean, that's like what makes the module so great and what
25:34
makes him such a great villain is and and fun to play as Adm.
25:37
But you know, you have to you know, you, you be very active
25:41
and be very like in the face and like, yeah, like showing
25:44
yourself to the the party all the time.
25:45
You're not just like the in the back, right, the wizard in the
25:48
back or whatever behind the screen.
25:50
You're you're like, I'm going to just come up and, and just just
25:54
to not even just to, you know, fight the PCs and, and like
25:58
actually like kill them, but just to like intimidate them and
26:00
be like, yeah, you got no hope kind of thing, right?
26:03
Like there's no chance you're never going to touch me kind of
26:06
thing. Just to rub salt in the wound
26:08
and then just leave, you know, and, and the PCs are just like,
26:13
this is terrible. I can't like, you know, so.
26:16
It just the mind. Yeah.
26:19
Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep. Very like cerebral mind games.
26:22
Yeah, it's very cool. So let's talk video games for a
26:29
minute, because video games were also on your list.
26:32
What kind of video games do you play?
26:34
It's a, it's a broad thing, right?
26:38
Yeah, that is a broad question, but a very fair 1.
26:41
I feel like, you know, a lot of people play a lot of different
26:43
kinds of games lately, lately I've been playing again through
26:47
Baldur's Gate 3 because I'm, I just can't, I can't get enough.
26:51
I, I just can't. And I'm in between games.
26:55
So I just, I need the fix. So like in Baldur's Gate 3,
26:58
just, you know, in Act 3 right now.
27:00
So having a grand old time in Baldur's Gate, the city as well.
27:06
Yeah. Aside from that, I play a lot of
27:09
JRPGS and stuff like that too. I, I really like that stuff, you
27:13
know, like Persona and and things like that.
27:15
It's a great because they're another favorite games of mine.
27:18
So mostly play well, I guess I, I, I split my time pretty evenly
27:21
between PC and console. Mostly just PS 5 is what I would
27:26
plan for console. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:30
So yeah, I wanna, I guess a lot of Japanese games is really what
27:33
it is, the RPGs like, you know, the like a Dragon series,
27:37
persona, all that stuff. And, and actually this new game
27:41
that just came out, what it's called on on Steam that I've
27:44
been playing is the Fields of Mystra, I think Mystria.
27:47
Mystria. Have you heard of that one?
27:48
Yeah, I've heard of that. It's on my it's on my 2 week
27:52
playlist at some point. My my Steam wish list, right?
27:55
As if I didn't have enough Steam games already that I haven't
27:58
played. Oh yeah.
28:00
Well, tell me a little bit about that.
28:02
What's what, what piqued your interest there?
28:04
And how's how's that going? I, I mean, it's, I kind of just
28:08
kind of got started on it 'cause you know, I've been pretty
28:10
occupied with Ballersgate 3. But when I do pull myself away
28:13
from that, I have been playing that and like I've just been,
28:16
I've been watching it for a while.
28:17
I bought it in early access and like tried it and I was like,
28:20
this is cool. Like I like that, but it just
28:23
recently fully released, I think in like August or so.
28:25
So but it it it, it I just really enjoy Stardew Valley.
28:29
Like that's one of my favorite games.
28:31
Like it just, it's such a comfort game, I guess, very
28:34
relaxing. So yeah, so you know, it's it's
28:38
very similar in that regard, you know, 2DS Sprite style and, you
28:42
know, farming and stuff like that.
28:43
And yeah, very Stardew Valley, yes.
28:45
But, you know, so it's just a little, it's something new in
28:48
that vein, right? We'll continue to wait for a
28:51
concern date to maybe do something like a sequel, maybe
28:55
another Purdue. Valley the Haunted Chocolatier.
28:59
Is that, Is that what his? I don't remember What?
29:03
What they're working on. Yeah.
29:04
I don't know. Something like that.
29:06
You get in the comments make fun of me for not knowing anything I
29:09
don't. Remember.
29:11
But I think that's right. It sounds.
29:13
It sounds correct to me. Right.
29:15
Yeah, at least if it's wrong, we were both wrong and we'll suffer
29:20
the consequences of the Internet.
29:22
That's right. You're both wrong, yeah.
29:24
Chris wrong about concern. Eight games.
