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Best of Chuck & Buck 11-24 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: They're really a great asset that they've brought in.
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  Speaker 2: Donald with time going up top for Jackson Smith and
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  Speaker 2: chick Buck drops it in the bucket and he wonked
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  Speaker 2: back pedal for a touchdown. Comes pressure from Witherspoon in
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  Speaker 2: Troubler's war down it goes they brought pressure that time
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  Speaker 2: Witherspoon from the secondary and Byron Murphy ends up with
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  Speaker 2: the sack. On second and four, play action Darnald to
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  Speaker 2: the end. Zon Spif then Chekeba with his second touchdown
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  Speaker 2: of the day thirteen yards, and Seattle storms down the
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  Speaker 2: field to grab six out of the locker room for Seattle. Defensively,
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  Speaker 2: pressure comes war to trouble. Williams has him in the
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  Speaker 2: sack sixth second of the year for the Vet Leonard
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  Speaker 2: Williams and he brings up fourth down. Donald back to
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  Speaker 2: Charbonnay bouncing to the end. Charboney talks the goal line
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  Speaker 2: touchdown Seattle five yards, scamper per Zac Charbonay, we.
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  Speaker 3: Got one game, ball man, and this guy's uh right now,
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  Speaker 3: this guy's the best.
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  Speaker 4: Receiver in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about it set the Seahawks single season.
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  Speaker 1: Record for most yards and what.
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  Speaker 2: Week is it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, thank you the Fox for those headlines highlights. I
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  Speaker 5: mean it's not those aren't headlines. What I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 5: now is headline.
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  Speaker 6: But I do want to welcome you guys all in.
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  Speaker 5: This is Chuck and Buck in the Morning Show with
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  Speaker 5: Ashley Ryan and No Illinois boy, Illinois boy illinoying boy?
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  Speaker 6: Oh did I say that out loud?
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  Speaker 2: Ck Burr?
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  Speaker 6: I did this?
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  Speaker 5: Gotcha on that one? Here he's asleep. I like shade
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  Speaker 5: him when he's not here. We are back and Chuck
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  Speaker 5: has taken a few days off and enjoy the week
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  Speaker 5: off for Thanksgiving. We got these first three days with you,
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  Speaker 5: and we are going to talk to Greg Bell here
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  Speaker 5: in a second, but first you want to go over
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  Speaker 5: a couple of the highlights that happened over the weekend.
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  Speaker 5: The Seahawks obviously did win at Tennessee thirty to twenty four.
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  Speaker 5: They moved the ball well, didn't necessarily finish in the
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  Speaker 5: red zone the way that they need to, and a
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  Speaker 5: couple other things. Some misstackles a punt return for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: The next thing you know, you're a on site kick
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  Speaker 5: away from things getting a little hairy. But they held
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  Speaker 5: on and ended up holding serve and still find themselves
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  Speaker 5: in second place, right behind the Rams.
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  Speaker 6: They are at eight and three. The Rams are at
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  Speaker 6: nine and two.
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  Speaker 5: Krack and win and lose on Saturday and Sunday in
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  Speaker 5: a back to back, they won three to two in overtime.
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  Speaker 5: I'm on tour ended up getting an overtime goal in
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  Speaker 5: that one to win. On Saturday yesterday they have a
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  Speaker 5: zero zero game that goes through overtime and then into shootout,
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  Speaker 5: and sure enough, it's about as close as you can
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  Speaker 5: come to winning and not winning. They made their first
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  Speaker 5: goal in the shootout, then it got stuffed on the
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  Speaker 5: next two. The cords stuff the first two, gives up
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  Speaker 5: the third one if he if he finishes there and
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  Speaker 5: blocks that third one, we end up.
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  Speaker 6: Winning that thing.
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  Speaker 5: Instead. They score on the fourth one and we do not.
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  Speaker 5: Oh excuse me, I didn't. I don't know if that
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  Speaker 5: went over the air and whatever, off button talk whatever. Anyways,
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  Speaker 5: the Huskies end up smoking UCLA. We just did talk
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  Speaker 5: about that. That was the kickoff to hates Giving for Ashley.
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  Speaker 5: It will culminate with hates Giving a week from Saturday
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  Speaker 5: when the Ducks come into town, and she'll celebrate Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 5: in the middle of it. But that might be the
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  Speaker 5: last trip to the Rose Bowl. We shall see how
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  Speaker 5: that whole thing works out, but they end up if
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  Speaker 5: that is a final time they play, their sands are
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  Speaker 5: outside of a Rose Bowl appearance. A forty eight to
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  Speaker 5: fourteen win over UCLA will be nice, big night for
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  Speaker 5: Demon Williams. Two touchdown throws and two more on the
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  Speaker 5: ground or was it one touchdown throw too?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 6: I think it was two.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, you dubbed soccer team advances as well, both of
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  Speaker 5: them do. The men beat SMU one zero to advance
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  Speaker 5: to the Sweet sixteen, and the women's team beat top
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  Speaker 5: seeded Virginia five to four in penalties and they're headed
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  Speaker 5: to the Elite eight in the NCAA Tournament. So kudos
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  Speaker 5: to them. Go score goals, men and women. Before the
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  Speaker 5: show started today, we ended up catching up with Greg
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  Speaker 5: Bell pretty much as he was boarding his flight back
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  Speaker 5: from Tennessee, and we found out what he was thinking
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  Speaker 5: about the Seahawks win this weekend.
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  Speaker 7: With the Bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
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  Speaker 7: time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell. Brought to
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  Speaker 7: you by Copola Diamond Collection, Prosecco, Chris Smartly with Bright
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  Speaker 7: Fruit flavors to make every toast shine game date bubbles
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  Speaker 7: only with Copola Diamond for SECO. Now with twelfth Man News,
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  Speaker 7: here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Bud Well.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome in. We got g Bell here.
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  Speaker 5: He's getting ready to fly back from Nashville. I think
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure he's got his cowboy boots on. He might
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  Speaker 5: have taken the spurs off. Good morning, Greg, How you
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  Speaker 5: doing brother, I'm good man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the FAA doesn't like spurs.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense. Still got your chaps on, though,
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  Speaker 6: I would imagine for the for the.
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  Speaker 4: Ride, chaps pat playing the part.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, as I mentioned, best NFL city, there's some good
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  Speaker 8: ones with the Nationals.
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  Speaker 4: National's pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, off the air, we'll have to discuss. I've
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  Speaker 5: had some pretty good times in Nashville over the years,
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  Speaker 5: But I don't think averyone wants to hear about that
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  Speaker 5: right now. They want to hear what your thoughts are
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  Speaker 5: on this game. Obviously, the Seahawks go to you know,
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  Speaker 5: travel cross country and pull off a w against a
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  Speaker 5: one to ten Tennessee team and yet far closer than
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people thought. Myself, I know you were
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  Speaker 5: not thinking it was going to be quite as close.
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  Speaker 5: What was the overarching reason as to why the game
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  Speaker 5: came down to a six point game at thirty to
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  Speaker 5: twenty four.
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  Speaker 9: Well, they got slopping the second half, Bucky, it was
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  Speaker 9: a thirty.
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  Speaker 4: To ten game.
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  Speaker 8: It was twenty three to three. They scored twenty three
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  Speaker 8: on answered points. They won the game by early in
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  Speaker 8: the third quarter, late in the second and then it
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  Speaker 8: just got sloppy and the offense stalled. The defense gave
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  Speaker 8: up a couple of touchdowns. It was a cosmetic touchdown
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  Speaker 8: with forty seconds left in the game when it was
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  Speaker 8: thirty to seventeen. So the final score was not at
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  Speaker 8: all indicative of how most of the game went, the
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  Speaker 8: part of the winning part of the game decisively to Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: They were alarming things though, in that.
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  Speaker 8: The defense again the defense again controlled most of the game.
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  Speaker 9: Sam Donald got away with three passes it should have
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  Speaker 9: been intercepted, including on the first drive of the game
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  Speaker 9: that could have been a ten to pick six cornerback
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  Speaker 9: out in the flat with Kenneth Walker that should have
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  Speaker 9: been intercepted, but Walker broke the pass up and they
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  Speaker 9: ended up getting a field goal on the next play.
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  Speaker 8: There was no one between the cornerback and the other
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  Speaker 8: goal line. If Walker didn't peel back and break that
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  Speaker 8: pass up, Donald should have never thrown it. Two other
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  Speaker 8: passes that should have been intercepted.
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  Speaker 9: Better team, that result may have been different, and Donald
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  Speaker 9: certainly would have added to his NFL leading turnover total
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  Speaker 9: against a better team.
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  Speaker 10: That'sway Greg, I have to ask you, So, this is
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  Speaker 10: the second game that I've really noticed that. And I
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  Speaker 10: hate picking on the defense because they have been really
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  Speaker 10: incredible to watch, but we're missing I'm seeing a lot
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  Speaker 10: of missed tackles and there was quite a few yesterday
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  Speaker 10: where it's like, yes, you're almost getting to cam Ward
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  Speaker 10: and then all of a sudden, you know he's dumping
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  Speaker 10: it off to someone and that person's turning that into
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  Speaker 10: a fifteen yard game where it should have probably been
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  Speaker 10: a tackle for a loss.
