Latest / Paradox Podcast / Seasons Part 3: Seasons, Signs, and Spiritual Listening
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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:15Welcome. Welcome to the Paradox
- 0:19podcast where there are more than a pair
- 0:23of dogs. In fact, this podcast features
- 0:27three different doctors. Dr. Deborah Brazile,
- 0:30Dr. Vince Johnson Jr. And me,
- 0:34Dr. Deborah Woodson. In this journey,
- 0:38we will examine spiritual concepts that appear to
- 0:43be self contradictory, but actually they
- 0:47uncover deeper underlying truths.
- 0:51This means that many topics are on the table.
- 0:56So buckle your seat belts, put your tray table and
- 1:00your seats in the upright position because this ride
- 1:04can get a little bumpy as it may challenge
- 1:07your current intuitions. For the
- 1:11more you know, the more you realize your knowledge is limited.
- 1:15There is a whole world of knowledge waiting
- 1:19for you to discover.
- 1:35Foreign.
- 1:43Part and final part of seasons. You need to
- 1:48listen because God will tell you when a season is
- 1:52over or when one begins.
- 1:56We have mountains here and you can actually see the moon.
- 2:00That's right, you get a little. In Tennessee, you're not
- 2:04seeing anything. That's true. There's nothing you can see. So anyway,
- 2:08yeah, they told us to go out and,
- 2:12and, and, and they wanted us to find a tree.
- 2:19Now back then, I didn't, I didn't understand the, the spiritual
- 2:23relevance nor the scientific relevance of actually going out and hugging the
- 2:27tree. But, you know, it was God, hug a tree. Okay, I'll go out of.
- 2:31I don't know what that's gonna do for me.
- 2:35Give you splinters. Let me tell you something.
- 2:41I just want to make sure there wasn't any snakes around, all right? Oh,
- 2:45yeah, you know, yeah, right.
- 2:48And so, so I went out and I found this big tree
- 2:54and I went up to this tree and I said, okay, I'm gonna just hug
- 2:57this tree. So I went to hug the tree.
- 3:03And ministry and Let me, let me, let me, let me tell you something.
- 3:06When you're ready, the spirit of God will
- 3:11hit you so
- 3:15gently and so hard. The Holy Spirit,
- 3:19that seraphim, that holy Spirit will,
- 3:23it'll touch you and, and overtake you in,
- 3:27in the most sensitive and masculine
- 3:31way. And it did.
- 3:35And I had this conversation with this tree.
- 3:39And so here I am in middle floors in the middle of the night,
- 3:42she's talking, I start crying.
- 3:47I love you, Tre, you know, and this tree said
- 3:50to me, said,
- 3:54my roots are deep and
- 3:59my branches are tall and wide.
- 4:04I do not need your permission to grow.
- 4:09I grow, period.
- 4:14And I thought, oh, wow.
- 4:19At that particular time, I was in a situation in a relationship and
- 4:25we talk about seasons. God will tell you when the season is over. You just
- 4:28gotta listen sometimes that season is your mama.
- 4:33Right? Right. Yeah. What was that one song Mama used
- 4:37to say, yeah, take your time, young man. Right. So my
- 4:41mama told me that that girl wasn't right. That mama told you that the girl
- 4:45wasn't right. She told me she wasn't right.
- 4:48I, I, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't want to listen, so I said,
- 4:52okay, all right. And, but that conversation
- 4:56with the tree also told me that too.
- 4:59Tree said, I'm a tree. I don't need your permission to grow.
- 5:03Well, I was asking for permission in this relationship to grow,
- 5:07and I wasn't granted the permission to grow. So I didn't grow.
- 5:10Grow. Right. So there was two seasons. This is something
- 5:14interesting. There was two, this is come back to oxymoron again. There was two things
- 5:18happening at one time, right. I had two seasons
- 5:22going on at one time. Now, if you know something about seasons, which I know
- 5:25both of y' all do, generally when you're going through a season, you, you learn
- 5:29more than one lesson. Oh, yeah, really get a little spanking upside your
- 5:33head. Right, right. Hard head. Make a soft, you know what?
- 5:37Right. We talked about that our last show. So. Yeah,
- 5:42that's right. I went through my rites
- 5:46of passage and I, and I went through that and I said, all right,
- 5:49I got that lesson. And then I
- 5:53still didn't listen. I got the message,
- 5:57man, I still didn't listen. I sent you the memo,
- 6:02but I didn't listen. Okay.