29:26
Stand in stand in solidarity. Yeah so that's if you really
29:32
like Stardew valley I I mean it's it's a nice like fix in
29:35
that same kind of and I just really also like the art style
29:37
that they kind of used. The art style is just so, so
29:39
great, like it's that 80s nineties art style, but you
29:42
know, kind of updated a little bit, you know, so it keeps that
29:45
soul and and that just that stuff just like gets me right in
29:47
the right in the soul. I love that.
29:49
So it's like, OK, I'm going to get that game.
29:52
Yep. So I'm easy, I'm easy like that
29:55
got an 80s nineties art style. I love it and.
29:59
So so are you. We'll, we'll, we'll do another.
30:02
This is a smooth transition. This one feels good.
30:05
We'll we'll transition into anime.
30:07
So are you like an 80s nineties anime style lover, enjoyer of
30:13
older anime or? Pretty much, yeah.
30:18
I would say pretty much all anime, yeah.
30:20
But I mean, definitely I gravitate more towards the older
30:22
stuff, I guess. If I have to pick, I definitely
30:25
don't keep up to date because there's just a lot of shows that
30:28
come out and only so much time in the day.
30:31
If you're trying to divide it between watching anime and DND
30:34
and actual plays and games and being in a band and making
30:38
music. There's like new seasons of
30:41
anime that start like every three weeks.
30:43
And I have a friend who will message me and she'll she'll be
30:46
like, have you tried these three animes?
30:48
And I'm like, I haven't tried the last 14 animes that you told
30:51
me about, but I'd love to. I'd really like.
30:56
So many hours in the day here, like I'm doing the best I can,
31:01
you know? So, yeah, so I, I guess, you
31:03
know, I mean, that's just like nostalgic stuff, you know,
31:05
'cause growing up in, in like the late 90s, early 2000s, like
31:08
tsunami and stuff. Like, you know, that's, that's
31:11
the stuff that they had. So, you know, you just, you
31:14
know, when you're in your formative years and you see that
31:16
and you're like, yeah, that feels really good.
31:17
Or you just don't see anything like that on TV really back
31:20
then, you know? So it's just so different that
31:22
it just really sticks out in that kind of way.
31:24
And yeah, so there's just a lot of great shows from that.
31:27
But yeah, I, I, I do really gravitate towards 80s, nineties
31:30
and like 2000s. Well, even the 20 tens a little
31:32
bit too, I guess. So yeah, all anime.
31:36
All of it. I mean, I got a whole that too
31:38
and everything. I've got a whole sleeve and
31:41
everything for my favorite show which is Fooly Cooly so.
31:45
I love Fooly cooly. Oh good, it's.
31:48
Only like 6 episodes, right? It's only 6 episodes.
31:50
Really, really short, yeah. Yeah, only 6 episodes was the
31:54
most wild. It's crazy.
31:57
Most of the wall energy, Yeah. I've I've known some fully
32:01
coolly enjoyers in my past, but I don't I don't know that I've
32:04
ever met someone who who was their favorite and definitely
32:06
not enough to get a full arm, a full a full sleeve.
32:11
Oh yeah, man, I love that show so much.
32:15
So yeah, that's my favorite. Yeah.
32:18
In terms of recent anime, I've been, I mean, I've been keeping
32:20
up to date with the new ghost in the show that just came out.
32:24
So yeah, new series more based on the manga, but this is the
32:29
old major, I guess from, you know, the movie and stuff, just,
32:31
you know, just a great movie. But yeah, so that that's that's
32:36
probably the only like current anime that I'm really like, OK,
32:38
I'm going to make, I'm gonna, I gotta make time to make sure I
32:42
see that because I just I really like that series, especially
32:45
because it's more close to the manga.
32:46
So, you know, it's just it's, it's, it's different than like
32:50
the other stuff that we've had in that kind of universe.
32:53
So it's very cool. And it looks great.
32:55
So, so I'd love to hear some like tour stories from when you
33:00
guys were in Japan 'cause I know you were there earlier this
33:02
year, right? We were, yeah.
33:04
It's back in April. It was my first time ever being
33:07
in Japan. So this, that was really full
33:10
circle, big life moment kind of thing.
33:12
I've been wanting to go for a long time.
33:14
Yeah, very cool. And you guys were a hit there
33:17
from from like the clips of shows I've seen.
33:20
Yeah, it was pretty crazy. Japan really shows up.
33:25
Japan really did show up. Yes, that's true.