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  Speaker 11: Are they are?
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  Speaker 10: Is the defense? Like, are there just some things they
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  Speaker 10: need to clean up? Is that something that I should
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  Speaker 10: be concerned about?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 8: And yes, Okay, it's been a season long problem and
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  Speaker 8: we've talked about it a couple times on your show.
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  Speaker 4: But better teams are going to exploit that.
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  Speaker 8: Cam Ward on third and fourth down yesterday exploited that
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  Speaker 8: his receivers after the catch.
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  Speaker 9: Exploited that because they had a big lead, they didn't
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  Speaker 9: lose the game.
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  Speaker 4: Because of it.
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  Speaker 9: But also their defense played minus four starters coming into
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  Speaker 9: the game, four injured starters. Ernest Jones, their best tackler
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  Speaker 9: and their centerpiece of defense, didn't play.
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  Speaker 4: He was inactive and injured.
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  Speaker 9: And then they lost a fifth, Tyle Cotter, who is
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  Speaker 9: a phill instarter, got injured during the game. So half
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  Speaker 9: their defense was missing. I mean, every team in the
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  Speaker 9: NFL is injured.
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  Speaker 8: There's no excuse that they have to play, but there
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  Speaker 8: are mitigating factors to explain it. But even having said that,
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  Speaker 8: when they were almost full strength, which they haven't been,
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  Speaker 8: as we mentioned fully on defense, and then the second
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  Speaker 8: edition is the fifth play of the season, but when
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  Speaker 8: they're almost close to full strength, they still had tackling issues.
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  Speaker 8: It's now going on December. This is almost who they are.
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  Speaker 8: It's tough to fix that problem.
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  Speaker 4: This late in the season.
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  Speaker 8: But they get Julian Love back, and they hope this
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  Speaker 8: week against Minnesota they'll get Ernest Jones back. They're gonna
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  Speaker 8: get better than they were yesterday. I keep saying this,
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  Speaker 8: Are they good enough to beat the Rams. Are they
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  Speaker 8: good enough to beat the forty nine ers? And if
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  Speaker 8: they aren't, they're gonna be on the road in the
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  Speaker 8: playoffs in January. And they're back where they were for
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  Speaker 8: the last month or last decade. But I hear you, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Been a season long shoe on defense.
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  Speaker 8: For all the great things they've done defensively, tacklings are
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  Speaker 8: made an issue.
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  Speaker 6: It has.
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  Speaker 5: And yet, I mean maybe that's the sole concern going
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  Speaker 5: into it, because you know, you look at numbers and
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  Speaker 5: it just kind of felt that way. I mean, not
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  Speaker 5: all wins are the same, not all six point wins
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  Speaker 5: are the same. You're right, you end up jumping out
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  Speaker 5: to a big lead and you don't necessarily have to
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  Speaker 5: play perfect or or do everything right in order to
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  Speaker 5: pull out the w. And yet that's a team I
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  Speaker 5: think my confidence and yours, you know, you were very
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  Speaker 5: confident going into this too, that they would be able
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  Speaker 5: to win by a lot bigger margin than six. For sure,
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  Speaker 5: to me, it was I watched this team play the Titans,
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  Speaker 5: that is, and I didn't think this is a team
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  Speaker 5: that was capable of manufacturing long drives, and so what
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  Speaker 5: was it that was enabling them to continue to move
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  Speaker 5: the chains. I mean they end up almost doubling them
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  Speaker 5: up in time of possession over the course of the
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  Speaker 5: whole game.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, fifteen play drive to start and they turn them
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  Speaker 9: away in side the five yard line.
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  Speaker 8: And that's why I became a field goal instead of
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  Speaker 8: a touchdown right off the top. But I am well, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: that short short third downs is the problem. And if
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  Speaker 8: you in the NFL, if your short third downs, the
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  Speaker 8: offense can do anything they want to in their playbook.
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  Speaker 8: That's what happened yesterday. Tennessee short enough third downs, they
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  Speaker 8: often went forward on fourth down. Of course, they were
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  Speaker 8: trailing the game and chasing the game, so they had to.
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  Speaker 8: But Seattle didn't do well enough in the early downs
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  Speaker 8: to make third down long so their pastorists could get
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  Speaker 8: after cam Ward, and Ward was elusive in the past rush.
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  Speaker 8: When they did pass rusts after they lost containment, they
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  Speaker 8: allowed Ward to extend plays.
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  Speaker 4: All of that so I'm repeating myself.
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  Speaker 8: But there were a lot of concerning things about yesterday
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  Speaker 8: that a better team, that result might not have been
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  Speaker 8: the same.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, something that I don't think think any of us
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  Speaker 10: were concerned about. Well, we might have been going into
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  Speaker 10: the game would Grayzabel play?
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  Speaker 11: Well, he did. He's amazing.
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  Speaker 10: Mike McDonald called him unbelievable for being able to play.
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  Speaker 10: Seven days later, you wrote an article you said, he's
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  Speaker 10: quickly becoming.
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  Speaker 11: A folk hero. How impressive is greys Abel?
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  Speaker 4: He's all that in a bag of chips.
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  Speaker 8: Actually, he is beyond beyond what they thought they were
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  Speaker 8: going to get with him.
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  Speaker 4: They knew he'd start from day one.
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  Speaker 8: They didn't know he was going to not give up
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  Speaker 8: any sacks all season long. They didn't know he'd play
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  Speaker 8: off of a serious looking knee injury seven days later
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  Speaker 8: against one of the best interior defensive linemen in the
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  Speaker 8: league and Jeffrey Simmons. When I talked to him after game,
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  Speaker 8: he was humbled by Simmons.
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  Speaker 4: He said that I joked with him at the start
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  Speaker 4: of the interview.
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  Speaker 8: I said, so now you're indestructivile too, meaning he played
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  Speaker 8: off the knee injury and he was thinking about Simmons
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  Speaker 8: still and he said, no, no, no, far from it. Simmons
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  Speaker 8: ninety eight is a great player, and he gave it
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  Speaker 8: to me and I was watching him some of the binoculars.
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  Speaker 8: He still blocks two guys on one play, Simmons got
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  Speaker 8: him a few times, especially quickness off the snap, and
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  Speaker 8: he had a false start and a holding penalty.
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  Speaker 4: But really good and he is.
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  Speaker 8: He's solidifying that offensive line and the left side with
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  Speaker 8: Charles Crofts signed at least through next year, and they're
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  Speaker 8: going to try to work on extension compared to I mean,
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  Speaker 8: think of Lake and Tomlinson and the guys they've left guard.
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  Speaker 8: He's a quantum leap and he's only a rookie. He's
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  Speaker 8: gonna only get better.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if we're going to talk about people
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  Speaker 5: that are really good, probably shouldn't go too much further
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  Speaker 5: without talking about Jackson Smith and Jigba. I mean, breaking
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks singles season record. The guy just continues to
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  Speaker 5: get it done, even though you know he's got to
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  Speaker 5: be the focal point of every defense he's going against.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 8: They cover and they bracket him, they shade safeties over
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  Speaker 8: to him, and he still gets opened. He it was
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  Speaker 8: the touchdown the sixty three yard yesterday was an improv route.
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  Speaker 8: It wasn't called that way when they saw they had
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  Speaker 8: a safety manned up on him when he went in motion.
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  Speaker 8: So that's when Smith and Jibobs changed his route and
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  Speaker 8: then that play was made because the offensive line gave
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  Speaker 8: Darnold time. Often he doesn't get that much time to
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  Speaker 8: have out Smith and Jigg but a run a forty
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  Speaker 8: yard route from left to right, and that's what he did,
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  Speaker 8: and he was able to cross the.
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  Speaker 4: Field and become open.
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  Speaker 8: And when you have that much time, you're often going
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  Speaker 8: to get Smith and jigbit open.
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  Speaker 4: But that play, in particular, sixty three yard touchdown. Guys,
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  Speaker 4: he looked to me like Jerry Rice.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's high praise. I would say we ended
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  Speaker 5: up getting cut off there a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 5: that they might have just yanked the phone out of
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  Speaker 5: his hand and told him buckle your damn seat belt,
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  Speaker 5: bell and take your spurs off. I'm not sure exactly
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  Speaker 5: what went on there, but it is what it is.
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  Speaker 5: We ended up getting quite a bit out of him,
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  Speaker 5: and it actually leads us right into something that I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to talk with you about, was the Jackson, Smith
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  Speaker 5: and Jig. But I mean he did he does look
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  Speaker 5: like Jerry Rice. I mean at this point, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that's a huge praise. And I bet if Hugh Millon's
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  Speaker 5: listening right, he's like you watch your mouth.