- 6:05So then I had to go ahead and lose my life later on. Didn't figure
- 6:09out, oh, I had a near death experience and I came back and I said,
- 6:12oh, I got it. Okay,
- 6:15all right, all right, all right, got it. And then it took three more years
- 6:20after that. It took me three more years to figure
- 6:25out, you know, what is
- 6:30this season telling me? Right,
- 6:34Right. Because there's always a harvest. That's right.
- 6:37That's right. Right. And so when you, when you have
- 6:41a harvest, what you plant will grow. That's right. Right.
- 6:46And this is, this is part of what we'll talk about in our our next
- 6:49show, thoughts Manifesting reality. So what you plant
- 6:54will grow. So, so there's a Native American saying that says, you know,
- 6:57whichever wolf that you decide to feed is the one that,
- 7:00that will grow strong. So if you feed the negativity, it's going
- 7:04to grow strong. If you feed that positivity and love and joy and
- 7:07love and peace and kindness and gentleness and happiness and joy and
- 7:12faith, strength, then that's what's going to grow. If you're hating and
- 7:16you're hating on Yourself, and you're hating on other people, and you got hate in
- 7:19your heart, and you hate this man and you hate that man.
- 7:22You hate the President, the President's mama and the President's dog.
- 7:25Okay. You know there's gonna be some problems,
- 7:29right? Right? Yeah, yeah. These things are going
- 7:33to manifest. They're going to manifest in your life. That's right.
- 7:37Okay, so we'll talk about that in our next show. But when
- 7:41it comes to seasons, we must listen. That's right.
- 7:44And, Deborah, let me ask you, because we've talked about this many,
- 7:48many times. Deborah. And Deborah, I want to ask you guys this question. How do
- 7:52we know what to listen for?
- 7:55How do you know what to listen for in those seasons?
- 7:59Well. Oh, boy. You go ahead,
- 8:03Deborah. People have said to me, well, how does the Holy Spirit.
- 8:07What does the Holy Spirit sound like? And I said,
- 8:12yeah. And someone asked me, does he audibly
- 8:16talk to you? And I said, yeah, what does it sound like? I said,
- 8:19it's my voice, but it's not my idea.
- 8:23Matter of fact, it might even piss me off when
- 8:27I'm told to do certain things. You know, it is my voice,
- 8:31but it is completely in the opposite
- 8:35direction that I was going, thinking, or would
- 8:39go. And it's hard to listen, especially because
- 8:44I'm a hyper person. I know Deborah is, too. It's. It's hard to
- 8:48be still. Even in my stillness. I go hiking
- 8:53and listen and listen. Yeah, exactly. It's. It's.
- 8:57I. You know, I. God would tell
- 9:00me the Holy Spirit would say, go here. And I go, why? And that'd be
- 9:04three years. I'm in that why for three years.
- 9:08I mean, if. If. If I could have my
- 9:13mind now when I was 21, oh, my goodness,
- 9:18I'd be so much better off if I were to just listen.
- 9:22And a lot of times I. God would get silent on
- 9:26me. Not as bad as he did between the Old and New Testament, you know,
- 9:30And Ezekiel was telling them, okay, you better straighten up, okay?
- 9:33And then he was silent. He was silent. And it's a hard.
- 9:37It's a hard position to be when you praying
- 9:42and there's nothing coming back.
- 9:46You guys know what I mean? There's just you just praying the same
- 9:50thing over and over and over again. But I have
- 9:54learned that he is very near, and he's waiting for
- 9:58me to do what he told me to do initially.
- 10:02And he's not going to say. He doesn't argue with me.
- 10:05He doesn't argue with me and keeps on repeating
- 10:09like, I do to my husband and my kids. But he just says it one
- 10:13time. And if I asked him,
- 10:17if I pray and say, could you give me the Cliff Notes,
- 10:21God, could you remind
- 10:26me? And he will remind me. And a lot of times it comes through something
- 10:31I see in nature or something someone says to me or something
- 10:35I hear on television. Just this thing that I hear.
- 10:39But he will remind you. So what
- 10:43I try to do is to remember to ask him, okay, I'm being stubborn.
- 10:47I forgot what you told me. Could you tell me again?
- 10:50And he will tell you again, because the Bible says,
- 10:54I will guide your steps. I will guide your step.
- 10:57Step here step, step, here, step.
- 11:01But most of us are like, why? And that's four years, five years later,
- 11:05you know? So I've learned to ask him, could you.
- 11:09Could you remind me what you told me? Because in my.
- 11:11He knows. He knows my mind. He knows. I.
- 11:15He. The boy done forgot. So I will send. I will send a
- 11:19reminder. And it's a reminder to her. And it is usually
- 11:24not from the Holy Spirit. It's usually from outside.