33:27
Yeah, it was pretty nuts. Like, yeah, every show was sold
33:31
out. Every show was sold out like
33:33
within like 36 hours or something, you know, if like
33:37
posting it. So like we had to add like
33:39
another show and change venues, upgrade venues and stuff.
33:42
So it was, yeah, it was kind of wild, you know?
33:48
Did you get to do any like anime touring or like visit?
33:52
I mean, how, how is that connection?
33:54
I don't even know what question I'm trying to ask, but I feel
33:56
like you know what I'm what I'm getting towards.
33:58
Yeah, I think I do. I think I know what you're
34:00
trying to ask. Yeah.
34:01
Like after the tour we did 6 shows and that was like that
34:04
first week basically that we were there.
34:08
I think we got in on like Saturday night and then Monday
34:11
through like that next fall and Saturday that was the shows.
34:14
So we did all those shows. So you know, we got to see a lot
34:16
of Japan firing from starting from Osaka going all the way up.
34:20
But you know when you're on tour, you don't get to see
34:21
necessarily all that much, but but it was still great.
34:25
And then after that, IA couple of us stayed a little bit
34:28
longer. A couple of the guys stayed I
34:30
think for like another four or five days maybe.
34:33
And then Cody and I stayed like an extra week or 10 days because
34:39
like, if I'm over there, I'm I'm gonna make some time.
34:42
You might as well do it. Yeah, do the thing.
34:46
Exactly. Yeah, so and I mean in terms of
34:49
like anime specific tourism or whatever stuff, I did get to go
34:54
to Akihabara, which was great. You know, I know just, I know
34:59
it's not necessarily the best place to shop sometimes these
35:01
days for things, but you know, it's just like when you've been
35:04
an anime fan for 20 more or more than 20 years or whatever, and
35:11
you've just been seeing like I can help her all the time, You
35:14
know, from all the shows or like, you know, media and stuff
35:17
that you consumed back then online and YouTube and or
35:20
before, you know, on like new grounds or whatever, and or, you
35:24
know, whatever, whatever other random places you would go to
35:27
and, you know, pre YouTube, dominant Internet and social
35:30
media dominant Internet. Yeah.
35:33
Like, you know, it's one of those things that I I should go
35:35
and, and see it kind of thing. So I went there.
35:37
I got a number of figures, which actually that where is it?
35:41
That one right there. This is Sendo from Hachimeno
35:45
Rico, which is one of my favorite shows.
35:46
I love that show. And that was so that was a pick
35:48
up from Akaru. And that's just a nice statue.
35:51
It's actually more of a statue. But anyway, yeah, I I did get to
35:55
do a little bit of tourism in that regard.
35:56
So that was that was nice. But I tried to mostly do like
36:00
just other stuff as well, non anime tourism things.
36:04
Right. Yeah.
36:06
Like it's a beautiful. Country just so much.
36:09
Yeah, there's so much. Yeah, one of these days I'll
36:13
make it out there. My daughter also is a big, it's
36:17
funny 'cause she won't watch anime with me, but she is very
36:19
interested. She'll watch like she loves
36:23
Studio Ghibli, but she won't watch any anime with me.
36:30
My son, on the other hand, we watched, we watched My Hero
36:34
Academia. It's kind of hard to find anime
36:37
that is like age appropriate for like a 10 year old, but yeah.
36:42
Yeah. Yeah, my so So what are your,
36:50
what are some of your other favourites?
36:51
Like what other stuff are you into?
36:55
In terms of animate, well, so we've got Fuliqua Legos from the
36:58
show and I just mentioned Hajimeleko, which is like.
37:01
That is. A a newer, I guess addition to
37:05
like one of my favourites of all time, like within the past
37:07
couple of years. I just absolutely love that
37:10
show. That's if you've never seen it.
37:12
If any one of you have never seen it online, you have to
37:15
watch it like. It's crazy.
37:17
It's. So good, it's so good.
37:20
I like I don't even care if you don't like boxing or sports like
37:23
just watch it. You'll, you will you will enjoy
37:26
it. It's so peak.
37:30
But from that I really like like the Satoshi Kong movies too.
37:36
If you're familiar with his movies like like Perfect Blue,
37:39
Millennium Actress. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:42
Yeah, like those. They're they're beautiful
37:44
movies, you know, You know, rest in peace cone son, But he was
37:50
awesome. Those those movies are so, so
37:53
really well done. Paranoid Paprika, paranoid
37:57
agent, you know, big. I love serial experiments Lane.