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  Speaker 10: Well, and to be fair, Greg said, the way he
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  Speaker 10: was able to move his body and the way the speed, Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: the off speed and things.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's the part that is the most impressive. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I expect every NFL wide receiver to catch the ball
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  Speaker 5: when it's thrown right to his hands, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: there's more difficult catches and easy ones, and he obviously
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  Speaker 5: does that. His route running. Everybody knew coming out of
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  Speaker 5: the draft that he was really good at that. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Hugh had broke down how this guy's played with some
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  Speaker 5: elite NFL wide receivers and yet he's known as the
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  Speaker 5: top of the heap. He's the one that is known
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  Speaker 5: as kind of having the it factor when it comes
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  Speaker 5: to being a receiver.
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  Speaker 6: We saw him last year.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he had a great year last year, and
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  Speaker 5: yet he was still we were always talking about why
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  Speaker 5: isn't DK used more, Why isn't this and that DK's gone,
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  Speaker 5: and now he's the focal point. I don't think anybody
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  Speaker 5: was envisioning him doing what he's doing now. He brought
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  Speaker 5: he breaks the Seahawks single season receiving record as far
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  Speaker 5: as yards go with six games to go. Still, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: DK had the record. He ended up beating him this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Eleven games. He's had three games that he didn't go
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  Speaker 5: over one hundred yards. Yesterday it was his first game
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  Speaker 5: with multiple touchdowns, and yet that second possession of the
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks was the first. Was that that long touchdown and
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  Speaker 5: it si the sixty three yarder that basically they got
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  Speaker 5: that and they never looked back at that point.
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  Speaker 6: It was.
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  Speaker 5: There's just stuff that he does and I can't wait
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  Speaker 5: to ask you about it because he's going to be
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  Speaker 5: able to dissect it far better than I can. But
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  Speaker 5: it's the it's obvious to me the idea of being
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  Speaker 5: able to recognize where the ball is and where it's
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  Speaker 5: going to be when it gets there, and that's something
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  Speaker 5: that you can't measure.
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  Speaker 6: That you can't. I don't care how many times you
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: do the you can't measure it. Now.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Good scouts, NFL scouts, I'm sure can see that a
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: guy does it right where it's oh, that might be overthrown.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: And they turn on the jets right and you see
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: some guys that they slow down for some reason and
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden they miss it by two inches.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: It goes off their fingertips. I think Jackson Smith and
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Jigba has maybe the best that I can remember as
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: far as the ability to win the balls in the air.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: He just recognizes what to do, and that one was
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: a prime example of I'm sure it's something that wide
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: receiver coaches try to teach guys. Where he's going, he's
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: running full speed, he recognizes where that ball is going
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: to come down, so he slows down just a little bit, forces,
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: you know, the dB to be Oh is it going
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: to be underthrown right? I don't want to do pi.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: I don't want to run into him. I can't run
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: through him. And then all of a sudden, the last second,
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: he speeds back up and just puts his hand on
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: him just a little bit, not a push off, doesn't
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: extend his arm just enough, like yep, that's as far
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: as you get to go, because I know the ball
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: is going to go right over your outstretched arm, and
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: then you know, breaks that one tackle and takes it
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: to the house. But it just as I mean, watching
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: this guy week after week, when you know that the
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: opponent is saying, we can't let this guy go off
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: on us again, and yet you know, Tennessee not a
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: great team, but you know they I'm sure that their
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: thought was, we got to keep this guy from beating us.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: And he still gets catches eight balls for one hundred
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: and sixty seven yards and two touchdowns. Pretty pretty unbelievable
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: season so far for this guy.
• 18:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah, he's really fun to watch. He's incredible.
• 18:26
  Speaker 10: Just on that sixty three yard touchdown to see like
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: the way you're talking about, yeah, that he slowed down
• 18:31
  Speaker 10: and then kind of took that extra step to pick
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: up speed again and the defender just stumbles because he
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: can't figure out what's happening and keep up. I mean,
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: he makes it look really easy, and it's I just
• 18:43
  Speaker 10: find it so funny because I don't hear him being
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: talked about like we hear the great wide receivers get
• 18:49
  Speaker 10: talked about, And here he is just dominating the NFL
• 18:52
  Speaker 10: this year, and yeah, people cannot can't stop him. And
• 18:57
  Speaker 10: you know that was the thought last year after when
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: DK or in the off season when DK left, was well,
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: now you know, now everyone's attention is going to be
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: focused on JSN, So how is he going to do now?
• 19:06
  Speaker 10: The only reason he was really good last year was
• 19:08
  Speaker 10: because everyone was focusing their attention on DK but clearly
• 19:11
  Speaker 10: that was not the case.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, unbelievable.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: I'm excited to hear more from from Hugh and we'll
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: have him from eight to ten and Coach will be
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: on for Mondaymoron Quarterback at from nine to ten, and
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: so I can't wait to hear their takes on this
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: kid and how amazing his season has been so far. Well,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: we'll dive into more of that as this show goes on.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: On the other side of the break, we were going
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: to discuss the Crack and they ended up winning one
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: and losing one back to back. Kind of a great
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: win and then a little bit of a heartbreaker yesterday,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: But we'll talk about that on the other side. Here
• 19:41
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• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Here's Chuck and Buck. Welcome back to the Chucking Buck
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: in the Morning Show. It is the time that everybody
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: has been waiting for. It is the time when we
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: get to talk to the one and only Hugh Breedlove.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Milon.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: You know that your middle name is coming up whenever
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: I'm the one driving the bus. Rights all good, Yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: it's all good.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: It's the coolest middle name in the history of middle names.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: I'm not kidding. I don't know that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it as a kid, but but it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: my uh my grandma on my dad's side, grandma Grandma
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Grandma Jean was a breed Love. So yeah, it's pull
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: family name. It's a great cool it almost sounds like
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a native it does you know a Native American.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, breed love sitting cloud. Yeah, yeah, I could.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: I could see that. I could be with you guys.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Good good to have your brother. Yeah.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I I obviously uh Seahawks uh end up pulling out
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: the w right. Any any win in the NFL is
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: is something that you just say, ollkay, we'll chalk that
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: one up. And yet it was different than what you
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: don't make predictions and give scores, and understandably so because
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: it's I don't think anybody really knows what the heck
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: they're talking about when we do that. And yet I
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: didn't think it was going to end up being as close.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: General thoughts that you got that you took away from it,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: considering you you went against what is now one in
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: ten teams and you you came it came down to
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: whether not there getting an on side kick and you
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: maybe start sweating it a little bit overall the tops.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I think you touched on it. I think that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you get a win on the road in the NFL,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you stay healthy. You know, think of on a golf
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: on a score courts, there's an index for every hole,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the handicap on the hole right, and and and so
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you look on a seventeen game schedule. This these Titans,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: this was the easiest hole. This is a short par
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: four with a wide fairway and a really relatively accessible green. Right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and now the difference breaks down, you say, well, I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: would expect, you know, try and birdy that. But you know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: in football it's you know, it's it's like par or
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: not par, win or not win. Right, So so you
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: get your par. What if you like to maybe played
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the whole a little better, fine, but you know, I
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: think it's real a couple of things for me. That
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: was a really emotional game last week against the Rams.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: So now you're you're flying across the country. The Seahawks
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: have been great, going to three time zones, playing at
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: ten am.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: There.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Their inability to you know, to step on the throat
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of inferior teams has not been a problem. Think of
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the Norns games, Think of Jacksonville, think of Arizona. You know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: they they have been about as good as anybody in
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that regard. So if if I told you before the season,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks are going to win all their games against
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the poor teams, but one of them, you know you're
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: gonna get a late touchdown less than a minute I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: don't know. Did they backdoor cover?