- 11:27I'm told something, and I'm like, oh, yeah, now I remember what
- 11:32he told me. I have a girlfriend and I. We always say,
- 11:36so when we get old, could you help me complete
- 11:40my sentences? Because we forgot.
- 11:43Matter of fact, I dance with. I bring some older women in
- 11:47class today because I'm the hugger and the greeter.
- 11:50And today a woman came. She stood.
- 11:54She said, you've already hugged me. I said, you just walked in. I haven't hugged
- 11:58you. She goes, oh, I forgot. And we start laughing because she.
- 12:02Because she goes, well, the other day, you hugged me twice. Because you forgot.
- 12:05You hugged me. I said, yes. So you
- 12:09tend to. Your memory tends to slip a little bit. And. And God,
- 12:14he understands that. He understands that. So it will come back to you.
- 12:17So what I do, Vince, is I say the prayer. Like,
- 12:21could you. You're not saying anything, so it must have been something you told
- 12:25me to do, and I haven't done it, you know, like, recently told
- 12:29me, I want you to write another book. And I'm like, I don't want to
- 12:32write another book. That means I have to be still,
- 12:36you know? And he got silent.
- 12:42Yeah. So. Yeah, I know. He told me that. He told me that. But I
- 12:46don't want to do that. But we'll see how disobedient I'm going to be.
- 12:50I can't promise you anything,
- 12:54Deborah. You got the same.
- 12:59Well, I mean, I'll say this one time,
- 13:04I prayed over A relationship. And I said, you know, God, if you can just
- 13:07let me know by the end of the year or so if this relationship is
- 13:11right, I'm. I should stick with it or not.
- 13:14And it was maybe October,
- 13:19and, you know, but I came to God honestly.
- 13:23And later that same day, I'm not
- 13:27going to say what I found or what happened exactly,
- 13:32but it made it apparent to me it was
- 13:36done. So I prayed it in the morning,
- 13:40two or three hours later. And you know what? I wasn't really ready
- 13:44to hear it. That's why I was saying, well,
- 13:48yeah, you tell me how to end of year, maybe New Year's, you know,
- 13:52and. But it was just. It was unmistakable.
- 13:55Right. Deborah knows what I'm talking about, but I just can't say
- 13:59it on air because it would incriminate someone.
- 14:01Yes, but yeah. Yes, it really would.
- 14:08So sometimes, you know,
- 14:11when your heart is there and you really want to know something and you ask,
- 14:14you will get an answer. And sometimes you get it really fast,
- 14:18like scary fast.
- 14:21And I. Right. The way that I get into,
- 14:26you know, the Holy Spirit mode is I have this song that I love called
- 14:30Hearing your presence. And Deborah, I know you studied Revelation.
- 14:33I bet Vince, you have, too. And it's
- 14:37the, you know, the image of Christ on the throne and the emerald
- 14:42colored kind of rainbow
- 14:47encircling the throne and the prophets and dressed in white
- 14:51and crowns of gold on their heads, et cetera. Whenever I read that,
- 14:55and I'm. And the lyrics will be printed on the screen,
- 14:58boom, I'm in it. I'm in it like Jesus is
- 15:02right there. And. And I've just had remarkable
- 15:07experiences. I remember one time someone had passed and I saw Jesus
- 15:11just laughing at death.
- 15:14And you know how. And the person
- 15:18was happy and young again and, you know, those kinds of things.
- 15:22But if I want to connect, I have
- 15:25to do it through music. But that means I have to sit still and listen
- 15:29to it. I can't. I cannot go on a hike and
- 15:34really get that one on one because I feel like I'm just kind of
- 15:38like, you know, help me, you know, and I'm not really
- 15:42sitting and listening. And so I found that I literally have to be still.
- 15:47So all of my hiking and exercising and all that is not conducive to
- 15:51me hearing anything. It's conducive to me downloading
- 15:56on God, you know, but I.
- 16:00It's not opening my ears to hear it, so I have to get really quiet.
- 16:05Interesting. Yeah, that's good. Interesting, you know. You know,
- 16:09I That's interesting that you say that because when I was,
- 16:13when I was, when I was younger,
- 16:16I would get quiet and God would speak to me immediately.
- 16:22I, in one time in particular, I can remember, I was looking
- 16:26out a window and the sun was shining and I asked God a very,
- 16:29very important question. And I said, I'm just
- 16:33sitting here and wait till you answer me, Lord. And I mean, probably within about
- 16:3630 seconds. Right. He told me what
- 16:40to do. Now my mind said,
- 16:43okay, but my heart said, no, I ain't going to do it.
- 16:47Within that 30 seconds, I know the sun was shining and
- 16:51do you know, with the clouds rolled over and a big
- 16:55thunderstorm came. Wow.