38:03
That is a great show and and seriously.
38:07
Watch. Serial experiments Lane and
38:12
especially watching it like now, it's very interesting.
38:18
Like how predictive it was of certain aspects of like the the
38:23
Internet and the modern day and stuff.
38:25
It's very cool, but a very good show.
38:29
And this is my two watch list. I love that that's like that era
38:34
of, of anime watching like these, like 12 episode arcs is
38:40
just a ton of fun. And like I have, I have some on
38:45
DVD because that's how you used to have to.
38:47
Watch them back then. Like I have like Escaflone on
38:50
DVD and Witch Hunter Robin and I have all of I have all of the
38:57
original Full Full Metal Malcolm, Full Metal Alchemist on
39:02
DVD. That's a great show.
39:05
I had I I love that show, maybe one of my favourites and I had
39:09
to watch it like as it came out 4 episodes at a time on DVD that
39:14
I would pay $20.00 for. Classic, classic.
39:20
Yeah. I feel that, man.
39:22
I feel that. Another one I I like another one
39:24
from that that era that I I still love, I still think is so
39:28
funny as a lucky star. You know that show.
39:32
I don't. I feel like it's.
39:34
A slice of like comedy here. That's all right.
39:36
This is, this is sometimes there's deep cuts, you know,
39:39
this is like, you know, late 2000s otaku stuff.
39:44
You know, very cute chibi characters.
39:47
Chibi characters. It's, it's, it's a very funny
39:49
show, kind of parodies a lot of like the, the, the scene from
39:53
that time. So a lot of like Hardy, Susan
39:55
Mia parodies and stuff. Yeah.
39:59
And then, you know, just, yeah, parody, general parodies of
40:02
Japanese culture and stuff. So it it, it's, I think it's
40:04
still pretty funny, some pretty funny.
40:07
Moments in that one in terms of like more recent shows, which
40:10
one I really you know I I feel like it hasn't been talked about
40:15
in a while, but like if it had did you ever see darling and the
40:19
Franks? You know this show I.
40:20
Love darling and the Franks. I have a 0 to nendoroid
40:25
somewhere. This is the second time I've
40:26
talked about nendoroids recently and they're not on my desk
40:29
anymore. I have one of her and I have one
40:31
of gojo from Jujitsu Kaisen. JJK yeah, nice, nice, but I so I
40:37
loved that show and then just got super wild, which I mean is
40:41
classic studio Trigger because I mean I also love I just love
40:45
studio trigger that like Killa Killa is another one yeah, Killa
40:48
Killa is another one that I really like that that was a
40:50
great. This is my era of, of anime that
40:53
you're you're talking about for sure.
40:55
That I really love. Oh my gosh, there's Fire Force
41:02
and the one Death Eater. Death Eater Death.
41:07
Is that what it's called or death parade?
41:11
No, I. Remember Death Parade?
41:13
That was a great show. It's not Death Eater, it's
41:15
something else. What?
41:16
Why? What is wrong with me?
41:18
I don't know. There's fire force and fire
41:23
forces related to Don't Come at me, the Internet Soul Eater is
41:31
is what it's called. Yeah, yeah, I know that.
41:34
Love the anime, the anime style from that in particular, those
41:37
two is is like speaks to me on a on a different level.
41:41
And they're very they're I don't know if you watch Fire Force,
41:43
but they're like tangentially related to each other, but
41:49
definitely by like the same studio, same same artist, very,
41:55
very unique style. I feel like right?
41:58
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
42:00
I definitely, I've definitely seen Soul Eater.
42:02
I haven't seen Fire Force, but I'll definitely add that to the
42:05
growing list of things that I need.
42:07
This is a growing list of things.
42:09
To watch and just so much stuff. Yeah, good stuff.
42:13
You'll never get to because there's just so much of it.
42:17
One day, right? But you keep telling yourself
42:19
one day you'll get to it and it'll be great.
42:22
But here we are. You mentioned you mentioned
42:26
sports and boxing in particular. I think it was something that's
42:30
very cool about anime and I've watched a few that are like
42:34
this, but it will have like this very specific niche.
42:38
Like I watched one about like a they played like a specific
42:43
Japanese instrument. And that's kind of like the
42:45
whole premise is, is it's more like slice of life and it's very
42:50
focused on that facet of their life.
42:54
Or like Hockey U where they play volleyball.
42:58
Yeah. I love that.