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: What was the spread? I sah, yeah, it was like
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: thirteen and a half.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Right, okay, so so they backdoor cover under a minute.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I just don't think it's a problem. I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: think that uh, what if it would you you like
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: to be a little better? Yeah, but I don't think it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's one of those things where you say,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: this is really a phenomenal job of keeping your your
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: throttle down, and so it's they're worthy of praise. I
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: don't think they're worthy of criticism. I just think it's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: kind of one of those It wasn't the best job,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: but it was, Uh, it was sufficient. And in the NFL,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you just pick up your ball and you go to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the next hole.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: Yep. No, I'm with you. I'm not one.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: I mean you got to give credit where credit's due.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: It still is an NFL team. It's not like they
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: were playing you know, wasn't UCLA No, exactly exactly the
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: NFL equivalent of the Bruins.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: Man that was that was that was ugly. We'll get
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: into that maybe a little bit later as well.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Hugh. I mean to me, if there was an amount
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: of criticism that I would give. It would pretty much
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: go up to and stop at there's a recipe that
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: you you try to come up with, right all week
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: you're thinking about it, what do we need to do
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: to beat this team? The recipe that they had I
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: don't feel would probably beat a superior team. Let's just
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: go back a week against you know, Matthew Stafford. If
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: you allow an opponent to go six for seventeen and
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: third down, which isn't horrible, but five for seven or
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: four for seven, I keep mixing that everything. It was
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: five for seven on fourth down. You're probably not going
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: to win that game. Now, again, you don't get to
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: fourth downs unless you're they're not going to go for
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: it seven times unless you're ahead by multiple scores, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: so it kind of plays into that. So just reading
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: the whole thing, it just felt like, Okay, if you
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: get if you jump out to a lead, then I
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: want you to put somebody away. And yet that's not
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: it's not necessarily something that needs to be overly criticized,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: like you're saying, right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you're yeah, you're up by two touchdowns with forty
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: seven seconds to go in the game. One of them
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: was a ninety yard punt return. So right, the defense
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: until forty seven seconds to go had yielded ten points.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You know, look, they backed off the gas more than
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: they had in those other games that I mentioned. So
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: so yeah, you know there's also some guys that were
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: playing that that are not you know, Ernest Jones wasn't
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: playing that. That's a big factor. So some of the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: mistackles we saw. We saw some really good play by
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: by Patrick O'Connell when he was playing in a phone booth,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: but when he had to play out in space, he
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: showed some of his his limitations. Although I thought he
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: played a pretty gay game. You know when when it
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: was up, when you're up thirty to ten, okay, they
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: hit you for a post on a post wheel concept
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: up the right sideline. Well, the flat defender he has
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: what's called CFW, a curl flat wheel in that in
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that coverage, Well, you have him to the flat and
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: what's the W part of it wheel? You got to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: take him up the sideline. Well, that was in a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: zone blitz with boy Mafey off in the flat. He's
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: not going to cover a wheel, So you know that
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: good on them. They they hit you on that time,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: third and then there was a time where they played
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Cover two and I mean I had to watch it
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: like four times. I'm like, wait a minute, that's a
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: two deep five under the middle guy. That's that's what
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you call him the Michael linebacker. That was Josh job Like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: what the hell is I haven't seen Josh Joe play
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the the hook zone in cover two the entire season. Uh,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you know there's a scramble. And by the way, cam Ward,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I've studied this guy a long time. My son started
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: against him twice in college, so I've seen him live
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a lot. He played for the Cougars. I studied a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: ton of them in Miami. The thirty third team asked
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: me to present him a few weeks back. I've watched
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a ton of cam Ward. That guy. He doesn't have
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: elite athleticism. He has very good athleticism, but he has
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I would say borderline elite feel in the pocket. Now,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: sometimes he's late and he doesn't have elite anticipation by
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: quarterback standards, but when he starts playing that that off
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: script game, you know, I mean, his his ability to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: feel open spots in the pocket is his next level.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And he didn't have a great team around him. But
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: but he kind of burned the Seahawks. I thought, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: thought that was a big factor. A number of times,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: his his kind of instincts in the pocket was tough
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to defend. I mean, there was a time where he
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: uh he he scrambles forward on his zone coverage and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and and that was the one with Josh Job over
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the middle, and and he does a no look pass
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: on third and five. I'm like, what the I mean,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: who's doing no look passes other than Patrick Mahomes And
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and then and then there's an intensity. I mean that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: he has a scramble touchdown and you look at guys
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: were playing so tall and just kind of catching block.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You would almost think the whistle blow and the Seahawks
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: just stopped playing. There was just a noted lack of intensity.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: But the score was thirty to ten. And you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Patrick O'Connell missed. You know, he's he's not in there.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: And then twenty three. I always want to call him,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it's de Anthony Bell. So they had guys in there
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that are hardly ever in there. Those guys were the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: ones at the point of attack. So I think I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: just think it was a lot of different factors. I
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: don't expect it to carry over. And I'll tell you what,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I bet you Mike McDonald on that plane was driving
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: back or driving back, flying back and saying that that's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: perfect because we won the game. We stayed healthy as
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: far as I know, we don't have any additional injuries,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and yet we got some lessons we can We can
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: talk about focus, we can talk about breakdowns and in
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: ways that you couldn't in some of you know, the Commanders,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Cardinals, the Saints, all of those total blowouts,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: it's harder to get the team's attention about, hey, this
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: is a breakdown here. We got to fix this. And
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: so they'll be able to point to some things and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: be able to fix them.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: Right Well, what he would need to be fixed when
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: it comes to our quarterback, I mean Sam Darnold. Good game,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: decent game, two touchdowns, no picks. It wasn't there was
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: a couple of balls that probably could have went the
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: other direction. But coming off of this game that he
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: had last week and all of the stuff that came
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: down after that, people were, you know, second guessing this,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: that and the other.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: How he rebound to you.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I thought he looked real good I think, you know,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: they're not to say he didn't have any minuses on
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: his sheet, but but he cranked up the big plays.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: He was productive. He you know, he navigated the pocket.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're going to be talking about
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: those JSN touchdowns here in a minute and some of
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: his progress. But his reads were for the most part good.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I think there was a couple of times, you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: he had he threw that out route down in the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: red zone off to his left, that JSN was a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: little too high for him. Uh, that was a press
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: coverage what's called oki route. That's that's kind of hard
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: against press coverage. Had he worked the combination on the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: front side, he had Cooper cup wide open. Uh, might
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: have been a walk in touchdown on a little choice
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: route where he broke inside. So I think his recognition
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: on on that and and a couple other plays where
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: he you know, I think he predetermined some routes. It
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: looked like he predetermined to throw to Receie Chihat on
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: that post where he got hit. So I would I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: would I would dig him for his pocket awareness in
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the pre uh determination. But I think they're still working
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: on resid shaheat and trying to get him. But because
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: when when they were acquire Rashid Shaheed, it felt to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: me like, Okay, that's just kind of a luxury acquisition.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I don't quite feel that way now. I feel like
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit more of a necessity with Tory
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Horton's injury, and while Cooper Cup has been a great
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: addition in terms of in the building and how he's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: impacted others, notably JSN and and everybody, so I think
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: it's almost like you acquired a coach, but it has
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: not been productive on the field. So I think that
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Rashi Shaheed was more of a necessity. That's my opinion today,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: more so than it was on November fourth when he
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: was acquired. And so they're still trying to work like
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: they had a wrap route where they had Aj Barner
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: kind of sit and try and hold the cheese for
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the linebacker and then you're gonna he's at the short
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: level Barner, and then you're gonna get an inbreaking route
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: with Shaheed coming in behind it. Well, Sam Donald reads
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: there's a initially at the snap of the ball, he
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: sees a safety or to his left. Okay, this'll be
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald. We're in shotgun, we see the staate okay,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: safety is over the apparently over the top of of
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba to double him over the top,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: but we have to confirm that on post snap and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: then and then now post snap, the safety comes down
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to play in what's called the hook zone. So think
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of in this defense. It was I've I've referenced it
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to now baseball infield and outfield. So imagine the guy,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: that guy who's ultimately going to be in the shortstop position.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: That's the hook zone defense on the left. But he
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: starts kind of in left center. Got me so pre
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: pre snap he's in left center. Now he drops down
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and he's he's your shortstop. Well, Donald sees that and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: he wants to hold him up because the U to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: carry out the analogy Reichi, he is is going over
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the top top of this and behind the second baseman,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: going right over the middle of the field, right over
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the top of second base. But you gotta worry about
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the shortstop coming over who came down from left center.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: So Darnold sees the coverage. He's trying to hold him up,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: but Rashid Shi he doesn't. He's flying like a bat.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Out of hell into the next window and in zone.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Those are the type of things where where you see
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: JSN just intuitively, he just knows. He's just like I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: know exactly how to be quarterback friendly. I'm gonna turn
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: my full numbers. My quarterback wants to see my front number,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: my front jersey number, as opposed to my side jersey number,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: which he would see if I was screaming through. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna show you my front numbers that I'm
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: idling down in boom and then you get an easy completion.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: But for them to have missed on that play, Eliza Royo, Man,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I had done my homework last week about all the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: second round tight ends, where the hell is the list?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: But you're getting nothing out of Eliza Royo. So you know,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: there's some things I would have liked to have worked
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: on for Sam Donald. But so I think those are
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: still a work in progress, and hopefully before you tee
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: up the RAMS on December eighteenth, you can still develop
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: these things.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Right, and there is time for that. I mean, we're
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: getting close to it. But I do want to ask
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: one thing. When you're talking about being familiar, right, you
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: were talking about Rashid Jahad and they're trying to figure
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: that out. I think Arroyo might fall into that same category, right,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: he was just drafted and he had training camp versus
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: you see the picture before training camp where Jackson Smith
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: and Jigbu and Cooper Cup and aj Barner and it
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: wasn't you know Barnell was there too, where they're all
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: getting ball thrown to them by Sam Donald. So how