- 16:59And when I, I didn't, I didn't do any. I didn't do what he told
- 17:03me to do. And I paid a very, very dear price for that. Yeah,
- 17:06right. That was when I was young, I would, I, I, I would
- 17:10get quiet. Now I'm older now, so, you know, I spend a lot of time
- 17:14being quiet and in quiet. But that doesn't mean it's quiet in the brain.
- 17:18But. Yeah, but it is good, you know, but, but then,
- 17:21you know, it, it, it. There's that oxymoron again too. Because just because it's quiet
- 17:25don't mean it's quiet. That's right. Right. Agree. So now God knows.
- 17:29He knows to catch me in the flow when
- 17:33I'm in the flow. Because I, when I get quiet, I think I can hear
- 17:37him and I'm here. And Shambala. Oh, yeah. I'm. I mean, I'm. We there.
- 17:41We, Me and God, me and you. We like this, we homies. Right? Yeah.
- 17:45Yeah. And I don't mean to minimize the creator that
- 17:49way, but when I'm in flow
- 17:52is when he stops me. Yeah. Because he knows that is when I'm
- 17:57going to hear him. So I'll be doing a song musician.
- 18:02And this happens to me. I'll jump into a song
- 18:06and immediately. And this happens to me quite frequently.
- 18:09Even when I'm on stage and doing solos, I will get completely overwhelmed.
- 18:14Yeah, right. Yeah. And synesthesia, the synesthesia
- 18:18is that moment where music is, is so overwhelming and the art is so overwhelming
- 18:22to you. And the beauty of it is so overwhelming to that it shakes you
- 18:25to your very core. And I can't do anything. And I've done this on stage.
- 18:28I can't do anything but just put my hands up. Wow.
- 18:31Okay. That's amazing. Looked at me like,
- 18:35is, Is that it? Like I, I was, I came back.
- 18:40That's it. So that is when God speaks to me and
- 18:43he gives me the answer. And it's very poignant. There's no.
- 18:47Well, a little gray line. No, this is a little bit. Could it be.
- 18:50This could be. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Vincent, stop.
- 18:55Turn left. I'm driving down the street one
- 18:59day. I'm like, lord, why you have me Go down the street. He said,
- 19:02turn left. I said. I said, okay. I said, lord, why you have me.
- 19:05Stop. And okay. What in the white. And I looked to my left and I
- 19:08said, this is what I've been looking for for 10 years. And I
- 19:12went into this place and it started a whole new career for me. Wow.
- 19:16Yes. So that speaks to us different ways. He speaks
- 19:20to us in different ways. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. So.
- 19:24And that. And. And that. That kind of teases into our next show.
- 19:28Thoughts and manifestation in reality. Right. Do you know
- 19:33that a thought is a prayer?
- 19:38That's heavy. Right? Wow.
- 19:43Pray without ceasing. Pay without ceasing. There we are.
- 19:49Right, so your thought is your prayer.
- 19:53Right. Cherokee Native Americans would say, well, that's the
- 19:57wolf that you feed. You got to feed the white wolf or you're going to
- 20:00feed the black wolf. That's right. No, no pun intended,
- 20:04but you got.
- 20:09Yeah, right. Which one are
- 20:13you gonna. Gotta make some choices. So in our next show
- 20:17that's gonna be very exciting because we want to talk about thought manifesting
- 20:21reality. We've all got some amazing stories, right. And things to share
- 20:25about that. Right? Yeah, yeah. Well, before we
- 20:29leave and you know, people are like, whoa, I don't believe that. Well, your belief
- 20:33is not a prereq to the truth. Okay.
- 20:37And a prereq is a prerequisite, and you have
- 20:41to take that class before you take the next class.
- 20:44So it's not a prereq to the truth. Have you ever.
- 20:48Have you ever thought about somebody and they call you.
- 20:53And then some of you shaking your head, yes, sure. Oh, yeah.
- 20:56And those people shaking their head, no, you're lying. You're lying to
- 21:00yourself. You thought about somebody and you haven't seen them in
- 21:04a year and you kind of, kind of bump into
- 21:08them like on the street, in the grocery store.
- 21:12Grocery store. Yeah. Your thoughts totally happen.
- 21:17Your thoughts will manifest your reality.
- 21:21Tune in next time where you can be a fly on the wall.
- 21:25Peace out. All right,
- 21:28bye, everybody.
- 21:34Hopefully the preceding conversations inspired you to
- 21:38think deeper about your current beliefs. Tune in next time as we'll continue
- 21:42our journey through your self contradictory thoughts. God bless
- 21:46everybody.