43:00
Or the yeah. What is the one that they play
43:01
soccer in blue? Lock.
43:04
Blue Lock, Yeah, is the more recent one, yeah.
43:07
Sports that I like know almost nothing about, but like all of a
43:11
sudden I'm like, Oh yeah, I know a ton about volleyball, what are
43:14
you talking about? Yeah, right.
43:15
And I know all these. I was like, I know all the
43:17
insurance and outs where you shouldn't stand.
43:18
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
43:20
Yeah. No, it's a thing.
43:22
It's a real thing. I think like the first one that
43:24
I remember doing that well, I it's like apparently credited
43:29
like with even bringing basketball over to Japan or like
43:32
making it so big as Slam Dunk, which is like a a 90s anime,
43:35
which is that is a great show too.
43:37
Again, you really like that 90s style.
43:40
That's that's got it in spades, but Slam dunk is great like
43:43
Prince of Tennis. Yeah, Captain Tsubasa, how'd you
43:47
gonna go Blue Lock IQ sports anime are fun.
43:50
There's just, I don't know, I I used to play sports, but like,
43:53
you know, so maybe that's why, but I don't know.
43:57
I really like sports anime. It's interesting.
44:01
I just, I love, and I mean, I guess that kind of speaks to
44:04
like the whole premise behind the show, at least in its
44:06
current iteration of what it is, is like, listen to people talk
44:10
about like this cool niche stuff and like get real deep into it.
44:15
And it's it's just a lot of fun learning about these things that
44:20
I wouldn't otherwise get to experience.
44:25
So fantasy novels is another one that you listed on, on your
44:28
things that you're interested in.
44:30
That's. Right.
44:31
Let's let's dive into that for a little bit.
44:33
What are your favorite series? What What are your favorite
44:37
books? Favorite series?
44:40
Favorite books? Well, let me see.
44:44
I got, I got to look at my shelf.
44:47
I got to just quickly peek over at my shelf real fast.
44:53
Yeah. I mean, really it's mostly just
44:54
something that I've been recently kind of getting back
44:55
into because I used to read a lot more when I was younger, you
44:58
know, and and I maybe this is familiar for a lot of people out
45:02
there, but, you know, listen, read, read a lot more when
45:04
you're younger and kind of fell out of it, you know, as or
45:07
whatever as you grow up. And I don't know, it's just like
45:09
a goal this year of just like, I want to just read a little bit
45:12
more and like just get back into reading fantasy or science
45:15
fiction and, and, you know, or something like that.
45:17
So you, you mentioned it earlier, but like the big one
45:20
that I've been crushing through this year is Dungeon Crawl and
45:23
Carl. It's so good, it's great.
45:26
It's so. Fun.
45:28
I have an episode with Amanda from Emo Kids Anonymous where
45:33
that's that's all we talk about. Amanda and I talked about that I
45:36
worked on when we met. Her and I have talked a lot
45:42
about dungeons, Crawl and Carl. We have like an hour and a half
45:45
of of of it recorded and then some, right?
45:50
Yeah, I, I believe that, Yeah. Yeah.
45:54
So she told me that it gets like because I just started book 5
45:57
and she was like you, you got. It so good right around then.
46:02
So like I'm I yeah, I just started it.
46:05
I wanted I have one I was just reading, which is like a a
46:09
classic book Neuromancer. I was just finishing this one.
46:13
Just kind of I felt like I should read that, but I try to
46:15
no, because I feel like I can just like get burned out if I
46:17
just go ham into DCC, you know, just like go crazy.
46:23
I try to, I try to break it up every now and then.
46:25
But yeah, I just started book 5. It is great so far.
46:29
So I, I will, I promise, Amanda, if you watch it, I will let you
46:34
know what I think because. Keep us holding the Luke.
46:38
Yeah, I can do that. I would.
46:40
Love to know what you think, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
46:43
I just started rereading it actually.
46:45
I'm just I'm just wrapped. I'm in the prologue of book 1 on
46:49
my on my second read through, but I've I've also like read
46:54
around in the Series A little bit, but it's.
46:57
It's great. It's great, yeah.
46:59
I mean, I, I think it's one of those series that like if
47:03
someone asks me to recommend something to them, I'm just
47:06
like, you know what? Just read the it's, it's fun,
47:09
it's easy, it's light, but it's like really good.
47:12
It's just like it. It's brain candy in a way.
47:15
You know it. Just it.