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, we don't have much time, but how easy
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: is it to acquire that familiarity?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: It takes a while, the precisions in the details. Some
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: guys are easier to read. There's more of a cohesion
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: early on with guys there's a mess. Obviously. Sam Darl
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: came in and he could just read JSN like like braille. Right,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: others guys it takes longer. Rashichi, he doesn't is not
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: as instinctive. But uh, and here's my list of my
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: kind of my beef. Now, uh, the way I works sometimes,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I have I have kind of a theme.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna take the kg A radio. Okay, I'm
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: gonna get I'm gonna give you Bucky a window into
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: my thoughts. And I say, wait a minute, I've watched
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: some tape I've got. I got a little hunch, I
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: got a little feeling in my gut. Let me see
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: if I can find some facts to kind of support
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: my my hypothesis. And and then I come and usually
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: if I can find those facts, I come in, you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: blazing on that take right.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: Candidly.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: My, my, the facts didn't support my hypothesis as much
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: as I had thought it does to some degree. And
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: then here's what I thought. I looked at Eliza Royo
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: coming into He's on the pace for twenty coming into
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: this week. Now it's uh, it's it's because he didn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: have anything yesterday. But he was on the pace for
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: twenty four catches two hundred and ninety six yards. I said,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at Trey McBride. Second round. They're both
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: second round picked. Trey McBride was the fifty fifth pick,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Arroyo was the fiftieth. Man. I bet, I bet Trey
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: McBride and his rookie year just smoked it. Well, not really.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: He only had twenty nine catches for two sixty five
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: almost so. But and then Pat Fryermouth for the Steelers, Ah,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: he had sixty catches for four ninety seven, cole co
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: met twenty eight catches.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: The big guy.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: The big guy, if I wanted to really bring it
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is Sam Laporta. You know, he had eighty six catches
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: for eight hundred and eighty nine yards. So I think
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a mixed bag. But for
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the most part, I'll hold to my my, my, uh
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: my take, which is that you're not getting enough out
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of Elijah royal To as of today to have justified
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: using the fiftieth pick on him. There's a lot of
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: time advance, As we said, Tredy McBride certainly vaulted from
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: year two and beyond, so so we'll see. But I'm
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: just looking and saying, how the hell are we gonna
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: beat the Rams. That's not necessarily what Mike McDonald's thinking.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: He probably has it in the back of his mind,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like we got to keep getting better. That's one thing
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I learned on Don. You'd learned a lot from your
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: high school or college baseball coach. I learned a lot
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: from Don James is you have to keep getting better
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: during the season. He would repeat that over and over.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: We have to improve, we got to be better, keep going,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: keep and so I think as we sit there and say, Okay,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: what can what can how can sam Donold be better
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: against the Rams? It's some of those things a better
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: feel where she'd say he maybe Eliza Royo poppin but uh,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you know, but let's not do anything to detract from
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: what's going on with j s n.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: Right. Well, we're gonna dive into that. I'm excited.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: That was one of the things last night that I
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: was I can't wait to hear what you think about this.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: How you can give us some insight of the tricks
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: of the trade that this guy obvious has. We'll dive
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: into Jackson Smith and Jigba in the record breaking game
• 39:04
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• 39:07
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• 39:29
  Speaker 2: They're really a great asshit that they brought in Starnold
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: with time going up top for Jackson Smith and Jagba
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: drops into the bucket and he walked back pedal for
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: a touchdown.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: That is Jackson Smith and Jigba. I am Bucky Jacobson.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: That's Ashley Ryan and we are joined for another better
• 39:50
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• 39:53
  Speaker 5: one and only Hugh Millan. Hugh that catch yesterday. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: want to dive into that a little bit because I
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: think you can give some insight. I'm watching it and
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: there's something about the recognizing the ball and I know
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: I've heard you talked about this before.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: You can dive into it further.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Like how quickly Jackson Smith and Jigbas seems to recognize
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: where the ball is actually going to come in relation
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: to how fast he's running whereas defender is because to me,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: it looked like he almost slows up, shields him off
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: with his body, then accelerates a tiny bit, puts his
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: hand out just not a push off, but just a yeah,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: that's as close as you get, and then it drops
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: it in the bucket. I mean, is there Are you
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: seeing the same things that I'm seeing or am I
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: imagining something when it comes.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: To this dude's ball skills?
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know this from outfielders, you know how
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: they have to track the ball right off the crack
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: of the bat. You know, that's that's a key component.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it takes you a split second longer
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you take a bad first step on an angle, then
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: you can make a play in the gap look really
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: difficult or not make the play, Whereas if you know
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: somebody who just has that in eight sense, they just
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: kind of glide over and they make it look routine right. Well,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: on that play third and six at the minus thirty seven,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: here's a a couple of key points. It's the Seahawks
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: are on a trip right. Trip's right, and the defense
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: would call that the JSN was he motioned over. He
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: lines up as number three counting outside in, so he's
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the inside guy out of three he's going. They were
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: able with the motion and everything in the coverage. They
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: were able to match up against a safety number thirty seven,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: a Monti Hooker. So Hooker is in outside leverage, he
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: has the coverages man and man. There's a post safety deep,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: but because they're only rushing four instead of five, there's
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: also a shallow hole player. So think of it like
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: a deep free safety in center field and then a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: shallow free safety in the in the in the low middle,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: so he's he's trying to funnel any in breaking route
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and he has outside leverage on an outbreaking route. So
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: as as Jayson goes up the field bay that now
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I just described the outside leverage. That's a horizontal relationship
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I'm describing. There's also what's called the high solder or
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the low shoulder. If he were to get excessively the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: defender excessively on the high shoulder, meaning way down the field,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you could JSN could cross his face and flatten it.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: But because he was more or less even, JSN says, okay,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: we're even I'm leaving, I'm going over the top. I'm
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: taking a high angle. But from a quarterback perspective, you say,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, that I got I'm trying to throw
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: an outbreaking route and the defenders on the outside leverage
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and JSN does not have elite long speed against a corner,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: but it's against the safety, so he has a step
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: and then now it's what you're talking about. Donald throws
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the ball high. It was The NFL measured it at
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: forty three air yards. That's from the line of scrimmage.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I calculated because I'm a nerd and a a square
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: plus b square to cease if you can calculate the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: uh the hypot news that's a fifty three yards in
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the air, okay, from the hand of of of Darnold
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: until it arrives at JSN. Now, as you said, here's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the part about JSN that has flat out elite as
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: good as as as any of the receivers who's ever
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: played this game. Wow, when he turns and and he's
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: locating that ball, as you said, he'll slow down, he'll
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: use his body and and and he also it also
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: did it in the red zone. And maybe we'll have
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: time to describe that. But that hand fighting, he's just
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: totally immune to the distraction. And then the hand push
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that you talked about, This is just the high IQ
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Michael Irvin had it. I played with him where there's
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: a subtlety to to It's like goldilocks in the porch.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Not too hot, not too cold. How much am I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: going to push off on the defender? Not too little,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I won't get the separation to make the play. Not
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: too much I'll get an OPI. It's just right, and
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: it's always just right with this guy. And then and then,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and then just the ability, the late hands ability. It's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: like if it touches his hands, it's it's like it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: like he's got I don't know, flypaper. That sounds like
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: a week old analogy. But but he just refuses to
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: drop a ball that is remotely catchaball, particularly those deep ones.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett had a little bit of that skill, but
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: this guy, Uh, just the but he would use his body.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: This guy can and just go with guys, you know,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: grabbing in his arms and knelbles and pushing and running
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: full speed and slowing down as you said. I mean,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: it's just incredible. It's also worth noting, uh that ball
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: was was held three three point zero seconds is what
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the NFL had that the the offensive line because it's
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: third down, there was a to the outside of of
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Abe Lucas was a what a five technique which is
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: outside the tackle, and then there's a nine technique way
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: out there. So the the Titans had widened their defensive
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: line what uh, in ways that you would never do
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: on first and second down. And so at the snap
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: of the ball, Gray's abel he's blocking the three technique
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: outside the right side of the line. Bradford and Lucas
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: are are blocking those guys and the the vision that
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: opened up, you could see a thousand pass plays. You're
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: never gonna see better, a better protection better.
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: It was like it was like seven on seven for
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. There was nobody around him, nobody in his vision,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: and he was able to uh uh you you watch
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: his steps and he takes three hitches on the play
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: because he thought he was going to a short of
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a shorter route, but he takes He's able to take
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: three steps and hold the ball and wait for all
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: this to develop because of how Tennessee played it in
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the pass blocking, so a lot going into that. But
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: JSN is just next level at finishing. That's what I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: put on my notes, how he can finish because you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: because one thing to go out, you know, unless you
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: have a guy that can actually close the sale when
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the ball is right there to be caught, the rest
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: of it doesn't matter.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I mean that's an awesome breakdown. We're going
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: to get a little bit more into that when we
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: have Homegun next hour, just because there's a part of
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: Greg Bell had said, I felt like I saw like
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: glimpses of a Jerry Rice and I just thought, oh
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: my gosh, that's a name to come up. But you
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: just said that his ball skills or that maybe it's
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: the finishing way in which he can finish is as
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: good as anybody that.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: You've seen, So I would not go ahead. I'm sorry. Well,
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying we're gonna get into that some more.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be able to have you and coach kind
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: of go back and forth a little bit about JSN
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: when we get him on the air.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: But Ice would not be my comp.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I'll just say that I got a couple other ideas,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: but Rice would not be my comp. That would be
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: interesting to see what Coach Holmgren says.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: I would have a hard time thinking he's going to
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: say he's his comp either, even while he's given him
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: as many accolades as he deserves at this point, being
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: the all time leading Seahawks receiver for a single season
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: is pretty impressive when you have six games to go.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: So on the other side of this, though, Hugh, I
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: want to get into a little bit about the college coaching.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: Situation at this point in time.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: We get some vacancies and whatnot, So listeners stick around
• 47:39
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• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Touchdown the sixty three yard yesterday. It was an improv route.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: It wasn't called that way.
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: When they saw they had a safety manned up on
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: him when he went in motion. That's when Smith and
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: Jicobs changed his route and then that play was made
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: because the offensive line gave Darnold time.
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: Often he doesn't get that much time to have out
• 48:53
  Speaker 9: Smith and Jiggy to run a forty yard route from
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: left to wreck, and that's what he did, and he
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: was able to cross the field and become open.
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: And when you have that much time, you're often going
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: to get Smith and jigg hoping.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: But that play in particular, sixty three yard touchdown. Guys,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: he looked at me like Jerry Rice.
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: His body control, his speed is changing of speed on
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: the defensive back.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: That was Greg Bell we had on earlier. We actually
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: had him on I think at like midnight or something.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: We had to have we recorded him before the show
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: because he was getting on a plane. He might have
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: actually been having a lady buckle his own seat belt
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: for him right there. But by the way, one thing
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: before I get into this, actually I did not realize
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: these guys, I mean, the knowledge and wisdom we get
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: from coach Holmgren and Hugh there's we must be paying
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: a pretty penny for that, because I mean, these guys,
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: there's like eighty seven sponsors for these.
• 49:47
  Speaker 11: There's a lot, yeah, I mean a lot of people.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people want to be attached
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: to you, guys. Well, there's one attach to me. I
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: think eighty six attached to Hugh.
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Well you got Toyota of Kirkland, so you've probably got
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: multiple cars from them.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: Are on our foundation special slapjacket.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: You got all kinds of you got all kinds of stuff, Coach,
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: and understandably so I would like to sponsor you if
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: I could. I have five dollars. Would that give me anything? No,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: just bring me the dip at Christmas? Okay, done, done
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: and done. Welcome back to Sports Radio ninety three point
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: three k yards the Chuck and Buck Show minus Chuck,
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: just Buck and Ashley. But the last hour we had Hugh.
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: We got all of his insight, or some of his insight.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: There's more in that big brain on. It always is more.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: There's always there's always more, Coach, but there's always more
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: in you. I called George Wisdom. Right now we get
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: the wisdom of the show. We had just played a highlight.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: We'll get to the general thoughts. I want to get
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: into this JSN thing first. So we just played a
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: little bit of the snippet of Greg Bell coming on earlier,
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: and he even threw out the Jerry Rice name and
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: in some of the things that he's seeing out of him.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: I talked to Hugh about it last hour, and yet
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: he hasn't got to get into his com shit. When
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: somebody says what they're seeing JSN do reminds them of
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Jerry Rice? Is there any part of you that's seeing
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: that or is it somebody else that you're seeing? Well,
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: you know, when I watch him play, this is js N.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm He's he's great. I mean, he is
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: really something. He's special.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I'm always I've always been reluctant to compare players, however,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: you know, because I've been asked many times. You know,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: you got you had Montanna, you had young, you had five,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: you had asked the fact, who was the best one.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm you know, they're all great, and they're all
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: great in their own way. Jerry Rice, though, is acknowledged
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: to be the finest receiver that's played the game. His
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: number has proved that he was bigger. He's bigger, bigger
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: man than js NU. But uh so, I'd be reluctant
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: to compare him. Yet jess N is just starting. He's
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: just starting in his career.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: But having said that, I watch him, he is really something.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: He makes it look easy. He's got great hands, he
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: knows how to get open, he understands defenses. It seems
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: to me very clearly. So he's great. I just just
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: put the brakes on just a little bit. Comparing him to.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: Jerry Rice, Yeah, I understand, Hugh. Where would you didn't
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: get to really say who your comp would be.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Well, the reason I look as far as as the
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: hands and the finishing ability. Jerry Rice came in the
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: league and he he dropped a lot of balls his
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: rookie year. There were people were down on him and
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and he just willed himself into having great hands and
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: he was dynamic run after the catch. The reason I
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: wouldn't camp Jerry Rice Mike is Jerry Rice was six
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: foot two, very high cut guy, long legged at six
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: foot two, and you know they say he didn't have
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: elite speed. Nobody ever caught him, But I just thought
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: that he had an ability. Rice's great uh impression on me.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I was in the NFC West Rams and Falcons played
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: twice a day. Mike coached him. So Mike has a
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: far better and intricate knowledge. But I would see Rice.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: He could get full speed going really quick, he could
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: stop really quick for a large man, and he could
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: accelerate back going really quick. So I think there was
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: a stop and acceleration elite part of his game. But
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the body control, you know. Again, Jerry Rice was a
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: taller guy and log legged. Deboot you've got in JSN
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: six foot and a half and short legged. So his
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: speed cuts and radius turns, they look different to my
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: eye than Jerry Rice. To me, I would say like
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: a Reggie Wayne would be a comp. Possibly a Tim Brown,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: you know, right around that height. Andre Risen I played
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: with Andrey Risen. Mike coached him in a Super Bowl.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I think Riisen would be a comp for me, you know,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: maybe Andre for the bills for those who can remember him.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: How about Steve? How about Steve Smith?
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Steve Smith, I would Mike, I would almost push him
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: into a shorter cat. You know, he was little stronger
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and stockier, so so I would put put him in
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: the five nine five ten stocky category. Whereas Rice, I think,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: you know Tim Brown, you know, Isaac Bruce and and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Tory Holt were around that height, but I think they
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: were skinnier.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: They were beautiful route runners. But I think in I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: think Isaac Bruce would be a smaller Jerry Rice and
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: in stylistically, but I would I would go with maybe
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: a Reggie Wayne. I mean, Reggie Wayne's at that height
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: has the fourth most amount of receiving yards in the
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: history of the NFL. That's a compliment to you to
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: say him, but uh, you know, and for guys, I
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: played with Andre Rise and had great body controlled due
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: to his stature, you know, strong legs, relatively short legs,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: but that allowed him to do those those quick radius
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: speed turns, Mike.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: So if he's just if he just wear a shirt
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: on the airplane, Andre Rison, then we could really compare
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: him to a lot of people, right, Yeah.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: The story there.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Then take us down that Yeah, take us down the
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: aisle on that airport.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: No, we signed Andre Rison and he helped us win
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and I really liked him. You know,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: he's a little bit of a wacky guy, you know.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: But first game he's traveling with us. We're traveling and
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I had always told the flight attendants, if there is
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: a problem of any kind, and we didn't have a
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: bunch of problems, but if there's a problem of any kind.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Come to me, don't go to don't go to anyone else.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Come to me and I'll handle it. She comes up
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: to me and goes, mister Homegern, I have I to
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: spit it out. What's wrong? Well, there's a young man
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: in the back. He's doesn't have any clothes, he doesn't
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: have his shirt on or anything, you know, and they're
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: eating dinner. So I go back there and rises there
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: he's eating no shirt. I go, how are you doing? Andre? Oh,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: good coach, he's a good food. I said, listen, let
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: me ask you a question. Look around the room and
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: tell me what's different. And he goes, oh, you mean
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: my shirt? I said, yes, yeah, you nailed your shirt.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I said. He goes, what I listen, I always want
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: everyone to wear all their clothes when they're eating dinner. Okay,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: so put on your shirt, and in the future, wear
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: your clothes when you're eating dinner. Okay, okay, okay, sure
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: he puts it on here, that's it, no reason.
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: Okay, well yeah.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: But getting back to the important stuff. No, he was.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: He was really good. But you know what, he had
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: trouble remembering plays? Oh he did, so, I told Farv
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: every time you call a play. Now he was new
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: to us. Before you break the huddle, look at him
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: and say do this. Just tell him he couldn't hear
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: the play, and say what to do? You know, I
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: get it, Yeah, I get it. I stopped playing in
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: high school and Ray Brown was my coach. I don't
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: remember him.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: He was a in the NFL with the Browns, and
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: he would get so frustrated because there was they'd call
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: plays sometimes and I'm like, I just beg.
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: What well, and He's like, go get the quarterback.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: No, okay, Rising. I coached a number of Pro Bowls
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: and you'd have you know, Herman Moore, you'd have Michael Irvin,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: the guys of Hugos and then Rizon and Jerry Rice,
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: all these great receivers. So I called plays from the sideline,
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: you know, and I get Rising. I go, okay, run
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: twenty two z in, which is a simple play ran
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: all the time. And he'd go okay, he'd run in there,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: which was twenty yards to the huddle, and Rynald mcdani
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: look over me, he goes Rising in that time forgot
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: I forgot.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: What to call, and I go okay, all right, So
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: he wasn't he wasn't the one with the green before
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: a green dots were a thing.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Then we're doing a disservice to JASN because JSN has
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: a football IQ apparently, Mike just watching the tape. Oh no,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: it's like next level stuff. He is what do you
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: see with him?