47:16
Yeah. It just it's a great story and
47:19
and and it's a great it Scratch is just fun, Yeah.
47:23
It scratches. It's just that you didn't even
47:24
know you had. You know, it's, it's it's very
47:26
good, yeah. Especially I feel like if you
47:29
grew up maybe like playing online games or you know, like
47:32
World of Warcraft, which you know, I did of course, because
47:35
I'm just the turbo nerd or whatever I'm.
47:39
Right there with you, buddy. Yeah, man.
47:42
Yeah. But you know, you know, you just
47:44
like it. It it really scratches that itch
47:48
for me, I guess in the sense of, you know, online gaming or, you
47:52
know, stuff like that and show setting and just, you know,
47:55
general pop culture and and things.
47:56
But in in just done in such a a fun, refreshing kind of way that
48:00
it's, you know, not beating you over the head with it sometimes.
48:04
I guess, you know, sometimes that must stop.
48:06
The pop culture bait can get a little much in my opinion
48:09
sometimes. And I think Matt Denman just
48:12
does a great job like. He does very good.
48:15
It's like it's like Ready Player 1, but that's without being just
48:21
copious lists of pop culture references.
48:25
That's exactly right. Yeah.
48:26
It's just like Ready Player One, but just a little bit more
48:29
fresh, I guess. So yeah.
48:32
Aside from aside from that, you did ask, like my favorite series
48:36
again. I have to look at the shelf
48:38
because I'm otherwise I won't remember.
48:43
Well, I, I mean, I, I don't want to bring up any old wounds for
48:47
anyone, but we're all waiting for book 3 of the King Killer
48:51
Chronicles. Patiently, maybe some just not
48:54
so patiently. The one that I like. 14 years,
48:58
right 14. This year I read that book while
49:01
my wife is pregnant. Yep.
49:05
Pat Pat for authors, please, Pat, please, please do it.
49:10
For me, Pat, listen me, Pat. Do it for Phil, for Chris, for
49:14
Chris Paul from Millington. He does so much for the world,
49:19
the least you could do is write book three of the King Killer
49:21
Chronicles for Phil. And May you can call him Phil,
49:28
you can call you. Can't call me Phil if you want.
49:31
Look it up. What a great guy.
49:33
We're just so grateful of the trombone players sitting here
49:38
asking for books very nicely, very nicely.
49:43
So yeah, that I, I, I mean, that's a great, that's a great
49:46
series. I, I like, I, I feel like I read
49:49
it originally, like back when it was first coming out, but I
49:52
reread it recently. I was like, this is yeah.
49:54
And I remember why I was upset that it wasn't coming out yet.
49:58
Like really wanting. It very good.
50:00
It is. It is really good.
50:03
What else have I been? I also read a bit of this book
50:16
called The Poppy War, which is like a part of the series.
50:20
Yeah. So I started that one and that
50:22
was really good too. I was doing that.
50:25
But again, DCC kind of takes over.
50:27
So that's. That's kind of it.
50:30
Do that. Yeah, So, you know, I mean, Lord
50:34
of the Rings was is, you know, was a was a big one growing up
50:37
for me too, you know, like the, you know, the Aragon and that
50:43
kind of stuff, right. Because that, that's that's.
50:45
Naming books off my shelf. I've got DCC here.
50:50
All this is right here. Yeah.
50:52
You know, so no big deal. Yeah, but it's.
50:54
It's been like a really nice thing to get back into doing
50:56
and. And I really just enjoy it a
50:58
lot. Yeah.
51:00
And, and there's a lot of like really good fantasy stuff that
51:03
I'm looking forward to. I guess really is when it comes
51:06
down to in terms of what I'm looking forward to reading, just
51:08
based on what I've heard or what I've read and things that
51:12
inspire other things like there's like Purdue Street
51:15
Station, I'm really looking forward to reading that.
51:20
Empire the Vampire. That 1 is really good from what
51:23
I've heard. Jade City, which is like another
51:27
sci-fi 1. So yeah.
51:29
I haven't read any of these, but I am excited to add them to my
51:31
list as well. I heard they're really.
51:34
Great. Let me know how they are when
51:36
when you when you've gotten to around to them.
51:38
I sure will. I can definitely.