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: He is unbelievable and and he does it. He does
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: it all. And he catches the ball so well in
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: his body mechanics, and he's not a big, big guy,
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: but he boy, he is hard to cover and he's
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: always open. I'm going, how what are teams when they're
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: preparing for the Seahawks? You start defensively, you start, what
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: are we going to do about that young man? What
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: are we going to do? And no one's done it?
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: No one, in my opinion, has done it. Now I'm
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: looking at I'm looking at.
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Their defensive backs I thought were really bad, really bad
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: in that game, you know, from spacing and angles and
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff from contain on the run. I
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: just thought that they had a very poor game offense defensively.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Mike, you know, just picking up on his instincts. There
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: was a play the sex are down in the red
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: zone at the Tennessee thirteen yard line and on a
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: little on a five and in. I don't know if
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: you called it a China or finn whatever your terminology was,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: but but I'm watching this and Jaysn gets his right
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: foot is outside foot to a seven the seven and
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: a half yard line. But then as the play is
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: getting slow, he's going into the teeth of his own defense.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I believe on that one it was a two deep
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: five hunder, So he's going into the the curl defender
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: on the opposite side, Mike passed the hook defender, and
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: as he's going in there, Darnold is kind of moving
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: around the pocket. Jaysn loses ground and he goes. He
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: goes from the seven and a half yard line of Tennessee.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: He loses ground back to the eleven yard line. The
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: NFL categorized it as to two air yards. Now he
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: was able to avoid that guy and get the sideline.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: That was only he only got one yard out of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the play, so it's it's not gonna make anybody's highlight team.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: But Mike, I was sitting there thinking if I had
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: to wait for the next time I saw a receiver
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: do that lose that much ground? Instinctively to help the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: quarterback and get in front of that zone defender. I
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: don't know how long i'd look. I mean, he just
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: does stuff that is just so next level with his IQ.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, he is.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: He's a special player and uh listen, that's what that's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: what they need. Contrary to that, I think the new
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: the new young man that they got what's his name,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: the receiver. Yeah, uh, you know we always in you
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: knows this and Buck when you go you call a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: pass play and you don't you don't. You think you
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: know if it's going to be zone or man, but
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: then it's not. It's what it's something else you know
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: you think is own that is man. The receiver has
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: it to make adjustments on that too. You don't run
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: and cover yourself and you see the receivers do that
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: all the time, and it blows my mind just a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: little bit, because you know it's a man route you're
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: crossing and all of a sudden, no, it's zone. But
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: you don't go in the next zone. You stop in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: the hole. So you make adjustments that way too. And
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: I heard you coming over, Hugh that he's new. He's new,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: and they need him to start doing those types of
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: things as well, in my opinion.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: M hmm, yeah, yeah, he's reading you know, man and
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and and the quarterbacks expect him to idle down in
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: those holes, right.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: But you see that all the time, you know, you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: see it all the time in games when you're watching
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: games that receivers run into coverage, run in and make
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: it easy for the defense. And that's the one of
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: the things we stress in our offensive stuff is that, Listen,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: you got to think out there, you're not just running,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: you know, so read it that way, Mike.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: When I was in Dallas, I think Jason Garrett said
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: one of the most clear and succinct and accurate comments
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: about a receiver. Jason was talking about Michael Irvin. Was
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: on the practice field and Irvin had on a comeback. Mike,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: he the ball was a little inside. Troy had thrown
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: it a little inside, but Mike, Michael Irvin cut off
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the defender, used his body and then still kept as
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: opposed to try and catch it on his inside shoulder
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: where the defender could have a swipe at the ball.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Michael instinctively right off Troy's hand, would you know, cut
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: off the defender and then reached to the outside and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Jason just said, I'm he's the absolute best. I've never
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: seen a guy that has a quicker awareness of where
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: his body is, where the ball is, and the defender,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: and he always keeps himself between the defender and the ball.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: And we saw Jasn he he it was just a
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: quick uh omaha route, you know, the five yard out route,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: but it's a little late. And remember when jaysn over
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: on that left sideline, he like curls back. He's almost
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: turning into a curl back to the quarterback, losing ground,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and and and and it reminded me of of of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Jason's comment about Michael Irvin. The great ones have an
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: instinctive awareness to keep their body between the defender and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the ball. And he did you know it was on
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: display a number of times yesterday.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you on that. And coaches
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: coach was noding there.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: I think that the idea of of how the ball
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: skills part of it. You Hugh had brought it up
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: earlier when we were talking of like an outfield or
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: understanding angles and then you anticipate, you take the angle
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: based on where you think the ball is going to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: come down. And if if you're bad at it, then
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: you're taking a different route. The difference between that and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: what jsn's doing and some of these great receivers he
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: gets brought up is there was nobody trying to guard me,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: cover me and trying to knock me down or tackle
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: me when I was running down balls in a gap.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: And so it's pretty it's pretty crazy what the JSN
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: has been able to do, especially just two years in
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: to the league.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's when you when.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: You talk about learning things, I mean the the I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: would think you being quarterback guru, but really just an
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: offensive guy. When it comes to the idea of a
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: wide receiver that comes in as a rookie and is
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: automatically a little bit maybe above where you would typically
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: think of wide receiver as a rookie is going to be.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: How big of a security blanket is that coach for
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: for the quarterback to just know this guy's he's basically
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: another offensive coordinator out there, just like I'm supposed to be. Yeah,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: that's that's huge.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: And I think I've read and heard that Sam and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: and and Jays, they their relationship and the thing and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: how they react in meetings is really something special. And
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: that happened early. It doesn't always happen as a rookie.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: In fact that it's kind of rare. Actually, it takes
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: a little time to kind of fit in Hugh's point
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: about Jerry Rice, and that was a year before I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: got there. But he dropped it. He did drop a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: lot of balls his rookie year, and then he somehow
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: he realized why and he made the adjustment. But what
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: this young guy has done in a very short period
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: of time is really special. My hope is he stays
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: healthy and keeps going and then like the record he broke,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: there's there's five how many games we got left?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: Six?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Six games left? I mean it's gonna be. Yeah, the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: new record's going to be off the charts.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, stay healthy.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: At this point it might be it might be time
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: to start some countdown of whether or not he can
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: he can pass all of them and be I mean
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: it's uh, well it was Cooper Cup had its Calvin
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: Johnson ends up having the record right at almost twenty
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: yards nineteen hundred and sixty four.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: At this point, he's on pace.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: You gotta stay healthy and keep putting up numbers and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: throwing it, getting strikes thrown to them, so well, that
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: was a good breakdown of JSN what he brings to
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: the table. I do want to get into some of
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: the other factors of the game that we watched yesterday.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, the Seahawks end up winning that bad boy
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: wasn't as pretty as some people would have protected. But
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: at the same time, I think you have to remember
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: you're going up against another NFL team. So we'll get
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: coaching Hughes insight a little bit more about this game
• 1:06:25
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  Speaker 2: On second at four, play action, Darnold to the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Spit didn't shake, but with his second touchdown of the
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  Speaker 2: day thirteen yards at Seattle storms down the field to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: grab six out of the locker room.
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  Speaker 5: Well, thank you Fox for that highlight there. Welcome back
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: to the Monday Morning Quarterback portion. We do have coach
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: Holmgren and Hugh Millen here for a couple more segments.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: We just broke down JSN and the record breaking season
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: that he's having up to this point. You guys, that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: was amazing stuff.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: Coach.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: We I haven't gotten to just the overall. Just the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: Seahawks go on the road, go beat Tennessee. It's not
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: a good team. They only win by six. I think
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: you have most people are just happy.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: It's a w.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: It doesn't say oh W minus. It's not like an
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: A plus or an A. It's just you win or
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: you lose.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: And they won.
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  Speaker 5: And yet I'm wondering for you. You go and beat a
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  Speaker 5: team you were up by significantly more than six majority
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  Speaker 5: of the game, and yet it comes down to there's
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  Speaker 5: an on side possibility there at the end that would
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  Speaker 5: have gotten Harry, had they got that any worry, any
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  Speaker 5: concerns that you got after watching that.
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  Speaker 3: Game, No, not really. I was really they should have
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  Speaker 3: won the game. I felt that were going to win
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  Speaker 3: the game. It started that way, you know, at halftime
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  Speaker 3: it was what sixteen to three, and then it became
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  Speaker 3: twenty three to three, So they were in control of
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  Speaker 3: the game most of the time. And then but then
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  Speaker 3: give credit to Tennessee, they never quit. They had that
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  Speaker 3: punt return kind of ignited something in them, gave them
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  Speaker 3: something more to play for that made it close at
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  Speaker 3: the end. But it really wasn't that close, even though
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: the on side kick and all that, because you're playing
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  Speaker 3: in the game first of all, you're away game all
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: those things, and a wins win. So what they're thinking now,
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  Speaker 3: I think, And they had to play a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: young men. I didn't know their names really, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm learning them. But they played a bunch of different
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  Speaker 3: people in there and still came away with a w.
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  Speaker 3: So I think they're going to feel pretty good. But
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  Speaker 3: there are corrections to be made, and so there are
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  Speaker 3: lessons to be learned here. So maybe in the long
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  Speaker 3: run this type of game will help them even moving
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  Speaker 3: forward down the future.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: In the first quarter, the Seahawks played a cover one
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  Speaker 1: man to man defensively, uh four on four times, and
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  Speaker 1: and they got beat on those crossing routes and and
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, notably on a third and three where
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  Speaker 1: Leonard Williams was the four tech Bucky that's just head
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  Speaker 1: up over the tackle and Leonard Williams goes into the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: b gap that's on cam Ward's right side, he's a
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  Speaker 1: right handed quarterback. It's very easy for him to just
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: fuel that he can break the pocket. And then you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: got man to man, the shallow cross Mike comes from
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  Speaker 1: the opposite direction and next thing you know, you get
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  Speaker 1: the Titans have exactly a twenty five yard gain on that.
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  Speaker 1: And and there was other crossing routes that they had
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  Speaker 1: they had and then McDonald the just you know, the
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  Speaker 1: second quarter there was zero cover and derivatives of cover
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  Speaker 1: one and for the second they only had three. So
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  Speaker 1: again four in the first quarter, only three for the
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  Speaker 1: remainder of the game in the second half. As you
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  Speaker 1: saw that, what were you thinking, either from an offensive
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: perspective or if you're the head coach and your defensive
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  Speaker 1: keeps calling these man and man's, we're getting burned on
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  Speaker 1: the crossing routes. Just take us into your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: the x's and no'se on that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I told you when I had my
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  Speaker 3: defensive coordinators, I didn't mess with them too much during
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: the ball game. But if I would, I would recognize
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: what you said in that first quarter and the drives
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  Speaker 3: and then so the one thing I would say is
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  Speaker 3: a hey, it's not the man for man, stuff isn't working,
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  Speaker 3: you know, go to something else. I wouldn't tell them
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  Speaker 3: exactly what coverage is and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, let's get away from that because that's
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: hurting us just a little bit. And I think they
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: had this, they had different people playing. He likes to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: do different things, Mike McDonald. There's really a lot of
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  Speaker 3: activity I think with their defense, so sometimes just to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: play zone. But they react well in my opinion, to
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  Speaker 3: the balls being thrown and different things. So that's what
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  Speaker 3: I would change, and that's obviously what he would change,
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  Speaker 3: and he changed.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if the defensive coordinator just said I
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: should do this and or Mike said do this. Mike
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  Speaker 3: calls the defenses, so you know, I imagine he had
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  Speaker 3: a big part of that. But I think it had
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  Speaker 3: to do with the different people that were playing during
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there was I think defensively, Yeah, there
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  Speaker 5: was multiple guys that were out and some big ones.
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  Speaker 5: Hugh had already kind of mentioned Ernest Jones, which obviously
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: the quarterback of the defense.
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  Speaker 6: That's a big one. You could get away with.
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  Speaker 5: It against the Tennessee Titans, and you did, and so
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  Speaker 5: hopefully he'll be back before too long. I want to
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  Speaker 5: touch on, you know, as much as we can in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: this segment the run game aspect of things. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: ken Walker ends up with eleven carries for seventy one yards.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that's a six and a half yard per clip.
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  Speaker 5: I'm pretty good. I think a lot of people be like,
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  Speaker 5: there was that one possession. It was towards the end
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  Speaker 5: of the third quarter where they hand him the ball.
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  Speaker 5: He runs for nineteen yards, then he runs for eleven yards,
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  Speaker 5: then he catches one for like twenty nine yards, and
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  Speaker 5: then they bring Zach Charbaday in to basically get the touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: But that made it thirty to ten. I think thirty
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  Speaker 5: to ten, and it was it was kind of one
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  Speaker 5: of those like can you do that more? Was there
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  Speaker 5: more of that?
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  Speaker 6: Was that just.
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  Speaker 5: A good play call? Or was that we're just going
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  Speaker 5: to lean on him right here? Did you like the
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  Speaker 5: way that they use the running game or was that
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  Speaker 5: something you still wish they'd use some more of. I
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  Speaker 5: would like to see them use some more of that.
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  Speaker 5: You said it yourself. Eleven carries for most teams if
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: you have the number one back or you're starting back,
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  Speaker 5: you're going to hand him the ball more than eleven
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  Speaker 5: times mostly unless it's not working, then you might bring
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  Speaker 5: in the change of pace, you give him a blow,
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  Speaker 5: or go to more passes or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But he was, he was good yesterday. He and they
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: blocked for him. Part of that I think was Tennessee,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, and I mentioned this earlier. They're contained and
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: their their angles on the outside by linebackers and secondary people.
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  Speaker 3: I thought was really weak. So do it more, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: run more. And uh, I don't. I can't answer Bucky
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  Speaker 3: why exactly they're playing him the way they're playing him.
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  Speaker 3: If I have a chance to sit down with Mike,
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  Speaker 3: I would ask him exactly that question, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: just he gets to decide. And uh, Charbonnay's good player. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: And he looked good. He looked good when he got
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: in there. He piled it in their different style. But
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  Speaker 3: I would like to see Walker touch the ball more.
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  Speaker 3: I think that they'll our offense will be maximized at
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: that point.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Mike, I was uh really pleased to have
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: been or appreciative is the better word. Appreciative to have
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: been challenged by Bucky on Friday about pass blocking between
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Zach Charbonnat and K nine. And my my initial response was,
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  Speaker 1: I don't see an appreciable difference between, you know, having
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  Speaker 1: studied the tape a lot, hadn't grinded on the details
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  Speaker 1: of that. So after the show, you know, in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: before I went on with Softie later, I had some time,
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  Speaker 1: and so I looked at all thirty five of Charbonnet's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: pass blocking and all eighteen of Kenneth Walker's. And obviously
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  Speaker 1: you're going to tell us that that's an important thing
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  Speaker 1: to be able, you know, for running back to pass block.
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  Speaker 1: But I basically put him in five grades. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you had a satisfactory you know, you did your
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  Speaker 1: job like an NFL player, you know, that was that
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  Speaker 1: was nothing. You got a plus if you did something
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  Speaker 1: you did your job but it was difficult to do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a physical step up. Okay, he did
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  Speaker 1: a good job on that linebacker. A double plus would
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: be if he did something just like above and beyond right,
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  Speaker 1: and then a minus if he didn't do his job,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: and a double minus. And and in the end when
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  Speaker 1: when I added it up, there were uh, there was three.
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  Speaker 1: It was a three minus four h for Kenneth Walker.
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  Speaker 1: It was a six minus for Sharbonay, but Sharbonay had
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: double the play, so they end up exactly the same rate.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know, I just don't know whether or
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  Speaker 1: not I can support the idea of my conclusion I'll say.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say is there is no appreciable difference. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I thought before I went into the exercise, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what I thought coming out of.
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  Speaker 6: It makes sense.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna trust your guys's eyeballs far more well. Actually,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't even have my opinion. I was just thinking,
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  Speaker 5: maybe that's the reason.
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  Speaker 1: And sure enough, you're good to bring it up, Yah're
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: absolutely good to bring it up.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yesterday when they get into their two minute offense
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: after they had gotten that ball on like turnover on
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: downs and then they get the ball it was Zach
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: Shecherbonney in the game during the two minute offense.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: Again, so there's something there.
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  Speaker 1: Even though typical, right, Mike, isn't that typical that you know,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: your workhorse guy, maybe he might not be your two
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: minute guy. You know, I've seen that a lot. What
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  Speaker 1: what's your philosophy on that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, your two minute guy, you might have a different
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: group in there as your two minute offense. I was
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: thinking when your discussion with Buck the I was saying
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: to Max Strong and Shawn Alexander, Right, okay, if Sean
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Mack was going to be the pass blocker, Sean, I've
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: told you this before, a great, great runner, very very
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: average to below on pass blocking, and so you got
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: to it up that way. You know, you can't ask
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: somebody to do something you're pretty sure he can't do,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: and so there's substitution. It just bes somebody. I'm gonna
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: ask that question if I have a chance, and then
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: I'll be more intelligent when I come to the next
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: radio stay and the next time we're on the radio
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  Speaker 3: to see why why are they doing it? Why? Why
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  Speaker 3: are they doing it the.
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  Speaker 6: Way they're doing it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, when you ask, then we just won't see it
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: like that anymore. They'll just be giving him the ball.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, they're they're running back. Had eleven carriers, just
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: like our guy did. He averaged one point eight yard.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: There's no average six point five. So it feels like
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: there could be something that if this thing's clicking on
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: all synders, you're getting more out of ken Walker. But
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: we shall see, all right, we gotta we gotta break here.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: On the other side, we're gonna have one more, one
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