51:39
If you ever want to dive into like an Avengers style, like
51:43
non-stop so many books, anything by Brandon Sanderson, he's like
51:49
all of these, this whole, this whole row of shelves is
51:52
Sanderson. I, yeah, So I've been, I've been
51:55
very eager to start Sanderson because like I, I know how good
52:01
it is, but I also, that's part of the problem is I know how
52:03
good it is. So, so like Mistborn, I have up
52:07
there somewhere too. And I was like, that's the one
52:10
I'm going to start with because I do have like the first, the
52:13
first one, the storm storm like Chronicles too.
52:16
That's the right right place to start for sure.
52:19
That's what I that's what I've heard, so I'm very definitely
52:22
looking forward to that. And eventually in the next
52:27
decade or so, it it goes from fantasy and will morph into more
52:32
of a science fiction experience, which is kind of cool if you
52:37
like both. So.
52:38
I do so that's good. I like this.
52:40
I like this suggestion. Fantastic, really liking.
52:44
Well, we are just about at time. What's Millington up to?
52:47
I know you guys have more touring in your future.
52:50
You just released a single. We did.
52:53
We did. We just released a single.
52:55
It's called I won't surrender. It's it's definitely a little
52:58
different than maybe what you last heard from us, that's for
53:01
sure. But I like it a lot.
53:04
I. It's.
53:04
Great. Thank you, Bill.
53:05
Thank you. Thank you.
53:09
Yeah, no, it's, it's been very fun to play live.
53:11
I will say that, you know, ripping that out and and working
53:14
on that was is great and it's fun to see how that goes off.
53:17
Yeah. In terms of touring and stuff,
53:20
yeah, we've got we're we're hanging down to Ska Supernova
53:24
Fest, which is not this weekend, next weekend around do the DC
53:29
area, I think. So if you're in that area and
53:32
you want to come see us play, that's where we are.
53:34
Aside from that, we got, we got, I'm really excited to be jumping
53:38
on what's that called the silver screen con with Ice 9 kills in
53:44
Worcester, right? That I'm very excited for that
53:47
because I love Ice 9. Where is that again in Worcester
53:50
area? OK.
53:52
Yeah, so Worcester, MA thought about.
53:55
I've been thinking about driving up there, which is foolish.
53:57
I, I, I, I couldn't, I never could.
54:00
But I would love to be there for that experience.
54:02
I think. I mean, wow.
54:06
Yeah, that's, that's cool. Yeah, that's going to be really
54:10
cool. So it'll be really cool just to
54:11
meet, you know, to talk to Spencer and all the other guys
54:13
in nice line and stuff like that.
54:16
Yeah, and then get that collab set up because, you know they
54:19
love their horn sections. Well, they do, they do.
54:22
They used to. They used to be a ska band way
54:25
back in the day. Everyone knows that.
54:28
But yeah, so that that's really, that's probably the big one.
54:32
Well, aside from Orlando Wharf tour as well that we have coming
54:34
up in November. We'll be there for that.
54:37
That's also going to be really fun.
54:38
Maybe we'll see Phil there as well.
54:40
You might, you might see me Phil there.
54:42
Phil is going to be at Orlando Wharf Tour probably.
54:46
Will Phil do press there? We'll see.
54:49
Maybe, but maybe. Watch Millington 100%.
54:52
Thank you, Bill. I'm making, I'm making room.
54:57
Thank you, thank you. And then I can keep you up to
54:59
date on how I'm getting through because hopefully I'll be like
55:02
well into book 6 or 7 by that point of DCC.
55:06
So I can definitely be like, dude, dude, like that was crazy.
55:13
Because I'm sure that is exactly what it would be like.
55:15
Or maybe I'll have started Mistborn or something.
55:17
I don't know. I'm sure there'll be plenty of
55:20
things. Yeah, aside from that, through
55:22
the end of the year, we have just our couple other shows.
55:26
We have a Midwest run I think in earlier in November or October
55:29
and then ending it off with a little Holly show in Albany.
55:32
And then we got a lot of big stuff coming next year.
55:35
I I know that's like the most cliche thing right of any band
55:38
to say it's big things coming, but there genuinely is.
55:43
Excited for the big things? Pretty.
55:45
Exciting things. I would assume there's some more
55:47
unannounced music coming that cannot be confirmed or denied,
55:51
which is fine, but pretty excited about it either way.
55:54
Thank you. Yeah, Yeah.
55:56
Well. Check out Millington, if they're
55:58
coming anywhere near you I would recommend stopping at a show.
56:03
Ask Chris about the new crawler. Carl, you know, please do.
56:08
Please. Do ask me about anything.